SECRET ENDING BEHIND MOHG THE OMEN: ua-cam.com/video/nslHWcGg9mo/v-deo.html NOTE: 5:37 There is a ladder. Shoutout to Arc há 2 horas for adding info I forgot: Before walking into the room with the ladder, walk over the big tube at the right in front of the room with the ladder. If you follow it to the end at the left will be a door which connects to the room with the ladder. kick it down
@@Alhurk Go through the door at 5:25 follow the pipe to the right all the way up drop down on the left side of it jump up the little jump and go through the corridors on the right, the latter should be on the left
If you come here after the point where the world changes, the center of the city has a giant manhole open that drops at the same initial point, for anyone who needs it Edit: glad I could help all of these people haha no problem!
I spent hours looping in circles. Cleared the catacombs below the sewers (door in crayfish area). It was the pipe in rat hallway. Walked passed it everytime. Note: i googled the crap out of sewer mohg omen door etc. Couldnt find anything. Then poof today your vid top pick.
I've been in these sewers for 2 hours and I haven't even beat mohg or cleared the catacombs yet lmao I Found the catacomb site of grace almost instantly, but I turned around to go back and explore the sewers. I've been here ever since lmao
The everyone wondering about the ladder: Go to through the shortcut door you just opened (infront of the grace), and if you look to your right theres a pipe you need to get on and follow, then just drop down to the lower platform on left at the end of the pipe and im sure you can figure out the rest.
@@MohammedJRPGs so essentially you go back to the pipe area from that door jump down on a pipe youll see a platform with a door and there is a pipe path that leads right up to it
This was SO helpful! I was stuck in these sewers for almost as long as some of the big legacy dungeons so knowing which path to take to avoid fighting as much as possible saved me a ton of time. Thank you!!!
Tip for this: burning victim build(fire incant that makes you burn nearby creatures) and briar armor for extra roll damage protection. Could also just shield crash bleed build it.
When you're first there it's really not that difficult to open all gates and doors. Once everything is open however it starts to get difficult to navigate.
Thanks for the video I didn’t know how to get there. Funny story me and my buddy were playing the game and using your video to get there when we were invaded by a player called sewer guide and he was super friendly and lead us all the way down there. Best experience I’ve ever had with this game so far. Lol
4:54 Don’t worry about this ogre. He’s super easy to get past. You literally just have to slowly enter the room while crouching, he will stand up and face the SW wall, and you can sneak past him and up the ladder
This was one of the most succinct and helpful guides I've seen so far dealing with the awful nature of the Lyndell sewers I had to comment. Great content brother
Thank you that was incredibly helpful! By far the most confusing part of the game so far. Most other walkthroughs were 30 minutes long and they look more lost than anything. Your video was clear and well explained, helped a lot!
Been exploring this area, looking for Mohg but instead I wound up at leyndell catacombs. Finished the catacombs, still looking for Mohg. I'll use this guide to show the way. Thanks 😁
Amazing guide really helped me out was running around those sewers for hours lol PS: There’s a secret area after beating the boss just hit wall behind the chest :)
Imagine that, a content creator that clears the area and rehearses what he's going to talk about! Excellent video, and yes that path will eventually get you to Crucible Knight armor which is why I'm here.
theres another secret and its going to sound like a troll, go to the altar in the boss room take your equipment off. approach the wall behind the altar while not wearing armor and it reveals a secret path to an even larger section of the dungeon.
HIDDEN DOOR behind boss chest after beating him. Leads to the Deeproot Depths. I was so excited when I found this random hidden area behind the boss at the bottom of the sewers, lol.
@@paingoesbrrr same, something with the story. You piss Melina off when you do it as well and at the next bonfire she tells you "if you become Lord of Chaos, I will not hesitate to kill you". Then she says bye to you and Torrent. I was so sad :( I didnt wanna piss her off. Lol
Make sure to kick the ladder down. It’s just around the corner when you walk into the shortcut to the left. You can drop down over to that area. You don’t have to kick the ladder but if you die it’s easier I guess than walking around and jumping down again.
@@whenyoucoolasacucumber Yes, the bigger shortcut at the end before he goes to the ladder. If you actually walk into the shortcut area and look you’ll see the area behind that you can go to. It’s not a lot of platforming. Just a very small detail missed in this video since he already had the latter kicked down.
