I would suggest you try to eliminate the problem with the game genies not working. It could be either a problem with the cartridge, system itself or the game genies. On the system I purchased for my son, the game genies all work fine.
@@RoXolid i agree with you 200% dude i cant STAND stretched video games or even videos on youtube where someone stretched the video it literally blows i have no idea how people can put up with a wrong looking image. im totally going to just get the retro trio 3 ( non plus) its cheaper and has s video and composite so no point in paying for the plus and wasting money when im not even going to use the HDMI on it. its annoying to toglle back and forth between 4:3 and 16:9 on your tv too so what a royal pain the plus system can be for some people
Yeah, it's all too clear that if you want the games to play at their best, you're better off with the high-end systems (the FPGAs or Retron 5). These HDMI NOACs are made to be cheap, not necessarily good.
RoXolid, your video needs more views. You don't give a lot of bullshit unboxing and discussion of the look of the machine. You get right to the games, play on camera with great capture, and actually show us what the playability is, discussing the minutiae of color, lag, sound, etc. Good on you, and i really appreciate your attention to the details that are actually important.
I'm glad you checked the 3 button Genesis pad. I originally thought it wasn't working properly, but after your review I went and took out another one I had in storage and it worked 100%! (I'll have to open up the original pad I tested with and see if there's anything I can fix on it) Given the choice, I'll always take the 3 button pad over the 6 button ones (too small and fiddly). It may not be significant, but I was able to get my SNES Game Genie working - with the exception of Super Mario All Stars, which gave a black screen just as you described. EDIT: I have to revise my assessment of 3 button compatibility after all. I first noticed that in Ms Pac-Man, I was having trouble getting it to recognize the pressing of the Start button. Then I put in the Genesis 6 Pak cart, and it wouldn't recognize any inputs at all! Games like Strider and Raiden Trad all worked normally with the pad, however. Very strange. EDIT 2: In retrospect, the fact I was getting different results at different times should have been an obvious clue. I broke out my can of electrical contact cleaner today, and sprayed it into the 9-pin socket of my 3 button controller - lo and behold, it is now working properly with every game on the SRT+. The lesson here is that even in storage, oxidation can take place on metal surfaces, and you can't take for granted that a 25-30 year old bit of equipment is going to be working as if it were in pristine condition. I'm definitely in for one of those new Sega licensed Genesis controllers Retrobit will be putting out this year!
4:33 sounds like typical reverse duty cycles that so many NES clones suffer from. Cant mistake that coin and power up sound. The Retro Duo and RES have over amplified sound. The original Retro Trio (the one with the Genesis controller ports) actually does not have any issues (avoid the one with the SNES ports). Its one of the few. The only one I would recommend.
As always, I appreciate your thorough and balanced review! I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before, but another game that really should be tested on all these clone consoles is Battletoads on the NES. Apparently many clones simply freeze up in the middle of Level 2, making the game unplayable unless you take a warp past it. That's a popular game, so it could be a dealbreaker for some people. But I don't think any of the big UA-cam reviewers bother to try that one out.
There is a bug-fix patch that fixes the problem with clones having trouble with level 2 as well as fixing a problem with level 11 and not being able to complete it while playing with a friend! It also fixes some other bugs with Battletoads but those are the main ones that stand out for me! Just thought I'd throw this out there for anyone that is curious!
I got mine on Amazon and let's just say . It was worth every penny . Because mine works just like a charm and . I got a 4K TV and the coloring is just right .
I had to give this vid another watch, I've got the Joe and Mac bundle I'm hoping to set my one up in a couple of days or so so that I can I see how Desert Strike runs on this unit. This comment could be very long but I'll keep it short, I really like Desert strike and I will know pretty early on how it runs on this. A hard game, made easier with turbo controllers but that feels a little cheaty. I might send you a random tweet on this soon as I must get my one out again (been boxed since I tested it out) I might test it against the At-games megadrive (the one that looks like a M,D or genesis) glad you liked this at the time,
+John Phillips #JeyDoeProductions Nintendo fan, I didn't have a Genesis! But man, I'm finding a TON of great games now that the war is over (which Nintendo won BTW, LOL).
RoXolid Productions are u a STEAM gamer?? if so PLEASE check out a title called the TAKEOVER. I don't know if u ever take requests or whatever, but I would love a review of that title from u sometime. 🖒
It's too bad you didn't have any friends that owned a Genesis. My best and only friend growing up had a Genesis and I had the SNES. We would trade off consoles and bring one of the consoles to each others house to play together if we were spending the night. I got to have the best of both worlds and got to play Streets of Rage a lot with him Great times back then man.
