@@helloitsme327 I still have my plasma for movies, and the black frame insertion feature on my ips is much better than OLED , at the same brightness. I'm only missing out on HDR, and im fine without it.
That’s what I have, but honestly when it comes to gaming, I rarely appreciate the color/contrast that Oled offers. I’m sure it depends on the game and content you have on, but IPS is still very good in terms of picture quality.
A lot of people have made videos on this topic but I could never see the difference in videos, but your side by side comparison captures the difference really well.
The difference in black levels shown is a bit misleading though. While it may reflect the objective difference, the black levels one perceives subjectively from an IPS panel are just fine. Turn on a small, faint background light in your room and this will do wonders for perceived black levels and contrast.
Yes, when trying to show the comparison on video, you need a side by side. And even then, video doesn't pick up on it as well as in-person. OLED really does look SO much better. Like, a crazy amount. Only high-end mini-LEDs can even approach them. The bad thing is that when you go OLED, it's difficult to watch LCD displays 😂 For the comment above mine, you're not wrong. Perceived contrast does factor in. Having some ambient light around really helps with low contrast panels and perceived contrast, and the side by side wouldn't be as stark with some ambient lighting. But I can tell you that even with that factored in, an OLED looks much better in person, even in a room with ambient light. It's just such a large contrast difference, and modern OLEDs get bright enough that OLED just flat out looks better in any situation other than maybe blasting the sunlight directly onto it.
as someone who plays MMORPGs any screen that has any burn-in potential at all is just not a option. VA is also not a option because of the smearing, so IPS is the only valid option atm
New oleds are more durable, my 65 inch C1 has a lot of features that prevent burn in and was even tortured tested by a independently company to show that in built pixle cleaning software does wonders, phone screen oleds tend to be the least durable since they run brighter and have less oled care features.
@WristWatcher yes it does have pixle refresh. So after every couple of hours if usage it will run a pixle cleaning when shut off or going into standby I belive. But you may want to check the settings yourself if it's on.
@@Llehvee That is what I always got told about VA, looks good when nothing is moving but expect ghosting. Now I have never had a VA monitor. I went from CRT directly to IPS as I really wanted decent color accuracy and wide viewing angles. My personal experiences has not made me want to try VA displays. Now that is not something that I know from experiencing, just based on what others have said about VA. However I have recently heard more from people who prefer VA for the contrast and the lack of IPS glow. Personally I have never had a monitor with IOS glow bad enough I have even thought about it. Several people also claim that new VA panels doesn't suffer from the ghosting that older VA panels always had. Again I have no idea if that's true, but if it is at least some VA displays might be real good. I'll stay with IPS for now.
Never buy VA. If money is an issue, go with IPS. You will get used to the constrast ratio, but you will never get used to the smearing and smudging of the VA monitor. The moment you move your character the picture starts smudging, the moment you stop moving the image is sharp again. It's such a jarring effect it baffles me why this type of monitor is marketed at gaming, where this flaw is most visible.
The reason why i chose IPS even for gaming is the fact thag i have a 10 year old full HD IPS tv that is still going strong. The tech have matured and proven itself to be reliable.
Yeah , it’s clear you don’t have an oled. Once you try oled , there’s no going back. I had a very high end IPS panel (Samsung odyssey neo g7) before getting my LG c3 42 ad a pc monitor. I planed to use the G7 as a second monitor. I sold it , I can’t even look at it now I just see blooming and poor contrast now.
@lawyerlawyer1215 i do not need an old TV to know how good pled is in terms of visual esthetics. I could just stream my PC games to my oled android tablet is enough to show how gorgeous it looked. However, I would rather have my living room TV to have better longevity and a better idiot proofnes.
@@lawyerlawyer1215My solution is to never use an OLED screen 😂. Once I saw a 144Hz screen I could go back to 60Hz. Once I tried IPS I couldn't go back to TN. Once I tried 4K I couldn't go back to 1080p. So yeah, my solution is to never lay my eyes upon a 4K oled monitor 😂😂😂😂. I can't desire what I haven't seen.
An OLED display with a glossy screen, 4k resolution and enough PPI makes games look like the images of those games on CD cases and magazines. IT'S SHARP AND COLORFUL. Can't wait to see this tech mature.
Unlike my tv or my cellphone, I actually think burn in would be a bigger issue with a monitor at least in my case. I spend way too much time on Football Manager
Wait for microLED. It's not like miniLED. It's more like OLED, but without the downsides, like burn in or image retention. Once prices and sizes come down, it'll be as cost to perfect as any monitor has ever been, I think.
For desktop use I don't trust OLEDs. I don't want to worry about burn-in everytime I leave a static element on my pc. I'm a developer where there are a lot of static elements on my screen for hours so I keep going fo LCD.
The most complete, concise, well written and presenting videos! I have watched too many to care and just wanted to make sure I got the best monitor for me. Now I know, thank you!
I just had a QD-OLED for a few days. The color fringing on text is a serious issue in my opinion, I genuinely gave me a headache. Also if you play games with a lot of text it is also pretty bad. The annoying thing is that this issue is actually fixable in principal. MacType on Windows which uses the Freetype rendering which is the default for Linux, can actually ‚adjust‘ the cleartype rendering tech for different subpixel layouts. The problem is though that you can only change the system rendering for system application. Things like browsers, games, MS office and so on can and do render text without system calls, ie they do it in a ‚backed in‘ manner. So you loose this subpixel fine control. Why applications even decide to render text themself is extremely strange to me, its even worse that they can‘t grab these system settings because they are not yet considered standard, its just extremely stupid and weird. Anyway, the only other solutions are either conventional RGB subpixel layouts which I do not know if thats even possible, much higher pixel densities so you can‘t perceive subpixels anymore, or the monitors get some kind of on-the-fly processing for sharp edges (like text). I am honestly kinda surprised this isn‘t already a thing. One would think designing a signal processor for this should not be too dificult and these monitors are really expensive, so its definitely in the budget.
Nice video, I appreciate the out of focus simulations showcasing the color fringing, that was helpful. Hopefully the 4K monitor sized panels come out sooner than later, so the non standard pixel layouts are less of an issue.
I have the 27inch LG OLED and love it but would recommend that most people go IPS. IPS monitors are the most cost effective choice right now and for around 20-30% of the cost of an OLED monitor you can get a really nice IPS monitor with a high refresh rate and greater brightness. Unless you're like me and eat, sleep, and breath horror games and also primarily play games after dark I would wait till there is more competition between manufacturers that will hopefully drive the price of OLED monitors down.
Yeah, and struggling with awful black level without proper contrast, wich come in handy basically everywhere, not only horror games, viewing angle and terrible hdr experience (basically none)
The light text disappearing on black background in VA panels is a deal breaker for me. I would rather compromise on price, size and refresh rate to get a suitable IPS panel.
Went into this not knowing anything about displays and the most basic understanding of pixels. Now I can confidently decide the best monitor for how I use my setup. Thank you
@@antony3096 I got the MSI G321CU. Got it on an Amazon deal. 4K, 32", curved, 144hz, VA panel, and has AMD freesync for if u have an amd GPU. All that for only like $350
14:52 That "Bis zum nächsten Video" startled me a bit because I didn't expect you to be german. Also noticed some of those bots spamming 6 random names in the comments. Great video tho.
Pause at 0:03 IPS vs OLED you can see a little bit more brightness with IPS. Look closely in the middle center and compare it. I know oled is darker and nicer and all that stuff, but it is also makes things too dark enough to make things not visible anymore imo.
We've already reached peak IPS/VA design when it took over CRT around 20 years ago. In the beginning it was a blur fiesta but here we're today 360hz blur free. The next gen OLED/MicroLED is not quite there yet. But none of us are getting any younger!
The new OLED's that came out this year might actually be reaching that point. I finally upgraded from my IPS panel from 2017 and I can never go back. It's better than my previous monitor in every single way. The ONLY issue I think is text is a tad less clear than IPS but it's not an issue for me. It still looks nice unless I get really close to look at the text. But that is a small imperfection compared to all the benefits. I've had it over a week now and I am still in awe at how good things look on this.
OLED developmnent took over because Canon and Toshiba couldn't produce SED displays (direct competitive tech to OLED) due to ongoing lawsuits from Applied Nanotech.
An advantage that you didn't mention about IPS is that it has a wider viewing angle vs. VA. So if you have a wide seating arrangement, and on a budget, you may end up purchasing an IPS based TV.
Depends on a VA, some of them look nearly identical from any angle. I can see some colour inaccuracy when changing vertical angle on mine, but horizontally picture does not change except for some very small backlight bleed maybe.
@@xerxeslv Agreed. I bought a sony TV which I thought was an IPS because it has a wide viewing angle as I look at it from different angles while in the store. When I mounted it at home, the wide viewing angle is still there but I noticed that its black level is more beautiful than my other IPS monitors. After further research Ive learned that it was actually a VA panel that has a wide viewing angle.
@@guldanhamtaro Yep, that's why I have VA, like I dunno why for so many people colour accuracy is so important when they don't do photo/movie related work using the panel. For me deep blacks do much more than some accuracy that I will not notice anyways, my VA is wide gamut also so I can shoose from presets for different games or other media. And with brightness on max in wide gamut mode with saturated colours and deep blacks my panel looks kinda similar to oled display of the smartphone. It's not the same obviously, but as a cheap alternative to oled and without burnin problems... i dunno, can't get why people are buying ips with typical low contrast. I guess some VA panels could have more innacuracy from angle, but I am always looking straight at 90⁰ and the panel is curved so good colours from sides. I guess older VA panels would usually have more problems may be, low response time, smearing and stuff? Like after trying VA I would only go after oled, not ips...
VA is good enough now to not really notice tbh. I think these days IPS is only really useful for professional work. The current VA panels are much better than they used to be. Motion blur has pretty much been eleminated and response times are much better. Blacks are still a lot better than IPS which is something games make heavy use of. I don't feel the need to move to OLED, especially with the price and burn-in issues.
I was considering buying a OLED screen in the future, but I have to say that my IPS Monitor looks like 10 times better than yours in the video. At first I had a bit backlight bleeding, but after some weeks it was completely gone. I have an LG Ultragear 27GL850-B, changed some colour settings, reduced the brightness a bit and this panel just looks so amazing.
I recently bought the MSI G274QPF at Costco for 220 bucks which is an insane steal for a gaming monitor! 1440p resolution, 170hz refresh rate, Wide Color Gamete, Rapid IPS panel, 27 inch which is the sweet spot screen size for my desk setup and has more connection ports ! And was very satisfied as my early Christmas present!
