I like the Dothraki beliefs “sure, all yalls gods might exist I won’t fight you on that. But there IS a horse god too” I’m agnostic but imma start telling anyone who asks me what I believe that exact same thing
This was actually how the Roman’s viewed it as well. They believed other gods like the Celtic and Germanic gods were real and even sometimes brought them into there own
That's my view. My mom's devout Irish Catholic and she's fine with the fact that I'm pagan because I don't deny that her God exists (as much as any other gods do). Both my mom and I like to point out the Bible says "Thou shall have no gods before me" not that there are no other gods lol.
Actual phrases go: "For the night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away" and: "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger". The show removed those parts for some reason...
List below are rest of the religions mainly in Essos * Aquan the Red Bull, whose priests sacrifice calves. * Bakkalon of the Sword, the Pale Child favored of soldiers * the Black Goat, a deity worshiped in Qohor. * the Great Shepherd, the deity of the Lhazareen. * the Hooded Wayfarer, a patron of the poor. * the Lady of Spears, the deity of the Unsullied. * the Merling King, a deity worshiped by sailors. * the Moon-Pale Maiden, another deity worshiped by sailors. * the Pattern, a labyrinth leading to wisdom. * Semosh and Selloso, brother gods with twin temples. * the Silent God, who is worshiped at the Stones of the Silent God. * the Stone Cow of Faros, a deity worshiped on Faros. * Trios, a three-headed deity. * the Weeping Lady of Lys, a favorite of old women. * Father of Waters, His temple on the Isle of the Gods is rebuilt anew whenever the Father takes a new bride each year on his feast days. * Pantera, a six-breasted cat goddess of Lys. * Yndros of the Twilight, who is male by day and female by night. * Saagael, the giver of pain, known as faceless Saagael. * Maiden-Made-of-Light, a goddess in Yi Ti. * The Church of Starry Wisdom, also known as the Cult of Starry Wisdom, is a sinister religion that persists in many port cities throughout the known world. * The Moon Mother, a deity mentioned to Arya Stark by the Kindly man. * Mother Rhoyne and her associated lesser gods are still worshiped in Essos by orphans of the Greenblood who have returned to the river Rhoyne, and there also seem to be descendants of the Rhoynar still living around the river, who still tell the stories associated with the religion. Unnamed religions include: * A small household idol which looked like a pregnant woman with swollen breasts and a bat's head. * The Gardens of Gelenei is a temple on the Isle of the Gods in Braavos, Gelenei may possibly be the name of the god or goddess worshiped there but this not confirmed. * The love goddess of Lys, whose naked figure is on Lysene coinage; it is at present unknown if she is the same as the Weeping Lady of Lys. * The Fountain of the Drunken God may or may not be dedicated to a god. * The many gods honoured in the Holy Refuge also called The Warren, it is a temple in Braavos, within it the forgotten gods are honoured. * The Dothraki believe that the Sun and the Moon are a god and goddess and that they are husband and wife. * The Temple of Memory is a temple in Qarth where petitioners seeking audience with the Pureborn must perform a traditional sacrifice. It is unknown which god or gods are worshiped there. * The god of the Bearded priests of Norvos who's name is unknown, because the sect is so secretive the name of their god is revealed only to initiates. * The hundred gods of the Sarnori, who since the Century of Blood are only worshiped in the city of Saath. * In the ancient (now lost) city of Lyber on the grasslands of Central Essos they worshipped a spider goddess, as well as a serpent god, the acolytes of the two gods waged a bloody and endless war between one another. Other regions * On they Isle of Naath off the northwestern coast of Sothoryos, they worship the Lord of Harmony. There is also a wooden hall dedicated to the god in Braavos. * In Leng there are they Old Ones, gods who live deep below the ruined subterranean cities on the island and who instructed the God-Empress on at least four occasions to massacre all foreigners. * The God-Empress is worshiped in Leng. * In the Summer Isles they worship a score of gods whose many laws are written upon the Talking Trees, the god and goddess of love, beauty, and fertility being the most favoured. * On the Isle of Toads in the Basilisk Isles there is an ancient idol, a greasy black stone crudely carved into the semblance of a gigantic toad of malignant aspect, some forty feet high. * The corsairs of the Basilisk Isles offer the skulls of their victims to a dark god on Skull Island. * In Sothoryos the Sothoryi, often called the Brindled Men, worship dark gods with obscene rites. * The Jogos Nhai worship several gods. * The dark and hungry gods of the Patrimony of Hyrkoon are still worshiped in the cities of the Bone Mountains. * The gods of Ibben. * The gods of the Thousand Islands, squamous, fish-headed gods, whose likenesses rise from their stony shores, visible only when the tide recedes. * In Slaver's Bay the Ghiscari still worship the gods of Ghis, with Graces as their priestesses.
@@pavishankar8021 Valyria was an advanced Society, maybe at the start of some kinda reinasseance of their own, they knew magic and gods were separated thing so no fear could be felt
Most of religions in the world of asoiaf: Magic, visions, body swap, krakens, deep sea lovercraftian horrors, useful charms and spells Faith of the Seven: *We dont do that here*
@@CSPaffy Maiden/Mother/Crone or the Triple Goddess is a neopagan deity. She represents the cycle of life and in some Wicca beliefs her male consort is the Horned God, but in the Faith of the Seven she is matched by Warrior/Father/Smith + the Stranger (Death) to form the full life cycle of the God of Seven.
