As a basketball fan, it sucks we never got to see the DeBallZach experiment in full force. Especially with Caruso, they had a lot of potential for at least a solid playoff run.
I remember last year when the season was starting my coworker was all like "MAN i was watching the preseason bulls game and they are all looking so good!! Derozan and Levine are so good!!! They might go far in the playoffs!!!" And I knew he was setting himself up for disappointment. By November he's all like "yeah man idk about the bulls anymore they just can't win" 😂😂😂 this franchise is THE NEW KNICKS
@@jxmmykriminallive I honestly don’t believe his landings was a big factor in causing his injuries. Rose was an iron man all through high school, college, and his first 3 nba seasons. I think his injuries had more to do with the lockout shortened season in 2012
Being a Bulls fan is depressing. At the same time I don’t think I could ever choose another franchise to root for. I have decades of history with this franchise.
Somewhere, there’s an alternate universe where a statue of Derrick Rose is built next to the statue of MJ due to D-Rose being the one who bough the Bulls back to being the legendary championship organization that they used to be in the 90s.
Before I watch Im gonna add my theory to this discussion. I grew up outside of Chicago and through my Uncle I started watching the NBA in the 84-85 season, the year before MJ showed up. My Uncle was stoked when the Bulls drafted MJ and couldnt stop telling me about it. I was going on 9 years old and had never seen him play but I took his word for it and to say he was right would be THE understatement. I followed the NBA like a fiend until the 1999 season for what should be obvious reasons. I say all of this to say the Bulls ever since then have been cursed. NEVER again shall they have sustained success. You run MJ, Scottie, Dennis, AND Phil out of Chicago for the sake of one individuals ego over the organization and you are forever cursed! I couldnt stand watching those Lakers teams that won 3 in a row because they just literally drank the Bulls formula with that same Bulls coaching staff and even a few of the same players. So in short Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf forever cursed this franchise. D-Rose paid the price too for this same curse. Thibs career too. Even now with Lonzo. It all goes back to Krause and Reinsdorf.
I 100% believe you brother. Sports curses are absolutely no joke… something has happened in Chicago. Something in the sports air there. Literally every team they have for the past decade have been completely and totally atrocious minus one fun Cubs season.
what ppl don't understand because of the jordan yrs chicago has ALWAYS been a VERY bad to at best mid team before he was drafted and once they blew up the team that's basically what they went back to minus the brief periods of good yrs between mediocrity
as a bulls fan, we had to trade jimmy. we were not winning with him and we did not have the pieces to win around him. he’s always been amazing but with how incompotent our franchise is we were making him worse.
And the Bulls could make the same error again that they did with Butler. If they trade Vooch, DeRozan and Lavine at the same time. Trade PWill instead of giving him a big contract, trade Coby for a more consistent player, either change the coach or the offense to take advantage of Vooch and Drummond or trade one of them for a starting point guard and any draft picks - then start drafting ready to produce players not potentials.
@@axucarosobutler was still youngish. Derozan and Vucevic are washed and Lavine’s not good enough to be the no. 1 guy on a contender. Also plays no defence
As both a Bulls and White Sox fan, it hurts to watch both of the teams owned by Reinsdorf suck year after year with a slight glimmer of playoff contention once in a while.
I had no idea he owned both franchises. I'm a huge baseball fan too so I thought it was really unfortunate the White Sox sucked when they looked really promising a couple years ago.
One of the saddest things about the Bulls in the 2000s is we've been consistently one of the best drafting teams. Look at our past picks and how many of them ended up being stars/good role players... just unfortunately not for the bulls usually. We just cant progress anyone
Problem is they can't develop players. Rose was a natural and Jimmy was beyond a hard-worker, unless you have either traits, Chicago won't do any good.
The Championship Bulls of the 1990s. The Baby Bulls of 2004, the (pre-ACL) Derrick Rose era (2009-2012) and the brief Nate Robinson era (2012 I think) were moments where I was at my most happiest. The Reinsdorfs need to sell the team.
Iowa State fan here, Fred Hoiberg fall off was insane. Man went from back to back Big 12 championships in a very promising career as a college basketball coach. To being a central character in one of of the biggest collapses in NBA history. Just like with Derrick Rose and his injuries, the what if of Fred Hoiberg staying at Iowa State instead of going to the Bulls will be one of the biggest what ifs of all of college basketball. He now manages a very bad Nebraska program which can’t even make it past 11th place.
If the bulls had better training staff that could have helped prevent some of these injuries through better recovery along with the coaches not overplaying players they would probably have a ring or two.
@@Kap_NYCthat’s why nba docs are starting to influence upper management with going to get those foreign African/ Eastern European guys because they know they haven’t been shredding their knees cartilage off the bone since they were 4 at their local park lmao
@@Lucky-sh1dmIn a way, those Europeans still are. Luka Doncic has been a professional playing with and against grown ass men since he was 15-16 years old, some with actual NBA experience. They aren't grinding in an AAU circuit but they're definitely playing a lot of hours over there, if not more so in some instances.
I’ll never forget telling my Celtics fan friend in 2017 that the sweep was coming when we were up 2-0. If Rondo never got injured i think we could’ve gotten that series
@@arizonaFIREentNo, just stop. Kobe's best year scoring wise was 35 5 and 5. I like Jimmy, but trying to say his numbers are better than his is hilarious 😂.