+fireheartis1 We all had SNESes to be honest. In fact there was a friend of ours who had a Jaguar but no Genesis systems to be had. I owned one for about 6 months but only had Sonic 2 for it, eventually sold it for another SNES.
I have the new black/blue version called the "Galaxy Edition". It seems to be the same black/blue console that was released in Europe, but with the video output changed from PAL to NTSC. The audio is strange in that the composite av-out has stereo sound, but the HDMI-out still only has mono sound. My old white/red version has mono sound on both the composite av-out and HDMI-out. I can't find any mention of this version anywhere, not even on Retro-bit's website. I just randomly saw some on ebay a few weeks ago.
Looks good but personally I'm more of a fan of hyperkin over retro bit. I feel they are good but a step back in quality with their controllers and design.... Not feeling the plain white
Have the Trio and the Trio+... both are fantastic! I've had no problems with all 3 Game Genies, as well, so they must have fixed this issue within the last year or two. They work great with a CRT TV and an NES Zapper or Konami Justifier (Genesis, at least that Ive personally tried)! Just don't bother with Decap Attack on Genesis (unless you have an original Model 1 or 2 Sega), or the Hudson Soft Super Multitap 2... I've had no luck with either. Otherwise, fantastic console!
Hi man! Sorry but what about Ghosts n' goblins? The music is allways messup in clone consoles. Does the light gun work with a crt tv? Does it play metroid? Thanks
This is a fantastic video. Thanks so much. Any idea why the game genies don't work? I've got the older Retro Trio 3 and just discovered that my NES Game Genie doesn't work on it.
Hi Gary,Great console😎The Genesis games looked Amazing😎😎😎And for the first time playing SOR2,you played like a champ😎😎As far as the audio,I thought the Game boy games really sounded bad😔😔But overall fantastic machine and video😎😎😎😎😎😎
Very well put together video. I was wondering if you could help me. With the region switch on the system does it work with all the systems or just Genesis as I've heard both? Thank you!
RoXolid Productions Yeah like the NES part leaves some to be desired colour and sound wise. Also not working with Game Genie is a pain. Plus from what I've heard the NES part doesn't work with an EverDrive. Otherwise it seems like a really good experience and the colours they chose for the PAL version are awesome.
So far, the only cartridge I have encountered that won't play, is Virtua Racing. It seems to play every rom cartridge you throw at it, including Everdrives.
does this retrofit play all system games with the controllers it comes with? like if I buy this system and then just buy games, can I play all games with the equipped controllers?? im kinda confused is there more controller slots for your own system controllers? thank you
Good video so far mate I'm still watching it, but I have got a question if this didn't have the name retro bit connected to it and instead had the name atgames connected to it . do you think this system would be slated cos of the sound.
+The Gamer Plus Slated because of the sound? Not quite understanding what you mean by Slated. But I don't care who's nameplate is on this, I covered the sound issue and my disappointment quite well. Also the video quality on the SNES side was off in spots too. The Genesis side, to me a non-Genesis fanatic, I thought looked the best out of all-three systems. For a casual enthusiast who just wants to play Genesis, NES and SNES games this is a fine system, but it is not without its faults which I think I do a decent job of pointing out even though I don't dwell on them. I will say out of the 2 multi systems I have tried to this point, this one and the Classiq2, this is a MUCH better system than the Classiq2 and a better value.
RoXolid Productions I am still buying one myself and I respect your honestly . but people dislike atgames for one yes it was emulation that was like the retron 5, that rips the ROM of the cart but also it had so much bad reviews cos of the sound that it had a bad name for it . . nevermind about that lol anyway keep up good work
+The Gamer Plus I will say this is probably the best HD Genesis system I have played to this point. If you're looking for that alone it makes it worth it! I had issues with the spotty game compatibility with the Atgames system. The onboard games were fine and the mainstream games were fine too but incompatibility with games like Sonic & Knuckles with Sonic 3 was a bummer.
If you were to cut out the Genesis slot from the equation, (I have a Mega Retron HD and cause the HD-2 don't have one) and we're just to compare the SNES and NES, which would you recommend. The super retro Trio Plus or the Gamerz Tek Super HD-2? They are both pretty close in price and I can't find a video comparing the two. The SNES looks great on both from what I can see but which NES is better? Also which has the better HDMI output. I really wanna do some game captures with whichever I get. Sorry for the long question. Thanks ahead of time.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, good question. They're very similar, but there are 2 questions you need to answer: 1) Do you want native 4:3 video or is 16:9 ok? 2) Do you plan on playing any PAL Games? If the answer to either of these is yes, go with the Gamerz Tek Super HD2. If the answer to BOTH is no, go with the Super Retro Trio+. I hope this helps.