I love that every religion in Westeros has manifested itself beyond human comprehension one way or another... Except for the Faith of the Seven, the most popular one. LOL
You forgot to mention that the faith only made the exception to the targs because Maegor the Cruel started a holy war against the faith when they tried to tell him incest was an abomination
Makes me wonder why The Old Valyrian Gods abandoned the people of Valyria and the continent as a whole. What unforgivable sin was done to invoke their wrath?
@@AnnaBellaChannel in what context? because dragon riding was a practice for a while and gods didn't care so they must have started riding them in some other way
@@AnnaBellaChannel Nettles, a common girl, and Sheep Stealer disproves this. Non-Valyrians can ride dragons if they are careful, patient, lucky, and ballsy as hell.
When the First Man killed Childern of the Forest, believers of Old Gods dropped. Then the White Walkers came. The First Man took religion of Old Gods as believers in agreement with the Childern, and that belief is what won against to Long Night. Now there are almost no believers of Old Gods at the start of Ice and Fire storyline and the Long Night is coming again.
you know that the white walkers came, because the children of the forest created them after loosing the fight against the first man. But they lost controle over them so they made an alliance with the first man to stop the white walkers. It had to do less with the number of believers, but rather number of living vs. dead.
@@adamryan977 alliance of Childern and First man never happened. Old Nan has the wrong facts as per G.R.R.M. All man have wrong facts of what happened. He compered it to Tower of Babel or the flood.
@@xxkanezxx6903 I doubt George R.R martin would have let them strive that far from his own story to made up their own origin story of the white walkers. On the other hand i doubt George has any idea how his books will end and will never finish his books 😞
Relating to your comment about wanting a show about Valyria, I would love to see a show about Nymeria and the Rhoynar. We would see the Rhoynar and Valyria at their height, then places like Naath, the Summer Isles and Sothoryos that are pretty minimally explored, and finally seeing pre Targaryan Westeros for the first time.
Those would be awesome to see! George recently revealed that the Ten Thousand Ships prequel revolving around Nymeria has been revived so that is very exciting!
@@yasminadavis9986 It’s been a long while so I don’t really remember everything’s placement in the timeline, but if that’s the case I’m hoping we get anything from Sarnor.
There are several indications that say some of these deities are real mainly the ones they showed like Rillor and the old gods yes you can say it’s just magic ok but can you prove that no deities exist? No me personally if i lived in the world of Game of thrones and worshiped rillor and received visions from the flames and brought back the dead I’ll probably believe too
I read a comment under the Jon Snow resurrection clip here on UA-cam that tells a very interesting yet terrifying fact: when Melisandre asks Jon what he saw after he died he responds “nothing” (insert mandatory Jon Snow joke here) thats actually horrible, we know that (some) gods exist in the ASOIAF universe and they care so little about humans that there is no reward or punishment in the afterlife. All your struggles, your actions, your choiches are completelly, utterly meaningless.
My only gripe with this comment is the subject matter; Jon Snow. I don't see why he would've been given an afterlife when he didn't really have any God, and I just don't see the Old Gods giving him one cause he wasn't part of the Children along with any of the human followers.
Your choices aren't meaningless just ebcause there isn't an after life. Your choices impact you in this very life and the life of others, specially in GoT, where the actions of the ones we follow through the narrative are very important. I think it can be comforting knowing you won't have an eternal life, which is a lot more time than we can grasp. We should be present in the moment and choose our actions based on our values and what we want for us and the world, not because we want to have a warm spot in the after life.
@sarahrose410 Reminds me of Gnosticism. Gnostics were an early heretical sect of Christianity who believed that the physical world was created by the Demiurge (devil) who they identify as the God in the Old Testament. They believe the real God is Jesus Christ. Gnostics are considered heretics by all other Christians for obvious reasons.
Yeah, but Zoroastrianism was historically more tolerant than that. This is not to say that there was no opposition to other religions, it's that it's not as extreme as christianity, for example.
Constant swaying images made me dizzy, I understand you want something moving on the screen but the still images is more than enough for this great content, thanks for putting this together
Hey Jaydone. Just wanted to say it’s cool what you’re doing with original content and I think you have the potential to go far. Keep up the great work!
I really like the Old Gods of Westeros ; it is a quiet religion, which does not demand crazy things from the believers, it is close to nature, it is not about fanaticism or apocalyptic messages or '' us versus them'' - instead, it sort of preaches the unity of all beings that live in the same world; everything is part of a broader whole. Plus, no elaborate rites or prayers there. I have to say, I am not into religion as a concept in general. Perhaps that' s why I would prefer something more realistic and simple over beliefs that remind me of the world that we currently live in.
Good material! I personally don't mind the moving images, but it's probably a good idea to find something else to keep it dynamic. Good job, enjoyed the knowledge.
Lord of Light has a LOT of parallels to Manichaeism, except Manichaeans were not supposed to take the initiative into their own hands and fight for whatever prophetic visions their Religion had: Doing so is actually a trick cast by the Prince of Darkness meant to keep your inner light within his Realm. You have to pretty much embrace pacifism akin to Jains in order to finally release your Light.
And that's why Manichaeism went extinct so soon and so long ago. Also look into the Shakers, a Christian sect that was popular in the US. They required celibacy of adherents. They slowly went essentially extinct.
