The Limits of Meta: Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers Review
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The "ugly sonic" thing really bugs me because even if it can avoid copyright due to parody, you know Disney would NEVER allow another company to do that to them. It's a company laughing at another for making a mistake it later fixed due to fan backlash even though Disney never fixes theirs.
There''s no way paramount did not agree to this.
Disney gave Ugly sonic an small chractaer development, they actually did them a favor and now many people love ugly sonic
Yeah that's the main thing that irks me about it too. It'd be one thing if it was done with permission, but Disney is notoriously abusive of copyright law, it feels like it lacks a lot of self-awareness coming from them (not the only thing in this movie to have that problem). It bothers me even more that since he has an actual role in this movie, several people are checking it out ONLY because they heard that. Ugly sonic's appearance is essentially free advertising for this thing, and as far as we can tell it's an unlicensed parody :/
Dale's CG design looks pretty good imo. Certainly better than Chip and the other rangers' spoofed 2D
Yeah
Let's be honest, when it comes to A LOT of the Disney Afternoon lineup, we don't remember next to anything about the shows. However, we know those theme songs by heart!
Truth
I disagree. Whenever I'm reminded that Gargoyles existed, suddenly reams of lore unfold in my my head. In addition to its kickass opening.
Does Gargoyles count?
@@kennethsatria6607 Gargoyles was one of the best shows of my childhood.
Not at all, I remember most of it through 2000 reruns.
Fun fact, the DIDNT get an agreement for ugly sonic. It is based on parody law and the director literally refuses to iterate on it in fear of saying to much and giving grounds for a lawsuit
I’m glad you referenced what actually happened to Robert “Bobby” Driscoll. He was bullied for doing the movie “Peter Pan” and then bobby got addicted to drugs because he wanted to belong somewhere, but drugs made things worse. Disney could have helped him and he did do more films; but sadly, he passed away alone.
Also I’m glad you included Anne Marie from all dogs go to heaven, cause when I read that story, I couldn’t even believe that it happened to the actress.
What happened to her?
@@dominicdelligatti Her dad killed her and her mom, then killed himself
@@dominicdelligatti in short her dad murder her
Damn
Yeah she was also ducky.
chip & dale is less like disney showing what they own but Disney showing what their going to own
Fuck that
They are going to buy ugly sonic 😱😱😱
@@apairofglasses775 They own 20th century fox, they already technically own him
@@slithra227 The Sonic movie (and presumably the "Ugly Sonic" design) are owned by Paramount.
Meta's kinda bad when you're making fun of others' animation whilst yours looks like shit.
@@IllusiveDev There's an entire joke about making fun of Zemeckis' Motion Capture stuff... and Chip doesn't look too different tbh. Aside from not going the "hyper-realistic" route, he looks just as cheap.
I love how we basically had the same experience when it came to this film. Grew up with the show, had no interest in the film, good reviews spark my morbid curiosity, actually ended up kinda enjoying the film.
Begone Bots!
Why are there so many bots?
The film was so boring,except the parts with sonic
@@hinamatsuro1908 I can understand where you're coming from, I probably only enjoyed it because I was with a friend, but it was still a good time for me nonetheless.
I thought it was really good and really wonder why nobody else dosent
When the writers of the movie needed self-awareness the most, they just ignored the whole issue with the Peter Pan thing. That ruins the movie for a lot of people and I completely understand that
So…Roger Rabbit is still a better cross-over/animation than still there? …welp to be fair it’s animation was directed by Richard Williams and that man was one the best animators who has existed in history
Not as good as Roger Rabbit but still a solid and fun movie in it's own right imo.
3D animation may be cheaper and easier, but traditional animation will always be something truly magical.
Roger Rabbit still holds up to this day, some visual glitches aside. This "comeback" (*cashgrab) is just asking to be forgotten.
@@reasyrandom this movie is definitely not a cashgrab-
@@reasyrandom I don't feel it's a crash grab, and I think it went directly to disney+. I know Roger rabbit it's classic for many, but it honestly doesn't feel miles better than this one. Just somewhat better.
@@cozyhome297 It’s a ‘plus sub to Disney plus’ grab
Honestly, I would've been completely on-board with this, if only it was it's own original IP instead of banking on a nostalgic property.
That's what made Roger Rabbit work: It's based on a book that uses completely original characters (obviously, the author couldn't get the rights to mainstream stuff) and thus you can actually look at the story as its own thing.
Same thing with Wreck-It Ralph, if they actually used real video game characters in major roles, people would've gotten pissed if Mario was portrayed as a bad guy or Sephiroth was a genuine hero who loves to play with kittens.
That's what makes this movie fall apart. If you don't hate the RR acting out of character, you will hate the other cartoons not being themselves. Sweet Pete really should've been a completely original villain, as much as I dislike Peter Pan myself, the idea of taking his real life voice actor's life story and using it as an excuse for his villainy is just... gross.