Not only them. I'm 100% sure that if had stayed in Philadelphia, making him the team's leader instead of Embiid and Simmons, Phily would now have a championship. Funny how Butler has made all his teams better (Chicago could have built around him; Minnesota only looked competitive with him; what I sadi about Phily).
being a chicago born and raised kid D rose was and will always be my favorite player i believe they have to be cursed in someway with the amount of unluck we have from being so great in the 90’s to the 2008 draft giving us hope the bulls always have been a team that could put teams together but the on and off management to injuries to teams just not reaching their potential it is depressing being a bulls fan but it’s always fun to watch we just need to make the right moves and have a little bit of luck and we can be right back on track
Great video! The Bulls as an organization have been clinging onto the Jordan era. Fans need to start speaking with their wallets. This franchise was ALL IN on coach Billy Donovan when clearly he hasn’t been as advertised. This team needs a new direction and a new roster set up. No shot blocking. Not enough bench scoring. Terrible coaching and substitution patterns and too many draft pick misses! Too many gambles in the draft.
As a bulls fan, this cuts deep. We’ve been riding the carousel of mediocrity for awhile. That’s what happens when you sign and overpay three all stars that can’t play d
Being a Bulls fan is truly pain. The incompetence of the front office you can give or take. But the absolute bad luck and injuries when things seem to be going well has truly been disheartening these passed 2 decades. One thing that still stands since 1998 is the owner Jerry. Bro is having the same issues in whole different sport with the White Sox. The Bulls can only climb back up when Jerry Riensdorf is no longer the owner.
@@nataliejarosz9360still a good portion of people know of and have seen the bulls dynasty. Maybe people growing up now don't know about it but its not like it was ancient times
My concern is that they'll be too bad for the playoffs but too good for a high draft pick 😭 I hope Bill actually gets his future picks or signings right, 'cause there's potential for the Pats. Dynasty renewed soon 🙏
The problem is we keep getting bad coaches like Hoiberg, Clown Dude, and Donovan. Our ownership sucks and they just want the Bulls to be winning enough so that they can sell tickets, but not really win a championship. And our players keep playing iso and three-point shooting offense that never gets anywhere. No team basketball whatsoever, and people wonder why we keep losing.......
It’s even more ridiculous to call Billy Donovan a bad coach, blaming him for another part of this downfall when he has zero control over the players health. He ain’t no physician
Y'all good now. Randle is the perfect tandem with Edwards. Ant man won't be gassed in the playoffs now with Randle driving the lane every couple plays.
As a Chicago sports fan this is par for the course, they provide hope for a bit just to rip that hope right out of your heart in the worst way possible.
The other day the Bulls were 15 points down with 5 minutes to go in the last quarter and they managed to make a comeback and win a free throw on a 93-92 with 0.7 seconds of the game left. Derozan lands the first free throw and ties the game up, but misses the second one and takes the game to overtime. Nothing sums up this generation of Bulls better than that whole situation.
Rondo going down with the hand injury was the end of that year. He was playing great. They had the celtics on the ropes and were ready for the ko punch.
As a bulls fan it hurts but i knew i had to watch this video😭😭 we just needa to blow it up and develop and build around our young guys ayo, pat and coby white or try nd get value out of the 3
Not even just that, we need to rebuild and just plain suck like the kings did for those 15 years. The day Jerry sells the team to someone who actually cares is the day the bulls start winning championships
Yea Gordon erupted in so many 4th quarters and he won them games because of this. I've been a lifelong Bulls fans as I grew up in Chicago. Since the Jordan era ended the Bulls have let so many good players go. All the ones named in the video but what wasn't shown is all the awful draft pics and the guys they passed on. The Rose ACL tear and trading Butler were the 2 killers of the team. If Rose doesn't get hurt I feel like the Bulls win a title between 2011-2015.
Great video dude. It’s about time someone spoke on the Bulls. As a supporter since the Rose glory days it’s just been disaster after disaster sometimes to an incredible degree that you think yeah we might’ve genuinely sold our souls for the Jordan era. Recently the tide has turned a bit on AK and ME too but the aggressiveness they showed in bringing Vooch as soon as they got hired showed they know what they’re doing. It’s depressing but imma continue supporting.
Derrick Rose was a favorite of mine to watch when I started to get into the NBA. My heart breaks every time I listen to his story again because he had so much potential. If he was in the modern NBA, there would be specialists to identify his landing patterns and help him correct it. Not sure if it was just neglect from the bulls staff or just a time before there were people watching and correcting debilitating habits. Either way, I can’t imagine suffering so many injuries and going through each recovery process. I can’t imagine what that did to his psyche but I love seeing him as a motivating veteran in the locker room. I hope he’s doing okay today, you have to have strong mental fortitude to come out on the other side like he has.
Management detonated that amazing team to prove their managerial prowess. What a spectacular dumpster fire. Only goes to show how good Phil and Jordan were.
It sucks to be a bulls fan😭 worst part of it is that the owner doesn’t care, we are still running it again with a core that is a play-in team at best, bad coaching and where the only guys that plays defense is Caruso. Hope they go in full rebuild mode so at least we can get a good pick, but knowing this franchise, they will screw everything again🤦🏽♂️
It was karma for treating a 3 peat champion team and coach like they did just for ego, now they can't make a competitive team anymore, D-Rose was the closest the Bulls were to the glorious days, but the injuries destroyed them.
You're not wrong but you could say that for every franchise. Warriors minus the Curry years and a couple Wilt years. Pistons minus the Bad Boy years and a couple early 2000s years. Cavs minus the LeBron years and a couple late 80s early 90s years. Only franchise you can't say that for are the Lakers and Celtics.
@@shannysalcedo3627 “Nuggets outside of Jokic prime and a few good years without Carmelo are mainly trash.” “Spurs outside of Tim Duncan and a few good years of David Robinson were mainly trash.” See how stupid that sounds?
To be fair, I think almost every NBA franchises would sell their soul for Michael Jordan and 6 Championships (all of them but the Lakers/Celtics/Warriors)...but yeah, it is still very painful watching this current team.
@@revan5293 haha our present team needs it but I’ve been to 6 parades I’m not stressing about it. You guys take out the Lakers and I’ll be rooting for you. Good luck!
