To OLED or Not to OLED: Gaming Monitor Pros and Cons
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- To OLED or Not to OLED: Gaming Monitor Pros and Cons Ft. LG UltraGear 45GR95QE
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Many thanks to LG for providing the UltraGear 45GR95QE 45” 240Hz OLED Monitor seen in this video. For more info, visit the LG Product Page:
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► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:42 Unboxing / Overview: LG 45GR95QE 45” 240Hz OLED Monitor
3:44 Key Gaming Features in this Gaming Monitor
4:35 Additional Features / Accessories for the LG 45GR95QE
5:35 OLED TVs vs OLED Gaming Monitors
6:23 OLED Pros: Best Viewing Angles, Light and Flexible, No Backlight
8:48 OLED Pros: Response Time, Eye Strain (Blue Light)
10:09 OLED Cons: Burn-In Risks
12:08 OLED Burn-In Prevention Techniques
14:33 OLED Cons: Sub-pixel Layout and Text Fringing
16:49 OLED Cons: So-so Peak Brightness and High Prices
18:54 Closing Thoughts
► LINKS
LG UltraGear 45GR95QE 45” 240Hz OLED Monitor Product Page - www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-45g...
Other, less expensive, non-OLED Monitors
27", 2560x1440, 144Hz-170Hz, VRR / FreeSync and GSYNC support, IPS or VA Panel for $200-$300
HP X27q (2021) - geni.us/BUeaG3b
LG Ultragear 27GL83A-B - geni.us/Fydfvm
Gigabyte M27Q-P - geni.us/KtavAA
Ultrawide Option
$430 - GIGABYTE M34WQ 34" 144Hz Ultrawide - geni.us/PoG4KEB
- References -
The Tech Chap - LG 45GR95QE Review: • LG 45" OLED 240Hz Gami...
OLED Pros and Cons - MakeUseOf: www.makeuseof.com/buy-oled-tv...
What is OLED - www.cabletv.com/blog/what-is-...
LG’s page about OLED Burn-In: www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/...
RTings Long-Term OLED burn-in Tests:
www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longe...
www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-...
• Our Biggest Test Yet: ...
OLED Burn In prevention: www.whathifi.com/advice/oled-...
PCWorld Article on Sub-pixel Layouts: www.pcworld.com/article/63172...
8K Ultrawide Video by Ronald Soethje - • Norway - The colours o...
Forza Horizon Ultrawide Video by Lucky Luuk - • Forza Horizon 4 21:9 U...
LG ultrawide Test Video - • [21:9] LG OLED 2021 Ul...
• [21:9] THX Genesis Ult...
SoSoTech - Pixel Orbiting Explained: • Pixel Orbiting Explain...
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I've been gaming on an LG C8 OLED for a bit over 4 years now I think it is. I've had the pixel shift on the whole time. I've had no burn-in at all. No problems gaming on it. It's been amazing and I couldn't go back to a non-OLED display.
Awesome, fingers crossed my C1 last a long time still get shocked by how good it can look. I use comfort mode pixel shift etc. and very conservative settings trying to stretch its lifespan
my lg c1 already had 3 image refresh cycles, which means it has had more than 6000 hours total panel use. still pristine. i'm not worried anymore and have not been for a while.
as long as you're not overly careless, you'll be fine.
I got over 7000 hours on my CX as a monitor, no burn in. And even if it did, it was worth it because it's amazing. I'm staring at this thing for about 30% of my life, it better be good. Why waste my life away with ugly IPS bleed.
C9 club here... again, if this one doesn't break, I won't ever go back to the old inferior LCD tech.
I have the alienware qd - oled 34 inch. It's amazing. The dark scenes are very detailed and true to life. It's still super dark, but you can see in detail. For example if it's super dark in game and someone in front of you has a flashlight, it's like a new sensation, it looks real in a way. Can't explain it. But it's worth it
Same here it’s a great monitor. The LG would be serious contender if it wasn’t for that 1080p pixel density 😂 can’t believe they thought 80 PPI for top of range was a good idea
I hope AW does a 27 inch 16:9 qd oled
I tried ultrawide and it was nothing for me and im not willing to pay 1100€ for an lg oled monitor which has no warranty for burn in
I bought the same back end of last year when there was a discount near Christmas. Not having to deal with backlight bleed makes dark scenes amazing, let along with HDR. Its a hard thing to explain, it has to be seen to really know the difference. The motion clarity is amazing on OLED too and for me at least the UW aspect is great. Works fantastic with the PS5 as well since they brought in 1440p support. Zero regrets from me
QLED isn't OLED
@@MrPhatties Wow... salt isn't pepper.. apples are not oranges... anyone else wanna join in... black isn't white.. Paul isn't Kyle.