Honestly, I'm in the train of people who think this could have been a Bonkers movie and no one would mind.
The whole show is basically about down-on-their-luck toons and he doesn't become a cop until he retires from showbiz.
@@eatatjoes6751 Bonkers is the only character they could have made this about that wouldn't have been interchangable.
@@DoctorPhileasFragg Exactly, but nope, it's Chip and/or Dale.
I had the exact same thought about Bonkers while watching this movie actually! Funny I wasn't the only one thinking this.
I heard some say that Oswald would've been a way better villain. He's old, he's been thrown out, abandoned and forgotten by Disney. Oswald making reboots would make more sense than suddenly tossing in Peter Pan as the villain just because of a voice actor.
I dunno, I think I really prefer the J.K. Simmons cop being the villain instead of the rookie and just being like "To hell with your twists, I'm predictable as fuck and it's your fault for falling for it".
I mean there’s a Winnie the Pooh horror film coming soon so anything’s possible
For me the downside of meta humour, is that it is mostly a list of nostalgic icons, some are fresher than others. It basically becomes a dad joke, told over and over again, hence the fatigue the audience will experience, while others may laugh at the presence of nostalgic references, I look and see them as cynical, so instead I will enjoy those references in their original context, for I do not need the film to relive my memories for me.
Yes, crossovers just became too commercial to be enjoyable.
The shock factor is also dying because of the overuse
Don't say stupid things.
@@mirkohoble No.
It also makes you realize man I just want to see these characters in a new movie or tv show instead of just a where’s Waldo in the background like just make a new movie with them
I hate that humour now is just meta. There are no jokes.. its just.. hey look its xxx haha look its xxx..
Honestly, watching it, its not really funny.. because it doesn’t have any real comedy.. its just meta meta meta.
The problem was that it wasn’t meta enough. Like they were satirical but also still glorifying Disney at the same time, and that doesn’t work. The jokes also just aren’t funny so that doesn’t help
If there's one company that does not get to make fun of others' animation it's Disney
The Bobby Driscoll thing really kills any curiosity I had. It's genuinely uncomfortable to see them exploiting the story of a dead child actor they exploited in life. Even if it was born of ignorance, that doesn't speak well to the quality of satire.
@@gota7738 If you can't handle a bit of dark humor that has a sad but important message about the state of Hollywood then I guess the movie isn't for you.
@@IllusiveDev Not a huge loss, tbh.
@@IllusiveDevFair, I guess I just don't have that kind of depth of insight.
Driscoll would surely have taken great comfort in knowing that Disney got to make more money off alluding to having treated him badly using one of his characters, and then sending said character to jail.
"Is meta Always Bad?"
Not always. Just when Disney does it. Theirs is the most bland boring and vanilla kind. "Yo, look at all the crap we own. Some of our storytelling tropes are dumb, amirite audience?" This is 100% of what this movie's "meta" boils down to.
I thought Chip N Dale is Disney produced?
Hit the damn nail on the head. I was wondering why Ralph Breaks The Internet wasn't doing it for me in that end, and then I just realized it wasn't really a joke. It's just Disney stating facts and events they would actually do if they could. Not surprising the Kylo Ren spoiled child joke got cut, because that would require Disney make fun of themselves without finding a way to make themselves look good too.
Because meta and self-awareness also requires some degree of self-critique. Disney can't do self-critique; the brand doesn't allow it.
"Ha ha, princesses singing is dumb"
[Princess sings without a shred of irony]
The fact that Ugly Sonic could be considered the highlight of the movie is wild.
You say that the uncanny valley the 2D characters fell into was a budget issue, but here's the thing: Arc System Works has handily proven that you can make 3D models look like 2D characters and have it look _good._ That, for me, makes it more of a time/talent issue. Imagine a version of this movie where they were able to pick the brains of the ArcSys anmation team, or even manage to get some of their talents to work on this as a collaboration.The budget wouldn't have gone up nearly as much as actually using 2D animation would have made it, AND it would have looked so much better.
yeah, that and the amount of 2D animated characters in the backgrounds doesnt make it seem like a budgetary issue in the slightest, ESPECIALLY with ALL the IP's they attatched to this movie.
Having a movie where the 2D characters are 2D EXCEPT the 2D main character who is 3D cel-shaded feels like the most "what in fuck" decision you could possibly make.
i thought it was laziness but no, most of the animation is anything but, what the hell was the decision behind making the entire Rescue Rangers cast 3D?
fuck why is chip so hot.
Disney's practically an empire now. They can do whatever they want. The problem is, they're so greedy and soulless that they're pumping out as much product as they can to pander to people who don't care enough about animation to take off their nostalgia goggles long enough to see the garbage they're being fed. They might not have talent anymore, but that's only because they choose not to.
Man I thought this one was gonna be way worse. Maybe my expectations were just so low that anything coulda cleared em. But I didn’t hate every second of this and quite enjoyed enough of the film that I can actually see how I woulda made it better instead of just brushing the whole film off as garbage.
