Tywin is so great because he is actually cunning. His one character flaw of hating his only child who actually inherited his impressive intellect is what gets him killed. What poetry
Tywin wasn't a villain. He was a strong, intelligent, tactical leader whose highest priority was House Lannister, as it should have been. Only weak people would consider someone like Tywin a villain.
@@skan5728 Tywin WAS a main character, so I could just as easily say that other characters were an antagonist to HIM, and therefore THEY are the villains. See how that works? Not to mention that every Lannister in the show (even Tyrion) would be far better off with Tywin as King than a king from some other House, so how is he an antagonist to them? Yeah he was an ass to his kids sometimes, but they would've all been ruling Westeros in various castles if he was in charge. Were the citizens of King's Landing better off being ruled by the Mad King, Robert Baratheon, Joffrey, Tommen, Cersei, or Danerys? I could argue that they would have been better off under Tywin's rule than ANY of those people. That would make HIM the protagonist in the story. It's all about perspective, isn't it?
@@JakeKoenig He is absolutely an antagonist in the context of the story lmao. The best villains are those where you can sympathize with them to a degree. It's really not even a debate that Tywin is a villain.
@@JakeKoenig Nah he's a villain, and he's actually very weak himself too despite his veneer. All his talks about family, how marriages for love are unnecessary - but he loved his wife and when she died he refused to remarry, even though he could've made a strong political allegiance and produced more heirs. Tyrion is 32 at the start of the show and so Tywin has avoided doing something he's happy to order his children to do for the 'family' for 3 decades. The red wedding, besides it's obvious heinousness, also represents a failing of an understanding of how to work within the confines of a society governed by the rule of law - by creating a climate of fear and using betrayal, no one will ever trust you again. And against the world, the lannisters would lose. He took a foolish shortcut, and he's somewhat lucky he died before everything could come back and destroy his family, though being murdered by the son he hated and screwed over all the time because of his own petty anger is also pretty embarrassing
Book Euron: - Literally a Lovecraftian Warlock Pirate seeking godhood. - Has sailed to Asshai, Stygai, and beyond learning the deepest secrets of forbidden dark magic. - Captain of a ship full of men who’s tongue’s he’s cut out with corpses lashed to the bow. - A powerful warg who skin changes into/controls other people. - Murdered/sexually abused his brothers and pissed in the sea to defy the drowned god. - Has a sick eyepatch which conceals an otherworldly blood-red eye that symbolizes his power and all the terrible things he’s seen/done. - Habitually uses and abuses powerful hallucinogens because “there is more truth in them”. - Was looked over by the three-eyed raven because he was too sadistic and evil. - Determined to usher in a blood red ocean, kraken fuelled apocalypse. Overall, arguably the most terrifying character in a series absolutely full of evil, degenerate, psychopathic monsters. Show Euron: - Cartoon Pirate Fratboy
2:05 the sad thing is; the actor loved the character in the books and even showed up with blue lips and an eyepatch, per the book character, only to be told ‘’oh you wont have to do any of that stupid stuff” by D&D….😢
The High Sparrow starts strong as a villain but gets dumber as his story progresses. He manipulates Cersi into arming the Faith Militant as a weapon against the Tyrel’s then betrays her and imprisons. Pretty solid villain work there. But then he stupidly lets Cersi go back to her power base at the Red Keep, assuming the humiliation of the Walk of Shame would break her. And even more stupidly he assumes Cersi will show up for a trial where she’s guaranteed to be found guilty and either be executed or imprisoned for life. And he gathers all of Cersi’s enemies together in one place for her to target. He died a moron.
In his defence, I think people read him wrong when they lump him in with the 'schemer' type villains. Yes, he plots how to get ahead, but he's actually a true believer. This is what makes him stand out so much for me. I absolutely don't accept this interpretation some people have that he's 'using' the church to gain power. He really does believe in what he's spouting, really does think a life of poverty and simplicity brings him closer to the gods, really does despise the corrupt elite who live beyond the judgement of the law. The elites of King's Landing struggle to deal with him so much purely BECAUSE he isn't just scheming for personal power. If he was then they'd know how to handle him and he'd never have become a threat. In the end, yes, he stupidly underestimated Cersei, and he massively overestimated the influence of the gods. But he had essentially become blinded to the power of the masses to enact their will upon the elite, and genuinely believed it wasn't an issue if she didn't show up because she would be found guilty anyway and justice would find its way to her. He dies for this mistake, much like Cersei dies for underestimating the power of a dragon and Robb dies for trusting the honour of a Fray. As for bringing all of Cersei's enemies into one place, I'm pretty sure the stash of wildfire is still a secret to most at this point (and if they knew of it, they probably think it was all used up in the Battle of the Blackwater). So if there was going to be any attack by Cersei, it would be surrounding the Sept with soldiers. If that happened, it would actually be excellent to have Margaery there, because he believes she's an ally of the Lannisters and that Cersei wouldn't want to harm her. After all, she's engaged to Cersei's son and when the walk of attonement was scheduled, Cersei's brother came to defend Margaery's honour. She's a human shield. He just didn't realise that she was a human shield Cersei would be more than happy to fire through.
The High Sparrow wanted the people to see the elite brought down to their knees. That's why he has Cersei do the Walk of Shame. It sends such a strong messages to all. I would even say that had it been anyone but Cersei the High Sparrow might have succeeded and changed the fate of the Crown forever. No one could have predicted wild fire.
He's a true believer, that's why he slips up. He genuinely believes in his faith, so he can't fathom somebody doing something as abhorrent as blowing up the Sept. He's very well written in my opinion
@@TalosBjorn Tyrion warns us. He said something about not minding High Septons who are gluttonous or frequent brothels. The real dangerous ones are the ones who believe in gods.
In fairness letting cersei go back to the red keep is from GRRM, not D and D and at the trial he wanted tommen there, he didn't account for cersei preventing him from leaving.
There is also one funny/tragic thing about Alliser Thorne - he was sent to the Wall because he was a Targaryen supporter and there he became an antagonist for Jon(who was a Targaryen). Nice story Martin, twisted as always :)
I would rank vilians by how much damage they caused, how many characters hated them, and how long they lasted. And not how well the character is portrayed. Ceisie caused the most damage, overcame a lot of obstacles, rose to be queen, defeated, and killed a lot more strong characters and lasted to the end of the series. She should be 1st. Followed by Little Finger. Tywin only defeated Robb and lost to Tyrion.
@@spointz8936 Robb was changed a bit. They made his marriage that led to him crossing walder frey (and thus... dying) a choice based on love rather than what it was in the books, which was that overly strict sense of duty and honor instilled in all of the Stark kids by Ned. In the books, he slept with a random woman in camp and got her pregnant, and then married her out of a sense of duty & thinking back to how tough Jon's life was as a bastard. He is someone who is still trying to emulate his father, and breaking a vow just because it feels good is definitely not in character. His death due to this also helps the living Stark kids to get past this fatal flaw that killed both Ned & their brother and mother. All of that is undercut by turning Robb into a fool in love. That being said, it doesn't make the character significantly worse. Definitely not ruined. But... not quite the same.