Very glad to see this video. I've been interested in OLED monitors, but wasn't too familiar with pros/cons. Great video, as always.
PAUL, Thank you for this! You are the only reviewer who seems willing to discuss the subpixel layout con, it was literally giving me headaches and I had to return the display.
Thank God for OLED finally coming into the monitor space! I've had the tech on my phones for so long and once you've gone that way with your TV, you'll Never want to go back. Again, Super excited for this and I've never had any issues with burn in case anyone was wondering. OLED FTW ALL THE WAY 💯
In my experience having owned both the AW34 and UG 27 OLED, it's game changing. The way colors pop and the deepness of black levels made me want to replay all my favorite games to experience them with it. The only monitor I've used that comes close to the picture quality was my old 27gl850. The quantum dot layer helped colors stand out it came close, but not quite.
Hi I'm also looking at the 27 inch LG OLED, is the anti glare coating same as on the gl850?
I have this monitor just got it like a week or two ago and it looks wildddd
I have the LG 27GL850, but it doesn't have a Quantum Dot layer, it has Nano IPS. Still, it's an excellent monitor, indeed.
Im getting an oled monitor today as well, cant wait to replay all my games this time in perfect black levels! Control ps5 and the resident evils are gonna be crazy amazing!
Been gaming on a LG C1 48" for a little over a year. Absolutely perfect gaming display. Picked it up at MicroCenter as a refurb. Was significantly cheaper than premium monitors at the time and better feature list. Perfect blacks, great color, 120hz and GSync support. Couldn't pass it up. Ended up doing a major rig upgrade because of the display
How is the 48" working for you? thinking about picking one up
I happy to hear the OLed still going strong, but FYI I would never buy a refurb Oled. Like ever.
I’ve been using OLED for console gaming for the past 3 years and it has been great. I had an LG 55 C9 and a couple of years ago got a 65 C1. The overall image quality, contrast, and pixel response is second to none. I’d love to have OLED for my PC setup so I can have the same benefits but with a lot more power to throw at games.
I almost bought this monitor, was waiting for it for months but the low ppi and overly aggro curve eventually convinced me to get the AW DWF for like half price. My next will be a 45" but at least 1600p of not better.
Pulled the trigger for a C2 recently, absolutely no regrets so far, the picture quality improvement over my older VA is incredible. Great overview of the pros and cons of the tech.
Make sure you turn the TV off with the remote and leave it powered on (in standby mode) to avoid that annoying popup about doing a pixel clean. I also have Pixel Shift enabled and I don't notice it.
Burn in
I can recommend ColorControl for Windows. Pretty useful tool to change settings, you can turn off the auto dimming for example. I think you can even use different settings for different programs.
@@donkeysunited It's def not a bad thing. I left a bright dialogue open all day and didn't think of it and noticed a burn in. Did the pixel clean and it was completely gone :)
Once you experience OLED, any LCD instantly turns into garbage.
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I bought this beast yesterday and love it! Colors really pop and very very fluid
I got the 48" LG CX in Aug of 2020 and have managed to put 18495 hours to-date on it as both monitor and TV. It still looks as good as the day I bought it with no burn-in or issues. I took as few precautions like no desktop icons, an auto hide taskbar, and screen timeout, but once you get used to them they're really not concessions. Don't know how much of that was actually necessary, but 18K hours and counting without a bit of trouble has been worth it. 4K/OLED is the best upgrade I ever made to my gaming setup. Once you go OLED you'll never want anything else.
got damn thats alotta hours 😂 where does it tell you the hours?
@@aidansedore5182 hold the settings button down to go to the full settings menu - then select "Support" - "TV Information" and "Total Power On Time" will be listed in "hours". This is where it is on a CX model at least. My friend has a C1 or C2 model with the grey menu screens versus the white text on black background like on the CX and the location is a little different. Seven months later and the count is now 23,223 hours...
I would have loved an OLED but I spend WAY to much time with "static" images on-screen. Snagged a nano-IPS 38 inch Alienware instead after much deliberation and I'm happy with it.
Have been using a lg 48 c1 for close to 2 years now. No burn ins at all, i cant go away from a glossy oled panels anymore it looks so much better. Currently got it setup as 3840x1620 in 21.9 aspect with hdr 120hz ans gsync all working
I've been gaming on the Samsung Oled g8 and it is an absolute game changer between the 175hz refresh rate and the picture quality of the OLED display. I was going to return it and wait for the OLED g9 because I have a 49' AOC ULTRAWIDE, but honestly this monitor seems to be a nice sweet spot.
Great video I have been using the LG oled for gaming and desktop working for the past six years. My current LG cx for nearly 3 years. I’ve had zero issue since as Paul shows LG has the best mitigation system.
