This door has been opened for the haters of j250 and guess what, comment section did not disappoint. I already like it and having fun. Won’t let sad people ruin it. 😅😂
Haters? LOL I bet you line up over night to get the newest Apple phone that is almost exactly the same as the last. There's a sucker born every minute. 😂😂😂
Ok time for a few facts! 1. AdBlue is contained in a separate tank to the diesel 2. Ad Blue is on the Everest as well so there's that 3. Never buy the first generation of a completely new model - wait until the bugs have been ironed out.
Ad blue and diesel definitely don't mix. If they ever are mixed you need the full fuel system ,tank to injector, removed and replaced - cleaned,the is no inbetween solution.
The ad blue is in a separate tank so only a blind person would put ad blue in the diesel tank. Ad blue is not new as it has been in many vehicles for a long time and is not a problem, just top it up like you do the diesel tank
Had a 120, put an order in for a 250, waited, waited and waited more. Bought a 2020 Patrol Y62 in the meantime with the plan on selling it when the 250 was released. Finally test drove the 250 Altitude last week and the following day put in an order for a brand new Y62 Ti. The 250 looks great, but that’s where it ends sadly because I have been a Toyota fan boy for a long time, but just can’t overlook its shortcomings. I think it really now qualifies for a school pick up family car.
@@NorthOz If you can afford to drive a V8, it’s one of your best options in my opinion. I’m probably spending an extra $500-$1,000 on fuel every year, but I get many benefits and don’t care one bit. Owning a car you enjoy driving isn’t just about fuel usage. Powerful V8 engine, a stack of room, reliability and an updated head unit makes this car quite desirable actually. And whilst many complain about the lack of tech, I prefer this to a million bells and whistles going off every few seconds. Don’t forget to do a wood grain delete if that’s not your thing. They told me I should test a Y62 and then choose a color. They were right. Haha. Each to their own I guess. Certainly good value.
Great honest review and I love the look of the 250.. but I’ll stick with my V6 petrol 120 series 😊👌🏼 Yes it’s older but has plenty of room/storage and huge 180lt fuel capacity 👌🏼
Nice video mate! Thanks for showing ours :) Also some good points from your viewers. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 6 months with them and the mods being developed for them.
Thanks Matt and Holly! Loving the Prado videos and looking forward to seeing your continued thoughts on your ownership. I’ll chuck in a clip or two of your off-road test in an upcoming video 😉 Love your work and keen to see what you have coming up
@@NorthOz Yeah you can definitely throw it in but I didn't realise the centre diff didn't automatically lock so it was a pretty big stuff up on my part. We will have a trip where we will be towing a small van soon with it so we are keen to see how it goes!
@@OverlandTravellershaha I saw that! It’s all good. I stuff up all the time. I forgot to lock my hubs on my 79 the last time I went out on the tracks. I like that you mentioned you stuffed up though. Shows honesty. Keen to see your next vids and love the basic build of the 60 as well
Love all these comments. Been buying and using Land Cruisers (60, 80, 100, and 200) since 1987. Heard the same thing when the FJ60 was replaced by the 80. Then the 80 replaced by the 100. Then the 100 replaced by the 200. I'm sure this, along with the 300, will become a tried and true, loved vehicle in the next couple of years. Especially after the keyboard warriors that don't actually use the vehicle for what it was designed for have moved on. I do wish, however, there is a way to remove all the warning noises. I hate those.
Agreed. Apparently everyone here knows more than the Toyota engineers and designers combined. 😂 The warning chimes can be removed. TRD Jon has a video sharing a device you can use.
They had 15 years to get this one right. FIFTEEN YEARS!!! You'd think this thing would be perfect. Instead we got a car that feels like it was designed at the last minute during a short lunch break on the back of a paper towel. Pretty pissed off to be honest as I just sold my Land Rover in preparation for receiving this thing and was conned into sticking down a $5k deposit to be one of the first to get one (3 months ago). Now I'm told mine won't be here until January and I'm seriously thinking about cancelling the order.
Toyota won't update anything for a good while. These will still sell, Toyota don't care. Also, historically their cars are always years behind the others, but normally with significant reliability benefits. This time around, both the 300 and 250 not so much.
You are the only bloke i watch now, all the others just rave on with bullshit as im sure they are getting kickbacks. Keep up the frank and honest reviews. I love my 2023 v8 79 dual cab, and prefer to drive it over my 300GR.
I’ve been driving my new 2024 Prado GXL for a week. Overall, I love it. The tech is quite advanced and I think it takes a bit to get used to. It drives very well, very comfortable, is great around the city. I believe many of the complaints I’ve heard are more around ignorance of how to use the tech. The fuel efficiency is truly mind-blowing. Yes, The drink bottle in doors are small and the boot is a bit of a challenge. I do think after market solutions will address this. The tech is very advanced but excellent. I think the Aussie market has to move with the times. It does take time to get used to, but worth the effort. I really love it.
Thank you for sharing this. I’ll include this in my next video to show some positives too. I am just focusing on the negatives but great to see people enjoying their rigs too 👍
The video’s title is a bait. It has attracted all kinds of bugs. Someone even wants it to flop. I think this UA-camr knows what he is doing and it’s paying. Funny how people can hate on a product they don’t wanna use to make those who choose it look like dumb people. I am loving this car man.
Great vehicles. Congrats on your new fortuner. My brother loves his. Check out my fortuner vs 79 video if you haven’t already. I drove a gx fortuner for a month and didn’t want to give it back to the dealer (it was a rental while my hilux was getting repaired)
Glad you are happy with your GX mate. After a lot of research. I ordered the GX for $56,500.00 drive away including factory carpets and boot mat and it will be 2-4 months wait.. Added the Factory tow bar for an additional $1,450.00. The sales person told me I can always upgrade to the 2025 hybrid Fortuner. I told him flat out. No way. No 48V for me. Never EV.
Overpriced, over weight, under powered, no long range tank, no space for a second battery, and that silly boot space arrangement, a total disaster, toyota have forgotten what people buy prados for, that is for adventure, 4WD, touring, towing the caravan or boat, dealers must be fuming, what was a good earner for them is now just a lemon, just for interest 18k AUD cheaper in NZ and no doubt other countries, also other countries get the no hybrid option, toyota should have reworked that engine for more power and made it cleaner, my 2023 150 series is a winner compared to this 250 abomination
Is it that much cheaper in NZ? That’s crazy. Appreciate the thoughts. You aren’t the only one feeling this way. A lot of Prado enthusiasts out there and I feel like Toyota has dropped the ball
The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 250 Series has different prices in Japan depending on the variant and seating capacity: GX diesel five-seater: 5,200,000 yen VX petrol seven-seater: 5,450,000 yen VX diesel seven-seater: 6,300,000 yen ZX diesel seven-seater: 7,350,000 yen
27000 new prados allocated for Australia and 17000 already ordered. Main problem for many people is the cost. 2025 might be the best year to buy a prado 150 at reasonable price.
You are a joke. lol. It’s selling like a hot cake and Toyota can’t keep up. The one who made video opened a door for this new cars’ haters. It’s funny how you wish it flopped and wonder what’s the heart behind that thought. 😅.