Tywin was a coward anyway he would've surrendered easily to Danerys and would've tried to beg for mercy and stay on the council.Of course she knew he betrayed her father so she would've banished him at the least in punishment
@@ricardofonseca8530the book Tywin is just like the version on the show. Only different is some facial hair but Charles dance nails this character in every way
Agreed that Ser Alliser is one of the most complex villains on the show. He gets a great arc with a lot of nuance to his character. You actually understand why he takes the decisions he does.
One character that you missed, who i really enjoy is Rickard Karstark. He greatly pushes the King in the North plotline. he is quite understandable in his actions, but they are also appalling. His constant questioning of Robb creates great tension in the warcamp, and his eventual betrayal and execution really progress Robb as a character and as a leader. Not to mention the fact he progresses both the Catlyn Stark AND Jaime Lannister plots extensively.
I supported House Baelish. His understanding of capital investment and debt financing are centuries ahead of his time. As king (probably Sansa’s consort) he’d be a competent administrator and a gift to the smallfolk
Ironically I absolutely despised him right up until he died, where I was forced to think about how s1-s4 LF would NEVER either make the decisions the later one made, or get caught in the way he does, not even arguing his case and just begging for forgiveness even though he's established as such a slimy manipulator, and showed exactly how rotten he is to the very person he's asking for forgiveness. You're telling me he doesn't even try to manipulate the Knights of the Vale, relatively non-political warriors he should be able to dance circles around intellectually, in order to save himself in that moment? Insane DnD butchered his character so bad his death, which should've been satisfying, turned me into a fan that wanted to see more of him
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Exactly. Even Tywin had good sides to him, there are many viewers who liked him. But literally everyone hates Joffrey. That makes him the best villian in the story. Same for the actor...he was literally threatened because peoplegot triggered by his face alone. No one else managed that.
The Tully family are the biggest villains of the show. Liza killed John Aaron, which started this whole mess. Cat kidnapped Tyrion which caused Jamie to delay Ned’s leaving of Kings Landing. Edmure went for that fort instead of doing what Rob told him which made Rob have to beg Frey for passage across the bridge.
Uhm. That was not Edmures Fault. His mistake was long After Robb had a deal Made with Frey in that he fought for some mills to save some common folk and ruined Robbs plan by that to trap and kill the Mountain. The Frey Deal was Cats fault
@@pascalheinrich3990 : Watch episode 3 of season 3. They had to go back to the Frey’s and beg for more men because of the “mill debacle” caused by Edmur. They made a deal in return for men that Edmur would marry the Frey girl. Thus the red wedding.
@@FMD70757that was not because of Edmure but Rob breaking his word to Frey after he married Talissa and cause of that Made Frey angry and his man leaving him. He offered a new deal and kinda made Edmure a sacrifice to fix this mistake of his.
17:19 in the books if I remember correctly it is not ambiguous at all. She specifically said that if Drogo tears off the bandage she used to treat him he will die. Which he of course does like 2 paragraphs later.
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removes the bandages cuz he thought they were uncomfortable, smears mud into his open wound, drinks like a fish during his treatment, he literally did everything thing you weren’t supposed to do lmao
It's a cool list but part of the point of GOT was that there are no villains and heroes. I'm surprised Mance is on the list, for example, when Stannis or Melisandre are not, while characters like Jaime, The Hound, and Daenerys "flipped" from hero to villain (or vice versa) throughout the story.
Yeah, in other videos as well, this guy doesn't seem to get that ASOIAF characters are supposed to be grey AND imperfect. They make mistakes, they can change their minds, they can do seemingly illogical things even, just like real life. And you can't really flesh out eeeevery single character, not even in a book.
I agree with you with respect to some of the people on the list, but there definitely are pure villains. Ramsay Bolton, Joffrey, The Night King and book Euron for example are definitely within the 'villain' category.
His death destroying the rest isn't the problem. Him not actually fighting someone or have some interaction with others or at least with Bran are the problem
I remember the "Lord of Bones" said to Ygritte something like "What would Mance want with a dead traitor's bastard?", and then I was thinking "ok, it's plausible that he's heard of Ned Stark, but how in the hell would he know that he was labeled a 'traitor' to the crown in a city over a thousand miles away and that they executed him?" when the only mode of communication are ravens.
If I remember right, in the books it's described in detail how important the Starks were to the wildlings since they controlled the North for centuries and were what stood in their way to move south. But I don't remember how exactly the wildlings learnt about the death of the Stark of Winterfell, and how quick
@@rosemaryjones5550 I was definitely let down. He just seemed like a perverted little demented hobbit in the show. Not a hulking, menacing, truly deranged sociopathic manipulator that also happened to enjoy torture as a part time hobby. His book version was much more terrifying. Iwan Rheon (and the actor that played Roose Bolton as well) was just not visually a good fit for Roose and Ramsay. Although Iwan did a good job with the content he was given. He seemed like a beefed up version of Karl Tanner more than Ramsay Snow.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI I know but considering everyone was considerably muted I wasn’t disappointed Ramsey could have ended up a torture version of the mountain based on what I worried would happen
Pycelle was played by Julian Glover who has the distinction of also playing villains in: Doctor Who ( Scaroth/Tancredi - City of Death) Star Wars (General Veers - Empire Strikes Back) James Bond (Kristatos - For Your Eyes Only) Indiana Jones (Walter Donovan - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade)
Lysa is an even worse villain considering she was the one who sent that letter to Catelyn in episode 1, warning her against the Lannisters, after poisoning Jon Arryn herself
@@adamsilverman2 Just because he fought against the Lannisters doesn’t make him a protagonist. Remember, he wanted to kill Robb. He also killed his own brother and let his daughter be burned alive at the stake. Pretty villainous if you ask me
@comeatmebro8120 I'd say he's a tragic protagonist rather than a villain. Tragic because he stood essentially no chance at victory and had to turn to the witch (melisandre) for her power and she then corrupted him. He's the protagonist because we follow him and he has plenty of scenes that make him sympathetic like his "you are my daughter" scene and saving the nights watch
No. 1 villain for me is Daenerys Targaryen. She's like Cersei is so many ways but instead of acknowledging her cruelty, she thinks she's innocent and doing the right thing.
I definitely don't think she thinks she's innocent. A huge part of her arc was devoted to her trying to be a liberator instead of a conqueror; trying not to be like her father. Of course that was all thrown out in the end.
