Attempting 15x Deeper Cut Than They Said Was Possible
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- We attempted the deepest grind we have ever tried on the Blohm Profimat XT from United Grinding
Using Markforged's 3D printing technology to create a coolant nozzle that is withholding 80 gallons per minute.
For more information on the Markforged:
titansofcnc.com/
INTRO: 00:00
TYROLIT WHEEL: 00:13
WHATS IN THE RED BOX: 00:50
CONTINUOUS WHEEL DRESSER 01:07
WHEEL SCRUBBER: 01:28
MAIN COOLANT AND OUR PROBLEM: 02:12
DESIGNING A NEW COOLANT VALVE: 03:09
TESTING PROTOTYPE: 04:37
RESTRUCTURING THE NEW COOLANT VALVE: 05:03
INSTALLING AND TESTING NEW VALVE: 05:48
A MONSTER 1.5” GRIND: 06:28
OUTRO: 07:43
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How much of the wheel was consumed in this cut? (Change of diameter from start to finish)
With a wheel that soft I can imagine it shrunk about an inch. I think the pass they showed without coolant might have consumed the bulk of that wheel.
@@vintageludwigthey weren’t actually grinding on the dry pass.
@@vintageludwigyou can see by the nozzle position before and after there was a tremendous amount of wheel wear.
When the depth of cut is deeper than Barry's appreciation for Grinding.
Do you smell that? It’s not my coffee. It’s not the ground material.. Oh wait, it’s just Russell’s sweet burn! 🔥😎
@@Sara-TOC someone smelled what the Russell is cooking 😎
No way any firm would let Barry use their machines!
@@andrewb2475 lol On a serious note, Barry is a great machinist with a wealth of knowledge to share. Yes, we poke fun of him at times, but don’t be fooled-he knows his stuff. 🙂
About time you took off more than .0002" off a part, Chris! Great video
It blows my mind that you are able to do something like this on a grinding machine. Crazy how far the technology has come.
you can but now wise. just use an endmill to cut to depth and leave however much you want for grinding.
Love thee jobs where setup/fixturing is 90% of the total engineering. Really brings out the skills of everyone involved.
And i thought that grinding is only about finishing. This is amazing. Nice video guys
Cool video!
Kind of wanted to see how that PLA print held up
That is the cleanest I've ever seen a grinder
Always taking it up a notch, awesome video everyone! Chris way to get after it man!
Insane grind. Trevor, great tip on using the print orientation to help keep the part as strong as possible 👏
Cool video, guys! I love the innovation, teamwork, and in-depth explanation of the machinery and manufacturing processes.
You're worried about the strength of the 3d print but you don't even print it solid
they did though
Infill has little impact on overall strength of prints it’s more just a frame for the walls and top surface to build off of
Excellent video! It’s incredible what you can do with these machines.
Loving the grinding videos guys
I love creep grinding had tooling manufactured using this method in the 80s the process was old then. But now it’s great to see how for the technology has moved 😊
I'm surprised you didn't just print the nozzle in stainless steel but it wouldn't have made for a good advertisement for markforged 3D printers.
Those are CHIPS?? haha Great video Chris, Trevor and Nate!
That’s DEEP 😂 good video everyone!!!
That’s insane!
How long did the process take? How much did the disc diameter decrease during continuous dressing? Depth is not everything. What matters is the profitability of the process.
Парни показали что так можно делать. Рентабельности тут нет.
Обычная ковка металла тут лучше подойдёт.
Pretty sure it was just a test to see if it could be done.
I’m sure it’s not the most profitable scenario, but I could be wrong
So as the grind wheel wears down. does the machine compensate for this by lowering the Z axis and the diamond dresser the same amount? Awesome!
We used to Creep Feed grind turbine blades at Rolls-Royce in England in the late 70’s.
If you listen closely, you can hear the pucker. Lol AWESOME job, Chris!
I've seen videos in the past of UA-camrs who CNC creating an "Air Knife" for their cameras to prevent coolant from hitting the lens and let them get clear shots of their processes.
Don't know if you guys have heard about those but might be a cool 3D printing project and allow for more flexibility in your B-Roll.
That's impressive!
These grinding guys are a diffrent breed
great job, the right tools is the secret to succes
Currently running a manual 14x72” chuck Mattison surface grinder. NEVER IN MY DREAMS lol
That's crazy!
Guys that is freaking awesome I ran a kellenberger kel varia twin head for many years never did we make a cut like that I believe our max was .010 plus do a finish dress before grinding to size this was truly awesome so cool I love the continues dress that's handy you guys are rock stars boom
How do you compensate for the wheel shrinking?
Based on the tool paths shown, I feel like the inlaid carbon fiber didn't actually contribute that much, as the un-reinforced layers could still separate as they would in the PLA printed one. I have a feeling the print orientation was the real difference between the nozzle here and the failed one. I would be interested in seeing the same nozzle printed with just the polymer and see if it would hold up.
