Thanks mate, enjoyed that. I have recently upgraded from an old Logitech DFGT (with its floppy plastic pedals). I got it 2nd with a P1 wheel. The upgrade is simply night and day from the DFGT, which for what it was was actually a great budget wheel, many, many years ago. The C.S.W. 2.5. Wow, i mean wow! Always wanted a decent rig rather than a wheel clamped to a wobbly desk, which ive put up with for a very, very long time. Funnily enough the guy a bought the CSW from, had just upgraded to a DD1. He said pretty much exactly what you have when i asked him how the upgrade felt. He said the jump to the CSW was huge, but when he jumped to the DD1 did'nt really feel the difference he expected. I guess its like the law of diminishing returns. I used to work in a shop selling high end Hi Fi, v much the same thing the more you spend, the smaller the noticable improvements, unless you downgrade, like a well tuned sub, does'nt seem to make much of a difference at first to you existing front speakers, but you miss it when you turn it off.
I just replaced the venerable DFGT with a CSL Elite + Formula V2 (got used to all the buttons and no other wheel comes close without spending double!). While I know the CSL isn't as smooth or strong as the 2.5, it is so much better than a worn out logitech. I can't be happier, everything feels better. It's good to know that we get our money's worth with these wheel bases, and a DD isn't /too much/ different. Just like you said, the same with speakers.
A fellow bearded sim racer! I am still pretty newb to sim racing and i'm about to upgrade from a non ffb wheel to a csw 2.5 in the next few months! This was helpful! Cheers
Hi there, nice review and opinion made. I agree, the step from CSW to DD is much less, than from a cheaper FF to CSW. If weight matters more than precission, the CSW is the pick. I personally would skip the monitors, use the DD and head towards VR with a good motion compensation for the motion rig. (As I did) The difference (even pixels are more present due to short distance) is like watching a BBC documentary about the great barrier reef and snorkeling there. You are no longer in front of a game, you are inside.
I agree, I would certainly go with the DD vs the tripples if I were in that position. The dd1 is far and away the biggest upgrade that I have ever made in sim racing. I find the difference between the dd1 and my csl elite ps4 to be night and day. I would honestly rather have a fixed rig with the dd1 a butt kicker and the monitors.
I select CSW 2.5 to start sim racing, but due to limitation setup (no space for a rig) it's also the best solution for me. The DD1 or DD2 require a reliable RIG to support it. For my needs the CSW 2.5 is an high end solution.
Always l appreciste your insight. I asked you about the H2 vs H3 previously and gave the same great insight and went with H2 taking your advice. I couldn't be happier with that decision.
Jeg syns at Clubsport V2,5 er fantastik Force Feedback godt produkt kvalitet i forhold til de nye DD 8 Nm et perfekt , aldrig køre 100% på den med Force gør ondt i arm 💪🏼👍
this is actually a good ''review'' i guess you could say for the DD1, its really good and improves on everything the clubsport base does but you dont lose any of the feedback with the clubsport, a rumble strip still feels like a rumble strip and bumps still feel like bumps, ive had the DD1 almost a week now id say, coming straight from a csw 2.5 and its amazing, everything is sooo impactful, immediate and sharp, the headroom actually makes the power come through really clean... for example if you put the csw 2.5 to 100 percent feedback and your choice of game to that aswell so your asking for the full 8nm the base offers you will get clipping, it will lose some fidelity. running the DD1 at around 60 percent i get max peaks of around 12nm and it feels clean, no drama, strong but manageable unlike the 2.5 at its full capability its all a bit heavy, messy and not as intended. with that said the DD1 is very much like playing at 4k, after a week of 4k and going back to 1080p or the csw in this case its clear what shortcomings the 1080p has but... use that for a week and you can adjust to it and enjoy it. and thats the truth about DD bases in general, they are the pinacle of force feedback but still too expensive to be worth jumping from a csw 2.5 which is very good to begin with. ill keep the DD1 because i can afford to do so but ill probably always recommend the csw 2.5 to anybody that asks because its one hell of a wheelbase for the money.