One tip. Set the OLED brightness lower than max.. this alone will also prevent most all issues because this is what drives retention. Max oled brightness drives the leds.. at their max. Lowering this just by 10 is not noticeable but helps a lot.
I have always had my 55C7 at 10% OLED brightness with 18,309 hrs on it currently. There is slight burn in if screen is a solid yellow but unnoticeable with normal use as a monitor or watching full screen video.
Yep, I have my LG C1 set at 35% pixel brightness in SDR mode. I only use 100% in HDR mode which I rarely use. It's easily the best PC monitor I've ever owned.
Ive used a 65" LG CX OLED as a PC gaming monitor for over 2 years and 3k hours, zero signs of burn in, I even use it for competitive FPS games like valiant and CSGO and i don't feel like I'm at any competitive disadvantage compare to my old 27" 144hz gaming monitor. For single player games its absolutely spectacular, best gaming/PC related purchase I've ever made
Pro gamers think you have to be 2 inches from your screen to be competitive and I swear they're more dogmatic than baseball players. It's all about the distance to screen ratio. 32 inches was a little uncomfortable until I found the right distance and then it felt perfect
Just picked up a 42” c2 for gaming and work (software engineer) - it’s downright amazing. Games never felt so immersive.
gaming on a LG C2 as my gaming monitor, and I'm never going back! This has done more to me than any other gaming related device ever, it such a blast!
I'll be definitely getting OLED panel in (hopefully) near future, I'm just waiting for the 2nd gen QD OLED from Samsung to hit the market.
make sure you get it with a warrenty. samsungs have awful quality control
My local Best Buy just put this up on display, and most stores should have it up this week. Not gonna lie, my first impression of this LG monitor was "wow, thats dim, lemme turn up the brightness" and found it was already at 100 out the box. Also, the matte coating is aggressive, so if you're used to OLED from TVs you won't like the duller image this has. It's actually not an unwieldy size for a desk monitor though, and has a nice design, but IMO, I'm just going to get a 32" miniLED display, like that Innocn one that's $900 or $800 on sale, when back in stock. 4K, 144, 1152 zone FALD, HDR1000 and well over 500 nits 100% full field in SDR, so I can adjust it to my preference. Innocon 32M2V for those curious.
I bought a 65" C2 last month and it has made me a true believer in OLED.
been on a lg c1 for over year and absolutely no regrets
I'm happy with my 48" LG C2. Got it from Costco on Black Friday week for $1050 but its new price is now $950ish. Everything looks amazing. Main difference between my TV and this Paul's monitor is the refresh rate, 120 vs 240 but i'm still very happy
more pixels, and you can just do a custom resolution to get the ultra wide look.
a pro of LG C2 is that it's 4K while this LG is 1440p. i'm not paying over €1600+ for 1440p.
Holy smokes, that's a beautiful display! I got the aw3423dw when it released. My first oled and hdr gaming experience, and it has been incredible. Personally, I find no upgrading experience more fulfilling than moving to a higher resolution/ superior picture quality that (ideally) comes with a new display.
If your system supports it, this is the way .
I want that monitor so bad. Its technically not OLED its actually better than OLED, its QD-OLED which works a little differently. You don't even have to worry about burn in either becuase its like non existant with QD-OLED!
If you can see that it is a beautiful display, then that is your own display displaying that display.
@@jakewynnThis aged like milk. Samsung's QD-OLED burns in even faster than LG's WOLED
@@ij6708 well that's due to the firmware being early release. LG are pushing the same OLED panels to the limit via software. Samsung are innovating. It's only a matter of time before they become very burn in resistant as in theory the QDOLED panels themselves should be better at resisting burn in, they just need the software to accompany it.
Going from the old Asus xg35vq ultrawide with a VA panel to the Samsung G8 QD-oled ultrawide was completely night and day. Factory calibrated.. absolutely perfect for gaming, movies, everyday use and color sensitive work like photo editing.
I bought a LG OLED55CS6LA and it's fantastic. 120hz is more than enough for me and the type of games I play. I've had it for 3 months now and it's one of the best purchases I made next to my 3080ti.
I've been looking at the lg c2 or g2. This video is very helpful
I spent $900 on a new monitor back in 2021 and now I'm wishing I had waited. These new oleds look amazing and I'd love to try one. I guess by the time I'm ready to replace my current monitor, another new fancy tech will be taking over and these will be old news!
Been using my Xeneon for 2 weeks now, its simply amazing
Owner of an LG C2 42” here, and im very happy with it, looks amazing, is big enough to do console gaming but not that big to not be used as a PC monitor, so i use it for both PS5 and Series X and a 3090 PC
Monitor-wise the best thing I've done in recent years was to buy some nice mid-tier (nothing fancy) IPS curved monitors for daily use and working from home, with an LG C2 OLED connected but off until I want to game. The fact they sell a 42" and 48" version makes them perfect for gaming if you're short on space, and unless you're playing sweaty competitive CS:GO or Warzone, for any other game the panel is amazing!