Three levels of religion impudence: • There are other gods, we just choose to worship ours • There are no other gods, only ours is true • You all worship our God, you just don't realize it
Here are all of the Religions that I could think of that Jaydone did not include, there might be more that i dont know about in places like yi ti or ashi Three Daughters Trios Weeping Lady Princley Arbiter Lady of the Waves Cold Gods Mother Rhoyne House of the Undying Ghisgari Pagan Bronze Gods (Dead Religion) Faith of the Eight (Dead Religion) Darkwaterrite (Dead Religion) Storm God (Dead Religion) Bearded God (Dead Religion)
I hoped that Lord of Light and Greatest Other get more weight in the plot as their presence is the most felt in the plot. There are working magic by red priests and clearly dead guys from behind the wall connected to greatest other, so this seems like most realistic religion in the story (also many faced guy, he looks pretty effective). Also yeah, there are many connections between these beliefs. Hope to see more in the future
I think the Dothraki religion says the earth will come to an end when the grass is all white which sounds like if the dark night came to pass and the ground would be covered in snow by white walkers
That's honestly a way better answer than the real one, lmao. Jorah says in the first book that it's Ghost Grass, a kind of grass that basically poisons the soil for other plants and allows nothing else to grow
You failed to mention the sacrifices made in front of the Weirwood trees to the old gods. This is seen in the books when Bran feels the tree roots drink the blood of the victim. You also failed to mention Azor Ahai in the Lord of Light segment. He was a champion of the Lord of Light previously. Again, you leave out the fact that the Many-Faced God is the deity of the poor, down and down-trodden. They seek the Many-Faced God at the House of Black and White not only for peace but also justice.
@@missym877 referring to the title isn't enough when breaking down the religion. This whole video was very lackluster. As someone who is a bit fan of this series, it's upsetting to see this kind of omission.
@@RockChick63174 I've actually been considering it since this is the quality being put out there. Also we are not entitled being fans...we are passionate about the source material. If you can't handle it, make a video explaining just that :)
It's actually a misconception that the Andals conquered the entirety of Westeros. They only conquered the Vale and the Riverlands. The Reach, Stormlands, Dorne and the Stormlands were never conquered by the Andals and were continued to be ruled by First Men Kings, until the Rhoynar arrived and took Dorne. The Riverlands were also subsequently conquered by the Durrandon kings which was a First Men house followed by being conquered by the Iron Islands. They did integrate into society in those kingdoms as well and create their own houses but it was more so Andal warlords taking certain regions before subsequently swearing fealty to the First Men kings and intermarrying with them. Most Westerosi are probably of First Men originally with the Vale having the highest concentration of Andal Ancestry. Even with that considered most major houses in Westeros are of First Men origin who subsequently intermarried with the Andals and converted to the Faith of the Seven. Even the Riverlands has mostly First Men houses and the Vale does have a good number of them though I am not sure if it is the majority or not. What sets the North apart is that absolutely no Andal house made it North of the neck and the First Men culture is more intact.
Great video as always. I feel the the Ghiscari gods/religion deserve a shout out. The show didn't really dive into it but i feel like the Harpy's and all the people giving Dany shit in Mereen were all following that religion
I just have to say, I like the information and the delivery but I had to stop watching two minutes in because the shaking images and text were unbearable. I hope you make a new version with static images, because I'd still love to watch this video.
While in the show the drowning and thereafter "resurrecting" (CPR) of the victim is used as a ceremony to crown a king, in the book it is far more widespread and a common practice for those devout to the drowned god.
Man you might want to second guess adding paralaxing, or whatever effect is the slight shaking of the photos. Most things never bother me but hat gave me crazy motion sickness
I like how most of these have some vague resemblance to real world religions without being exact copies...but than the Lord of Light religion is literally just Zoroastrianism.😂
And to what religion do the naked crowned women with winga statues in slavers bay belong? We see these everywhere in the show in the 3 main cities there.
Really great video and really well explained! I know others have mentioned, but keep the pictures still lmao If you want em to move to keep it dynamic or interesting, id suggest just a simple pan or zoom on a full screen image
It's kind of funny how obviously Zoroastrian the Lord of Light religion is. Zoroastrians believe that there will be three future saviors or Saoshyants who will destroy all the evil in the world, which lines up with the whole dragon has three heads thing.
I heavily prefer this style of video editing, and hope it continues. It's easy information to listen too and the visuals just make everything more memorable.
@@jaydonefilms If you do talk about the Maiden-Made-of-Light! Its a major religion in Essos, specifically Yi-Ti and you can definetely introduce the cool lore about how it relates to Chinese Philosophy and also you can bring up how it talks about the Long Night. Overall I think although the show never shows these religions I definetely think you should talk about them as they are still very interesting.
Religion is one of the things Game of Thrones does best! I can think of no other franchise that has so many different well-thought out fictional religions. Maybe Dungeons & Dragons and Warcraft also have interesting and diverse religions, but still, GoT does it best and is one of the ways it is actually better than Lord of the Rings.
I stopped doing the moving pictures in my recent videos after all of the complaints but I was considering bringing it back again until I read this comment. I without a doubt am never bringing it back now.
NGL it would be cool if we got actually like a mythology about those Westeros gods and present maybe them as annunnaki or something like this. It would be a cool thing.
