It’s been said to death but it’s so unfortunate they didn’t bother making a speed3 off this platform. We’ve lost pretty much all other hot hatches so having a new speed3 would be a good thing.
Most of the road noise I believe is coming from the tires. The stock Bridgestone are louder even when brand new. Had the toyos on a previous mazda3 and those were quieter.
I absolutely love the size and exterior/interior design of the Mazda 3 sedan. I am so glad you pointed out all the advantages of the infotainment system, when other's don't. The rear windows retracting all the way into the door frame always looks so much better imo also, and actually something I look at in a vehicle design. To me, when a rear window doesn't retract all the way, it's kind of lazy design engineering. Not a deal breaker mind you, just shows that Mazda sweats those little details. If I was going to go NA 2.5 Mazda 3, I would be looking at a 2022 non premium/non awd model. Probably a Carbon since it was equipped with the Bose audio in that year. The reason I would be looking for the 2022 is that year in non premium/non awd was the last year you could get the Mazda 3 without cylinder deactivation. If I have a 4 cylinder, I'm sorry, but I don't want it to be reduced to 2 cylinders at any point in my drive. Not to mention the potential longterm reliability issue of unequal wear of 2 of the 4 cylinders as a result. Fyi, none of the Turbo model years have the cylinder deactivation system. I'm not sure about the hatch, when it comes to CD. Which is the reason if I was buying a 23-24, the Turbo would be the only model I would be looking at. From what I hear, changing oem tires on a Mazda 3 truly transforms the handling for the better.
I agree on the awd thing. It really depends on where someone lives and I dont need it, so I dont want to be forced to pay more and get less fuel economy just to get the features I want. Also mazda really needs to give us a manual offering in the sedan, they already have all the parts. Also, Mazda, please at least put the bose audio in the 2025 carbon turbo. What was the point of creating a somewhat premium trim with unique styling just to not have premium audio?
I drove the Mazda 3 in both sedan and hatchback version when deciding what to buy last fall. Neither really felt “inspiring”, or all that well put together. Ultimately, I decided on a 2024 Jetta, which was less expensive, more comfortable for me, and more fun to drive. I will say that for sure your reviews helped me make that decision.
@@MrMentos876 they were both naturally aspirated 2.5 - not turbo. Probably one level above base. The sales person told me the sedan was built in Mexico and the hatchback was built in Japan, but I didn’t perceive any obvious quality differences. I was testing the automatics and both seemed to hunt and downshift quite a bit at highway speeds when going up the slightest hill. Very annoying to me. My Jetta is the Sport model.
He says " you are not going to get a honda civic si experience"..lol that mazda would eat that civic for breakfast...much faster... just more refine feeling
14:30 I think you were referring to the Preferred model. As far as NA models go the 2022 Preferred or Carbon would be my choice. The Carbon more, just because of the Bose, and I also like the red interior the Carbon offers. I wouldn't buy a NA 23/24 Mazda 3 because of cylinder deactivation. Just me though.
FYI there has been no widespread issue with the cylinder deactivation for the Mazda 3 or any other Mazda with CD, and it’s been in use since 2017 on the CX5. Their CD has been engineered for reliability unlike past CD used on other models like GM or Honda way back when.
@Gravitas37 Good to know, I would still stick with the 2022, just in case though. Hard to believe there wouldn't be any premature wear on 2 of the 4 cylinders over time. The cylinders don't alternate. The same 2 shut down every time the system engages. I tend to keep a car for at least 10 years though, so for the ones that don't or maybe lease their vehicles, it would probably never become a concern.
I had a 2020 Mazda 3 AWD Preferred Trim and it drove awesome until the steering gear broke... 3 times... Dealing with the service department with Mazda was so poor, words couldn't even describe it. It took 3 visits back and forth to the service department before they would repair the car each time it broke. After the 3rd time the steering gear broke, they flat out refused to repair it... I ended up trading it in for a totally different car. I will never buy a Mazda again until they can demonstrate a significantly better dealership service experience.
That is entirely the fault of your dealer. Don’t call a brand bad for a certain dealer causing you issues. I’ll explain to you how this works since I’m in the business. Mazda is the corporation, the dealer is an independent, all dealers are, as is the one I work for, but we pride ourselves on taking care of the customer.
@@SPLITTINIMAGE I know how dealers work... I call Mazda bad because when I called Mazda customer service, the help they provided was non-existent. They don't stand behind their products.
They need to make the turbo charged 2.5,S in a 6 speed manual. Put all of that in a sedan then they will have a true competitor even up there with Acura.