Something to note, in the room with the ladder you have to kick down; the big guy in the room can climb that ladder without it being kicked down somehow.
You're a lifesaver, thank you. I played the game thrice and yet I always come back here because I keep getting lost. It was very simple and to the point, thank you again
So that door right after the omen, go left onto the pipe and follow on it then drop left at the end and go into a door on the right where you can kick the ladder down
I know this was 2 years ago but thank you so much for making a decent legible tutorial on how to get there. You have saved me from rage quitting for the second time trying to find this lol
I just spent an hour running in circles, trying to find him blindly, what a pain. great vid, I already had the shortcuts opened, just needed a little more guidance!
Thank you, I think I’ve raged more in my 4 hours of this dungeon than I have during the rest of my 100 hr play through (I just finished the game for the first time and am clearing everything)
Would of been extra helpful if you told us the ladder you went up to jump into the pipe was actually inaccessible until you got to a platform which isnt clear how to reach
One of the best videos I've seen. Paced just right and actually spoke. I like to do it while listening to what you're doing. And quick glance at the video to ensure... So this was very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks I did this off memory after seeing it was a 0.02% achievement and nobody had found him. Wish I remembered the ladder kickdown at end, the way it blew up but at least its the easiest step in the sewer to figure out without a guide. thanks again
Thank you for this. NG+ 2 and I still find this place a labyrinth of confusion and frustration. Although I did find a catacomb I missed by accident while trying and failing to find the one path I needed to go.
If the ladder isn’t down for some people like it was for me, try going back onto the wooden bridge at the shortcut across the underground roadside site of grace, from here you’ll have to jump onto a couple of pipes and one pipe should lead you to a small doorway, which leads to the other side of the gap. Here is where you’ll find the ladder
Should mention the ladder kick at the pipe area when you can 'run past the fat dude' if it isn't deployed if you can't jump down the shortcut and climb up.
So what caught me up is after the second interior door opening, I didn't know I could open the other door from the outside. I thought it was another door I had to find. Make sure to walk up to ALL the doors on the main level to make sure you can/can't open them. FINALLY. Thank you so much dude.
Thanks for the guide!! For some reason I missed the one of the turns. Also, it's kinda weird for a fantasy setting to have such a massive and complex pipeline system imo 😅
Brightness for this game is crap. Occasionally some game like this and resident evil village record very poor in dark areas. I've since been using torch and now use the lantern.
theres another secret and its going to sound like a troll, go to the altar in the boss room take your equipment off. approach the wall behind the altar while not wearing armor and it reveals a secret path to an even larger section of the dungeon.
bottom part of latter towards the end was gone for me for some reason, but if you just go around run up the pipe towards the end jump down to the left, you can get through the lil cove to hop into the mario style sewer pipe
@@rolomomo1 yeah it's in the big main room with all the pipes, you walk along the tallest one on the right (if it's not the tallest it should be the exact same height as the ladder that isn't kicked and it's close so you'd be able to use it as a reference)
Nevermind, I figured it out. You already had the ladder down because you went around and dropped it last time you were in the sewer. FYI for anyone who has that problem also
Before walking into the room with the ladder, walk over the big tube at the right in front of the room with the ladder. If you follow it to the end at the left will be a door which connects to the room with the ladder. kick it down
Dude you made me travel the whole sewer back and forth just to tell me how to get somewhere you could’ve made a video for in 2 minutes instead of 7. We literally passed that site of grace 3 times in your tutorial.
@@cycolarcogaming6881 lol, agree to disagree. I got $100 for anyone who does a walkthrough that can get basically anyone to Mohg the omen without starting in the sewer in 2 minutes or less. Payout to only one person just in case I'm wrong. You must include how to unlock all paths needed to get to Mohg the Omen. Challenge put forth: Who wants to try?