I just want to see the start of the others and the first war agaist them or the andal invasion which ...is also in the time flux of when the sheep famer valaryians start playing with blood magic and making dragons for the first time
I like to think of these gods as players in a game of civilization. Each god speaks to their players through various means but they are all competing with each other through the people within the world.
Also, besides incest, the followers of the Old Gods of Valyria sometimes practiced polygamy, compared to the Westeros where marriage is strictly between two people. Some form of polygamy was practiced on the Iron Islands and by the Dothraki too.
One of the things I actually love about GoT is how they kinda swap paganism and monotheism. How Paganism is the norm and most widespread while monotheism is seen as the demonic one and seen as "witchcraft" very interesting seeing a world where these ideas are swapped
Editing note: I find the little motion effect you've used for still images to be very distracting. If you really want to achieve a similar effect of motion, it might be better to have a pan or zoom within the image frame while keeping the frame itself from moving. It's less disorienting and more subtle.
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Excellent content here
I like the Dothraki beliefs “sure, all yalls gods might exist I won’t fight you on that. But there IS a horse god too” I’m agnostic but imma start telling anyone who asks me what I believe that exact same thing
I totally agree
This was actually how the Roman’s viewed it as well. They believed other gods like the Celtic and Germanic gods were real and even sometimes brought them into there own
That's my view. My mom's devout Irish Catholic and she's fine with the fact that I'm pagan because I don't deny that her God exists (as much as any other gods do).
Both my mom and I like to point out the Bible says "Thou shall have no gods before me" not that there are no other gods lol.
@@jackj9816i mean they quite literally adopted the greek pantheon as their own and just tweaked names and some lore.
No wonder religions formed, so many of you are out your minds lol.
Actual phrases go: "For the night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away" and: "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger".
The show removed those parts for some reason...
Not short and punchy enough to be a memorable one liner/motto
Classic D&D @@NoEvidenceForGod
The second one was actually said
@@NoEvidenceForGod But still way better...
@@arvinroidoatienza7082the first one was said by Melisandre when Cressen tried to poison her.
a book set in prime valyria would be so fire
Literally
That would ruin the mystery
Shit a book finishing the actual series would be fire af too
@@suspencer-incorporated ikr... lets start with the basics here lol
@@YaBoiDREXnormally I’d agree but every lore reveal George shares has been consistently great and well received
the old gods seem the most sane religion of all the bunch
I mean they do condone human sacrifices to the weirwood trees
Your old gods are demons may R'hllor have mercy on you.
The Old Gods and the Moon Dancers are the most "normal" in my opinion.
@@nopuedomaseh yes moon dancers too forgot to mention them
@@Tonyfelix327
They require babies to survive.
List below are rest of the religions mainly in Essos
* Aquan the Red Bull, whose priests sacrifice calves.
* Bakkalon of the Sword, the Pale Child favored of soldiers
* the Black Goat, a deity worshiped in Qohor.
* the Great Shepherd, the deity of the Lhazareen.
* the Hooded Wayfarer, a patron of the poor.
* the Lady of Spears, the deity of the Unsullied.
* the Merling King, a deity worshiped by sailors.
* the Moon-Pale Maiden, another deity worshiped by sailors.
* the Pattern, a labyrinth leading to wisdom.
* Semosh and Selloso, brother gods with twin temples.
* the Silent God, who is worshiped at the Stones of the Silent God.
* the Stone Cow of Faros, a deity worshiped on Faros.
* Trios, a three-headed deity.
* the Weeping Lady of Lys, a favorite of old women.
* Father of Waters, His temple on the Isle of the Gods is rebuilt anew whenever the Father takes a new bride each year on his feast days.
* Pantera, a six-breasted cat goddess of Lys.
* Yndros of the Twilight, who is male by day and female by night.
* Saagael, the giver of pain, known as faceless Saagael.
* Maiden-Made-of-Light, a goddess in Yi Ti.
* The Church of Starry Wisdom, also known as the Cult of Starry Wisdom, is a sinister religion that persists in many port cities throughout the known world.
* The Moon Mother, a deity mentioned to Arya Stark by the Kindly man.
* Mother Rhoyne and her associated lesser gods are still worshiped in Essos by orphans of the Greenblood who have returned to the river Rhoyne, and there also seem to be descendants of the Rhoynar still living around the river, who still tell the stories associated with the religion.
Unnamed religions include:
* A small household idol which looked like a pregnant woman with swollen breasts and a bat's head.
* The Gardens of Gelenei is a temple on the Isle of the Gods in Braavos, Gelenei may possibly be the name of the god or goddess worshiped there but this not confirmed.
* The love goddess of Lys, whose naked figure is on Lysene coinage; it is at present unknown if she is the same as the Weeping Lady of Lys.
* The Fountain of the Drunken God may or may not be dedicated to a god.
* The many gods honoured in the Holy Refuge also called The Warren, it is a temple in Braavos, within it the forgotten gods are honoured.
* The Dothraki believe that the Sun and the Moon are a god and goddess and that they are husband and wife.
* The Temple of Memory is a temple in Qarth where petitioners seeking audience with the Pureborn must perform a traditional sacrifice. It is unknown which god or gods are worshiped there.
* The god of the Bearded priests of Norvos who's name is unknown, because the sect is so secretive the name of their god is revealed only to initiates.
* The hundred gods of the Sarnori, who since the Century of Blood are only worshiped in the city of Saath.