Wow. Surprised to see you using my comments from when your Dad and you test drove the Prado. Thank you. Did add a full review of my experience with my Prado as well. The good, bad and poor. Remain very happy that we don’t have the hybrid in South Africa and hope Toyota Australia see the folly of their decisions very soon. Also follow USA sites and whilst no diesels, they don’t have a large battery in the boot with the petrol variants. The level of customisation there is incredible.
I have a 2021 Kakadu. Took a 250 Kakadu for a test drive on the weekend. No KDSS, no rear airbag suspension and no shift paddles. Gone backwards but has gained a very nice sunroof and a HUD. Probably the big deal breaker for me (apart from the boot) was no KDSS, you are back to that wonderful bodyroll, although not as bad as the non KDSS 150. Wont be upgrading for a while.
Something I haven’t mentioned is that the Prado 150 resale price could also increase should these new models not be popular. You are right, first models (and their owners) always are the guinea pigs
Add blue doesnt replace the DPF as far as I know. The Toyota dealership told me they have both? As far as I know they now have DPF, Add blue and the hybrid solution. Getting more and more complicated. I would have loved the new 70 series and the 250 to also get the v6 diesel. But something tells me that hot V design of it doesn't allow it to work too hard. I seriously hate all the intrusive tech. Ill def be going for a 76 2.8 auto over the 250.
I wonder how long before someone works out how to remove the DPF,AdBlue and hybrid battery and make it work ,or can we import one from South Africa then disable the safety rubbish ,then i might be interested ,in the meantime I'll keep my 2012 gxl 200 series
200’s are beasts! I want one some day. A trade secret in the 79 series circles are dpf deletes but a tune is required and is wildly illegal. But still possible 🤷♂️
Some very interesting points. I hate to say it but I dont think this current model is for towing or touring. The lack of fuel when towing will also be restrictive. A weekend getaway maybe but that's all. From what I have seen most hybrids seem to have a much reduced payload to the non hybrid versions. That totyota has not partnered with a third party provider like Ford & ARB to provide upgrades that do not cancel your warranty may push some customers to Ford. I just dont understand that Being an existing Prado 150 owner I would not be getting this model. Other models and engines may come. . That higher display may be good but would make it very hard to use a third party GPS. I think Petrol would also be best now possibly ? . I just cant see any reason to upgrade yet, I would wait and see how things pan out over the next year or so and hope for a better model for Australian towing & conditions
Mate, completely agree. 👍 the smaller fuel capacity tells a big story. No towing will be done with this for those who know how to read gvm’s and payloads. I’m actually making a video about that in a couple of days where I compare these figures with its competitors. Should be interesting to see what you think of the payload etc compared to its rivals
I’ve got a ‘24 V6 Everest. Please be aware the fuel tank capacity is only 80 litres. Worse than the 250’s 110. Would hate to see what my range is towing a van.
I'd challenge your assumption that diesel is still so popular in Australia. It's a fact that for many cars, there is no other option but many people would choose the petrol version if there was a choice. Compared to my 150 series, the decrease in fuel capacity, the loss of storage and, most importantly, all the computer nagging, would lead me to never buy one of these. I already have a mother and a wife, I don't need my car to nag me too!
Mate tell your dad to keep his money till Toyota iron out the bugs or go for the lexus equivalent and go petrol desiel is on its way out in this world now
Thank you Merv! I’ll pass it on. It’s looking more and more like petrol is the way to go (happy I got my FJ) but the invasive hybrid and extreme tech/safety systems are not the answer for the 4wd enthusiasts. A lot of weight and not much benefit. Let’s see how these problems get sorted. Stay tuned!
I appreciate that. Thank you. I feel like that after they started dressing up their vehicles like the hilux in more “fancy attire”, they have been trying too hard become relevant after ford frog leaped them in sales. It’s a step in the right direction in some areas but for the purists who want practicality, this isn’t it as far as I can tell so far. Keep in mind I love my Toyotas as you know so this hurts to say
Love my 2016 Kakadu. Has all the creature comforts, tried and tested offroad tech and no unnecessary bits of annoying tech. Not to mention the other omissions in the 250 like a smaller tank, no sliding middle row, smaller boot to name a few.
Good vid mate. We own a 2022 VX and are thinking of upgrading but right now all the research I'm doing doesn't look good. The 250 has the look but there's more to it than just looks. Be interesting to see ur thoughts on all models from GX up, just gives another unbiased opinion. Looking forward to watching future video's of the 250. BTW, nothing at all wrong with the 22 VX apart from a little body roll. Cheers, keep the vids coming. 👍
I upgraded my 2019 gxl. Bought 65k and sold 50k after 5 years and 100000km. My old prado was 130kw model so new prado with 150kw engine significant upgrade for me. You might not see a difference as you have the 150kw engine.
If Toyota Australia offered the 2.4L 4 Cylinder i-FORCE MAX Hybrid Petrol engine (like they get in Nth America), it would have been my choice (over the diesel). I'm in the market for the 250 Prado Altitude, but unsure if I should wait another year Dec 2025 or get it now. The current 2.8L diesel we get is not Euro 6d standard compliant (only Euro 5). From Dec 2025, all new versions of new vehicles sold in Australia must meet Euro 6d. The standard will then apply to all new vehicles on sale from 2028. So it will be interesting what engine Toyota Australia will upgrade the Prado then to.
With what you are saying about the new Prado and the issues with the new 300's I have gone back to the dmax after having my 4.7 petrol 200 for about 6 years
From what I can tell 8000km per ad blue fill up, I took a altitude for a test drive, I personally really like the interior design... found the electric steering to be very nice. If you arent looking for 7 seats... I think you could definitely build a nice touring setup but at 100k price point, 300 series if towing a van is definitely a better option, boats skis ect which is lighter then i dont see any issues with the prado 250. When it comes to the battery system, unless they can prove the modifications youve made have damaged that system then under Australian consumer law they can't legally void your warranty... a non hybrid model would definitely be a nice addition to the Australian market, although emissions laws are pushing Toyota in the direction they are, overall the new prado is a nice car that seems well finished/built outside of the boot space... styling is very nice to look at, really I think as a light touring vehicle with a few tasteful mods it could be the right fit for alot of people but certainly not for everyone... especially at the price point it sits in, id be waiting for aftermarket support & the bugs to be worked out but thats just me 🤷♂️ If tuff touring is what you want to do, for the price point id be looking at 70s instead
Have been using adblue in my landcruiser for the past 7 years now The tank is 12 litres. When you are down to the last 3 litres a light comes on the dash. Adblue is sold is sold in 10 litre tubs. I always buy it in 5 litre tubs. Much easier to handle without spilling. Try lifting 10 litres and lean over the engine to reach filler , ouch! Always use a funnel if one is not provided. 7000 miles later it will need refilling.
I have a 150 series, but the Kakadu version. I've been told that, for this particular version, I can't get a GVM upgrade at all because it would stuff up all the sensors. I can't even get rails for the side steps! So, even if a GVM upgrade for the 250 series may become available later, it may not be available for the Kakadu version.
