I just realized why this never has bothered me. You are buying a ticket to see “X” person entertain you like you are going to a concert to see a specific artist. I buy a ticket just to chill at a live game, not to see specific ppl, as long as they dnt cancel the game i got what I wanted which is to just see a game with NBA players play
@aspealioshis and if you feel you got your money's worth good for you but kids wear jerseys of there favorite players and wan5 to see them its not like other sports only 10 guys on the court much more about individual players then say football
Exactly, I don't have any intention spending my more hard earned money on people being paid to do nothing but sit on a bench, imagine being a kawaii Leonard fan
Your lame take is, your concern more with players wearing tights and painted nails over these same individuals who are the most insecure, arrogant, egoistical, and ignorant 'men'
What's funny is that this era is making the previous era the 2010's look tough, when in fact even that was soft. At this rate these kids will be in ballerina skirts by the end of the 2030s.
They say that about the NFL as well. Yet the game is smarter, offenses and defenses more complicated to understand and run. Sometimes doing things smarter actually wins the game
"Like, not trying to be arrogant, there's a bunch of kids in there with my shoes and my jersey and just because we're playing Charlotte on NBA League Pass on a Monday that ain't nobody f--king watching, I'm like 'Oh, I'm chilling tonight.' That's not what the great players, the best players do. ... Big game or not big game, compete. Play basketball. Don't take that s--t for granted." - Jayson Tatum
We're not halfway through the 2020s yet, and the new generation of NBA stars is currently rising up. A lot of them don't have this problem. We're gonna be done with them before they can even really make an impact? You're saying that because of the likes of LeBron and Embiid, not them.
Y'all picking on the wrong era. This 2020s era is up there as the best with the 80s and 2000s. The worst is 2010s. Superteams, guys like rudy gobert and draymond green winning dpoys, no defense, foul baiting and flopping, the list goes on. Most superstars of the 2020s(Jokic, Giannis, Luka, SGA etc.)so far are actually pretty decent.
@@apex_bladeIf you didn’t like the 2010’s then you just don’t actually like basketball. You just like talking as if you do while repeating things you’ve heard on tv. 2010’s is easily the best decade of basketball in the last 30yrs.
Embiid is the WORST-Spoken player. No substance, horrible tone, lazy voice, bad tempo, and simply says the worst things. It's annoying AF and cringe just listening to him speak 🤦🏻♂️💀💀💀
Lmao you didn't tell one lie. He's always making excuses. Blaming his team not being good enough when he plays like ABSOLUTE trash in the postseason or hurt/unavailable due to poor conditioning & all that flopping.
I just watched vintage basketball on the free Roku NBA channel, 76ers vs. Knicks, Ewings FIRST game, and the guys worked their asses off. The Knicks pressed the entire game, guys just worked so hard.
Centers back in the day were incredibly athletic, because of their role they were always trying to be first in the paint offensively and defensively. I loved that hustle and Ewing was very good at doing that, some of his highlights include blocking a shot, and joining the transition into offense and dunking the ball.
Great video again @Uncut Hoops!! I absolutely agree with Wemby!! If you watch the games, you can pretty much fill in alot of the names he was talking about.
The solution is easy, make load management effect their averages. If you dont want to play despite being healthy, sure, but youre getting a tripple 0 this game and its going in your stat sheet.
the problem is - how do you divide between divas and people who actually hurt themselves or worse, when a player is a diva but has factually hurt his knee at some point as usual, laws were put in place for a society that consisted of law abiding players, and some spineless people have ruined the system over the last 20 years. abusing the charity that should be reserved for actually injured players.
@@leonhardablemake contracts non guaranteed and cut them if they can't play after healing, cut the pay in half if injured, and the problems will root themselves out.
@@leonhardable I find the problem specific to that lies on the Injury reserve program, they need to make that more concrete like the other Major League sports which have mandatory minimums of how long they are on that list for like MLB has a 10-day injury and I think NHL has a 7-day once you've been put on that list. For the NBA they just "file" a report of "injury" and then they can classify it as questionable, out indefinitely, probable etc and most likely is a fake report to then choose to play or not. Like for example and James was on the Injury report I would say about 60 games but played 71 games is just simply an exploitation of those rules that are indeed supposed to help truly injured players
Lebron started the snow flake era. Controls media. Moves.goal posts and trashes past eras. In media and from players they want credit without effort. They want status without putting iinthe work. They bash the old era.. Imagine if Clark did that? Embed had plenty of help. Charming soft era.
@@edwinbrown2148stacking your roster with all star (and even super star) line ups and still coming out with a negative finals record isn't as meritous as you think.
Imagine telling your boss that you are only going to work for 2 and a half hours a night. That you need 3 breaks and also want to sit out and rest for a few minutes on top of that. That you are only going to work 3 to 4 nights a week, and on top of all of that, on nights that you just don't feel like working, you're going to sit out for "load management",
Don’t compare a 9-5 to athletes making millions because they are the attraction. It’s okay to dislike their approach to the game, but don’t ever compare yourself to them.
@@369pendulumgood point. But you also kind of made a separate point without knowing it. There the “attraction” yes. But the numbers have dropped drastically over the last 20 years and continue to drop. So clearly they’re not “attracting” as well as they use to. And it’s because of the stuff we’re talking about.