* In the ancient (now lost) city of Lyber on the grasslands of Central Essos they worshipped a spider goddess, as well as a serpent god, the acolytes of the two gods waged a bloody and endless war between one another.
Other regions
* On they Isle of Naath off the northwestern coast of Sothoryos, they worship the Lord of Harmony. There is also a wooden hall dedicated to the god in Braavos.
* In Leng there are they Old Ones, gods who live deep below the ruined subterranean cities on the island and who instructed the God-Empress on at least four occasions to massacre all foreigners.
* The God-Empress is worshiped in Leng.
* In the Summer Isles they worship a score of gods whose many laws are written upon the Talking Trees, the god and goddess of love, beauty, and fertility being the most favoured.
* On the Isle of Toads in the Basilisk Isles there is an ancient idol, a greasy black stone crudely carved into the semblance of a gigantic toad of malignant aspect, some forty feet high.
* The corsairs of the Basilisk Isles offer the skulls of their victims to a dark god on Skull Island.
* In Sothoryos the Sothoryi, often called the Brindled Men, worship dark gods with obscene rites.
* The Jogos Nhai worship several gods.
* The dark and hungry gods of the Patrimony of Hyrkoon are still worshiped in the cities of the Bone Mountains.
* The gods of Ibben.
* The gods of the Thousand Islands, squamous, fish-headed gods, whose likenesses rise from their stony shores, visible only when the tide recedes.
* In Slaver's Bay the Ghiscari still worship the gods of Ghis, with Graces as their priestesses.
Grr martin is a genius for coming up with all of those… my god
And then there is Boash the blind god.
I did not know there was this much wow
There are also the gods that used to be worshiped on the sisters.
@natterbot I think those were seal deities
One of the most important parts of the valyrian faith in my opinion is this
" In old valyria a thousand god's were honoured bu no one was feared"
@@pavishankar8021 Valyria was an advanced Society, maybe at the start of some kinda reinasseance of their own, they knew magic and gods were separated thing so no fear could be felt
Most of religions in the world of asoiaf: Magic, visions, body swap, krakens, deep sea lovercraftian horrors, useful charms and spells
Faith of the Seven: *We dont do that here*
I do like how their god is just six common character archetypes + death for spice.
@@CSPaffy spicy edge god for style points they were missing being the only religion without real magic
"And there are no slaves in the Seven Kingdoms."
Some Yi-tish book on the Sunset Lands.
Ye if I lives in asoiaf I'd probably be in the faith of the seven
@@CSPaffy Maiden/Mother/Crone or the Triple Goddess is a neopagan deity. She represents the cycle of life and in some Wicca beliefs her male consort is the Horned God, but in the Faith of the Seven she is matched by Warrior/Father/Smith + the Stranger (Death) to form the full life cycle of the God of Seven.
I love that every religion in Westeros has manifested itself beyond human comprehension one way or another... Except for the Faith of the Seven, the most popular one. LOL
Considering how The Nightswatch predates the Andal invasion its wild that they had to cross the Wall to visit a Gods wood
It just happens to be the closest one, since there’s none at Castle Black.
The Nightfort has one and used to be the main castle of the NW
how did youtube know i wanted this, did i verbalise this, i freaky freaky
UA-cam even knows what we think of
Same here
You forgot to mention that the faith only made the exception to the targs because Maegor the Cruel started a holy war against the faith when they tried to tell him incest was an abomination
Makes me wonder why The Old Valyrian Gods abandoned the people of Valyria and the continent as a whole. What unforgivable sin was done to invoke their wrath?
dragon riding maybe
@@AnnaBellaChannel in what context? because dragon riding was a practice for a while and gods didn't care so they must have started riding them in some other way
All their messed up blood magic. Must've gotten really bad near the end.
@@concept5631 The blood bond between dragon and rider. You need to swap blood with the dragon or you would a human dragon nugget not a dragon rider.
@@AnnaBellaChannel Nettles, a common girl, and Sheep Stealer disproves this. Non-Valyrians can ride dragons if they are careful, patient, lucky, and ballsy as hell.
I always found The Drowned God fascinating, along with The Old Gods. I guess I'm a fan of nature.
When the First Man killed Childern of the Forest, believers of Old Gods dropped. Then the White Walkers came. The First Man took religion of Old Gods as believers in agreement with the Childern, and that belief is what won against to Long Night. Now there are almost no believers of Old Gods at the start of Ice and Fire storyline and the Long Night is coming again.
you know that the white walkers came, because the children of the forest created them after loosing the fight against the first man. But they lost controle over them so they made an alliance with the first man to stop the white walkers. It had to do less with the number of believers, but rather number of living vs. dead.
@@adamryan977 alliance of Childern and First man never happened. Old Nan has the wrong facts as per G.R.R.M. All man have wrong facts of what happened. He compered it to Tower of Babel or the flood.
@@adamryan977 that's from the TV show, we still don't know much about the white walkers in the books
@@xxkanezxx6903 I doubt George R.R martin would have let them strive that far from his own story to made up their own origin story of the white walkers. On the other hand i doubt George has any idea how his books will end and will never finish his books 😞
@@adamryan977 in the books are not even called "white walkers" that´s a show invention
Honestly, when you learn more about the Drowned God, you can understand Theon and his actions a lot more.
how
@@sammaravissan9745The Drowned God is kind of a lovecraftian horror
Relating to your comment about wanting a show about Valyria, I would love to see a show about Nymeria and the Rhoynar. We would see the Rhoynar and Valyria at their height, then places like Naath, the Summer Isles and Sothoryos that are pretty minimally explored, and finally seeing pre Targaryan Westeros for the first time.