Was totally shocked at how much space was taken up in the boot in all 5 models tho that 250mm height in the GXL, VX & Kakadu is ridiculous. Not to mention the adblue & loss of 150L fuel tank. These are some of the reasons I'm feeling very relieved that I bought one of the last brand new 2023 Kakadu's in May this year as I didn't like the look of the new FJ Cruiser looking Prado either. I think once people realise all the negatives with this newer model the 150 series Prado's are going to hold their value like nothing else.
I have the Lexus GX 550 on order here in Texas it’s nice but basically a prado with leather. I have just seen the 2025 Nissan armada pro4x online but not in person. I think called the patrol in Australia. It looks like you get a lot for less money including a rear differential lock and 100 more horsepower in the Nissan. Looks promising. What do you guys in Australia think is it better than the GX.
Toyota is definitely more popular but there is still a big following for Nissans. Fords are the best selling vehicle over here but Nissans are popular amongst the enthusiasts. They run a v8 petrol is pretty rare here in Australia now
Keep up the good work . Love your videos . I was in the market for 150 prado but couldn't justify the price then , bought tank 300. But with the new one it's even harder.At that time new prado was a year away and I thought paying 78k for gxl with leather package was a bad idea now I wish I didn't cancel my order looking at the new one😂
Is there a massive improvement over the previous model? It might look cooler and have more tech, but that's about it. It's heavier, slower, same engine as the old model, poorly designed rear seats/cargo area, carries less fuel, and 10k more expensive. I'd rather save 20k and buy a new Isuzu MU-x.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Most people aren’t seeing the upgrade potential from their older vehicles and are hanging onto them or looking elsewhere in the market
Even with Toyota's reputation for reliability, I would never (again) buy the early version of an all new model. I prefer to be at the end of the cycle with my 2022 Prado where I think it's safer. That said, the new model looks very good and an eventual hybrid model might tempt me. Thanks for the video.
Not worth the upgrade. Not at the rediculous price Toyota is asking. You are much better off with an Everest. My son works for Toyota and he brought one home for us to look. I have to say it looks really nice at first clance. After a bit of a closer look I notice the dash is loose in places and the motor is very under-powered.
The drive train is a concern of mine. The other offerings are looking good and we will definitely be shopping around before making up our mind 👍 Great to know though and I’ll chuck in my next video
I don’t like the plastic they put over the transmission hump in front of the second row seat. That will quickly get damaged with scarf marks. Would have been better if they’d had carpet over the transmission hump like has traditionally been for years. I have seen on an overseas model might have been the Lexus version, where they have covered it up with a moulded mat in this area.
GXL has 'leather' electric adjustment seats with heating and cooling but NO lumbar support, go figure! My povo XL Ranger came with lumbar support! I'm out, I'm not buying a 250, Toyota has lost the plot.
Thanks James. Really considering it. We are good friends with the department of the interior and they are a stockist for recaro so we might give them a call 👍
Keep in mind, there is an army of very convincing competitor comments trolling the car to push people into their own cars. If they make a special mention of the other “great car” they bought, that’s a red flag. Not always, but something to be aware of.
Thanks mate. Yeah I get that on my videos but what I like about my table is that the numbers don’t lie. The ford and isuzu aren’t the best vehicles either for towing at max GVM and quite frankly I’m better off sticking with our prado as they tow about the same at max GVM. Can argue with the numbers 🤷♂️
Ciao, avevo un J120 ed ora ho un J150: 700000 km. percorsi con due Land Cruiser e mai un problema e quella attuale penso che da sola arriverà ad 1000000 dato che la meccanica è indistruttibile se regolarmente seguita e rispettata da persone che guidano con una certa sensibilità. Non c'è paragone con il livello di assistenza tra le marche europee e queste giapponesi. Di europee ne ho avuto ben 17!!! Purtroppo sull'Everest non c'è adblue, tanto meno le colonnine di ricarica per le macchine elettriche, sempre che queste riescano almeno ad avvicinarsi (da molto lontano)!
Up until the current release I certainly was not a hater. In fact I'm still not a so-called hater. However, just observing what Toyota has offered and seeing actual reports from new owners. I am dissapointed. I simply look at the huge jump in price and see this vehicle as a very poor option. I bought a new Pajero 3.2 Diesel Manual in 2010, this was the car I had plans of apossible replacement. It is still in excellent, I was just contemplating a change. Toyota = Charge as much as we can and give the least possible. The cult following will que up for their offering! (I see nothing wrong with a cult following, it usuall means that it is well deserved and that the product is very good.) Pre-Historic engine! I was actually looking forward to the arrival. I was expecting possibly a high tech V6 Diesel, good towing capacity. Plenty of traditional room to fit all camping kit. (Not a stupid battery) What did we get? Reduced fule capacity and Add Blue! I just don't get the battery? .... I like the looks. V6, no hybrid and back to the good sized fuel capacity and a sensibly priced package. I'm in. Too many engine issues now. Oil failure 00! Australian outback is very hot. Add a load and the recomended oil doesn.t cope so it seems? How would you know of the Crook dealers would put the grade oil that the experts are recomending to solve the Toyota issue? Knowing Toyota, the their recomended oil will destroy the engine. However, of you replace it with a better suited, it would destroy your warranty? It's a time-bomb anyway I look at it?
Went to my local toyota dealer here in Perth, checked an Altitude,,boring interior, black black and more black,no enhancement,s like the 150,series, lack of options,,just straight disappointing, I have 2021 Kakadu,,won't be trading after checking the 250,,,,great style,just very very disappointing interior
I got the Landcruiser 1958 hybrid for the north American market. 1500 klm and all good. Just some tiny metallic noise from the left side door, the dealer will take a look and fix it. Otherwise, it's buttery smooth. You will never find a perfect car or women :)
Truth. Good to hear you are enjoying your vehicle. These videos aren’t meant to bring down anyone about their vehicle purchase but to inform potential buyers (like myself) of the capability of the vehicle. My FJ is useless according to my specs table but I still love it haha
My 150 series which I bought brand new 2 years ago has dpf and adblue. No issues with it so far. The tank holds 14 Letres of adblue. It is in the engine bay. There is a white tank with a blue screw cap, just undo that and top up the adblue once every 6000k or so. The car tells you when it needs adblue, and you can always see how much is in the tank. Anyone who has a 150 series Prado must have adblue in it. The 250 having a smaller fuel tank has nothing to do with adblue. The adblue tank is only small, so hardly going to make any difference. One thing I know I am not going to swap my 150 series for the 250. Too much plastic on the 250 and mine has absolutely everything the 250 series has. Would be absolutely no point, just a waste of money. And as mine is modded I would be actually downgrading if I bought the 250. Another point the 250 weighs more than the 150 but has exactly the same power, so the 250 is actually a little slower than the 150, it is also less economical.
All good points but as mentioned our 2022 prado doesn’t have Adblue. Like you mentioned, it would be a downgrade to get the 250 from what we can see. Heavier with more hassles. Not sure if I have the patience for all that safety tech and adding another job to my servicing (adblue even though it’s easy it’s still another thing to do). Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Keen to see what you think of upcoming videos
@@Car-crazy good place for adblue. I see so many inner city types or even just absent minded putting adblue into diesel tank. It will happen. Better to place the adblue on the other side or in the engine well.