I recently played Subnautica on the C2 55" version in a dark room...it blew my mind and made me cr*p my pants!!
I've had an oled panel before (monitor I bought around 2 years ago) and had pixel shift on and I got burn in on my task bar area. I was really disappointed because I was told that pixel shift tech almost completely eliminates the possibility of burn-in.
Now that LED TVs and monitors are being constructed with a plethora amount of local dimming zones, it's starting to get closer and closer to OLED quality contrast while continuing to excessively out perform OLEDs in terms of peak brightness (which is a huge crutch with most OLED panels) which is a MAJOR factor in getting amazing HDR performance. My tv has so many local dimming zones that unless you go to the extreme sides of its viewing angle, you cannot tell where the local dimming zones are unless you have literally a black background and like, a ball of light going across the screen.
I bought the LG C2 Series 42-Inch Class OLED evo at the end of 2022. List was $1200 but on sale for $825. I saw them just around $800 in January 2023. Now the end of February and back around $1000. I'm using it mainly as a monitor for my PC and Xbox (4K @ 60-120hz).
I thought the 42" would be to large but it's fine about 7 feet away. Absolutely fantastic picture. You have to use one for awhile to appreciate what you were missing. Love it.
I purchased the LG 43-Inch Class UQ9000 Series Alexa Built-in 4K Smart TV for the bedroom. Not OLED but the picture is very close and on $350. 4K @ 60hz though. Very nice for the price.
Thank you so much for this comparison! Very informative. 5/5!
I've bought the LG G2 55" tv last year, and it's fantastic. PC, 4K movies, PS5, all looks beautiful, I've not had any issues of any kind. Despite many reviewers on the web praising QD-OLED by Samsung and Sony, after visiting a store to compare them in the real world the LG really stood out for me and my choice was made much less difficult. My only complaint would be the number of HDMI ports (4) but that is something of a complaint about all TVs now. I bought a decent HDMI splitter which solved that problem, and I'm looking into getting a new AV receiver somewhere this year which has a HDMI splitter built in and can extract the best possible audio from the source. Possibly the Marantz Cinema 50. My PC will still be plugged into the TV via HDMI directly to keep the lowest latency possible, and audio through SPDIF to my amp works really well so I'm sticking with that setup. NVidia doesn't like the splitter, causing desktop resolution changes, very annoying. Hope all my research into video/gaming/audio can help someone on their way to a new setup!
if youd liuke to try atmos which has over 11 speakers including overhead speakers id try using the hdmi to the receiver and the dp to the monitor , youd need an adaptor, hdmi to dp cable
@@mainsource8030 Using the GPU's HDMI out for audio only, and a second connection from the GPU, DP to HDMI adaptor, connected to the TV, if I interpreted correctly. Good advise, hadn't thought of that! Maybe a future experiment once I have a new amp. Cheers!
@@rafenwulf optical is bandwidth limited to no more than 5.1 whereas hdmi can deliver fully uncompressed 7.1 or dolby/dts HD, as well as dolby atmos. its rare in the pc gaming field due to the headphone craze but if you own a house without neighbors to annoy, having a 7.2.4 atmos setup is 2nd to none! (7 surround, 2 subs, 4 height speakers). your gpu can do this with zero drawback as the encoding is done by the receiver. i now use the onboard video to output the audio , if your cpu has onboard video you can do this. most games today support atmos to.
@@mainsource8030 True, optical has a limit compared to HDMI audio. For gaming 5.1 is totally enough for me. But an upgrade option for PC would be cool, just hadn't thought of using a DP to HDMI adaptor. An amplifier handling the HDMI switching and audio extraction instead of a separate HDMI splitter, apart from better audio, helps with cable clutter and extra steps in the switching. I bought the splitter mainly for the PS5, which does not have an SPDIF out, only HDMI, the splitter has SPDIF out and allows me to have 5.1 sound from my amp. Bit of a workaround, but it works! But an upgrade for PC audio is now an option as well, thanks for the tip 👍
@@rafenwulf anytime! i had to use a dedicated audio extractor for my ps5 as well
I've had a CX48 for a couple of years now. It's holding up, no burn in yet. I do use it in a dim-ish office and I don't keep HDR on unless I'm actively using it. As others have said, I'm still shocked at how good it looks every time I sit down in front of it. If I was going to buy again right this second, it would be a much harder decision between this and a Samsung QD with no burn in HOWEVER... LG has been INCREDIBLE with their firmware updates related to PC use on their CX series TVs, and also the C1 etc... if they keep this up, I will stick with them because I have never seen so many firmware updates improving and adding features with any TV or monitor I've ever owned. It has been incredible.