Those would be awesome to see! George recently revealed that the Ten Thousand Ships prequel revolving around Nymeria has been revived so that is very exciting!
They are making a show about her! It's in development! It's called 'Ten Thousand Ships'
Definitely look it up!
Please gods not another show for GRRM to dive headfirst and completely forget about the books even more
@@yasminadavis9986 It’s been a long while so I don’t really remember everything’s placement in the timeline, but if that’s the case I’m hoping we get anything from Sarnor.
I love how you managed to compact everything in a short video and not losing any information
Lord of Light seems like the only god that shows up
The God that actually listens to its worshipers, and even gives back life
@@hezekhoshea1961 Maybe that's just magic present in the world?
Never said that doesn’t exist but obviously there is a deity or power that exist other then magic
@@hezekhoshea1961 the proof?
There are several indications that say some of these deities are real mainly the ones they showed like Rillor and the old gods yes you can say it’s just magic ok but can you prove that no deities exist? No me personally if i lived in the world of Game of thrones and worshiped rillor and received visions from the flames and brought back the dead I’ll probably believe too
I read a comment under the Jon Snow resurrection clip here on UA-cam that tells a very interesting yet terrifying fact: when Melisandre asks Jon what he saw after he died he responds “nothing” (insert mandatory Jon Snow joke here) thats actually horrible, we know that (some) gods exist in the ASOIAF universe and they care so little about humans that there is no reward or punishment in the afterlife. All your struggles, your actions, your choiches are completelly, utterly meaningless.
😂As a Christian I am happy in the assurance of Life after death.
I am hearing a lot of good things from this honestly. Seems they can't keep meddling forever
My only gripe with this comment is the subject matter; Jon Snow. I don't see why he would've been given an afterlife when he didn't really have any God, and I just don't see the Old Gods giving him one cause he wasn't part of the Children along with any of the human followers.
Your choices aren't meaningless just ebcause there isn't an after life. Your choices impact you in this very life and the life of others, specially in GoT, where the actions of the ones we follow through the narrative are very important. I think it can be comforting knowing you won't have an eternal life, which is a lot more time than we can grasp. We should be present in the moment and choose our actions based on our values and what we want for us and the world, not because we want to have a warm spot in the after life.
Personally, I think Nothing is be best we can hope for.
Stop moving the pictures please, makes me dizzy. But keep up the great work. Thank you
Thank you very much and noted! I appreciate the advice
@@jaydonefilms I second this. The constant wobbling was an uncomfortable element of an otherwise fantastic video!
I third this. But great info/script.
I was just thinking this 🌀
Now that you all point it out...
3:33 there are very wacky elements of ALL religions (even real world ones) when you get the the fanatical side of things.
Fun fact each of the Targaryens names are riffs on their Gods names
you forgot about the religion of the summer islands!! in a conversation, tyrion mentioned very briefly a fertility goddess with sixteen teats
We should sail there immediately!
@@themulattomaker2602I wonder how many holes she has as well
The role of religion in ASoIaF is one of my favourite elements
I like how you just got straight to the point no intro. 10/10 love it
I love that the lord of light is basically Zoroastrianism
I don't like how they handled it.
I had to look that up - I clocked it as heavily Christian
@sarahrose410 Reminds me of Gnosticism. Gnostics were an early heretical sect of Christianity who believed that the physical world was created by the Demiurge (devil) who they identify as the God in the Old Testament. They believe the real God is Jesus Christ. Gnostics are considered heretics by all other Christians for obvious reasons.
Except the whole the other religions are false
Yeah, but Zoroastrianism was historically more tolerant than that. This is not to say that there was no opposition to other religions, it's that it's not as extreme as christianity, for example.
I love how the Drowned god is basically just light Norse Mythology
crazy how i didn't even notice the pictures were moving until i read the comments
Were you looking at the video?
Constant swaying images made me dizzy, I understand you want something moving on the screen but the still images is more than enough for this great content, thanks for putting this together
Hey Jaydone. Just wanted to say it’s cool what you’re doing with original content and I think you have the potential to go far. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!!
I really like the Old Gods of Westeros ; it is a quiet religion, which does not demand crazy things from the believers, it is close to nature, it is not about fanaticism or apocalyptic messages or '' us versus them'' - instead, it sort of preaches the unity of all beings that live in the same world; everything is part of a broader whole. Plus, no elaborate rites or prayers there.
I have to say, I am not into religion as a concept in general. Perhaps that' s why I would prefer something more realistic and simple over beliefs that remind me of the world that we currently live in.
Look into "Jojen paste". The religion isn't as innocent as you think it is
Same. It seems so peaceful..
Thats just paganism/wicca
Does it preach unity? I think it just preaches to respect the gods, which live in everything. You don't want to make enemies of EVERYTHING, do you?
@@SwordTune I think youve misinterpreted it then
Man, these religions are so much cooler than the one we have in real life.
i completely agree
Theyre heavily inspired by ones that already exist though!
@@KMFDM242 Yeah, and these are way more interesting. Lol, it doesn't make me change my opinion.
It's just polytheism and monotheism but different names. I don't think there was much originality in that.