Rule of thumb, never buy the first generation until the bugs are ironed out. Personally, there’s not a new vehicle on the Market I’d spend my money on regardless of brand. Toyota is to expensive and have lost the plot and definitely not the vehicle they use to be , BMW also went the same way. I’ll keep my 11 year old PRE DPF DMAX, no where near perfect, can be a slug at times but never had an issue. Manufactures are now making cars more complex ( emissions, safety, basically stuff you don’t need ). Also I believe people expectations of these vehicles is asking to much. They are basically work horses, they are based on the work horse. More fruit = more weight. I believe you want luxury buy a SUV or car, want to travel, tow head off-road, buy a base model. Remember we old folk have traveled this country quite successfully in the past with out all the gimmicks people now expect.
Hello Australia absolutely don’t buy a LC250 I did buy the FE here in the Uk and rejected it after 10 days I wanted it for Towing it had the OEM tow bar and Electrics BUT the car did not recognise its own electrics etc Toyota told me I must DISABLE SOME FUNCTIONS for Towing BUT will not state which ones !! The manual tells you to DISABLE 9 Safety functions!! For towing Rear brakes squealing really bad and getting worse and I Paid £80k in the UK I would not put 3.5 Ton behind this vehicle it’s dangerous. Dave in the UK
I’m in the UK and have a 150 MY22. Adblue - is to neutralise NOx and DPF is to remove particulates which cause respiratory problems. Just got back from a trip to Morocco with just over 1200 miles off-road sand/gravel/rock and 600 miles tarmac. Used 10litres of Adblue from start to finish which is about the capacity of the tank. Another 2000 on highway going through Spain and UK and used about the same. I don’t see Adblue as any more inconvenient than windscreen washer fluid but I would recommend getting one of those collapsible funnels because when you spill it,it makes a mess. DPF regeneration about every 150 miles but doesn’t need to be run at speed for regeneration to be initiated. There is also a manual regeneration option which I think is as a result of the Australian class action. Overall I don’t see DPF or Adblue as too much of an issue. That said, had there been an option for a petrol engine I would probably have gone down that route for other reasons.
@@Murrayhewitt1967Fair point. I guess I’ve just treated it as I would fuel and other fluids. I did carry 5 litres with me but never used it but I also carry transmission oil, engine oil, air filters and coolant so agree that you have to watch the gauge. Key thing is availability in the area you are travelling in I guess.
i dont get the whinging?... the prado is a shopping trolley for taking the kids to school..... if you want to tow 3.5T buy something that does it, dont whinge that the prado doesnt.
You let yourself down with this video. It's mainly regurgitation of a handful of online posts (including one from South Africa with very little relevance to Australia) and your experience of a single test drive. Of course there will be teething issues with a newly released vehicle and not everyone will like it and there will always be pre-order cancellations. Overall a poorly researched and delivered video - you can better (as you have in the past).
so everything about this vehicle is negative? Nothing positive about it ? Is anybody buying it still? If this is true then Toyota will be bankrupt soon
ua-cam.com/video/iihTs9hn9ZQ/v-deo.htmlsi=rd66YrapvcQNNv5N Some of the new 250 owners are under the impression that it's a lite 300 series and it's only a matter of buying 300 parts and bolt them on for and up grade
Yes very true. I saw a video tonight of someone saying that it’s basically a 300 series. I’d say that’s like saying a prado 150 is like a 200 series. Different vehicles with different specs and very different capabilities
I always thought the older 150 Prado was ugly and ungainly to look at, but was truly well thought out inside and as a tourer. Then the pictures of the 250 appear it looks the part finally. Sadly, the interior is a down grade and the adas is next level horrible. This will not sell well with the fanboys. Too complex, too expensive, too many beeps and bongs. Not enough range and a small boot. Pass.
Yesterday I drove a prado 250. I am surprised with plastic steering wheel and low quality plastic kind of dashboard. My kluger 2023 feels more superior than this 15 K more prado. Big disappointed 🤦♂️🤦♂️
This door has been opened for the haters of j250 and guess what, comment section did not disappoint. I already like it and having fun. Won’t let sad people ruin it. 😅😂
Haters? LOL I bet you line up over night to get the newest Apple phone that is almost exactly the same as the last. There's a sucker born every minute. 😂😂😂
@ hater spotted and he is a clown too, by those emojis. Lmao.
Ok time for a few facts! 1. AdBlue is contained in a separate tank to the diesel 2. Ad Blue is on the Everest as well so there's that 3. Never buy the first generation of a completely new model - wait until the bugs have been ironed out.
Ad blue and diesel definitely don't mix. If they ever are mixed you need the full fuel system ,tank to injector, removed and replaced - cleaned,the is no inbetween solution.
Completely agree. Love your work John 👍
adblue is for a$$holes
The ad blue is in a separate tank so only a blind person would put ad blue in the diesel tank. Ad blue is not new as it has been in many vehicles for a long time and is not a problem, just top it up like you do the diesel tank
@@johnlopes1341 how many people put petrol in a diesel car ? Yep lots.
Had a 120, put an order in for a 250, waited, waited and waited more. Bought a 2020 Patrol Y62 in the meantime with the plan on selling it when the 250 was released. Finally test drove the 250 Altitude last week and the following day put in an order for a brand new Y62 Ti. The 250 looks great, but that’s where it ends sadly because I have been a Toyota fan boy for a long time, but just can’t overlook its shortcomings. I think it really now qualifies for a school pick up family car.
Looks like the demographic doesn’t it? Keen to see your thoughts on the new patrol. We are looking for a new tow rig in the near future 👍
@@NorthOz If you can afford to drive a V8, it’s one of your best options in my opinion. I’m probably spending an extra $500-$1,000 on fuel every year, but I get many benefits and don’t care one bit. Owning a car you enjoy driving isn’t just about fuel usage. Powerful V8 engine, a stack of room, reliability and an updated head unit makes this car quite desirable actually. And whilst many complain about the lack of tech, I prefer this to a million bells and whistles going off every few seconds. Don’t forget to do a wood grain delete if that’s not your thing. They told me I should test a Y62 and then choose a color. They were right. Haha. Each to their own I guess. Certainly good value.
Trouble is the new patrol will not be here until 2026
Just bought a new Patrol mate. Tows our van with ease, absolutely love it!
This…. Toyota………this.
Great honest review and I love the look of the 250..
but I’ll stick with my V6 petrol 120 series 😊👌🏼
Yes it’s older but has plenty of room/storage and huge 180lt fuel capacity 👌🏼
Can’t go wrong with the 120. I like the look too but the price tag is hard to justify for a cool looking car 🤷♂️
Nice video mate! Thanks for showing ours :) Also some good points from your viewers. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 6 months with them and the mods being developed for them.
Thanks Matt and Holly! Loving the Prado videos and looking forward to seeing your continued thoughts on your ownership. I’ll chuck in a clip or two of your off-road test in an upcoming video 😉 Love your work and keen to see what you have coming up
@@NorthOz Yeah you can definitely throw it in but I didn't realise the centre diff didn't automatically lock so it was a pretty big stuff up on my part. We will have a trip where we will be towing a small van soon with it so we are keen to see how it goes!
