*TYRION:* You should consider yourself lucky. At least your balls won’t freeze off. *VARYS:* You take great offense at dwarf jokes, but love telling eunuch jokes. Why is that? *TYRION:* Because I have balls, and you don't.
@@justjeff600 note also that he basically picked a random book in the citadell's library, opened it at a random page, and found this decisive information.
After seeing this video, I’m so glad Tywin was killed before the writing quality got down; imagine him in Season 8 talking to Tyrion: “I’m tall and you are a dwarf lmao”
@@MrBrownvp1 ye like 2 in the whole series, and they were actually funny and well placed within their respective episodes which made them seem organic and fitting to the scenes and characters who said them. They didn't diminish the quality of the acting or the scenes themselves; they usually added a bit of much needed comic relief within very stressful and tense situations. Whereas in season 8, it's literally the opening scene and its a bad joke with bad atmosphere which completely ruins the scene itself, sets up season 8 on a bad note, and overall is a micro chasm of the overall problem with the last 2 seasons.
For #22: If Gendry could row all the way from Dragonstone to King’s Landing-a roughly 350 mile distance-in treacherous waters, in a rowboat with two oars, despite never rowing a boat in his life and not knowing how to swim, then Gendry Baratheon can run all the way to the Wall in thick ass snow. Gendry is clearly the most physically fit man in Westeros.
I personally dont think them hiding in the crypt was the issue, it was the fact that the dead were able to break out of stone tombs when previously shown they can be kept in wooden crates
They didn't even showed us whether the corpses of the other Starks were also revived by the Night King's presence. I'm leaning towards some kind of magical barrier that prevents the buried corpses to be re-animated.
They can raise the dead. Correction we had only seen them raise those recently killed. We have never seen a graveyard brought back to life. Having a debate on the limits of this ability could be interesting. Jon debating with a more skeptical Tyrion. If the Knight King can just raise corpses after decades of decaying why did he need to have an army to attack with? Why not just get close, raise the dead, if they fail then repeat before the bodies can be burned.
🤯Helloo!!! Weapons and tools! Ever used any? The wight in the crate was a chained prisoner with nothing while the wights that went for the crypt were free; you can easily argue they had weapons and tools. 💥
It's not just Tyrion suggesting Bran to be the king, but the fact that everyone was like "Oh yeah, the jailed dwarf we were about to execute is right."
I KNOW! He is on trial for TREASON, for one freeing a prisoner and then coercing Jon to kill Daenerys. Also although I haven’t watched the whole series yet I believe everyone or at least some of them believe that Tyrion killed Joffrey.
Exactly! Tyrion is disgraced by the end of the show, he has no credibility or influence over anyone of those gathered there. Yet everybody just forgets that. Also what the fuck kinda name is 'Bran the Broken' and who is calling their new king that to their face??
Not to mention most people in the scene didn't even know him but were still cool with it just because...well, it was the last episode, so no time to argue I guess...
I always come back every few years, watch character compilations, fan fic theories and alternative plots (which are usually better than the show) or channels like this making fun of it 😂 and that's my rewatching
That's why I only reread the books nowadays. The book plot just ends in a massive cliff hanger that's never going to be resolved. But the reread value is much bigger than with the disastrous show ending
#12 Makes me the most angry because Jaime was the only member of the king's guard to break oath to protect the people. Even someone as highly regarded as Barristen Selmy wasn't going to break oath. For Jaime to say that he never cared about the people was just absolutely ridiculous.
And throughout the show, I really never saw any love/romance between Jamie and Cersei. There was no chemistry, so when he leaves Briane to go back to Kings Landing it really didn't click. They were more like f**k buddies than lovers.
@Major Mail I've seen some people defend that scene saying Jon is a Targareyen so he's immune to fire while in the books nobody is immune to fire not even Daenerys, they did that in the show just for spectacle. Like literally we have Tragedy Of Summerhall where Rhaegar Targareyen was born while his cousins, uncles and other family members died in a fire
@@Darkstar_Dayne Yeah you'd think Jon "the name less bastard child," would have noticed if he couldn't get burned at some point in his life and wondered why...
Originally, I didn't like how in Season 8, episode 3, there was a wight that was in almost every shot, and all it was doing was drinking beer and wearing only boxers. I later figured out that was actually my reflection in the pitch blackness of my TV.
@@Slender_Man_186 Its always easier to kill someone off when you don't have a plot progression for the character. Thats why I knew he was dead. At that point Arya, Jon, Sansa & Bran drove the Stark story line. Bringing him back to be anything relevant would've been too complicated for Dumb and Dumber
Honorable mention for Jon hiding behind a small lip of rock when the undead dragon breathed fire at him, and still survives. When Dany is on Drogon torching king's landing and exploding building on a pass by... and a concentrated breath from the undead dragon at Jon who isn't moving, is just hiding behind the small lip, the lip becomes impervious, and shields Jon not only from the blast that may explode buildings, but from the heat that would ultimately melt anything in the vicinity.
I mean Jon is a Targaryen no? Or is Dany the only one immune to fire? I'm not defending it since he still is wearing his clothes afterwards so you're still right but even if the flames would have hit him I don't think he'd have died unless I'm just mistaken on why Dany can survive fire.
The same dragon that took down The Wall which is not only stucturally sound but also protected against magical beings. We also saw harrenhal absolutely in ruins in some season with someone saying something like "That is what happens when dragonfire meets stone" or something to that effect. And now this dragon cannot destroy a tiny bit of wall while his kin will go on to melt all the houses in kings landing like butter. Just lazy writing.
I personally love how Arya had the ability to change her face and besides using it for the Frey’s, never uses it again... So yeah, waste of skills learned by the faceless men😐
For some reason she waited until the battle hast started to try to kill Cersei. Like she could have prevented the battle/slaughter if she went to Cersei earlier. There is no explaination why she would be there so late.
Or you know, how she spent 3 seasons trying to get to Essos to learn from the Faceless Men and then have her leave 2 episodes after she's started training, yknow
One thing that always bugged me about the scene where Jamie charged Daenerys and Drogon was how deep the water was when he was pushed in by Bronn. They were right at the water's edge only about a foot deep, yet when he gets pushed in the water he's suddenly sinking into the Mariana Trench. Either there's a cliff 4 feet from the water's edge or Bronn super pushed him a mile from the coast.
I guess you haven't experienced much of water places. E.g. when you enter Adriatic See it is just few meters and you have 15 meters depth. Not every water spot is ocean like. It is possible.
I also like how Bronn wouldn’t risk his life for Tyrion his actual friend when he was in need of a champion but here Bronn gladly lays his life down for Jamie. He really faced a whole dragon for him.
that's actually quite possible, I swim a lot, and sometimes you might be walking into the sea (any other body of water) thinking you are in the shallows, knee deep, when suddenly you trip and fall into deeper waters, which always gets a good laugh
Danny forgetting about the iron fleet was definitely one of the worst for me like she is hundreds of feet up in the air which means she can see much further than the fleet can so she should spot them long before they would be able to fire on her
Also the fact that they hit Rheagal with two arrows, and after that no one could hit Drogon, neither when she attacked Kings landing where they obviously had alot of those big bows
The fact that he somehow still uses a sword in many battles, when even earlier seasons it was a big deal that he basically lost his mojo is almost as stupid imo.
Not really, he died unnecessarily just to kill his brother, who would have died anyway, making his whole redemption arc about forgiveness and not caring for vengeance pointless
@@ericgonzalez2946 when did he even get a slight notion about forgiveness? His arch was about learning to love again and value life. He never stopped wanting to kill the mountain.
“Who shall we choose as king to rule us fairly and create a new dynasty?” The answer: Bran, the handicapped boy who can’t have children and who doesn’t even care about anyone on a human and humane level.
Isaac Hempton-Wright even stated that he doesn't like the idea of his character being king, because all it does is create an Orwellian surveillance state for Westeros. Which is very worrying about the author if he thinks this is the best form of governance.
@@ladygrey7425 you can't assume the author (which author btw? books, series?) thinks that this is the best form of governance. It is what the characters supposedly think is the best form of governance according to their historical environment.
Myranda dying by being pushed off a platform at Winterfell shortly followed by Theon and Sansa jumping off the wall of Winterfell from a higher point and surviving.
@@todeswalzer1184I figured this was the only possible explanation but like they didn’t even drop something heavy over the wall to check first? They just knew the snow would be deep enough to safely cushion them from a HUGE fall
@@particlekoimedia5040 They had no other choice so I dont blame them. I would jump from a 10 story house roof in their situation knowing my chances are slim at best, none at worst.
To me, number 1 is when Tyrion made Bran king It’s like Tywin knew this was going to happen and wanted to drown him, but couldn’t because he was a Lannister
Although I agree with most of the rankings, I would definitely put the #8 in the top 3. The army of the dead looked so scary during the battle of Hardhorn where they litteraly decimate wildlings (who are known to be fierce fighters, like Thenns) or when they killed "all the Dothraki" which are also recognized as talented fighters (Robert Baratheon, Ser Jorah hinting it multiple times). In the battle of winterfell, Samuel fking Tarly managed to survive along with Jaimie I cAn'T wIpE mY oWn aSs.
To add to your point of the dothraki charging the army of the dead. You said maybe because they got excited about the flaming swords. The things is, is that Melisandre used her magic to do it and they were like "awesome!" But in season one the dothraki almost killed Danny for letting the witch use her magic on Drogo and to my understanding the dothraki have always hated magic and witches. Thanks Dan and Dave
@@joffreybaratheon4904 that’s their tactic for open fields and attacking a group this was a entirely defensive situation where in for each man and animal to go down supplies their enemies so you have to trade every 1 man for like 30 white walkers. Nothing done in the beginning made any sense all siege equipment should have been behind the walls because they could fire over. All troops should have been within or on the walls leaving less angles of attack. The Dothraki were shown to be competent hand to hand combatants and even they would understand how stupid it would be to Calvary charge the countless masses of undead. That entire fight was written by people who had their brains slurped out by the brain bug from Starship Troopers.
It'll never stop being funny how it was clearly stated in the first episode that it can take WEEKS to move around Westeros, and then eventually it just turns into the size of Ireland and you can get anywhere within a day or so.
@@melissam597 You're right. That reminds me of when King's Landing used to have hills and mountains before Cersei had them all bulldozed to look like Pride Rock post-Scar.
Seriously! Arya and the Hound leave Winterfell and arrive at King's Landing an episode later. Those two spent 2 seasons fuckarsing about in the Vale and Riverlands trying to get from point A to point B
When I saw Danny going crazy, I thoughts she’s going directly to Cersei’s keep and frying her alive along with the Mountain. Instead she kills everyone EXCEPT her!
Yep, I'd have totally understood her going crazy and destroying the keep but she has spent 6 seasons going on about how she is a queen of the people, then suddenly she doesnt care about the people when ses after a bit of revenge?
@@mothermramaila8133 even if you think about it from that perspective it still doesn’t make sense. They didn’t make up any reason for her to hate the common people
Im heavily disapointed from HBO that they didnt stop Dumb and Dumber from ruining this season, and not even fixing this mess. They let them buttfuck the most popular show on the world. You shouldnt just hate Dumb and Dumber, you should hate HBO too for failure to fix or stop this shit.
Addition to point 8: It is also just incredibly stupid that you have this faction of necromancers built up for eight seasons, raising their enemies as undead servants, and you don't have this happen to a SINGLE main character. Imagine Sam, Dany, Jon, Arya or Jaime being resurrected and facing their former friends and family in combat, how impactful this would be. In season 3, we heard Osha tell that she had to fight her own husband as a wight, and this was impactful even when just told as a story. Talk about missed opportunities.
Imagine Ned coming back from within the Winterfell crypt. Then again, D&D would probably just use this for a bad joke: "Let's make an obvious reference to the fact that Sean Bean's character was killed off TWICE in our show! That'll make the viewers cream their pants as much as all the cock jokes did!"
D&D basically had no idea what they were doing. They were so obsessed with 'surprising' the audience they forgot to make it make sense. I mean if they wanted to surprise people, why didn't they have Hot Pie swoop down on a flying pig and kill the Night King before being made Master of the Kitchen?