@@unclelive6918 That class is competitive. The Mazda is the classiest, but the Civic is more fun to drive, the Corolla will be the most reliable, and the Sentra might be the best value. But for the 3, I would take the sedan for the extra rear seat room. Although I'd actually probably get the hatch with the Bose and then kindly ask my passengers to remove their heads.
@@unclelive6918 Chassis is better than the Mazda regardless of trim. But for $30k you can get the hybrid that is allegedly quite good, although I haven't driven it myself.
See, heres the thing. Asking for this amount of money for this segment and not even be like a hybrid is a little bit weird. You can get a mid trim Hyundai sonata or even a Honda Accord which (depending on the trim) has the same or slightly less features. This lacks a few features which for the price is quite funny. If this was a few thousand dollars (maybe 35k) cheaper it would be THE option. Pushing 40k for this, mmmm, doesn't convince me.
Well... if people would know how to adjust the correct position for the front seat, you will have a lot of space on the back seat... but nooo, move the front seat all the way to the back and then complain about the rear space... just be real... American people really need to learn how to drive a manual transmission, driving a car is not only going from A to B.
My 2019 Mazda6 Signature is like a tomb inside at 75. It's the most refined vehicle I've ever owned.
It’s been said to death but it’s so unfortunate they didn’t bother making a speed3 off this platform. We’ve lost pretty much all other hot hatches so having a new speed3 would be a good thing.
What? There are more hot hatches now than ever. Type-R, GTI, Golf R, Corolla GR, Integra Type-S, Kona N, Audi RS6, etc etc.
@@anthonykiedis1765What he means is we lost quite a bit of hatches. Focus RS, Fiesta RS, Speed3, etc.
@@TheUnreadableUser I do agree with you, but that is not what he said. He said "we've lost pretty much all other hot hatches"
@@anthonykiedis1765 I guess you have a point
@@TheUnreadableUser don't get me wrong though, I would gladly welcome a new Mazdaspeed3. I'd trade in my Mazda3 hatch in a heartbeat.
That sucks that the Bose only comes on the top trim now. My 2023 Mazda Carbon comes with the Bose and was under 30k.
Most of the road noise I believe is coming from the tires. The stock Bridgestone are louder even when brand new. Had the toyos on a previous mazda3 and those were quieter.
yes,u are right. i have the same tires on 2022 model
I absolutely love the size and exterior/interior design of the Mazda 3 sedan. I am so glad you pointed out all the advantages of the infotainment system, when other's don't. The rear windows retracting all the way into the door frame always looks so much better imo also, and actually something I look at in a vehicle design. To me, when a rear window doesn't retract all the way, it's kind of lazy design engineering. Not a deal breaker mind you, just shows that Mazda sweats those little details. If I was going to go NA 2.5 Mazda 3, I would be looking at a 2022 non premium/non awd model. Probably a Carbon since it was equipped with the Bose audio in that year. The reason I would be looking for the 2022 is that year in non premium/non awd was the last year you could get the Mazda 3 without cylinder deactivation. If I have a 4 cylinder, I'm sorry, but I don't want it to be reduced to 2 cylinders at any point in my drive. Not to mention the potential longterm reliability issue of unequal wear of 2 of the 4 cylinders as a result. Fyi, none of the Turbo model years have the cylinder deactivation system. I'm not sure about the hatch, when it comes to CD. Which is the reason if I was buying a 23-24, the Turbo would be the only model I would be looking at. From what I hear, changing oem tires on a Mazda 3 truly transforms the handling for the better.
Charlie, "Truncate the hatch" earns you bonus points. 🥳🥳
I would take the sedan over the hatchback any day.
Nah. Pay the extra and get the hatch.
the hatch is assembled in Japan. i personally purchased the gen4 hatchback in the preferred trim.
@@corybureau4124 my 22’ turbo sedan is Japan built 🤷♂️
I agree. The hatchback looks a bit weird
@@anthonykiedis1765🤢🤮 Gross
It looks absolutely identical to my 2020 Mazda 3. Mazda should’ve given it a new front and rear fascia headlights.
I have a 2019 Premium Mazda 3, 91k miles, with the Bose. Hard to justify upgrading to 2024 preferred as you lose the sound system.
I agree on the awd thing. It really depends on where someone lives and I dont need it, so I dont want to be forced to pay more and get less fuel economy just to get the features I want. Also mazda really needs to give us a manual offering in the sedan, they already have all the parts. Also, Mazda, please at least put the bose audio in the 2025 carbon turbo. What was the point of creating a somewhat premium trim with unique styling just to not have premium audio?
I drove the Mazda 3 in both sedan and hatchback version when deciding what to buy last fall. Neither really felt “inspiring”, or all that well put together. Ultimately, I decided on a 2024 Jetta, which was less expensive, more comfortable for me, and more fun to drive. I will say that for sure your reviews helped me make that decision.
