Retro Games in HD! Retro-bit Updated 2021 Super Retro Trio 3+ Review

[@connorplays6263]

The fact that this can play Sonic 3 & knuckles is more than enough for me to want to get this

[@RoXolid]

I get that

[@connorplays6263]

@@RoXolid does Sonic 3 & Knuckles work with the regular super retro trio 3 as well?

[@RoXolid]

It does

[@connorplays6263]

@@RoXolid okay good, because the regular super retro trio 3 is probably my only affordable option at the moment

[@RoXolid]

Gotcha

[@amolochitis30]

I would have thought that RetroBit would have improved it. They make some nice products. The 4:3 ratio would have made it way better value. I bet it does not work with the everdrives as well since it seems like it's more of the same. This was a really great video! Great job!

[@RoXolid]

I really think this was more of a refresh based on the new controller than anything

[@amolochitis30]

@@RoXolid I think you're right. I really like how the controller looks. It's also nice how the system has what I think of as the Big 3 systems that were just so popular.
For a casual gamer, the system is nice. Just that stretched image makes it a hard buy for me. I have the other retro trio system, but after a while I couldn't take that stretched image anymore since that is not how it looked when I grew up.

[@RoXolid]

I total get that

[@dwightdixon8508]

Agreed, While I can live with non 100% compatible and some sound discrepancies no 3:4 aspect ratio is definitely a disappointment, again

[@jeff97ish]

@@RoXolid I agree my
friend!

[@michaeltepaurel2257]

11:23 He doesn't want a Battletoads game for the glitch, not working 😂😂😂

[@RoXolid]

Huh?

[@jeff97ish]

I still have my original Super Retro Tio Plus and think it's an awesome product for the money. Well built too.

[@RoXolid]

Totally agree!

[@ootwii]

does.it play gauntlet nes correctly..

[@Retrosys]

How can they still not get the sounds right? These have been released for years and they’ve had so much time to improve it.

[@RoXolid]

This is pretty typical of budget clone systems. All are pretty similar in this vein

[@mrbungle589]

The SNES player on this thing looks and sounds like balls. I bought 2 and both had the same issue. I got 7 tvs so obviously its a crap console, read the Amazon reviews a ton of people have complained about it. JUNK!

[@RoXolid]

I've not had audio issues on SNES, but on NES for sure

[@TheHobbsTV]

Eye..."Clap".... denticle! Great movie

[@RoXolid]

YES! My biological clock was Ticking Like This waiting for someone to catch that reference!

[@demitrim8059]

I wish for retro bit super retrocade + that comes with ultra lowest latency with cores such as genesis plus gx that plays genesis, sega cd, game gear, and master system, snes9x, make 2003 plus, fb alpha, nes core, gba, gbc, gb, mp4, other arcade things, turbografx games and turbografx cd games with sd card slot.

[@onetwo6039]

My Vizio tv doesn't do 4:3.
As ridiculous as this sounds, I got a HDMI to S-Video converter and this way it will force a 4:3 picture with a better quality image via HDMI output on Sony CRT. Much better than the composite.
And plus you can use your own HDMI cable and AV cables instead of those jankie ones that it comes with.

[@ingesetiawan1831]

wow keren sekarang mesin permainan bisa masuk tiga kaset No.1 sega genesis No.2 super Nintendo (snes) No.3 Nintendo nes.

[@TwistedIdentity]

Love your videos, cool of you to show this one.
Also just a heads up, the audio is indeed off on the original system too for the Super Gameboy.

[@RoXolid]

I couldn't recall but thanks for confirming

[@TwistedIdentity]

Yep yep, np. Your original vid is what made me decide to go with the SRT3+. Cept I'm using a CRT, so it looks superb

[@NewYoutuber1111]

Earth worm jim a classic haven’t seen that game since a kid

[@RoXolid]

The first one is amazing, the 2nd one is good. The 3rd one? We don't talk about the 3rd one, no, no, no

[@LanDi2006]

The region switch on the srt 3 is for Genesis/megadrive only.. 😊

[@RoXolid]

Correct

[@JesusTuber]

Hello, congrats for the great video. I just got the Super Retro Trio Plus from Lukie Games. It comes with a 4:3 - 16:9 switch. I have a collection of European SNES games, some of them work, some others don't because they are region locked. So the region free feature for the SNES is not extensible to European cartridges.