I knew who Fred was because I watch Rondo but I never realized why the front office was so horrible when they were there and it seems like they were working against them. But in your video you were saying that they're looking for a reason to fire. Jimmy Butler which makes sense
D Rose and Lonzo Ball… possibly two of the worst cases if not the worst cases of “what if he didn’t get injured?” The Bulls Franchise after Jordan is just “We could’ve had some of the most amazing stars of the 21st century but look at us without them…”
You just glossed over how the Bulls organization decided they didn't want to win championships anymore. MJ retired because the front office made the decision that they weren't bringing back Pip or Phil Jackson. They wanted to prove that front offices, not players, win championships so they decided to not even try to defend their [6th] championship. One of the most dumb-founding decisions in sports history, just deciding that winning isn't enough, they had to win *their way*, with new personnel, a new coach... unbelievably egotistical.
With DeMar being our main scorer y’all have to realize that zo wasn’t the only reason why we went #1 We also had DeMar averaging 30 points a game which definitely helped we also had Alex Caruso who is a fuckin unit on defense those 3 were the biggest pieces and it really helped our franchise injuries just got too us and it’s sucks But I’m happy that lonzo can make a return soon at least that’s what he’s saying
Losing Ball really put a damper on this current Bulls. Before his injury they were balling and were #1 in the East. Similar to Rose and the early 2010s Bulls.
So much blame to go around. Jerry Reinsdorf is low key one of the worst owners in sports. Making Scottie Pippen play out that atrocious contract got the Bulls black listed by agents which haunts them to this day. For an atrocity of more recent vintage we need look no further than the Vucevic trade. I hated this move with a passion the second it happened. Adding Vuc hard capped their ceiling at 50 wins which they failed to even realize. This is the kind of move that plays in Sacramento where a cute, scrappy underdog story is among the better outcomes. This is Chicago however and a cute scrappy team is not an acceptable goal for a big market team with elite pedigree. Worse yet two young players they totally failed to develop, Markkanen and Wendell Carter have thrived with their new teams. Patrick Williams who is the epitome of mediocrity wants 200 million and Coby White can't guard his house with a shotgun. Finally screw Jimmy Butler! He's a big mouth phony who never delivered in the playoffs as a Bull. His whole "I'm the hardest worker who's too really real" schtick was incredibly annoying. The reality is they need to tear this roster down to the screws and start over. Obviously this guarantees nothing but the current 30 to 35 win trajectory guarantees misery in perpetuity. Did I mention screw Jimmy Butler?
18:15 I know ppl don’t want to admit it but the Jimmy Zach trade actually looks better and better. Since he left Chicago, Jimmy had only played in 60 games in a season and single time. And while he 100% has his playoff moments, he also swings wildly the other way. And in the regular season, Zach gets more buckets and is more consistent having only NOT played 60 games in a single season over the same time frame and it was 58 games where he averaged 27 points a game. He played 77 last year. Thats what Chicago needed. An absolute work horse night in , night out. That was the right trade. Jim really was the issue. I say that as a bulls fan which I’m sure, tragically, you’ll cover next.
So you'd rather have a regular season volume shooter who may or may not even get you to the first round, vs someone who plays a bit less but has been in two finals and an ECF in four years?
I'm a Chicago Bulls Fan Michael Jordan was Greatest Of All Time Helping the Bulls Win 6th NBA Championship Jordan was Special for the Bulls in the 1990s.
As a Bulls fan this hurts but it is the truth and I blame Jerry Reinsdorf that greedy owner for not making the Bulls championship contenders again. It's all his fault
the first go around it wasn't his making anyway he was lucky to land a seven up and orange juice kid by the name of Michael Jordan that guy made them contend after that his cheap ways got this franchise in lala land
The guy has too much ego. To say Phil could win 82 straight and a sixth championship but was still going to be let go after '98 was absolutely foolish.
He is the weakest link, and Bill Krause doesn't deserve quite as much shit as he gets for the destruction of the 90s dynasty. I guess all we can do is wait until there's a different owner.
Great video,perfect breakdown of recent bulls history, would of nice to include baby bull era since it was a short bright spot post jordan pre rose lol
They could've at least gave them one more chance to defend their crown in 1999 and if they eventually lose to San Antonio, then im okay with that since the core is getting older and then they can do their rebuilding phase afterwards.
I've been watching this channel since before 20k subs and can't wait to see this young man hit 200k what an under the radar channel if you don't fumble this bag you will 100 percent hit 1 million in the next year or 2
I would argue the Bulls never were the greatest NBA franchise. The fell into Michael Jordan and were never able to win without him. Furthermore, the Kobe trade fell through because the Lakers wanted Deng and Kobe wouldn't accept the trade if Deng was traded.
I agree with this. Prior to the arrival of Jordan and Pippen, the Bulls themselves were just an “Ok” franchise. They had some decent playoff runs, but they never were seen as a top-tier team. Getting Jordan and Pippen really benefited the franchise in their legacy. And we can really see that today.
im probably considered a fair weather fan though at this point im so detached from the nba out of basically pure spite from what garpax did to the team. i started watching the bulls the season before Rose was drafted as i figured i needed something to watch that wasn't just the dallas cowboys and stumbled into my studio apartment hung over when i was 18 saw the bucks and bulls playing and literally just flipped a mental coin on who i would obsessively follow like i did the cowboys. Rose was a phenom and it really helped that 3/4s of their games were national games since you could catch them WGN-TV. every game he had 2-3 plays that you could only really see what he did when they played it in slow motion. having a team that was known for defense had an ULTRA humble super star in rose (who never flopped.... ever) and overall just a super likeable cast of supporting players in deng/joakim/taj and the nose grinder thibs directing the show. what a great time to be a fan. also in that conference finals every game was decided by 1-2 points (except for the one the bulls one i think)... not to mention the amount of fouls that the heat got called in their favor compared to the bulls was and still is insane to me.. though that typified Rose's career. that is not getting fouls called for him cause he didn't sell and dramatize every contact (real or imagined) when he went into the paint compared to those prima donnas. if the bulls had a tenth of those calls go in their favor they win the conference. also a shout out to stacy king.. he is the most goated up announcer ever.