I honestly think that dany changes so much throughout the show and - especially with her ridiculously rushed turn to the mad side of the Targaryen coin - it’s hard to classify her as a villain or hero. She earned names like great mother and breaker of chains for a reason but so did she deserve the name mad queen. She freed many in Essos and played a massive part in saving Westeros and defeating the night king, yet all she ever got in return was hatred and pain. If George R R Martin would finish the books, he prbly would even make her madness understandable I reckon
35: Smalljon Umber deserved the absolute bottom spot because in the novels, he died like a badass trying to save Robb during the Red Wedding 31: Olly is a cheap stand-in for Satin from the books, who was cut because an underage boy sex worker is too much even for HBO 22: In the novels it's pretty clear that Drogo ripping the bandage off is what led to his death 20: Locke is a cheap stand-in for Vargo Hoat from the novels. He's such a different character that GRRM made them change his name (back when he cared about such things) 12: I'm still partial to the theory that the High Sparrow is Howland Reed 11: If you know what to look for, Roose was hedging his bets against Robb from the very start 7: The biggest irony is that Alliser was sent to the Wall because he was a Targaryen loyalist on the losing end of Robert's Rebellion, and died not knowing Jon was Rhaegar's son
Seems to me like you're following the logic of "If it's different from the book, it's bad", which is a very disagreeable position to take. Vargo Hoat is such an exotic character that would hint at a much more interconnected and larger world than what we are getting in the show. The change to make him into a fellow northerner makes him feel more grounded in Westerosi civilisation.
Daenerys was really a hero until the end of the show. Everyone at the beginning was rooting for Daenerys to take the Iron Throne not only because she was the true heir but because we all felt she would’ve been the best choice then D & D totally turned Daenerys’s personality 180 degrees in the last couple episodes with her going from wanting to help the small folk and not wanting to be the Queen of ashes to literally turning the population of King’s Landing into ashes so it looked liked the North covered in snow
I remember reading how excited Pilou Asbæk was to play Book!Euron, only to end up with D&D's caricature version. Poor guy did the best he could with the material given to him.
Your suggestion about Qyburn making an undead army was something I thought of. Specially he was so curious with the zombies during that awkward meeting in the dragon pits.
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Your comment was more accurate before HOTD came out. Absolutely none one was talking about GOT anymore because of how bad the show ended. And thats what made HOTD so impressive because it brought back an apathetic fan base and was actually good
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Great video! I think you could have put in a few others that were villains for a time, because their screen time and impact as villains is more than some of the minor villains you included in the video: Melisandre - Her arc after season 5 was a little too quick imo, but I remember in seasons 2-5 she being the villain I hated the most. I mean, she did give birth to a literal murderous demon. Jamie - His first seasons he was the perfect evil Prince Charming. Theon - His villain arc was not as respectable but his impact was there and he had a good amount of screen time. I would put Styr (25) a bit higher (15-20). You gave him a lot of deserved praise. I’d switch him with Randyll Tarly (19). Also Meryn Trant (29) definitely deserves to be higher. He was a minor antagonist but was on Arya’s list for a reason. His scenes in the brothel were so gross and evil. I’d put him around 15. Loved all your explanations!
The worst goes to Bran the Broken. He wasn't even in season 5 LMAO. Even Ghost has a better story.. Now I go watch Game of thrones season 7 and 8. Wish me luck :) I can't wait to see who sits on the Throne. No way D and D can mess this up! Jon or Dany (fingers crossed) :D
I would argue that the audience was supposed to see quite a few of Dani's actions as wrong and villainous (like murdering all the Khals etc) just to foreshadow her Targaryen insanity and becoming a villain later.
Ramsay is my favorite. Unlike Joffrey he was willing to get his hands dirty, he wasn't a spoiled kid but a bastard who would do anything to earn his place. Also I think his death was perfect, died violently as he lived. I loved his relationship with Myranda for the same reasons you mentioned, and the fact that in the end he decides to feed her to his dogs seems insensitive but I think it was a significant act for him and they let us see a little bit of his "human" side. Every scene he was in was fun and entertaining, which I also thought with Viserys, except that Ramsey wasn't a ridiculous looking villain but more like charismatic and intriguing. Great video and I like that you included Tanner and Styr. Those actors nailed it too
The guy who plays Karl Tanner.. is quickly moving up my list of favorite actors! Before GoT, he was in Turn: Washington's Spies.. another great show that he absolutely killed it in!!!
Not only is Littlefingers chaos is a ladder monologue epic & brilliant- so is the outside scene that accompanies it. Panning from Joffrey to Ross tied & dead on the bed! Perfection 👌🏽
This might be controversial - but I think Ramsay is incredibly overrated. Personally I never found him very terryfying or intimidating, except for some of his earlier moments with Theon/Reek. Overall I think he's kind of annoying. He should not be higher than Cersei or Littlefinger. I also don't quite understand why he is described as "unpredictable". He's one of the most obvious batshit crazy characters in the show. When he's being nice you can see that it's fake.
I disagree wholeheartedly. What makes Ramsay great and what makes him different from the other insane villain (Joffrey) is that Ramsay is extremely intelligent and calculated. Joffrey acts on emotions almost exclusively, while Ramsay almost always have a grand and devious plan. Both are great in their own right but Ramsay comes out on top for me becuse of that element of calculation and thought disguised as unpredictability. And don’t get me started on Cersei. She was a great Villain in s1-4, she was alright in 5-6, but then she became so bland and one dimensional that I couldn’t for the life of me understand HOW she became the final boss of the show.
@@Jungbeck i feel like when speaking of the merits of the series and any of the characters in it, it should be customary to just ignore season 5-8 altogether, as they changed the tone and themes of the series so much as to be almost unrecognizable from how it started.
@@SupercutsDelight oh that’s good. Cuz I really like your opinion about the new series. And ranking every villain in got is actually a good idea for a video. I will see it and make sure to but my opinion about it❤️
that is actually a great video and i mostly agree. but I think that you should have ranked Jimmy. I know he turns into a protagonist later on, but I still think he was one if not the best villain in the first season. overall, good ranking.
I appreciate your vid, thanks for uploading! I'm only up to #31, but most of your arguments against characters so far are, no character development and/or lack of screen time. If these minor characters had more screen time, then other major plot points/important characters, would be rushed. There's only so much time in an episode. Looking forward to watching the rest of the vid!
I agree with most of this list EXCEPT The Waif. She is criminally high on this list IMO. She was not intriguing like the Night King, she was annoying. The actress is good and I love her in Andor but even the acting couldn’t save the character. She should be a spot or two above Euron IMO.