Hey would you mind telling us which settings helped your monitor to look better, mine arrives on Thursday and i don't want it to look bad. Thanks in advance
@@kevan4259 depends on your setup. If you're primarily playing in a dimly lit room like I am, you want to turn up the contrast. In a completely dark room maybe turn down the brightness as well, and further increase the contrast just a bit. This will reduce the IPS problem of having poor contrast and displaying very grey blacks. I'm still running an ancient LG 34UC79G-B which I got around 5 years ago, and I left my settings at 50 brightness and 60 contrast. I have quite a bad case of blacklight bleed out of the box but to be perfectly honest I barely notice it in real use-cases e.g. when I watch a dark scene (note I am autistic and cannot ignore even the smallest distracting detail and dislike bright artificial light).
I got the lg ultra gear 32GP83B it has hdr 10 and with some adjusting my black levels look fine. It’s sitting next to my Razer blade 14 which has another amazing screen in it already.
if OLED can ever really address the burn in issues, and mitigate or prevent them, I'd totally get one. That's the ONE THING that I'm worried about. Everything else I could work with.
Younger person that never used CRT? Guessing so. CRT burned in BADLY, OLED can burn in if you're stupid. But if you use monitor hibernation and a screen saver, it's just not going to happen outside of some edge cases of someone running a high-contrast application. Like, literally black and white for MANY hours. Spreadsheets come to mind. Edit: Tube TV's burned in badly, too. And Plasma. 'Magine Dat!
@@Harctwo I have a 65" WOLED TV. Not even the slightest worry about burn in. My girlfriend will fall asleep and leave it in menus all night. Thankfully not too often. Pixel repair in LG panels works wonders, I have to assume Samsung QD-OLED and other panels are similar. I just wish CRT had the same functions, and it's safe to say those functions will continue to improve over time.
@@FunctionalCollapsing me when a joke... And its not even that wrong. If you actually wanna REALLY see the difference from this video you'd need an OLED.
As a non gamer I stick with VA until I get OLED. Which ever has the best contrast I prefer. I got a $100 Viewsonic VA and the colors are noticably better coming from cheap TN/IPS. Although I would be fine using any at this point. My phone is in 2K AMOLED so I can compromise.
I wish more people would have really hammered down the disadvantages of an IPS monitor when I was doing my research. I eventually landed on an IPS monitor and now regret it mightily. My only options now is to live with it, or sell the the IPS at loss. Wtf happened to monitors in the last 5 years? If my old lcd monitor from 2015 didn't die, I'd still be using it. It had great black levels, decent colors, and minimal ghosting/smearing. And at a budget friendly price as well. All these monitors today have glaring downsides.
I just bought an LG gn600 24 ips 144hz and the contrast is awful. I was thinking about getting a VA panel because I prefer good colors and contrast. I would even try a 75hz because the IPS black is basically grey. Do you know any good VA monitor 24”?
@@NegociosSemEstresse no but oddysey g7 is legit and has the best VA panel available for years. Great contrast incredible motion and cheap if you get it used.
@@guywithalltheanswers6942 Incredible motion and VA do not belong in the same sentence. To this day VA panels smear colors, especially darker ones. Combine that with the ugly hotspot contrast and tight viewing angles it's not worth it.
I got a LG 32GQ950 instead of an OLED monitor and don't regret it at all. But I choosed it because I use it for work and web browsing 80% of the time and maybe 20% for gaming. Meaning it would mostly have static images on it most of the day. But with that said, it's an amazing panel with good blacks for being an IPS, basicly no light bleed and very color accurate. But I still can't recommend it due to its price :(
8:58 I've searched for so long for this problem on my VA Panel and FINALLY I found a reason for it! So it's actually the VA Tech, that makes games in the dark look so frustratingly bad. Now I finally know, that I have to buy a IPA/OLED so I don't habe this problem any more. And also I finally understand the problem. Thanks!
@@РустемТхагапсов I mean remember when 4k curved tvs hit the market over a decade ago?. They were over $20000 for the cheapest model but now we can get a good non curved 4k tv for less than a thousand dollars (Talking about AUD not USD as I live in Australia so can only go off of those prices). Even Oled is super expensive still but it has come down a little the cx was like $3000 now I think it's under $2000 for the same tv only what a couple years or so later. I expect that micro led will be expensive for the first 2-5 years because it will be the best and latest technology but it too will come down eventually in price.
Okay, is it just me or at 3:00 minutes and through the video, that little shitty light on the bottom of the monitor is super annoying, why do they even make those lights like that, if you are testing to see if your monitor is on, that light can be on the back, where its not gonna distract you during dark scenes
I love to use the 4K ultra OLED monitor with 120hz than IPS because OLED is a best for movies and games 🎮. I bought the IPS monitor for my pc gaming until i will buy a best 4K ultra OLED monitor with 120hz or higher without ips
0:12 that setup is already wrong. With a monitor, such low ambient light is unaccepable. In normal lighted rooms, you can never tell the black level difference between AH-IPS, VA or OLED. You may only see a bit of backlight bleed when you peek on an IPS panel diagonally from above. For serious work, IPS is king for some years to come. I've a GB LED backlit IPS monitor (blue and green LED's with a red phosphor), and it blows anything else out of the water. OLED has much less gamut.
MicroLED will be my next technology. I have 2x 32inch 4K ips @144hz and intend to have them for many many years. I’m split almost exactly 50/50 across gaming and productivity.
The downside from oled is that it ages quick. VA and IPS doesn’t age that quick. I prefer VA because of the good contrasts and colors and the good price.
Im using an LG OLED 48" as pc monitor for 1,5 years now, and i regret nothing its soo good for gaming and everything else. Never had any green and red border effects at any time.
I have a uled va panel with 600ish local dimming zones and quantum pixels and its about as good as any oled I've seen lately. A tiny bit of bloom around very bright text on a black background like movie credits but for everything else its top notch. Certainly cost about half the price of a similarly sized oled.
@@steveteow5720 Hisense U8K. With a bit of calibration it will get near oled black levels with almost no black crush on dimly lit areas. The U8H(last years) is a bit cheaper for nearly the same visual quality but doesn't sport the Pentonic DolbyVision HDR 120hz chipset which up to now was an LG exclusive. 55" is VA and the larger sizes are IPS. The 55" VA panel is a bit better on response time and colors so is more suited as a console/pc gaming display. The larger sizes are going to be for those wishing to watch high quality streaming or video player content. A warning. These tv do not do well with low quality content and you will be disappointed if you are trying to mostly watch cable channels or other sub 1080p content. Pick a cheaper tv that caters to those inputs. But for high end video and console/pc use this tv is a no brainer purchase.
Yeh Samsung qn90a here 50 inch as a main monitor here and I really like it, however sometimes I miss black levels of oled I think. It is amazing in bright HDR scenes ofc.
Im normally sensitive to that kind of stuff but if you cap your FPS to something that your PC can maintain steadily than you'll have smoother gameplay and very little flicker only really noticeable in dark loading screens. Ive had my oled for 3 days and i don't even notice it anymore but if I did it would be worth it for the colors and no panel Glow/Backlight bleed.
I would love to switch to an oled, but I think the problem right now for us is price. We put that money into my new build a year and a half ago, so we have a more low-mid range budget on the monitor. Half the cost of my build went to a Asus 3080 strix during the shortage crisis. I was an art major in college. I get super ocd on color accuracy too. And I need more contrast on my next monitor. Games like lotro, eso, and skyrim are hard to see at night or in caves and dungeons. So I keep the room completly dark all day to compensate.
For color accuracy I'd say IPS is better than VA, but for contrast VA beats IPS. My guess is you would be better off with a good VA display than a good IPS display as the difference in contrast is quite large. OLED still has better contrast, but then there's the price. The big problems with VA are viewing angle which tends to be a lot worse than on IPS, motion blur is a problem mostly in games and color accuracy where VA displays have had a problem. But good quality VA displays today have pretty good color accuracy so that might be good enough for you. Personally I'm more concerned by color accuracy, speed and viewing angles than contrast so I'm in the IPS camp.
havent watched past 0:20 yet.. but first thought: yes looks good but.. burn in danger? reaction time? blur? deep blacks are cool but nothing that i would trade for gettings theres 3 things worse. overall.. i started in the late 90s with crt. first lcd monitors were cool by design, but bad in image quality. after they got better, tn panels were the standard. nowadays, tn is old, ips still good but on its way to be replaced. thing is: its like with tires. theres no perfect for everything device to this day
Nice video, it's still up for debate which monitor tech is best - probably still in that annoying situation where you'd really want 2 or 3 different screens for doing everything - although that obviously isn't really a possibility. I think I'm going to stick it out with my IPS for a while, and maybe assess the situation with OLED (or micro LED by then) in a couple of years
yeah im very happy with my Samsung G7 in general, allthough I do admit that im very intrigued by OLED, that being said, Ive heard that they are workin on improving OLED and the functions in the new gaming OLED monitors (LG, Asus etc) that wont be available until maybe 2025, so I will aim to get one by then!
@@armorgiraffemy last samsung monitor finally went out and im stuck between the g7 or a VA omen monitor. I dont see enough on the wider omens (32-34 inch curved) but my issue with the g7 is the space it takes up on my desk whereas the omens offer great specs and dont take up as much space.
Why is the black in the OLED monitor looking blacker than the black in the VA monitor, if I'm watching both on my VA monitor. I mean, somebody enlighten me.
If you're a gamer and don't do productivity work on your personal PC, then OLED is definitely worth it, imo. I have the Alienware AW3423DW and it is THE best upgrade (went from VA) I've made in a long time. It is amazing for gaming, truly jaw-dropping in action. I don't know how many times I've been blown away by the visuals this thing gives to games. It's an experience for sure. Definitely worth every penny for a PC gamer.
What about fps games like valorant which it doesn't support 21:9 res I heard the black bars is bad for OLED displays do u recommend Alienware ? I play valorant and single player games and watch anime and movies
@@noone-zv3bz lol Blackbars aren’t bad for OLED the opposite actually. The 21:9 OLEDs are QD Oleds which are a bit superior to this 27 inch WOLED. If you don’t like Black Bars then id pick the 27inch one if you don’t mind and play games that support 21:9 then pick one. Monitore Unboxed has great videos on them. 42inch OLED TVs are always an option as well
@@KopfdesRiesen i play valorant a lot in the same time i cant buy the 27 lg or asus OLED cause of matte finish and HDR looks so bad so the Alienware best choice casue I also watch movies and the glossy looks siiick do u think the games will looks normal with black bars i mean fov and the stretch res
@@noone-zv3bz Hard agreed lol fuck matt screens. Dough makes one with the same panel thats glossy but they are shipping in the end of Sommer. Previous monitors are still not delivered as far as i know! I hope the monitor industry starts offering more Glossy/matte options to chose. Monitor or Hardware unboxed reviewed the Alienware, MSI and now Samsung one with that QD OLED panel id recommend checking that out. Even tho they’ll probably all be a great choice
It's good to know that the decision in favour of an IPS panel about 5 years ago was still the right one. What is sobering, however, is that if I wanted to buy a new display today, I would get almost the same thing for my budget. Same resolution, same contrast, same panel, etc. I would get an IPS panel with more Hz. But that's about it. Especially after such a long wait, I was hoping for a revolutionary breakthrough that would make the displays significantly better and/or significantly cheaper.
i have oled display devices but the lifespan is very low :( i got screen burn ins and after 1 half year of usage the burn ins are very visible that makes the viewing experience worst
New oled tech are much more durable my 65 inch oled C1 has no burn in after Year as a main computers screen, its only the super bright oleds that burn in fast like on phones.