Tyrion discovers he's the lost son of the Dwarf King, and after finding their secret kingdom of old, he manages to activate the army of Stone Golems that were dormant for milenia, and use them to help Daenerys :v
The fact that the Night king didn't throw his spear at Drogon who is sitting right in front of him ready to take off with all his main enemies is my #1
I always viewed that as the Night King being (understandably, given his powers) arrogant. “I dont need to kill you directly. I could have. I chose not to.”
Agreed, I can just picture that bullshit camera pan from the Night King clearly about to cold logic his way into victory by killing the Dragon 100 feet in front of him ON THE GROUND, but then shifts his gaze to a dragon flying through the air hundreds of feet off the ground
Makes it even more stupid when you think how easily it could have been made way less stupid. All they had to do was make Viserion charge at the Night King and co, that would be a pretty logical reason for his attention to be redirected, to a dragon that is coming right at his group. Yes, we later learn NK is immune to dragon fire but what about the rest of the white walkers? It's plausible for him to want to protect his generals, plus it just makes sense to attack something that is about to attack you even if they wouldn't kill you. I doubt NK would just whistle and ignore a dragon blowing fire up his ass. Nah, he'd smack dat bitch out of the sky, then focus on the other one.
That plot all made sense to me, unless I misunderstood something. I thought grayscale had to be direct skin contact with the disease-so in Jorah’s case his arm-not just any part of the person or object carrying the disease. Like with Shireen, the grayscale part of the doll touched her face, but the parts of it she touched with her hands to hold it to her face must not have had grayscale on it since her hands were clear. Jorah kept his arm covered with his sleeve until he was at the citadel, and then Sam removed the infected skin, keeping his own hands and arms covered while he did so.
@@JNDReacts thank you, this actually cleared up a lot. I was just under the impression they had to be in contact with the person, not the affected area. Makes sense
@@KadeensWrld lmao tell me your pride is hurt without telling me your pride is hurt. you assumed the writing was bad because you didn’t understand something obvious. And if you think writing words on the internet is power you’re dull.
Tyrian was clever and witty for the first part of the show. After getting broke out of jail and sailed across the sea, he turned into a moron who couldn't do anything right. That really bugged me.
Which could have been interesting. A story of Tyrion running away from himself could been a nice little arc as he slowly rediscovers his confidence or something, but no, it was just bizarre writing.
@Melissa Faye There are certain fundamentals of story telling that the GOT writers just completely ignored. And community college writing class or student could do a better job.
@@jivet3919I doubt that. If great story telling were that easy, George would've finished his novel by now. As a writer myself, I can attest that it takes a time and a lot of creative juice to make a good story. I don't think D&D did a bad story telling job, I think they just told a pre mature story that wasn't fully developed yet.
@@jivet3919 exactly. Varys may have betrayed ppl when it all went down but the show had him practically yelling his treason to anyone who would listen. Varys wasn't stupid. I think the actor was more annoyed at how stupid they made the character 🙄 and I felt soooo bad. It went against his entire character to be so openly careless. It was not believable. Then again none of the endings made sense! I would need an hour to go over alllllll the character inconsistencies in the last episode!
I still cannot get over SAMWELL TARLY SURVIVING, of all the great characters, of all the strong characters that can actually wield a sword and defend themselves. Samwell Tarly lives.
@Wynterking94I stopped expecting him to die after he somehow got out of near death experiences with 0 harm done. Every single battle he’s been in, he’s been miraculously saved by a skilled person beside him or with some object that happens to be perfect for the situation
3:35 you don't understand Gendry was rowing that boat for seasons, resting his legs long enough so he could make that one all significant very long distance run.
Honorable mention: The Dothrakis charge the undead. Only a few stragglers return. Yet at the siege of King's Landing, the entire Dothraki army is intact.
Jon was the rightful king, but what good is the rightful king if he doesn't want to be king? Jon wanted to be free, to be with the wildlings so why force him to be king if his heart wasn't in it? This said, I don't believe Bran should've been King. I don't know who should've been king, but to me neither Bran or Jon were the right people to take the throne.
This list reminded me about how the Night King literally had no plan for how they were going to cross the wall when they got to it. If he didn't get the dragon, there was never an established alternative plan for them to destroy the wall.
I've always thought that the ice powers of the Night King and the Others, along with the abnormally long and cold winter, would've frozen the Bay of Seals, which would've let them bypass the wall entirely.
Totally understandable but still would’ve been a very hard task to come into a show and just finish something someone else started I mean it would’ve been hard to be worse then what we got in the back half of season 7 and all of season 8 but still I think it’s a lot harder to find someone who could’ve came in and made that much of a difference
@kidgforce1 George's fault. He wrote an unfinished knot of perverted nihilism, never finished it and sold the rights for silver. Can't blame a dog for licking his balls
When Benjen was brought back into the show, he could have just came back, but for whatever reason they decided to both kill him and revive him in a single sentence. Just why? They could have at least shown it happen instead of just saying it happened. Remember, nobody had confirmed his death, so he could have just been lost for all we knew. That and the fact that him being undead adds absolutely nothing to the plot. Character revivals are very risky in stories, because if they are done wrong then it can remove all tension from character deaths, so they should only be done if it actually adds something. Yeah, I think they just forgot how to logic.
nah man, he had to distract them so they didn't just continue going the only direction that makes sense for them, towards the wall. It totally worked and saved a lot of characters at the wall that didn't have time to evacuate. Oh wait, it didnt... they just survived the wall being torn down off screen... love Tormund's plot armor to do nothing :))))
@@jcruise333 Jon's lineage being mentioned is not the same as it being addressed and developed. Who are Jons real parents has been THE question since the beginning and the way they handled the actual reveal to Jon, Arya and Sansa was just lazy, suddenly this big thing that they've been building up to means nothing, it barely affects the plot and the characters aren't given any time on screen to show how it affects them, Jon constantly saying I don't want it does not count You could have taken out the big reveal and it wouldn't have changed a thing, they could have done that to a lot of things in Season 8 and it wouldn't have changed a thing
Once they decided they were not going to roll with the prince that was promised plotline I think Jon’s lineage became sort of irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things). It was a retarded move tho, as the whole series is named after that prophecy (A song of ice and fire).
Ok, in the shows logic as it is (which leaves much to be desired as this video shows) Jon knowing his herritage, making him turn from being any more romanticly with Daeneries, is what drives her over the edge -- suggesting she really is mad and like her father being paranoid -- which in turn makes her thinking "breaking the wheel" is to raise all of Kings Landing to the ground Cersei style. Hence everyone she doesn't trust should be dead in kind of remiscent of her father "burn them all" cry before Jaime killed him. Surprisingly she suddenly has trust for Jon, the man that broke her heart, because she like anyone always goes back to an ex at the chance of getting back together - which is human but hardly significant of Daenaries head strong character. Its all a bit much, but following its own logic of making characters getting dumber than before to fit the sensational drama the script writers thought Game of thrones was all about and who the characters were at heart.
Dany not torching literally every enemy without having to waste 1 soldier is what got me. Yeah, so she can’t kill the Knight King but you can kill his forces. Every time the seasons were activated, they were unstoppable. But now you’re gonna sacrifice almost all of your infantry instead.
I personally think it's dumb as fuck that the Night King, played by a professional stuntman and sword fight choreographer, didn't get a badass fight scene with his brand new sword prop we see on his back the entire fucking episode. Such a missed opportunity to show off Furdik's skill.
the night king should really not have been a character anyway. reduces the whole looming threat with compelling real world parallells, global warming, uncertainty for future etc, to just some blue evil dude. removes mystique, sense of foreboding, and the sense of it being this unstoppable (un)natural force, just to have a face to put on posters or whatever.
like the Dothraki taking revenge against jon for killing dany is literally PART OF THEIR CULTURE.....IT LITERALLY STATES THAT WHEN A KHAL DIES HIS BLOOD RIDERS AVENGE HIS DEATH AND THEN JOIN HIM IN THE NIGHTLANDS
@@maadtee6281 nah bro she got blood riders after Drogo died. A group of Dothraki left but she had Rakharo, Aggo, Jhogo and then once she burned down the khals in Vaes Dothrak she became khalessi to all the Dothraki and made all Dothraki her blood riders
@@dhamiprlove17 nah they forgot that they were Danny blood rider's plus I'm pretty sure they were killed. And the dothraki should have destroyed westerose
I think for me the Night King’s death was the most insulting and stupid moment. Such a compelling and mysterious villain with so much build-up, finally enacting his plans with full force, only to get 360 noscoped in an instant by someone he’d otherwise obliterate instantly. So many interesting questions with so much potential story were erased by some nonsensical ninja bullshit. I felt physical pain watching that. That isn’t an exaggeration.
I wanted to see the night king destroy everything in his path and eventually take the iron throne himself where everyone is dead in his army, in the end all their petty squabbles about power meant nothing when faced with the one true power, death. That episode when they face off at winter fell I was thinking their fucked , there’s no way they survive this. But I knew in my mind some plot armour bullshit was gunna happen such as a little girl flying through the air unheard and then one shifting the night king. Why the fuck did the night king even land ? Why not let his army and generals do all the work seeing as he’s the weak link . He dies they all fall so he should just hide in the north somewhere or at the very least stay on his dragon ?!! So many stupid decisions in the end even though the show started strong.
A strong villian should take on the best duelists in a 3 v 1,remember how(Book only) Voldemort duels Mcgonagall,Flitwick and Slughorn at once and held his own very well?
Hard disagree. Including the Night King to begin with was a bad decision. One of the worst really George Martin wanted to stray away from the concept of a "dark lord" one who's defeat would instantly fix everything It's fitting that once he's no longer involved with the show, we get this massive cliche cause D&D didn't know what they were doing. There's no Night King in the books for a very good reason. There's a Night's King in legend but he's very different in concept. If D&D wanted a dark lord, Euron would've been perfect but instead we got a massive finger in the bum
The 2 moments when I could tell the show was beginning it's downfall were LF giving Sansa to Ramsey and the Battle of the Bastards. There is no way LF wouldn't have known what would happen to Sansa and how that would permanently damage his reputation. Sansa's treatment almost feels just for shock value to try and convince the audience it's still a dark and gritty show (despite constant jokes the entire time)
Sansa becoming like Cersei in her "Fuck everyone who isn't me, I want mine" attitude and looking angry and bored all the time, when she was supposed to become the exact opposite.
@@theworkingcreatorIts not about being bright and sunny. Its about appreciating friendship and compassion and not treating everyone beneath you like shit.
The real question is "why Gendry"? He's the fastest? Says who? What does that even matter? Does he know the area or terrain? Wouldn't Tormund be a better choice since he lives there? Is the concept of scouts alien to these people? Why, exactly, would you bring a blacksmith on the mission to begin with. He has no training in any aspect of the military or survival.
Someone argued that Jon told Gendry "he's the fastest" just to convince him. In reality, he is the youngest, so the one with most stamima out of all of them. It's not amatter of running fast, it's a matter of how long can you run before you collapse of exaustion.
Davos 'you can't come, you're not a soldier' Gendry 'No, but I'm a fighter' Let's drop Floyd Mayweather in the Middle East, he can surely deal with ISIS
The stupid thing about hiding people in the crypts is how suddenly the undead gain superhuman strength and can easily punch through solid slabs of rock as if they were made out of paper..
@@ImaginaShip This could be an explanation, but it was never mentioned in the show. Plus, thus super-strong wights that can break through stone walls then somehow failed to kill any named character in the crypts, even though the people there were sent there because they can't fight.
@@ImaginaShip Nah, when Jon Snow attacked Night King, then Night King resurrected the dead and they were literally standing by Night King and still hundred or so wights couldn't kill Jon Snow. Being closer to Night King didn't give them any extra strength.
So I'm going to be that person and talk about book vs show here. In the books it is very clear that the wights can't survive in the south due to rotting. Ser Alliser is sent to King's Landing with a still moving, served hand and by the time he gets there it has rotten to the bone and can not move anymore. So these wights need to still have tissue, they are ressurected by magic but not held together with it, there needs to be tissue like muscles so that they can still move. That is why North of the Wall, where it's too cold for a body to rot they can have an army and why Winter coming is so dangerous: if it's this cold in Westeros they can survive south of tha Wall too. On top of that those are just ressurected bodys, they are strong in numbers not magically stronger than they were alive. And of couse there is the fact that in the books most of the bodys are skeletons or dust by now. Meaning there would not be anything to ressurect in the first place. So you could definitly put the people in the crypts in Winterfell savely because it would be impossible for 1. the dead to be ressurected because there isn't enough left of them 2. even if they could get ressurected they definitly could not punch though massive stone. And even if you say in the show that skeletons can get ressurected and have magic superhuman strenght that doesn't explain the number of wights in the crypts because the bodys down there are so long gone they have turned to dust by now. So at best you'd get like Wight Lyanna, but something tells me that Torren Stark shouldn't be able to walk the earth anymore.