Ah it's nice to hear that classic banger again at around the 1:46 mark, long time viewers remember it, I don't know what song it is other than watching your videos honestly
I bought an Alienware 34" OLED back in Aug 2022. This monitor is beautiful, highly colour accurate, faster refresh and is 3440x1440. I have it paired with an i9 12900K and 12 GB 3080. One of the best monitors I've ever used. IMO this 34 is almost too big for a desk, let alone going to a 40+. One thing I wish is that more streaming services supported 21:9 aspect.
The worst is when you find a video that's presented in 16:9 but they've added black bars to make it look all cinematic and 21:9 but with the ultrawide monitor you end up with this black frame around a small video.
Look up the extension UltraWideo and it'll put your content in 21:9
I just got the rog swift pg42uq and I’m so impressed with everything about it
Decent review Paul, I have a 55" LG 1080p Tv which I snapped up at £900 over 7 years ago, and its amazing. It is still amazing, no burn in, no issues with how bright it is, the sun comes through the window in our living room in the morning and my TV is still clear to see. I think people just need to embrace OLED.
looks good panel quality/view angles on par with the aoc, but yeah its a tv should test it w console/fhd movies
Getting my first OLED (LG C1) was like getting my first high-refresh rate display -- which is to say that, for me, there's simply no going back. I just cannot deal with IPS glow and backlight bleed anymore.
You won’t be disappointed/ first thing to do is lookup a video of settings to change. Most importantly turn off energy saving and up the brightness. They turn that low and turn down brightness to meet government energy efficient standardards
I recently upgraded my primary display to the new Alienware ultrawide OLED and I'm just telling you guys.......there's no going back. Ever. The gaming experience is glorious, but if you work with ANY timeline based software (like a DAW or video editing app), the extra width is glorious. Color accuracy is superb as well. The ultrawide ratios are much more similar to our real-life field of vision, and once you get acclimated to using it, all other monitors just look kinda meh. I thought I had made some big upgrades to my rig in the past, but this one easily had the most impact. If you get one that is the same height as your previous monitors, you can easily make a dual-screen setup workable and look nice. You don't have to go "one screen only" just because it's ultrawide. You just need a little extra desk space.
Bought a C2, couldnt stand the absolutely terrible screen uniformity of OLED on a white background, sent it back, got a sony display and had the same thing.
Looked at the alienware at microcenter, same thing.
White on my current display is white 100% at any point of the screen, not shades of pink and blue when looking off angle.
The "you are never going back" statements are tired at this point.
One of my concerns with these extreme wide angle screens, is that you waste a lot of electricity to power this whole display, when only causually browsing the web/watching YT vidoes.
I really like my current 2x 27" setup, where I can turn off one of them, whenever i am not working.
Of course the downside of having 2 monitors is that you cannot play games with them both without having a black bar in the middle.
I own the Alienware and although in a lot of ways it’s was a bit underwhelming because coming from a 4K 60 text and many things were not as good. And I don’t play FPS so even the high refresh rate with my current graphics card was overhyped. Working in Premiere has been amazing. I use my other monitor as a big video playback/source monitor now.
3440x1440 since 2017 and I could never go back to 16:9
Very informative, thank you!🤩
I have 2 OLED , ALienware QD-OLED AW3423DW monitor and LG C1 OLED TV 55 and I cant say I regret a single thing buying them . Both are awesome , sometimes I game on the LG TV specialy games that are more console orientated and it is a great expirence .
QD Oled is the way to go. I just wait it a bit out for some improvements in the pixel structure. Maybe Samsung manages to implement the QD Subpixel structure in the regular RGB structure instead of the triangular way which causes color fringing.
27Inch WQHD a Dream!
After experiencing the LG C2, I realized the true potential in oled and have now pre ordered the LG oled 240hz monitor. True HDR support and colour accuracy and high performance (0.03ms response times) sounds too good to pass up on.
Why not wait for a proper Glossy OLED panel ?
@@Sebbz
Monitors Unboxed does a really good review of the upcoming LG 27GR95QE-B
The matte finish isn't too noticeable especially in a dark room.
Peak brightness isn't anything amazing and the sub pixel layout makes reading text difficult. It is strictly a gaming monitor.
Had it returned it it’s way to dim no matter how bright you try to make it . And I play in a completely blacked out room .
youd really have to be into competitive gaming to get one of those instead of a 42-55" 4k
@@bigturkey1 yah i play games that have ranked play, for me the 240hz and ultra fast response time is ideal for it. Its a major bonus having hdr support aswell
Thank you Paul, You Rock.