As a basketball fan, it sucks we never got to see the DeBallZach experiment in full force. Especially with Caruso, they had a lot of potential for at least a solid playoff run.
Lmao DeBallZach is crazy
Trash take, them dudes never was going anywhere near a ring. You muppets eat what they tell you to eat is all
@swerv4ever404y’all don’t know about the “you just lost to DeBallZach” memes that time was so much fun 😭😭
@@yungmu9271They were so damn hilarious at the time
@@Kap_NYC it was the best of times, it was the worst of times 🤣
As a bulls fan im going through the five stages of grief every game
I'm a bulls fan too but I don't go through that 5 stages
I just start the game and am at the acceptance stage
I remember last year when the season was starting my coworker was all like "MAN i was watching the preseason bulls game and they are all looking so good!! Derozan and Levine are so good!!! They might go far in the playoffs!!!" And I knew he was setting himself up for disappointment. By November he's all like "yeah man idk about the bulls anymore they just can't win" 😂😂😂 this franchise is THE NEW KNICKS
As a Toronto Maple Leafs fan I can relate to this. xD
Along with the Bulls, I'm a White Sox fan as well, so it's 365 days of pain and suffering every year.
Trading Jimmy is when they gave up
Jimmy would’ve done the same thing in Miami minus the finals
They gave up when rose got hurt
@@steelersnation9822They gave up when Tom left him in.
Imagine giving up Michael Jordan’s son as a Bulls GM
@@steelersnation9822they still had hope with butler when he left all hope was lost
D Rose abused his body, and the worst part is that nobody in the franchise cared enough to protect him.
someone shoulda taught him how to land from his jumps before he even got to college that’s not on the bulls
Sometimes injury is out of everyone’s control, it just happened.
@@jxmmykriminallive I honestly don’t believe his landings was a big factor in causing his injuries. Rose was an iron man all through high school, college, and his first 3 nba seasons. I think his injuries had more to do with the lockout shortened season in 2012
You folks just like your opinions are pathetic
@@Jman511x this is just not true idk if your going off memory or what, in highschool and college he had plenty of injuries
As long as the Reinsdorfs own the Bulls they are happy enough being a very profitable franchise and will not care about winning
yup pretty much.
We'd have kept Jordan, Pippen, and Phil Jackson if he'd have canned our GM. I quit watching basketball for years bc of Krause.
Secretly waiting for the day he dies so the Bulls and White Sox will be good again
The only thing Reinsdorf cares about is profit and will do whatever it takes to maximize it.
It all starts and the top, Reinsdorf needs to sell the team
Being a Bulls fan is depressing. At the same time I don’t think I could ever choose another franchise to root for. I have decades of history with this franchise.
Just pick one. It’s ok.
Schadenfruede 👍🏻
Things are looking up right now :)
You jumped on the bandwagon then, just do it again
@@SharronNeedlesayy a bit too late for the warriors, but maybe the Bucks are a good pick this year? OKC are the future, but don't tell anyone
Somewhere, there’s an alternate universe where a statue of Derrick Rose is built next to the statue of MJ due to D-Rose being the one who bough the Bulls back to being the legendary championship organization that they used to be in the 90s.
Too much fiction in your blood, God made man not no science. Ain't no alternate, just you being a muppet.
Shit Derrick could have won a single ring, just *ONE* and they'd have built him that statue THAT off-season
😢😢😢
Took the words RIGHT out my mouth. If D-Rose were never injured, I guarantee him, Bron and Curry would've been the 3-way rivalry of the decade.
@@eliamaral-seda1346i think, he would have had rivalry with kyrie too
Before I watch Im gonna add my theory to this discussion. I grew up outside of Chicago and through my Uncle I started watching the NBA in the 84-85 season, the year before MJ showed up. My Uncle was stoked when the Bulls drafted MJ and couldnt stop telling me about it. I was going on 9 years old and had never seen him play but I took his word for it and to say he was right would be THE understatement.
I followed the NBA like a fiend until the 1999 season for what should be obvious reasons.
I say all of this to say the Bulls ever since then have been cursed. NEVER again shall they have sustained success. You run MJ, Scottie, Dennis, AND Phil out of Chicago for the sake of one individuals ego over the organization and you are forever cursed! I couldnt stand watching those Lakers teams that won 3 in a row because they just literally drank the Bulls formula with that same Bulls coaching staff and even a few of the same players.
So in short Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf forever cursed this franchise. D-Rose paid the price too for this same curse. Thibs career too. Even now with Lonzo. It all goes back to Krause and Reinsdorf.
I 100% believe you brother. Sports curses are absolutely no joke… something has happened in Chicago. Something in the sports air there. Literally every team they have for the past decade have been completely and totally atrocious minus one fun Cubs season.
When you wrote down 84-85, it was Jordan's rookie season. So you couldn't wrote down 83-84, the season before MJ showed up.
@@jetfan925 good catch u right it has to have been 83-84.
@@Lucky-sh1dm same for atlanta. both the hawks and falcons always lose lmao
The Bulls running our best players and coaches out of Chicago because of egos has been our culture ever since
Nah posting this on the day of the first Bulls game of the season is out of pocket 🤣🤣
And they got blown out
rose was supposed to save Chicago its like the bulls made a deal with the devil for the jordan chips
😂😂 fr
Wouldn't be shocked if mj did it ngl
He said that in video
we did. His name is Jerry Reinsdorf
what ppl don't understand because of the jordan yrs chicago has ALWAYS been a VERY bad to at best mid team before he was drafted and once they blew up the team that's basically what they went back to minus the brief periods of good yrs between mediocrity
as a bulls fan, we had to trade jimmy. we were not winning with him and we did not have the pieces to win around him. he’s always been amazing but with how incompotent our franchise is we were making him worse.