@@OverlandTravellershaha I saw that! It’s all good. I stuff up all the time. I forgot to lock my hubs on my 79 the last time I went out on the tracks. I like that you mentioned you stuffed up though. Shows honesty. Keen to see your next vids and love the basic build of the 60 as well
Love all these comments. Been buying and using Land Cruisers (60, 80, 100, and 200) since 1987. Heard the same thing when the FJ60 was replaced by the 80. Then the 80 replaced by the 100. Then the 100 replaced by the 200. I'm sure this, along with the 300, will become a tried and true, loved vehicle in the next couple of years. Especially after the keyboard warriors that don't actually use the vehicle for what it was designed for have moved on. I do wish, however, there is a way to remove all the warning noises. I hate those.
I think you're right.
Agreed. Apparently everyone here knows more than the Toyota engineers and designers combined. 😂 The warning chimes can be removed. TRD Jon has a video sharing a device you can use.
They had 15 years to get this one right. FIFTEEN YEARS!!! You'd think this thing would be perfect. Instead we got a car that feels like it was designed at the last minute during a short lunch break on the back of a paper towel. Pretty pissed off to be honest as I just sold my Land Rover in preparation for receiving this thing and was conned into sticking down a $5k deposit to be one of the first to get one (3 months ago). Now I'm told mine won't be here until January and I'm seriously thinking about cancelling the order.
That sucks man. Sorry to hear that. The new design has been reported by many to be a let down. Hopefully there’s a redesign on the horizon
They never mentioned adblue until only recently.
With all the negative comments and deposit cancelations i think a big upgrade will be here very soon
It’s not worth it mate, you deserve better product and service for your money.
Toyota won't update anything for a good while. These will still sell, Toyota don't care. Also, historically their cars are always years behind the others, but normally with significant reliability benefits. This time around, both the 300 and 250 not so much.
You are the only bloke i watch now, all the others just rave on with bullshit as im sure they are getting kickbacks. Keep up the frank and honest reviews. I love my 2023 v8 79 dual cab, and prefer to drive it over my 300GR.
Thanks Steve! Means a lot. Let me know what else you want to see on here. Keen to make more content on the vehicles over the coming weeks 👍
I’ve been driving my new 2024 Prado GXL for a week. Overall, I love it. The tech is quite advanced and I think it takes a bit to get used to. It drives very well, very comfortable, is great around the city. I believe many of the complaints I’ve heard are more around ignorance of how to use the tech. The fuel efficiency is truly mind-blowing. Yes, The drink bottle in doors are small and the boot is a bit of a challenge. I do think after market solutions will address this. The tech is very advanced but excellent. I think the Aussie market has to move with the times. It does take time to get used to, but worth the effort.
I really love it.
Thank you for sharing this. I’ll include this in my next video to show some positives too. I am just focusing on the negatives but great to see people enjoying their rigs too 👍
The video’s title is a bait. It has attracted all kinds of bugs. Someone even wants it to flop. I think this UA-camr knows what he is doing and it’s paying. Funny how people can hate on a product they don’t wanna use to make those who choose it look like dumb people. I am loving this car man.
As you pointed out "Great around the city" However, not very good offroad. Poor storage.
I bought a new Fortuner GX a month ago for $57 k more than happy with it so far.
Great vehicles. Congrats on your new fortuner. My brother loves his. Check out my fortuner vs 79 video if you haven’t already. I drove a gx fortuner for a month and didn’t want to give it back to the dealer (it was a rental while my hilux was getting repaired)
Glad you are happy with your GX mate. After a lot of research. I ordered the GX for $56,500.00 drive away including factory carpets and boot mat and it will be 2-4 months wait.. Added the Factory tow bar for an additional $1,450.00. The sales person told me I can always upgrade to the 2025 hybrid Fortuner. I told him flat out. No way. No 48V for me. Never EV.
Overpriced, over weight, under powered, no long range tank, no space for a second battery, and that silly boot space arrangement, a total disaster, toyota have forgotten what people buy prados for, that is for adventure, 4WD, touring, towing the caravan or boat, dealers must be fuming, what was a good earner for them is now just a lemon, just for interest 18k AUD cheaper in NZ and no doubt other countries, also other countries get the no hybrid option, toyota should have reworked that engine for more power and made it cleaner, my 2023 150 series is a winner compared to this 250 abomination
Is it that much cheaper in NZ? That’s crazy. Appreciate the thoughts. You aren’t the only one feeling this way. A lot of Prado enthusiasts out there and I feel like Toyota has dropped the ball
@@NorthOz the GXL is 84k NZD drive away (74k AUD), they also get the 5 seat GXL option, OZ has been dudded
Look at the yen price for a top of the range 250 Prado in Japan. Equates to $75000 Aussie. We getting ripped.
The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 250 Series has different prices in Japan depending on the variant and seating capacity:
GX diesel five-seater: 5,200,000 yen
VX petrol seven-seater: 5,450,000 yen
VX diesel seven-seater: 6,300,000 yen
ZX diesel seven-seater: 7,350,000 yen
Toyota new 8 speed reseverse approach😢
27000 new prados allocated for Australia and 17000 already ordered. Main problem for many people is the cost. 2025 might be the best year to buy a prado 150 at reasonable price.
Would rather buy a base 300. Toyota's glory days are over. The Prado will be a flop, just like the new Tacoma.
Base 300 is looking really good round a bout now…
You are a joke. lol. It’s selling like a hot cake and Toyota can’t keep up. The one who made video opened a door for this new cars’ haters. It’s funny how you wish it flopped and wonder what’s the heart behind that thought. 😅.
WTF are you on drugs
Wow. Surprised to see you using my comments from when your Dad and you test drove the Prado. Thank you. Did add a full review of my experience with my Prado as well. The good, bad and poor. Remain very happy that we don’t have the hybrid in South Africa and hope Toyota Australia see the folly of their decisions very soon. Also follow USA sites and whilst no diesels, they don’t have a large battery in the boot with the petrol variants. The level of customisation there is incredible.
I have a 2021 Kakadu. Took a 250 Kakadu for a test drive on the weekend. No KDSS, no rear airbag suspension and no shift paddles. Gone backwards but has gained a very nice sunroof and a HUD. Probably the big deal breaker for me (apart from the boot) was no KDSS, you are back to that wonderful bodyroll, although not as bad as the non KDSS 150. Wont be upgrading for a while.
Never buy the first new model of any car they always have issues, I got the last of the 150 prado vx Oct 2023 I'm keeping it.
Something I haven’t mentioned is that the Prado 150 resale price could also increase should these new models not be popular. You are right, first models (and their owners) always are the guinea pigs
@@NorthOzabsolutely. Here in Japan my 2023 model 150 series Prado is worth more now than when I bought it brand new 2 years ago. I am keeping mine.
Yep me too. Trading in my modded 150 for the 250 would be like a downgrade for me.
Stoked I got one of the last 2023 Kakadu's in Crystal Pearl in May. Had to pay $99,990 but totally worth it.
Mark
Fantastic report yet again
Always a great watch
Great work
Cheers
Paul
I converted to a Y62 from a Prado, over diesel and the modern environmental issues.