So that… that’s good I guess.
Don't say stupid things, the movie is pretty good.
I liked live action sonic sorry it’s perfect unironically I came to love it and other people to
Right 😭 I went into it knowing it was a bit silly and just watched to enjoy the experience, and I ended up liking the movie!
I dont think the film is bad, just...
The og sonic dude...
Sonic fans overwhelmingly like the live action movies- were you not aware of the hype for Sonic 2 and the potential for a 3rd? It was just mostly the first design of Sonic fans did not appreciate and for good reason.
Well yeah, in a movie where his appearance is played for laughs - yeah it's great. But if that was the sonic that ended up in the first sonic movie, that movie franchise would've been dead on arrival.
@@MrConredsX I mean it came before the rescue ranger movie so I don't even know how you'd....
"How the f*ck did Disney get SEGA to agree to this."
That's the neat part. They didn't.
The writers just put it in and hoped SEGA wouldn't care.
they got lucky, SEGA is so laidback the games are falling apart again.
Disney will have thorns in its ass if it dared to touch Mario.
@@YWNBAW69 I swear, Disney has been a bully for quite a while now. The difference between WB and Disney is that at least WB is very obvious while Disney pretends that its your friend.
I kind of want Disney to touch Mario so Nintendo can sue Disney out of existence. Is that a bad thing?
@@robbyrhodes4572 Nope. I don’t even want Disney to even go near Mario. Mario may have Sora join Smash, but Mario would make a double agent out of him to attack the company from the inside out.
@@YWNBAW69 They had pikachu's tail in this chip and dale movie though
Honestly, I think they actively decided to keep Gadget the same because she is pretty much the only character in the series (and possibly the entire Disney Afternoon lineup) that changing would have resulted in acts of terrorism by her followers.
Yeah they were safe there
Odd how they never made a Minus Garfield reference
Plus they did change her. She was never interested in romance in the original series and then they made her fuck the fly
@@slithra227 Zipper was also like... closer to a pet or a little brother to the Rangers. Yikes...
@@reasyrandom okay but this is just his character. You do realise that the actors aren't bond to that?
This is a great parody of two cast members being together after the show ends. Can be viewed on many examples
@@slithra227 Which is hilarious. Coomers should be mocked at every opportunity
The best scene in this movie was the fight with the claymation character. It was the only time when the movement and capabilities of a character took full advantage of the unique animation style.
Ironic how the cel shading is considered more uncanny valley than the cgi it poked fun at.
I think Kiki Layne's acting feels weird because she has ZERO scenes with actual humans to interact with.
What's awkward is that they didn't even TRY to be meta wth Gadget, it's just the writing staff said "Eh, we'll just make her married and just have her character be played as straight and safe as possible."
Like...they didn't really try at all with her.
If they made Monty a down and out cheese addict, I was expecting Gadget to be a bitter ex-member of the cast. I was expecting something along the lines of showing a clip of Gadget on The View flogging a tell-all book about the toxic work environment on the show created by Chip and Dale's constant simping for her.
When all the trailers and promo materials didn't mention what she was up to in the present, I was thinking Gadget was a major plot point that they didn't want to spoil. But no, they just couldn't be asked to give her an arc.
At least something about the Russian cult. Or if it was that she was married, you could have done a meta joke about her being married to Clarice the chipmunk, Pinky or Brain for cross-studio celebration, or about a hundred other characters/actors than Zipper.
No kidding, there could have been a gold mine to pick about commentary of characters in old Saturday morning cartoons (and even some cartoons now) that have a female main character have "girl" be their main defining character. I haven't watched RR but I'm going to wager a wild guess Gadget falls into that at least a little bit.
But then again maybe Disney didn't want to go there because then they'd have to joke about themselves and realize they did that.
@@Raziel312 Yeah, that's a big yikes from me, like...she's the most popular character of the show and giving her nothing to do just reeks of them being lazy. You mean to tell me this movie fully goes hard on the meta humor, but when it's with Gadget, they got stumped? They took more effort just getting OG Movie Sonic than anything with Gadget.
@@gregvs.theworld451 Well, honestly, I think Gadget fell into the neurodivergent character than the girl character slot as a lot of her plotlines dealt with her either thinking outside of the box or not appreciating social norms
Yes, she got dolled up every time the team needed a femme fatale, but she was rather self sufficient qs a character on her only rather than being "Chip, only a girl".
I honestly think the premise of a modern day Roger Rabbit, where all these different animated characters from different mediums and types of animation are living in the same society together and are essentially actors in their own films is really cool. And honestly I think that’s just about the only thing I got out of this one. Idk, I think this film just leaned a bit too hard into the references, cameos, and meta humor, whereas I think if it focused on original characters like Roger Rabbit did it’d be better off for it. Also this film has literally no good reason to be a “Chip & Dale” movie. Also also for a film about celebrating different styles of animation to have animation of very inconsistent and unintentional low quality is, not a great look.