They said it themselves in that one clip - they simply wanted to feel that they outsmarted the fandom by having it be “unpredictable”. They ruined the show just so they could say “see nobody saw that coming!” 🤦🏻♀️ The show itself is the saddest death of all.
Another stupid moment is when Bran says there is missing a master of whispers...like..he can see and hear everything in any time, but he needs a master of whispers?
I feel like this is a point that gets harped on too much. If imagine worging is stressful. Bran would have to do everything all the time. Rather than just farm it out to other people where he can followup on information he seems necessary. A doctor can in theory run a clinic all by themselves but it makes more sense to hire nurses and other support staff.
@@harish123az yeah exactly, just maybe that it’s difficult to learn but bran did it with the three eyed raven for such long periods of times and the three eyed ravens whole life was doing such work
Can we all just pretend that the true finale was the end of S6 when Dany & co. were seen sailing to Dragonstone? S7 & S8 were a fever dream, and all 3 dragons are still alive.
I only take the show as one version/timeline. Which is not a stretch considering there's the books. Then watch fan ideas which are amazing and make my own cannon
Yep, for me that's the true ending... It's better to believe the series was cancelled afterwards (besides, it's a huge disappointment, because, after how bad things were in season 5, season 6 re balanced everything and set the stakes higher than ever to make things epic and so long awaited things would finally happen), even tho season 5 & 6 have some silly moments they were still decent, season 7 was plain bad and season 8 just plain terrible.
Should have been in the list. Cercei wiping out entire Tyrel family, along with other members of the aristocracy, innocent civilians, Pope and religious landmark of the Kingdom but not getting any consequences for her action at all.
There were consequences. Highgarden, Dorne, North all declared war on the lannisters and also dany was coming. There were no consequences in King's Landing, because after they were all dead, Cersei had the most power in King's Landing, and also claimed the throne
@@assadarlingtoni The Tyrell's and Dorne get beaten in a single episode and the North would have resisted southern rule regardless of whether Cersei or Tommen were on the throne.
@@assadarlingtoni Dorne did absolutely nothing; never even showed up until after the sacking of King's Landing and Cersei was already dead. Tyrells got demolished instantly which is contrived and stupid in my opinion because they were the second richest house in Westeros and had a great army. They got tore up badly at Highgarden by the Lannister's very quickly (like 1 episode) and it was over. What fucking happened to the realism in this show? season 1, it took them a whole month to get to King's Landing from Winterfell and it actually showed them travelling. Took up like 2 or 3 episodes actually of them just travelling down there. Now everyone has fast travel and can get anywhere within half an episode, with no indication of how much time has passed. Tyrells should've been a force to be reckon with; they were built up over the whole show to be a very powerful house with a lot of money, power, influence, and soldiers. They brought a huge army to the battle of the Blackwater, but now they get sacked at Highgarden and it's over? isn't the Land around the main city of each Kingdom part of that families influence as well? like it seems everything is just boiled down to the main castles in each Kingdom.... Casterly Rock, Highgarden Castle, Red Keep, etc. Aren't there thousands of miles of land surrounding each of those places with tons of smaller castles, fortresses, outposts, villages, towns, etc.? Like the North has Winterfell, The Dreadfort, Motte Cailyn, and more that I can't think of. Same with the Riverland's and Frey areas. Anyways, back to my point, the North would've fought against Cerseii anyway without the Sept being blown up, and Dany of course would have because she's been going there the whole show.
Not only did she forget about the Iron Fleet, she should have seen it from afar since she is far above sea level. The precision of the ballister is also amazing : one shot. If I had this level of skill, I would have aimed for Drogon with Daenerys on it. From the moment they didn't have the support of the books, it declined.
Ik this is a late reply but the show didnt only fall off because they had no source material. They obviously just didnt care anymore and used the last seasons to spit it in the face of every viewer
3 Simultaneous shots hit rhaegal.....and after that 20 ships couldn't aim at a dragon flying straight towards them.....even during attack on kings landing....that guy literally waited gawking at drogon for so long with a loaded scorpion.....aimed at drogon....all he had to do was pull the trigger.....but he let the dragon happily fly towards him and fry him
In my opinion, Rhaegal's death was the worst moment of the whole show for 2 main reasons. 1). It's one of the most ridiculously impossible things in the whole show. George said hitting a dragon from the ground is a one in a million chance and Euron did it 3 times in a row. That's a 1x10^-18 chance of happening (zero point [eighteen zeros] one chance). So Euron hit Rhaegal (a fast moving target) from fucking miles away with medieval artillery on a boat (Probably not the most accurate thing) square in the chest, in the wing and then straight through the neck. All this from behind a cliff so he couldn't even see his target. Not to mention straight after this when Dany and Drogon fly straight at Euron, he can't hit shit despite Drogon being a bigger target and much closer. Same shit next episode no one can aim anymore. 2). It's just terrible from a story standpoint. Viserion's death (As terrible and contrived as that was) had major effects on the story. It completely changes the nature of the threat that the white walkers pose because now the Night King has one of the most powerful creatures in the world as his undead servant and without Viserion, the Night King may have had a tough time getting past the Wall if at all. But Rhaegal? Dany and Drogon take King's Landing without any issues. We don't even get a scene where Jon finds out about Rhaegal's death. Jon and Rhaegal needed a much more developed relationship. Jon being able to ride him shows that not only is he a Targaryen, but that Dany isn't the only one who can control the dragons. Much of Dany's power has come from her being the only one who could control the dragons but now that power has been reduced. Imagine how great it could have been if Jon think's that (believable) mad queen Dany can't be queen and she's like well I have 2 dragon's so who cares what you think. Then Rhaegal sides with Jon and now both sides have a dragon. Boom conflict / drama ensues. The deaths of the dragons should have been so impactful and emotional. Viserion died because Jon had a berserker rampage for some ungodly reason and Rhaegal died because Jack Sparrow if he was played by Nicholas Cage and Ron Jeremy no scoped him out of the sky for cheap gasps from the audience and ultimately has no impact on the story. And that leaves poor Drogon alone to demonstrate his Sansa level intellect and burn the Iron Throne because he understands the deep symbolism behind the throne and how that it was the true enemy of Westeros that ultimately left Jon with no choice but to Kill Dany but it's all G, Drogon understands Jon's dilemma. Either that or Drogon saw a knife in his mother and attacked the closest pile of knives (My head cannon). Such a shame that the most popular and well known dragons in pop culture don't go out with an explosive bang leaving a mark on the audience forever, but with ridiculous death's and forced scenes that ultimately mean nothing.
Agree 100% especially the part about Jon and Rhaegal not bonding. Like compare s5 scene of Dany mounting Drogon for the first time to Jon riding Rhaegal. As shitty as s5 was, that was a pretty epic moment. It was magical, meaningful and you really get a sense that she did something that hasn't been done in centuries. With Jon, it felt like a random drunk joy ride. Like a dragon is a fucking horse anyone can mount for shits and giggles. And nobody, and I mean NOBODY is surprised that he is able to do this, even though Dumb and Dumber established in the show that only Targaryens ride dragons-yet everyone is like 'ye, Jon claiming this ultra rare magical beast is totally normal. Just Stark things 😊'. Rider/dragon bonds are a huge deal, and a life long bond in the books, yet Dumb and Dumber boiled it down to 'lol mommy likes you so you get a free ride'.
@@TheaTheGenius Honestly couldn't have said it better myself. Like What if the bond between dragon and rider is stronger than between mother and child? so what I said about Dany and Drogon fighting Jon and Rhaegal would be even more impactful. It would have forced brother to fight brother, mother to fight son, lover to fight lover. Could have been great. Or what also could have been great is we get more scenes with Jon and Rhaegal and then Rhaegal meets Ghost. And maybe have a scene later that forces Jon to choose between them. Or even just a scrne where Dany meets Ghost.
@@shapesnatch1341 absolutely. Imagine what it would have done for Dany's character development if she was forced to choose between the throne, and her child and lover. She would be forced to confront just how power-hungry she had become if she's willing to fight the people she cares the most about. Instead, we get 0 insight into why she nuked a city, other than the 'Cersei tried to use the innocents against me'. Like what????? How does that even make sense?
Also that the Night king didn’t kill the dragon that was sitting perfectly still but one that was flying is really stupid. They should have made it so that Jon got on Drogon in time and right when they took off Viserion got closer to the Night king than Drogon and that that’s why he chose to shoot Viserion down. Would have made more sense
Or that he tries to hit Drogon but Daenerys gets him to move out of the way so the spear flies past them and hits Viserion who is flying right in front of them
@@VleesetendPlantje14 thank you! Like how did he not target the dragon that was literally on the ground standing still and in that getting the rest of them cos let’s face it they wudve had no chance at surviving yet he chose the one flying in the sky??!!
I think my #1 dumbest moment was Arya’s line of dialogue to Jon *after* Daeny had just committed genocide burning down kings landing, where she said “I know a killer when I see one.” I just- can’t get over it.
One of my favourites is literally naming an episode "The Bells" and having Tyrion tell Danerys that ringing the bells signifies surrender, when it literally does not. Tyrion was the mind behind the Battle of the Blackwater. He was literally there. Daavos was literally there and literally said "I've never known ringing bells to mean surrender" when his son commented on them and exclaimed "they're ringing the bells for their new king." d&d completely forgot their Own Show.
LITERALLY. no but in all seriousness, d&d wiped their boogers on a piece of paper and called it season 8, it’s kind of offensive how poorly it was written 😂😂
I always found it weird that, shortly after the dragons grew to full size, they seemed for a minute to be going rogue--they even snapped on mommy. Then suddenly they're all obedient. Also, at least two times, Dany ominously said, "they're not eating enough", like, omg, they're going to starve. That was never mentioned again, after they discovered Kings Landing had an in-and-out burger, I guess.
Lol I reconciled it in my head by thinking it was probably the unruly teenager stage or 1 year old dog stage where they’re just out of control and destroying everything and then they mature and calm down. And as far as the dragons I figured they’re feeding them the bodies of their dead enemies.
this one is not a problem for me since they've established that drogon was the biggest aka the leader/alpha one. I think that once dany brought him back to her command, the other two naturally followed.
It would’ve been such a good treat to leave out any moment from season 8 and get the viewers slowly more and more frustrated until number 1: all of season 8 😂
I would have included the fact that the show built up so much to a long, cold winter coming, and even described stories of people freezing to death in their own homes, yet winter basically just never came. Nobody froze in their own homes, not even close. Instead they marched a bunch of unsullied and Dothraki (neither of which had ever experienced winter) to winterfell with no problems whatsoever, and marched beyond the wall for days and somehow still survived. Jon even fell in a lake beyond the wall in the winter and somehow didn’t freeze to death. As a Canadian who has experienced weather below -40° many times, this is absolutely absurd.
That one might be more excusable than it seems. Winter lasts for years but by the show's end it was, what, 4 to 6 months in? Less? Soon as they marched south I'd think they'd be chilly but overall still ok.
@@davidvvn if you watch the attack on King’s landing in season 8, they are literally fighting in a desert. Compare that to when Jaime was leaving KL in a prior season and began to see snow falling. Also, the bigger thing is travel. Think about how before winter had even come, the cold completely devastated and immobilized Stannis’ army, yet after winter came, people are going back and forth to winterfell like it’s no big deal. Travel should have been made almost impossible in season 8.
honorable mention: you show the scene even, when Dany legitimizes Gentry. thereby making him the rightful heir to the throne in the eyes of most people in the seven kingdoms
Well, this one was kind of smart : He was the only known living heir of Robert anyway, but by legitimizing him, she gets him on her side so he won't claim the throne... That's one of the few smarts choices of the season...
@@Hloan3319 Also, I guess D&D were trying to draw parallels between Dany & Aegon. During Aegon's Conquest, he legitimizes Orys Baratheon and makes him the lord of Storm's End. So Dany does the same maybe.