You can get a good experience with a TX or T300 as well, granted the build quality is nowhere near csw and it is less powerful and smooth, but once set up and once driving it’s good enough, and to me, good enough is where value ends and serious diminishing returns begins. I still use 1080p triple 24inch 60htz monitors (HP 5MS TN panels, total cost £50 each off eBay) with a TX wheel base and CSR Elite pedals and it’s ‘good enough’. I would draw the line at Logitech wheels, I ran a G27 for over 10 years and it’s just not good enough anymore, too light, too notchy and just not anywhere near as good as a TX or T300. My brother has a CSW 2.5, I’ve tried it and yes it’s a bit stronger and a bit smoother but not chalk and cheese by any stretch, not like going from a G27 to a TX, I suspect it’s a similar story going from csw to DD.on top of that, I’ve found some wheels feel better with some games more than others so it does depend on how developers program their ffb, that can make more difference than a wheel upgrade!
You are paying twice the price for 10% more performance, it’s like driving a high end pair of speakers with a £300 amplifier and then going to a 3K high current amplifier, both play the same music, but it just sounds more effortless and refined with the 3K amp.But you can still enjoy music on a £25 blue tooth speaker!... it depends what you want and where your personal diminishing returns threshold ends.
owning both for a while now......i really like them both...... considering the price yep i would stay with the clubsport too......... but that said i'm selling my 2,5 on ebay next week.....
As someone with a terrible back injury and still recovering from multiple surgeries, i appreciate a reviewer mentioning weight/torque considerations! Its a factor for me, and in the many sim hardware reviews of DD bases, its really not a concern for most people. I do wonder what i am missing out on, but for now the CSW is the better rig for me a lighter cockpit as well. also....where did you order those tablet mounts for the csw? Ive seen a few different ones that are compatible, thx.
The tablet isn't mounted to the CSW its just in one of these below linked covers and the cover is screwed to the same mount plate as the the CSW (plywood), I added an angled wood piece to get the angle. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L7RPSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
What if you had a stronger rig? The stronger rig would translate even more details as I am sure some are being lost in the vibration of the rig. The direct drive wheels do lead you down a rabbit hole of upgrading things.
And that is exactly what the marketers want, they want you to keep spending on stuff you really don’t need, it’s called consumerism and it keeps these companies in business. Spending multiple thousands of pounds (excluding the pc and screens) to effectively play a racing game is getting a little bit daft, I guess that’s why the marketers are now calling it ‘sim racing’ not gaming.They are sending kit to influencers and spending loads getting their adverts into games. ‘Consumerism’... marketing to convince people to buy stuff that they really don’t need! HiFi was another one that did the same, they got people to part with thousands for a speaker cable, interconnect etc based on marketing bullshit and ‘some’ people fall for it every time.
@@paulkelleway8032 Horses for courses really. I started sim racing in 2017 with a G27 wheel and a Next Level Racing rig and recently upgraded the whole thing to an 8020 rig, Podium F1 DD1 wheel combination and Clubsport V3 pedals well as an SFX100 motion simulator and I'm very pleased with the result. I do not watch mainstream tv and always mute or switch off ads on Bootube so my decisions are based on what I want for myself. So I would urge others to think for themselves and take responsibility for your own actions and then you may possibly realise that you can free yourself from the "marketing bullshit" and all the other lies and deceit that we are all being subjected to. Learn to take back your own true self is my advice.
not the ringing endorsement i was expecting. i was looking to move from the CSW 2.5 to the DD1 expecting to feel a lot more of the road. Doesnt seem to be much of an improvement considering $1200 + 400 for a wheel.