What ? Mance is considered a villain and Melisandre who literally burned a child isn't ?? Well... Okk... Other than that, good list. I feel like I'm probably the only one who prefers Roose Bolton as a villain to his bastard Ramsay. Roose has this very cold approach, whereas Ramsay was scary as hell in S3 but then I was just a bit tired with his character as seasons were going on... Spot on for Cersei, Baelish, Tywin and Joffrey ! Also, I'd put the Night King very lower, not a big fan of this entire arc and Pycelle higher, I honestly hated Pycelle
If I remembered well Mance on the book had a « magic horn » that he could use to destroy pretty everything. But he decides to not use it and play fair. So I think is not really a villain
you cant have the night king in the top 10 he was arguably a bigger disappointment then Euron and he had more hyped and scenes and all we got was a barely visible episode with Arya Ray Skywalking into killing him
Tywin is so great because he is actually cunning. His one character flaw of hating his only child who actually inherited his impressive intellect is what gets him killed. What poetry
Tywin wasn't a villain. He was a strong, intelligent, tactical leader whose highest priority was House Lannister, as it should have been. Only weak people would consider someone like Tywin a villain.
We call him a villain because he is an antagonist to the main characters@@JakeKoenig
@@skan5728 Tywin WAS a main character, so I could just as easily say that other characters were an antagonist to HIM, and therefore THEY are the villains. See how that works? Not to mention that every Lannister in the show (even Tyrion) would be far better off with Tywin as King than a king from some other House, so how is he an antagonist to them? Yeah he was an ass to his kids sometimes, but they would've all been ruling Westeros in various castles if he was in charge.
Were the citizens of King's Landing better off being ruled by the Mad King, Robert Baratheon, Joffrey, Tommen, Cersei, or Danerys? I could argue that they would have been better off under Tywin's rule than ANY of those people. That would make HIM the protagonist in the story. It's all about perspective, isn't it?
@@JakeKoenig He is absolutely an antagonist in the context of the story lmao. The best villains are those where you can sympathize with them to a degree. It's really not even a debate that Tywin is a villain.
@@JakeKoenig Nah he's a villain, and he's actually very weak himself too despite his veneer. All his talks about family, how marriages for love are unnecessary - but he loved his wife and when she died he refused to remarry, even though he could've made a strong political allegiance and produced more heirs. Tyrion is 32 at the start of the show and so Tywin has avoided doing something he's happy to order his children to do for the 'family' for 3 decades. The red wedding, besides it's obvious heinousness, also represents a failing of an understanding of how to work within the confines of a society governed by the rule of law - by creating a climate of fear and using betrayal, no one will ever trust you again. And against the world, the lannisters would lose. He took a foolish shortcut, and he's somewhat lucky he died before everything could come back and destroy his family, though being murdered by the son he hated and screwed over all the time because of his own petty anger is also pretty embarrassing
Book Euron:
- Literally a Lovecraftian Warlock Pirate seeking godhood.
- Has sailed to Asshai, Stygai, and beyond learning the deepest secrets of forbidden dark magic.
- Captain of a ship full of men who’s tongue’s he’s cut out with corpses lashed to the bow.
- A powerful warg who skin changes into/controls other people.
- Murdered/sexually abused his brothers and pissed in the sea to defy the drowned god.
- Has a sick eyepatch which conceals an otherworldly blood-red eye that symbolizes his power and all the terrible things he’s seen/done.
- Habitually uses and abuses powerful hallucinogens because “there is more truth in them”.
- Was looked over by the three-eyed raven because he was too sadistic and evil.
- Determined to usher in a blood red ocean, kraken fuelled apocalypse.
Overall, arguably the most terrifying character in a series absolutely full of evil, degenerate, psychopathic monsters.
Show Euron:
- Cartoon Pirate Fratboy
Didn't Book Euron go to Valyria and came back with actual loot? That alone would make him pretty much a one-of-a-kind.
Show Euron: A FiNgEr uP ThE bUm
@@TV-ge3ujAn entire suit of Valyrian Steel armor and a horn that can supposedly make dragons obey him. Final boss vibes.
We were expecting a force of nature, instead a buffoon answered the door.
Show Euron: A finger in the bum
The biggest villians are Dave and Dan. A truly legendary villian's arc taking 8 seasons to evolve😂
With the perfectly karmic comeuppance at the end of it all.
don't forget the hidden main villain, Geroge RR Martin who didn't finish the story on time and until this day
@@petterblack1351”hidden”
yep😆
i still haven't watched the last episode of S8. watched uncollected rubbish on the roadside for, how many episodes before it, already.
2:05 the sad thing is; the actor loved the character in the books and even showed up with blue lips and an eyepatch, per the book character, only to be told ‘’oh you wont have to do any of that stupid stuff” by D&D….😢
I feel so bad for Pilou Asbæk, could’ve probably done a brilliant performance as the real Euron
@@kingDowahs he gave it his all anyway too
He ate tho
@@dianawhoops huh?
@@conradaster3764the actor did a great job even if the character was terribly written.
You don't need to justify why Euron is in the bottom. We all agree with you
I blame D'n'D. Pilou is a great actor. And that's definitely not bias. Even though I'm Danish
I was fortunate enough to watch the show before reading the books. But everybody I knew was complaining about the way they ruined the character.
He’s OC in the books
Euron in the books is definitely top3
Unless it's book euron
You know Tywin is the BOSS when you see how he plays around with incredible characters like Cersei and Tyrion.
He plays because he is their father and they have to obey.
Tyrion outshines him in equal circumstances
That "cersei got mad at him hacking so he turned off his aimbot" line, was delivered perfectly.
The High Sparrow starts strong as a villain but gets dumber as his story progresses. He manipulates Cersi into arming the Faith Militant as a weapon against the Tyrel’s then betrays her and imprisons. Pretty solid villain work there. But then he stupidly lets Cersi go back to her power base at the Red Keep, assuming the humiliation of the Walk of Shame would break her. And even more stupidly he assumes Cersi will show up for a trial where she’s guaranteed to be found guilty and either be executed or imprisoned for life. And he gathers all of Cersi’s enemies together in one place for her to target. He died a moron.
In his defence, I think people read him wrong when they lump him in with the 'schemer' type villains. Yes, he plots how to get ahead, but he's actually a true believer. This is what makes him stand out so much for me. I absolutely don't accept this interpretation some people have that he's 'using' the church to gain power. He really does believe in what he's spouting, really does think a life of poverty and simplicity brings him closer to the gods, really does despise the corrupt elite who live beyond the judgement of the law. The elites of King's Landing struggle to deal with him so much purely BECAUSE he isn't just scheming for personal power. If he was then they'd know how to handle him and he'd never have become a threat.
In the end, yes, he stupidly underestimated Cersei, and he massively overestimated the influence of the gods. But he had essentially become blinded to the power of the masses to enact their will upon the elite, and genuinely believed it wasn't an issue if she didn't show up because she would be found guilty anyway and justice would find its way to her. He dies for this mistake, much like Cersei dies for underestimating the power of a dragon and Robb dies for trusting the honour of a Fray.