@@RoXolid I was leaning towards the HD-2. I don't plan on playing any PAL games and I do kinda want the 4:3 switch, I know technically I can edit the aspect ratio later before I upload but why add more work. This helps a bunch! Thanks Gary!
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I got one of these on Amazon and it was DOA. I would've liked it to have worked, but it just didn't play nice. My Oldskool 2 and my REtron 5 are fine with my TV, but the Retro Trio just wouldn't work with any carts or video settings. YMMV. It's the first DOA I have had since the Retron 2. Update 11/25/18: My Retron 5 finally died (my 2nd one to do so) so I gave this another shot. It's working great out of the box (I was just unlucky I guess.) Saves on desk space. Retron 5's are apparently known for their shoddy build quality. (or so I've read.)
I purchased a Retron2 HD, the Snes games couldn't be launched 1st time (pins were not placed well), and my Mega Retron HD died about a week after being used. Retron consoles are over for me ! I hope better clone consoles, especially at the price they sell them ! Take care, and enjoy retro games !
Madlittlepixel Ok thanks for clarifying. It's really weird how none of these companies can make a good enough clone to play NES flash carts and all Repros. Is there any HD NES clone that can handle an EverDrive other than the NT mini or AVS of course?
Those controllers are Retro-Bit's normal SNES controllers. Not unique to the Retrocade. I have their wireless version. I've seen some black ones on Amazon. They had some other colors but they're hard to find.
I don't agree with your flash cart, ever drive stance...it's not emulation like a modded wii or nes classic. It's only emulating the rom and it acts just like the real one for the most part. This allows me to protect my collection so not to worry about save states or cart degration when using hardware as intended for playing or on a clone system. It is an important tool for causal and core retro gamers alike.
+Zer01 I don't need yet another way to play the same game, know what I mean. Flash Carts aren't exactly cheap and, when you have 49 ways to play a game, at least to me, I don't need a 50th with little to no difference in performance
RoXolid Productions , that's understandable but for me..when I play original hardware I like to keep my collection with little use so it can last longer. A clone system and an everdrive offers this. The ever drive and multicart not only help reserve your collection but allows you to play expensive, un released and patched games. I have many ways of playing also, but there are times you want to play hard to get or unreleased on original or cloned hardware. It's nice to have options, every gamer is different.
I just got this console and popped my Mike Tyson's Punch Out in. The game works fine, but the color is off. Anyone else having that problem or have a solution to fix this?
@@FurioGiunta-ji4xk thanks for checking it out! That's one of the things with clone systems, a lot of times it's the best of what you can get. for truly authentic sound and color palette you're going to want to go with a system that's based on an fpga those are truly beautiful but also hover at $200 and up.
I have to apologize, for some reason this comment didn't pop up for me. So a few reasons. First, because it shows that it will work with the 60-to-72 pin adapter. Secondly, because except for a few minor tweaks it is the same game as the US version. And thirdly, because the performance is identical off camera between both the NES and Famicom version, so it is a good way to kill 2 birds with one stone, as it were.
Great video man. What a thorough review. This system is on my want list. I hear the Pal system is a little better as it has also has a region switch for the snes side. As I live in the netherlands that's the system for me. Strange about the nes audio on this system. I own both ntsc and pal versions if the normal sr trio and there the nes audio is quite authentic. Don't understand why retrobit didn't use that same portion for this machine. Keep u the great vids. Love em!
If i got this could i crank the sharpness of the tv? Would that make snes and genesis less fuzzy? And How is the lag? Ive asked many and no one has answered.
I'm not sure because mine works like a charm on my 4K TV . So I really don't have an answer for you . My only advice is just try it out . But I know mine works like a charm .
The whole reason people test Streets of Rage or is for the music bud I wish you didnt talk over it while you were playing its hard to hear if its accurate or not. good review aside from that people just care alot about the sound on genesis clones myself included.
Trust me I understand, there is actually a reason know why there's so much voice over. A lot of times if you have game music in a video the publisher will place a copyright claim on the video. By doing the voiceover you can still kind of hear the background music but it also is harder for them to place that copyright claim on it.
@@RoXolid darn I wasn’t expecting it to though thanks for the response! I’ve been looking into live streaming some classic games and I’m trying to find the best console to do it on. your reviews have helped narrow it down! Thanks!!!
missed in the review real cheap plastic feel on the on/off button. flap again cheap plastic and after using it 25 times it does nolonger hold it closed.
+onehappynegro It wasn't missed. I don't have issues with the quality of the switch which has worked fine for me and I have not had issues with the flap staying closed. If I don't have issues in my testing there's nothing to cover.