[@mikey2toes966]

Got myself the Joe and Mac edition with the clear blue cart. Got it just before it sold out so am one lucky bastard.

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

I recently put in the clear shell for my SNES from Retro Game Restore. I also got a composite video adapter for the RAD2X Mega Drive/Sega Genesis model 2 that allows me to hook up my NES. Though I still intend to use my Hyperkin Retron 3 HD clone console for gaming for either of those platforms

[@TrumanJPray]

I wish Nintendo cared about preservation too many good games out there that people can’t play if they can’t get their hands on something like this specially

[@scottlinux]

That odd 'coin' sound in Super Mario Bros pretty much confirms the NES part is using a Dendy nes-on-a-chip (NOAC). Cheers,

[@RoXolid]

Not sure that it's Dendy-related but it is a SOC for sure.

[@peterharoldjanakjr2078]

Very cool. Although I would submit that in post, you could have manually resized your capture video so the game looked 4:3. Is the audio delay present in all the games?

[@RoXolid]

If you do that it crops the image or looks smashed.
Audio delay was due to my capture card

[@peterharoldjanakjr2078]

@@RoXolid it likes smashed now. By manually adjusting you can restore the original appearance. I don't know. Maybe you aren't using a real video editor prior to uploading to UA-cam.

[@RoXolid]

@@peterharoldjanakjr2078 I'm using professional editing software. You can't change the aspect ratio without either cropping or distorting. Beyond that, it wouldn't be an accurate representation of the video output.

[@ColdHighway7]

Its a nice little system I have the galaxy (blue and black version) from Lukie Games

[@RoXolid]

That's the PAL version, I liked the design a lot

[@johncassity3661]

I using the HDMI AV2
for my vcr player
works great

[@RoXolid]

That's what those are really best for, as there's no lag or latency to be concerned with. You do still get some signal loss, color loss, and audio issues.

[@TheBinoyVudi]

Is there any modern console (which also goes along with "clone", "not original") you would recommend, for us to get the original NES experience in terms of color-rendering + responsiveness + audio? If buying an old original NES is the only way to get the best out of the game, I'm willing to do that, because I don't want mario looking all dark brown, and the coins sound weird. Did anyone actually manage to make a precise hardware-based replica of the original NES? If yes, please tell me. I don't care about multi platform ("3in1", "NES/SNES/SEGA") support at this point. Your answer is greatly appreciated sir. Thank you again for all your great content. I've been binge watching your channel for 2 days now. Over 2-3 hours a day.

[@RoXolid]

For what you're looking for the Retro USB AVS is going to be your best option

[@TheBinoyVudi]

@@RoXolid thank you so much :)

[@TheBinoyVudi]

@@RoXolid wow. I am stunned. For all the Google searching I did, I couldn't find this. This one seems to be a hardware replica of the original NES with modern ports + the original proprietary NES controller ports. Exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you so so very much brother !!! You're the best.

[@RoXolid]

@@TheBinoyVudi You're very welcome

[@jengelenm]

Did you mention which slight software improvements were done? I might have missed it in the video...😱 Thanks for the review!

[@RoXolid]

None, I was hoping there would be some teaks but there wasn't.

[@lightspeedmurphy7546]

My TCL tv sadly doesn't do 4:3, it only does it for 480p signals. I was hoping it would of had a switch when I saw this in my feed and was a bit disappointed.

[@RoXolid]

Sorry to hear that, it's becoming more and more of an issue

[@lightspeedmurphy7546]

@@RoXolid I would at least wish for an hdmi switch box that has a 4:3 option for once

[@bowi1332]

If you already have an SNES, you should buy a scaler like the Mini.