Great vid! I appreciate the insight. I'm curious, is that a tablet you have mounted under your CSW? Would you share some info on the mechanism there? TY
Sure these are old Fire Kids tablets that i had lying around after upgrading the kids to newer tablets. I run Sim dashboard on them www.stryder-it.de/simdashboard/ it should work with most android devices but if you want to run it on fire tablets you first need to enable play store, here is the walkthrough to enable play store ua-cam.com/video/n58XopeWj5M/v-deo.html
@@MaddogBC4 the CSW is attached to a plywood board so i just cut an angles wood piece that i added to the end then made two oversized under sink holes in it and mounted the cover with a couple of wood screws. the covers is rubber so its easy to makes holes in it and to insert the tablet into the mounted cover, It sounds more complicated than it really is :) this is the cover btw: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L7RPSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That is an itch that can only be scratched by trying one. If you know someone that has one you should ask if you can try it and I don't think you will be amazed it is better than the 2.5 but not amazingly better. If you are like me and dont know anyone then the only way to scratch that itch is to buy one. I felt more of a difference when going back then when upgrading and I did miss the DD1 a bit for about a week or two.
Nice review and setup, looks to be a nice channel as well! :) I thought the same about going from the CSW 2.5 to a DD1, the DD1 is better and stronger, but really not a huge deal that everyone with a DD wanted it to sound like.. Kept my DD1 though, but if you are on a budget it's not worth the upgrade imo. You thought the DD1 and monitors makes the rig to heavy, have you ever looked into VR?
yeah I have vr also but dont use it much after getting the trips. VR is more immersive but it also causes me eye strain, sweaty face in long sessions and worst off all I cant pick my nose :D
You should feel it now that the latest drivers are out its insanely better then it was lol huge not small but huge difference lol insane levels of detail and responsiveness road detials are so improved now its just much better then it used to be at first alot fo us thought damn not much different then the cswv2.5 in feel of course it was stronger but that was about it with fine drtial improvements but now there is a clear defined difference lol
So I went dd+ its way way better way way way way better. Had the dd pro the dd+ is 10x better. Go get it for sure. Even with the issues with customer service. In stock items ship fast right now with the new logistics.
haha, with the notable exception of the pedals I don't think any of the upgrades make me faster some like the motion might even make me slower, but they all add to the immersion and allow me to enjoy this hobby a little more.
Thanks. I am looking to upgrade to the clubsport. I could not follow what you were saying about the quick release mechanism. Does the clubsport have a true quick release? Ie without the need for screws? Or do you need to have DD or cal elite wheel for that?
Yes it does I change wheels a lot and newer put in the set screw, Im pretty sure Fanatec also said its un-necessary with the CS quick release. the clubsport and podium (dd) wheels are interchangeable and I believe they also fit the CSL base but the CSL wheels are not Quick release and some (most) will require a screw
@@SimsRUs WHAT downsides of VR? To me it's no comparison, even with running a Rift CV1 I still prefer the immersion and the real 3D distance feeling over the wider FOV... The ONLY thing I miss with VR is not being able to see the button boxes and any other add-ons you have (which you seem to have a few).
@@mikekopack6441 not everyone has the same experience but for me the downsides are eye strain, sweaty face (CV1 gets hot), nausea, and you can actually enjoy a cup of coffee and pick your nose while playing, that last one is super important
Sims R Us the nausea usually goes away with more time using it. I cut down the sweat issue by having a small desk fan blowing on my face. And there are always straws ;)
FYI, the Rift CV1 is now over 4.5 years old. Depending how you're counting, that's probably at least two generations. I bought a Vive on release and sold it 2 weeks later because the resolution just wasn't there and I wanted a training tool to use more reference points for motorbike racing but ended up driving more by the seat of my pants as a result. That's not true anymore with things approaching the ppd of the Quest 2 or HP Reverb.
DD1 is great when it works but trust me for no reason it will stop working and FANATEC do not help you in anyway with their support I totally regret buying the DD1 months of shipping costs no racing and still a brand new DD1 not working.