SECRET ENDING BEHIND MOHG THE OMEN: ua-cam.com/video/nslHWcGg9mo/v-deo.html
NOTE: 5:37 There is a ladder. Shoutout to Arc há 2 horas for adding info I forgot: Before walking into the room with the ladder, walk over the big tube at the right in front of the room with the ladder. If you follow it to the end at the left will be a door which connects to the room with the ladder. kick it down
The door opens form the other side
Thank you
@@Alhurk Go through the door at 5:25 follow the pipe to the right all the way up drop down on the left side of it jump up the little jump and go through the corridors on the right, the latter should be on the left
@@dreambreaker11799 I got platinum yesterday
I’m not seeing what you’re saying. The ladder isn’t down for me
"I have removed the enemies to make showing you this easy"
*Drops onto a pile of omen corpses*
I was thinking you used a mod until I saw that
😆
Haha good one😅😊
Thought the same thing. That made me laugh a bit
Yeah I thought that was funny
Same lmao I was like 😮
If you come here after the point where the world changes, the center of the city has a giant manhole open that drops at the same initial point, for anyone who needs it
Edit: glad I could help all of these people haha no problem!
thank you!
Based doing this when I get off work!
The true hero's always in the comments
No it doesnt
Cool I thought the area was gonna be blocked off and I’d have to do another playthrough
I spent nearly 3 hours down here without finding the boss having all shortcuts open. Thank you so much I appreciate it.
You're welcome. It took me 2 hours to beat this section too.
I spent hours looping in circles. Cleared the catacombs below the sewers (door in crayfish area). It was the pipe in rat hallway. Walked passed it everytime.
Note: i googled the crap out of sewer mohg omen door etc. Couldnt find anything. Then poof today your vid top pick.
I've been in these sewers for 2 hours and I haven't even beat mohg or cleared the catacombs yet lmao
I Found the catacomb site of grace almost instantly, but I turned around to go back and explore the sewers. I've been here ever since lmao
Same!
The everyone wondering about the ladder: Go to through the shortcut door you just opened (infront of the grace), and if you look to your right theres a pipe you need to get on and follow, then just drop down to the lower platform on left at the end of the pipe and im sure you can figure out the rest.
Thank you
you can be more specific please?
I love you
@@MohammedJRPGs so essentially you go back to the pipe area from that door jump down on a pipe youll see a platform with a door and there is a pipe path that leads right up to it
thanks
This was SO helpful! I was stuck in these sewers for almost as long as some of the big legacy dungeons so knowing which path to take to avoid fighting as much as possible saved me a ton of time. Thank you!!!
didn’t expect to see rogersbase here, internets a small place
"So I removed all the enemies"
What a polite way of saying genocide
LMAO
1:21 when he dropped down and i saw the bodies i lowkey felt bad it looked like a graveyard
If you’d spent HOURS being killed by those little bastards, you might feel differently.
Great guide👍
I also have a tip for everyone following this route, *DO NOT* under estimate the rats in this area, they’re built different
Tip for this: burning victim build(fire incant that makes you burn nearby creatures) and briar armor for extra roll damage protection. Could also just shield crash bleed build it.
@@orioncob5640 strategies for a single area? Damn i just ran through
Just guard counter. 🙄
I think beast repellent torch would be rnough
Just got my shit rocked by them 😭
What an easy, uncomplicated path! Sure most people could find it by themselves!
I found it by myself on accident.
And couldn't figure out how to get back😅
This place is a labyrinth of poop.
It’s my least favourite part of the game.
I love this area. Never really found it that complicated really.
When you're first there it's really not that difficult to open all gates and doors. Once everything is open however it starts to get difficult to navigate.
Ofc you didn't @@Thumb_
Thanks for the video I didn’t know how to get there. Funny story me and my buddy were playing the game and using your video to get there when we were invaded by a player called sewer guide and he was super friendly and lead us all the way down there. Best experience I’ve ever had with this game so far. Lol
That's funny. Never seen the helpful invader; let me solve this puzzle for you. Then again, I usually kill them on sight so never gave one the chance.
one day we had a JoJo battle to call it some way, just by making different positions.
4:54 Don’t worry about this ogre. He’s super easy to get past. You literally just have to slowly enter the room while crouching, he will stand up and face the SW wall, and you can sneak past him and up the ladder
This was one of the most succinct and helpful guides I've seen so far dealing with the awful nature of the Lyndell sewers I had to comment. Great content brother
Thank you that was incredibly helpful! By far the most confusing part of the game so far. Most other walkthroughs were 30 minutes long and they look more lost than anything. Your video was clear and well explained, helped a lot!