And the Bulls could make the same error again that they did with Butler. If they trade Vooch, DeRozan and Lavine at the same time. Trade PWill instead of giving him a big contract, trade Coby for a more consistent player, either change the coach or the offense to take advantage of Vooch and Drummond or trade one of them for a starting point guard and any draft picks - then start drafting ready to produce players not potentials.
@@axucarosobutler was still youngish. Derozan and Vucevic are washed and Lavine’s not good enough to be the no. 1 guy on a contender. Also plays no defence
same thing w reaves on the lakers
@@yxngmargielaa46 GarPax traded him. I'm sure the current GM would've built around Jimmy
@@axucarosoyou missed in every take here lmao
The fall off was so hard, it’s insane
Proves it was all jordan
@@LilHondaCivic808lmao naw
Look at the Pistons, you could say they've done worse
As both a Bulls and White Sox fan, it hurts to watch both of the teams owned by Reinsdorf suck year after year with a slight glimmer of playoff contention once in a while.
Damn, they own BOTH!?! Fuck, that sucks.
I had no idea he owned both franchises. I'm a huge baseball fan too so I thought it was really unfortunate the White Sox sucked when they looked really promising a couple years ago.
Same here, when one team's season ends the other begins. A neverending cycle of suffering
@@aquila519Chicagos cursed ig
Boo-hoo! Trying being a Hawks and Falcons fan.
As someone who is living in Chicago and watches them from time to time WE SUCK
One of the saddest things about the Bulls in the 2000s is we've been consistently one of the best drafting teams. Look at our past picks and how many of them ended up being stars/good role players... just unfortunately not for the bulls usually. We just cant progress anyone
Problem is they can't develop players. Rose was a natural and Jimmy was beyond a hard-worker, unless you have either traits, Chicago won't do any good.
It's honestly sad watching John Paxson's fall from grace. I remember watching live when he hit the championship winning 3-point shot against Phoenix.
Unfortunately, loved former player does not equal great team exec :(
Man this video is so sad. You cant hate D Rose man, so sad never seeing him Ball out Long term😢
Yeah, how can you hate a man who literally drives to the basket with all his heart. ❤
Hes a risk taker and sometimes bad things just happen.
The Championship Bulls of the 1990s. The Baby Bulls of 2004, the (pre-ACL) Derrick Rose era (2009-2012) and the brief Nate Robinson era (2012 I think) were moments where I was at my most happiest.
The Reinsdorfs need to sell the team.
And Virginia needs to sell the Bears.
that rookie Drose rookie season was memorable
plus that series with the Celtics was legendary
As a Chicagoan and general sports fan: sports suck, man. We catch no breaks out here. Especially in basketball.
Chicago sports is terrible. It’s a never ending shit circus
Bears is worse lol
Blcakhawks got the 1st pick at least, Fire no one cares
Me in az. We only have the dbacks winning anything. The Phoenix Mercury have more chips then the Phoenix suns😭😭😭😭
@@revan5293don't do the round mound of rebound like that 😭😭
Well price must be paid when we caught the greatest break in sports ever... when Portland drafted Bowie.
A part of me died in 2012 with the Rose injury. Basketball has never been the same for me.
As a bulls fan I had nightmares of this day 😭
I'm not even bulls fan and this hurts 😭 (thanks Dylan great vid 😘)
Iowa State fan here, Fred Hoiberg fall off was insane. Man went from back to back Big 12 championships in a very promising career as a college basketball coach. To being a central character in one of of the biggest collapses in NBA history. Just like with Derrick Rose and his injuries, the what if of Fred Hoiberg staying at Iowa State instead of going to the Bulls will be one of the biggest what ifs of all of college basketball. He now manages a very bad Nebraska program which can’t even make it past 11th place.
Same thing with Tim Floyd
If the bulls had better training staff that could have helped prevent some of these injuries through better recovery along with the coaches not overplaying players they would probably have a ring or two.
Lonzo was the key piece to the current bulls roster, feels like he’s the new rose
he’s definitely having that rose path even if he is nowhere as good he is an extremely impactful player
Lonzo is the 2nd Rose. Both are always gone due injury
@@fszronWith Zo it’s the amount of usage his knees/legs has been used since he was a kid
@@Kap_NYCthat’s why nba docs are starting to influence upper management with going to get those foreign African/ Eastern European guys because they know they haven’t been shredding their knees cartilage off the bone since they were 4 at their local park lmao
@@Lucky-sh1dmIn a way, those Europeans still are. Luka Doncic has been a professional playing with and against grown ass men since he was 15-16 years old, some with actual NBA experience. They aren't grinding in an AAU circuit but they're definitely playing a lot of hours over there, if not more so in some instances.
I’ll never forget telling my Celtics fan friend in 2017 that the sweep was coming when we were up 2-0. If Rondo never got injured i think we could’ve gotten that series
The "get younger and athletic" quote after drafting a completely unathletic upperclassman wing Denzel Valentine really does sum up the GarPax era
CRazy how the Bulls had the second coming in Jordan in Butler and were too blind to see his work ethic and his winner's mentality
Ok I love Jimmy but let's not exagerate, the second coming of Jordan was Kobe, Butler averages around 25 6 6 which isn't exactly goat numbers
@@vascocarvalho2451those numbers are better than ballhog Kobe
@@arizonaFIREent🤡
@@arizonaFIREentNo, just stop. Kobe's best year scoring wise was 35 5 and 5. I like Jimmy, but trying to say his numbers are better than his is hilarious 😂.