You should definitely not buy this console if you look around everybody saying it melts the regular Nintendo entertainment system cartridges and I got it tried to play tech Mobile and one of my player tried to run forward he would turn around and run backwards sporadically all the time cuz the controllers are terrible I mean these controllers are the cheapest pieces of garbage I've ever seen if you really want one that's a good one the supertron HD from hyperkin that's the best one to get if you're not just going to go out and rebuy and SNES which is probably the best thing to do
Are you talking about the Retroport NES or Genesis adapters for SNES Systems? If so the thing on those adapters is the system simply provides power to the cart adapter, video output is handled separately from a port on the side. The console is basically just a power supply.
RoXolid Productions No. On the previous version of this system, the Super Retro Advance adapter worked on the system, (which is a GBA adapter). So, I was curious to see if that adapter still worked on this version of the system.
Not really surprised. The only Genesis clones that can do stereo are old Taiwan clones from the '90s. On a real Genesis you can definitely hear stereo separation at the start of level 1 in SoR2. Does the SNES side at least have stereo? Most other SNES clones seem to do stereo. Also Everdrives are not emulation since it plays the games on actual hardware.
I really wasn't back in the day, I owned a Genesis for a few months but I was primarily a Nintendo playerperiod in recent years however I've actually bought every single Sega Home console, from the Master System up through the Dreamcast.
Totally recommend. I love this thing.
One of my favorites as well!
for those wondering, the super retro trio plus works just fine with everdrive flash carts
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Do Master System games work with it via the Everdrive?
I have not gotten them to work myself
I would suggest you try to eliminate the problem with the game genies not working. It could be either a problem with the cartridge, system itself or the game genies. On the system I purchased for my son, the game genies all work fine.
What about unlicensed and repro games?
Buyer beware: If your tv doesn't support forcing a 720p signal to 4:3, you will be stuck with a horrendous 16:9 stretched picture.
+Will Mistretta True, there is no 4:3/16:9 switch which is covered in the video
@@RoXolid i agree with you 200% dude i cant STAND stretched video games or even videos on youtube where someone stretched the video it literally blows i have no idea how people can put up with a wrong looking image. im totally going to just get the retro trio 3 ( non plus) its cheaper and has s video and composite so no point in paying for the plus and wasting money when im not even going to use the HDMI on it. its annoying to toglle back and forth between 4:3 and 16:9 on your tv too so what a royal pain the plus system can be for some people
Still going to be 16:9 out of the av ports
Yeah, it's all too clear that if you want the games to play at their best, you're better off with the high-end systems (the FPGAs or Retron 5). These HDMI NOACs are made to be cheap, not necessarily good.
What about if you can change the settings on your TV to 4:3? Will it still be stretched?
RoXolid, your video needs more views. You don't give a lot of bullshit unboxing and discussion of the look of the machine. You get right to the games, play on camera with great capture, and actually show us what the playability is, discussing the minutiae of color, lag, sound, etc. Good on you, and i really appreciate your attention to the details that are actually important.
Well, thanks! I appreciate that. And the fact that the Spock in your avatar does NOT have a beard.
I'm glad you checked the 3 button Genesis pad. I originally thought it wasn't working properly, but after your review I went and took out another one I had in storage and it worked 100%! (I'll have to open up the original pad I tested with and see if there's anything I can fix on it) Given the choice, I'll always take the 3 button pad over the 6 button ones (too small and fiddly). It may not be significant, but I was able to get my SNES Game Genie working - with the exception of Super Mario All Stars, which gave a black screen just as you described. EDIT: I have to revise my assessment of 3 button compatibility after all. I first noticed that in Ms Pac-Man, I was having trouble getting it to recognize the pressing of the Start button. Then I put in the Genesis 6 Pak cart, and it wouldn't recognize any inputs at all! Games like Strider and Raiden Trad all worked normally with the pad, however. Very strange. EDIT 2: In retrospect, the fact I was getting different results at different times should have been an obvious clue. I broke out my can of electrical contact cleaner today, and sprayed it into the 9-pin socket of my 3 button controller - lo and behold, it is now working properly with every game on the SRT+. The lesson here is that even in storage, oxidation can take place on metal surfaces, and you can't take for granted that a 25-30 year old bit of equipment is going to be working as if it were in pristine condition. I'm definitely in for one of those new Sega licensed Genesis controllers Retrobit will be putting out this year!
+Greg Falkingham Thanks for the feedback
4:33 sounds like typical reverse duty cycles that so many NES clones suffer from. Cant mistake that coin and power up sound. The Retro Duo and RES have over amplified sound. The original Retro Trio (the one with the Genesis controller ports) actually does not have any issues (avoid the one with the SNES ports). Its one of the few. The only one I would recommend.
Are you talking about the RES or RES+? Because the RES+ has sound issues.