As for bringing all of Cersei's enemies into one place, I'm pretty sure the stash of wildfire is still a secret to most at this point (and if they knew of it, they probably think it was all used up in the Battle of the Blackwater). So if there was going to be any attack by Cersei, it would be surrounding the Sept with soldiers. If that happened, it would actually be excellent to have Margaery there, because he believes she's an ally of the Lannisters and that Cersei wouldn't want to harm her. After all, she's engaged to Cersei's son and when the walk of attonement was scheduled, Cersei's brother came to defend Margaery's honour. She's a human shield. He just didn't realise that she was a human shield Cersei would be more than happy to fire through.
The High Sparrow wanted the people to see the elite brought down to their knees. That's why he has Cersei do the Walk of Shame. It sends such a strong messages to all. I would even say that had it been anyone but Cersei the High Sparrow might have succeeded and changed the fate of the Crown forever. No one could have predicted wild fire.
He's a true believer, that's why he slips up. He genuinely believes in his faith, so he can't fathom somebody doing something as abhorrent as blowing up the Sept. He's very well written in my opinion
@@TalosBjorn Tyrion warns us. He said something about not minding High Septons who are gluttonous or frequent brothels. The real dangerous ones are the ones who believe in gods.
In fairness letting cersei go back to the red keep is from GRRM, not D and D and at the trial he wanted tommen there, he didn't account for cersei preventing him from leaving.
I was wondering why i havent watched this video only to realise it was uploaded 10min ago
Same! I didn’t realize it was posted only 30 minutes ago until I saw your comment
Same here
same for me but its been 2 hours lol
Lol I do this a lot too with his vids I’m like I know I would have seen that but wait it was just uploaded nvm 😂
Same 😂😂😂 i love supercuts got videos
There is also one funny/tragic thing about Alliser Thorne - he was sent to the Wall because he was a Targaryen supporter and there he became an antagonist for Jon(who was a Targaryen). Nice story Martin, twisted as always :)
Tywin hands down. A menace in every bit of screen time he had and the most important of all - died before D&D could butcher him
Yeah every character eventually got ruined lol thank god Tywin and Joffrey were spared and Ned
And Robb and Caitlyn
I would rank vilians by how much damage they caused, how many characters hated them, and how long they lasted. And not how well the character is portrayed. Ceisie caused the most damage, overcame a lot of obstacles, rose to be queen, defeated, and killed a lot more strong characters and lasted to the end of the series. She should be 1st. Followed by Little Finger. Tywin only defeated Robb and lost to Tyrion.
@@spointz8936 Robb was changed a bit. They made his marriage that led to him crossing walder frey (and thus... dying) a choice based on love rather than what it was in the books, which was that overly strict sense of duty and honor instilled in all of the Stark kids by Ned. In the books, he slept with a random woman in camp and got her pregnant, and then married her out of a sense of duty & thinking back to how tough Jon's life was as a bastard. He is someone who is still trying to emulate his father, and breaking a vow just because it feels good is definitely not in character. His death due to this also helps the living Stark kids to get past this fatal flaw that killed both Ned & their brother and mother. All of that is undercut by turning Robb into a fool in love.
That being said, it doesn't make the character significantly worse. Definitely not ruined. But... not quite the same.
Tywin was a coward anyway he would've surrendered easily to Danerys and would've tried to beg for mercy and stay on the council.Of course she knew he betrayed her father so she would've banished him at the least in punishment
Roose Bolton was one of my favorite villains, shame he was poisoned by his enemies 😔
If he's a villian it's good that he died he was a rapist
Was he poisoned in the books? Because in the show Ramsey stabbed him. He surprisingly looked shocked.
Ohh dear 🤦🏼
@@adbc1f72 That's a joke. It's what Ramsay says happened to him, to tell to the rest of the world......
Charles Dance is possibly the best casting of a character possible
He single-handedly made show Tywin better than book one.
@@ricardofonseca8530the book Tywin is just like the version on the show. Only different is some facial hair but Charles dance nails this character in every way
Yes, he was menace embodied
The fact that he wasn't even NOMINATED for an Emmy made me never trust an Emmy awarded anything ever again.
He was great in Space Truckers
Agreed that Ser Alliser is one of the most complex villains on the show. He gets a great arc with a lot of nuance to his character. You actually understand why he takes the decisions he does.
"Every nanosecond this character is on screen is a feast for the audience." couldn't express my feelings any better.
One character that you missed, who i really enjoy is Rickard Karstark. He greatly pushes the King in the North plotline. he is quite understandable in his actions, but they are also appalling. His constant questioning of Robb creates great tension in the warcamp, and his eventual betrayal and execution really progress Robb as a character and as a leader.
Not to mention the fact he progresses both the Catlyn Stark AND Jaime Lannister plots extensively.
David and Dan are the real villains
I'm ashamed of myself for not including them on this list
@@SupercutsDelightNah...we kinda take it for granted already that they are the the main villains of the show lol😉
@@SupercutsDelightyeah man i can't believeeeee you missed that opportunity lol
Can we please have one game of thrones video without the same ass comments. Yeah we get it the ending sucks but shut the fuck up about already
@@SupercutsDelight I guess you just...kind of, forgot about David And Dan.
I loved little finger. I still wish there would be an alternative „what if..?“ story line where he managed to achieve the iron throne
Good god no
I supported House Baelish. His understanding of capital investment and debt financing are centuries ahead of his time. As king (probably Sansa’s consort) he’d be a competent administrator and a gift to the smallfolk
Ironically I absolutely despised him right up until he died, where I was forced to think about how s1-s4 LF would NEVER either make the decisions the later one made, or get caught in the way he does, not even arguing his case and just begging for forgiveness even though he's established as such a slimy manipulator, and showed exactly how rotten he is to the very person he's asking for forgiveness. You're telling me he doesn't even try to manipulate the Knights of the Vale, relatively non-political warriors he should be able to dance circles around intellectually, in order to save himself in that moment? Insane DnD butchered his character so bad his death, which should've been satisfying, turned me into a fan that wanted to see more of him
@@darkflower1729 The same goes for tyrion and varys, high intellectual characters which had the IQ of a coffee bean in later seasons.
@zodiacUNDsyndicat Tyrion having literally every decision of his in s7/s8 be a bad idea and then being shocked everytime even though he shouldn't even just be learning from his mistakes, but should've never made those mistakes in the first place🙃🙃🙃
Game of Thrones is so long gone now...WHY do I keep clicking on those videos, damn it
Cause *pop* quality content you know, either to shit on (seasons 5-8) or praise (1-4)
That’s my way of revisiting the series without actually watching it, it was a top series for me once
Because regardless of the ending, it was still a very impactful show for millions of people :)
F@@EmyN
There's still the books... sike the Winds have blown them away
Cersei and Tywin are my two favorites, I would say that those two actors gave the best performance out of any character in the show by far
Hard agree, they are the best actors and best characters.
Tywin fookin Lannister
Tywin the God damm highwind
By order of the peaky fookin lannisters
Badass alpha beast
I love #KarlDhrogo the most!