I was thinking the same thing, but I guess if playing Codemasters games without proper triple support it would look better flattening the angle. But the correct angle makes all screens the same distance from your eyes. For me at 57cms from eyes is 56 degrees. Great news about the CSWv2.5 being good enough. I have a CSWv2 not 2.5 and live it but always feel I need the DD. I will put those thoughts on hold for a while now thanks.
how so? these are R1200 curve monitors and they follow that curve to fully wrap around my field of view. camera angles can be misleading as they representing a 2d view of a 3d space. If you check out some of my other videos you can see how the monitors fully wrap around including one top down video.
@@SimsRUs following in the 1200 curve does not make it correct. If you sit in your car and look at the left side window at the b pillar it would be more or less to your immediate left not 4ft away and in front of you
@@NobbyScott Nothing is 4 foot away, screen area on all 3 monitors is within 75-85cm of the eyeball which is what achieving consistent distance from eye to screen and allows you to look around without requiring your eye to refocus. Ultimately this is personal preference though and if you like your left monitor as close as a car door that's your preference and the right choice for you.
A reasonable man. Very rare nowadays. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks mate, enjoyed that. I have recently upgraded from an old Logitech DFGT (with its floppy plastic pedals). I got it 2nd with a P1 wheel. The upgrade is simply night and day from the DFGT, which for what it was was actually a great budget wheel, many, many years ago. The C.S.W. 2.5. Wow, i mean wow! Always wanted a decent rig rather than a wheel clamped to a wobbly desk, which ive put up with for a very, very long time. Funnily enough the guy a bought the CSW from, had just upgraded to a DD1. He said pretty much exactly what you have when i asked him how the upgrade felt. He said the jump to the CSW was huge, but when he jumped to the DD1 did'nt really feel the difference he expected. I guess its like the law of diminishing returns. I used to work in a shop selling high end Hi Fi, v much the same thing the more you spend, the smaller the noticable improvements, unless you downgrade, like a well tuned sub, does'nt seem to make much of a difference at first to you existing front speakers, but you miss it when you turn it off.
I just replaced the venerable DFGT with a CSL Elite + Formula V2 (got used to all the buttons and no other wheel comes close without spending double!). While I know the CSL isn't as smooth or strong as the 2.5, it is so much better than a worn out logitech. I can't be happier, everything feels better. It's good to know that we get our money's worth with these wheel bases, and a DD isn't /too much/ different. Just like you said, the same with speakers.
A fellow bearded sim racer! I am still pretty newb to sim racing and i'm about to upgrade from a non ffb wheel to a csw 2.5 in the next few months! This was helpful! Cheers
Hi there, nice review and opinion made. I agree, the step from CSW to DD is much less, than from a cheaper FF to CSW. If weight matters more than precission, the CSW is the pick. I personally would skip the monitors, use the DD and head towards VR with a good motion compensation for the motion rig. (As I did) The difference (even pixels are more present due to short distance) is like watching a BBC documentary about the great barrier reef and snorkeling there. You are no longer in front of a game, you are inside.
I agree, I would certainly go with the DD vs the tripples if I were in that position. The dd1 is far and away the biggest upgrade that I have ever made in sim racing. I find the difference between the dd1 and my csl elite ps4 to be night and day. I would honestly rather have a fixed rig with the dd1 a butt kicker and the monitors.
That setup is so sick. One day I am gonna build one
I select CSW 2.5 to start sim racing, but due to limitation setup (no space for a rig) it's also the best solution for me.
The DD1 or DD2 require a reliable RIG to support it.
For my needs the CSW 2.5 is an high end solution.
Always l appreciste your insight. I asked you about the H2 vs H3 previously and gave the same great insight and went with H2 taking your advice. I couldn't be happier with that decision.
Excellent, I’m glad you are enjoying it!