I'm quite happy to say that my Samsung S27F350 IPS monitor doesn't have any kinds of defects. There's no backlight bleed at all, only a bit of grey color visible in the dark. But what wouldn't fix it other than switching the Dynamic Contrast on? The glow is gone, but the screen gets almost pitch black when nothing bright is displayed.
@@EvolutionBG I mean, it runs at 75hz without any issues and it even gets rid of the slight inverse ghostng visible on the white colors. It's just too big for a 1080p display.
I hope we get to see OLED without burn in in the future, as is I see OLED as insanely expensive disposable tech. Aside from money that's the only thing that's put me off of OLED. It's expensive but if it could last a long time I wouldn't have issues paying for it, at the end of the day that's the most important part of the human-computer interface. But pay 1K for something that's gonna burn in in a bit? With my gaming sessions that last up to 12 hours when I have the free time? With static HUD elements like the minimap, health, ammo, objectives, aiming reticle etc?
It doesn't precisely burn in a bit although if your 12 hour sessions were daily or so it'd take a around a couple of years to start displaying it, depending on the brand. Rtings has some extreme burnin tests you might want to check out.
The TVs have a burn in issue more. Unless you're really overdoing it, it shouldn't be too much of a worry on a monitor. I've never gotten burn-in on my OLED phone in a long time. Also I play a lot of fps games, and you'd be lucky to always be in a match for a full 12 hours or even hour. You should be in the menus, tabbing out, etc. between matches, at least that's what I do especially when queue times are long.
@@aouyiu I don't play multiplayer games so when I play a game there's not much going through the menus and I like to see everything on the HUD so those spots are gonna be up for 4-5 hours sometimes
Iin 2012 I bought the Galaxy S3 with "Super AMOLED" and was stunned. A decade later, my new LG C2 is bringing back old and new found love! Nothing compares to the capabilities so far and it's only getting better. (this is not an employee for big oled)
OLED Burn in really is a non issue for Movies (Most T.V. as well) and Games because the pixels will constantly be refreshed without much worry. It would take considerable effort to actually destroy an OLED while gaming or watching a movie.
It's a bad design though. That's like having a car made out of carbon steel with no coding. Sure if you put it in a garbage and wipe it off after it rains you'll be okay, but why take the chance?
@@WristWatcher there have been plenty of tests done world wide and qdled are very bad at burnin, or are you just too lazy to do any of your own research and expect everyone else to give you the answers
I've bought a monitor with VA panel. I do everything, from playing games, watching mvoies to studying and graphical design. It's pretty decent technology, but the ghosting is visible and I have hard time choosing the right contrast for dark colours, because people who have IPS sees it differently. But that's just all, I think it's a good idea to go for a VA panel after all.
I much prefer VA than IPS, i love deep blacks that make the colors pop and that grey glow in IPS ruins it for me. OLED is the best but having to pay near x3 the price only to get a permanent burn in after a few months is just not worth it
@@Mafw7777 Yeah I think it highly depends on which VA panel you get. If you’re buying a cheaper monitor then I’m sure VA has lots of ghosting, but if you’re buying a pretty nice monitor they’re fine, not much difference between IPS and VA. I got a 1440p ultrawide 144hz VA panel with 1ms response time and it doesn’t have much ghosting at all. I can’t imagine an IPS panel would be much different. My next upgrade will hopefully be OLED in the future though.
@@amokanaBlack in the VA panel is a big lie, Nowdays a IPS or ADS panel it has the seme dark of VA panel only need few adjustments, look at this IPS without local dimming in dark scenes ua-cam.com/video/mWKtd2mrod8/v-deo.html Now look at this a VA qled panel with local dimming at full vs Oled panel in the Real Life you can see the big difference difference ua-cam.com/video/UaIwB6tkFE0/v-deo.html
I monitor is on 70% night mode 24/7 so it wont really matter what type i go with It might sound stupid for some of you but i get headaches everytime i turn it off so its much better for me with it
Same with me. OLED is a new a tech, so it still has issues and costs a lot. In a few years price will drop by half and most of the issues will be fixed
@@STKReacts hahaha that’s great. OLED screens are very beautiful but they are too expensive for me. Your rig is my dream, must be awesome to be able to play every game you want on highest graphics and resolution
For me: Im using a 1440p144Hz IPS LCD. I put a screen-light on top. So it got much less IPS glow. Mostly the IPS glow are reflections of your room. I highly recommend this lamp. 9:56 here you can see that LC-Displays also can do better white colours. Burn in after 7000 hours on a OLED Screen on max brightness: Not noticeable, only if you display some special full screen like at 13:46 and you have to seach the issues. Also the brightness got loss about 8%. This is the scenario if you using you monitor about 6 hours a day and after 3-4 years at full brightness. Important is not to remove the power cord on OLED Panels. Sometimes it will heat up the pixels.
I have both IPS and OLED panels. I use OLED when I play single/FPS games and watching movies/UA-cam while I use the IPS when I work or play MMORPG. Best of both worlds.
I'd love more black level detail than IPS, but for now just can't accept losing anything when it comes to text sharpness or SRGB range color accuracy. In the near future I hope to maybe find some flat VA monitor using a Samsung panel(for the speed). Otherwise I'll be stuck in 27" 1440p IPS "mediocrity". ☺️
samsung panels are among some of the worst in lcd and oled, if you have a samsung that is good you will probably find that it uses a lg screen because lg used to make all the screens for samsung (you only have to go to your nearest electronics store that has all the tvs together to see this). ps samsung oled are also the worst when it comes to burn in
That's because people always compare cheap VA panels against more expensive IPS panels. I'm using cheap VA panel and just switched to a cheap HP IPS panel. And the IPS is so much worse than VA. If you want to buy VA, look at the one with 100% sRGB.
@@bjorn1583no man the latest Samsung VA panels are the bomb. They have permanently defeated the notorius ghosting effect. Right now it's only present on their high-end va panels, hopefully in the future it will reach the lower budget as well
@@adrianpaul3749 when this vid was posted samsung were the worst at ghosting so get with the times. until the testers have shown the updated results anything you say is hearsay until proven
sadly no mention of PWM or pulse width modulation used on oled screens to set the brightness. Most people have no isdue with this underlying 'flickering' of the screen but there are more and more thst face headaches, eye strain and even feeling sick. And sadly its only when you dtart using these oled thst you find out you are sensitive to it or not also depending on the brightness. The lowrr the more chance it may affect you. Sadly manufactors do not inform people thst they use it and st what frequency....
This video convinced me to buy oled. Went for alienware's ultrawide DWF and it is absolutely stunning. I would like to say for anyone still on the fence that the difference is much much bigger in person than what you see on the video. The video will only give you a small taste of how big the difference is because the camera just doesn't capture the full difference in brightness, contrast and detail. When you have OLED and LCD next to each other in your room, the difference is huge. Absolutely amazing tech. In short words, it looks like you are looking straight through a window and it feels like you can touch what's on the other side. Watched Interstellar last night, wonderful experience especially in the black hole scene.
I only saw an OLED tv once in a store next to others and I almost shat myself with how amazing it looked. As you said, everything looked real, like you can touch it. Can't wait to get a monitor some day for my gaming.
@@GatsuKS Yep, I was in a hardware store and saw some big OLED tv and that's where I saw for the first time how good it looks. Absolutely worth saving up for. I recommend getting QD OLED.
I used to play with strix 165hz 27" IPS but bought LG C1 48" OLED to try it out. The IPS is now my secondary discord monitor. The difference is like going from DVD to Bluray.
Same, I use a gigabyte 32 inch IPS 170hz as my secondary 1440p and a Gigabyte aorus 48 inch 120hz 4k OLED panel as my main. and Oled is just better in my experience. the TRUE blacks and the depth, contrast, dynamic range just outweigh any negatives. I wish I had two oleds now because when the screens are both dark from the scene i can see the backlight of the ips is glaring compared to the pitch black of oled
@@kutluarcturus12 ok stay in dark with those oled eventually i like natural light in my room ips all day and will get oled when they work more on it and get way cheap.I have oled tv and its good but not perfect in some cases
i bought a 4k OLED and used it for two weeks and returned it, notbeing able to just go AFK and not think about it just is a massive con for me. i want to be able to just not have to worry and go about my day. id ont want to think about using black backgrounds or close games with ui or make sure it goes ons tandby if im afk for a while. its all too much
I'm using a 1080p 75Hz IPS at the moment and since I'm just a casual gamer it gets the job done just fine and it wasn't that expensive either. I'll probably upgrade once OLED 1080p panels become available and they aren't that expensive anymore. I know that won't be soon but I feel like only that kind of upgrade would make sense for me. Getting a 144Hz 1080p feels kinda pointless, 1440p is too expensive for me especially when it comes to a PC that would output that resolution. So yeah ideally I'd stick with 1080p but OLED would definitely be a big upgrade.
I feel you, brother, but we can only dream of that. There's no way manufacturers are going to produce displays with premium technology and budget low-tier parameters such as 1080p resolution. They'll continue to go after the premium market segment with 4K and ridiculous refresh rates.
1440p is a goo compromise, i play on 4k and everxtime stryggel and need to get the newerst Graphik card 💳 for maximum experience. But i cant go back to FHD. The image is mor clear and collerfull and have more details. Sometimes i think about to get in the middle for better fps and lower updating rate.
I have 2 LG OLED TVs. The first one I brought was the C1 65 inch. I used it for 5 years now, no burn in. Average 5 hrs a day for TV and Gaming. Recently, I brought a 42 inch LG C3 as a monitor to replace My old Dell S3220DGF (which with Batman logo in dark scenes). It is night and day difference. No more backlight bleed, HDR is great. 800 mits brightness in HDR mode. I can use this TV in a bright room. The only one thing I don't like about it was when over half of the screen is white then it dimmed the brightness. Otherwise everything else is amazing.
Great video, thank you. Personally, I sum up my stance on monitors like this: Watching movies is best on OLEDs. Office work (especially reading / writing text and working on spreadsheets) is best on LCDs, with VA being preferable if you have a lot of black backgrounds, and IPS being preferable if you mainly have white backgrounds. Gaming is best on high-end CRT monitors (if you can find one, which is getting more and more difficult & expensive).
As a casual FPS/Racing gamer and pretty big media consumer I recently switched from my 32” LG IPS gaming monitor for a 42” LG C2 OLED TV and I have no regrets, the little bit of effort to stop burn-in is worth having the AMAZING movie experience.