Not even a minute into the video but I just gotta say..... I never knew that Chip and Dale were brothers.
I just thought they were best friends that lived together
If they really wanted to go meta with gadget, they could have mentioned the actual cult there is for her.
Though not sure how many people need or should know about that.
I still think it's nostalgia bait until they do something innovative with the characters and set up interesting plot lines or interactions. Also you can't ignore the double standards when it comes to Disney being meta 🤷🏻♀️
As much as I hated the original design of Sonic for the movie, I also really wanted to see that Sonic in the movie. Granted, the movie would have been a dumpster fire, but I wanted to know if they had the balls to go through with it. When they released the new better design, I was disappointed but also happy. I had mixed feelings.
Oh no they couldn't use the old sonic design itself. That's why they changed it a little a called him ugly sonic.
So they call out cliches right before doing the cliche. As Yahtzee once said when video games do this: "If you know what you're doing is wrong, why do you do it anyway?!"
Little bit but not really
It's self-referential humor. It's why games like Undertale with a literal tutorial where they hold your hand is fine. It all comes down to execution. Because as funny as you think your joke is, it still has to land.
I liked this movie, tho I understand why some people don’t. It almost felt like Disney was flexing their power and showing off that they can buy multiple characters from other film companies. They also took a lot of shots at other film companies, but never had the humility to make fun of themselves. Disney certainly has its flaws, but they believe they’re the Messiah of animation.
Because it's so hard to watch
Now we need a documentary about the legal team of this film.
I'm still wondering hi did they get Mr natural in this movie
it's disappointing to hear Gadget isn't in it much. She was my favorite character.
"they repeat the teeth joke into the ground"- I disagree don't ever, ever, ever, let them forget; let it be a dark mark on the collective memory so that out of touch execs listen carefully to fans and loving animators.
Meta storytelling CAN work if it's not overdone and irritating.
When the script constantly references some obscure details about the franchise in an attempt at making the audience react in one form or another it's just badly done. The constant winking towards the camera just feels insulting.
Self referencial humour should be short, quick and poigniant and not a drawn out annoyance.
A movie wich is pretty meta without being garbage would probably be Galaxy Quest, wich is a meta commentary on the Star Trek franchise and fandom without being insulting to the audience's intelligence and actually quite wholesome.
I honestly think instead of this the RR movie should've just been a straight forward adventure. After all, the series was originally supposed to be a "Rescuers" show and while the original movie is pretty lame the 90s sequel was actually fairly solid so I have no doubt the general format and concept would've worked well as a blueprint for a Chip'n'Dale movie.
Also, instead of wasting their copious amounts of money on something like this Disney should get their shit together and hire Greg Weissman so they can bring back Gargoyles. That show was dope.
I think at least one person making this movie was really happy to be there
I do remember watching CHIP AND DALE: RESCUE RANGER as a kid, but I prefer watching DARKWING DUCK because I felt like CHIP AND DALE: RR episodes are a lot longer than they are. Ironically enough in the new DUCKTALE show they did do a episode about nostalgia and reboot that explore the theme better in my opinion.
No.
The Ducktales reboot was, unironically, the best show of the past decade.
Disney actually DOES own the rights to Sora, oddly enough. They own all of the original characters in Kingdom Hearts.
I hate whatever that animation style is that is clearly 3D, but cell-shaded to look like 2D. Beastars managed to get away with it, and I tolerated The Dragon Prince in spite of it.
Oh, you don't hate it, it's just mostly done badly. It takes a lot of effort is the problem, and no one wants to put it in.
I didn't like it in The Dragon Prince either but Zelda manages it brilliantly.
@@gaybatgosqueak I feel like (at least botw) Zelda is more "slightly sad watercolor landscape come to life" but I also very much agree with you
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I'd say Jim's performance as Eggman saved the francise, but yeah, the rework of Sonic was *NEEDED.*
Never grew up with Rescue Rangers, so basically went into the movie knowing nothing. Really enjoyed it despite that, and it was a lot of fun noticing Easter eggs throughout.
Making Ugly Sonic a character and not just a cameo was also entertaining to watch, and was actually quite endearing with him making the best of a bad situation. Only things about the movie I didn’t like was the writing for the deputy, her performance was very wooden to put it mildly, and it doesn’t help she was supposed to play the role of a super fan, but failed to show actual enthusiasm that didn’t feel corny or forced. Some of the jokes like the cartoon rap were also quite forced and didn’t flow very whale. Despite that though it was a very entertaining movie that blended 2D, 3D and the real world remarkably well.