Been exploring this area, looking for Mohg but instead I wound up at leyndell catacombs. Finished the catacombs, still looking for Mohg. I'll use this guide to show the way. Thanks 😁
Amazing guide really helped me out was running around those sewers for hours lol
PS: There’s a secret area after beating the boss just hit wall behind the chest :)
@Zachary Smalling Yup, dude left out the most important part lol
Imagine that, a content creator that clears the area and rehearses what he's going to talk about! Excellent video, and yes that path will eventually get you to Crucible Knight armor which is why I'm here.
Thanks dude, almost missed that
theres another secret and its going to sound like a troll, go to the altar in the boss room take your equipment off. approach the wall behind the altar while not wearing armor and it reveals a secret path to an even larger section of the dungeon.
@@ZedNull. are you capping my boy.
HIDDEN DOOR behind boss chest after beating him. Leads to the Deeproot Depths. I was so excited when I found this random hidden area behind the boss at the bottom of the sewers, lol.
Liar ahead?
@@eugkra33 nope, for realsies
@@eugkra33 He's not lying, Deeproot Depths is a terrifying but beautiful place.
@@paingoesbrrr same, something with the story. You piss Melina off when you do it as well and at the next bonfire she tells you "if you become Lord of Chaos, I will not hesitate to kill you". Then she says bye to you and Torrent.
I was so sad :( I didnt wanna piss her off. Lol
@@paingoesbrrr franzied flame quest. A different ending. You can fix it if you co sume milicent needle during azula drgaon boss fight
Make sure to kick the ladder down. It’s just around the corner when you walk into the shortcut to the left. You can drop down over to that area. You don’t have to kick the ladder but if you die it’s easier I guess than walking around and jumping down again.
upvote this comment folks cause I completely missed this when he got to the ladder.. ty
Could you elaborate on this a bit, when youb say shortcut do you mean the door that opens?
@@whenyoucoolasacucumber Yes, the bigger shortcut at the end before he goes to the ladder. If you actually walk into the shortcut area and look you’ll see the area behind that you can go to. It’s not a lot of platforming. Just a very small detail missed in this video since he already had the latter kicked down.
Thank you for this. I missed it as well. But fighting the goblins on the way to the Ladd is taking me longer than the whole thing so far
@@ryans2892 those goblins are a menace man honestly 🤣
Something to note, in the room with the ladder you have to kick down; the big guy in the room can climb that ladder without it being kicked down somehow.
Happened to me too. Also when I first entered that room from below there were 3 Omen dudes, not just one.
@Itsy Beans undead burg?
@@L.K.48 how 2 kick the damn ladder
@@Lilprez22 approach the ladder from above and there should be a prompt to interact with it
@@L.K.48 from where how do I get to it
Thank you so much, I’ve been stuck for 30 minutes
I ran around these sewers for bout an hour "thinking eventually i'll find mohg" Thank the lord of this walkthrough
You're a lifesaver, thank you. I played the game thrice and yet I always come back here because I keep getting lost. It was very simple and to the point, thank you again
How do you lower the ladder in the ladder room though?
Yeah lmfao he never shows that “go back to the shortcut you just opened” and the fucking ladder is up
So that door right after the omen, go left onto the pipe and follow on it then drop left at the end and go into a door on the right where you can kick the ladder down
@@mahlikparker9330thanks man I actually found it
@@mahlikparker9330 thx
@@mahlikparker9330you’re a legand
I know this was 2 years ago but thank you so much for making a decent legible tutorial on how to get there. You have saved me from rage quitting for the second time trying to find this lol
Fromsoft really got us playing a metroidvania, WITHOUT A MAP! Absolute madness.
Thanks a lot for this guide! I genuinely hate the sewers episodes in Fromsoft games and you made this one much more palatable for me.
episodes huh ? just curious u like old games
All these years of playing and im not sure if i ever got to him until just now thank you
THANK YOU! I spent literal hours and never found the sewer pipe leading off from the area with Dung Eater. This helped a ton!
Played through many times and always get lost here and your vid always pops up, so thumbs up from me
I just spent an hour running in circles, trying to find him blindly, what a pain. great vid, I already had the shortcuts opened, just needed a little more guidance!
Thank you, I think I’ve raged more in my 4 hours of this dungeon than I have during the rest of my 100 hr play through (I just finished the game for the first time and am clearing everything)
Would of been extra helpful if you told us the ladder you went up to jump into the pipe was actually inaccessible until you got to a platform which isnt clear how to reach
Added to pin comment just now. Yeah, completely forgot about that ladder when backtracking paths.