I've worked in the additive field with too many engineers and operators that overlook the inherent advantages and disadvantages of the process they are trying to utilize and make decisions based on those factors. Print orientation being the biggest factor when I'm called in to diagnose why a part is failing in an application when the material properties exceed that of the needs of the application. Just because the part imported into the slicer one way doesn't mean that's the best orientation to print it.
Not sure why this showed up in my algorithm but I’m glad it did
I have used a manual surface grinder with a creep feed facility. It was never a pleasant operation to carry out. Much preferred multiple passes of a few thou each time!
Do you guys have any issues with where the bowden tube turnes down into the hotend ony your mark 2?
We have a couple at work but have to keep the lids propped up a bit
Do you know how much of the wheel was consumed in that one cut?
Can you guys please make a video on how to chamfer a very small hole on rubber with VMC?
1 question, what's the point or application of this?
German hobby 3D print enthusiast: I made my PLA printed air tank hold 115 psi gas. Titans: carbon fiberrrrrrr
Here's one for you to try. Bolt a 8 inch cup grinding wheel to a milling arbor, put it in a vertical milling machine and mill through a chunk of steel as if you were face milling with no coolant at milling speeds and feeds.
is there a real application for this kind of grinding?
Yes Creep feed grinding has many uses
SLA works well for these nozzles too acrually, had coolant at about 50bar through one and held up just fine for a week of continuous production
How much of the grinding wheel did you lose for that cut? Cost wise, would it be worth it or is this just for demo purposes?
obviously this is just a demo showing the possibilities of buying top-end machines, and whether it's worth it depends on what you're charging the client...
Cool that you CAN do it.
*But in what realistic scenario would this be used?* instead of just having a mill remove like 99% of the material & THEN make the final polish on it with a wheel like that?
Doing something like a hair clipper blades or saw teeth you cant rough that out. Creep Feed is the way to go
Stayed for the swarf.
How deep of a cut can it take in 62 HRC D2?
Can’t they do through spindle coolant for grinders?
An inch and half depth of cut is not that much, until you see how wide the wheel is! It is all about that surface area contact. I would love to see how much power the motor was drawing when it was cutting that!
Boom
Lets talk about the wheel we are using..
ABUSING !!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍
Bad@ss Grinding 😊
Why would you want/use such a soft wheel. Any advantages?
What was the feed rate?
Not sure how I wound up on an undisclosed ad for markforge or why someone would hog out all that material with a grinder
The sides of the wheel are cutting aswell but are neither dressed, nor cooled or cleaned? If the wheel is so soft that it breaks under your fingers, wouldm't the cleaning nozzle destroy the dressed profile? Wouldn't it be advantageous to have that nozzle do it's work before the dresser?
How much pressure are you guys even using?
so like, thats cool; but why wouldnt you use a cnc machine for a cut like this?
This is a CNC Machine
@@christophervillalpando5865 I mean with a "traditional" endmill toolhead. whats the advantage about this to justify burning an entire abrasive wheel?
How long it run?
At 1 Ipm going over 4 inches total of 4 min
Cool Video but you didnt mention carbon fiber reinforcement enough
Why not to use a mill and then finish off with the grinder?
😯
if pimp my ride got into CNC
Im sorrry…But is his top lip glued to his teeth?😂
lol kinda weird you're looking at my lips
@@christophervillalpando5865 kinda more weird that you’re impersonating someone, especially him lol
@@christophervillalpando5865 all jokes lol just tryna make someone laugh i have bad humor lmfao have a blessed day
Well... Why would you need any mill... Just make 5 axis Heller grinder and just blast it all out :D Amazing
I guess they were wrong. Who are they? Tyrolit? United Grinding?
I've run 36" dia. grinders, They remove a lot more.
take a shot every time they say fiber or carbon fiber :D
I can't help pitying these poor guys desperately struggling to produce excellent results using such primitive machines. My thoughts are with them...
They didn't say what the material, hardness, tolerance, and finish requirements were. Most machinist would mill, heat treat, then grind IF required.
Simon Taneously
if you dry that sludge, you can literally say that is fairy dust.
Hmmmmm... how could we possibly make our coolant nozel the same shape as the wheel?
You're referring to the wheel that's only job is to grind everything it touches to the exact same shape as itself?
Yes. Why do you ask?
Wait...all that time spent building the coolant wedgie, only to run it WITHOUT COOLANT?
8:30
Imagine paying this much for a machine just for it to not have different nozzle heads that match the profile of the grinding wheel. We’ll time to 3d print a janky part for my ultra expensive machine
Очень интересно но ничего не понял так как я no English😢
Definitely not your Grandpa's grinding machine!
Some men shouldn't grow a beard...
Not to be that guy but carbon fiber doesn't fix everything
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Anyone that 3d print know how tought a PLA piece can be, This advertisement was a bit forced and boring
I skipped and disliked this video, after "continues CF..." were repited for the fifths time.