I'd think in that world logically ugly Sonic would just be 'surgically' fixed to be in the Sonic movies we know now but of course that would be less interesting
@@Bundalaba Presumably easier to start fresh with a new 3D model than to alter the old 3D model, especially since he was textured and rigged when they had to start-over and the proportions were very different. Realistically speaking, Dale getting 3D surgery and any of them growing up doesn't make an ounce of sense without explaining how iterations of the same character work and how some Toons (like Baby Herman) stop aging so I get where you're coming from. Either 3D Dale should be a new character or Ugly Sonic should just be Sonic now. I can accept there being different "people" filling in the roles but it really needs to be consistent somehow. lol I never thought of this while watching the movie though.
Yeah I immediately suspected the clay police chief but then the red herring of the deputy got me because I'm sure she was doing her best and it just didn't quite work (or the director was intentionally working against her to sell the red herring moment IDK.)
I did consider that maybe Ellie just never considered what was her actual favorite before it became a plot point or maybe her favorite didn't really include Dale that much so she was trying to be kind by not outing Gadget as her favorite character lol. I'd legit have to look up episode names, which I did a few months before watching the movie because I was responding to someone else. I couldn't pick a fave mostly because I haven't rewatched it in years but I remembered loving when Gadget goes to Hawaii and meets her doppelganger, the spy parody to make Dale feel better where Gadget dresses sexy, and the Cola Cult is just so danged memorable (relatively speaking because I forgot it was the other rat who turned out to be the "true" villain of the episode) and it explores how we respond to failure. I can't remember anything else featuring Dale other than Foxglove because I liked the chipmunks but I watched the series for Gadget mostly. My bi/pan appreciation was in its infancy (hence why I also remember Foxglove lol. It helps she had a heel face turn in her first episode.)
I also only remember the pilot arc for how they all met and the two squirrel sisters but just barely. It doesn't help that female characters were underrepresented in animation a lot back then so I focused on any of them unless they were extremely boring to me. And any character who had remotely Non-Binary or other LGBTQ+ vibes was an immediate fave, so I loved the villains unless they were super straight or extremely ugly or also bored me lol. (Edit: unfortunately, that would be most of the Rescue Ranger baddies to be honest. They were never that fun and exciting either. I only really vaguely recall Fat Cat and the bald scientist dude. Darkwing had some of the best baddies.)
My favorite Easter Egg btw was Blacksad dressed up as Samurai Jack at the end (unless he was supposed to be dressed up as Usagi Yojimbo... Either way, it was an amusing knock-off combo and hot.) :D
The faux 2D looks kinda like a bad Vtuber
it's weird, cause there's actual 2D in the movie and it seems to only be the non-main characters
Did this movie make fun of the Walt Disney's frozen head myth? I feel like it would have.
Nope.
Honestly, having watched the movie it’s safe to say that it’s a fun time to sit down and watch.
The story is pretty basic but the comedy does make up for it in a pretty good way. The cameos and references are there but don’t overtake the screen (except ugly sonic but that’s hilarious)
I think the only minor grudge would be the fact that Dale was the one who screwed over everyone and everyone is too forgiving except Chip because… let’s be honest Chip really cared for Dale from the very beginning and Dales excuse for thinking he didn’t care doesn’t hold up when the movie has moments before the break up where Chip cares for Dale despite the dumb decision.
But eh that’s a minor gripe, go watch the movie you’ll have a good time!!
Enjoyed the movie surprisingly! Also, I love Kiki Layne and her acting in other movies is amazing but OH MY GOD you are right, she felt so off in this film. I agree, I think it was the script and other variables.
Heads up on those wondering about the all dogs go to heaven image.
The voice actress was a young girl named Judith Barsi. About a year before All Dogs Go to Heaven, she was killed by her father in a double murder-suicide. She was only 10.
What I hate about this movie is how it paints Disney as the creator of The Little Mermaid, Peter Pan, Aladdin and other Stories that were considered classics way before Disney turned them into a movie. It reminds me of when they tried trademarking Dia de Los Muertos and freaking greek mythology.
I think what the movie needed was more meta jokes. Because it mocks generic live action reboots while being a generic live action reboot. It's like it lacks self awareness. It's so confusing. There are sp many cliches I thought it was on purpose but no, it was part of the plot and we were supposed to take it seriously.
Despite having references to almost every Disney/Dreamworks property you can think of (and yes even Ugly Sonic), there’s no references to one of the more recently popular Disney series like The Owl House or Amphibia, which is still a shame.
TOH and Amphibia are too good for this movie anyway, they deserve better.
On the flipside, if the recent animations there would be included... The Voltron booth would probably update along with it.
We do not need to experience Voltron in 2022. I can just hear the groans from the hell gate.
... Said by someone who used to be a loving fan. Aaa, don't get me even started.
It's not a shame. I just know they would've ruined those too.
Honestly I think it was Paramount saying yes when they saw the money because honestly that would explain the South Park cameo that was just thrown in for free
I appreciate your more nuanced takes cuz to be real most people just see shiny novel funny movie and bow down to their distraction overlord 10/10 perfect cuz it gave them a cheap chuckle. This is fine but its fucking milquetoast Disney shit with an IrOnIc edge. Watch Roger Rabbit for the real sincere ToonTown of course
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Actually, and very unfortunately, Disney owns Kingdom Hearts in its entirety. Sora might feel out of place, but he’s their property…. If Disney wanted, they could cut Square off and have any gaming company make Kingdom Hearts games.