The brightness point is kinda funny, cause if you're one of those people that keep there IPS brightness at 33-50% (like I used to be), then you won't really feel the difference going to OLED. I have been considering though putting my 4k IPS with mini-LED backlight on a monitor arm next to my ultrawide QD-OLED, specifically for web browsing, whatsapp and discord, because it displays text SO crisp, and then keep my games and media on the OLED.
I'm happy with my IPS. I tried switching to a VA, but switched back because I didn't like the motion blur. I'm not using OLED on a desktop system until they fix the burn-in issue.
lg panels dont have that issue (yet) samsung panels are the ones with all the burn in (samsung, sony and phillips use the samsung panels that l know of)
One thing missing here is the color reproduction. How accurate are the colors. For creatives such as photo editors, video editors, graphic designers, etc.
i have been using 4k OLED tv as monitor for years i had the LG C8, the LG CX and now the samsung s95b and never had a problem with burn in, i do keep the brightness low because my room is dark and also never leave the tv on if im not using it.
I heard some people say that OLED in FPS games with dark areas could make enemies a little bit harder to identify in the environment (Known as black crush), have you experienced anything similar to this? Another thing, have you noticed that bright scenes with no dark backgrounds can look better in the IPS? Do the colors pop up more for one screen or another? Thank you for sharing your detailed experience.
I have all 3 panel types and I agree with your assessment. While oled is the best/my favorite for image quality. I found out real quick that what i thought wasn't a particularly bright room was still overpowering the screen during the day, va is basically an all a rounder/jack of all trades but master of none type. It is really close to oled for sdr with good contrast and gets plenty bright for daytime viewing (why I use it for my main content display during the day), but the backlight bleed/haloing is very noticable in the dark, and ips is better for off angle with great pixel response(better than va for games) while also having the brightness of lcd.
@@stanislavkimov2779 I'm not really the one to ask as I don't have mini led. There are tons of reviewers who know better than me as they have used them and do it for a living. Though I'd imagine the same would hold true to what's been said, just to a different degree (backlighting of any kind will have some haloing just due to it still being backlit and oled with it's individual pixel lighting will always win out there, as for brightness it's probably going to be best)
Oled will be perfect for planned obscolescence... throw out your monitor after 2-3 years max because it's dimmed to hell by now and have permanent burn-in elements from GUI or HUD
Bei 9:54 min, die 243 nits mögen vielleicht auf den Monitor zutreffen, den sie hier testen, allerdings trifft das in dem Fall nur auf ihren getesteten OLED Monitor zu. Ich besitze 2x Alienware 3423DW Monitore, diese haben bis zu 1.000 Nits. Ich damit keinerlei Probleme mit offenen Fenster zu Spielen/zu Arbeiten. Warum zeigen sie nur die Kontrastverhältisse von VA und IPS? Weil OLED im Vergleich zu hoch ist? Es gibt nur 1 Problem das OLED im Vergleich zu den anderen hat, Einbrenneffekt. Aber selbst ein Einbrenneffekt stört ich weniger als die Hintergrundbeleuchtung von VA und IPS und das Grau... das kein schwarz ist.
Not that I didn’t know what you showed but an excellent video nevertheless. A comparison of OLED and IPS/VA miniLED would be most welcome. Very solid work!
Personally i would consider an OLED IF the burn in issue would be solved. Especially on pc/windows with alot of static stuff especially on the second screen. So i'll still stick to the IPS Team.
It will never be solved, that's the problem. The reason being is that all lights will change their output over time to varying degree's. Even LCD backlight brightness degrades with time, but since it's one light, every pixel is still uniform in brightness, so you don't notice, you just tick the brightness up a bit more for the same brightness. But since OLED's are millions of individual lights, they will always be degrading at different rates, depending on what each pixel displays over its life. In order to get rid of backlight bleed, they would have to design a completely new panel type. The funny thing is the successor to OLED, will likely be LCD. All you really need is better control over the way the liquid crystal allows light to pass through. If they could come up with a design that is capable of blocking all light, while also capable of better filtering colors for vibrancy and brightness, you'd essentially have OLED performance in an LCD. But they'd also need to be able to do this at a fast rate. For OLED it's as simple as a voltage change and the pixel gets brighter or darker, for LCD, the pixel itself needs to physical alter its internal structure to change what light it allows through, which takes more time. Technically we could have those LCD's right now, they'd just be more power hungry, since you could create more layers to block light, while also increasing the backlight brightness to increase overall brightness of lit up pixels. So you'd have OLED vibrancy, but it's be like 4 times the energy cost. So energy efficiency targets play a big role in why LCD's are limited. And that's why OLED is the tech that is considered favored, because of its energy efficiency. So we could have better looking monitors without OLED, but because of government meddling, no one even considers designing such a monitor with LCD, because the government would come down on them for being less efficient. And that is why we're stuck with OLED. It's even possible now to make flat screen CRT's. But again, that would be an energy hog, so they simply don't do it.
Tried OLED once, frustrated me after a year when the burn in kick in. Color reproduction is so good for my work, but spending another $1000 every 2 3 years, hurts me more in the long run.
@@Diwasho Maybe but it's not common at all on lcd screens. I have a 7 year old ips that has been on for 10+ hours every single day without any burn in on it at all and another screen that is at least 5 years old that has been on for a lot of time too with no issue.
I recently bought a Dell G2724D and I'm more than happy with it. One of the cheapest 2560x1440p IPS monitors but still has nvidia g-sync, 165 Hz on DisplayPort, 99% sRGB range, HDR (basic quality), and 1ms response time all for $250 (MSRP $300, I believe)!! It doesn't have super customizable settings but has all the fundamentals and, even then, a bit more
Oled is only worth when you play games or watch videos. I use more office stuff and some gaming that’s why I used IPS and for movies etc. I have my Oled tv.
First thing I do on my monitors, is turn down brightness. Most of them are turned way up by default and look washed out. I have a Samsung QLED 49" ultrawide monitor. The brightness was set to 60 and when loading white web pages is nearly blinding. I turned that down to 30 and everything is so much more natural looking. I used to do the same thing on my LG IPS monitors as well. Manufacturer's want colors to 'pop' when you see their monitors and their default settings are not good for general everyday usage but rather, are for super bright retail environments.
Basically ,we need to have at least 2 monitors. An IPS for daytime use and productivity , and an OLED for dark room gaming /movies.
Problem solved! :V
if u have money for oled monitor you probably already have something before
@@helloitsme327 I still have my plasma for movies, and the black frame insertion feature on my ips is much better than OLED , at the same brightness. I'm only missing out on HDR, and im fine without it.
That’s what I have, but honestly when it comes to gaming, I rarely appreciate the color/contrast that Oled offers. I’m sure it depends on the game and content you have on, but IPS is still very good in terms of picture quality.
@@sogetsu60
What's your ips monitor?
IPS Really Don't Have Dark Black level but IPS has the best Color Accuracy..
Better than OLED? No
@@ppeez yes better than oled , thet color accuracy is top tier on ips , that's why pro art monitors are ips
“Is LCD Still Relevant?” As long as OLED tech remains stuck in kilobuck land, yeah, I’d say LCD panels are still plenty relevant lol
Agree, but the price is dropping QDOLED from Alienware starts at 799 at 34 in I think, I smell a Black Friday Deal for them...
And until oled burn in time is reduced
A lot of people have made videos on this topic but I could never see the difference in videos, but your side by side comparison captures the difference really well.
The difference in black levels shown is a bit misleading though. While it may reflect the objective difference, the black levels one perceives subjectively from an IPS panel are just fine. Turn on a small, faint background light in your room and this will do wonders for perceived black levels and contrast.
Yes, when trying to show the comparison on video, you need a side by side.
And even then, video doesn't pick up on it as well as in-person.
OLED really does look SO much better. Like, a crazy amount.
Only high-end mini-LEDs can even approach them.
The bad thing is that when you go OLED, it's difficult to watch LCD displays 😂
For the comment above mine, you're not wrong.
Perceived contrast does factor in.
Having some ambient light around really helps with low contrast panels and perceived contrast, and the side by side wouldn't be as stark with some ambient lighting.
But I can tell you that even with that factored in, an OLED looks much better in person, even in a room with ambient light.
It's just such a large contrast difference, and modern OLEDs get bright enough that OLED just flat out looks better in any situation other than maybe blasting the sunlight directly onto it.
@coolcat23 put an oled and ips together and try viewing the exact same media, the difference is insane
as someone who plays MMORPGs any screen that has any burn-in potential at all is just not a option. VA is also not a option because of the smearing, so IPS is the only valid option atm
New oleds are more durable, my 65 inch C1 has a lot of features that prevent burn in and was even tortured tested by a independently company to show that in built pixle cleaning software does wonders, phone screen oleds tend to be the least durable since they run brighter and have less oled care features.
@@miguellopez3392 what about the alienware qd-oled aw2725df? Can you let me know if this one is newer tech?
@WristWatcher yes it does have pixle refresh. So after every couple of hours if usage it will run a pixle cleaning when shut off or going into standby I belive. But you may want to check the settings yourself if it's on.
@@WristWatcher I’ve had the Alienware quantum dot OLED monitor since its release in 2022. No burn-in yet & I use it for everything.
@@MrDadHatthings like staring for 10 hours a day at an ide like visual studio code as well? 😂 just asking, i need to choose
Mini LED is the way to go. The blacks are almost as good as OLED, without the cons of OLED.
still vrr cons
Not that great but yeah you sohuld compare things of same price range instead of comparing 400 bucks screen to a 1000$ one
I came here to know if I should get a VA or IPS panel, and left wanting to spend my lifesavings to get the best OLED one. Oh shit.
OLED is nice if it's for gaming or movies. If you are going to spend the most time with office use I would still look at an IPS screen.
watch out for burn in
Don't get VA. I learned that the hard way. Contrast is good but it suffers from ghosting.
@@Llehvee That is what I always got told about VA, looks good when nothing is moving but expect ghosting.
Now I have never had a VA monitor. I went from CRT directly to IPS as I really wanted decent color accuracy and wide viewing angles. My personal experiences has not made me want to try VA displays. Now that is not something that I know from experiencing, just based on what others have said about VA. However I have recently heard more from people who prefer VA for the contrast and the lack of IPS glow. Personally I have never had a monitor with IOS glow bad enough I have even thought about it. Several people also claim that new VA panels doesn't suffer from the ghosting that older VA panels always had. Again I have no idea if that's true, but if it is at least some VA displays might be real good. I'll stay with IPS for now.
Never buy VA. If money is an issue, go with IPS. You will get used to the constrast ratio, but you will never get used to the smearing and smudging of the VA monitor. The moment you move your character the picture starts smudging, the moment you stop moving the image is sharp again. It's such a jarring effect it baffles me why this type of monitor is marketed at gaming, where this flaw is most visible.
The reason why i chose IPS even for gaming is the fact thag i have a 10 year old full HD IPS tv that is still going strong. The tech have matured and proven itself to be reliable.
I support! Similar story!
I need to buy an IPS glossy display for my photo/video editing. Any suggestions?