Not only them. I'm 100% sure that if had stayed in Philadelphia, making him the team's leader instead of Embiid and Simmons, Phily would now have a championship. Funny how Butler has made all his teams better (Chicago could have built around him; Minnesota only looked competitive with him; what I sadi about Phily).
being a chicago born and raised kid D rose was and will always be my favorite player i believe they have to be cursed in someway with the amount of unluck we have from being so great in the 90’s to the 2008 draft giving us hope the bulls always have been a team that could put teams together but the on and off management to injuries to teams just not reaching their potential it is depressing being a bulls fan but it’s always fun to watch we just need to make the right moves and have a little bit of luck and we can be right back on track
Great video! The Bulls as an organization have been clinging onto the Jordan era. Fans need to start speaking with their wallets. This franchise was ALL IN on coach Billy Donovan when clearly he hasn’t been as advertised. This team needs a new direction and a new roster set up. No shot blocking. Not enough bench scoring. Terrible coaching and substitution patterns and too many draft pick misses! Too many gambles in the draft.
As a bulls fan, this cuts deep. We’ve been riding the carousel of mediocrity for awhile. That’s what happens when you sign and overpay three all stars that can’t play d
chicago's franchise since the 2000s has just been stars being injured
I felt Roses knee tear. That was the end. We hoped everything would go back to how it was pre injury Rose, but we all know what happened.
Being a Bulls fan is truly pain. The incompetence of the front office you can give or take. But the absolute bad luck and injuries when things seem to be going well has truly been disheartening these passed 2 decades. One thing that still stands since 1998 is the owner Jerry. Bro is having the same issues in whole different sport with the White Sox. The Bulls can only climb back up when Jerry Riensdorf is no longer the owner.
You have 6 rings, you dont know pain 😂
Pathetic
@@gdbssa They all predate Star Wars: The Phantom Menace.
@@nataliejarosz9360still a good portion of people know of and have seen the bulls dynasty. Maybe people growing up now don't know about it but its not like it was ancient times
Disappointing you never fully talked about Jerry reindorf
Welcome back man, glad you’re back with great vids 🙏
no lie this is how it feels like being a broncos fan. sold the entire future for that 2016 ring. now it just feels like purgatory
As a new England patriots fan i really hope we dont become like the bulls
My concern is that they'll be too bad for the playoffs but too good for a high draft pick 😭 I hope Bill actually gets his future picks or signings right, 'cause there's potential for the Pats. Dynasty renewed soon 🙏
Lesssgoooo Cowboys
We have already 😥
lol the patriots have already become a poverty franchise
@@lessssssgoooooCowboys are bums with Dak Fraudscott
The problem is we keep getting bad coaches like Hoiberg, Clown Dude, and Donovan. Our ownership sucks and they just want the Bulls to be winning enough so that they can sell tickets, but not really win a championship. And our players keep playing iso and three-point shooting offense that never gets anywhere. No team basketball whatsoever, and people wonder why we keep losing.......
Blaming Hoiberg and Billy Donovan is ridiculous
It’s even more ridiculous to call Billy Donovan a bad coach, blaming him for another part of this downfall when he has zero control over the players health. He ain’t no physician
Tibs destroying players' health through the years is not nearly talked about as it should
As a Timberwolves fan I can confidently say that the Bulls aren't the worst franchise. :')
Hey man we're still better than the Charlotte Hornets. Our present AND future look far brighter than Chicago
@@richborn6700 You're right, I'm just scarred from the Timberwolves and all of Minnesota's other sports teams.
Wolves are looking pretty good so far this season, though.
Poorland Tail gazers
Y'all good now. Randle is the perfect tandem with Edwards. Ant man won't be gassed in the playoffs now with Randle driving the lane every couple plays.
Your editing and storytelling is top tier
It pains us.....you'll always be our MVP D.Rose 🌹
U spelled Air Jordan wrong big dawg
Anyone else realize how the video quality went from 10/10 to 11/10
As a Chicago sports fan this is par for the course, they provide hope for a bit just to rip that hope right out of your heart in the worst way possible.
saying that Coby white was a bust right before the season started really aged badly
Im glad you talked about that Blatt timeout, no one ever talks about that. That drove me up the wall
Now 11 months later, Coby White has showed some promise now, and he’s still young he can still develop
A lot of promise improved player of the year last year
You should do one on how Seattle SuperSonics went from nba finals to relocated that would be something good to tackle
The other day the Bulls were 15 points down with 5 minutes to go in the last quarter and they managed to make a comeback and win a free throw on a 93-92 with 0.7 seconds of the game left. Derozan lands the first free throw and ties the game up, but misses the second one and takes the game to overtime. Nothing sums up this generation of Bulls better than that whole situation.
This is super unrelated to the actual video. But thankyou for linking the music you used, been looking for that outro song for a solid few years💚
Rondo going down with the hand injury was the end of that year. He was playing great. They had the celtics on the ropes and were ready for the ko punch.
Music choices are very interesting as always. I wasn’t expecting Malo Mart, the Valve intro or half this stuff lol
TEAM FORTRESS 2 BABYYYEEEEEE
As a bulls fan it hurts but i knew i had to watch this video😭😭 we just needa to blow it up and develop and build around our young guys ayo, pat and coby white or try nd get value out of the 3
Not even just that, we need to rebuild and just plain suck like the kings did for those 15 years. The day Jerry sells the team to someone who actually cares is the day the bulls start winning championships
Pat sucks lol
0:48 BRO I SWEAR I HAVE SEEN THAT ANT IN A Kids Story book. Please can anyone tell me the name.
Somebody tell them
The Bulls messed up when they allowed Ben Gordon walk. He would have helped against the Heat.Then trading Jimmy sealed their fate.