RoXolid Productions only the original RES.
@@pungisotu Gotcha. Haven't tried that one
As always, I appreciate your thorough and balanced review! I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before, but another game that really should be tested on all these clone consoles is Battletoads on the NES. Apparently many clones simply freeze up in the middle of Level 2, making the game unplayable unless you take a warp past it. That's a popular game, so it could be a dealbreaker for some people. But I don't think any of the big UA-cam reviewers bother to try that one out.
+ecmyersvids Thanks as always Eugene! I don't open a copy of Battletoads so I guess I need to get one!
There is a bug-fix patch that fixes the problem with clones having trouble with level 2 as well as fixing a problem with level 11 and not being able to complete it while playing with a friend! It also fixes some other bugs with Battletoads but those are the main ones that stand out for me! Just thought I'd throw this out there for anyone that is curious!
What a video! If I ever got a clone system, this would be it!
Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it!
I got mine on Amazon and let's just say . It was worth every penny . Because mine works just like a charm and . I got a 4K TV and the coloring is just right .
That's cool to hear
Thanks
I love retro gaming so this makes it better and more convenient
I had to give this vid another watch, I've got the Joe and Mac bundle I'm hoping to set my one up in a couple of days or so so that I can I see how Desert Strike runs on this unit. This comment could be very long but I'll keep it short, I really like Desert strike and I will know pretty early on how it runs on this. A hard game, made easier with turbo controllers but that feels a little cheaty. I might send you a random tweet on this soon as I must get my one out again (been boxed since I tested it out) I might test it against the At-games megadrive (the one that looks like a M,D or genesis) glad you liked this at the time,
This is MUCH better than the AtGames version!
Just ordered one hopefully I can play my Genesis games and have them look good on my hdtv thanks for the review
+Clever Dueñas I think the best strength of this system is the Genesis side, it's quite good. I hope you like it, and I'm glad I could help!
wait................. Did u just say u NEVER played Streets of Rage??
ur joking right.
+John Phillips #JeyDoeProductions Nintendo fan, I didn't have a Genesis! But man, I'm finding a TON of great games now that the war is over (which Nintendo won BTW, LOL).
RoXolid Productions are u a STEAM gamer?? if so PLEASE check out a title called the TAKEOVER. I don't know if u ever take requests or whatever, but I would love a review of that title from u sometime. 🖒
+John Phillips #JeyDoeProductions I've never looked into Stream honestly. I do take requests though.
It's too bad you didn't have any friends that owned a Genesis. My best and only friend growing up had a Genesis and I had the SNES. We would trade off consoles and bring one of the consoles to each others house to play together if we were spending the night. I got to have the best of both worlds and got to play Streets of Rage a lot with him Great times back then man.
+fireheartis1 We all had SNESes to be honest. In fact there was a friend of ours who had a Jaguar but no Genesis systems to be had. I owned one for about 6 months but only had Sonic 2 for it, eventually sold it for another SNES.
enjoyed watching, good work
Thanks so much!
I have the new black/blue version called the "Galaxy Edition". It seems to be the same black/blue console that was released in Europe, but with the video output changed from PAL to NTSC. The audio is strange in that the composite av-out has stereo sound, but the HDMI-out still only has mono sound. My old white/red version has mono sound on both the composite av-out and HDMI-out. I can't find any mention of this version anywhere, not even on Retro-bit's website. I just randomly saw some on ebay a few weeks ago.
Looks good but personally I'm more of a fan of hyperkin over retro bit. I feel they are good but a step back in quality with their controllers and design.... Not feeling the plain white
Have the Trio and the Trio+... both are fantastic! I've had no problems with all 3 Game Genies, as well, so they must have fixed this issue within the last year or two.
They work great with a CRT TV and an NES Zapper or Konami Justifier (Genesis, at least that Ive personally tried)!
Just don't bother with Decap Attack on Genesis (unless you have an original Model 1 or 2 Sega), or the Hudson Soft Super Multitap 2... I've had no luck with either. Otherwise, fantastic console!
Does the Mario/duck hunt combo cart work on this console?
Hi man! Sorry but what about Ghosts n' goblins? The music is allways messup in clone consoles. Does the light gun work with a crt tv? Does it play metroid? Thanks
Your videos are amazing, thank you! ❤
Thank you, I just need to get back to a regular production schedule
This is a fantastic video. Thanks so much. Any idea why the game genies don't work? I've got the older Retro Trio 3 and just discovered that my NES Game Genie doesn't work on it.
Thank you so much for checking it out and the kind words. I really don't know why it didn't work, I just know it didn't
RoXolid Productions Thanks for the quick response. Keep up the good work.