@@tawithmmk4800 Idk if that’s the reason though. I think the NBA game itself isn’t as entertaining as it used to be with all this damn 3pt shooting. You watch the average NBA game and it’ll be 3mins straight of back n forth chucking 3’s, the stars are the ones making the games bearable. And even though viewership is going down that’s not stopping the NBA from signing these multi-billionaire dollar deals, so clearly these corporations know something that they’re not telling us.
@@369pendulum I blame the fans for that. Young fans don’t know any better I guess so they still buy these expensive tickets (well their parents do anyway ha) and so money still comes in. Not nearly what it could be if they put a better product out on the court…but enough to pay these entitled athletes anyway. Is what it is….unfortunately I don’t see it changing. Hopefully I’m wrong. I always kinda wondered if lebron retires id they’ll start allowing a little more defense to be played again. I’m sure never what it was in the 89s/90’s but I get that that was a little much. But they gotta allow the game to be a little more physical. If they’re gonna allow them to carry and travel to look more skilled the least they could do is force them to do it against some actual defense. I think that would bring a lot of fans back to the game. I’m not a WNBa fan personally but I’ve been watching a bit more this year..and have watched each of the first 4 finals games so far between the liberty and lynx. And man their defense is far more entertaining. They let them be physical and it’s so. Much better to watch. And they don’t just chuck up 3’s like you said. It’s refreshing. Anyway…if the nba decides to bring some physicality back What a better time to do it then after lebron retires? Fingers crossed
"I understand if you are working the coal mines and you need a rest day" The stronger, faster, better athletes of today would boycott the league if they have to travel commercial eating only hotdogs from stands or vending machine during back to back. That is why we value the old players so much, because they gave it their all. Oh your neck hurts? Put a cast on and play.
It isn't that Embiid is done with individual accolades and has realised the value of rings, he most likely sees an NBA championship as the most glamorous absence in his personal résumé.
On paper his team was every bit as good as that one if not better. The truth is, Embiid was too soft and lazy to get through the playoffs. Thats why he always plays so much worse. The year Ben Simmons refused to shoot, they still could have won easily but playing 4 quarters of basketbal is beyond his comprehension.
I think when they start they are likeable, like Zion, Ja, Simmons, Ant, it's when they're blinded by max contracts and getting paid off their "potential" that I find their character is revealed, all of the sudden Zion can't put down the fork, Ja can't put down his toy gun, Simmons has the yips and can't shoot anymore, Ant has recently I felt been more arrogant but he's still got a work ethic and passion to an extent but the disrespect to past generations is certainly unlikeable now. I still enjoy Jokic cause he's putting in the work 100%, my only downside to Jokic's work ethic is that it's literally work to him and he doesn't have a passion for the game like others which is a weird and I suppose refreshing take on playing in the NBA which has been really diving into Business and Entertainment and not professional sport.
@@duffman4655 true that. These players play for the money and not for the love of the game. I stopped watching the NBA after Kobe retired. Kobe was the last of the real breed of true sportsmen.
Yeah but a lot of these kids from this generation have been entitled since they were in diapers. It’s all they know. And most didn’t really work as hard as you probably think. A lot of what gets them to nba is genetics. Just being born athletic freaks. They don’t realize that is Something they should thank god for every day and not waste it…but yet so many do.
Winning is all that matters. Anything else is a failure. Individual success is important and winning is always the goal and if it isn'tyoure a loser. Even if you don't have a stacked team a winning mindset is essential
@@urbaindelva7869To whom? LeBron fans? The goal I thought was to win games and championships therefore creating a legacy? It's a team sport not an individual sport..
@@urbaindelva7869winning is a mentality. Here's an example, embid threw his teammates under the bus when he said harden and himself can't win without help. A true leader would've said I failed my team, I didn't step up and handle business, regardless at the end of the day embid, LeBron, Paul George players like that can't be goats because they defer to others in crunch time.
Yeah, it's better than Last Dance! Best documentary about best player (in space jam 2, that is...), no other documentaries will ever be made cause Lebron one is so good, people afraid to create new ones...
I had no clue it came out, and there are hardly any reviews. Not enough to even get a Metascore or Tomatometer, and the handful of critical reviews found it mediocre. When The Last Dance came out, it took the world by storm. That's a microcosm of LBJ: Chasing MJ, coming up short, and moving the goalposts.
The nba will never change unless the people stop supporting the product. After kd joined the warriors in 2017 I never watched a game again. I wish the other fans would follow suit to actually make the league change
It's harder to watch than miss. They make it easy bc they make basketball look hard. It's just basketball.. take care of your body, train & practice, learn the plays, have fun. There is a minimum of players doing that.
Listen, bro, this isn't 1986, and games played per week is tied to injury. If you have different math on this, bring it out, present it to these billion-dollar businesses and I'm sure they will pay you big bucks for your insights. Fans claim they want to see basketball but you can see that a fun losing team has no one in the seats. While boring winners play in front of sold out audiences. And selling merchandise is tied to deep playoff runs and championships. It's a business not a "game."
I think guaranteed contract are ruining NBA basketball. Kawhi, Embiid, PG, Harden, Kyrie, Ball Brothers, etc. If you can’t show up, you shouldn’t get paid at all.