It was better than it should have been that's for sure. Really the only issue I have with it is the animation. When you poke fun at animation styles you should try to make sure they are good as well.
My main issue is how they didn’t actually engage with it. You have a 2D & CG duo with a where’s Waldo of animation deep cuts and in-jokes, but it’s almost all superfluous to the plot.
Rather than having the characters be kidnapped and turned into bootlegs, they could have had them willingly turn into CG remakes because they don’t want to be forgotten.
That way the story is about frozen nostalgia VS out of touch updates and the style and substance properly meshes.
At this point if you strip away the Rodger Rabbit aspect you’re left with a forgettable buddy cop celebrity kidnapping story that’s been done to death.
I really enjoyed the new Chip N Dale film, it was fun to watch i especially loved all of the easter eggs and cameos made by non-Disney characters in the movie even Roger Rabbit in fact even though it was never confirmed i for one like to think that the realities between Roger Rabbit and Chip n Dale take place within the same universe which i guess they pretty much do otherwise you know.
All the Gadget fans are going to be pissed when they find out who she ended up with.
Hell I ain’t a fan and I was confused like “bro, what, seriously!?”
Hit me with spoiler
@@Hanmacx Spoilers...
Zipper
@@mirkohoble oh that explains the recent rule34
@@mirkohoble The Easter Bunny from ACNH?
In our household, Disney Channel might as well have not existed. I grew up in a strict Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network household. That said, now that I have Disney +, big chunks of the Disney Afternoon (including the Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers cartoon) are on my to watch list.
I had a big chunk of Warner Brothers cartoons growing up myself.... 😄
Ok, I’m glad I’m not the only one who had mixed feelings on this film. I loved the animation references and constant gags, but the plot was terrible. Also, the lead cop character’s acting was OUTSTANDINGLY bad. And there were moments where “Sweet Pete” just looked a little off because it was clearly a dude in a suit with a digitized head and hands?? But he’s part of the “Uncanny Valley Gang” so that made it ten times funnier? I would definitely watch it again, because I laughed out loud on several accounts and genuinely enjoyed it. But I can’t call it a good movie, much less a successor to Who Framed Roger Rabbit (because that would be an insult to Roger).
I agree... But I just watched it and am thinking about watching it again, it's like addictive to me, nothing stands out, the nostalgia bait is very obvious, it's like all meta jokes, and yet ai want more of it.
It kind of made sense who the villain was seeing as what happened to their original voice actor in the past.
They did this man dirty and then made it a meta joke.
@@altejoh yeah… it was a bit in bad taste tbh.
Ah come on guys, can't you handle a little dark humor? I think it's a good thing to point out the terrible and tragic things that happen in Hollywood and without this movie pointing it out barely anyone would even know about the tragedy that occurred with the actor. It's a sad but necessary message.
@@IllusiveDev dark humour is fine and all, but it does not seem in good taste for a film under *Disney* branding to be drawing parallels between a character and his actor whose life was ruined by Disney. If it was any other company that had their name on this film, your argument would work, but when it's Disney, it's *really* bad taste
@@Subpar1O1 idk for me the fact that none of the people working at Disney at the time still work there for obvious reasons. If the parallel was intentional, I see it more like they're taking the piss out out of earlier selves for treating him poorly back in the day. I just doubt there was evil intentions behind the inclusion in this film but hey I could be wrong I'm human.
Shit this is actually fascinating how it succeeds in some aspects and fails in others.
I genuinely don't know if I wanna watch this or not
This whole movie is much-like how SOUTH PARK once said “Member this” -Member Berries.
It's nothing that deep but it's definitely a fun movie with a lot of easter eggs, worth at least 1 watch especially if you already have Disney +.
There's a scene in the movie where a character literally looks at the screen and says "remember that stuff?". I think that's all you need to know before considering to watch this movie.
9:18 CELL SHADING! EXACTLY! i was already wondering why i got borderlands vibes from the animated characters
So, do you want to know?
They didn't have to pay jack for Ugly Sonic's design. Apparently,a s long as his red shoes were out (as those are trademarked) Sega and Paramount were fine to let Disney use it with no charge.
I couldn't help but groan at the fact his joke was essentially 'ahahahaha, look at how ugly he is'
Yeah, the ugly sonic jokes weren’t funny when it was hammed in so much. A shame because other than that he’s a decent character here with a good minor role.
@@grid9521 Well ""Minor".. he kind of has as much of a role, if not bigger, than Monterey, Zipper and Gadget, as he even partecipates in the final battle XD
Why did Peter pan age but not the lost boy at the con???
Goes to show that our beloved cartoons we loved growing up wouldn't exactly like our reality, aside from comic-con which is that of Halloween or any special event.