Just make new ones
Good material! I personally don't mind the moving images, but it's probably a good idea to find something else to keep it dynamic. Good job, enjoyed the knowledge.
Thank you very much!!
Great video, never heard of some of these and look forward to more breakdown!
Lord of Light has a LOT of parallels to Manichaeism, except Manichaeans were not supposed to take the initiative into their own hands and fight for whatever prophetic visions their Religion had: Doing so is actually a trick cast by the Prince of Darkness meant to keep your inner light within his Realm. You have to pretty much embrace pacifism akin to Jains in order to finally release your Light.
And that's why Manichaeism went extinct so soon and so long ago.
Also look into the Shakers, a Christian sect that was popular in the US. They required celibacy of adherents. They slowly went essentially extinct.
Great video bro! You deserve all the views you’re getting. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!!
Three levels of religion impudence:
• There are other gods, we just choose to worship ours
• There are no other gods, only ours is true
• You all worship our God, you just don't realize it
Great video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Here are all of the Religions that I could think of that Jaydone did not include, there might be more that i dont know about in places like yi ti or ashi
Three Daughters
Trios
Weeping Lady
Princley Arbiter
Lady of the Waves
Cold Gods
Mother Rhoyne
House of the Undying
Ghisgari Pagan
Bronze Gods (Dead Religion)
Faith of the Eight (Dead Religion)
Darkwaterrite (Dead Religion)
Storm God (Dead Religion)
Bearded God (Dead Religion)
Thank you for going straight into the video!
I hoped that Lord of Light and Greatest Other get more weight in the plot as their presence is the most felt in the plot. There are working magic by red priests and clearly dead guys from behind the wall connected to greatest other, so this seems like most realistic religion in the story (also many faced guy, he looks pretty effective).
Also yeah, there are many connections between these beliefs. Hope to see more in the future
I think the Dothraki religion says the earth will come to an end when the grass is all white which sounds like if the dark night came to pass and the ground would be covered in snow by white walkers
That's honestly a way better answer than the real one, lmao. Jorah says in the first book that it's Ghost Grass, a kind of grass that basically poisons the soil for other plants and allows nothing else to grow
@@LoneCreeperHunter aww thank you so even if I got it wrong that’s a really nice compliment 😘
You failed to mention the sacrifices made in front of the Weirwood trees to the old gods. This is seen in the books when Bran feels the tree roots drink the blood of the victim. You also failed to mention Azor Ahai in the Lord of Light segment. He was a champion of the Lord of Light previously. Again, you leave out the fact that the Many-Faced God is the deity of the poor, down and down-trodden. They seek the Many-Faced God at the House of Black and White not only for peace but also justice.
Isn’t Azor Ahai the same thing as the Prince that was promised? He mentions fhaf
@@missym877 referring to the title isn't enough when breaking down the religion. This whole video was very lackluster. As someone who is a bit fan of this series, it's upsetting to see this kind of omission.
@@alexjenkins4066do one yourself. Such entitled fans.
@@RockChick63174 I've actually been considering it since this is the quality being put out there. Also we are not entitled being fans...we are passionate about the source material. If you can't handle it, make a video explaining just that :)
@@alexjenkins4066its just books and stories haha chill
The Drowned God is very like Norse Mythology just without the pantheon
It's actually a misconception that the Andals conquered the entirety of Westeros. They only conquered the Vale and the Riverlands. The Reach, Stormlands, Dorne and the Stormlands were never conquered by the Andals and were continued to be ruled by First Men Kings, until the Rhoynar arrived and took Dorne. The Riverlands were also subsequently conquered by the Durrandon kings which was a First Men house followed by being conquered by the Iron Islands. They did integrate into society in those kingdoms as well and create their own houses but it was more so Andal warlords taking certain regions before subsequently swearing fealty to the First Men kings and intermarrying with them. Most Westerosi are probably of First Men originally with the Vale having the highest concentration of Andal Ancestry. Even with that considered most major houses in Westeros are of First Men origin who subsequently intermarried with the Andals and converted to the Faith of the Seven. Even the Riverlands has mostly First Men houses and the Vale does have a good number of them though I am not sure if it is the majority or not. What sets the North apart is that absolutely no Andal house made it North of the neck and the First Men culture is more intact.
Great video as always.
I feel the the Ghiscari gods/religion deserve a shout out. The show didn't really dive into it but i feel like the Harpy's and all the people giving Dany shit in Mereen were all following that religion
Which propehcy is more powerful? The prince that was promised or the stallion who mounts the world?
The jiggling of the images make me nauseous, but the content is good
I will make sure not to do that in the future but thank you!
The drown gods are most likely just a religious interpatation of the deep ones/squishers in ASOIAF
I just have to say, I like the information and the delivery but I had to stop watching two minutes in because the shaking images and text were unbearable. I hope you make a new version with static images, because I'd still love to watch this video.
I have to say I like the many faced god be I think if there is a god then most religions are just different take on that god or that group of gods.
I just finished the video and I didn’t realized this was just 19 hours ago
It feels like those videos that are like 2 years ago
While in the show the drowning and thereafter "resurrecting" (CPR) of the victim is used as a ceremony to crown a king, in the book it is far more widespread and a common practice for those devout to the drowned god.
The pics moving while talking about the drowned god made kinda sense
i think they should make a movie about the fall of valyria and some events leading up to its destruction as well as the obliteration of valyria
This is very well done. I learned a lot!