MJ mentioned this in 2005 on the Oprah show, it was great insight to how kids now get paid on potential, they get paid millions of dollars on day 1, and according to him it sets a bad work ethic. I loved that interview cause it's been accurate regarding today's NBA
Good? You have a loose definition of good. But yes by his standards, which were dreadful, yes he did good. By any other nba player, rookie or not, he finally had an average game. Wohoo!
@@Nates-Opiniondon’t you realize these bron fan boys only look at the box score? And not even all of it ha. They see 17 points and automatically call that good..without noticing everything else….and especially the fact they were getting blown out and warriors probably were even guarding him half the time ha
He gets criticism from actual basketball fans but not much from the media. The media as a whole has really stopped criticizing all players in recent years. Now they want to be buddy buddy with the players.
Really? Name one time that Roy Hibbert displayed anything close to the ability that Embiid has displayed. If you wanna argue that Embiid wouldn't be a superstar, fine. But he would be Roy Hibbert in the 90s? Stop it. All of a sudden, he would just be big with no actual game just because he plays in the 90s? How does that work?
To be accurate, both Embiid and Wembanyama speaks french but the former played in ncaa before nba while the latter played in europe between 2019 and 2023. That means Embiid is closer to the american early 2010's mentality while Wembanyama is closer to the european mentality and share more things with players like Doncic, Jokic or Antetokounmpo.
The softest, weakest, pathetic, 🗑 era EVER! Let's not forget what the imitation 23 said "it's just basketball" 😂. Another reason why this era of so called professional basketball sucks.
From a person whose father is developing dementia and can barely walk from playing in the NFL and Arena Football for 13 years, I wish they had guardians caps in the old league. I wish he could’ve taken days off. I would give every penny back and more to have my dad be healthy and able. It’s so easy to call someone soft when you’ve never experienced it.
If I may…. What Joel is saying is *TRUE* - Nobody can win alone. MJ “GoAT” needed help. Let’s be truthful now. Basketball fundamentally is a Team sport. You need atleast competent teammates. - Now Joel absolute took a dump in his pants in critical games and he lost. I understand that. - Even so, the point still stands. Even the GOATSs need Help. -Bird needed- Maxwell, Robert, Ainge, Johnson and McKale. -Magic needed- Worthy, Kareem, Byron, Cooper, and McAdoo -Kobe needed Shaq, Horry, Fox, Fisher and Gasol. MJ needed- Grant, Pippen, Longley, Kucoc, Harper and Rodman - Let’s be honest about that atleast. GOATs with all their Prowess still need that help.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Thank you for this one Sir, I hate hearing Gilbert Arenas and these Young Kids disrespecting the game I grew up loving and it started in the late 80s-90s as a little kid for me, at least these Men played 82 games NO EXCUSES, they played through slight injuries and in bad shoes, this New Era is so soft they break a fingernail and they're out for a week lol 🤭🤣😭
And the defense of Andre Drummond he has a valid point. In passed eras when they valued defense and rebounding we will hold him to a higher standard but because the prototypical big man has been phased out the game he doesn't get the love he deserves
It really is a social media thing. Immediate praise has become a standard (for all ages unfortunately). Now, we are just seeing it manifesting in the pro leagues.
Back in the late 97's i was playing pick up ball in a Small division 3 school. I went there to run track so i should have not being play ball anyways lol. In a middle if a pick up game I almost dislocated my knee. I straight my knee out it slide back into place i got up and ran up court like nothing happen lol. What am i trying to say i was not going pro and grew up on the court you have to be tough. Mind you i am 5'7 weight 170 pounds so i use to take a beating on the court lol
They say the same about the NFL. But I would contend it is equally as difficult and with the spacing increasing to logo, this big tough NBAs would need to get in better shape overall. That is on them, they didn't care as much about cardio issues when playing 15-20 ft around the rim and making the game generally boring as all get out (e.g. mid-90s Knicks).
I really hope this next generation of stars will make it about competition and winning again, not building their brands and hawking their shitty podcasts.
We live in an era where players get paid $50 million a year, complain about having to take private plans to travel and mark days they want off when the season starts. You had guys like Bill Russell and his teammates traveling by bus all across the country in bad shoes for pennies in comparison trying to play every game. For heavens sake back then they probably had to worry about driving in states were bricks could be thrown at them by guys in white hoods. They might he hetter sthletes today but they have less nerve than any if the "plumbers" they look down on.
When you remove defense almost entirely from the league, this is the kind nba your gonna get. What makes it worse is the face of the nba who is afraid of contact acknowledges it, and self proclaimed (just like his GOAT status) is the best era of basketball.
I laugh hard when people talk about 76ers being a title contender this year. Embid and PG are overpaid and injury prone and are masters of excuses. Phili = East Clippers 😂
At the rate that this snowball of softness keeps accumulating, its a matter of time before the NBA unveils NBA Warmup Skirts that you can wear over your shorts and pants like schoolgirls.
A $100,000,000 bag is different from a $100,000 bag. When they weren't making generational wealth they felt like they had to play every game to keep the money they were making coming in.
I'm sure in his career of playing 98.5 percent of his possible games throughout his entire career, John Stockton was dealing with nagging injuries that he probably could have taken a game off but I bet you those 4 games he missed in 89 and 18 he missed in 97 killed him.