Yes, but my boy Tyrion shot him when he was taking a poop. Tyrion the real GOAT!!
Arya poking the Night King to end that underutilized storyline would be like if the Joker died during the Dark Knight's interrogation scene...
Joffrey is my fav. i know everyone hates him but he made the show interesting every time he was on screen
He’s supposed to be hated, and he did a great job being hateable
You love to hate him.
A well written and perfectly acted villain!
Exactly. Even Tywin had good sides to him, there are many viewers who liked him. But literally everyone hates Joffrey. That makes him the best villian in the story. Same for the actor...he was literally threatened because peoplegot triggered by his face alone. No one else managed that.
He's also kinda funny like hes so stupid yet powerful. And he's always getting humbled.
The Tully family are the biggest villains of the show. Liza killed John Aaron, which started this whole mess. Cat kidnapped Tyrion which caused Jamie to delay Ned’s leaving of Kings Landing. Edmure went for that fort instead of doing what Rob told him which made Rob have to beg Frey for passage across the bridge.
Uhm. That was not Edmures Fault. His mistake was long After Robb had a deal Made with Frey in that he fought for some mills to save some common folk and ruined Robbs plan by that to trap and kill the Mountain. The Frey Deal was Cats fault
I dont see much wrong with this statement
@@pascalheinrich3990Thank you, I was just about to mention that
@@pascalheinrich3990 : Watch episode 3 of season 3. They had to go back to the Frey’s and beg for more men because of the “mill debacle” caused by Edmur. They made a deal in return for men that Edmur would marry the Frey girl. Thus the red wedding.
@@FMD70757that was not because of Edmure but Rob breaking his word to Frey after he married Talissa and cause of that Made Frey angry and his man leaving him. He offered a new deal and kinda made Edmure a sacrifice to fix this mistake of his.
17:19 in the books if I remember correctly it is not ambiguous at all. She specifically said that if Drogo tears off the bandage she used to treat him he will die. Which he of course does like 2 paragraphs later.
They also put a bunch of mud in the wound as treatment 😂. Homeboy died of completely avoidable sepsis.
@@jessjess23brooks89 Pretty Jess, Jess Jess Jess, I’ll have you know, Mud is an extremely effective element that has been used to treat wounds and to this day serves as a panacea for all sorts of ailments. It can be used to clean your windows, brush your teeth, even feed your dog (makes dog grow strong). Some have said babies can eat it to gain more intellofgence but I’m not so sure.
Most of all mud is expert At treating all kinds of wounds or other issues. Smear some mud on any cut you get. Attach it to a bandaid and keep it on there for extended period. Hardened Mud can also be used in surgery to replace dysfunctional organs, simply shape it into the shape of that organ, and it will function as the organ did.
This is a strategy used by many doctors in the ancient world , and as we know doctors of the 12,000 BC era and before are ranound for their wisdom and skill of healing, much of which has been lost . They could heal ANYTHING it is believed
removes the bandages cuz he thought they were uncomfortable, smears mud into his open wound, drinks like a fish during his treatment, he literally did everything thing you weren’t supposed to do lmao
It's a cool list but part of the point of GOT was that there are no villains and heroes. I'm surprised Mance is on the list, for example, when Stannis or Melisandre are not, while characters like Jaime, The Hound, and Daenerys "flipped" from hero to villain (or vice versa) throughout the story.
Stannis in the show is a tragic protagonist. In the books he's just a character.
Yeah, in other videos as well, this guy doesn't seem to get that ASOIAF characters are supposed to be grey AND imperfect. They make mistakes, they can change their minds, they can do seemingly illogical things even, just like real life. And you can't really flesh out eeeevery single character, not even in a book.
i agree with you, but still most characters are clearly hero- or villaincoded
I agree with you with respect to some of the people on the list, but there definitely are pure villains. Ramsay Bolton, Joffrey, The Night King and book Euron for example are definitely within the 'villain' category.
Glad to hear you talk about characters like Locke, Karl Tanner and Myranda, I always liked them and I thought they were underrated villains
Locke could have been one of my favourites if he didn't die in season 4
Karl would have been very annoyed not to have been included.
The Night King is just ridiculous. No truth, no character, just a cartoon denouement...I mean, really, his death destroys his entire army?
His death destroying the rest isn't the problem. Him not actually fighting someone or have some interaction with others or at least with Bran are the problem
Its hilarious that the only thing we know about the Night King is that he's a simp.
the night king came all this way to only kill theon greyjoy…
Cersei Lannister is the greatest female villain in the history of cinema and I will stand by that until the day I die. She was just incredible.
shame she died by bricks
by a mile
No, Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
@@kristofferjonshult7795THIS
Wish she got to do something after her incredible arc in season 6, that season finale is still one of the best episodes of television I’ve ever seen.
There is no Game of Thrones without Little Finger. #1 villian in my book
The whole video is fantastic but the emphasis on "SINGLEHANDEDLY" when discussing Locke sent me through the roof xD.
100% agree with you on Euron. On top of that, I think all you have to do to fix him is call him Osmund Kettleblack.
I thought he was a bit more like Aurane Waters lol
@@megamovieman101 Oh I like that!
But, osmund kettleblack doesn't control a giant navy
@megamovieman101 yeah aurane would work better
i listen to the assassin's creed 2 and brotherhood soundtracks all the time and instantly recognized that. These song are coming back.
Wow, didn't clock until you said
I thought I could hear that in the background 😩
Pretty nostalgic tracks.
Mannnn these tracks are nostalgic.
I remember the "Lord of Bones" said to Ygritte something like "What would Mance want with a dead traitor's bastard?", and then I was thinking "ok, it's plausible that he's heard of Ned Stark, but how in the hell would he know that he was labeled a 'traitor' to the crown in a city over a thousand miles away and that they executed him?" when the only mode of communication are ravens.
If I remember right, in the books it's described in detail how important the Starks were to the wildlings since they controlled the North for centuries and were what stood in their way to move south. But I don't remember how exactly the wildlings learnt about the death of the Stark of Winterfell, and how quick
Iwan Rheon said that he took inspiration from the character Alex DeLarge (Malcolm McDowell) in A Clockwork Orange
to play Ramsey Bolton.
Makes sense lol
Well, well, well, well, well, well, well
My fear of Ramsey started in the books I was worried I was going to be let down
I was not
@@rosemaryjones5550 I was definitely let down. He just seemed like a perverted little demented hobbit in the show. Not a hulking, menacing, truly deranged sociopathic manipulator that also happened to enjoy torture as a part time hobby. His book version was much more terrifying. Iwan Rheon (and the actor that played Roose Bolton as well) was just not visually a good fit for Roose and Ramsay. Although Iwan did a good job with the content he was given. He seemed like a beefed up version of Karl Tanner more than Ramsay Snow.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI I know but considering everyone was considerably muted I wasn’t disappointed
Ramsey could have ended up a torture version of the mountain based on what I worried would happen
I LOVE that the assassin's creed 2 tracks are playing in the background!