The test that Rtings did with the six panel displays still holds true today. I haven’t got burn in since I bought my LG CX and have close to UTT 15k hours plus with varied content mostly gaming actually. 😁
I think roll-able screen technology would be a great feature to help resolve OLED burn-in issues. Instead of using the tech to roll the screen up, the tech could be used to "side-scroll" the panel back and forth slowly ensuring that the pixels are moving without actually visibly seeing them move from your perspective.
Some phone company showed something similar to that when showing off their folding screen tech. It had sides that you could pull and extend the display and when you pushed back in the screen rolled back inside. Tech is going places and I’m glad we’re not stagnating
Isn’t that just what pixel shift is? Which is already a software feather
Feature*
I just got the Alienware AW3423DWF and the panel is amazing. One thing that has been kind of annoying is windows implementation of HDR. For some reason trying to get the settings right in the few games I have started up has been a mixed bag. Trying to get Resident evil village working right was a goat rodeo and its still not really right. Hopefully will have a smoother experience with other games!
If you're not on Windows 11 you should because the HDR works much more flawlessly than on 10.
@@AbuN4z1r I'll have to give it a go.
Do you have any white noise? I had 4 and all had coil whine..enoying.
I have been using a CX55 oled for years now purely for gaming on PC and after years of non stop use I have zero burn in. I dont use any burn in tech. I turn it all off. Zero burn in. My sim rig i use a C1 55 inch oled and also zero burn in. Use the same car with the same tacko in the same position and zero burn in. What I do see is amazing blacks, popping colours and absolute bliss.
I've had a 1080p 144hz VA panel for years. Going to upgrade to the 27GR95QE when its released here in Australia
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Even though it is WAAAY out of my price range, it's great to see the technology advancing. It really does look like a great bit of kit.
$1,700 *yikes*
y know the right tune actually a little reddish from majority of leds, oops
Had a 4k OLED TV since 2018. I was able to get from Massdrop(now known as Drop) a 2017 model for like 1700 with free shipping and no sales tax. Been loving it ever since. Now I have moved up on my PC gaming resolution from 1440p to 4k on a LG c2 42". Much better gaming IMO. The basement TV I would like to get a 4k OLED since the PS5 is hooked up to that. The OLED experience is leaps and bounds better than the LCD TV.
I got a Corsair Flex and I never realized how happy I was to have the stand attached and was just very easy to setup.
I’ve got a newer IPS and the colors are quite nice to my eyes, more importantly though it was a lot cheaper. Definitely glad that they’re ironing out all the kinks, but personally I think I’m going to wait another generation or so for prices to come down a bit. Response times and brightness are unmatched, almost all the led backlight displays I see struggle with one, the other, or both.
But lcd displays are brighter
@@user-wm1tb7ji5t TVs are for sure but near as I can tell most non-700$+ monitors are pretty dim in comparison to OLEDs. Specifically OLEDs seem to hit the higher HDR specs easier, but maybe that's just cause they can afford to with their price tags
@@jackconrad4814 no, biggest con of oled is lower brightness, its not bad if you can block light from outside, but thing is that ips tech is brighter as whole even on monitors, but oled still offers better hdr because that every pixel is lit
I think you are helping people have a more pleasant experience rather than better gaming experience. Anything could be better but not always the best. You are the Goldilocks of all tech UA-camrs. Not over the top and trying to stay relevant, not as dull as your mom's personality, but just right like a good drink after work, whatever it may be.
sick effect with the image retention bit... awesome... 5 stars for that one.. :)
I have 3 oleds and all of them are fine. 2 are used heavily for gaming. Going from a normal non hdr va panel I’d class the upgrade in a similar tier as 30 to 60 fps. Won’t ever go back.
1440x3440 at 45 inch might run into pixel density issues since you need to be close at 800r for the curved effect to work well.
After ruining my first OLED, a 2017 LG TV, with horrific burn-in less than 2 years after purchase, I'm very leery about using one for my PC monitor. I ran the pixel refresher and screen shift utilities as recommended, too. Of course, the tech has improved and I'm much more educated on the care and feeding of OLED. I'm a lot more interested in miniLED for my next monitor. Love your channel and great seeing you and the Tech Chap together!
im am extremely excited for all the oled and qd-oled tech coming this year. i just wish it was in more 32-34 inch options. seems like people are either going 24-27 or 40+. im sure a lot of that has to do how panels are opitmaly cut...but it stinks. i find the former too small and latter too large. 32-34 is the sweet spot for my desk/viewing situation
55" 4k is a good size for pc monitor
@@bigturkey1 waaaaaay to big lol
@@bigturkey1that's extremely subjective haha
I've been rocking a 48" C1 for almost 2 years. It's still just as immaculate as the day I set it up, no burn in whatsoever.
That was a very good tip on using the polystyrene packing to support the monitor while attaching the stand.