I was just thinking between Jordan Kobe & fauxBron there is 15 championships just between those 3 people. You could add Barkley and still between 4 players you have 15 freaking ships. Those numbers are pretty wild🤣🤣😁😁🤗🤗🤗🤭🤭 absolutely love chuck. I was CB34 & 4 growing up. My orange & purple airmax 95’s made me feel invincible walking into school that fall. CB always apart of my childhood
While Kobe was still playing his last two years the league was already Charmin soft. Now they wear mandatory goggles in the locker room while spraying champagne on each other
Can't win alone?! You have to be on the court to win, Joel! How can you say that you "need help to win" if YOU aren't not even showing up to play HALF THE GAMES?!
The NBA has a lot of problems…the players “being soft” is debatable to begin with; however, even if it were objectively true, it’s a small piece of a pie that is no longer appetizing to many fans
If he would take care of his body maybe that wouldnt happen. Part of their job is to take care of their body, its the most important part of their job.
Honestly I can see where Charles comes from. Just compare the money they made back in the day vs today. I’d be mad to if they was making 50-60 million just to sit in the bench injured about 60 percent of the season
Can’t wait until players from the past 20 years to retire soon. Especially superstars and all-stars. I give it 5-10 years. We all want dedicated players. Bye bye Embiid, Simmons, Kawhi, Harden, LeBron, etc.
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The first 49 seconds of this video is pure gold.
Victor wemby said it best “guys that I looked up too…. I noticed they don’t work as hard 🤦🏽♂️ “
Puts things into perspective.
It's so expensive to take a family to a nba game and when you get there the players you saved your money to watch are just sitting on the bench SMH
Pitiful indeed due to losing an eyebrow.
And they are not even wearing a suit. Tight pants and hoodies.
I just realized why this never has bothered me. You are buying a ticket to see “X” person entertain you like you are going to a concert to see a specific artist. I buy a ticket just to chill at a live game, not to see specific ppl, as long as they dnt cancel the game i got what I wanted which is to just see a game with NBA players play
@aspealioshis and if you feel you got your money's worth good for you but kids wear jerseys of there favorite players and wan5 to see them its not like other sports only 10 guys on the court much more about individual players then say football
Exactly, I don't have any intention spending my more hard earned money on people being paid to do nothing but sit on a bench, imagine being a kawaii Leonard fan
Professional sports has become entertainment, it's no longer competition.
Brought to you by DRAFT KINGS. lol.
here comes the clowns that will defend these fixed sports orgs as being "fair" and not entertainment lol
then why play if you're not having fun? just for the money? SMH
@@Golden_Ghoulif i have even the slightest skill in basketball and get paid millions who tf cares if im having fun or not, ill do it in a heartbeat.
American professional sports*
crazy that the plumbers and firefighters were playing every game 40+ mpg in chuck taylors with no rest and way less injuries...
A lot of the nba players are the p word
BY FAR the softest era in NBA history. These dudes wear tights n paint they nails
Hey!!! they are just being "themselves" umm kayyy /s
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Your lame take is, your concern more with players wearing tights and painted nails over these same individuals who are the most insecure, arrogant, egoistical, and ignorant 'men'
What's funny is that this era is making the previous era the 2010's look tough, when in fact even that was soft. At this rate these kids will be in ballerina skirts by the end of the 2030s.
@DefaultHeroEntertainment 90s must've been soft when Colleg Dudes Chris's Webber abd Grant Hill schooled Jordan and other 90s guys
They say that about the NFL as well. Yet the game is smarter, offenses and defenses more complicated to understand and run. Sometimes doing things smarter actually wins the game
I wonder why your boys didn't win the 90s they were part off the70 and 9 casualties 🤣🤣🤣@@malikwilson7387
@@malikwilson7387 LeBron been beaten by 90's plumbers in finals .....
Ballerina’s ain’t soft… that shit is brutal.
"Like, not trying to be arrogant, there's a bunch of kids in there with my shoes and my jersey and just because we're playing Charlotte on NBA League Pass on a Monday that ain't nobody f--king watching, I'm like 'Oh, I'm chilling tonight.' That's not what the great players, the best players do. ... Big game or not big game, compete. Play basketball. Don't take that s--t for granted." - Jayson Tatum
guess we done with the 2020's
Honestly, not just for basketball either 😂
We're not halfway through the 2020s yet, and the new generation of NBA stars is currently rising up. A lot of them don't have this problem. We're gonna be done with them before they can even really make an impact? You're saying that because of the likes of LeBron and Embiid, not them.
Y'all picking on the wrong era. This 2020s era is up there as the best with the 80s and 2000s. The worst is 2010s. Superteams, guys like rudy gobert and draymond green winning dpoys, no defense, foul baiting and flopping, the list goes on. Most superstars of the 2020s(Jokic, Giannis, Luka, SGA etc.)so far are actually pretty decent.
Bro I've been done with the 2020s 😂
@@apex_bladeIf you didn’t like the 2010’s then you just don’t actually like basketball. You just like talking as if you do while repeating things you’ve heard on tv. 2010’s is easily the best decade of basketball in the last 30yrs.
chuck has probably eaten churros tougher than most of these current "stars"...
Served to him by a big Ole woman from San Antonio😂😂😂
and them stale nachos in Phoenix 😂
@@amandswright2040 😂😂😂😂😂
Embiid is the WORST-Spoken player. No substance, horrible tone, lazy voice, bad tempo, and simply says the worst things. It's annoying AF and cringe just listening to him speak 🤦🏻♂️💀💀💀
I wholly agree with you which is why I can’t stand his approach to the game.
he wants people to like him, but he just makes it so hard.