Jeg syns at Clubsport V2,5 er fantastik Force Feedback godt produkt kvalitet i forhold til de nye DD 8 Nm et perfekt , aldrig køre 100% på den med Force gør ondt i arm 💪🏼👍
Thanks mate
Exactly what i needed
this is actually a good ''review'' i guess you could say for the DD1, its really good and improves on everything the clubsport base does but you dont lose any of the feedback with the clubsport, a rumble strip still feels like a rumble strip and bumps still feel like bumps, ive had the DD1 almost a week now id say, coming straight from a csw 2.5 and its amazing, everything is sooo impactful, immediate and sharp, the headroom actually makes the power come through really clean... for example if you put the csw 2.5 to 100 percent feedback and your choice of game to that aswell so your asking for the full 8nm the base offers you will get clipping, it will lose some fidelity. running the DD1 at around 60 percent i get max peaks of around 12nm and it feels clean, no drama, strong but manageable unlike the 2.5 at its full capability its all a bit heavy, messy and not as intended.
with that said the DD1 is very much like playing at 4k, after a week of 4k and going back to 1080p or the csw in this case its clear what shortcomings the 1080p has but... use that for a week and you can adjust to it and enjoy it.
and thats the truth about DD bases in general, they are the pinacle of force feedback but still too expensive to be worth jumping from a csw 2.5 which is very good to begin with. ill keep the DD1 because i can afford to do so but ill probably always recommend the csw 2.5 to anybody that asks because its one hell of a wheelbase for the money.
I’m looking at$1000 for a Accuforce. CSW 2.5 is $550
You can get a good experience with a TX or T300 as well, granted the build quality is nowhere near csw and it is less powerful and smooth, but once set up and once driving it’s good enough, and to me, good enough is where value ends and serious diminishing returns begins. I still use 1080p triple 24inch 60htz monitors (HP 5MS TN panels, total cost £50 each off eBay) with a TX wheel base and CSR Elite pedals and it’s ‘good enough’. I would draw the line at Logitech wheels, I ran a G27 for over 10 years and it’s just not good enough anymore, too light, too notchy and just not anywhere near as good as a TX or T300. My brother has a CSW 2.5, I’ve tried it and yes it’s a bit stronger and a bit smoother but not chalk and cheese by any stretch, not like going from a G27 to a TX, I suspect it’s a similar story going from csw to DD.on top of that, I’ve found some wheels feel better with some games more than others so it does depend on how developers program their ffb, that can make more difference than a wheel upgrade!
You are paying twice the price for 10% more performance, it’s like driving a high end pair of speakers with a £300 amplifier and then going to a 3K high current amplifier, both play the same music, but it just sounds more effortless and refined with the 3K amp.But you can still enjoy music on a £25 blue tooth speaker!... it depends what you want and where your personal diminishing returns threshold ends.
owning both for a while now......i really like them both...... considering the price yep i would stay with the clubsport too......... but that said i'm selling my 2,5 on ebay next week.....
As someone with a terrible back injury and still recovering from multiple surgeries, i appreciate a reviewer mentioning weight/torque considerations! Its a factor for me, and in the many sim hardware reviews of DD bases, its really not a concern for most people. I do wonder what i am missing out on, but for now the CSW is the better rig for me a lighter cockpit as well. also....where did you order those tablet mounts for the csw? Ive seen a few different ones that are compatible, thx.
The tablet isn't mounted to the CSW its just in one of these below linked covers and the cover is screwed to the same mount plate as the the CSW (plywood), I added an angled wood piece to get the angle.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L7RPSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
What if you had a stronger rig? The stronger rig would translate even more details as I am sure some are being lost in the vibration of the rig. The direct drive wheels do lead you down a rabbit hole of upgrading things.
yeah Im thinking of building one that can handle 6DOF with more weight, when and if I do that ill likely go back to DD
And that is exactly what the marketers want, they want you to keep spending on stuff you really don’t need, it’s called consumerism and it keeps these companies in business. Spending multiple thousands of pounds (excluding the pc and screens) to effectively play a racing game is getting a little bit daft, I guess that’s why the marketers are now calling it ‘sim racing’ not gaming.They are sending kit to influencers and spending loads getting their adverts into games. ‘Consumerism’... marketing to convince people to buy stuff that they really don’t need! HiFi was another one that did the same, they got people to part with thousands for a speaker cable, interconnect etc based on marketing bullshit and ‘some’ people fall for it every time.