Yeah , it’s clear you don’t have an oled.
Once you try oled , there’s no going back.
I had a very high end IPS panel (Samsung odyssey neo g7) before getting my LG c3 42 ad a pc monitor.
I planed to use the G7 as a second monitor.
I sold it , I can’t even look at it now
I just see blooming and poor contrast now.
@lawyerlawyer1215 i do not need an old TV to know how good pled is in terms of visual esthetics. I could just stream my PC games to my oled android tablet is enough to show how gorgeous it looked. However, I would rather have my living room TV to have better longevity and a better idiot proofnes.
@@lawyerlawyer1215My solution is to never use an OLED screen 😂. Once I saw a 144Hz screen I could go back to 60Hz. Once I tried IPS I couldn't go back to TN. Once I tried 4K I couldn't go back to 1080p. So yeah, my solution is to never lay my eyes upon a 4K oled monitor 😂😂😂😂. I can't desire what I haven't seen.
You have some of the best comparison shots I've seen in a video like this. Great work!
An OLED display with a glossy screen, 4k resolution and enough PPI makes games look like the images of those games on CD cases and magazines. IT'S SHARP AND COLORFUL. Can't wait to see this tech mature.
on 10:22 its awful with ambient light on qd oled with glossy finish....way better is semi mate coating like 27GR95QE
@@iDexy88 unlucky for those who use lights. I don't.
Lg 27gr95qe is 1440p 240hz and 2160p 120hz monitor.
Fine taste
I have the lg and it already does this. Especially if you run it in 4k mode.
Unlike my tv or my cellphone, I actually think burn in would be a bigger issue with a monitor at least in my case. I spend way too much time on Football Manager
It is almost like the perfect monitor is kept away from us. There is always a compromise. If we had a perfect one, we would never buy another. Hmm.
suspicious right ? :)
Wait for microLED. It's not like miniLED. It's more like OLED, but without the downsides, like burn in or image retention. Once prices and sizes come down, it'll be as cost to perfect as any monitor has ever been, I think.
For desktop use I don't trust OLEDs. I don't want to worry about burn-in everytime I leave a static element on my pc. I'm a developer where there are a lot of static elements on my screen for hours so I keep going fo LCD.
The most complete, concise, well written and presenting videos! I have watched too many to care and just wanted to make sure I got the best monitor for me. Now I know, thank you!
What did u get at the end?
I just had a QD-OLED for a few days. The color fringing on text is a serious issue in my opinion, I genuinely gave me a headache. Also if you play games with a lot of text it is also pretty bad.
The annoying thing is that this issue is actually fixable in principal. MacType on Windows which uses the Freetype rendering which is the default for Linux, can actually ‚adjust‘ the cleartype rendering tech for different subpixel layouts.
The problem is though that you can only change the system rendering for system application. Things like browsers, games, MS office and so on can and do render text without system calls, ie they do it in a ‚backed in‘ manner. So you loose this subpixel fine control.
Why applications even decide to render text themself is extremely strange to me, its even worse that they can‘t grab these system settings because they are not yet considered standard, its just extremely stupid and weird.
Anyway, the only other solutions are either conventional RGB subpixel layouts which I do not know if thats even possible, much higher pixel densities so you can‘t perceive subpixels anymore, or the monitors get some kind of on-the-fly processing for sharp edges (like text). I am honestly kinda surprised this isn‘t already a thing. One would think designing a signal processor for this should not be too dificult and these monitors are really expensive, so its definitely in the budget.
Nice video, I appreciate the out of focus simulations showcasing the color fringing, that was helpful. Hopefully the 4K monitor sized panels come out sooner than later, so the non standard pixel layouts are less of an issue.
IPS has the same black level of VA you can see it in the second 0:01 IPS is far superior to the VA, IPS has accurate color and vibrant
Yes...we know you're using an IPS monitor chill chill uwu
I have the 27inch LG OLED and love it but would recommend that most people go IPS. IPS monitors are the most cost effective choice right now and for around 20-30% of the cost of an OLED monitor you can get a really nice IPS monitor with a high refresh rate and greater brightness. Unless you're like me and eat, sleep, and breath horror games and also primarily play games after dark I would wait till there is more competition between manufacturers that will hopefully drive the price of OLED monitors down.
Yeah, and struggling with awful black level without proper contrast, wich come in handy basically everywhere, not only horror games, viewing angle and terrible hdr experience (basically none)
Yep currently enjoying my LG32 gq950-b😁
Yesterday i've received my OLED Alienware 34" and games looks way more beatiful. It's like a heavy moded + ENB on every game
The light text disappearing on black background in VA panels is a deal breaker for me. I would rather compromise on price, size and refresh rate to get a suitable IPS panel.
Went into this not knowing anything about displays and the most basic understanding of pixels. Now I can confidently decide the best monitor for how I use my setup. Thank you
Which one did you choose
@@antony3096 I got the MSI G321CU. Got it on an Amazon deal. 4K, 32", curved, 144hz, VA panel, and has AMD freesync for if u have an amd GPU. All that for only like $350
14:52 That "Bis zum nächsten Video" startled me a bit because I didn't expect you to be german. Also noticed some of those bots spamming 6 random names in the comments. Great video tho.
Now that you mention it I really notice his accent as german. Why? Cuz I'm german and I feel like my accent is almost exactly the same 😅
Pause at 0:03 IPS vs OLED you can see a little bit more brightness with IPS. Look closely in the middle center and compare it. I know oled is darker and nicer and all that stuff, but it is also makes things too dark enough to make things not visible anymore imo.
We've already reached peak IPS/VA design when it took over CRT around 20 years ago. In the beginning it was a blur fiesta but here we're today 360hz blur free. The next gen OLED/MicroLED is not quite there yet. But none of us are getting any younger!
indeed, back in the early days I just treat it s enbeded motion blur.
The new OLED's that came out this year might actually be reaching that point. I finally upgraded from my IPS panel from 2017 and I can never go back. It's better than my previous monitor in every single way. The ONLY issue I think is text is a tad less clear than IPS but it's not an issue for me. It still looks nice unless I get really close to look at the text. But that is a small imperfection compared to all the benefits. I've had it over a week now and I am still in awe at how good things look on this.
IPS still has a bit more room. Local dimming might be a new avenue that they could go down
@@ADreamingTraveler is the aw2725df by alienware a good qd-oled??
OLED developmnent took over because Canon and Toshiba couldn't produce SED displays (direct competitive tech to OLED) due to ongoing lawsuits from Applied Nanotech.
An advantage that you didn't mention about IPS is that it has a wider viewing angle vs. VA. So if you have a wide seating arrangement, and on a budget, you may end up purchasing an IPS based TV.
Depends on a VA, some of them look nearly identical from any angle. I can see some colour inaccuracy when changing vertical angle on mine, but horizontally picture does not change except for some very small backlight bleed maybe.
IPS is trash
@@xerxeslv
Agreed.
I bought a sony TV which I thought was an IPS because it has a wide viewing angle as I look at it from different angles while in the store.
When I mounted it at home, the wide viewing angle is still there but I noticed that its black level is more beautiful than my other IPS monitors.
After further research Ive learned that it was actually a VA panel that has a wide viewing angle.
@@guldanhamtaro Yep, that's why I have VA, like I dunno why for so many people colour accuracy is so important when they don't do photo/movie related work using the panel. For me deep blacks do much more than some accuracy that I will not notice anyways, my VA is wide gamut also so I can shoose from presets for different games or other media. And with brightness on max in wide gamut mode with saturated colours and deep blacks my panel looks kinda similar to oled display of the smartphone.
It's not the same obviously, but as a cheap alternative to oled and without burnin problems... i dunno, can't get why people are buying ips with typical low contrast.
I guess some VA panels could have more innacuracy from angle, but I am always looking straight at 90⁰ and the panel is curved so good colours from sides. I guess older VA panels would usually have more problems may be, low response time, smearing and stuff? Like after trying VA I would only go after oled, not ips...
VA is good enough now to not really notice tbh. I think these days IPS is only really useful for professional work.
The current VA panels are much better than they used to be. Motion blur has pretty much been eleminated and response times are much better. Blacks are still a lot better than IPS which is something games make heavy use of.
I don't feel the need to move to OLED, especially with the price and burn-in issues.
This was a great watch - structuring, pacing, and B-roll were just incredibly well executed. Well done!
I was considering buying a OLED screen in the future, but I have to say that my IPS Monitor looks like 10 times better than yours in the video. At first I had a bit backlight bleeding, but after some weeks it was completely gone. I have an LG Ultragear 27GL850-B, changed some colour settings, reduced the brightness a bit and this panel just looks so amazing.
I recently bought the MSI G274QPF at Costco for 220 bucks which is an insane steal for a gaming monitor! 1440p resolution, 170hz refresh rate, Wide Color Gamete, Rapid IPS panel, 27 inch which is the sweet spot screen size for my desk setup and has more connection ports ! And was very satisfied as my early Christmas present!
Hey would you mind telling us which settings helped your monitor to look better, mine arrives on Thursday and i don't want it to look bad. Thanks in advance
@@kevan4259 depends on your setup. If you're primarily playing in a dimly lit room like I am, you want to turn up the contrast. In a completely dark room maybe turn down the brightness as well, and further increase the contrast just a bit. This will reduce the IPS problem of having poor contrast and displaying very grey blacks. I'm still running an ancient LG 34UC79G-B which I got around 5 years ago, and I left my settings at 50 brightness and 60 contrast. I have quite a bad case of blacklight bleed out of the box but to be perfectly honest I barely notice it in real use-cases e.g. when I watch a dark scene (note I am autistic and cannot ignore even the smallest distracting detail and dislike bright artificial light).
I got the lg ultra gear 32GP83B it has hdr 10 and with some adjusting my black levels look fine. It’s sitting next to my Razer blade 14 which has another amazing screen in it already.
This is one of the best videos i have seen that explains EXACTLY what i was looking for. thank you!
Just got an oled today... it's unreal how much better it is. I've had Va and Ips before and they aren't even close
0:05 lol im watching on a 23" 1080p 60hz moniter, so they all look the same for me. maybe i need a better moniter? 😏
you’re challenged
if OLED can ever really address the burn in issues, and mitigate or prevent them, I'd totally get one. That's the ONE THING that I'm worried about. Everything else I could work with.
yeah, don't like the idea of having a monitor which is slowly dying regardless of how well you babysit it, sticking with IPS
LG C2 make good monitors big but they don't burn in
Younger person that never used CRT? Guessing so. CRT burned in BADLY, OLED can burn in if you're stupid. But if you use monitor hibernation and a screen saver, it's just not going to happen outside of some edge cases of someone running a high-contrast application. Like, literally black and white for MANY hours. Spreadsheets come to mind.
Edit: Tube TV's burned in badly, too. And Plasma. 'Magine Dat!