@@ILapTheFlashhow about re doing the "guide"
I thought I was going insane, I can't get that damn ladder down
Thank you for the content i got stuck in the sewers so many times!
This guide made a very inaccessible area easy to deal with. Thank you!
one of the best guides for this type of stuff! i always link friends to you and just wanted to thank you for your service M8
One of the best videos I've seen. Paced just right and actually spoke. I like to do it while listening to what you're doing. And quick glance at the video to ensure... So this was very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks I did this off memory after seeing it was a 0.02% achievement and nobody had found him. Wish I remembered the ladder kickdown at end, the way it blew up but at least its the easiest step in the sewer to figure out without a guide. thanks again
Dude your voice is amazing, watched the whole video just for that alone.
Lmao, thanks. Oddly enough I get that comment a lot.
amazing guide thank you so much i was literally wondering around in these tunnels for so long and finally decides to look it up
Honestly this was the most helpful Elden ring tutorial ever thank you
You, my friend. Are amazing. This helped enormous.
i went past the big rat like three times. You are a lifesaver. Thank you.
Thank you for this. NG+ 2 and I still find this place a labyrinth of confusion and frustration. Although I did find a catacomb I missed by accident while trying and failing to find the one path I needed to go.
If the ladder isn’t down for some people like it was for me, try going back onto the wooden bridge at the shortcut across the underground roadside site of grace, from here you’ll have to jump onto a couple of pipes and one pipe should lead you to a small doorway, which leads to the other side of the gap. Here is where you’ll find the ladder
I just needed the first 30s, thanks! I feel like I ran up and down the city for hours just to find that well and couldn't locate it x)
I would just like to add there aint no way in hell that i would have found this on my own. Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you so much, I had been wandering around for almost 2 hours before looking at the video
Where do you go to let down the ladder ?
Straight to the point, no bloat content. Thanks!
thanks, searching for this boss made me fought like 3 mini bosses in this city
The amount of times I have to come back to this video is ridiculous the sewers kills me haha thank you for the easy guide
Thank you so much this part was driving me insane.
Bless you.
YOUR VOICE IS SO LOUD AND CLEAR!!! VERY GOOD!
When was I supposed to kick a ladder?
Same thing happened to me lol
How do you get down the ladder
Find out?
Yeah wtf
I like that you do a voice guide rather than just a video so players can move along with you rather than constantly looking down at their phone.
I love this zone. Every time I thought I had explored everything a new path appeared. And the talisman after the final boss is great
Theres a wall behind the chest after Mogh, lets just say that you should try to hit that wall. Now ill let you explore the rest for yourself
@@stariron7113 WHAT
@@stariron7113 omg you're right! I can't pass tho, it's sealed
@@juanmajg9981 wdym its sealed?
@@stariron7113 I had to beat Morgott first, never mind
Thank you so much! I was stuck for ages! Very clear guide. You are the only one showing the direct route to mohg while commentating!
Oh my god, I covered everything EXCEPT for dropping down that one pipe to get to the boss!
same lol
Me too!
thank you! skipped him on my last playthrough, thought id revisit him this time ;)
Should mention the ladder kick at the pipe area when you can 'run past the fat dude' if it isn't deployed if you can't jump down the shortcut and climb up.
I am 120+ hours in and wasn't able to find him until now. Thank you!
I’m on my 16th world n just found out about this😭
damn
Thank yooooou I was stuck in this area forever if it wasn’t for you
So what caught me up is after the second interior door opening, I didn't know I could open the other door from the outside. I thought it was another door I had to find. Make sure to walk up to ALL the doors on the main level to make sure you can/can't open them. FINALLY. Thank you so much dude.
Thanks man. It’s incredible that people figure this out on their own 😂
Thanks for the guide!! For some reason I missed the one of the turns.
Also, it's kinda weird for a fantasy setting to have such a massive and complex pipeline system imo 😅
Why wouldn’t they? If they have massive architectural feats like the castles and towers we’ve seen, why wouldn’t they have sewers lol?
THANK YOU!!! I couldn’t follow the written instructions to save my life. This mad it simple
If you’re going to do guides please raise your brightness
Brightness for this game is crap. Occasionally some game like this and resident evil village record very poor in dark areas. I've since been using torch and now use the lantern.