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How much new Gadget Rule 34 has filled the internet since this came out? 😂
Most likely a lot
I'll check it out later to confirm.
And I looked forward Gadget going through a typical Hollywood actress life-story including Wienstein's bedroom. Guess they either weren't that brave, or that was the original and Disney scraped it immediately that's why her lazy persona in the movie.
Idk I don't think most people would want to see that. Less of a "not brave", and more of a "not stupid"
I don't know why, but the "2D" animated characters look out of place, and uncanny, expecially when they interact with "really" things. It just look like those things are just 3D models. Like I sayd don't know why, but I just see it for some reason.
It's Cel-shading. Can be used to great effect, but is mostly used for cheap production cost.
If you couldn't tell, it's the latter for this movie.
@@reasyrandom thanks. My classmate was right, this movie is cheaper then we though. And people comperd this to Who freamed Roger Rabbit.
Honestly, it could have been better, and it could have been worse, but ultimately, I think there are much better characters that could be used for a meta "they're actually characters" story
Going to have to disagree on the idea that it’s fine to have references if it’s more varied. Oh a movie that doesn’t just reference disney movies but also…memes? Ugly Sonic is not anything at all. I don’t see how because it made you laugh a little (if you know who he is and were that mad about it to see the design as a joke in itself) it makes it okay.
A movie that is only references to tug on nostalgia is still a pretty bad movie.
The thing I like the most about this movie is that it gave us answers to question we always had growing up. Like "I wonder if they eat whale".
Fun Fact: SEGA didn’t even approve of this, not even paramount they literally took that design and made him a parody
Source???
@@wasquash credits, check em
Alot of people are discusted by Gadget and the fly getting together, mainly because it's their childhood waifu 😳but when you it really think about it a mouse giving birth to maggots from the pet like character is ewww
im just so tired of media (especially anything specifically targeted at kids/families) that only works if you have an encyclopedic knowledge of the entertainment industry and a bottomless appetite for "meta self awareness" as a replacement for humor.
I remember the rubber bando, and the shapeshifter alien, and the soda pop cult, and gadget dressed like Jessica rabbit? And gadget having a scam artist doppelgänger with a volcano. Everything else is a blur…
I know the characters, the villains… but I have no idea what they’ve done.
Is there a reason Dale looks like Alvin instead of like Chip???
One thing that bothers me about these type of meta stories is how openly cynical they are.
Yeah, that's why I prefer Roger Rabbit.
While it has its darker moments (Jessica's sexual exploitation in all but name, Eddie's backstory), it lightens it up considerably with the main characters getting some actual bright spots that aren't played for laughs (Roger and Jessica genuinely love each other, Eddie finally gets to clear his conscience).
What am I supposed to feel about Gadget's marriage? I think it was meant to be a joke, but I just felt sick.
I stopped it at 1:30 and I'm terrified
so, this "2D look, but it's actually 3D" really gives me Beastars vibes. and the movie has this Gumball "different styles used together" thing
also, at 3:00 is that...Dobby on the Gucci poster?!
funny enough ugly sonic looks a lot better when he what he is meant to be a more human sonic the clothes and all just remove the flaws it still looks bad but at least it better tho they mite have try to make him look worse im not really sure also it would have bin the best thing in the world of they made mickey mouse the main villain just comedy gold
Honestly I wish Monterey Jack had gone on the adventure with Chip and Dale and it had been someone else who had been kidnapped instead.
10:00 Don´t worry, Disneys STUPID TRAILERS already spoiled it
I really don't like the animation of the 2D characters, it feels off. Like it feels like bad rotoscoping or something, I can't describe it. How was Who Framed Roger Rabbit able to have better animation with 2D characters in a live action setting than a modern movie?
Well, it's because it wasn't really 2D animated. Unlike Roger Rabbit, which WAS 2D animated, this movie is using 3D Models, then using Cel shading to make them LOOK like they were 2D animated. That's the issue.
@@raymaikeru My apologies, I shoulda phrased my comment better or just not comment at all while I'm tired lol I know it was all 3D models using cel shading, it's just I've seen very good animations that do this trick, 3D models appearing 2D and they did a great job it. But in this movie it feels like bad rotoscoping.
Being overly meta has become grating for me too. The only exception is Rick & Morty and Deadpool because the main character being meta actually has a character-driven story reason for it in the first place. There's intention behind it. It's not as you describe, pointing out tropes to excuse bad writing without actually doing or saying anything with it. Meta humor, much like the multiverse concept, only works when there's genuinely good writing and consideration behind it. Unfortunately, it's really easy for lesser writers to use these things as a crutch.
I mean.. Sora is a Disney owned character so Sora isn't a stretch like some of the other things you mentioned
I wasn't gonna see the movie, till I saw Voltron in there. VOLTRON-
I still can't believe they thought it was a good idea to have Zipper (a fly treated as the gang pet) married Gadget and had 42 half mouse half fly mutants, its basically as if she married the dog.