@@MrAcuta73 I used to use crt for like 8 years xD, that's why I'm scared I guess lol
@@Harctwo I have a 65" WOLED TV. Not even the slightest worry about burn in. My girlfriend will fall asleep and leave it in menus all night. Thankfully not too often. Pixel repair in LG panels works wonders, I have to assume Samsung QD-OLED and other panels are similar.
I just wish CRT had the same functions, and it's safe to say those functions will continue to improve over time.
Funfact: you need an OLED-Monitor to view this video 😂
I watched it on the miniLED screen of my Macbook Pro.😂
Good thing samsung phones or OLed, cheeky little things😂
No, I watched it with an IPS, all the difference is clear.
@@FunctionalCollapsing me when a joke...
And its not even that wrong. If you actually wanna REALLY see the difference from this video you'd need an OLED.
As a non gamer I stick with VA until I get OLED. Which ever has the best contrast I prefer. I got a $100 Viewsonic VA and the colors are noticably better coming from cheap TN/IPS. Although I would be fine using any at this point. My phone is in 2K AMOLED so I can compromise.
I wish more people would have really hammered down the disadvantages of an IPS monitor when I was doing my research. I eventually landed on an IPS monitor and now regret it mightily. My only options now is to live with it, or sell the the IPS at loss.
Wtf happened to monitors in the last 5 years? If my old lcd monitor from 2015 didn't die, I'd still be using it. It had great black levels, decent colors, and minimal ghosting/smearing. And at a budget friendly price as well. All these monitors today have glaring downsides.
I just bought an LG gn600 24 ips 144hz and the contrast is awful. I was thinking about getting a VA panel because I prefer good colors and contrast. I would even try a 75hz because the IPS black is basically grey.
Do you know any good VA monitor 24”?
@@NegociosSemEstresse no but oddysey g7 is legit and has the best VA panel available for years. Great contrast incredible motion and cheap if you get it used.
@@guywithalltheanswers6942 Incredible motion and VA do not belong in the same sentence. To this day VA panels smear colors, especially darker ones. Combine that with the ugly hotspot contrast and tight viewing angles it's not worth it.
@@RicochetForce That's true for every VA except the new Samsung ones. Take a look at the RTINGs reviews or the hardware unboxed.
I got a LG 32GQ950 instead of an OLED monitor and don't regret it at all. But I choosed it because I use it for work and web browsing 80% of the time and maybe 20% for gaming. Meaning it would mostly have static images on it most of the day. But with that said, it's an amazing panel with good blacks for being an IPS, basicly no light bleed and very color accurate. But I still can't recommend it due to its price :(
8:58 I've searched for so long for this problem on my VA Panel and FINALLY I found a reason for it! So it's actually the VA Tech, that makes games in the dark look so frustratingly bad. Now I finally know, that I have to buy a IPA/OLED so I don't habe this problem any more. And also I finally understand the problem. Thanks!
OLED is a big no as long as they suffer from burn-ins, well, unless you're filthy rich and can easily replace your monitor every other year or 2 lol
Yeah oled is good but will never be mainstream untill the monitors hit sub 500$. Waiting for micro led seems like a good option.
Check microled prices. Astronomical figures. I think one would have to wait for a couple decades to buy microled TV
@@РустемТхагапсов I mean remember when 4k curved tvs hit the market over a decade ago?. They were over $20000 for the cheapest model but now we can get a good non curved 4k tv for less than a thousand dollars (Talking about AUD not USD as I live in Australia so can only go off of those prices). Even Oled is super expensive still but it has come down a little the cx was like $3000 now I think it's under $2000 for the same tv only what a couple years or so later. I expect that micro led will be expensive for the first 2-5 years because it will be the best and latest technology but it too will come down eventually in price.
Okay, is it just me or at 3:00 minutes and through the video, that little shitty light on the bottom of the monitor is super annoying, why do they even make those lights like that, if you are testing to see if your monitor is on, that light can be on the back, where its not gonna distract you during dark scenes
I hope they create the ultimate monitor type one day that will have all the best sides of OLED and IPS and VA monitors in it
I think they have to improve the mini-led technology
@@freddym.4296also mini-led is still in infancy so this will take many more years to come
I love to use the 4K ultra OLED monitor with 120hz than IPS because OLED is a best for movies and games 🎮. I bought the IPS monitor for my pc gaming until i will buy a best 4K ultra OLED monitor with 120hz or higher without ips
0:12 that setup is already wrong. With a monitor, such low ambient light is unaccepable. In normal lighted rooms, you can never tell the black level difference between AH-IPS, VA or OLED. You may only see a bit of backlight bleed when you peek on an IPS panel diagonally from above. For serious work, IPS is king for some years to come. I've a GB LED backlit IPS monitor (blue and green LED's with a red phosphor), and it blows anything else out of the water. OLED has much less gamut.
MicroLED will be my next technology. I have 2x 32inch 4K ips @144hz and intend to have them for many many years.
I’m split almost exactly 50/50 across gaming and productivity.
The downside from oled is that it ages quick. VA and IPS doesn’t age that quick. I prefer VA because of the good contrasts and colors and the good price.
VA is a junk. How you can get used it's awful black ghosting?
Im using an LG OLED 48" as pc monitor for 1,5 years now, and i regret nothing its soo good for gaming and everything else. Never had any green and red border effects at any time.
I have a uled va panel with 600ish local dimming zones and quantum pixels and its about as good as any oled I've seen lately. A tiny bit of bloom around very bright text on a black background like movie credits but for everything else its top notch. Certainly cost about half the price of a similarly sized oled.
What model are you using if you don't mind sharing?
@@steveteow5720 Hisense U8K. With a bit of calibration it will get near oled black levels with almost no black crush on dimly lit areas. The U8H(last years) is a bit cheaper for nearly the same visual quality but doesn't sport the Pentonic DolbyVision HDR 120hz chipset which up to now was an LG exclusive. 55" is VA and the larger sizes are IPS. The 55" VA panel is a bit better on response time and colors so is more suited as a console/pc gaming display. The larger sizes are going to be for those wishing to watch high quality streaming or video player content. A warning. These tv do not do well with low quality content and you will be disappointed if you are trying to mostly watch cable channels or other sub 1080p content. Pick a cheaper tv that caters to those inputs. But for high end video and console/pc use this tv is a no brainer purchase.
Yeh Samsung qn90a here 50 inch as a main monitor here and I really like it, however sometimes I miss black levels of oled I think. It is amazing in bright HDR scenes ofc.
The VRR flicker made me return my brand new 480 hz oled. My old IPS 165 hz may not have the deep blacks but it doesn't flicker.
Im normally sensitive to that kind of stuff but if you cap your FPS to something that your PC can maintain steadily than you'll have smoother gameplay and very little flicker only really noticeable in dark loading screens. Ive had my oled for 3 days and i don't even notice it anymore but if I did it would be worth it for the colors and no panel Glow/Backlight bleed.
I would love to switch to an oled, but I think the problem right now for us is price. We put that money into my new build a year and a half ago, so we have a more low-mid range budget on the monitor. Half the cost of my build went to a Asus 3080 strix during the shortage crisis.
I was an art major in college. I get super ocd on color accuracy too. And I need more contrast on my next monitor. Games like lotro, eso, and skyrim are hard to see at night or in caves and dungeons. So I keep the room completly dark all day to compensate.
for me it's burn in. I just don't see how an oled panel is appropriate for a computer panel
And the lack of 1080p. With game optimization as shit as it is these days 1080 is the only resolution to hit 240 fps.
For color accuracy I'd say IPS is better than VA, but for contrast VA beats IPS. My guess is you would be better off with a good VA display than a good IPS display as the difference in contrast is quite large. OLED still has better contrast, but then there's the price. The big problems with VA are viewing angle which tends to be a lot worse than on IPS, motion blur is a problem mostly in games and color accuracy where VA displays have had a problem. But good quality VA displays today have pretty good color accuracy so that might be good enough for you. Personally I'm more concerned by color accuracy, speed and viewing angles than contrast so I'm in the IPS camp.
havent watched past 0:20 yet.. but first thought: yes looks good but.. burn in danger? reaction time? blur? deep blacks are cool but nothing that i would trade for gettings theres 3 things worse. overall.. i started in the late 90s with crt. first lcd monitors were cool by design, but bad in image quality. after they got better, tn panels were the standard. nowadays, tn is old, ips still good but on its way to be replaced. thing is: its like with tires. theres no perfect for everything device to this day
Waiting for Mini LED vs OLED video as I don't think OLED is perfect specially in video processing
Nice video, it's still up for debate which monitor tech is best - probably still in that annoying situation where you'd really want 2 or 3 different screens for doing everything - although that obviously isn't really a possibility. I think I'm going to stick it out with my IPS for a while, and maybe assess the situation with OLED (or micro LED by then) in a couple of years
smart considering burn in
yeah im very happy with my Samsung G7 in general, allthough I do admit that im very intrigued by OLED, that being said, Ive heard that they are workin on improving OLED and the functions in the new gaming OLED monitors (LG, Asus etc) that wont be available until maybe 2025, so I will aim to get one by then!
no debate, IPS for daytime use and productivity , and an OLED for dark room gaming /movies.
@@armorgiraffemy last samsung monitor finally went out and im stuck between the g7 or a VA omen monitor. I dont see enough on the wider omens (32-34 inch curved) but my issue with the g7 is the space it takes up on my desk whereas the omens offer great specs and dont take up as much space.
@@LamaKING21OLED? How long did you have it for before it died?
Why is the black in the OLED monitor looking blacker than the black in the VA monitor, if I'm watching both on my VA monitor. I mean, somebody enlighten me.
If you're a gamer and don't do productivity work on your personal PC, then OLED is definitely worth it, imo. I have the Alienware AW3423DW and it is THE best upgrade (went from VA) I've made in a long time. It is amazing for gaming, truly jaw-dropping in action. I don't know how many times I've been blown away by the visuals this thing gives to games. It's an experience for sure. Definitely worth every penny for a PC gamer.
What about fps games like valorant which it doesn't support 21:9 res
I heard the black bars is bad for OLED displays do u recommend Alienware ? I play valorant and single player games and watch anime and movies
@@noone-zv3bz lol Blackbars aren’t bad for OLED the opposite actually. The 21:9 OLEDs are QD Oleds which are a bit superior to this 27 inch WOLED. If you don’t like Black Bars then id pick the 27inch one if you don’t mind and play games that support 21:9 then pick one. Monitore Unboxed has great videos on them. 42inch OLED TVs are always an option as well
@@KopfdesRiesen i play valorant a lot in the same time i cant buy the 27 lg or asus OLED cause of matte finish and HDR looks so bad so the Alienware best choice casue I also watch movies and the glossy looks siiick do u think the games will looks normal with black bars i mean fov and the stretch res
@@noone-zv3bz Hard agreed lol fuck matt screens. Dough makes one with the same panel thats glossy but they are shipping in the end of Sommer. Previous monitors are still not delivered as far as i know! I hope the monitor industry starts offering more Glossy/matte options to chose.