How have you found the patrol? Would you be considering getting the Y63?
@@NorthOz it looks nice, but I like the sound of the v8
Cant tow with it.
Unless you have shares in a SERVO@croz2530
Add blue doesnt replace the DPF as far as I know. The Toyota dealership told me they have both? As far as I know they now have DPF, Add blue and the hybrid solution. Getting more and more complicated. I would have loved the new 70 series and the 250 to also get the v6 diesel. But something tells me that hot V design of it doesn't allow it to work too hard.
I seriously hate all the intrusive tech. Ill def be going for a 76 2.8 auto over the 250.
All of a sudden the 2.8L 70 series doesn’t look so bad 🤷♂️
Fuel capacity was reduced to fit the spare under the vehicle, like the Altitude 150. Nothing to do with AdBlue.
I wonder how long before someone works out how to remove the DPF,AdBlue and hybrid battery and make it work ,or can we import one from South Africa then disable the safety rubbish ,then i might be interested ,in the meantime I'll keep my 2012 gxl 200 series
200’s are beasts! I want one some day. A trade secret in the 79 series circles are dpf deletes but a tune is required and is wildly illegal. But still possible 🤷♂️
Some very interesting points.
I hate to say it but I dont think this current model is for towing or touring. The lack of fuel when towing will also be restrictive.
A weekend getaway maybe but that's all.
From what I have seen most hybrids seem to have a much reduced payload to the non hybrid versions.
That totyota has not partnered with a third party provider like Ford & ARB to provide upgrades that do not cancel your warranty may push some customers to Ford. I just dont understand that
Being an existing Prado 150 owner I would not be getting this model. Other models and engines may come.
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That higher display may be good but would make it very hard to use a third party GPS.
I think Petrol would also be best now possibly ?
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I just cant see any reason to upgrade yet, I would wait and see how things pan out over the next year or so and hope for a better model for Australian towing & conditions
Mate, completely agree. 👍 the smaller fuel capacity tells a big story. No towing will be done with this for those who know how to read gvm’s and payloads. I’m actually making a video about that in a couple of days where I compare these figures with its competitors. Should be interesting to see what you think of the payload etc compared to its rivals
I’ve got a ‘24 V6 Everest. Please be aware the fuel tank capacity is only 80 litres. Worse than the 250’s 110. Would hate to see what my range is towing a van.
I'd challenge your assumption that diesel is still so popular in Australia. It's a fact that for many cars, there is no other option but many people would choose the petrol version if there was a choice.
Compared to my 150 series, the decrease in fuel capacity, the loss of storage and, most importantly, all the computer nagging, would lead me to never buy one of these. I already have a mother and a wife, I don't need my car to nag me too!
Mate tell your dad to keep his money till Toyota iron out the bugs or go for the lexus equivalent and go petrol desiel is on its way out in this world now
Thank you Merv! I’ll pass it on. It’s looking more and more like petrol is the way to go (happy I got my FJ) but the invasive hybrid and extreme tech/safety systems are not the answer for the 4wd enthusiasts. A lot of weight and not much benefit. Let’s see how these problems get sorted. Stay tuned!
Cancelled my order for VX after view/test drive.
This seems common! Crazy times
I also cancelled 250 altitude it’s not good enough for theat high price.
Toyota has lost its place, there cars nowadays are no way near there yesterday cars/ utes.. great video 👍👍👍🇦🇺
I appreciate that. Thank you. I feel like that after they started dressing up their vehicles like the hilux in more “fancy attire”, they have been trying too hard become relevant after ford frog leaped them in sales. It’s a step in the right direction in some areas but for the purists who want practicality, this isn’t it as far as I can tell so far. Keep in mind I love my Toyotas as you know so this hurts to say
True.
Love my 2016 Kakadu. Has all the creature comforts, tried and tested offroad tech and no unnecessary bits of annoying tech. Not to mention the other omissions in the 250 like a smaller tank, no sliding middle row, smaller boot to name a few.
Great points Ryan 👍
@NorthOz Thanks for keeping things real and to the point mate. Keep the content coming!
Good vid mate. We own a 2022 VX and are thinking of upgrading but right now all the research I'm doing doesn't look good. The 250 has the look but there's more to it than just looks. Be interesting to see ur thoughts on all models from GX up, just gives another unbiased opinion. Looking forward to watching future video's of the 250. BTW, nothing at all wrong with the 22 VX apart from a little body roll.
Cheers, keep the vids coming. 👍
I upgraded my 2019 gxl. Bought 65k and sold 50k after 5 years and 100000km. My old prado was 130kw model so new prado with 150kw engine significant upgrade for me. You might not see a difference as you have the 150kw engine.
Yeah, definitely not getting an upgrade wrt the engine.
If Toyota Australia offered the 2.4L 4 Cylinder i-FORCE MAX Hybrid Petrol engine (like they get in Nth America), it would have been my choice (over the diesel). I'm in the market for the 250 Prado Altitude, but unsure if I should wait another year Dec 2025 or get it now. The current 2.8L diesel we get is not Euro 6d standard compliant (only Euro 5). From Dec 2025, all new versions of new vehicles sold in Australia must meet Euro 6d. The standard will then apply to all new vehicles on sale from 2028. So it will be interesting what engine Toyota Australia will upgrade the Prado then to.
With what you are saying about the new Prado and the issues with the new 300's I have gone back to the dmax after having my 4.7 petrol 200 for about 6 years
But in South Africa we dont have hybrid( no batteries) in a cargo area.
That would sell like bunnings sausages over here (Australian equivalent of hot cakes)
From what I can tell 8000km per ad blue fill up, I took a altitude for a test drive, I personally really like the interior design... found the electric steering to be very nice.
If you arent looking for 7 seats... I think you could definitely build a nice touring setup but at 100k price point, 300 series if towing a van is definitely a better option, boats skis ect which is lighter then i dont see any issues with the prado 250. When it comes to the battery system, unless they can prove the modifications youve made have damaged that system then under Australian consumer law they can't legally void your warranty... a non hybrid model would definitely be a nice addition to the Australian market, although emissions laws are pushing Toyota in the direction they are, overall the new prado is a nice car that seems well finished/built outside of the boot space... styling is very nice to look at, really I think as a light touring vehicle with a few tasteful mods it could be the right fit for alot of people but certainly not for everyone... especially at the price point it sits in, id be waiting for aftermarket support & the bugs to be worked out but thats just me 🤷♂️
If tuff touring is what you want to do, for the price point id be looking at 70s instead
Have been using adblue in my landcruiser for the past 7 years now
The tank is 12 litres. When you are down to the last 3 litres a light comes on the dash. Adblue is sold is sold in 10 litre tubs. I always buy it in 5 litre tubs. Much easier to handle without spilling. Try lifting 10 litres and lean over the engine to reach filler , ouch! Always use a funnel if one is not provided. 7000 miles later it will need refilling.
I have a 150 series, but the Kakadu version. I've been told that, for this particular version, I can't get a GVM upgrade at all because it would stuff up all the sensors. I can't even get rails for the side steps! So, even if a GVM upgrade for the 250 series may become available later, it may not be available for the Kakadu version.