Thank you, this was REALLY helpful, I had no idea where I was supposed to go.
the ladder at 5:39 wasnt extended yet, so you skipped a step, running around the pipes outside to get that shortcut
Was going to mention this. Great guide otherwise though
Thanks again, my go-to guide whenever i want to fight Mohg
theres another secret and its going to sound like a troll, go to the altar in the boss room take your equipment off. approach the wall behind the altar while not wearing armor and it reveals a secret path to an even larger section of the dungeon.
You dont need to take your equipment off
Thanks so much! This really helped!
bottom part of latter towards the end was gone for me for some reason, but if you just go around run up the pipe towards the end jump down to the left, you can get through the lil cove to hop into the mario style sewer pipe
Thx bro here I am again in ng+ after 309 hrs, can't find my damn way again 😆
When you take the short cut at 5:35, that ladder isn't lowered for me. What do i have to do to get it lowered?
Figured out?
I walked everywhere but never thought of jumping down that hole where the big rat is at. Thank you!
“Happy Hunting”.
I miss bloodborne sometimes.
Thank you So much, i have been stuck here for so long and really needed help.
Thank you for this. This dungeon has been by far the worst one I've experienced in the game so far
How? The golden capital is beautiful and vast
@@DurpyKraken and the sewers are the opposite of that
@@TheRizzidentEvil ohh the sewers. I thought he meant the whole area in general. I agree then👍
@@DurpyKraken yeah I meant the sewers lol
Lol just wait until the hero's grave with the five chariots and the double crucible knight boss fight at the end
Thank you very much for the guide. This sewer is a freaking maze.
How did you get the ladder at 5:39
That's what I wanna know
Hey dude just came to say after 400hrs in it was driving me crazy finding this grace, thanks instasub👍
Uhhhhh the second ladder isn't kicked and I can't climb it......? Did I miss something
@@rolomomo1 yeah it's in the big main room with all the pipes, you walk along the tallest one on the right (if it's not the tallest it should be the exact same height as the ladder that isn't kicked and it's close so you'd be able to use it as a reference)
Thanks man! The weed hit the best of me in the sewers, was running circles for hours, lol.
Thank you a lot, really helped get through this area!
5 playthroughs and i come back to this vid every time
Thanks so much for the guide, was to the point and VERY helpful.
DUDE thank you for this. The ogre's gave me so much frustration. This really helped!
Just when you thought you’ve seen everything in the game…there’s more.
Started the game a month ago. Many thanks!!!
How did you get that ladder down at 5:47?
Nevermind, I figured it out. You already had the ladder down because you went around and dropped it last time you were in the sewer. FYI for anyone who has that problem also
@@travisoutlaw9511Thank you 😭 I’m trying to get to the DLC
don't know why i tried doing this like 50 times by myself before coming here. thank you man
I love you.
This helped a lot thanks i actually would've never thought of this. Seriously don't understand how people find this out. thanks!
@5:37 this ladder is not extended to the ground
Before walking into the room with the ladder, walk over the big tube at the right in front of the room with the ladder. If you follow it to the end at the left will be a door which connects to the room with the ladder. kick it down
@@arc7498 Very thank you
Thank you for doing this in real time! I couldn’t keep up with anyone else. Great video!
Dude you made me travel the whole sewer back and forth just to tell me how to get somewhere you could’ve made a video for in 2 minutes instead of 7. We literally passed that site of grace 3 times in your tutorial.
You do video in 2 minutes and share; love to see that. Send me link when you do, I'll check it out.
@@ILapTheFlash He isn’t wrong tho
@@cycolarcogaming6881 lol, agree to disagree. I got $100 for anyone who does a walkthrough that can get basically anyone to Mohg the omen without starting in the sewer in 2 minutes or less. Payout to only one person just in case I'm wrong. You must include how to unlock all paths needed to get to Mohg the Omen. Challenge put forth: Who wants to try?
So easy! How could anyone not figure this out on their own?
That ladder at 5:53 isn’t accessible
See pinned comment
Probably worth noting the omen you mention at 5:07 will chase you up that ladder, I learned the hard way lol
At 5:30 the second ladder isn’t there what do I do
See pinned comment