I have the european version but sfc cartride does not fit. I have to open the cart and put the pcb directly into the console for it to play.
great review thank you
Thanks for the kind words!
Great video brotha been debating on the classiq hd2 or this
I definitely prefer the Super Retro Trio+ over the Classiq 2
Hi Gary,Great console😎The Genesis games looked Amazing😎😎😎And for the first time playing SOR2,you played like a champ😎😎As far as the audio,I thought the Game boy games really sounded bad😔😔But overall fantastic machine and video😎😎😎😎😎😎
+Gio048 Yup, first time ever playing it. Cool game, glad I have it now!
Very well put together video. I was wondering if you could help me. With the region switch on the system does it work with all the systems or just Genesis as I've heard both? Thank you!
+EmperorOfTigers The region switch works with all 3.
RoXolid Productions That's great. Thank you!
RoXolid Productions That's great thank you. It seems like a really good system overall.
+EmperorOfTigers It is. It has a few hangnails but I do like it a lot.
RoXolid Productions Yeah like the NES part leaves some to be desired colour and sound wise. Also not working with Game Genie is a pain. Plus from what I've heard the NES part doesn't work with an EverDrive. Otherwise it seems like a really good experience and the colours they chose for the PAL version are awesome.
So far, the only cartridge I have encountered that won't play, is Virtua Racing. It seems to play every rom cartridge you throw at it, including Everdrives.
Virtua Racing is confirmed to not be compatible
bare in mind this is all hardware done and not emulation
Correct.
does this retrofit play all system games with the controllers it comes with? like if I buy this system and then just buy games, can I play all games with the equipped controllers?? im kinda confused is there more controller slots for your own system controllers? thank you
The included controllers okay everything, but you can also use NES, SNES, or Genesis controllers if you'd prefer
what was the issue u had that u had to contact retrobit about
Good video so far mate I'm still watching it, but I have got a question if this didn't have the name retro bit connected to it and instead had the name atgames connected to it . do you think this system would be slated cos of the sound.
+The Gamer Plus Slated because of the sound? Not quite understanding what you mean by Slated.
But I don't care who's nameplate is on this, I covered the sound issue and my disappointment quite well. Also the video quality on the SNES side was off in spots too. The Genesis side, to me a non-Genesis fanatic, I thought looked the best out of all-three systems. For a casual enthusiast who just wants to play Genesis, NES and SNES games this is a fine system, but it is not without its faults which I think I do a decent job of pointing out even though I don't dwell on them. I will say out of the 2 multi systems I have tried to this point, this one and the Classiq2, this is a MUCH better system than the Classiq2 and a better value.
RoXolid Productions I am still buying one myself and I respect your honestly . but people dislike atgames for one yes it was emulation that was like the retron 5, that rips the ROM of the cart but also it had so much bad reviews cos of the sound that it had a bad name for it . . nevermind about that lol anyway keep up good work
+The Gamer Plus I will say this is probably the best HD Genesis system I have played to this point. If you're looking for that alone it makes it worth it!
I had issues with the spotty game compatibility with the Atgames system. The onboard games were fine and the mainstream games were fine too but incompatibility with games like Sonic & Knuckles with Sonic 3 was a bummer.
RoXolid Productions would it work with the master system converter 2. By any chance.
I don't own one so I don't know. Physically I don't think it would fit however.
Streets Of Rage 2 sound is messed up!
Hi! Great video, very helpful. Which retro console would have better sound?
Depends on your budget. Under $100 is say the GamerzTek Super HD2. Over $100, the Retro USB AVS, Super Analogue NT & Mega Analogue NT
Thanks for the info@@RoXolid!
You're very welcome
If you were to cut out the Genesis slot from the equation, (I have a Mega Retron HD and cause the HD-2 don't have one) and we're just to compare the SNES and NES, which would you recommend. The super retro Trio Plus or the Gamerz Tek Super HD-2? They are both pretty close in price and I can't find a video comparing the two. The SNES looks great on both from what I can see but which NES is better? Also which has the better HDMI output. I really wanna do some game captures with whichever I get. Sorry for the long question. Thanks ahead of time.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, good question. They're very similar, but there are 2 questions you need to answer:
1) Do you want native 4:3 video or is 16:9 ok?
2) Do you plan on playing any PAL Games?
If the answer to either of these is yes, go with the Gamerz Tek Super HD2. If the answer to BOTH is no, go with the Super Retro Trio+. I hope this helps.
@@RoXolid I was leaning towards the HD-2. I don't plan on playing any PAL games and I do kinda want the 4:3 switch, I know technically I can edit the aspect ratio later before I upload but why add more work. This helps a bunch! Thanks Gary!
Yeah, you don't want to edit that, it never looks quite right.