Just imagine what the uproar is going to be like when the 300 series has adblue added to it in the coming years...
NIce video brother.... I love the new 250 looks but wow, I would wait a few more years.... those landcruiser forums are not joking.
Thanks mate! Much appreciated. That’s for sure
@ new Toyotas are trying to keep up with the others. Limp mode city bro
Electric tailgate is so slow and the beeping is so loud. Why did they do this?
I saw that on a video tonight too. How annoying!
Was totally shocked at how much space was taken up in the boot in all 5 models tho that 250mm height in the GXL, VX & Kakadu is ridiculous. Not to mention the adblue & loss of 150L fuel tank. These are some of the reasons I'm feeling very relieved that I bought one of the last brand new 2023 Kakadu's in May this year as I didn't like the look of the new FJ Cruiser looking Prado either. I think once people realise all the negatives with this newer model the 150 series Prado's are going to hold their value like nothing else.
Bottoms out on rear bump stops on mild off road tracks
I have the Lexus GX 550 on order here in Texas it’s nice but basically a prado with leather. I have just seen the 2025 Nissan armada pro4x online but not in person. I think called the patrol in Australia. It looks like you get a lot for less money including a rear differential lock and 100 more horsepower in the Nissan. Looks promising. What do you guys in Australia think is it better than the GX.
Toyota is definitely more popular but there is still a big following for Nissans. Fords are the best selling vehicle over here but Nissans are popular amongst the enthusiasts. They run a v8 petrol is pretty rare here in Australia now
tell your dad to keep his prado :)
I’ll pass it on 😉 Having a hard time justifying the cost of the 250 that’s for sure
@@NorthOz same
Keep up the good work . Love your videos . I was in the market for 150 prado but couldn't justify the price then , bought tank 300. But with the new one it's even harder.At that time new prado was a year away and I thought paying 78k for gxl with leather package was a bad idea now I wish I didn't cancel my order looking at the new one😂
For most of the people commenting here, the best thing about the new 250 is ,....if you dont like it you don't have to buy it.
Thanks for sharing well done
Thank you Daniel! Much appreciated as always 🤙
Is there a massive improvement over the previous model? It might look cooler and have more tech, but that's about it. It's heavier, slower, same engine as the old model, poorly designed rear seats/cargo area, carries less fuel, and 10k more expensive. I'd rather save 20k and buy a new Isuzu MU-x.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Most people aren’t seeing the upgrade potential from their older vehicles and are hanging onto them or looking elsewhere in the market
Even with Toyota's reputation for reliability, I would never (again) buy the early version of an all new model. I prefer to be at the end of the cycle with my 2022 Prado where I think it's safer. That said, the new model looks very good and an eventual hybrid model might tempt me. Thanks for the video.
Completely agree. Glad to see people out here with heads on straight 👍
Not worth the upgrade. Not at the rediculous price Toyota is asking. You are much better off with an Everest. My son works for Toyota and he brought one home for us to look. I have to say it looks really nice at first clance. After a bit of a closer look I notice the dash is loose in places and the motor is very under-powered.
The drive train is a concern of mine. The other offerings are looking good and we will definitely be shopping around before making up our mind 👍 Great to know though and I’ll chuck in my next video
Close the side doors and hear / feel the tinniest.
I don’t like the plastic they put over the transmission hump in front of the second row seat. That will quickly get damaged with scarf marks. Would have been better if they’d had carpet over the transmission hump like has traditionally been for years. I have seen on an overseas model might have been the Lexus version, where they have covered it up with a moulded mat in this area.
GXL has 'leather' electric adjustment seats with heating and cooling but NO lumbar support, go figure! My povo XL Ranger came with lumbar support! I'm out, I'm not buying a 250, Toyota has lost the plot.
Really? So only the VX and up have lumbar? That’s a step back especially for long trips which is what these vehicles WERE used for
Keep the 150 and upgrade the drivers seat to a Recaro Off-road Adventurer.t To say its an amazing transformation understates it totally.
Thanks James. Really considering it. We are good friends with the department of the interior and they are a stockist for recaro so we might give them a call 👍
Keep in mind, there is an army of very convincing competitor comments trolling the car to push people into their own cars. If they make a special mention of the other “great car” they bought, that’s a red flag. Not always, but something to be aware of.
Thanks mate. Yeah I get that on my videos but what I like about my table is that the numbers don’t lie. The ford and isuzu aren’t the best vehicles either for towing at max GVM and quite frankly I’m better off sticking with our prado as they tow about the same at max GVM. Can argue with the numbers 🤷♂️
Ciao, avevo un J120 ed ora ho un J150: 700000 km. percorsi con due Land Cruiser e mai un problema e quella attuale penso che da sola arriverà ad 1000000 dato che la meccanica è indistruttibile se regolarmente seguita e rispettata da persone che guidano con una certa sensibilità. Non c'è paragone con il livello di assistenza tra le marche europee e queste giapponesi. Di europee ne ho avuto ben 17!!! Purtroppo sull'Everest non c'è adblue, tanto meno le colonnine di ricarica per le macchine elettriche, sempre che queste riescano almeno ad avvicinarsi (da molto lontano)!
Happy with my 1958 no hybrid, less tech and proved diesel motor
Is this an American model?
@ it's the basic model in Costa Rica
Up until the current release I certainly was not a hater. In fact I'm still not a so-called hater. However, just observing what Toyota has offered and seeing actual reports from new owners. I am dissapointed. I simply look at the huge jump in price and see this vehicle as a very poor option. I bought a new Pajero 3.2 Diesel Manual in 2010, this was the car I had plans of apossible replacement. It is still in excellent, I was just contemplating a change.
Toyota = Charge as much as we can and give the least possible. The cult following will que up for their offering! (I see nothing wrong with a cult following, it usuall means that it is well deserved and that the product is very good.)
Pre-Historic engine! I was actually looking forward to the arrival. I was expecting possibly a high tech V6 Diesel, good towing capacity. Plenty of traditional room to fit all camping kit. (Not a stupid battery) What did we get? Reduced fule capacity and Add Blue!
I just don't get the battery? ....
I like the looks. V6, no hybrid and back to the good sized fuel capacity and a sensibly priced package. I'm in.
Too many engine issues now. Oil failure 00! Australian outback is very hot. Add a load and the recomended oil doesn.t cope so it seems?
How would you know of the Crook dealers would put the grade oil that the experts are recomending to solve the Toyota issue? Knowing Toyota, the their recomended oil will destroy the engine. However, of you replace it with a better suited, it would destroy your warranty? It's a time-bomb anyway I look at it?
Leg room less in the 250 than the 150 series.
Oof! Didn’t know that!!
Umm. Front or second row ?