Glad to see The Legend of Gin Alley so high up on the list.
Fookin Legend
Pycelle was played by Julian Glover who has the distinction of also playing villains in:
Doctor Who ( Scaroth/Tancredi - City of Death)
Star Wars (General Veers - Empire Strikes Back)
James Bond (Kristatos - For Your Eyes Only)
Indiana Jones (Walter Donovan - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade)
I didn't know I needed this video until it was out
Protagonist isn't the opposite of villain. It just means leading character, good or bad.
The ac 2 music at the background gives me joy
That soundtrack is so insanely good!
The kid who played Joffrey is extremely impressive as an actor.
Lysa is an even worse villain considering she was the one who sent that letter to Catelyn in episode 1, warning her against the Lannisters, after poisoning Jon Arryn herself
I think the fact that Tywin spends the first two seasons out in the battle fields really adds to his gravity when he comes to Kings Landing.
Great video. Aren't Melisandre and Stannis Baratheon considered villains?
Nope
No, but Qyburn and Mance Ryder do... 🙄🤦🤷🤔🤨
Stannis is the main protagonist though
@@adamsilverman2 Just because he fought against the Lannisters doesn’t make him a protagonist. Remember, he wanted to kill Robb. He also killed his own brother and let his daughter be burned alive at the stake. Pretty villainous if you ask me
@comeatmebro8120 I'd say he's a tragic protagonist rather than a villain. Tragic because he stood essentially no chance at victory and had to turn to the witch (melisandre) for her power and she then corrupted him. He's the protagonist because we follow him and he has plenty of scenes that make him sympathetic like his "you are my daughter" scene and saving the nights watch
allister's picture made me chuckle, thank you sir. good video
This channel is my crackcokaine
You should try the real thing! Next thing you know, you’re a liberal getting free stuff
The Waif is ranked waaaaaay too high.
Excellent video as always.
No. 1 villain for me is Daenerys Targaryen. She's like Cersei is so many ways but instead of acknowledging her cruelty, she thinks she's innocent and doing the right thing.
SPILL
She’s the Thanos of this universe which makes her the worst/best villain in the whole series. I hated her so much my second time watching it
I definitely don't think she thinks she's innocent. A huge part of her arc was devoted to her trying to be a liberator instead of a conqueror; trying not to be like her father.
Of course that was all thrown out in the end.
I honestly think that dany changes so much throughout the show and - especially with her ridiculously rushed turn to the mad side of the Targaryen coin - it’s hard to classify her as a villain or hero. She earned names like great mother and breaker of chains for a reason but so did she deserve the name mad queen. She freed many in Essos and played a massive part in saving Westeros and defeating the night king, yet all she ever got in return was hatred and pain. If George R R Martin would finish the books, he prbly would even make her madness understandable I reckon
Dany is FAR from as cruel as Cersei
Great video and it absolutely wasn’t too long! Always a pleasure to hear you explain your thoughts
You nailed it with Euron
Love the Assassin's Creed 2 music in the background.
35: Smalljon Umber deserved the absolute bottom spot because in the novels, he died like a badass trying to save Robb during the Red Wedding
31: Olly is a cheap stand-in for Satin from the books, who was cut because an underage boy sex worker is too much even for HBO
22: In the novels it's pretty clear that Drogo ripping the bandage off is what led to his death
20: Locke is a cheap stand-in for Vargo Hoat from the novels. He's such a different character that GRRM made them change his name (back when he cared about such things)
12: I'm still partial to the theory that the High Sparrow is Howland Reed
11: If you know what to look for, Roose was hedging his bets against Robb from the very start
7: The biggest irony is that Alliser was sent to the Wall because he was a Targaryen loyalist on the losing end of Robert's Rebellion, and died not knowing Jon was Rhaegar's son
Seems to me like you're following the logic of "If it's different from the book, it's bad", which is a very disagreeable position to take. Vargo Hoat is such an exotic character that would hint at a much more interconnected and larger world than what we are getting in the show. The change to make him into a fellow northerner makes him feel more grounded in Westerosi civilisation.
'Cheap stand in' satin doesn't have a personality he's just another castle black npc, at least only has somewhat of an arc
Your channel is so good, i cant stop watching 😅
You forgot Daenerys!
RIIIIIGHT
Daenerys was really a hero until the end of the show. Everyone at the beginning was rooting for Daenerys to take the Iron Throne not only because she was the true heir but because we all felt she would’ve been the best choice then D & D totally turned Daenerys’s personality 180 degrees in the last couple episodes with her going from wanting to help the small folk and not wanting to be the Queen of ashes to literally turning the population of King’s Landing into ashes so it looked liked the North covered in snow
@@nichhodge8503 I feel like it makes more sense after watching House of the Dragon. Like how Targaryens get drunk off the power of their dragons
Assassins creed 2 music in this video
*CHEFS KISS*
Tywin is my favorite character of any show, and Littlefinger is a close 2nd
Tywin is and was the greatest character. Charles Dance killed it. First scene he skins a deer while telling Jamie to achieve glory.
I remember reading how excited Pilou Asbæk was to play Book!Euron, only to end up with D&D's caricature version. Poor guy did the best he could with the material given to him.
Your suggestion about Qyburn making an undead army was something I thought of. Specially he was so curious with the zombies during that awkward meeting in the dragon pits.
Your take on Qyburn and his own army of the dead is fantastic.
You know, i JUST commented on an old video of yours yesterday about how Dave and Dan shit the bed SO hard in the end that people don't even TALK about Game of Thrones anymore... Now, today, you post a cool video 🤦
Your comment was more accurate before HOTD came out. Absolutely none one was talking about GOT anymore because of how bad the show ended. And thats what made HOTD so impressive because it brought back an apathetic fan base and was actually good
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Great video! I think you could have put in a few others that were villains for a time, because their screen time and impact as villains is more than some of the minor villains you included in the video:
Melisandre - Her arc after season 5 was a little too quick imo, but I remember in seasons 2-5 she being the villain I hated the most. I mean, she did give birth to a literal murderous demon.
Jamie - His first seasons he was the perfect evil Prince Charming.
Theon - His villain arc was not as respectable but his impact was there and he had a good amount of screen time.
I would put Styr (25) a bit higher (15-20). You gave him a lot of deserved praise. I’d switch him with Randyll Tarly (19).
Also Meryn Trant (29) definitely deserves to be higher. He was a minor antagonist but was on Arya’s list for a reason. His scenes in the brothel were so gross and evil. I’d put him around 15.
Loved all your explanations!