I went from an OLED to a mini LED recently. It's so nice to not have to worry at all about burn in. And I'd notice the pixel shift, and the ABL bugs were obnoxious, and the 150 nits at full brightness were pathetic.
Last year I got the lg c2 oled tv, used it as pc monitor. Had to switch back to my ips monitors for a couple of weeks and it was brutal. It’s true what they say, once you go oled you can’t go back
I'm so glad I've been conditioned from using low ppi huge monitors to not notice blurry text because I don't notice the fringing on this qd-oled I just got at all.
Nice video and explanation. I love my alienware oled monitor and if you got the money, it is worth it. Another thing... Its very dificult to go back to other type of monitors/tvs after using OLED or mini LED.
Burn-in images in OLED displays are still a big issue for those who play games with some sort of static HUD elements, which are quite common for RPGs and RTSGs, though.
I'd get an OLED, but at the moment, I am happy with my IPS monitors. I'd like to see them in smaller configurations with hopefully smaller price tags.
Thanks for the great video Paul.
happy with mine, not sure which but its realistic and thats the goal, think this samsung tv isnt retail either
basically nothing is retail version except prob ram and ssds, so might want to look elsewhere
You'll be happy until you experience a QD-OLED.
love the size, waiting for 4k
Had a 48 inch oled "monitor" for a few years now. No issues and it looks amazing (but I also have a huge desk).
Just got an ultrawide OLED and it looks amazing. That being said my next monitor will be miniLED. It looks almost as good and while I am enjoying my monitor immensely I have this constant worry in the back of my head about burn in. Before people claim that it isn't that much of an issue rememeber that another UA-camr did a video on their new OLED screen and then two months later another video on the burn in problem it had.
What some people don't get is that Burn In depends on panel lottery. You may get one that lasts for years, but you might also get one that last for 2 months.
@@ThePipojp Yet another reason to get a miniLED next time.
OLED 38in ultrawide or bust
Thanks for the video!
im ordering this monitor tom thank u for the video
I bought myself a Samsung Odyssey oled g8 g85sb
Compared to my previous monitor the Acer Predator X34P, I have no regrets.
I'm finally able to play my HDR games that have been sitting in my library for years now.
I think Micro/Mini-LED and then Nano-LED is the preferred future. Resell value for OLED will be like Plasma
Agreed. OLED in its current form as a monitor has too many negatives to take over long term. I think the nano-LEDs once released will be the best all rounder.
I'm not sure I agree. If they cannot reach the pixel responses times of OLED, then I don't think I'll be all that interested.
@@brendontaylor7545 I don’t see why pixel response wouldn’t be low enough to not notice. The instant response on oled is nice but imperceivable to low pixel response screens already out
@@brendontaylor7545eh, most high end monitors reach a point where its unnoticable.
Of course oled will always be faster, but its like comparing 500hz to 400hz, who is gonna notice the difference?
All the miniled nanoled ect... are probably the future, even now you have monitors that have contrast ratios close to oled and each generation the blooming effects gets fixed more.
Meanwhile oled burn in cant really be fixed, at least not in the close future.
Miniled is also cheaper now and is gonna get even cheaper, it has seen massive price drops.
Just my opinion though.
I honestly just need everyone’s Oled monitor options to come out. So you can get a little bit of competition going on to see who’s features would work best for me.
Been using a C9 as my monitor (in living room) since Jan 2020. I heavily game but also use it for tv/movies, youtube, reddit...etc. And have never had a burn in issue. If all you do is play one game, then you'll eventually get HUD burn in, but for the vast majority of users, it's a non issue.
OLED everything all the time! I've had my LG48C1 for about a year now and I haven't done much to prevent burn-in other than setting a screen saver (mystify is a good one for contrast). I also haven't been letting the TV do it's image cleaning since it basically degrades the entire screen to even out any hot spots. I haven't seen any ghosting or burn-in and I fully expect this TV to last long enough for 4K 120hz to be obsolete.
*THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LCD AND OLED SCREENS*
LCD aka. Liquid crystal screens work using one huge light source in the back and using a liquid crystal layer to bend the light into a red green or blue color which is sent through another layer (I think it’s called the rgb filter). The problem is it’s these is thet the huge light source in the back makes it impossible for a true black. There will always be light in each pixel
*OLED SCREENS*
But OLED screens use molecule scale reactions on each pixel to produce a current with three different reactors for the rgb values which can then be sent through an rgb filter. Which essentially makes each pixel its own screen. Which means if a pixel receives a code from a microprocessor to produce pure black it can just turn off. Producing no light!