To add to numbers 18: How about Danaerys, who refers to her dragons as her children, who then loses a dragon but in the next scene hardly ever mentions it and is just all happy Jon is ok? Hey girl, priorities, it's nice that he's alive but your dragon just died?
@@sierrasloan9069 the whole point of Dany’s connection with her dragons is their her CHILDREN. As in she literally BREASTFED them in the books. And after losing her kid she’s just completely ok???? Shit writing.
I think one noteworthy mention is how they have Theon Greyjoy, who has pretty much been completely inept the entire show, guard Bran during the Long Night. Out of ALL the great fighters who could have protected Bran, you went this this guy?
Rumor has it, Alfie Allen was actually crying tears of joy at his character dying in a dignified moment rather than him being butchered by shit writing
@@sleepygnomie - Right? Fire that is so hot it blows up stone walls and melts steel. Even if Bron didn't get hit directly by the flames, the heat alone would roast half his body thus killing him.
Why is no one talking about the stupidity of jon joining the nightwatch again. Like what is there to guard against? You allied with the wildlings, and killed the whitewalkers...so? And how in the hell is there a wall anymore when we literally see it completely destroyed by the ice dragon?
@@thehonestchristian492 It's still stupid because the wildings literally scaled the Wall to get South where there were better chances of surviving and I the end they all go back
@@thehonestchristian492 The wall is hundreds of miles long, the whitewalkers destroyed maybe half a mile of it to get through at Eastwatch-by-the-sea. In the episode it doesn't even look like the whole wall comes down, you literally see Tormund and Beric Dondarrion standing on the edge of the wall watching the walkers go past
1st: Only a little section of the wall was destroyed to let the army pass. More important: Jon is not retaking the black there, he leads the wildlings (and maybe some of the crows) beyond the wall to resettle
Just to double down on Jon's stupidity of refusing to lie or go back on his pledge to Danny, which from their perspective lost their chance of getting the support of Cersi, because he is "honourable". Did they forget that Jon spent almost 2 whole seasons lying to Mance, to the woman he loved, making false pledges and betraying them all to serve his Brothers of the Watch. Then beyond that was clearly ready to do EVERYTHING required to fight the Night King. It was so stupidly out of character that I'm convinced that the part of him that stayed dead was his brain.
To be totally fair, betraying the woman he cared about and keeping the oaths that he made to the night's watch cost Jon everything. Literally everything. It cost him the chance to protect Yggrit's life, it cost Jon his own life! I think that swearing his loyalty to Daenerys, a woman he loved, probably felt to John like a chance to stay loyal to everything he cared about, an opportunity to not have to choose sides. It makes the irony of him delivering daenerys's final blow all that much more painful. What is really stupid though, is that anyone assumes that Jon Snow has a measure of honor just because he's "Ned's son." Ned's greatest pride was in the keeping of his honor, but there in was also his greatest embarrassment. John was living proof that Ned broke in his honor (apparently.) To the denizens of westeros, Jon's the bastard son of a man (that it was almost backhanded to refer to as honorable,) who broke his own oaths and left his sworn station on the wall, to swear loyalty to an invader. That Cersei thinks she has a measure on Jon's personality or who he is? THAT right there is stupid.
My personal pet peeve is that Dany didn't start suspecting Jon was a Targaryen when the dragons didn't attack him. Then it turns out he can freaking RIDE Rhaegal, and yet Dany accepts that fact without questioning it. What the hell?
@@MrShadowpanther3 yeah, it's a quite popular fan theory, the mad king supposedly raped joanna after which tywin quit as his hand, tywin bertraying the mad king as sacking the city surely supports it, as do tywin's final words to tyrion "you are no son of mine" iw ould certainly explain tywin's hate for tyrion
@@ruudboltz6677 I doubt GRRM said that to Dany. As far as Dany and the people of Westeros are concerned, only Targaryens or at least people with the blood of dragonriders of Old Valyria (of which only Targaryens are left) can ride a dragon. That's what made the Targs so special and was the primary reason they inter married: to keep the power of the dragon within their house only (and in sister houses like the Velaryons). Even if Dany didn't believe that, Jon being able to ride Rheagal should be a big deal for her and everyone else because it questions the Targ supremacy propoganda. At the very least, a random Stark/Snow being able to ride a dragon should warrant a comment. But nope!
I never understood why there were crypt zombies. The only people buried in the crypts were Starks so the only available body to turn into a wight would have been Rickon. Robb wasn't buried there and even though Ned's bones were returned back in season 2 the box they came in was too small for it to be a whole body, it was literally just bones. Everyone else buried in the crypts had been there for anywhere between about 2 decades and several thousand years and would have been entirely decomposed.
Honestly, it would've been interesting and dramatic to see a zombified Rickon resurrect from his grave and confront his siblings or Jon primarily since he's the one who couldn't save him.
I was hoping lyanna stark's zombie would show up.....but she was burried around 15-20 years back......again...winterfel is in north.....and cold climatic conditions would slow down decomposition rates.....but Id doubt a swollen zombie would ever show up...like the one they showed.
An extra aspect that makes Littlefinger's decision to sell Sansa to the Boltons so dumb, is that Littlefinger appears to genuinely care for her, albeit in a creepy way. But GRRM said at one point that he never would have done this, because he really does want to protect Sansa. It's the only mildly redeeming quality in a character that is an utterly despicable villain in every other respect, and to take that away is just stupid.
I hated that, but overall the point of that plot is legimizing the Bolton rule of Winterfell via marriage and jolting Theon out of Reek. And since the show yeeted Sansas best childhood friend from the story (that took the place of Arya with Theons blessing, and grew up with them), I honestly dont know who else couldve taken the role. It was coming from season 1, the moment they decided not to give Sansas friend a relevant role, they planned for Sansa to take her role, cause again, who else?
honestly it would make so much more sense to marry sansa to loras tyrell because then the entier tywin forceing cersei and tyrion to marry the tyrells to stop them from scheming would have some utility and you could have a actual moment of shit cerssei is dumber then she thought and tywin was right that could be a huge growth moment for cersei to help redeem her like jaimie, it also would be a redeming moment for littlefinger because he married her to protect her and not for a dumb reason, cersei also can now have a real reason to hate the tyrells and littlefinger now has the vale the north and the reach agaisnt cersei and he could make himself king like he always wanted because dorne would easily ally itself with them agaisnt cersei the stromlands dont have a ruler and cersei barely has any power in the westerlands then when danny comes it would cause a big mess for littlefinger and he dies that way, and because he truely cared for sansa she has a reason to hate danny, like the story would make so much sense if bealish married sansa to the reach
@@BambiLena666 They could just have reintroduced Jeyne Poole. It's not as if you can't introduce new characters later in the story, and to be fair, Jeyne barely had a role in the books either prior to being sent off to Ramsay.
That's because the fans are horny bruh (sansa raped and all). And i think the existences of littlefinger itself at that point is a joke. I mean how is he alive when dealing with lannisters and being a nuisance to Varys' grand scheme of putting False Aegon on the throne. But then again, they did remove the plot of the 'false dragon' from the series.
One of the most stupid moment in Got history has to be when the white walkers pulled those gigantic chains from their asses and then diving in the frozen lake to pull the fucking dragon out. Scuba zombies, yeah fucking great writing.
Exactly. They've established many times in the previous seasons that wights and white Walkers can't go in water. Like when Jon fought the wight army the first time with the wildlings. And if they could get in the water, why didn't they cross the wall from the sea? The wall is magic and keeps the walkers out but it doesn't mean that they can't cross it by other means. It's not like the magic prevents them from surviving on the other side.
@@chrisbyford2943 Yeah there could have a been another moment of quiet tension while he works his magic. The chains and all that was just dumb af. Imagine how scary it would have been seeing climb out the water with blue fire in its eyes. It would also have been waaaaaay more awesome to have a 2v1 dragon fight afterwards.
Yea she thought she was a subject of a curse of three children dying and crap, yet she forgot she actually had 4 kids. There was a child before Joffery.
@@donovan1345 That she took care of with moon tea. She had no children to Robert. That was show only, and kind of a questionable call since they didn't stick to the decision to leave prophecies out of the show.
My view with Jon surviving charging the Boltons is that the lord of light was protecting him - the way he dodged the blows is almost magical, he’s the prince that was promised
@@marycanary86The reason GRRM doesn't finish the books isn't because of bitterness, it's because he created something with too many plotlines and now doesn't know how to finish all of them in a satisfying way.
In their heads they thought that having Arya kill the night king was a huge plot twist that would make the audience go holy shit and get a similar effect as that of the red wedding. I'm sure they were really proud when they came up with this shit.
I think you're totally right!!! I work at a crappy tv production but our writers are actually talented. They churn out great stories day after day only for execs to come up with shite shocking ideas like that. I guess totally the same happened at GOT. They screw audiences with "shock value"
The only reason it upset me is that she didn't have a large enough jump. Arya can easily jump a distance of 40+ meters up to a height of 26 meters. Why hold back? And further, why didn't she do some type of floor routine spinning flips? Also, a battle cry? Really? She should have had a full line, like, "Hey Night King, think fast! I'm gonna kill you! Whatchu gonna do about it?!" They could have let her say all that during her jump, that way she'd still have time to drop a sick one-liner before sticking the NK in the exact spot where the obsidian shard went in, only not.
In one of those “inside the show” interviews or something, one of the DXD says they knew Arya was gonna kill the Night king three years before the finale. That’s because DxD had a sit down with GRRM because GRRM hadn’t written the last two books and DxD needed to know what direction GRRM wanted the story to go. They were contractually obligated to him to keep his version of the story.
Dothraki scene was so fkin stupid. They didn’t even have dragon glass weapons, so unless they knew Mel was gonna randomly show up and light their araks on fire they wouldn’t even have been able to fight..
That, and the fact that they sent their fiercest fighters out to be slaughtered....... AND USED AGAINST THEM!!! They could've spent days and days lacing the ground with oil and burning substances and wait for the dead army to walk onto it then light them up. They could've asked Cersei for any spare caches of wildfire. But nah..... Arya got this covered. LOL
Also keep in mind Mel is a witch and the Dothraki HATE witches. And she just comes up and lights the blades on fire with magic and they just don’t care lol
To be honest, when reading the book, Bran really was my favourite character to follow. I actually like the idea of this immortal, tree bound magic king who can see into all of space and time who rules for centuries and cannot be killed because he can see everyone's move. But in the show, he turns into an apathetic and boring plank, doesn't ever do anything useful, and his story turns into nothing. I fully believe in George RR Martin's intention to make Bran King, but I think he fully intended to set it up correctly rather than just rush it like D&D did.
I feel like Bran becoming king is actually quite poetic and fitting. However, the character development and story development that's necessary to build to that moment was an impossible task for Dumb and Dumber. So instead all we got was a comatose idiot and a wtf ending P.S. I was really expecting that "you won't walk again, but you will fly" foreshadowing to be warging a dragon, but all we got was effing crows doing effing nothing
Agreed. There was a very noticeable, mystical and mysterious build-up to Bran and his journey into the North, for which his friends all died. And yet, after that, he all but disappears from the entire story, his new abilities only coming into play at more or less the very end of everything. I thought he was going to have his own monumental part to play, similar to Arya... Which in a way, I guess he kind of did, but the way it was done was so subdued and subtle, everyone by that time was like, "oh, okay. Whatever, I guess."
Or how about turning into a raven when the battle of Winterfell was raging... literally could have been so useful but instead - just flies around watching it happen haha. Such an absolute travesty.
They completely bumbled the Three Eyed Crow too. Instead of him being BloodRaven AKA Brynden Rivers, a Targaryen and Northman, who was sentenced to the Wall, and went there along with a young Maester Aemon and eventually became Night Commander. He went missing north off the Wall and somehow ended up with the Children of the Forest. Instead he was just a random old guy, of no consequence.
As a massive Jaime fan, his arc being ruined in season 8 is my most hated moments. All of them, from him leaving Brienne, to his not caring about the innocents of King's Landing (it's not like he basically demolished his childhood dream when he killed the Mad King but whatever), it's all so frustrating
Jaime and Brienne hooking up was so fucking lame in the first place. They had respect for one another. Maaaybe Brienne could have had romantic/sexual feelings towards Jaime a bit, but she would never have acted on them. It was such a shoehorned shitshow of fan service that it actually makes me sick.