Lmao you didn't tell one lie. He's always making excuses. Blaming his team not being good enough when he plays like ABSOLUTE trash in the postseason or hurt/unavailable due to poor conditioning & all that flopping.
That’s cuz of his accent
Old school mentality: leave it all on the court every game
New school mentality: only do the bare minimum to stretch your career and get more money
Kobe shaking his head and say “SOFT”!!
I just watched vintage basketball on the free Roku NBA channel, 76ers vs. Knicks, Ewings FIRST game, and the guys worked their asses off. The Knicks pressed the entire game, guys just worked so hard.
Centers back in the day were incredibly athletic, because of their role they were always trying to be first in the paint offensively and defensively. I loved that hustle and Ewing was very good at doing that, some of his highlights include blocking a shot, and joining the transition into offense and dunking the ball.
Great video again @Uncut Hoops!! I absolutely agree with Wemby!! If you watch the games, you can pretty much fill in alot of the names he was talking about.
The "Estrogen" in the NBA today is very reminiscent of "The Golden Girls" 80's sitcom. 🤣
They gave lefraud blames jr a participation trophy for losing by 60 😂😂
The Lakers starters didn't even play while the whole Warriors starting lineup played except curry🤷♂️
@@Arick_jr Warriors didn’t even play their best player and still won by 60 😂
@@AXEJAYB and Lakers didn't play their best 6🤷♂️😂
@@Arick_jr why didn’t Lebron play then? He doesn’t play back to backs anymore like Embiid? Wait he didn’t even play any of the two games.
Why does the 22 year veteran need to play every pre-season game. How do y’all dislike a player and then complain when they don’t play?
The solution is easy, make load management effect their averages. If you dont want to play despite being healthy, sure, but youre getting a tripple 0 this game and its going in your stat sheet.
It should effect their salaries too.
the problem is - how do you divide between divas and people who actually hurt themselves
or worse, when a player is a diva but has factually hurt his knee at some point
as usual, laws were put in place for a society that consisted of law abiding players, and some spineless people have ruined the system over the last 20 years.
abusing the charity that should be reserved for actually injured players.
@@leonhardablemake contracts non guaranteed and cut them if they can't play after healing, cut the pay in half if injured, and the problems will root themselves out.
@@leonhardable I find the problem specific to that lies on the Injury reserve program, they need to make that more concrete like the other Major League sports which have mandatory minimums of how long they are on that list for like MLB has a 10-day injury and I think NHL has a 7-day once you've been put on that list. For the NBA they just "file" a report of "injury" and then they can classify it as questionable, out indefinitely, probable etc and most likely is a fake report to then choose to play or not. Like for example and James was on the Injury report I would say about 60 games but played 71 games is just simply an exploitation of those rules that are indeed supposed to help truly injured players
@@leonhardable MRIs exist
Lebron started the snow flake era. Controls media. Moves.goal posts and trashes past eras. In media and from players they want credit without effort. They want status without putting iinthe work. They bash the old era.. Imagine if Clark did that? Embed had plenty of help. Charming soft era.
Lebron won championships with all 3 teams he played for🤦🏽♂️. He deserves praise from the media based on what he accomplished.
Lebron plays very physical but when someone starts playing physical on him he starts complaining to the refs and flopping.
@@edwinbrown2148he has the media bought off people have seen right threw that we're all tired of hearing the same narrative about him 24/7
I don't think it's Charming at all, personally.
@@edwinbrown2148stacking your roster with all star (and even super star) line ups and still coming out with a negative finals record isn't as meritous as you think.
Imagine telling your boss that you are only going to work for 2 and a half hours a night. That you need 3 breaks and also want to sit out and rest for a few minutes on top of that. That you are only going to work 3 to 4 nights a week, and on top of all of that, on nights that you just don't feel like working, you're going to sit out for "load management",
Don’t compare a 9-5 to athletes making millions because they are the attraction. It’s okay to dislike their approach to the game, but don’t ever compare yourself to them.
@@369pendulumgood point. But you also kind of made a separate point without knowing it. There the “attraction” yes. But the numbers have dropped drastically over the last 20 years and continue to drop. So clearly they’re not “attracting” as well as they use to. And it’s because of the stuff we’re talking about.
@@tawithmmk4800 Idk if that’s the reason though. I think the NBA game itself isn’t as entertaining as it used to be with all this damn 3pt shooting. You watch the average NBA game and it’ll be 3mins straight of back n forth chucking 3’s, the stars are the ones making the games bearable. And even though viewership is going down that’s not stopping the NBA from signing these multi-billionaire dollar deals, so clearly these corporations know something that they’re not telling us.