Monitor or Hardware unboxed reviewed the Alienware, MSI and now Samsung one with that QD OLED panel id recommend checking that out. Even tho they’ll probably all be a great choice
@@KopfdesRiesen thx bro for replying maybe ill stick with AW and later buy trash 1080p 240hz for fps lol
It's good to know that the decision in favour of an IPS panel about 5 years ago was still the right one. What is sobering, however, is that if I wanted to buy a new display today, I would get almost the same thing for my budget. Same resolution, same contrast, same panel, etc. I would get an IPS panel with more Hz. But that's about it.
Especially after such a long wait, I was hoping for a revolutionary breakthrough that would make the displays significantly better and/or significantly cheaper.
i have oled display devices but the lifespan is very low :( i got screen burn ins and after 1 half year of usage the burn ins are very visible that makes the viewing experience worst
New oled tech are much more durable my 65 inch oled C1 has no burn in after Year as a main computers screen, its only the super bright oleds that burn in fast like on phones.
Crt gang where you at?
In the 1980s
I'm quite happy to say that my Samsung S27F350 IPS monitor doesn't have any kinds of defects. There's no backlight bleed at all, only a bit of grey color visible in the dark. But what wouldn't fix it other than switching the Dynamic Contrast on? The glow is gone, but the screen gets almost pitch black when nothing bright is displayed.
This thing is 60 Hz and 1080p at this screen size... idk
@@EvolutionBG I mean, it runs at 75hz without any issues and it even gets rid of the slight inverse ghostng visible on the white colors. It's just too big for a 1080p display.
Any chance we can get our hands on a collection of these super pretty wallpapers you always manage to find?
its 2024 and we still havnt gotten good mini led monitors, i hope we get some soon as they are best solution as of now
I hope we get to see OLED without burn in in the future, as is I see OLED as insanely expensive disposable tech. Aside from money that's the only thing that's put me off of OLED. It's expensive but if it could last a long time I wouldn't have issues paying for it, at the end of the day that's the most important part of the human-computer interface. But pay 1K for something that's gonna burn in in a bit? With my gaming sessions that last up to 12 hours when I have the free time? With static HUD elements like the minimap, health, ammo, objectives, aiming reticle etc?
It doesn't precisely burn in a bit although if your 12 hour sessions were daily or so it'd take a around a couple of years to start displaying it, depending on the brand.
Rtings has some extreme burnin tests you might want to check out.
The TVs have a burn in issue more. Unless you're really overdoing it, it shouldn't be too much of a worry on a monitor. I've never gotten burn-in on my OLED phone in a long time. Also I play a lot of fps games, and you'd be lucky to always be in a match for a full 12 hours or even hour. You should be in the menus, tabbing out, etc. between matches, at least that's what I do especially when queue times are long.
@@aouyiu I don't play multiplayer games so when I play a game there's not much going through the menus and I like to see everything on the HUD so those spots are gonna be up for 4-5 hours sometimes
Iin 2012 I bought the Galaxy S3 with "Super AMOLED" and was stunned. A decade later, my new LG C2 is bringing back old and new found love! Nothing compares to the capabilities so far and it's only getting better. (this is not an employee for big oled)
I'm watching this video on a TN monitor but I can still tell how contrasty and rich the colors are on the OLED
best ips is nowhere near oled
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 even the best ips is worse than the worst oled?
@@ElsweyrDiego u have a healthy wallet, then for most aspect, bad (I can't say the worst ;v) oled > great ips. Best ips > > bad oled
@@1wc after searching a lot about TV i'm going with Miniled. no burn-in, and can choose ips model with great contrast because of local dimming!
I‘ve got a VA Panel, Freesync 75hz AOC. Never had an issue with ghosting, and the colours are amazing.
OLED Burn in really is a non issue for Movies (Most T.V. as well) and Games because the pixels will constantly be refreshed without much worry. It would take considerable effort to actually destroy an OLED while gaming or watching a movie.
only if its an woled, qdoled are very bad with burn in and thats just for tv use so l would hate to see what a pc does to them
It's a bad design though. That's like having a car made out of carbon steel with no coding. Sure if you put it in a garbage and wipe it off after it rains you'll be okay, but why take the chance?
@@bjorn1583 where does it say qd oled is bad??
@@WristWatcher there have been plenty of tests done world wide and qdled are very bad at burnin, or are you just too lazy to do any of your own research and expect everyone else to give you the answers
I swear, this is one of the best video comparison I have ever seen. Those half screen comparisons are wild. Keep up the good work!
I've bought a monitor with VA panel. I do everything, from playing games, watching mvoies to studying and graphical design. It's pretty decent technology, but the ghosting is visible and I have hard time choosing the right contrast for dark colours, because people who have IPS sees it differently. But that's just all, I think it's a good idea to go for a VA panel after all.
I much prefer VA than IPS, i love deep blacks that make the colors pop and that grey glow in IPS ruins it for me. OLED is the best but having to pay near x3 the price only to get a permanent burn in after a few months is just not worth it
@@amokana same, can't stand the ips bleeding, va is cheaper and modern VA doesn't have that annoying ghosting, at least in the monitors i have tried
@@Mafw7777
Yeah I think it highly depends on which VA panel you get. If you’re buying a cheaper monitor then I’m sure VA has lots of ghosting, but if you’re buying a pretty nice monitor they’re fine, not much difference between IPS and VA.
I got a 1440p ultrawide 144hz VA panel with 1ms response time and it doesn’t have much ghosting at all. I can’t imagine an IPS panel would be much different.
My next upgrade will hopefully be OLED in the future though.
@@amokanaBlack in the VA panel is a big lie, Nowdays a IPS or ADS panel it has the seme dark of VA panel only need few adjustments, look at this IPS without local dimming in dark scenes ua-cam.com/video/mWKtd2mrod8/v-deo.html Now look at this a VA qled panel with local dimming at full vs Oled panel in the Real Life you can see the big difference difference ua-cam.com/video/UaIwB6tkFE0/v-deo.html
@@-Burb Is any ghosting noticeable while watching movies on a VA panel? Or only for gaming?
I monitor is on 70% night mode 24/7 so it wont really matter what type i go with
It might sound stupid for some of you but i get headaches everytime i turn it off so its much better for me with it
I’ll adopt oled in a few years. I’m enjoying my dual monitor set up. Got the acer predator 240 hertz 27 inch monitors with my 13900k and 4090.
Same with me. OLED is a new a tech, so it still has issues and costs a lot. In a few years price will drop by half and most of the issues will be fixed
@@Noname-iq1gz I just ordered an OLED monitor lol a lot changes in one year
@@STKReacts hahaha that’s great. OLED screens are very beautiful but they are too expensive for me. Your rig is my dream, must be awesome to be able to play every game you want on highest graphics and resolution
@@Noname-iq1gz The sad thing is I find myself playing League Of Legends 99% of the time LMFAOOOOOOO
@@STKReacts that’s a shit game no offense
For me: Im using a 1440p144Hz IPS LCD. I put a screen-light on top. So it got much less IPS glow. Mostly the IPS glow are reflections of your room. I highly recommend this lamp.
9:56 here you can see that LC-Displays also can do better white colours.
Burn in after 7000 hours on a OLED Screen on max brightness: Not noticeable, only if you display some special full screen like at 13:46 and you have to seach the issues. Also the brightness got loss about 8%. This is the scenario if you using you monitor about 6 hours a day and after 3-4 years at full brightness.
Important is not to remove the power cord on OLED Panels. Sometimes it will heat up the pixels.
thank you for the thorough explanation. i’m researching what monitor to go for next, and this helps quite a bit 👍🏻
I have both IPS and OLED panels. I use OLED when I play single/FPS games and watching movies/UA-cam while I use the IPS when I work or play MMORPG.
Best of both worlds.
I'd love more black level detail than IPS, but for now just can't accept losing anything when it comes to text sharpness or SRGB range color accuracy. In the near future I hope to maybe find some flat VA monitor using a Samsung panel(for the speed). Otherwise I'll be stuck in 27" 1440p IPS "mediocrity". ☺️
samsung panels are among some of the worst in lcd and oled, if you have a samsung that is good you will probably find that it uses a lg screen because lg used to make all the screens for samsung (you only have to go to your nearest electronics store that has all the tvs together to see this).
ps samsung oled are also the worst when it comes to burn in
The Accer Nitro XV322QK VBMIIPHZX seems like a good option.
That's because people always compare cheap VA panels against more expensive IPS panels. I'm using cheap VA panel and just switched to a cheap HP IPS panel. And the IPS is so much worse than VA. If you want to buy VA, look at the one with 100% sRGB.
@@bjorn1583no man the latest Samsung VA panels are the bomb. They have permanently defeated the notorius ghosting effect. Right now it's only present on their high-end va panels, hopefully in the future it will reach the lower budget as well
@@adrianpaul3749 when this vid was posted samsung were the worst at ghosting so get with the times.
until the testers have shown the updated results anything you say is hearsay until proven
sadly no mention of PWM or pulse width modulation used on oled screens to set the brightness. Most people have no isdue with this underlying 'flickering' of the screen but there are more and more thst face headaches, eye strain and even feeling sick.
And sadly its only when you dtart using these oled thst you find out you are sensitive to it or not also depending on the brightness. The lowrr the more chance it may affect you.
Sadly manufactors do not inform people thst they use it and st what frequency....
This video convinced me to buy oled. Went for alienware's ultrawide DWF and it is absolutely stunning. I would like to say for anyone still on the fence that the difference is much much bigger in person than what you see on the video. The video will only give you a small taste of how big the difference is because the camera just doesn't capture the full difference in brightness, contrast and detail. When you have OLED and LCD next to each other in your room, the difference is huge. Absolutely amazing tech. In short words, it looks like you are looking straight through a window and it feels like you can touch what's on the other side. Watched Interstellar last night, wonderful experience especially in the black hole scene.
I only saw an OLED tv once in a store next to others and I almost shat myself with how amazing it looked. As you said, everything looked real, like you can touch it. Can't wait to get a monitor some day for my gaming.
@@GatsuKS Yep, I was in a hardware store and saw some big OLED tv and that's where I saw for the first time how good it looks. Absolutely worth saving up for. I recommend getting QD OLED.
This is one of the most underrated channel at youtube !
I used to play with strix 165hz 27" IPS but bought LG C1 48" OLED to try it out. The IPS is now my secondary discord monitor. The difference is like going from DVD to Bluray.
Same, I use a gigabyte 32 inch IPS 170hz as my secondary 1440p and a Gigabyte aorus 48 inch 120hz 4k OLED panel as my main. and Oled is just better in my experience. the TRUE blacks and the depth, contrast, dynamic range just outweigh any negatives. I wish I had two oleds now because when the screens are both dark from the scene i can see the backlight of the ips is glaring compared to the pitch black of oled
@@kutluarcturus12 ok stay in dark with those oled eventually i like natural light in my room ips all day and will get oled when they work more on it and get way cheap.I have oled tv and its good but not perfect in some cases
I have a VA and an IPS. Both 1ms freesync. The colors on the IPS are too perfect to ever use anything else.