@@paulkelleway8032 Horses for courses really. I started sim racing in 2017 with a G27 wheel and a Next Level Racing rig and recently upgraded the whole thing to an 8020 rig, Podium F1 DD1 wheel combination and Clubsport V3 pedals well as an SFX100 motion simulator and I'm very pleased with the result. I do not watch mainstream tv and always mute or switch off ads on Bootube so my decisions are based on what I want for myself. So I would urge others to think for themselves and take responsibility for your own actions and then you may possibly realise that you can free yourself from the "marketing bullshit" and all the other lies and deceit that we are all being subjected to. Learn to take back your own true self is my advice.
@@paulkelleway8032 you stick with your g25 then.
@@Jeckaa84 will do pal
I really like the button box you have mounted to the CSW, fits it well
not the ringing endorsement i was expecting. i was looking to move from the CSW 2.5 to the DD1 expecting to feel a lot more of the road. Doesnt seem to be much of an improvement considering $1200 + 400 for a wheel.
i realize I am kinda off topic but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released series online?
@Nova Jamie i watch on Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@Nova Jamie I use Flixzone. Just google for it :)
Clear and sincere. Good job mate
It would be dream to have your set up I can’t even afford a g29 😔
just ask mrbeast!
How much is a g29 where you live?
Thanks for the insights.
Honest review, thanks.
Great vid! I appreciate the insight. I'm curious, is that a tablet you have mounted under your CSW? Would you share some info on the mechanism there? TY
Sure these are old Fire Kids tablets that i had lying around after upgrading the kids to newer tablets. I run Sim dashboard on them
www.stryder-it.de/simdashboard/ it should work with most android devices but if you want to run it on fire tablets you first need to enable play store, here is the walkthrough to enable play store ua-cam.com/video/n58XopeWj5M/v-deo.html
@@SimsRUs Nice, ty. What mounting method did you use?
@@MaddogBC4 the CSW is attached to a plywood board so i just cut an angles wood piece that i added to the end then made two oversized under sink holes in it and mounted the cover with a couple of wood screws. the covers is rubber so its easy to makes holes in it and to insert the tablet into the mounted cover, It sounds more complicated than it really is :)
this is the cover btw: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L7RPSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the csw 2.5 forza bundle and love it but i am curious about the DD1.
That is an itch that can only be scratched by trying one. If you know someone that has one you should ask if you can try it and I don't think you will be amazed it is better than the 2.5 but not amazingly better. If you are like me and dont know anyone then the only way to scratch that itch is to buy one. I felt more of a difference when going back then when upgrading and I did miss the DD1 a bit for about a week or two.
Nice review and setup, looks to be a nice channel as well! :)
I thought the same about going from the CSW 2.5 to a DD1, the DD1 is better and stronger, but really not a huge deal that everyone with a DD wanted it to sound like..
Kept my DD1 though, but if you are on a budget it's not worth the upgrade imo.
You thought the DD1 and monitors makes the rig to heavy, have you ever looked into VR?
yeah I have vr also but dont use it much after getting the trips. VR is more immersive but it also causes me eye strain, sweaty face in long sessions and worst off all I cant pick my nose :D
@@SimsRUs Hahaha, ah okay, all good points!! ;D
Hopefully the CSL DD base will be lighter, would be perfect for you
Indeed, planning on getting one as soon as they are released.
very good review thx!
Thank you
You should feel it now that the latest drivers are out its insanely better then it was lol huge not small but huge difference lol insane levels of detail and responsiveness road detials are so improved now its just much better then it used to be at first alot fo us thought damn not much different then the cswv2.5 in feel of course it was stronger but that was about it with fine drtial improvements but now there is a clear defined difference lol
Thanks, I don't have it anymore but I have preordered a CSL dd so hoping it translates into that base as well.