He was my favourite character in the whole show. He was built up to fight beside the living and kill Cersei in the end, becoming the Queenslayer and saving the people of King’s Landing again. But they ruin his character and then the ceiling kills him. It was such a disappointing ending and I hope that GRRM gives him a better ending in the books.
@@ladygrey7425 I've had that talk with my gf a few times already. When you take into consideration that the last ASOIAF book was finished right after the show started and he still haven't finished The Winds Of Winter a decade later, considering his already old age, I highly doubt he will finish his story before he passes away ... which is really sad.
Yessss, that literally annoyed me so much. Why would jamie go back to his asshole sister, when he has found true friends and even a normal relationship? Make it make sense ffs
But wasn't the whole thing with Jaime that "the gods made him love a hateful woman" meaning that he knows how much of an asshole Cersei was but he still loved her and would die for her.
Plus he gave her to a house with a litteral skinless man on their flag…so that implies that the Bolton were f*cked in the head (in differing ways) for centuries. And little finger handed over what he knew to be likely that last stark girl to a family known for being psychos.😑👏
For #10 I just realized that canonically the dragons won’t go over the wall. In Fire and Blood, Queen Alysanne Targaryen tried to fly her dragon north of the wall and it refused to do it.
@@sierrasloan9069not true. The children stay beyond the wall and the show mentions that the NK has tried but the walls magic has kept them back. They’ve also had Benjen mention that because he is a dead man walking, he too cannot cross the wall with bran. If they weren’t going to include that factor, they should’ve left it alone. But they hammered down on its magic being in the wall, until that wasn’t feasible for their plotline anymore. The dragons should have never crossed the wall.
@@Golami224 In Defense of Bran there are three things in which he indirectly was a catalyst for some good plots even if he was not part of the plots itself. His fall and then the attack on him leads to the capture of Tyrion and therefore to the attack on the riverlands, which was the precedent of the War of the Five Kings. The sacking of Winterfell by THeon and his presumed Death lead Robb to break his vow to the Freys, which lead to the Red Wedding, and the last part is his rescue of Jon from the Wildlings although maybe Jon could have dealt with the Wildlings on his own, but it is doubtful if he could make it alive to Castle Black and with Jons return the mutiny could be ended.
he should have been the one who stop the Night King thanks to his abilities and heroically die, therefore a lot of people would really appreciate his character, instead we have people hating on his character if not the most because of the actual ending
Or the fact that Tyrion makes himself the head of the voting committee and making up the rules of that make a new king at his own trial. Or that in the same scene, the Ironborn laugh at Sam’s idea of electing a King even though they have a democracy in the iron islands.
@@kingK2001 but that is in the books Not? there are not enough people seen in the series taking part in the election to be part of the bigger population (I believe in the books every man with a ship can be a candidate? but can every man with a ship vote?)
@@Swiss_femboy yes the captains and the kings can vote and everyone is a king upon their ship. Also In Rome it was only the wealthy aristocracy who owned land that could vote on laws and be elevated to Consul and that's still a democracy
@@wisdommanari6701 rome was a Republic, not a democracy, You’re only a democracy if the people can vote on laws. Switzerland is a democracy for an example, and Athens at The times of Perikles was a democracy. Rome and for a modern example the USA are Republics. Rome was an oligarchical Republic. There are many forms of „vote based“ governments for lack of a better term but they are all different wich is the reason we have different terms for them.
you should make a list about the best moments, so we wont just remember the madness and stupidity (as Tywin said), but the things why we liked the show
@@leone.6190 There are good moments even in the worst seasons, like hardhome, battle of the bastards and Brienne being knighted always put a smile on my face :)
@@ironvicho20 how is the battle of the bastards "good"? (Have you not seen this very video) It was sometimes a visual spectical, yeah somewhat (if you can look over the a little over the top cgi animations) but it is in it self pretty devoid of logic and thus pretty anticlamatic. Hardhome was done well, but it sticks out, rather because it being surrounded by questionable to even infuriatingly stupid things. Brienne being knighted is nice, but It could have been better for her, also in combination of her getting ridd of the accusation of being responsible for Renlys death. So I also found it pleasing but not as great as I could have imagined it. So I'd say those things were okay, If you'd take them out of the whole picture.
Great list! I was surprised John telling Ghost to leave after the Battle of Winterfell didn't make the list but then again there are so many moments to choose from.
Dany becoming the Mad Queen was the worst moment for me because it had such broad consequences based on absolutely nothing. It was surreal to watch. I kept thinking it was a vision.
also, now the dinasty of the targaryens are gone. and literally its the most important family of got, basically all star with them it doesnt make sense at all
Dumb and Dumber could have killed two birds with one stone by showing Bran intentionally warging Dany to drive her mad, thereby enabling him to take the throne.
This didn't bother me at all because the show foreshadowed this from the very beginning. This actual was one of those things that wasn't something random they decided to do. There's hints throughout all the seasons and several moments which indicate that she has the same Targaryean madness running through her veins.
@@SPRVLN27 There's no indication that she would go mad and burn all of king's landing to the ground with an indiscriminate fire bombing campaign across each and every street against civilians. She killed slavers, noblemen who collectively crucified children, and soldiers that were given the choice to bend the knee or die and chose death. There is no indication that she would just kill hundreds of thousands of innocents who are surrendering when she could have just flown directly to the red keep, which is where the person who killed Missandie/her current enemy was.
I’m just curious what Gendry said to Dany? G: “We are being attacked by the undead and need your help” D: “Where are they at?” G: “Um.... North of the wall?”
I also love that in season 1, the journey to the Wall takes at least a good week on horseback from Winterfell. Gendry ran that distance in like 20 minutes.
@@rkah6187 Well they were north of the wall in an undisclosed distance (days?) Gendry had to run to the wall not Winterfell. Either way the easiest way to fix it was to bring a crow with them. It was established when the Nights Watch went to the Fist of the First Men, they brought crows with them to relay trouble to the wall, but Sam messed up and didn't send them before he escaped.
@@RashaKahn Okay, fair enough. Still unrealistic and frankly dumb. As you said, having a raven with them or even Bran watching over them would have been logical.
@@RashaKahn Gendry had to run to the wall, where he would then need to write out a note (is he even literate?) and send it to Dany at Dragonstone on a raven (unless ravens can be told where to go in GOT, Gendry sure got lucky that one decided to fly to Dragonstone). The distance from the wall to Dragonstone is upwards of 2000 miles according my internet sleuthing and even if we shorten that distance by 500 miles as the raven flies, we are still talking about a small bird making that trip faster than a fighter jet would. Then you have to account for Dany's 1500 mile plus flight back to our hero's north of the wall. My god what terrible writing. The entire thing is just so laughably dumb if you put even the slightest amount of critical thinking into it.
@@BlyGuy as I said they would be bringing crows with them north of the wall, like the Nights Watch did when they went to The Fist of the First Men. That crow would warn them at the Wall. From there they could relay to where Dany is, but if she expected them to need help she would be at the wall. But no, bad writing screwed these scenes up too.
This story and its characters were so well written at one point where I genuinely mourned characters like they were real, I genuinely empathized with them as if they were actual people in a real world. Everything made sense, it wasn't just a story; it was a complete other world. Actually heartbreaking the potential
@@jcee5266 Could it be that D&D are just corporate puppets that just bent over and obeyed when their corporate masters told them to kill the show? Nah, right?
What was the line for # 25?
@UCg_s1VNrLoV4cFsH9TKXnuw "Varys no balls lmao" pretty much
Sorry flew over my head. Just a terrible cock joke basically.
*TYRION:* You should consider yourself lucky. At least your balls won’t freeze off.
*VARYS:* You take great offense at dwarf jokes, but love telling eunuch jokes. Why is that?
*TYRION:* Because I have balls, and you don't.
@@eduardoprado0402 Varys' expression is actually Conleth being genuinely disgusted they're being forced to regurgitate this rubbish.
@@NJglorifiedcrew you're right! Just watch season 8 table reading and focus on Conleth reactions... He is disgusted with the writing
Honorable mention for Jon being a secret Targaryen the whole show, and then having zero affect on the story and no payoff whatsoever.
Most of the dead in the crypts would of turned to dust after about 80 years so their would of been nothing to worry about.
In a way it was...
He stopped sleeping with Daenarys cos she was his aunt and that provoked her to burn an entire city😂😂
Don't reminddddd meeeee 🤦🏼♂️
@@set8135 really. Even the skeletons coming to life would fall apart from rot or just break apart from a kick lol
To be fair. The pay off was that it was the driving force to daenarys going mad
Lyanna Stark: "Keep him safe Ned. Noone should ever know his secret"
Ned Stark: "Don't worry sis. His arc will have no consequence on the storyline"
yet, Samwell finds in a book that Lyanna was secretly married to a Targaryen and had a child before she died.
@@justjeff600 which had no consequence on the story line
😭😭😭
@@justjeff600 note also that he basically picked a random book in the citadell's library, opened it at a random page, and found this decisive information.
@@RielMyricyne right!
After seeing this video, I’m so glad Tywin was killed before the writing quality got down; imagine him in Season 8 talking to Tyrion: “I’m tall and you are a dwarf lmao”
Oh god I'm picturing it now :'(
I'm so glad the Tyrells were out too. Thankfully they didn't have the time to ruin Olenna.
Unfortunately, Tyrion and Varys, the two smartest characters, didn’t get to escape the horrible writing
TBF, the eunuchs jokes where there before season 8 and the decline of quality
@@MrBrownvp1 ye like 2 in the whole series, and they were actually funny and well placed within their respective episodes which made them seem organic and fitting to the scenes and characters who said them. They didn't diminish the quality of the acting or the scenes themselves; they usually added a bit of much needed comic relief within very stressful and tense situations. Whereas in season 8, it's literally the opening scene and its a bad joke with bad atmosphere which completely ruins the scene itself, sets up season 8 on a bad note, and overall is a micro chasm of the overall problem with the last 2 seasons.
For #22: If Gendry could row all the way from Dragonstone to King’s Landing-a roughly 350 mile distance-in treacherous waters, in a rowboat with two oars, despite never rowing a boat in his life and not knowing how to swim, then Gendry Baratheon can run all the way to the Wall in thick ass snow.
Gendry is clearly the most physically fit man in Westeros.
It's just Robert's op genes
I thought the same😊
#Truth!
Well; hammering all that steel and iron musta paid off
Put Gendry in the fookin' Ironman right away! He'd clearly ace that shit.
I personally dont think them hiding in the crypt was the issue, it was the fact that the dead were able to break out of stone tombs when previously shown they can be kept in wooden crates
I think in the books, hiding in the crypt might be where they go. There's something... special about that crypt. Something almost "magical"
They didn't even showed us whether the corpses of the other Starks were also revived by the Night King's presence. I'm leaning towards some kind of magical barrier that prevents the buried corpses to be re-animated.
They can raise the dead. Correction we had only seen them raise those recently killed. We have never seen a graveyard brought back to life. Having a debate on the limits of this ability could be interesting. Jon debating with a more skeptical Tyrion.
If the Knight King can just raise corpses after decades of decaying why did he need to have an army to attack with? Why not just get close, raise the dead, if they fail then repeat before the bodies can be burned.
oh man great point!
🤯Helloo!!! Weapons and tools! Ever used any? The wight in the crate was a chained prisoner with nothing while the wights that went for the crypt were free; you can easily argue they had weapons and tools. 💥
It's not just Tyrion suggesting Bran to be the king, but the fact that everyone was like "Oh yeah, the jailed dwarf we were about to execute is right."
I KNOW! He is on trial for TREASON, for one freeing a prisoner and then coercing Jon to kill Daenerys. Also although I haven’t watched the whole series yet I believe everyone or at least some of them believe that Tyrion killed Joffrey.
Exactly! Tyrion is disgraced by the end of the show, he has no credibility or influence over anyone of those gathered there. Yet everybody just forgets that. Also what the fuck kinda name is 'Bran the Broken' and who is calling their new king that to their face??
Not to mention most people in the scene didn't even know him but were still cool with it just because...well, it was the last episode, so no time to argue I guess...
@@rkah6187 - Our King shall be Bran the Broken!