If you're looking for a Super HD2 you can get it at the link below & support the channel:
www.amazon.com/dp/B07BH8J36T/?ref=exp_roxolidproductions_lv_dp_vv_mw
@@RoXolid Sounds good! Thanks!
I got one of these on Amazon and it was DOA. I would've liked it to have worked, but it just didn't play nice. My Oldskool 2 and my REtron 5 are fine with my TV, but the Retro Trio just wouldn't work with any carts or video settings. YMMV. It's the first DOA I have had since the Retron 2.
Update 11/25/18: My Retron 5 finally died (my 2nd one to do so) so I gave this another shot. It's working great out of the box (I was just unlucky I guess.) Saves on desk space. Retron 5's are apparently known for their shoddy build quality. (or so I've read.)
I purchased a Retron2 HD, the Snes games couldn't be launched 1st time (pins were not placed well), and my Mega Retron HD died about a week after being used. Retron consoles are over for me ! I hope better clone consoles, especially at the price they sell them ! Take care, and enjoy retro games !
yes it does work with Chinese ever drives and Chinese multicarts
Thanks John!
Does that include the NES one? I've heard nearly all of these clone systems can't handle a NES flash cart.
Madlittlepixel Ok thanks for clarifying. It's really weird how none of these companies can make a good enough clone to play NES flash carts and all Repros.
Is there any HD NES clone that can handle an EverDrive other than the NT mini or AVS of course?
Those controllers are Retro-Bit's normal SNES controllers. Not unique to the Retrocade. I have their wireless version. I've seen some black ones on Amazon. They had some other colors but they're hard to find.
They are different than what came with the standard Retro Trio+, those were red and black clones of SNES controllers basically
I don't agree with your flash cart, ever drive stance...it's not emulation like a modded wii or nes classic. It's only emulating the rom and it acts just like the real one for the most part. This allows me to protect my collection so not to worry about save states or cart degration when using hardware as intended for playing or on a clone system. It is an important tool for causal and core retro gamers alike.
+Zer01 I don't need yet another way to play the same game, know what I mean. Flash Carts aren't exactly cheap and, when you have 49 ways to play a game, at least to me, I don't need a 50th with little to no difference in performance
RoXolid Productions , that's understandable but for me..when I play original hardware I like to keep my collection with little use so it can last longer. A clone system and an everdrive offers this. The ever drive and multicart not only help reserve your collection but allows you to play expensive, un released and patched games. I have many ways of playing also, but there are times you want to play hard to get or unreleased on original or cloned hardware. It's nice to have options, every gamer is different.
I guess from my perspective you're doing the same thing just via a different method.
The HD cable has a darker screen then the A V cable.
Will it play the 196 in 1 games cartridge?
I don't that that specific one but it does play the multicarts I do have
Hey Gary,it’s me Gio,with my real name,no more Gio😞😞😞😞😞
+john D For why, what happened?
I just got this console and popped my Mike Tyson's Punch Out in. The game works fine, but the color is off. Anyone else having that problem or have a solution to fix this?
No fix, the color palette is slightly off on all these budget clone consoles
@@RoXolid OK thank you for the reply, I still had fun playing my old favorite game. Great video.
@@FurioGiunta-ji4xk thanks for checking it out! That's one of the things with clone systems, a lot of times it's the best of what you can get. for truly authentic sound and color palette you're going to want to go with a system that's based on an fpga those are truly beautiful but also hover at $200 and up.
Why would L be jump ? Odd
Why do you keep using a famicom game to review NES? Why not put in super mario for NES and see if the sound is off.
I have to apologize, for some reason this comment didn't pop up for me. So a few reasons. First, because it shows that it will work with the 60-to-72 pin adapter. Secondly, because except for a few minor tweaks it is the same game as the US version. And thirdly, because the performance is identical off camera between both the NES and Famicom version, so it is a good way to kill 2 birds with one stone, as it were.
@@RoXolid No worries. Why not compair the 2 and see if they do in fact sound the same or if US version sounds how it should
I've done that in different videos too
Great video man. What a thorough review. This system is on my want list. I hear the Pal system is a little better as it has also has a region switch for the snes side. As I live in the netherlands that's the system for me. Strange about the nes audio on this system. I own both ntsc and pal versions if the normal sr trio and there the nes audio is quite authentic. Don't understand why retrobit didn't use that same portion for this machine. Keep u the great vids. Love em!
+goemon74 Thanks!
Where can I find the Pal version? I have some NTSC games that I would like yo play here in Spain
If i got this could i crank the sharpness of the tv? Would that make snes and genesis less fuzzy? And How is the lag? Ive asked many and no one has answered.