So I went dd+ its way way better way way way way better. Had the dd pro the dd+ is 10x better. Go get it for sure. Even with the issues with customer service. In stock items ship fast right now with the new logistics.
is that the boiler suit from money heist?
No it’s my racing fire suit
Big boy toys... :) so say how seconds you are down from a laptime after change base???
haha, with the notable exception of the pedals I don't think any of the upgrades make me faster some like the motion might even make me slower, but they all add to the immersion and allow me to enjoy this hobby a little more.
immersion, emotion and enjoyment - human life headliner... "enjoy the silence"...(c) :)
Thanks. I am looking to upgrade to the clubsport. I could not follow what you were saying about the quick release mechanism. Does the clubsport have a true quick release? Ie without the need for screws? Or do you need to have DD or cal elite wheel for that?
Yes it does I change wheels a lot and newer put in the set screw, Im pretty sure Fanatec also said its un-necessary with the CS quick release. the clubsport and podium (dd) wheels are interchangeable and I believe they also fit the CSL base but the CSL wheels are not Quick release and some (most) will require a screw
what sort of motion solution are you using in your rig
Its a P3 from DOF Reality dofreality.com
Lmao I have a DD2 mounted to a playseat challenge. Its amazing. The ffb shakes the rig and adds to the immersion; especially if playing in VR.
xD same here 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now try VR and scrap the triples. :D
I have VR and its more immersive then trips but trips come very close with none of the downsides of VR
@@SimsRUs WHAT downsides of VR? To me it's no comparison, even with running a Rift CV1 I still prefer the immersion and the real 3D distance feeling over the wider FOV... The ONLY thing I miss with VR is not being able to see the button boxes and any other add-ons you have (which you seem to have a few).
@@mikekopack6441 not everyone has the same experience but for me the downsides are eye strain, sweaty face (CV1 gets hot), nausea, and you can actually enjoy a cup of coffee and pick your nose while playing, that last one is super important
Sims R Us the nausea usually goes away with more time using it. I cut down the sweat issue by having a small desk fan blowing on my face. And there are always straws ;)
FYI, the Rift CV1 is now over 4.5 years old. Depending how you're counting, that's probably at least two generations.
I bought a Vive on release and sold it 2 weeks later because the resolution just wasn't there and I wanted a training tool to use more reference points for motorbike racing but ended up driving more by the seat of my pants as a result.
That's not true anymore with things approaching the ppd of the Quest 2 or HP Reverb.
DD1 is great when it works but trust me for no reason it will stop working and FANATEC do not help you in anyway with their support I totally regret buying the DD1 months of shipping costs no racing and still a brand new DD1 not working.
Im sorry to hear that, for what it’s worth I recently switched to a Simagic alpha mini and am very happy with it so far
With the angles on your monitors you will never get a correct FOV. Thanks for sharing thoughts on the DD1
I was thinking the same thing, but I guess if playing Codemasters games without proper triple support it would look better flattening the angle. But the correct angle makes all screens the same distance from your eyes. For me at 57cms from eyes is 56 degrees.
Great news about the CSWv2.5 being good enough. I have a CSWv2 not 2.5 and live it but always feel I need the DD. I will put those thoughts on hold for a while now thanks.
Sorry are there any usefull Information???
What would you consider useful?
Those triples are set up so wrong
how so? these are R1200 curve monitors and they follow that curve to fully wrap around my field of view. camera angles can be misleading as they representing a 2d view of a 3d space. If you check out some of my other videos you can see how the monitors fully wrap around including one top down video.
@@SimsRUs following in the 1200 curve does not make it correct. If you sit in your car and look at the left side window at the b pillar it would be more or less to your immediate left not 4ft away and in front of you
@@NobbyScott Nothing is 4 foot away, screen area on all 3 monitors is within 75-85cm of the eyeball which is what achieving consistent distance from eye to screen and allows you to look around without requiring your eye to refocus. Ultimately this is personal preference though and if you like your left monitor as close as a car door that's your preference and the right choice for you.