@@369pendulum I blame the fans for that. Young fans don’t know any better I guess so they still buy these expensive tickets (well their parents do anyway ha) and so money still comes in. Not nearly what it could be if they put a better product out on the court…but enough to pay these entitled athletes anyway. Is what it is….unfortunately I don’t see it changing. Hopefully I’m wrong. I always kinda wondered if lebron retires id they’ll start allowing a little more defense to be played again. I’m sure never what it was in the 89s/90’s but I get that that was a little much. But they gotta allow the game to be a little more physical. If they’re gonna allow them to carry and travel to look more skilled the least they could do is force them to do it against some actual defense. I think that would bring a lot of fans back to the game. I’m not a WNBa fan personally but I’ve been watching a bit more this year..and have watched each of the first 4 finals games so far between the liberty and lynx. And man their defense is far more entertaining. They let them be physical and it’s so. Much better to watch. And they don’t just chuck up 3’s like you said. It’s refreshing. Anyway…if the nba decides to bring some physicality back What a better time to do it then after lebron retires? Fingers crossed
@@369pendulumhe ain’t wrong
after you hear "When it comes to.." , expect pure fire and facts 🔥
Not only are they spoiled, lazy, and soft. They cheat by constantly travelling and double dribbling.
"I understand if you are working the coal mines and you need a rest day" The stronger, faster, better athletes of today would boycott the league if they have to travel commercial eating only hotdogs from stands or vending machine during back to back. That is why we value the old players so much, because they gave it their all. Oh your neck hurts? Put a cast on and play.
Gerald Henderson :D played 76 games in his rookie season followed by 3 straight 82 game seasons
It isn't that Embiid is done with individual accolades and has realised the value of rings, he most likely sees an NBA championship as the most glamorous absence in his personal résumé.
Yea he cried and bitched and moaned til he finally got his MVP now he aint worried bout it anymore lol
Embiid says he could be in the goat conversation but his team peaked just as high as the jrue holiday, Evan turner, igoudala sixers
Hahaha. He’s a big joke that’s for sure.
On paper his team was every bit as good as that one if not better. The truth is, Embiid was too soft and lazy to get through the playoffs. Thats why he always plays so much worse. The year Ben Simmons refused to shoot, they still could have won easily but playing 4 quarters of basketbal is beyond his comprehension.
LBJ-era "superstars" are unlikeable.
I think when they start they are likeable, like Zion, Ja, Simmons, Ant, it's when they're blinded by max contracts and getting paid off their "potential" that I find their character is revealed, all of the sudden Zion can't put down the fork, Ja can't put down his toy gun, Simmons has the yips and can't shoot anymore, Ant has recently I felt been more arrogant but he's still got a work ethic and passion to an extent but the disrespect to past generations is certainly unlikeable now. I still enjoy Jokic cause he's putting in the work 100%, my only downside to Jokic's work ethic is that it's literally work to him and he doesn't have a passion for the game like others which is a weird and I suppose refreshing take on playing in the NBA which has been really diving into Business and Entertainment and not professional sport.
@@duffman4655 true that. These players play for the money and not for the love of the game. I stopped watching the NBA after Kobe retired. Kobe was the last of the real breed of true sportsmen.
If I was an NBA player, I’d be playing every single game, even preseason. Wouldn’t take the spot for granted.
agreed, 450 roster spots NBA player is a profession that's approximately 1 in 18 million chance to even dream of.
Yeah but a lot of these kids from this generation have been entitled since they were in diapers. It’s all they know. And most didn’t really work as hard as you probably think. A lot of what gets them to nba is genetics. Just being born athletic freaks. They don’t realize that is Something they should thank god for every day and not waste it…but yet so many do.
I never liked Embiid. He’s a bum
One of the Dirtiest players AND softest
A bum that dropped 70 on Wemby and the Sperms
Winning is all that matters. Anything else is a failure. Individual success is important and winning is always the goal and if it isn'tyoure a loser. Even if you don't have a stacked team a winning mindset is essential
Wait. You just said that winning is all that matters, and anything else is a failure. If the latter is true, then why is individual success important?
@@urbaindelva7869To whom? LeBron fans? The goal I thought was to win games and championships therefore creating a legacy? It's a team sport not an individual sport..
@@titancheat good thing he has the most finals appearances and more wins than the whole timberwolves
@@TFFProdLeBron played with super teams everywhere he went, it's nothing really to brag about realistically.
@@urbaindelva7869winning is a mentality. Here's an example, embid threw his teammates under the bus when he said harden and himself can't win without help. A true leader would've said I failed my team, I didn't step up and handle business, regardless at the end of the day embid, LeBron, Paul George players like that can't be goats because they defer to others in crunch time.
It’s the fault of The NBA for giving them too much money!!! And the fans needs o stop valuing them!!!
Dude just wanna leave a comment to ask if you're planning to watch the new netflix doc with Lebron? There are so many LIES being told 🤣
Of course they will do that. It's just about the message they want to spread
Yeah, it's better than Last Dance! Best documentary about best player (in space jam 2, that is...), no other documentaries will ever be made cause Lebron one is so good, people afraid to create new ones...
@@bbakerr How dare you! I LOVE Space Jam 2... in the same way that I love The Room or Troll 2, that is.
I had no clue it came out, and there are hardly any reviews. Not enough to even get a Metascore or Tomatometer, and the handful of critical reviews found it mediocre. When The Last Dance came out, it took the world by storm. That's a microcosm of LBJ: Chasing MJ, coming up short, and moving the goalposts.
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I hate this era of basketball.
Same here. Bring me back to the 90s n 00s
Need that super ego. Superstar. To smarten up these player. Like a mj or Kobe. To get league back to it good old days.