Agreed! And also Melissandre poisoned the one old priest/advisor who was like a grandfather to Stannis in her first season
The apple didn’t fall far from the tree with Tywin and Cersei Lannister. Poisonous throughout the series.
Fantastic list.
Your idea for what could have been done with Qyburn is actually brilliant
The worst goes to Bran the Broken. He wasn't even in season 5 LMAO. Even Ghost has a better story..
Now I go watch Game of thrones season 7 and 8. Wish me luck :)
I can't wait to see who sits on the Throne. No way D and D can mess this up! Jon or Dany (fingers crossed) :D
Loved your list!!!!! Tyvm!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Big thumbs up for using music from AC2
Appreciate the Assassin's Creed background music😊
6:40 also note that Dany just says "i'm Drogo's widow" and he just believes her. He doesn't even consider the idea she may be lying :)
it was pretty well known that he married a dragon queen i think or at least a foreigner
I would argue that the audience was supposed to see quite a few of Dani's actions as wrong and villainous (like murdering all the Khals etc) just to foreshadow her Targaryen insanity and becoming a villain later.
I would honestly say that you missed Sandor Clegane. But overall, great vid!!
I’m now looking forward to a heroes ranking!
Ramsay is my favorite. Unlike Joffrey he was willing to get his hands dirty, he wasn't a spoiled kid but a bastard who would do anything to earn his place. Also I think his death was perfect, died violently as he lived. I loved his relationship with Myranda for the same reasons you mentioned, and the fact that in the end he decides to feed her to his dogs seems insensitive but I think it was a significant act for him and they let us see a little bit of his "human" side.
Every scene he was in was fun and entertaining, which I also thought with Viserys, except that Ramsey wasn't a ridiculous looking villain but more like charismatic and intriguing. Great video and I like that you included Tanner and Styr. Those actors nailed it too
I love how you use the AC 2 Soundtracks haha
That thumbnail is everything! 🔥
The guy who plays Karl Tanner.. is quickly moving up my list of favorite actors! Before GoT, he was in Turn: Washington's Spies.. another great show that he absolutely killed it in!!!
He also does an awesome job playing a real piece of work on The Expanse, which is a great show if you like sci fi.
@@skyegebhart2277 I will definitely check it out!
This video made me realize I've forgot more about game of thrones than i remember
Euron from the books would go pretty high up though!
I don’t think I can disagree with the placing of any of them. Great list!
Loving the AC music in the background
Not only is Littlefingers chaos is a ladder monologue epic & brilliant- so is the outside scene that accompanies it. Panning from Joffrey to Ross tied & dead on the bed! Perfection 👌🏽
Cersei>=Ramsay>Littlefinger>=Joffrey>NightKing>others
You have some very interesting hangups lol
This might be controversial - but I think Ramsay is incredibly overrated. Personally I never found him very terryfying or intimidating, except for some of his earlier moments with Theon/Reek. Overall I think he's kind of annoying. He should not be higher than Cersei or Littlefinger.
I also don't quite understand why he is described as "unpredictable". He's one of the most obvious batshit crazy characters in the show. When he's being nice you can see that it's fake.
Completely agree, Cersei is the heart of game of thrones, while Ramsey is only really a threat season 6.
I disagree wholeheartedly. What makes Ramsay great and what makes him different from the other insane villain (Joffrey) is that Ramsay is extremely intelligent and calculated. Joffrey acts on emotions almost exclusively, while Ramsay almost always have a grand and devious plan. Both are great in their own right but Ramsay comes out on top for me becuse of that element of calculation and thought disguised as unpredictability.
And don’t get me started on Cersei. She was a great Villain in s1-4, she was alright in 5-6, but then she became so bland and one dimensional that I couldn’t for the life of me understand HOW she became the final boss of the show.
Totally agree, I don't get why people like Ramsay so much. It's crazy to me that he got ranked higher than his father, who is way more menacing.
@@CosmicPotato Agreed Roose is much scarier than Ramsay.
@@Jungbeck i feel like when speaking of the merits of the series and any of the characters in it, it should be customary to just ignore season 5-8 altogether, as they changed the tone and themes of the series so much as to be almost unrecognizable from how it started.
These vids are definitely more entertaining than seasons 6-8
I was waiting for your review about Shōgun but that’s okay.
I'm actually working on that right now. This video was such a big chongus that it overlapped into my period of time for Shogun.
@@SupercutsDelight oh that’s good. Cuz I really like your opinion about the new series. And ranking every villain in got is actually a good idea for a video. I will see it and make sure to but my opinion about it❤️
that is actually a great video and i mostly agree. but I think that you should have ranked Jimmy. I know he turns into a protagonist later on, but I still think he was one if not the best villain in the first season. overall, good ranking.
If Tywin isn't number 1 ima riot like a kings landing peasant.
I appreciate your vid, thanks for uploading! I'm only up to #31, but most of your arguments against characters so far are, no character development and/or lack of screen time. If these minor characters had more screen time, then other major plot points/important characters, would be rushed. There's only so much time in an episode. Looking forward to watching the rest of the vid!
I can't believe Stannis or Melisandre couldn't even make it to top 40...
Stannis should totally be on there. Melisandre is excused as she helped the good guys in the final battle against the dead
@@BenRangelif you still think there are 'good guys', you missed the point
@@gelatinouscube2342 I get it, but this list was about Villains so I’m leaning into it
Stannis isn't really a villain
Stannis was a anti hero until d and d made him burn his daughter
I agree with most of this list EXCEPT The Waif. She is criminally high on this list IMO. She was not intriguing like the Night King, she was annoying. The actress is good and I love her in Andor but even the acting couldn’t save the character. She should be a spot or two above Euron IMO.
What ? Mance is considered a villain and Melisandre who literally burned a child isn't ?? Well... Okk... Other than that, good list. I feel like I'm probably the only one who prefers Roose Bolton as a villain to his bastard Ramsay. Roose has this very cold approach, whereas Ramsay was scary as hell in S3 but then I was just a bit tired with his character as seasons were going on... Spot on for Cersei, Baelish, Tywin and Joffrey ! Also, I'd put the Night King very lower, not a big fan of this entire arc and Pycelle higher, I honestly hated Pycelle
If I remembered well Mance on the book had a « magic horn » that he could use to destroy pretty everything. But he decides to not use it and play fair. So I think is not really a villain
We just gon ignore Craster's keep tho? Like he had been having daughters with his daughters for YEARS 😭
you cant have the night king in the top 10 he was arguably a bigger disappointment then Euron and he had more hyped and scenes and all we got was a barely visible episode with Arya Ray Skywalking into killing him
Euron could have been an absolute wildcard of a villain who could significantly switch dynamics from scene to scene
I cannot believe the writers ruined the 2nd half of the whole series when they had such great source material to pull from.
Love the AC revelations music in the background :)
The Night King has no business being so high.
The Assassin's Creed 2 soundtrack in the background is just honey to my ears 😊