Did the creators even watch the show or are they trying to fuck our childhoods?
Well I assume he's an actor playing the pet. Plus it's hilarious how that pissed off the weirdos that are way too into Gadget
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 its not that we're all into gadget in a weird sexual way, she represents our first childhood crush, so for disney to do that is terrible.
Its clearly part of demoralizing tactics to further make men feel unimportant and out of place.
Personally when the collapse comes I'll be great, i have plans to steal your women
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 Damn this is some unhinged shit. If that was the case then the movie wouldn't have had its two main characters both be males lmao. It was obviously just a comedic subversion of expectations and a bit of gross-out that managed to piss off cheeto-dust covered weirdos online. And lol at the idea your incel ass is getting any women. Don't shoot up any schools Elliott.
This ended on a surprisingly negative note. For a film that copied a lot of bad films and made everything work damn well, it deserves massive praise. For everyone who's criticised Ready Player 1, Space Jam 2, Wreck it Ralph 2, and so much more, this film proves those criticisms right. It proves that it could have been done better. Because it DID better. You upset that it used bad tropes really ignores what it was able to do with those bad tropes. This movie was genuinely good. And the fact that it had no right to be so good damn well does earn it bonus points.
The weird feeling of it being a Disney movie, whilst the villain of the movie is Disney, is not lost on me. And that's why it feels so much like the crea mking this went rogue. That and all the cemos leave me with a sense that this surely could not have actually gotten the "ok" from so many people. This movie is a fan movie in every sense of the word. It shouldn't be legal. It shouldn't exist. But it does. And that's incredible. And it was good.
I don't see it as any of these companies saying they've learned from their mistakes, I'm not that naive. But I think this movie existing makes everything just feel a bit better.
Kind of shocked you didn’t go into more detail about how this was done by The Lonely Island outside on Andy Samberg starring.
I kinda expected something crazier given Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping.
Ok I read the thumbnail as “Is Meth always bad?” Please tell me I’m not the only one
I'm just really tired of post-ironic reboots and creations. Maybe a few animators put love into this film, but the overwhelming feeling is that it's people doing more than just poking fun at something they liked as kids. It feels like they're actually putting down older, "happier" shows in a mean spirited way.
0:06 I feel that opening statement with every fiber of my being.
I hate to admit it, but the movie was SO good. I finished watching it today. Chip n dale has good chemistry together (It was fun and funny) plus the Antman joke although I don't like how they use Peter pan as a villain (referring to Old VC of Peter) as a way of mocking them like Sonic from a DIFFERENT company. Dang Disney.
I keep hearing it’s pretty good, but I can’t let myself watch it. Sora’s hair in one of the shots was actually traced from fanart, and that’s just scummy on Disney’s part.
I enjoyed the movie overall way more than I expected to but the biggest problem for me was the faux-2D animation. I get that it would've probably quadrupled the budget to hire a bunch of proper, old-school Disney animators (if they even still exist) but it would've looked way better if they had.
C'mon now, some of you are *just* here for Ugly Sonic and nothing more!
I’m just upset that they use the actual story of Bobby Driscoll for Peter Pan and make him a bad guy too , it just speaks volume for me about the films writing
I get that SC dislikes having numerous cameos and apparently meta humor, but I wonder what video this would have gotten if it was a Bonkers movie?
Note: I obviously meant if it was Bonkers instead of Rescue Rangers. Just imagine if it was Bonkers as an actor that played Bonkers. That would have been BONKERS in being meta.
Everyone including me keeps complaining that that's what it should have been - a Bonkers D. Bobcat movie. Hell, I'll even take a dull remixed origin story over this crap.
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I mean, it is basically the same premise, which would make it so meta if it was the same cartoon.
Huuuuggg, I am going to have to watch for ugly Sonic...
You hit the nail on the head when you said that it was always so close to being good. They just didn't know when to let a good joke die. Ugly Sonic was the biggest example of this. Hilarious when he first showed up, but overstayed his welcome by the end. By absolute biggest complaint was at the end, when *spoiler warning*
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they went and gave Ugly Sonic the role that they had already set up Gadget and Zipper for, distracting the villain by showing up in an aircraft. Seriously, Gadget and Zipper were LITERALLY flying around overhead in an aircraft, and had NOTHING else to do in this story! What were they doing up there the whole time, making more creepy fly mouse babies? Just give them SOMETHING! Making it turn out that Ugly Sonic was actually an FBI agent wasn't even funny!
Even when they do it well, like you said with the rapping scene, it was a good callback but just went on too long.
Pretty much the only time one of their "lampshade a thing and then just do the thing" jokes landed for me was at the very end, when Dale was like, "oh, and we can have a big pop star do a remix of the theme song, which everyone will love even though they really just want to hear the original," and proceed to go to the credits and do exactly that, but that joke worked because the movie was OVER, and they didn't have time to dwell on it any further.