I don't remember who said this but i completely agree with it
"The best ability, is availability"
Thats why this league is unwatchable. I rather watch these UA-cam videos for the NBA drama.
Lol
Thank goodness for the new wave of stars coming up. The 2010 stars were awful outside of the big 3.
The nba will never change unless the people stop supporting the product. After kd joined the warriors in 2017 I never watched a game again. I wish the other fans would follow suit to actually make the league change
insane pettiness
It's harder to watch than miss. They make it easy bc they make basketball look hard. It's just basketball.. take care of your body, train & practice, learn the plays, have fun. There is a minimum of players doing that.
Hell no bro. Shut up
@@nsant2321why is that petty?
@@nsant2321lol facts
Listen, bro, this isn't 1986, and games played per week is tied to injury. If you have different math on this, bring it out, present it to these billion-dollar businesses and I'm sure they will pay you big bucks for your insights. Fans claim they want to see basketball but you can see that a fun losing team has no one in the seats. While boring winners play in front of sold out audiences. And selling merchandise is tied to deep playoff runs and championships. It's a business not a "game."
I think guaranteed contract are ruining NBA basketball. Kawhi, Embiid, PG, Harden, Kyrie, Ball Brothers, etc. If you can’t show up, you shouldn’t get paid at all.
MJ mentioned this in 2005 on the Oprah show, it was great insight to how kids now get paid on potential, they get paid millions of dollars on day 1, and according to him it sets a bad work ethic. I loved that interview cause it's been accurate regarding today's NBA
This past 15 years(ish) has been the softest era for in NBA history.
you not gon talk about bronny today??
oh no he did well this time, so let's ignore that 😂
How is 17 pts off 17 shots good? And then losing by 58
Good? You have a loose definition of good. But yes by his standards, which were dreadful, yes he did good. By any other nba player, rookie or not, he finally had an average game. Wohoo!
@@Nates-Opinion the expectations of a 55th pick rookie is insane 🤣
@@Nates-Opiniondon’t you realize these bron fan boys only look at the box score? And not even all of it ha. They see 17 points and automatically call that good..without noticing everything else….and especially the fact they were getting blown out and warriors probably were even guarding him half the time ha
5:30 Joel embiid is arguably the most criticized player in the game rn, that statement is just inaccurate lol
He gets criticism from actual basketball fans but not much from the media. The media as a whole has really stopped criticizing all players in recent years. Now they want to be buddy buddy with the players.
The NBA is going to go out of business if these players keep taking games off
its nice and epic the transition from kobe to lequeen while the narrator says "and below that..." so funny and so real
UA-camr commisioner Dynamo has so many amazing hilarious rants on this topic
Joel Embiid is Roy Hibbert in the 90's.
Really? Name one time that Roy Hibbert displayed anything close to the ability that Embiid has displayed. If you wanna argue that Embiid wouldn't be a superstar, fine. But he would be Roy Hibbert in the 90s? Stop it. All of a sudden, he would just be big with no actual game just because he plays in the 90s? How does that work?
Dude Roy Hibbart was drafted in 2008
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Roy Hibbert wasn't that bad. He just had mental issues. Better defender than Embiid too
@@theinktician Joel Embiid has mental issues too.
Money has ruined professional sports
Joel has never recovered from kawhi's shot
To be accurate, both Embiid and Wembanyama speaks french but the former played in ncaa before nba while the latter played in europe between 2019 and 2023.
That means Embiid is closer to the american early 2010's mentality while Wembanyama is closer to the european mentality and share more things with players like Doncic, Jokic or Antetokounmpo.
Great commentary!
The softest, weakest, pathetic, 🗑 era EVER! Let's not forget what the imitation 23 said "it's just basketball" 😂. Another reason why this era of so called professional basketball sucks.
70s and 80s are stronger then 00s man....
After taking the extension players like Kawhi and Embiid are out from the start of the season and other don't like playing back to back.
No coincidence things started to get bad after adam silver (the worst commisioner in sports) took over
These guys are single handedly ruining the game and the brand
The 76ers and Clippers are the best organizations for load management players.
From a person whose father is developing dementia and can barely walk from playing in the NFL and Arena Football for 13 years, I wish they had guardians caps in the old league. I wish he could’ve taken days off. I would give every penny back and more to have my dad be healthy and able. It’s so easy to call someone soft when you’ve never experienced it.
uh oh, this might not get you as much views. Guess you’re gonna have to milk Bronny content more for that easy 100k+ views 😂
Maybe don't pay rookie players and players who consistently miss half the season $50 million.
Hockey players act like they're not hurt.
Basketball players act like they are hurt.
If I may….
What Joel is saying is *TRUE*
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Nobody can win alone.
MJ “GoAT” needed help. Let’s be truthful now.
Basketball fundamentally is a Team sport. You need atleast competent teammates.
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Now Joel absolute took a dump in his pants in critical games and he lost. I understand that.
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Even so, the point still stands. Even the GOATSs need Help.
-Bird needed- Maxwell, Robert, Ainge, Johnson and McKale.
-Magic needed- Worthy, Kareem, Byron, Cooper, and McAdoo
-Kobe needed Shaq, Horry, Fox, Fisher and Gasol.
MJ needed- Grant, Pippen, Longley, Kucoc, Harper and Rodman
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Let’s be honest about that atleast. GOATs with all their Prowess still need that help.