- Just Bran is cool
- Bran the Busted Up
- Ok, or--
- Bran the Wheely Wheely Legs No Feely
@@phoivos hahaha thanks, you've made me laugh out loud
The way that I can’t even go back and rewatch a show that I was obsessed with for years because of how badly it ended is so depressing.
Yeah I can't even rewatch the good parts, because if I do I can't shake the looming, inevitable disappointment to come.
@@philsparks6717 same. I’m like “what’s the point in X even doing this”
Same here. 🙋🏻♀️😭
I always come back every few years, watch character compilations, fan fic theories and alternative plots (which are usually better than the show) or channels like this making fun of it 😂 and that's my rewatching
That's why I only reread the books nowadays. The book plot just ends in a massive cliff hanger that's never going to be resolved. But the reread value is much bigger than with the disastrous show ending
#12 Makes me the most angry because Jaime was the only member of the king's guard to break oath to protect the people. Even someone as highly regarded as Barristen Selmy wasn't going to break oath. For Jaime to say that he never cared about the people was just absolutely ridiculous.
And throughout the show, I really never saw any love/romance between Jamie and Cersei. There was no chemistry, so when he leaves Briane to go back to Kings Landing it really didn't click. They were more like f**k buddies than lovers.
Netflix paid D&D $250m to ruin GoT. Nobody can ever convince me otherwise.
Too many errors, going all the way back to season 1.
D&D just kind a forgot he chose to be known as a kingslayer all his life because he cared for the people.
HE DID!! thats why he KILLED THE KING!!!! To save the people.
You forgot about the white walker dragon destroying the whole wall but not being able to get to Jon when he is hiding behind a bolder
@Major Mail I've seen some people defend that scene saying Jon is a Targareyen so he's immune to fire while in the books nobody is immune to fire not even Daenerys, they did that in the show just for spectacle. Like literally we have Tragedy Of Summerhall where Rhaegar Targareyen was born while his cousins, uncles and other family members died in a fire
@Baseball Koshien I don’t remember the night knight riding the dragon when it destroyed the wall
@@Darkstar_Dayne Yeah you'd think Jon "the name less bastard child," would have noticed if he couldn't get burned at some point in his life and wondered why...
Jon knows nothing so He cant die because He dont know how
This and arya said dragons melt stone
Originally, I didn't like how in Season 8, episode 3, there was a wight that was in almost every shot, and all it was doing was drinking beer and wearing only boxers. I later figured out that was actually my reflection in the pitch blackness of my TV.
Lol
this comment is f*cking awesome 🤣
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Best comment in the whole section.
That episide was on sky not long ago. I honestly thought, "what's this it's so dark?. " then I realised it was GoT . made me laugh.
Rickon’s death being completely forgotten about as soon as it happened should have been on this list
so true
we really needed WAY more slots than just 25 - i mean, how could the choose? there are so many problems...
I knew he was dead the moment they brought him back in as a prisoner. Of course in the books Rickon is still alive being watched by Osha on Skagos.
The sole reason it was done was to create what was ultimately weak conflict over the throne of winterfell.
@@Slender_Man_186 Its always easier to kill someone off when you don't have a plot progression for the character. Thats why I knew he was dead. At that point Arya, Jon, Sansa & Bran drove the Stark story line. Bringing him back to be anything relevant would've been too complicated for Dumb and Dumber
Honorable mention for Jon hiding behind a small lip of rock when the undead dragon breathed fire at him, and still survives. When Dany is on Drogon torching king's landing and exploding building on a pass by... and a concentrated breath from the undead dragon at Jon who isn't moving, is just hiding behind the small lip, the lip becomes impervious, and shields Jon not only from the blast that may explode buildings, but from the heat that would ultimately melt anything in the vicinity.
Don't forget that the same dragon blew up the walls of WINTERFELL with incredible ease about five minutes prior to that.
Jon played Skyrim I guess
@@TheStraightestWhitest that dragon suffered from the scripted cutscene to gameplay side-effect.
I mean Jon is a Targaryen no? Or is Dany the only one immune to fire? I'm not defending it since he still is wearing his clothes afterwards so you're still right but even if the flames would have hit him I don't think he'd have died unless I'm just mistaken on why Dany can survive fire.
The same dragon that took down The Wall which is not only stucturally sound but also protected against magical beings. We also saw harrenhal absolutely in ruins in some season with someone saying something like "That is what happens when dragonfire meets stone" or something to that effect. And now this dragon cannot destroy a tiny bit of wall while his kin will go on to melt all the houses in kings landing like butter. Just lazy writing.
I personally love how Arya had the ability to change her face and besides using it for the Frey’s, never uses it again... So yeah, waste of skills learned by the faceless men😐
For some reason she waited until the battle hast started to try to kill Cersei. Like she could have prevented the battle/slaughter if she went to Cersei earlier. There is no explaination why she would be there so late.
Or you know, how she spent 3 seasons trying to get to Essos to learn from the Faceless Men and then have her leave 2 episodes after she's started training, yknow
Hated the faceless man bollocks
Yeah, another waste of potential!
She would be great at the IMF
GOT critique videos like this give me the satisfaction that season 8 failed to give me.
It's sorta like the Star Wars sequels. I go to videos like these to make myself feel less disappointed.
"It has been over 2 years now. You should get over it and move on"
Me: No, I don't think I will.
@@firingallcylinders2949 Bruh the prequels had soul and creative ideas behind them, the last got season is just bad
So season 8 is technically still responsible for said satisfaction 😂
So cathartic
One thing that always bugged me about the scene where Jamie charged Daenerys and Drogon was how deep the water was when he was pushed in by Bronn. They were right at the water's edge only about a foot deep, yet when he gets pushed in the water he's suddenly sinking into the Mariana Trench. Either there's a cliff 4 feet from the water's edge or Bronn super pushed him a mile from the coast.
Bronn's just built different.
I guess you haven't experienced much of water places. E.g. when you enter Adriatic See it is just few meters and you have 15 meters depth. Not every water spot is ocean like. It is possible.
I also like how Bronn wouldn’t risk his life for Tyrion his actual friend when he was in need of a champion but here Bronn gladly lays his life down for Jamie. He really faced a whole dragon for him.
@@ashleyfigueroa3905 only because he wanted Jaime to pay up on his promise.
that's actually quite possible, I swim a lot, and sometimes you might be walking into the sea (any other body of water) thinking you are in the shallows, knee deep, when suddenly you trip and fall into deeper waters, which always gets a good laugh
Danny forgetting about the iron fleet was definitely one of the worst for me like she is hundreds of feet up in the air which means she can see much further than the fleet can so she should spot them long before they would be able to fire on her
not only that..10 min before that scene in the same episode they explain to her that the fleet is still there
Also the fact that they hit Rheagal with two arrows, and after that no one could hit Drogon, neither when she attacked Kings landing where they obviously had alot of those big bows
@@minarik01 Courtesy of the greyjoys iron fleet :D she kinda forgot about that :D
Jaime's arc being butchered with only one line is just sad. He deserved more... much more.
One of my favorite characters and he just got shat away.
Jaime was a man who did the right thing for the people, only to become a villain for it all his life. You could not end a character more horribly
it undones his entire arc with one line...wtf
@Your Wrong there's only one explanation: shitty writing
The fact that he somehow still uses a sword in many battles, when even earlier seasons it was a big deal that he basically lost his mojo is almost as stupid imo.
Shout out to the hound being one of if not the only character to stay consistent through the whole show
and hottest ☝🏻he really became the only character i watched the show for and arya. i’m reading the books now and rewatching the show
Yarp!
Narp?
Not really, he died unnecessarily just to kill his brother, who would have died anyway, making his whole redemption arc about forgiveness and not caring for vengeance pointless
@@ericgonzalez2946 when did he even get a slight notion about forgiveness? His arch was about learning to love again and value life. He never stopped wanting to kill the mountain.
“Who shall we choose as king to rule us fairly and create a new dynasty?” The answer: Bran, the handicapped boy who can’t have children and who doesn’t even care about anyone on a human and humane level.
Isaac Hempton-Wright even stated that he doesn't like the idea of his character being king, because all it does is create an Orwellian surveillance state for Westeros. Which is very worrying about the author if he thinks this is the best form of governance.
... And who already said he couldn't be Lord of Winterfell because he was the 3 eyed raven. But he can be king?
but they also said that blood would not decide royalty and that they would continue to appoint the king rather then continue royal succession
@@ladygrey7425 you can't assume the author (which author btw? books, series?) thinks that this is the best form of governance. It is what the characters supposedly think is the best form of governance according to their historical environment.
Tyrion, two episodes earlier "Dany isn't fit to be Queen because she can't have heirs!!!!"
Myranda dying by being pushed off a platform at Winterfell shortly followed by Theon and Sansa jumping off the wall of Winterfell from a higher point and surviving.
They jumped in the snow, while she landed on the cleared ground or smth else
@@todeswalzer1184I figured this was the only possible explanation but like they didn’t even drop something heavy over the wall to check first? They just knew the snow would be deep enough to safely cushion them from a HUGE fall
@@particlekoimedia5040 They had no other choice so I dont blame them. I would jump from a 10 story house roof in their situation knowing my chances are slim at best, none at worst.
@@Dark_Voice yeah I guess that’s valid
This one of all the things? This one actually makes sense ground vs sniw difference.
To me, number 1 is when Tyrion made Bran king
It’s like Tywin knew this was going to happen and wanted to drown him, but couldn’t because he was a Lannister
LMAOOO Tywin is actually the protagonist
@@DarkNoctum He was the hero we needed.
Lol so Tywin was correct the whole time
Although I agree with most of the rankings, I would definitely put the #8 in the top 3. The army of the dead looked so scary during the battle of Hardhorn where they litteraly decimate wildlings (who are known to be fierce fighters, like Thenns) or when they killed "all the Dothraki" which are also recognized as talented fighters (Robert Baratheon, Ser Jorah hinting it multiple times). In the battle of winterfell, Samuel fking Tarly managed to survive along with Jaimie I cAn'T wIpE mY oWn aSs.
Agreed Bran being King is BS.. it would make more sense if Gendry was K8ng for fs
To add to your point of the dothraki charging the army of the dead. You said maybe because they got excited about the flaming swords. The things is, is that Melisandre used her magic to do it and they were like "awesome!" But in season one the dothraki almost killed Danny for letting the witch use her magic on Drogo and to my understanding the dothraki have always hated magic and witches. Thanks Dan and Dave
The Dothraki charge the enemy on horses because that’s their main tactic..
Charging in a pitch dark night
Ya what was the point of that just for all of them to die. Lol
@@joffreybaratheon4904 that’s their tactic for open fields and attacking a group this was a entirely defensive situation where in for each man and animal to go down supplies their enemies so you have to trade every 1 man for like 30 white walkers. Nothing done in the beginning made any sense all siege equipment should have been behind the walls because they could fire over. All troops should have been within or on the walls leaving less angles of attack. The Dothraki were shown to be competent hand to hand combatants and even they would understand how stupid it would be to Calvary charge the countless masses of undead. That entire fight was written by people who had their brains slurped out by the brain bug from Starship Troopers.
@@brianmayabella5992 let’s not forget putting your siege equipment outside the walls
It'll never stop being funny how it was clearly stated in the first episode that it can take WEEKS to move around Westeros, and then eventually it just turns into the size of Ireland and you can get anywhere within a day or so.
More like Monaco lol
@@melissam597 You're right. That reminds me of when King's Landing used to have hills and mountains before Cersei had them all bulldozed to look like Pride Rock post-Scar.
Well it is an upside down ireland.
@@andrewjennings7306 Ah, now it all makes sense.
Seriously! Arya and the Hound leave Winterfell and arrive at King's Landing an episode later. Those two spent 2 seasons fuckarsing about in the Vale and Riverlands trying to get from point A to point B
I enjoyed this. I like how you virtually left seasons 1-4 untouched because, well, they were great.
When I saw Danny going crazy, I thoughts she’s going directly to Cersei’s keep and frying her alive along with the Mountain. Instead she kills everyone EXCEPT her!
Yep, I'd have totally understood her going crazy and destroying the keep but she has spent 6 seasons going on about how she is a queen of the people, then suddenly she doesnt care about the people when ses after a bit of revenge?