Yea Gordon erupted in so many 4th quarters and he won them games because of this. I've been a lifelong Bulls fans as I grew up in Chicago. Since the Jordan era ended the Bulls have let so many good players go. All the ones named in the video but what wasn't shown is all the awful draft pics and the guys they passed on. The Rose ACL tear and trading Butler were the 2 killers of the team. If Rose doesn't get hurt I feel like the Bulls win a title between 2011-2015.
and constantly mismanaging their players leading them to have season ending/career altering injuries
Great video dude. It’s about time someone spoke on the Bulls. As a supporter since the Rose glory days it’s just been disaster after disaster sometimes to an incredible degree that you think yeah we might’ve genuinely sold our souls for the Jordan era.
Recently the tide has turned a bit on AK and ME too but the aggressiveness they showed in bringing Vooch as soon as they got hired showed they know what they’re doing. It’s depressing but imma continue supporting.
Keep making great content Dylan!
Derrick Rose was a favorite of mine to watch when I started to get into the NBA. My heart breaks every time I listen to his story again because he had so much potential. If he was in the modern NBA, there would be specialists to identify his landing patterns and help him correct it. Not sure if it was just neglect from the bulls staff or just a time before there were people watching and correcting debilitating habits. Either way, I can’t imagine suffering so many injuries and going through each recovery process. I can’t imagine what that did to his psyche but I love seeing him as a motivating veteran in the locker room. I hope he’s doing okay today, you have to have strong mental fortitude to come out on the other side like he has.
Management detonated that amazing team to prove their managerial prowess. What a spectacular dumpster fire. Only goes to show how good Phil and Jordan were.
It sucks to be a bulls fan😭 worst part of it is that the owner doesn’t care, we are still running it again with a core that is a play-in team at best, bad coaching and where the only guys that plays defense is Caruso. Hope they go in full rebuild mode so at least we can get a good pick, but knowing this franchise, they will screw everything again🤦🏽♂️
The bulls medical staff needs to be investigated for how many players careers suffer from injuries, it’s too many for a coincidence
This is the longest bathroom break I've ever taken at work
It was karma for treating a 3 peat champion team and coach like they did just for ego, now they can't make a competitive team anymore, D-Rose was the closest the Bulls were to the glorious days, but the injuries destroyed them.
Bulls outside of Jordan's prime and a couple years of Rose's have been historically weak.
You're not wrong but you could say that for every franchise. Warriors minus the Curry years and a couple Wilt years. Pistons minus the Bad Boy years and a couple early 2000s years. Cavs minus the LeBron years and a couple late 80s early 90s years. Only franchise you can't say that for are the Lakers and Celtics.
Rare air
@@CHI-JORDAN-CHIyou’re right
@@CHI-JORDAN-CHI I'd say the denver nuggets have been a consistently good team without a championship. the spurs also
@@shannysalcedo3627 “Nuggets outside of Jokic prime and a few good years without Carmelo are mainly trash.”
“Spurs outside of Tim Duncan and a few good years of David Robinson were mainly trash.”
See how stupid that sounds?
litterly just finished his raptors video then i see this, so hype!
To be fair, I think almost every NBA franchises would sell their soul for Michael Jordan and 6 Championships (all of them but the Lakers/Celtics/Warriors)...but yeah, it is still very painful watching this current team.
As a suns fan I would give anything to have at least 1 ring.
@@revan5293 I hear you bro. Maybe this is finally your year.
@@CHI-JORDAN-CHI dude I am praying 🙏. Honestly tho I wish you guys the best of luck.
@@revan5293 haha our present team needs it but I’ve been to 6 parades I’m not stressing about it. You guys take out the Lakers and I’ll be rooting for you. Good luck!
As much as Bulls sucked, they for sure arent more depressing than the Hornets or Pistons
Facts 😂
I knew who Fred was because I watch Rondo but I never realized why the front office was so horrible when they were there and it seems like they were working against them. But in your video you were saying that they're looking for a reason to fire. Jimmy Butler which makes sense
I LIVED THROUGH THE FRED HOIBERG-JIM BOYLEN ERA AND LET ME TELL YOU IT WAS A DARK TIME
D Rose and Lonzo Ball… possibly two of the worst cases if not the worst cases of “what if he didn’t get injured?” The Bulls Franchise after Jordan is just “We could’ve had some of the most amazing stars of the 21st century but look at us without them…”
You just glossed over how the Bulls organization decided they didn't want to win championships anymore. MJ retired because the front office made the decision that they weren't bringing back Pip or Phil Jackson. They wanted to prove that front offices, not players, win championships so they decided to not even try to defend their [6th] championship.
One of the most dumb-founding decisions in sports history, just deciding that winning isn't enough, they had to win *their way*, with new personnel, a new coach... unbelievably egotistical.
16:01 That "what's is his plan ?" Graphic was taken from a New Rockstars thumbnail lol
With DeMar being our main scorer y’all have to realize that zo wasn’t the only reason why we went #1 We also had DeMar averaging 30 points a game which definitely helped we also had Alex Caruso who is a fuckin unit on defense those 3 were the biggest pieces and it really helped our franchise injuries just got too us and it’s sucks But I’m happy that lonzo can make a return soon at least that’s what he’s saying
i really wish you would post more i love these
Can you do Rockets downfall from their 95 championship to present day?
Losing Ball really put a damper on this current Bulls. Before his injury they were balling and were #1 in the East. Similar to Rose and the early 2010s Bulls.
What is the song starting at 8:14 ?
So much blame to go around. Jerry Reinsdorf is low key one of the worst owners in sports. Making Scottie Pippen play out that atrocious contract got the Bulls black listed by agents which haunts them to this day.