It's crazy asl to notice that these guys video game characters (NBA 2K) are more tougher than then in real life...
Not the softest era… everyone now has an opinion
I agree but add Tatum to that soft list. He’s no alpha
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Thank you for this one Sir, I hate hearing Gilbert Arenas and these Young Kids disrespecting the game I grew up loving and it started in the late 80s-90s as a little kid for me, at least these Men played 82 games NO EXCUSES, they played through slight injuries and in bad shoes, this New Era is so soft they break a fingernail and they're out for a week lol 🤭🤣😭
And the defense of Andre Drummond he has a valid point. In passed eras when they valued defense and rebounding we will hold him to a higher standard but because the prototypical big man has been phased out the game he doesn't get the love he deserves
It really is a social media thing. Immediate praise has become a standard (for all ages unfortunately). Now, we are just seeing it manifesting in the pro leagues.
Life long philly dude here. You are correct.
I do have faith the league will be better than it is at the moment. Give er 5 years .
Embid is pure tasteless
Back in the late 97's i was playing pick up ball in a Small division 3 school. I went there to run track so i should have not being play ball anyways lol. In a middle if a pick up game I almost dislocated my knee. I straight my knee out it slide back into place i got up and ran up court like nothing happen lol. What am i trying to say i was not going pro and grew up on the court you have to be tough. Mind you i am 5'7 weight 170 pounds so i use to take a beating on the court lol
That's why they stay in shape and train and practice with millions of dollars . Just to play basketball
Watching Embids highlights you can find soo mane travels.
I don't remember when but Andre Drummond was a VERY tuff rebounder.
They say the same about the NFL. But I would contend it is equally as difficult and with the spacing increasing to logo, this big tough NBAs would need to get in better shape overall. That is on them, they didn't care as much about cardio issues when playing 15-20 ft around the rim and making the game generally boring as all get out (e.g. mid-90s Knicks).
Bro you cooked tl with this video
I really hope this next generation of stars will make it about competition and winning again, not building their brands and hawking their shitty podcasts.
If Jokic had that Philly squad, he’d probably have multiple rings lol
Remember when Jordan took a day off bcuz he needed a rest day? Naa he tried playing with a hairline fracture foot
Great vid!
We live in an era where players get paid $50 million a year, complain about having to take private plans to travel and mark days they want off when the season starts. You had guys like Bill Russell and his teammates traveling by bus all across the country in bad shoes for pennies in comparison trying to play every game. For heavens sake back then they probably had to worry about driving in states were bricks could be thrown at them by guys in white hoods. They might he hetter sthletes today but they have less nerve than any if the "plumbers" they look down on.
So was this a Joel Embiid video then?
Micheal Jordan played over 70 games between the ages 38-40 just saying .
Basketball is boarder line unwatchable now. 👎🏾
NBA player got pay too much got spoiled
When you remove defense almost entirely from the league, this is the kind nba your gonna get. What makes it worse is the face of the nba who is afraid of contact acknowledges it, and self proclaimed (just like his GOAT status) is the best era of basketball.
I laugh hard when people talk about 76ers being a title contender this year. Embid and PG are overpaid and injury prone and are masters of excuses. Phili = East Clippers 😂
At the rate that this snowball of softness keeps accumulating, its a matter of time before the NBA unveils NBA Warmup Skirts that you can wear over your shorts and pants like schoolgirls.
A $100,000,000 bag is different from a $100,000 bag. When they weren't making generational wealth they felt like they had to play every game to keep the money they were making coming in.
Ben Simmons constant blank stare just pisses me off
NBA is all 3s anyway
I'm sure in his career of playing 98.5 percent of his possible games throughout his entire career, John Stockton was dealing with nagging injuries that he probably could have taken a game off but I bet you those 4 games he missed in 89 and 18 he missed in 97 killed him.
Since when do MVP candidates "duck certain players"? If I woke up from a 20-year coma and heard this I'd want to go back to sleep.
I was just thinking between Jordan Kobe & fauxBron there is 15 championships just between those 3 people. You could add Barkley and still between 4 players you have 15 freaking ships. Those numbers are pretty wild🤣🤣😁😁🤗🤗🤗🤭🤭 absolutely love chuck. I was CB34 & 4 growing up. My orange & purple airmax 95’s made me feel invincible walking into school that fall. CB always apart of my childhood
While Kobe was still playing his last two years the league was already Charmin soft. Now they wear mandatory goggles in the locker room while spraying champagne on each other
Can't win alone?! You have to be on the court to win, Joel! How can you say that you "need help to win" if YOU aren't not even showing up to play HALF THE GAMES?!
The NBA has a lot of problems…the players “being soft” is debatable to begin with; however, even if it were objectively true, it’s a small piece of a pie that is no longer appetizing to many fans
If he would take care of his body maybe that wouldnt happen. Part of their job is to take care of their body, its the most important part of their job.
Honestly I can see where Charles comes from. Just compare the money they made back in the day vs today. I’d be mad to if they was making 50-60 million just to sit in the bench injured about 60 percent of the season
Can’t wait until players from the past 20 years to retire soon. Especially superstars and all-stars. I give it 5-10 years. We all want dedicated players. Bye bye Embiid, Simmons, Kawhi, Harden, LeBron, etc.
I didn’t know Steve Erkel made a basketball channel