Thank you! I’m glad to hear it
Man you might want to second guess adding paralaxing, or whatever effect is the slight shaking of the photos. Most things never bother me but hat gave me crazy motion sickness
The images shaking/wobbling is quite unpleasant. But thanks for the info. Cheers
Asoiaf god tier list. On how legit they are and which is most beneficial to follow
I like how most of these have some vague resemblance to real world religions without being exact copies...but than the Lord of Light religion is literally just Zoroastrianism.😂
What's that?
@@alenasanmiguel9509 the religion of persia/iran before Islam
@@fragbomb oh, thank you!
And to what religion do the naked crowned women with winga statues in slavers bay belong? We see these everywhere in the show in the 3 main cities there.
Really great video and really well explained!
I know others have mentioned, but keep the pictures still lmao
If you want em to move to keep it dynamic or interesting, id suggest just a simple pan or zoom on a full screen image
It's because of monetization. Still images can't be monetized.
Would love a show about the andal invasion.
They should do a show about the religions that would be dope
do we have much info about the magnar of the thenn? i feel like hes a thing of his own but maybe hes just an extention of the old gods?
It's kind of funny how obviously Zoroastrian the Lord of Light religion is. Zoroastrians believe that there will be three future saviors or Saoshyants who will destroy all the evil in the world, which lines up with the whole dragon has three heads thing.
9:45 is this really part of the religion or more a part of the Ironborn culture ?
Cool vid but the moving pics are very very distracting.
lol what, haven’t evolved from picture books? Just listen
@@gorlab9549 Too dizzy to listen 🤸
It must be a nightmare to navigate UA-cam for you.
I heavily prefer this style of video editing, and hope it continues. It's easy information to listen too and the visuals just make everything more memorable.
you should explain more about GOTG or HOTD universe bro
I definitely will! I love this universe so much
Great video over all but you forgot one religion which is the Sistermen in the Kingdom of the Vale
Thank you! I might make another discussing even more religions!
@@jaydonefilms If you do talk about the Maiden-Made-of-Light! Its a major religion in Essos, specifically Yi-Ti and you can definetely introduce the cool lore about how it relates to Chinese Philosophy and also you can bring up how it talks about the Long Night. Overall I think although the show never shows these religions I definetely think you should talk about them as they are still very interesting.
I love how this vid just starts in an instant transition from the thumbnail
Very informative video bro!
Thank you!
Religion is one of the things Game of Thrones does best! I can think of no other franchise that has so many different well-thought out fictional religions. Maybe Dungeons & Dragons and Warcraft also have interesting and diverse religions, but still, GoT does it best and is one of the ways it is actually better than Lord of the Rings.
I totally agree! The world building is one of a kind
@@jaydonefilms Yeah, the worldbuilding is the best part of the show and books to me!
Great Video. Puked onto my Keyboard. 7/10
really well done vid 🤘🏼
I appreciate it!
HELL YEAAAA!!! HE’S BACK AT IT! Jaydone you’re destined for great things. Woohoooo!!!
"The amount of followers of the old gods..."
Stannis: "The number".
I miss the religion of one temple: I miss the IRON BANK! 🏦
It has be suggested that the religion of the iron isles is a warped version of the original religion of the first men when they arrived to westeros
When i was watching the show i thought that the lord of light was just a extreme version of the god of the seven
"Maybe it *is* the Seven. Or maybe it's the Old Gods. Or maybe it's the Loooord of Light. Or maybe they're all the same fookin' thing!"
The images slightly moving is arousing to me, keep up the good work.
I stopped doing the moving pictures in my recent videos after all of the complaints but I was considering bringing it back again until I read this comment. I without a doubt am never bringing it back now.
Same I really hope we get a valeria story like of the fall or the first dragon rider
What about Salladhor the Pirate's religion? It's popular in our world too.
Wonderful, informative video-but the moving rectangles made me want to puke LOL
NGL it would be cool if we got actually like a mythology about those Westeros gods and present maybe them as annunnaki or something like this. It would be a cool thing.
What was with Bran and the TEC being shown during The Lord of Light bit?
really great video! :)
this was a really well put together video! i do have a question though, and it was driving me a little insane: why are all the pictures kinda bouncy?
It isn’t expanded on a book because it’s so secretive but you didn’t mention the bearded priest of norvos
The faceless man one kinda makes sense, but it's also demonic.
I just want to see the start of the others and the first war agaist them or the andal invasion which ...is also in the time flux of when the sheep famer valaryians start playing with blood magic and making dragons for the first time
The Drowned god goes hard tho
I like to think of these gods as players in a game of civilization. Each god speaks to their players through various means but they are all competing with each other through the people within the world.
Also, besides incest, the followers of the Old Gods of Valyria sometimes practiced polygamy, compared to the Westeros where marriage is strictly between two people. Some form of polygamy was practiced on the Iron Islands and by the Dothraki too.
great vid. i love the old gods
One of the things I actually love about GoT is how they kinda swap paganism and monotheism. How Paganism is the norm and most widespread while monotheism is seen as the demonic one and seen as "witchcraft" very interesting seeing a world where these ideas are swapped
Editing note: I find the little motion effect you've used for still images to be very distracting. If you really want to achieve a similar effect of motion, it might be better to have a pan or zoom within the image frame while keeping the frame itself from moving. It's less disorienting and more subtle.
You forget to add that one main rule of the old gods religion is honor