Which is good for watching movies and also tell me u feel eye strain on which panel?
i bought a 4k OLED and used it for two weeks and returned it, notbeing able to just go AFK and not think about it just is a massive con for me. i want to be able to just not have to worry and go about my day. id ont want to think about using black backgrounds or close games with ui or make sure it goes ons tandby if im afk for a while. its all too much
I'm using a 1080p 75Hz IPS at the moment and since I'm just a casual gamer it gets the job done just fine and it wasn't that expensive either. I'll probably upgrade once OLED 1080p panels become available and they aren't that expensive anymore. I know that won't be soon but I feel like only that kind of upgrade would make sense for me. Getting a 144Hz 1080p feels kinda pointless, 1440p is too expensive for me especially when it comes to a PC that would output that resolution. So yeah ideally I'd stick with 1080p but OLED would definitely be a big upgrade.
By the time OLED becomes affordable I don't think people will be using 1080p anymore. Kind of like how nobody uses SD.
There are good 144hz monitors out there... e-sports grade..good price as well!!
I feel you, brother, but we can only dream of that. There's no way manufacturers are going to produce displays with premium technology and budget low-tier parameters such as 1080p resolution. They'll continue to go after the premium market segment with 4K and ridiculous refresh rates.
1440p is a goo compromise, i play on 4k and everxtime stryggel and need to get the newerst Graphik card 💳 for maximum experience. But i cant go back to FHD. The image is mor clear and collerfull and have more details. Sometimes i think about to get in the middle for better fps and lower updating rate.
I went from a 75hz to 144hz 1080p and I don't regret it one bit.
I have 2 LG OLED TVs. The first one I brought was the C1 65 inch. I used it for 5 years now, no burn in. Average 5 hrs a day for TV and Gaming. Recently, I brought a 42 inch LG C3 as a monitor to replace My old Dell S3220DGF (which with Batman logo in dark scenes). It is night and day difference. No more backlight bleed, HDR is great. 800 mits brightness in HDR mode. I can use this TV in a bright room. The only one thing I don't like about it was when over half of the screen is white then it dimmed the brightness. Otherwise everything else is amazing.
Great videos, best explaining the real advantages and disadvantages of those panel technologies. Thx for the job done.
Great video, thank you.
Personally, I sum up my stance on monitors like this:
Watching movies is best on OLEDs.
Office work (especially reading / writing text and working on spreadsheets) is best on LCDs, with VA being preferable if you have a lot of black backgrounds, and IPS being preferable if you mainly have white backgrounds.
Gaming is best on high-end CRT monitors (if you can find one, which is getting more and more difficult & expensive).
Very cool, straight forward comparison test, thank you for making it👍
watching stock footage on my current monitor made me realize how much I appreciate it...
As a casual FPS/Racing gamer and pretty big media consumer I recently switched from my 32” LG IPS gaming monitor for a 42” LG C2 OLED TV and I have no regrets, the little bit of effort to stop burn-in is worth having the AMAZING movie experience.
I have C2, but it's just too big for office use. I put it now in my living room only for TV use.
the LG woleds dont have burn in issues (yet)
@@bjorn1583 I never said they did, but being proactive about it will further reduce the likelihood of burn-in on my TV.
@@ShawnStrickland the LG does it every time you turn them off so no need to do it yourself unless you dont turn it off
@@bjorn1583 pixel shift, logo brightness dimming is run when the monitor is off?? Pixel cleaning is only 1 burn-in protection
The brightness point is kinda funny, cause if you're one of those people that keep there IPS brightness at 33-50% (like I used to be), then you won't really feel the difference going to OLED.
I have been considering though putting my 4k IPS with mini-LED backlight on a monitor arm next to my ultrawide QD-OLED, specifically for web browsing, whatsapp and discord, because it displays text SO crisp, and then keep my games and media on the OLED.
I'm happy with my IPS. I tried switching to a VA, but switched back because I didn't like the motion blur. I'm not using OLED on a desktop system until they fix the burn-in issue.
lg panels dont have that issue (yet) samsung panels are the ones with all the burn in (samsung, sony and phillips use the samsung panels that l know of)
@@WristWatcher I wouldnt touch anything made by dell
One thing missing here is the color reproduction. How accurate are the colors. For creatives such as photo editors, video editors, graphic designers, etc.
Great video. Really nicely explained differences with great examples to show what the differences really look like. :)
i have been using 4k OLED tv as monitor for years i had the LG C8, the LG CX and now the samsung s95b and never had a problem with burn in, i do keep the brightness low because my room is dark and also never leave the tv on if im not using it.
I heard some people say that OLED in FPS games with dark areas could make enemies a little bit harder to identify in the environment (Known as black crush), have you experienced anything similar to this?
Another thing, have you noticed that bright scenes with no dark backgrounds can look better in the IPS? Do the colors pop up more for one screen or another? Thank you for sharing your detailed experience.
因为IPS屏幕亮度比oled屏幕更高，所以明亮的场景IPS显示效果更好，只是IPS没有很高的对比度。
No one of this monitors is better than my Sony FW-900 CRT... :D
I have all 3 panel types and I agree with your assessment. While oled is the best/my favorite for image quality. I found out real quick that what i thought wasn't a particularly bright room was still overpowering the screen during the day, va is basically an all a rounder/jack of all trades but master of none type. It is really close to oled for sdr with good contrast and gets plenty bright for daytime viewing (why I use it for my main content display during the day), but the backlight bleed/haloing is very noticable in the dark, and ips is better for off angle with great pixel response(better than va for games) while also having the brightness of lcd.
What would you think about a mini-LED VA?
@@stanislavkimov2779 I'm not really the one to ask as I don't have mini led. There are tons of reviewers who know better than me as they have used them and do it for a living. Though I'd imagine the same would hold true to what's been said, just to a different degree (backlighting of any kind will have some haloing just due to it still being backlit and oled with it's individual pixel lighting will always win out there, as for brightness it's probably going to be best)
Would you pick the oled over an ips panel for gaming? The Asus oled 240hz looks like a good product and even better (ms).
@@TheOnlyleroy yes
So i dont game at all, i just need a bigger monitor from my 34 inch basic IPS ultra wide for productivity. What do you recommend.
Oled will be perfect for planned obscolescence... throw out your monitor after 2-3 years max because it's dimmed to hell by now and have permanent burn-in elements from GUI or HUD
Bei 9:54 min, die 243 nits mögen vielleicht auf den Monitor zutreffen, den sie hier testen, allerdings trifft das in dem Fall nur auf ihren getesteten OLED Monitor zu.
Ich besitze 2x Alienware 3423DW Monitore, diese haben bis zu 1.000 Nits.
Ich damit keinerlei Probleme mit offenen Fenster zu Spielen/zu Arbeiten.
Warum zeigen sie nur die Kontrastverhältisse von VA und IPS?
Weil OLED im Vergleich zu hoch ist?
Es gibt nur 1 Problem das OLED im Vergleich zu den anderen hat, Einbrenneffekt.
Aber selbst ein Einbrenneffekt stört ich weniger als die Hintergrundbeleuchtung von VA und IPS und das Grau... das kein schwarz ist.
Not that I didn’t know what you showed but an excellent video nevertheless. A comparison of OLED and IPS/VA miniLED would be most welcome. Very solid work!
Personally i would consider an OLED IF the burn in issue would be solved. Especially on pc/windows with alot of static stuff especially on the second screen. So i'll still stick to the IPS Team.
It will never be solved, that's the problem. The reason being is that all lights will change their output over time to varying degree's. Even LCD backlight brightness degrades with time, but since it's one light, every pixel is still uniform in brightness, so you don't notice, you just tick the brightness up a bit more for the same brightness. But since OLED's are millions of individual lights, they will always be degrading at different rates, depending on what each pixel displays over its life. In order to get rid of backlight bleed, they would have to design a completely new panel type. The funny thing is the successor to OLED, will likely be LCD.
All you really need is better control over the way the liquid crystal allows light to pass through. If they could come up with a design that is capable of blocking all light, while also capable of better filtering colors for vibrancy and brightness, you'd essentially have OLED performance in an LCD. But they'd also need to be able to do this at a fast rate. For OLED it's as simple as a voltage change and the pixel gets brighter or darker, for LCD, the pixel itself needs to physical alter its internal structure to change what light it allows through, which takes more time.
Technically we could have those LCD's right now, they'd just be more power hungry, since you could create more layers to block light, while also increasing the backlight brightness to increase overall brightness of lit up pixels. So you'd have OLED vibrancy, but it's be like 4 times the energy cost. So energy efficiency targets play a big role in why LCD's are limited. And that's why OLED is the tech that is considered favored, because of its energy efficiency. So we could have better looking monitors without OLED, but because of government meddling, no one even considers designing such a monitor with LCD, because the government would come down on them for being less efficient. And that is why we're stuck with OLED.
It's even possible now to make flat screen CRT's. But again, that would be an energy hog, so they simply don't do it.
Tried OLED once, frustrated me after a year when the burn in kick in. Color reproduction is so good for my work, but spending another $1000 every 2 3 years, hurts me more in the long run.
My IPS laptop got a burn-in after just 3 years. Maybe it's less likely to happen on IPS but you're not safe from it even outside of OLED.
@@Diwasho Yup I got burned in on IPS too for my home PC. But at $400 difference, I probably should have bought 2 of those.
@@Diwasho Maybe but it's not common at all on lcd screens. I have a 7 year old ips that has been on for 10+ hours every single day without any burn in on it at all and another screen that is at least 5 years old that has been on for a lot of time too with no issue.
I recently bought a Dell G2724D and I'm more than happy with it. One of the cheapest 2560x1440p IPS monitors but still has nvidia g-sync, 165 Hz on DisplayPort, 99% sRGB range, HDR (basic quality), and 1ms response time all for $250 (MSRP $300, I believe)!! It doesn't have super customizable settings but has all the fundamentals and, even then, a bit more
oled is still too expensive thats the issue
Oled is only worth when you play games or watch videos. I use more office stuff and some gaming that’s why I used IPS and for movies etc. I have my Oled tv.
First thing I do on my monitors, is turn down brightness. Most of them are turned way up by default and look washed out. I have a Samsung QLED 49" ultrawide monitor. The brightness was set to 60 and when loading white web pages is nearly blinding. I turned that down to 30 and everything is so much more natural looking. I used to do the same thing on my LG IPS monitors as well. Manufacturer's want colors to 'pop' when you see their monitors and their default settings are not good for general everyday usage but rather, are for super bright retail environments.
Samsungs come out the box brighter than other brands and is why they burn out faster
@@loganjackson3892 My LGs had the same issue. Turned brightness down about 1/2.
@@Toutvids lg owns the oled patent and makes Samsung and vizio’s panels Samsung sets the settings from there.