What trims were the mazdas and jetta?
@@MrMentos876 they were both naturally aspirated 2.5 - not turbo. Probably one level above base. The sales person told me the sedan was built in Mexico and the hatchback was built in Japan, but I didn’t perceive any obvious quality differences. I was testing the automatics and both seemed to hunt and downshift quite a bit at highway speeds when going up the slightest hill. Very annoying to me. My Jetta is the Sport model.
getting a VW today shall be the worst decision one can make
@@blackmambaaa41 yeah my last one only went 221K before I traded it.
He says " you are not going to get a honda civic si experience"..lol that mazda would eat that civic for breakfast...much faster... just more refine feeling
Is the 16 inch wheels have less road noise than the 18s
14:30 I think you were referring to the Preferred model. As far as NA models go the 2022 Preferred or Carbon would be my choice. The Carbon more, just because of the Bose, and I also like the red interior the Carbon offers. I wouldn't buy a NA 23/24 Mazda 3 because of cylinder deactivation. Just me though.
FYI there has been no widespread issue with the cylinder deactivation for the Mazda 3 or any other Mazda with CD, and it’s been in use since 2017 on the CX5.
Their CD has been engineered for reliability unlike past CD used on other models like GM or Honda way back when.
@Gravitas37
Good to know, I would still stick with the 2022, just in case though. Hard to believe there wouldn't be any premature wear on 2 of the 4 cylinders over time. The cylinders don't alternate. The same 2 shut down every time the system engages. I tend to keep a car for at least 10 years though, so for the ones that don't or maybe lease their vehicles, it would probably never become a concern.
I had a 2020 Mazda 3 AWD Preferred Trim and it drove awesome until the steering gear broke... 3 times... Dealing with the service department with Mazda was so poor, words couldn't even describe it. It took 3 visits back and forth to the service department before they would repair the car each time it broke. After the 3rd time the steering gear broke, they flat out refused to repair it... I ended up trading it in for a totally different car. I will never buy a Mazda again until they can demonstrate a significantly better dealership service experience.
That's sad to hear
@@DailyMotor Yeah it is, because Mazda's are so nice to drive!
That is entirely the fault of your dealer. Don’t call a brand bad for a certain dealer causing you issues. I’ll explain to you how this works since I’m in the business. Mazda is the corporation, the dealer is an independent, all dealers are, as is the one I work for, but we pride ourselves on taking care of the customer.
@@SPLITTINIMAGE I know how dealers work... I call Mazda bad because when I called Mazda customer service, the help they provided was non-existent. They don't stand behind their products.
They need to make the turbo charged 2.5,S in a 6 speed manual. Put all of that in a sedan then they will have a true competitor even up there with Acura.
Im so sick of hacth and suv. Nothing beats the look of a good ole sedan
By the way, I'd love to see the new Hyundai sonata. Huge improvements this year and the N Line is as great as ever.
Will do!
You rate the 27k. 2.5l engine front wheels better than this as you said ?
I personally would get that one as I feel it's a better value.
Good point, at that price point what beat it ? And for the Mazda 3 hatch or sedan you like and why ? Cheers thanks a lot buying one soon
@@unclelive6918 That class is competitive. The Mazda is the classiest, but the Civic is more fun to drive, the Corolla will be the most reliable, and the Sentra might be the best value. But for the 3, I would take the sedan for the extra rear seat room. Although I'd actually probably get the hatch with the Bose and then kindly ask my passengers to remove their heads.
Which model of the civic that is 27.5k that is more fun the Mazda 3 2.5?
@@unclelive6918 Chassis is better than the Mazda regardless of trim. But for $30k you can get the hybrid that is allegedly quite good, although I haven't driven it myself.
See, heres the thing. Asking for this amount of money for this segment and not even be like a hybrid is a little bit weird. You can get a mid trim Hyundai sonata or even a Honda Accord which (depending on the trim) has the same or slightly less features. This lacks a few features which for the price is quite funny. If this was a few thousand dollars (maybe 35k) cheaper it would be THE option. Pushing 40k for this, mmmm, doesn't convince me.
If it’s not AWD I don’t want it. Can’t stand fwd
Cons: the sidewalls are way too skinny which makes the ride quality unbearable. The prop rod is un-attractive and should be replaced with hood struts.
Previous gen was better
Well... if people would know how to adjust the correct position for the front seat, you will have a lot of space on the back seat... but nooo, move the front seat all the way to the back and then complain about the rear space... just be real...
American people really need to learn how to drive a manual transmission, driving a car is not only going from A to B.