[@RoXolid]

I don't disagree, the RetroTink Mini, Multiformat, and 5X are all awesome solutions, but those still require original hardware. Just the cost of the RetroTink is about the same as the cost of the SRT3+. It's all about what you value more, it's just awesome to have so many options.

[@willwidrick8039]

The sound issue doesn’t bother me too much. I have been debating whether I want to purchase this, for $80 sounds like a reasonable price

[@TheMuffinMan96]

It's $90.00 now (over $100.00 after shipping) I'm disappointed it won't be able to play Battle Toads but whatever I guess... Maybe I can get it modded to be able to do so. *Shrugs*

[@user-fz1xo3vs1v]

Doesn't that original one have a switch on it behind the front door for 4:3/16:9 that the new one doesn't have?

[@RoXolid]

Nope

[@user-fz1xo3vs1v]

@@RoXolid lol, I know I keep seeing one of these with that aspect ration switch. Must have been a revised model after. Hard to keep up with these when their own site continues to show a spot where that switch is with nothing there!

[@RoXolid]

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[@sergiovalencia3031]

The everdrive n8 pro does not work on clone systems. But Sd2snes and Mega Everdrive for the genesis do work.

[@RoXolid]

My belief has always been. If you're just going to use an EverDrive don't even bother with a clone system. Go at the retropie, it's less expensive and you get a better overall experience

[@davidaltieri1494]

The nes everdrive does not work on this newer hd version of The Super Retro Trio. But it works on the Retron 3 hd.

[@RoXolid]

I wouldn't know, I don't own any

[@TortillaBuenoGaming]

Hey, Gary! Wasn’t sure if you were aware, sometimes your mic audio cuts out for split seconds here and there, just a heads up if you hadn’t been told! Great video btw! ☺️

[@RoXolid]

Yes, it seems like there's interference in the new house, I'm still looking for solutions but thanks

[@CatEarDad]

I just bought this on Amazon and I feel like the NES games and sega games are fairly loose in their slots. If I just move it a bit, my games most likely will freeze or stop working in some way. Is this normal or did I get a lemon? 😅

[@RoXolid]

They are definitely looser than the originals

[@klawhauserscarfacethegamer3471]

I have one of those super trio plus I had it for like it 2 years and the sound went out on it so I traded it to the pawn shop but now I have a all three systems separately works better

[@jasonhowe1697]

why do people leave the nes in 4:3 mode on a widescreen tv when it can display 16:9 by default

[@RoXolid]

That's how the games were designed to be played. Plus, when you play in 16:9 parts of the top and bottom of the screen get cut off so you're actually seeing LESS of the game

[@gamertron1991]

In your honest opinion.....what is the best all in one clone console? That you would recommend to someone purchasing one in 2023 with your knowledge having tested and reviewed multiple

[@RoXolid]

So the Gamerz Tek Super HD2 is really good, but I don't know that they're still in business. If your TV can do 4:3 then I'd go with the Super Retro Trio 3+, if not then the Retron 3 HD or Retron 5.

[@gamertron1991]

@@RoXolid thanks for response 👍 I just got an av to hdmi for my original super retro trio (non HD version) as didn't want to spend £100 on another one just for the hdmi port it has, I am also very interested in the cyber gadget retro freak seems like a very neat device but not the easiest to get hold without a hefty price

[@davidaltieri1494]

I have the older version of the Super Retro Trio (only composite) it's blue and white. It has some flickering on Genesis games. Wonder if cleaning the Genesis will help.

[@RoXolid]

It wouldn't hurt, that's for sure!

[@xXRustyShacklefordXx]

Really wish they would get the audio issues fixed on clone systems. The slight color variances don't bug me but that reverse duty cycle on NES makes my ears hurt. Also the jump sound on super Mario world was off as well for SNES. Really just goes to show how excellent the sound design by nintendo was in the first place.