*OLED PIXEL EMOJI MODEL:*
🪨= Metallic layer
🧽= “Hole” layer for eased passthrough
⚛️= reaction where light is produced
🪨🪨🪨
I can give you two reasons why OLED should be passed over: it’s a technology still in its infancy, and by the time it matures, it will be replaced by microLED. MiniLED will become the new baseline in the same way IPS panels have completely displaced TN.
Burn-in will always be a problem with OLED monitors. So I'm not buying one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've been using a C1 as my main display for about a year now and it's been fantastic. Wouldn't go back.
Great Video Paul.
For me, Mini LED is the way to go in the near future.
No risk of burn in, "better" pixel layout for Windows, good enough HDR performance
Ghosting is so bad. OLED is the way forward. What good is "contrast" if it glows?
I was thinking the same thing but even the higher end ones seem to have blooming issues and often cost more than an OLED.
@@dubyadubyaeee yeah oled is amazing with respone times and transisions but the ghosting of Mini LEDs is not worse than regular lcd monitors or tvs.
If one can live with the ghosting and blooming of regular monitors, one can sure as hell live with them on Mini LEDs. The blooming is way better with a certain amount of dimming zones
@@adamc6954 prices will go down. As oleds get cheaper and smaller, so will Mini LEDs.
I think, we will see more and more of them, with Mini LED as the standard and OLED in the high end.
@@marcelmathes You don’t know what miniLED or FALD is. Ghosting isn’t an issue on regular LCD only for miniLED and FALD. LCDs have uniform backlight, bad contrast but no ghosting. Get your facts right.
OLED i the best other than burn in, that’s a fact.
Pros: its OLED. Cons : Im still using a 1050 GPU.....so no money.
I have the GIGABYTE M34WQ 34. Its best feature is the KVM. Makes working from home nice.
I've been using an LG 48C1 for a year and a half already and still no burn-in. You just have to follow some oled care steps. Also use the LG companion app for auto shut down of the monitor when not in use.
There's one potential downside to OLED's that Paul didn't mention. Depending on the panel, they can have an issue of "crushing" blacks. Basically because all the pixels can turn completely off to make a pure black image, some panels will turn off the pixels when there is actually picture information there, thus losing dark parts of the image. This is most common in scenes with dark shadows, for example.
I’ve never heard of this but I’m intrigued by it.
Usually monitors just receive RGB values per pixel and just blast it out on the screen. OLED’s simply power down the pixel if each of the RGB channels are set to zero. I’m really curious about what you’re describing because that would essentially mean is that the RGB values for certain pixels is non-zero (not perfectly black), yet the monitor is powering down those pixels anyway. To me that sounds like a defect either in hardware (pixels not able to power back up quickly enough after being shut down) or software (using different RGB values than what was sent over through the DP or HDMI cable). How widespread is this issue, and is it specific to any particular brand or model?
@@benjaminlynch9958 It's a real thing. TV reviewers have described this on OLED tv's for years since the TV panels have been around much longer than gaming oled monitors. My understanding is that there is a minimum brightness oled pixels have to achieve before they turn on, and not all panels are equal, thus the loss of detail in dark images. I'm sure you see information about this if you do a google search.
This seems like the opposite of my experience. OLEDs bring a new dimension to dark shows like altered carbon whereas a LCD would distract you with the back light glow.
that's dependent on image processing and is pretty much a non-issue since 2019.
plus these things usually come with a "black stabilizer" dial so you can have fine control over near blacks. it's actually almost like a cheat if you want to exploit it, makes things super visible even in the darkest shadows.
ive only noticed that on my oled in low resolution and low birate videos. In games youll always be playing at the native res so i doubt it would have that issue.
I'm not sure what's sadder: The fact that that person watched the news until it got burn in, or the fact that he watched CNN news.
So,,, which is the best channel for news?
@@mrfo0l68why would you watch any?
There is a video, that is a large scale test.
@@DjBetoon you don't watch any?
@@mrfo0l68social media gives all the news before the news stations and you can see both sides. Isreals angle and Palestines angle. The news will play you like a fool making you pick a side when there are sides. Only propaganda.
Thx Paul for the info. I'm about to get a 4k oled and now I'm a little worried about burn in for my computer desktop. Not for gaming. And for watching movies.
Taking delivery of corsair flex monitor tomorrow, perfect timing on the video
I had been holding onto a Dell TN panel while waiting for OLED monitors. Got the AW3423DWF and can't imagine going back to a non OLED monitor. I'll probably (hopefully) hold onto this monitor until micro led becomes viable.
Thanks Paul 👍
the thing about brightness is something to consider, spend the extra money if you are going to have your oled display in a bright room. we got an LG B2, it looks absolutely amazing in our living room.
Pixel-shift is neat, had no idea it was on by default on our TV so not worries about burn-in are pretty much non-existant
Use my old C9 for 120Hz 4K gaming sometimes, looks and works great.