Went to my local toyota dealer here in Perth, checked an Altitude,,boring interior, black black and more black,no enhancement,s like the 150,series, lack of options,,just straight disappointing, I have 2021 Kakadu,,won't be trading after checking the 250,,,,great style,just very very disappointing interior
I got the Landcruiser 1958 hybrid for the north American market. 1500 klm and all good. Just some tiny metallic noise from the left side door, the dealer will take a look and fix it. Otherwise, it's buttery smooth. You will never find a perfect car or women :)
Truth. Good to hear you are enjoying your vehicle. These videos aren’t meant to bring down anyone about their vehicle purchase but to inform potential buyers (like myself) of the capability of the vehicle. My FJ is useless according to my specs table but I still love it haha
@NorthOz Yes :) when you many many many miles in a solid truck you kinda start to be enamored with it and it's little imperfections:)
Do you want the truth...? I finally found a true four-wheel drive vehicle that I enjoy in the city...and on desert roads
My 150 series which I bought brand new 2 years ago has dpf and adblue. No issues with it so far. The tank holds 14 Letres of adblue. It is in the engine bay. There is a white tank with a blue screw cap, just undo that and top up the adblue once every 6000k or so. The car tells you when it needs adblue, and you can always see how much is in the tank. Anyone who has a 150 series Prado must have adblue in it.
The 250 having a smaller fuel tank has nothing to do with adblue. The adblue tank is only small, so hardly going to make any difference.
One thing I know I am not going to swap my 150 series for the 250. Too much plastic on the 250 and mine has absolutely everything the 250 series has. Would be absolutely no point, just a waste of money. And as mine is modded I would be actually downgrading if I bought the 250.
Another point the 250 weighs more than the 150 but has exactly the same power, so the 250 is actually a little slower than the 150, it is also less economical.
The 150s in Australia do not have AdBlue. DPF yes. But def no AdBlue (Oct 2023 Prado 150)
@swagging_sisters I see. Interesting, not sure why, must be a country thing.
All good points but as mentioned our 2022 prado doesn’t have Adblue. Like you mentioned, it would be a downgrade to get the 250 from what we can see. Heavier with more hassles. Not sure if I have the patience for all that safety tech and adding another job to my servicing (adblue even though it’s easy it’s still another thing to do). Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Keen to see what you think of upcoming videos
No Prado ever sold in Australia had adblue.
@@Car-crazy good place for adblue. I see so many inner city types or even just absent minded putting adblue into diesel tank. It will happen. Better to place the adblue on the other side or in the engine well.
Rule of thumb, never buy the first generation until the bugs are ironed out. Personally, there’s not a new vehicle on the Market I’d spend my money on regardless of brand. Toyota is to expensive and have lost the plot and definitely not the vehicle they use to be , BMW also went the same way. I’ll keep my 11 year old PRE DPF DMAX, no where near perfect, can be a slug at times but never had an issue. Manufactures are now making cars more complex ( emissions, safety, basically stuff you don’t need ). Also I believe people expectations of these vehicles is asking to much. They are basically work horses, they are based on the work horse. More fruit = more weight. I believe you want luxury buy a SUV or car, want to travel, tow head off-road, buy a base model. Remember we old folk have traveled this country quite successfully in the past with out all the gimmicks people now expect.
Hello Australia absolutely don’t buy a LC250 I did buy the FE here in the Uk and rejected it after 10 days I wanted it for Towing it had the OEM tow bar and Electrics BUT the car did not recognise its own electrics etc Toyota told me I must DISABLE SOME FUNCTIONS for Towing BUT will not state which ones !! The manual tells you to DISABLE 9 Safety functions!! For towing
Rear brakes squealing really bad and getting worse and I Paid £80k in the UK
I would not put 3.5 Ton behind this vehicle it’s dangerous.
Dave in the UK
Try a Shogun? Pajero in Australia
Adblu is for NOX emmisions. This gives it Euro 6d compliant.
The 250 is slower than the 150kw 150 series.
Also heavier than the 150 too!
Dud of the year
Value wise, better off getting a Y62 Patrol
Similar money. Makes sense
Toyota are no longer quality customer service is terrible wouldn't buy a Toyota ever again
Different turbo
I’m in the UK and have a 150 MY22. Adblue - is to neutralise NOx and DPF is to remove particulates which cause respiratory problems. Just got back from a trip to Morocco with just over 1200 miles off-road sand/gravel/rock and 600 miles tarmac. Used 10litres of Adblue from start to finish which is about the capacity of the tank. Another 2000 on highway going through Spain and UK and used about the same. I don’t see Adblue as any more inconvenient than windscreen washer fluid but I would recommend getting one of those collapsible funnels because when you spill it,it makes a mess.
DPF regeneration about every 150 miles but doesn’t need to be run at speed for regeneration to be initiated. There is also a manual regeneration option which I think is as a result of the Australian class action. Overall I don’t see DPF or Adblue as too much of an issue. That said, had there been an option for a petrol engine I would probably have gone down that route for other reasons.
It’s a major issue as the car will cease to function if you run out of adblue. The windscreen running out of water is less worrisome.
@@Murrayhewitt1967Fair point. I guess I’ve just treated it as I would fuel and other fluids. I did carry 5 litres with me but never used it but I also carry transmission oil, engine oil, air filters and coolant so agree that you have to watch the gauge. Key thing is availability in the area you are travelling in I guess.
i dont get the whinging?... the prado is a shopping trolley for taking the kids to school..... if you want to tow 3.5T buy something that does it, dont whinge that the prado doesnt.
You let yourself down with this video. It's mainly regurgitation of a handful of online posts (including one from South Africa with very little relevance to Australia) and your experience of a single test drive. Of course there will be teething issues with a newly released vehicle and not everyone will like it and there will always be pre-order cancellations.
Overall a poorly researched and delivered video - you can better (as you have in the past).
You just whingin over Lil things not the overall Positivity.....!!.... It's still a good vehicle......
so everything about this vehicle is negative? Nothing positive about it ? Is anybody buying it still? If this is true then Toyota will be bankrupt soon
Toyota marketing hugely to the you tuber caravan fraternity
Get a 200 series
Absolutely
All new vehicles are made in different countries.
After 2016, you are wasting your time.
Landcruiser 300 engines are blowing up, like ford Rangers
Seems like the older Toyotas are the way to go
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Some of the new 250 owners are under the impression that it's a lite 300 series and it's only a matter of buying 300 parts and bolt them on for and up grade
Yes very true. I saw a video tonight of someone saying that it’s basically a 300 series. I’d say that’s like saying a prado 150 is like a 200 series. Different vehicles with different specs and very different capabilities
over rated ,under equipped ,overpriced , tiny engine ...and not to mention the looks !! omg stick a GWM badge on it already and be done with it .
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The car is a dud. Everything toyota produces is a dud. Cheap interiors, boring looking cars. All recycle designs
250 is a Down Grade !! Pass
who are these people that buy these shitboxes????
just get a 70 series gxl
Already have one but looking for something comfortable for my parents to drive and tow 👍
I always thought the older 150 Prado was ugly and ungainly to look at, but was truly well thought out inside and as a tourer. Then the pictures of the 250 appear it looks the part finally. Sadly, the interior is a down grade and the adas is next level horrible. This will not sell well with the fanboys. Too complex, too expensive, too many beeps and bongs. Not enough range and a small boot. Pass.
Yesterday I drove a prado 250. I am surprised with plastic steering wheel and low quality plastic kind of dashboard. My kluger 2023 feels more superior than this 15 K more prado. Big disappointed 🤦♂️🤦♂️
My hilux even had a leather steering wheel. Not good. Thanks for watching and commenting