Arya should have had that death
Anger makes one do stupid and senseless things
@@mothermramaila8133 even if you think about it from that perspective it still doesn’t make sense. They didn’t make up any reason for her to hate the common people
@@mothermramaila8133 anger doesnt make a person who locked away her dragons after killing one baby suddenly decide to commit genocide
I will NEVER get tired of your videos dragging D&D through the mud
I will watch all of them
Let them burn in the ashes of their careers, they'll be writing high school musicals by the time winds of winter comes out
They jumped in there themself
Im heavily disapointed from HBO that they didnt stop Dumb and Dumber from ruining this season, and not even fixing this mess. They let them buttfuck the most popular show on the world.
You shouldnt just hate Dumb and Dumber, you should hate HBO too for failure to fix or stop this shit.
They deserve it ☹️.
Addition to point 8: It is also just incredibly stupid that you have this faction of necromancers built up for eight seasons, raising their enemies as undead servants, and you don't have this happen to a SINGLE main character. Imagine Sam, Dany, Jon, Arya or Jaime being resurrected and facing their former friends and family in combat, how impactful this would be. In season 3, we heard Osha tell that she had to fight her own husband as a wight, and this was impactful even when just told as a story.
Talk about missed opportunities.
I would have loved to see that. We saw a glimpse of Lyanna with the blue eyes, but that was it. Imagine undead Brienne (or Sam, he's useless)
Imagine Ned coming back from within the Winterfell crypt.
Then again, D&D would probably just use this for a bad joke: "Let's make an obvious reference to the fact that Sean Bean's character was killed off TWICE in our show! That'll make the viewers cream their pants as much as all the cock jokes did!"
Yooo i like this 😂😂
I was waiting for the inevitable heartbreaking return of Hodor.... That would be the worst, but I wished they showed that:(
I wouldn't want Arya to die, but imagine how powerful that scene would've been if Jon had to fight her as a wight.
Sam bringing up democracy and the Dothraki just running into a massive hoard and just dying were the worst bits for me.
😂😂
Democracy really is awful isn't it.
@@nationlessnationalist democracy is great! Just was super unrealistic and out of the blue.
D&D basically had no idea what they were doing. They were so obsessed with 'surprising' the audience they forgot to make it make sense. I mean if they wanted to surprise people, why didn't they have Hot Pie swoop down on a flying pig and kill the Night King before being made Master of the Kitchen?
Tbh it would have been a better ending for season 8
😭😭😭
I'm here for it. Even Hot Pie has a better story than Bran the Boring.
Because that would have been a legit surprise and not a fan swerve
Tyrion discovers he's the lost son of the Dwarf King, and after finding their secret kingdom of old, he manages to activate the army of Stone Golems that were dormant for milenia, and use them to help Daenerys :v
The fact that the Night king didn't throw his spear at Drogon who is sitting right in front of him ready to take off with all his main enemies is my #1
I always viewed that as the Night King being (understandably, given his powers) arrogant.
“I dont need to kill you directly. I could have. I chose not to.”
@@antibull4869lazy defence of bad writing
Agreed, I can just picture that bullshit camera pan from the Night King clearly about to cold logic his way into victory by killing the Dragon 100 feet in front of him ON THE GROUND, but then shifts his gaze to a dragon flying through the air hundreds of feet off the ground
Makes it even more stupid when you think how easily it could have been made way less stupid. All they had to do was make Viserion charge at the Night King and co, that would be a pretty logical reason for his attention to be redirected, to a dragon that is coming right at his group. Yes, we later learn NK is immune to dragon fire but what about the rest of the white walkers? It's plausible for him to want to protect his generals, plus it just makes sense to attack something that is about to attack you even if they wouldn't kill you. I doubt NK would just whistle and ignore a dragon blowing fire up his ass. Nah, he'd smack dat bitch out of the sky, then focus on the other one.
Right! I said that too...instead he shot a 700 foot Steph Curry, Joe Montana, hole in 1
Honorable mention: Jorah Mormont getting greyscale and not transmitting it to anyone else despite touching 99% of the characters in the show
because he didn’t actually touch them with the infected tissue on his body. common sense and context clues could’ve told you that
That plot all made sense to me, unless I misunderstood something. I thought grayscale had to be direct skin contact with the disease-so in Jorah’s case his arm-not just any part of the person or object carrying the disease. Like with Shireen, the grayscale part of the doll touched her face, but the parts of it she touched with her hands to hold it to her face must not have had grayscale on it since her hands were clear. Jorah kept his arm covered with his sleeve until he was at the citadel, and then Sam removed the infected skin, keeping his own hands and arms covered while he did so.
@@sierrasloan9069 lol you just felt like having a power trip including that common sense and context clues part, cute 🤣
@@JNDReacts thank you, this actually cleared up a lot. I was just under the impression they had to be in contact with the person, not the affected area. Makes sense
@@KadeensWrld lmao tell me your pride is hurt without telling me your pride is hurt. you assumed the writing was bad because you didn’t understand something obvious. And if you think writing words on the internet is power you’re dull.
Tyrian was clever and witty for the first part of the show. After getting broke out of jail and sailed across the sea, he turned into a moron who couldn't do anything right. That really bugged me.
He went from "I drink and i know things" to "LOLZ I'm drunk and have balls."
Which could have been interesting. A story of Tyrion running away from himself could been a nice little arc as he slowly rediscovers his confidence or something, but no, it was just bizarre writing.
It's like his braincells died in the privvy with Tywin💀
You could tell the actor who plays Varys was visibly upset at the table reading at what they did with his character.
@Melissa Faye There are certain fundamentals of story telling that the GOT writers just completely ignored. And community college writing class or student could do a better job.
@@jivet3919I doubt that. If great story telling were that easy, George would've finished his novel by now. As a writer myself, I can attest that it takes a time and a lot of creative juice to make a good story. I don't think D&D did a bad story telling job, I think they just told a pre mature story that wasn't fully developed yet.
Varys fingered Princess Elia to the Lannisters so he definitely deserved to die
@@equusquaggaquagga536 oh was that in the books?
@@jivet3919 exactly. Varys may have betrayed ppl when it all went down but the show had him practically yelling his treason to anyone who would listen. Varys wasn't stupid. I think the actor was more annoyed at how stupid they made the character 🙄 and I felt soooo bad. It went against his entire character to be so openly careless. It was not believable. Then again none of the endings made sense! I would need an hour to go over alllllll the character inconsistencies in the last episode!
Honorable mention: Davos telling the Unsullied to “create their own house”….😐
Right! 🤣
4Head
Gotteeeeem!!😂
Even if they were...uh...”intact”, did he not notice the lack of female Unsullied 🤦🏼♀️
In Reach, because Jaime has killed every person in the kingdom...
After 2 years, i still need videos that feed my resentment for this shit.
Yup. Watching in 2021 still disappointed.
Its been two years???? This shit is so fresh in my mind I'm waiting for this year to end me.
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When the Septon wonders what kept him alive, The Hound offers “hate.”
This resonates
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I still cannot get over SAMWELL TARLY SURVIVING, of all the great characters, of all the strong characters that can actually wield a sword and defend themselves. Samwell Tarly lives.
@Wynterking94I stopped expecting him to die after he somehow got out of near death experiences with 0 harm done. Every single battle he’s been in, he’s been miraculously saved by a skilled person beside him or with some object that happens to be perfect for the situation
@Wynterking94 Problematic is that he is like twice being hugged by wights and only plot armor saves him.
Saw someone say that Samwell is the author's self-insert so him surviving makes sense kind of.
3:35 you don't understand Gendry was rowing that boat for seasons, resting his legs long enough so he could make that one all significant very long distance run.
Bran could just tell Dany they were in trouble cuz he can see it
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Lmaoooo
Honorable mention: The Dothrakis charge the undead. Only a few stragglers return. Yet at the siege of King's Landing, the entire Dothraki army is intact.
Jon just forgot he was a Targaryen.
Bran forgot Jon was the rightful king.
That's right he is meant to be the king I mean bran being king was like the most messed up thing ever
Jon was the rightful king, but what good is the rightful king if he doesn't want to be king? Jon wanted to be free, to be with the wildlings so why force him to be king if his heart wasn't in it? This said, I don't believe Bran should've been King. I don't know who should've been king, but to me neither Bran or Jon were the right people to take the throne.
Why do you think he came all the way to kings landing.
Bran: hehehe... Evil smile
Jon is half* Targaryen
@@jaynyce5923 Do people usually take their dad or their moms last name? What does that make him?
This list reminded me about how the Night King literally had no plan for how they were going to cross the wall when they got to it. If he didn't get the dragon, there was never an established alternative plan for them to destroy the wall.
I've always thought that the ice powers of the Night King and the Others, along with the abnormally long and cold winter, would've frozen the Bay of Seals, which would've let them bypass the wall entirely.
I Giant opened the gate...he had more than 3 ig and an army of dead..they could just smash through the front gate ig
The dumbest moment in Game of Thrones was nobody finding new show runners when D&D were clearly not interested in giving GoT what it deserved.
Sadly true... we could've waited for a better ending!
Totally understandable but still would’ve been a very hard task to come into a show and just finish something someone else started I mean it would’ve been hard to be worse then what we got in the back half of season 7 and all of season 8 but still I think it’s a lot harder to find someone who could’ve came in and made that much of a difference
HBO´s fault. They were blinded by the success of the show
@@kidgforce1 It was D&D's fault. They were greenlighted more episodes but refused them.
@kidgforce1 George's fault. He wrote an unfinished knot of perverted nihilism, never finished it and sold the rights for silver. Can't blame a dog for licking his balls
You forgot Benjen Stark’s extremely unnecessary and random death/appearance to save Jon.
ikr 😭 he could've rode with Jon back to the wall
When Benjen was brought back into the show, he could have just came back, but for whatever reason they decided to both kill him and revive him in a single sentence. Just why?
They could have at least shown it happen instead of just saying it happened.
Remember, nobody had confirmed his death, so he could have just been lost for all we knew.
That and the fact that him being undead adds absolutely nothing to the plot.
Character revivals are very risky in stories, because if they are done wrong then it can remove all tension from character deaths, so they should only be done if it actually adds something.
Yeah, I think they just forgot how to logic.
@@dale2283 at this forgot they forgot to how to use logic in season 8.
nah man, he had to distract them so they didn't just continue going the only direction that makes sense for them, towards the wall. It totally worked and saved a lot of characters at the wall that didn't have time to evacuate. Oh wait, it didnt... they just survived the wall being torn down off screen... love Tormund's plot armor to do nothing :))))
Deus Ex machina
Jon Snow's lineage never being addressed definitely deserves a spot on this list
Y’all must’ve missed an entire episode
@@jcruise333 Jon's lineage being mentioned is not the same as it being addressed and developed. Who are Jons real parents has been THE question since the beginning and the way they handled the actual reveal to Jon, Arya and Sansa was just lazy, suddenly this big thing that they've been building up to means nothing, it barely affects the plot and the characters aren't given any time on screen to show how it affects them, Jon constantly saying I don't want it does not count
You could have taken out the big reveal and it wouldn't have changed a thing, they could have done that to a lot of things in Season 8 and it wouldn't have changed a thing
@@jcruise333 what relevance did it have other than making Daenerys angry because she couldn’t have sex with the person she wanted lmao.
Once they decided they were not going to roll with the prince that was promised plotline I think Jon’s lineage became sort of irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things). It was a retarded move tho, as the whole series is named after that prophecy (A song of ice and fire).
Ok, in the shows logic as it is (which leaves much to be desired as this video shows) Jon knowing his herritage, making him turn from being any more romanticly with Daeneries, is what drives her over the edge -- suggesting she really is mad and like her father being paranoid -- which in turn makes her thinking "breaking the wheel" is to raise all of Kings Landing to the ground Cersei style. Hence everyone she doesn't trust should be dead in kind of remiscent of her father "burn them all" cry before Jaime killed him. Surprisingly she suddenly has trust for Jon, the man that broke her heart, because she like anyone always goes back to an ex at the chance of getting back together - which is human but hardly significant of Daenaries head strong character. Its all a bit much, but following its own logic of making characters getting dumber than before to fit the sensational drama the script writers thought Game of thrones was all about and who the characters were at heart.