[@RoXolid]

It is, and it's unfortunate

[@xXRustyShacklefordXx]

@@RoXolid love the channel though dude and even though you get sponsored by these guys I appreciate the authenticity. Can't wait for your channel to blow up!

[@RoXolid]

I'm not sponsored by anyone Just so you know. Companies may send product for review but they're not paying for review

[@h.junior8218]

hello, do you know if cartridges of the original japanese famicon |(not super famicon) works in this console? thank you very much

[@RoXolid]

With a 60 to 72 pin adapter, yes

[@johnbesse6314]

Will you check the compatibility of Battletoads NES with the 1st version to check if it works? I haven't been able to check my unit recently because my family is in the middle of moving. I swear it worked with my 1st revision but I don't remember for sure.

[@RoXolid]

It does not work

[@DarthLoloX]

Hi ! Is it compatible with Famicom Disk System? Is it an emulation box with the new version? Regards

[@RoXolid]

No, this is not emulation, this is hardware, and it is not compatible with the FDS.

[@jeff97ish]

Hey Gary! Sorry I am so late viewing your videos. Just a lot going on.

[@RoXolid]

I've said in the past we'll be here my friend, this is silliness, you deal with what's going on :)

[@jeff97ish]

@@RoXolid thanks my friend!

[@RoXolid]

Of course man!

[@thegirdybird]

Maybe I missed it but,does this console play super famicom games?

[@RoXolid]

I'd have to rewatch but it does

[@thegirdybird]

@@RoXolid thank you. Couldn’t find a straight answer anywhere.

[@RoXolid]

Of course

[@braddahl2098]

Show me that 4:3 toggle!

[@RoXolid]

Doesn't...exist :( And I do cover it

[@RoXolid]

Technically I do show a 4:3 toggle...

[@tomflanagan3889]

No 4:3, no deal. My tv doesn't have a 4:3 option. I have always thought about getting this or the retron 3 but ultimately never do. I like the 3 in 1 and the plug and play aspect but there is always a flaw that gives me pause. I have a retrotink classic and a CRT so I guess it's more of a curiosity then a need.

[@ahmedalzaabi2261]

I own original Super Retro Trio 3+ and it doesn't work with NES Everdrive, so I want to know if Everdrive works with the new version. I do know the first old version of Super retro trio works with Everdrive of NES, SNES and SEGA.

[@RoXolid]

I don't own one to test, sorry. My feeling is if you're going to use an Everdrive on a Clone system just bypass all the hardware and go with a Retropi. Fewer issues and much cheaper

[@stephenkostiak3929]

Can I use this on a regular television instead of an HD television?

[@RoXolid]

Yes, it has composite video outputs

[@johnrowen4604]

Mine has an aspect ratio switch on it .

[@RoXolid]

Really? That's awesome!

[@johnrowen4604]

I like this clone console more than others.

[@chuy-retro-gamer1231]

Me encanta el retro trío y tus vídeos, saludos

[@RoXolid]

Muchas gracias por las amables palabras, ¡se lo agradezco mucho!

[@johnrowen4604]

Does this play Super famicom games ?

[@RoXolid]

Yes

[@realroyu]

is this srt3+ stereo or mix When playing md or sfc games？I bought one but no stereo sound. Thanks.

[@RoXolid]

Check the rings on Sonic, it should switch from left to right.

[@realroyu]

@@RoXolid That means yours is stereo,thanks. Could you please make a vid about the sound of retroN 3 hd, SRT3+(old ver.) and SRT3+ (new ver. different controllers) especially for stereo or mix mono via hdmi and av . I bought a new ver. Str3+, it mixes channels both via hdmi and av. I am wondering why me, bad luck? Does the manufacturer always change the hardware or circuit board?

[@roberthartley4372]

i was wondering if you think a gc loader is a good idea? and if it is what would be the best way to go about it, and is it hard to find game files to put on it?

[@RoXolid]

I don't think it's a good idea, but I have a pretty hard stance against downloading games you don't own. I'm very pro copyright

[@roberthartley4372]

@@RoXolid ok thanks i never had a gamecube growing up, i bought a spice orange one a lone while back. made it play american games, but some of the games for it cost alot.