+Skyler Caufield Lag did not seem to be an issue at all. You could Frank the sharpness but I don't know that the result would be desirable.
I'm not sure because mine works like a charm on my 4K TV . So I really don't have an answer for you . My only advice is just try it out . But I know mine works like a charm .
The whole reason people test Streets of Rage or is for the music bud I wish you didnt talk over it while you were playing its hard to hear if its accurate or not. good review aside from that people just care alot about the sound on genesis clones myself included.
Trust me I understand, there is actually a reason know why there's so much voice over. A lot of times if you have game music in a video the publisher will place a copyright claim on the video. By doing the voiceover you can still kind of hear the background music but it also is harder for them to place that copyright claim on it.
WHAT! Never played Streets of rage 2?😳
Prior to this I had not!
Are you still going to do the video for hyperkin #ShouldYouBuy
Absolutely! In fact check out my live stream archive from just last night as my testing is underway.
This could be great to use for cart testing and repairs. You can do it all on one machine.
Now does anyone know if you can use super game boy on it?
Yes, you can. I thought I showed that in the video? Now I have to double check!
battle toads on the NES????? does it get past level two?????
It does not
@@RoXolid darn I wasn’t expecting it to though
thanks for the response! I’ve been looking into live streaming some classic games and I’m trying to find the best console to do it on. your reviews have helped narrow it down! Thanks!!!
Thanks so much, I am glad I could help
Nice
Thank you
missed in the review real cheap plastic feel on the on/off button. flap again cheap plastic and after using it 25 times it does nolonger hold it closed.
+onehappynegro It wasn't missed. I don't have issues with the quality of the switch which has worked fine for me and I have not had issues with the flap staying closed. If I don't have issues in my testing there's nothing to cover.
I have this one and an everdrive for each system... Playing on a hacked wii it's not the same, emulation sucks (for me)
I have my original Hardware , gun, crt, system. Could use that to save space.
This will not work with light gun games, just a heads up
@@RoXolid not even on a CRT?
Nope
Do you know if rad racer 2 works on it ?
Pretty sure it does
@@RoXolid I know the hyperkin retrons it didn't work so I am wondering if it would work the super retro trio
I'm working on a review tonight anyways, I'll test it on the Retron for sure
You should definitely not buy this console if you look around everybody saying it melts the regular Nintendo entertainment system cartridges and I got it tried to play tech Mobile and one of my player tried to run forward he would turn around and run backwards sporadically all the time cuz the controllers are terrible I mean these controllers are the cheapest pieces of garbage I've ever seen if you really want one that's a good one the supertron HD from hyperkin that's the best one to get if you're not just going to go out and rebuy and SNES which is probably the best thing to do
I just wish someone would test the super retro adapter with this.
Are you talking about the Retroport NES or Genesis adapters for SNES Systems? If so the thing on those adapters is the system simply provides power to the cart adapter, video output is handled separately from a port on the side. The console is basically just a power supply.
RoXolid Productions No. On the previous version of this system, the Super Retro Advance adapter worked on the system, (which is a GBA adapter). So, I was curious to see if that adapter still worked on this version of the system.
I had never heard of it. I'll reach out to Retro-bit and see if we can get an answer.
RoXolid Productions It's a Retro Bit product.
+LelandHasGames I've reached out to Retro-bit to try to get an answer
Please test Robo Warrior
I don't own it, sorry :(
How about Ron hacks and sd2nes, etc...
+Anthony Amolochitis Please check the intro section of the video where I talk about Everdrives. I don't own any ROM hacks to try, sorry.
Not sure why they wouldn't. They're just repro/homebrew boards, and those worked fine on the original SRT.
Sir, how big is the tv behind you?
It's a 50"
RoXolid Productions thank you
It's a kinda junky Element 1080P Black Friday special I got in 2014.
No stereo sound.
+SaturnHST It didn't appear so in my edits, it looked like mono split to both left and right sides.
Not really surprised. The only Genesis clones that can do stereo are old Taiwan clones from the '90s. On a real Genesis you can definitely hear stereo separation at the start of level 1 in SoR2.
Does the SNES side at least have stereo? Most other SNES clones seem to do stereo.
Also Everdrives are not emulation since it plays the games on actual hardware.
+SaturnHST I wasn't seeing separate left and right audio differences when editing, I'd lean more towards mixed mono as well on SNES.
Guess you're not a SEGA guy lol
I really wasn't back in the day, I owned a Genesis for a few months but I was primarily a Nintendo playerperiod in recent years however I've actually bought every single Sega Home console, from the Master System up through the Dreamcast.
So you're basically saying emulation is better unless you're rich and wanna risk the games acting up
Quite the opposite. I prefer hardware solutions over emulation every time.