For an atrocity of more recent vintage we need look no further than the Vucevic trade. I hated this move with a passion the second it happened. Adding Vuc hard capped their ceiling at 50 wins which they failed to even realize. This is the kind of move that plays in Sacramento where a cute, scrappy underdog story is among the better outcomes. This is Chicago however and a cute scrappy team is not an acceptable goal for a big market team with elite pedigree. Worse yet two young players they totally failed to develop, Markkanen and Wendell Carter have thrived with their new teams. Patrick Williams who is the epitome of mediocrity wants 200 million and Coby White can't guard his house with a shotgun. Finally screw Jimmy Butler! He's a big mouth phony who never delivered in the playoffs as a Bull. His whole "I'm the hardest worker who's too really real" schtick was incredibly annoying.
The reality is they need to tear this roster down to the screws and start over. Obviously this guarantees nothing but the current 30 to 35 win trajectory guarantees misery in perpetuity.
Did I mention screw Jimmy Butler?
He's even worse as owner of the White Sox.
18:15 I know ppl don’t want to admit it but the Jimmy Zach trade actually looks better and better. Since he left Chicago, Jimmy had only played in 60 games in a season and single time. And while he 100% has his playoff moments, he also swings wildly the other way. And in the regular season, Zach gets more buckets and is more consistent having only NOT played 60 games in a single season over the same time frame and it was 58 games where he averaged 27 points a game. He played 77 last year. Thats what Chicago needed. An absolute work horse night in , night out. That was the right trade. Jim really was the issue. I say that as a bulls fan which I’m sure, tragically, you’ll cover next.
So you'd rather have a regular season volume shooter who may or may not even get you to the first round, vs someone who plays a bit less but has been in two finals and an ECF in four years?
HAHAHAHAHA
please delete this comment.... Zach Lavine over me!!
Drafting Coby White “turned out to be a dud”??? Bro must be mental, Coby has been the only bright spot for the Bulls this whole year
Yea,everything in this vid was pretty spot on except for him calling Coby a dud 😂
Also didn’t mention how injuries ruined the current bulls roster. Lonzo, Caruso, and Lavine’s injuries hurt the team real bad
Great day when you upload!
I'm a Chicago Bulls Fan Michael Jordan was Greatest Of All Time Helping the Bulls Win 6th NBA Championship Jordan was Special for the Bulls in the 1990s.
22:55 I miss seeing De Ball Zach play :(
Dylan why i wasn't looking to cry today 😢😢😢 but i was hoping for a bulls video
7:20 this man really did use a Valve sound effect haha! nice video btw
As a Bulls fan this hurts but it is the truth and I blame Jerry Reinsdorf that greedy owner for not making the Bulls championship contenders again. It's all his fault
the first go around it wasn't his making anyway he was lucky to land a seven up and orange juice kid by the name of Michael Jordan that guy made them contend after that his cheap ways got this franchise in lala land
Yeah he’s a cheap bastard
The guy has too much ego. To say Phil could win 82 straight and a sixth championship but was still going to be let go after '98 was absolutely foolish.
@@richborn6700 that was Jerry Krause that said that. He was a fucking idiot too
He is the weakest link, and Bill Krause doesn't deserve quite as much shit as he gets for the destruction of the 90s dynasty. I guess all we can do is wait until there's a different owner.
Great video,perfect breakdown of recent bulls history, would of nice to include baby bull era since it was a short bright spot post jordan pre rose lol
Title comes from a world where Minnesota, New Orleans and Charlotte don’t have Teams
They could've at least gave them one more chance to defend their crown in 1999 and if they eventually lose to San Antonio, then im okay with that since the core is getting older and then they can do their rebuilding phase afterwards.
Great video, except the Coby take didn't age well after his breakout 2023-24 season
At 15:49 you made a slight error. You said that the person pictured is Rajon Rondo, but it's actually Chris Paul
That's not a slight error brugh... that is catastrophic. This channel needs to shut down now.
Guys Wake Up, DYLAN JUST UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO!!!
I've been watching this channel since before 20k subs and can't wait to see this young man hit 200k what an under the radar channel if you don't fumble this bag you will 100 percent hit 1 million in the next year or 2
I would argue the Bulls never were the greatest NBA franchise. The fell into Michael Jordan and were never able to win without him.
Furthermore, the Kobe trade fell through because the Lakers wanted Deng and Kobe wouldn't accept the trade if Deng was traded.
I agree with this. Prior to the arrival of Jordan and Pippen, the Bulls themselves were just an “Ok” franchise. They had some decent playoff runs, but they never were seen as a top-tier team. Getting Jordan and Pippen really benefited the franchise in their legacy. And we can really see that today.
im probably considered a fair weather fan though at this point im so detached from the nba out of basically pure spite from what garpax did to the team. i started watching the bulls the season before Rose was drafted as i figured i needed something to watch that wasn't just the dallas cowboys and stumbled into my studio apartment hung over when i was 18 saw the bucks and bulls playing and literally just flipped a mental coin on who i would obsessively follow like i did the cowboys. Rose was a phenom and it really helped that 3/4s of their games were national games since you could catch them WGN-TV. every game he had 2-3 plays that you could only really see what he did when they played it in slow motion. having a team that was known for defense had an ULTRA humble super star in rose (who never flopped.... ever) and overall just a super likeable cast of supporting players in deng/joakim/taj and the nose grinder thibs directing the show. what a great time to be a fan. also in that conference finals every game was decided by 1-2 points (except for the one the bulls one i think)... not to mention the amount of fouls that the heat got called in their favor compared to the bulls was and still is insane to me.. though that typified Rose's career. that is not getting fouls called for him cause he didn't sell and dramatize every contact (real or imagined) when he went into the paint compared to those prima donnas. if the bulls had a tenth of those calls go in their favor they win the conference.
also a shout out to stacy king.. he is the most goated up announcer ever.
21:15 was hilarious. Why did they think this was a good idea 😂😂😂
dylan’s editing gets better and better each video 🔥🔥
20:23 ain’t age well white playing good asf now