[@RoXolid]

@@roberthartley4372 I get that, but for me, cost doesn't matter when it comes to copyright.

[@360zm4]

Thankfully the controllers are modeled after the SNES and not the NES, I hate the NES controllers.

[@RoXolid]

I liked the original NES controller but LOVED the NES Dogbone controller

[@lagarto89]

I did tests with the battletoads jp in the retrotrio hdmi and it runs without problems. it would be relevant to continue doing jp pal or ntsc tests of the games that have problems. Hope it helps

[@RoXolid]

The PAL & Japanese ROMs are slightly different and aren't known for having the same issues as the USA version

[@lagarto89]

@@RoXolid sorry, never see before or read something about that. Nice to known

[@RoXolid]

I didn't know myself until a few years ago. But they patched the issue with those later releases

[@Dorkalicious]

I see your Sega CD games, got snaTcher?

[@RoXolid]

You need to check out my coverage from Midwest Gaming Classic ;)

[@EmperorOfTigers]

Well that's disappointing... I was really hoping they would have made improvements to the actual system. It's 2021 nearly 2022, having no 4:3 and the NES part having reverse duty cycles really isn't acceptable.
Then there is the poor SGB audio.
It is a shame because otherwise video quality looks pretty good and the game compatibility is probably good enough.

[@RoXolid]

Same system, new controller. It's still decent but they really haven't addressed the flaws

[@Dalandow]

I've had mine for a few months. Really enjoyed my purchase thus far. I do have a question though. Is there a list of games that aren't compatible with this clone console. I have TMNT for the NES and it will not work. The game is in pristine condition, but I do not have an NES to try it on.

[@RoXolid]

The first turtles game? I thought it worked? I could swear it worked! Battletoads will not work, and that's really the only one I've run into. At least on the NES side, virtual racing doesn't work on the Genesis side

[@Dalandow]

@@RoXolid Maybe it's just the copy I have then. I took it apart to clean and used a multimeter to to test it and everything looked and worked fine. The copy I got was so clean I almost thought it was a reproduction at first until I seen the board inside of it.

[@JorgeRodriguez-ny4lm]

Hi, does it work with the TMNT arcade game?

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

But what...about...the...lag...?

[@RoXolid]

I don't really have a way to measure it, but I address lag and delay specifically while playing Earthworm Jim.

[@MultimediaJay]

The Retro Duo got NES sound right. The original Super Retro Trio got the sound right. This updated one screws it up like a Yobo box. 😕

[@RoXolid]

Becuase the issue is the HDMI output, not the composite. If you go from composite to your TV on this, the audio is fine

[@MultimediaJay]

@@RoXolid Seriously? You're going to pick at that little detail instead of demanding it be fixed? One of the big reasons to buy these clones is to use HDMI on them, so yeah, the HDMI audio output needs to get the synths correct as well.

[@RoXolid]

Um, I wasn't defending the situation I was simply explaining it. At this point, none of the manufacturers are going to fix it. It's been going on for over 5 years, and at this price point it's more about finding the least offensive as they all get the audio wrong. I completely agree, if you're buying an HDMI equipped system the reason why is because you want to use HDMI. And the fact that after all this time they still can't get the audio right, it's very discouraging. It's also something I call out in every single review

[@MultimediaJay]

@@RoXolid Keep on keepin' on then. 🙂 It'll keep a market around for emulation-based clone boxes at least. 🙂

[@MultimediaJay]

@@RoXolid Actually why not make a video showing that the HDMI introduces the synthesizer mixups if that's the case? I was just skeptical because the flipped synths have been going on with NES clones since the Yobo boxes of the 2000s.

[@killerkazi78]

I like your bad box art mega man t-shirt

[@RoXolid]

That was actually from the 2018 Portland Retro Gaming Expo!

[@pctechjustin]

Hows is the input lag?

[@RoXolid]

It's there but not terrible. It doesn't break the games for example

[@mahalmousito8079]

where to get one?

[@RoXolid]

Check the pinned comment, the link is there

[@ootwii]

does.it play gauntlet nes correctly??most.clones has the map missed up..

[@RoXolid]

I don't own it to test, sorry.

[@ootwii]

@@RoXolid i luv the reviews...keep em comin..

[@RoXolid]

That's the plan

[@ootwii]

@@RoXolid cant wait...i luv the retron 3 hd vs super retro trio plus face off.udo great work gary..

[@takwu0]

i got one of these after watching all the great reviews. but one thing i still havent tried is PAL master system games with a power base mini.
i got the adapter and some ntsc games, but boy are they pricey. pal region has famously purchased a lot more sms games so even on ebay pal copies are cheaper.
so the question is, will they work?
btw i got the normal power base mini, not the fm one. i grew up playing those games without fm anyways.
thanks!

[@RoXolid]

I think so but not 100%

[@KenSch2020]

There are some things that game system doesn't do very good but at least Sonic 3 and Knuckles rings sounds right and so do the springs and the music is right on I am glad it doesn't sound like the way the AT games Genesis and handhelds sounded.

[@RoXolid]

Agreed

[@danielbetham80]

is this compatible with PAL region games?

[@RoXolid]

I cover this and play PAL games in the video

[@danielbetham80]

@@RoXolid awesome thanks yea saw that. Wasnt fully through the video when i asked! Thanks for that

[@RoXolid]

Of course

[@RoXolid]

@@danielbetham80 You are very welcome

[@BAR-ct7ti]

Super Mario All Stars would not work in my Retro Trio

[@RoXolid]

Interesting, it does in mine

[@BAR-ct7ti]

@@RoXolid probably because you got an updated version.

[@RoXolid]

@@BAR-ct7ti I have the original and the new version, works in both

[@Boswd]

We're just got one in.... This one actually has a 4:3 16:9 toggle switch on the front which was a nice surprise..... Also is it normal for NES cartridges to be so hard to pull out of the system? I mean it's really difficult, i worry we'll break the pins

[@RoXolid]

No, not normally hard to remove.
I'll have to reach out to my contact at Retro-bit!

[@Boswd]

@@RoXolid thanks

[@RICANPAPY27]

This play the marios games donkey kong country

[@RoXolid]

It does

[@RICANPAPY27]

@@RoXolid witch one is better solution hyperkin retro 3

[@RICANPAPY27]

@@RoXolid with is better this or retron 3

[@RoXolid]

@@RICANPAPY27 I would suggest checking out the comparison video I did on that subject. The Retro-bit does some things better, and the Hyperkin does other things better.
ua-cam.com/video/yGzqiVrI9Xk/v-deo.html

[@RICANPAPY27]

@@RoXolid thanks

[@MeDecade]

I couldn't care less about the sound differences. It's the aspect ratio that's the dealbreaker for me. 😡

[@RoXolid]

If your TV can force 4:3 then the aspect ratio doesn't matter on the system, but the audio is off on any TV

[@benjaminyoung9694]

This thing has waaaay too much input delay

[@RoXolid]

Not really, nothing that's super noticable.

[@bryansteele832]

The controllers this comes with are absolute junk. Also it will not play Duck tales (nes) and Rad Racer (nes). It also does work with with a NES controller for crap. SNES the audio is a little over modulated, but genesis games run beautifully

[@RoXolid]

I have not had any issues playing those exact games on my system with the stock controller

[@noodles4773]

80 bucks for this thing???? maybe if it was 40 ......maybe.

[@RoXolid]

Yeah, no. Maybe $40 for just one system, but even with the flaws on the NES-side it's still a decent value

[@VideoGameXDomain]

Hyperkin is a better deal for their systems. Retro Bit is still good but always seem a tad behind hyperkin

[@BakiX]

Yup, still garbage alright.

[@RoXolid]

Not garbage, not by a long shot, but also not flawless, not by a long shot. The SNES and Genesis sides are decent