Dany not torching literally every enemy without having to waste 1 soldier is what got me. Yeah, so she can’t kill the Knight King but you can kill his forces. Every time the seasons were activated, they were unstoppable. But now you’re gonna sacrifice almost all of your infantry instead.
I personally think it's dumb as fuck that the Night King, played by a professional stuntman and sword fight choreographer, didn't get a badass fight scene with his brand new sword prop we see on his back the entire fucking episode. Such a missed opportunity to show off Furdik's skill.
the night king should really not have been a character anyway. reduces the whole looming threat with compelling real world parallells, global warming, uncertainty for future etc, to just some blue evil dude. removes mystique, sense of foreboding, and the sense of it being this unstoppable (un)natural force, just to have a face to put on posters or whatever.
like the Dothraki taking revenge against jon for killing dany is literally PART OF THEIR CULTURE.....IT LITERALLY STATES THAT WHEN A KHAL DIES HIS BLOOD RIDERS AVENGE HIS DEATH AND THEN JOIN HIM IN THE NIGHTLANDS
I'm pretty sure greyworm and his bae was Danny blood riders even then the dothraki shouldn't be willing to leave land that they could plunder
@@maadtee6281 nahhh Dany made all the Dothraki her blood riders before going to Westeros. She had a whole speech
@@dhamiprlove17 who were her blood riders cause we never saw them she had won their hearts thats it
@@maadtee6281 nah bro she got blood riders after Drogo died. A group of Dothraki left but she had Rakharo, Aggo, Jhogo and then once she burned down the khals in Vaes Dothrak she became khalessi to all the Dothraki and made all Dothraki her blood riders
@@dhamiprlove17 nah they forgot that they were Danny blood rider's plus I'm pretty sure they were killed. And the dothraki should have destroyed westerose
I think for me the Night King’s death was the most insulting and stupid moment. Such a compelling and mysterious villain with so much build-up, finally enacting his plans with full force, only to get 360 noscoped in an instant by someone he’d otherwise obliterate instantly. So many interesting questions with so much potential story were erased by some nonsensical ninja bullshit.
I felt physical pain watching that. That isn’t an exaggeration.
The absolute worst execution. It just sucked. Would have been less annoyed if even Sam or Jorah killed hi..
I wanted to see the night king destroy everything in his path and eventually take the iron throne himself where everyone is dead in his army, in the end all their petty squabbles about power meant nothing when faced with the one true power, death. That episode when they face off at winter fell I was thinking their fucked , there’s no way they survive this. But I knew in my mind some plot armour bullshit was gunna happen such as a little girl flying through the air unheard and then one shifting the night king. Why the fuck did the night king even land ? Why not let his army and generals do all the work seeing as he’s the weak link . He dies they all fall so he should just hide in the north somewhere or at the very least stay on his dragon ?!! So many stupid decisions in the end even though the show started strong.
What do you mean? She defeated him with the power of feminism✊🏻
A strong villian should take on the best duelists in a 3 v 1,remember how(Book only) Voldemort duels Mcgonagall,Flitwick and Slughorn at once and held his own very well?
Hard disagree. Including the Night King to begin with was a bad decision. One of the worst really
George Martin wanted to stray away from the concept of a "dark lord" one who's defeat would instantly fix everything
It's fitting that once he's no longer involved with the show, we get this massive cliche cause D&D didn't know what they were doing.
There's no Night King in the books for a very good reason.
There's a Night's King in legend but he's very different in concept.
If D&D wanted a dark lord, Euron would've been perfect but instead we got a massive finger in the bum
I think an honorable mention is Sansa stating that being abused and rapped was the best thing to happen to her as it made her who she is. *BARF*
Underrated comment
The 2 moments when I could tell the show was beginning it's downfall were LF giving Sansa to Ramsey and the Battle of the Bastards. There is no way LF wouldn't have known what would happen to Sansa and how that would permanently damage his reputation. Sansa's treatment almost feels just for shock value to try and convince the audience it's still a dark and gritty show (despite constant jokes the entire time)
Sansa becoming like Cersei in her "Fuck everyone who isn't me, I want mine" attitude and looking angry and bored all the time, when she was supposed to become the exact opposite.
@@wjzav1971have the kind of childhood she had and see how bright and sunny you turn out to be 🤭
@@theworkingcreatorIts not about being bright and sunny. Its about appreciating friendship and compassion and not treating everyone beneath you like shit.
The real question is "why Gendry"? He's the fastest? Says who? What does that even matter? Does he know the area or terrain? Wouldn't Tormund be a better choice since he lives there? Is the concept of scouts alien to these people? Why, exactly, would you bring a blacksmith on the mission to begin with. He has no training in any aspect of the military or survival.
Someone argued that Jon told Gendry "he's the fastest" just to convince him. In reality, he is the youngest, so the one with most stamima out of all of them. It's not amatter of running fast, it's a matter of how long can you run before you collapse of exaustion.
Davos 'you can't come, you're not a soldier'
Gendry 'No, but I'm a fighter'
Let's drop Floyd Mayweather in the Middle East, he can surely deal with ISIS
@@darkadrien14 Fan service. Gendry was there for fan service.
They apparently forgot the Nights Watch had rangers specifically for these circumstances.
Also forgotten completely was Gendry's ties to Robert Baratheon, and that whole bloodline mystery.
The stupid thing about hiding people in the crypts is how suddenly the undead gain superhuman strength and can easily punch through solid slabs of rock as if they were made out of paper..
Even though the wight they took to King's Landing in season 7 couldn't get out of a wooden box.
@@Aqquila89 .......maybe it’s because wights are stronger when they’re closer to the Night King?.....nah the writers aren’t that creative.
@@ImaginaShip This could be an explanation, but it was never mentioned in the show. Plus, thus super-strong wights that can break through stone walls then somehow failed to kill any named character in the crypts, even though the people there were sent there because they can't fight.
@@ImaginaShip Nah, when Jon Snow attacked Night King, then Night King resurrected the dead and they were literally standing by Night King and still hundred or so wights couldn't kill Jon Snow. Being closer to Night King didn't give them any extra strength.
So I'm going to be that person and talk about book vs show here.
In the books it is very clear that the wights can't survive in the south due to rotting. Ser Alliser is sent to King's Landing with a still moving, served hand and by the time he gets there it has rotten to the bone and can not move anymore. So these wights need to still have tissue, they are ressurected by magic but not held together with it, there needs to be tissue like muscles so that they can still move.
That is why North of the Wall, where it's too cold for a body to rot they can have an army and why Winter coming is so dangerous: if it's this cold in Westeros they can survive south of tha Wall too.
On top of that those are just ressurected bodys, they are strong in numbers not magically stronger than they were alive.
And of couse there is the fact that in the books most of the bodys are skeletons or dust by now. Meaning there would not be anything to ressurect in the first place.
So you could definitly put the people in the crypts in Winterfell savely because it would be impossible for 1. the dead to be ressurected because there isn't enough left of them 2. even if they could get ressurected they definitly could not punch though massive stone.
And even if you say in the show that skeletons can get ressurected and have magic superhuman strenght that doesn't explain the number of wights in the crypts because the bodys down there are so long gone they have turned to dust by now. So at best you'd get like Wight Lyanna, but something tells me that Torren Stark shouldn't be able to walk the earth anymore.
They said it themselves in that one clip - they simply wanted to feel that they outsmarted the fandom by having it be “unpredictable”. They ruined the show just so they could say “see nobody saw that coming!” 🤦🏻♀️ The show itself is the saddest death of all.
Definitely no one saw that coming. No one anticipated that the final season would be such a disaster.
The warped faces at the start of each section really elevates this already superb video even further
Another stupid moment is when Bran says there is missing a master of whispers...like..he can see and hear everything in any time, but he needs a master of whispers?
I feel like this is a point that gets harped on too much. If imagine worging is stressful. Bran would have to do everything all the time. Rather than just farm it out to other people where he can followup on information he seems necessary. A doctor can in theory run a clinic all by themselves but it makes more sense to hire nurses and other support staff.
He's too busy being a complete f up to tak eon extra responsibilities
@@lowkeylokii4205 there is absolutely no indication in the show that warging is stressful
@@harish123az yeah exactly, just maybe that it’s difficult to learn but bran did it with the three eyed raven for such long periods of times and the three eyed ravens whole life was doing such work
@@lowkeylokii4205 Stressful? He said it himself, he's entirely emotionless now. I don't think he even gets stressed.
Can we all just pretend that the true finale was the end of S6 when Dany & co. were seen sailing to Dragonstone? S7 & S8 were a fever dream, and all 3 dragons are still alive.
that makes sense, i like that
I only take the show as one version/timeline. Which is not a stretch considering there's the books. Then watch fan ideas which are amazing and make my own cannon
Yep, for me that's the true ending... It's better to believe the series was cancelled afterwards (besides, it's a huge disappointment, because, after how bad things were in season 5, season 6 re balanced everything and set the stakes higher than ever to make things epic and so long awaited things would finally happen), even tho season 5 & 6 have some silly moments they were still decent, season 7 was plain bad and season 8 just plain terrible.
True ending of the show is the moment Stannis prepares for the Boltons because that is where the books left off. Everything else is garbage after.
@@sakurasfish2115 that’s really how it should be for almost all fiction
Should have been in the list.
Cercei wiping out entire Tyrel family, along with other members of the aristocracy, innocent civilians, Pope and religious landmark of the Kingdom but not getting any consequences for her action at all.
And then Tommen suiciding and Cersei still wears that same constipated smirk the rest of the season barring like two scenes lol
There were consequences. Highgarden, Dorne, North all declared war on the lannisters and also dany was coming. There were no consequences in King's Landing, because after they were all dead, Cersei had the most power in King's Landing, and also claimed the throne
@@assadarlingtoni The Tyrell's and Dorne get beaten in a single episode and the North would have resisted southern rule regardless of whether Cersei or Tommen were on the throne.
@@assadarlingtoni Dorne did absolutely nothing; never even showed up until after the sacking of King's Landing and Cersei was already dead. Tyrells got demolished instantly which is contrived and stupid in my opinion because they were the second richest house in Westeros and had a great army. They got tore up badly at Highgarden by the Lannister's very quickly (like 1 episode) and it was over. What fucking happened to the realism in this show? season 1, it took them a whole month to get to King's Landing from Winterfell and it actually showed them travelling. Took up like 2 or 3 episodes actually of them just travelling down there. Now everyone has fast travel and can get anywhere within half an episode, with no indication of how much time has passed. Tyrells should've been a force to be reckon with; they were built up over the whole show to be a very powerful house with a lot of money, power, influence, and soldiers. They brought a huge army to the battle of the Blackwater, but now they get sacked at Highgarden and it's over? isn't the Land around the main city of each Kingdom part of that families influence as well? like it seems everything is just boiled down to the main castles in each Kingdom.... Casterly Rock, Highgarden Castle, Red Keep, etc. Aren't there thousands of miles of land surrounding each of those places with tons of smaller castles, fortresses, outposts, villages, towns, etc.? Like the North has Winterfell, The Dreadfort, Motte Cailyn, and more that I can't think of. Same with the Riverland's and Frey areas. Anyways, back to my point, the North would've fought against Cerseii anyway without the Sept being blown up, and Dany of course would have because she's been going there the whole show.
Tyrell family Is HUGE....
Varys openly committing treason after decades of flying under the radar and manipulating the system is the biggest betrayal in the entire show.
Not only did she forget about the Iron Fleet, she should have seen it from afar since she is far above sea level.
The precision of the ballister is also amazing : one shot. If I had this level of skill, I would have aimed for Drogon with Daenerys on it.
From the moment they didn't have the support of the books, it declined.
Ik this is a late reply but the show didnt only fall off because they had no source material. They obviously just didnt care anymore and used the last seasons to spit it in the face of every viewer
3 Simultaneous shots hit rhaegal.....and after that 20 ships couldn't aim at a dragon flying straight towards them.....even during attack on kings landing....that guy literally waited gawking at drogon for so long with a loaded scorpion.....aimed at drogon....all he had to do was pull the trigger.....but he let the dragon happily fly towards him and fry him
In my opinion, Rhaegal's death was the worst moment of the whole show for 2 main reasons.
1). It's one of the most ridiculously impossible things in the whole show. George said hitting a dragon from the ground is a one in a million chance and Euron did it 3 times in a row. That's a 1x10^-18 chance of happening (zero point [eighteen zeros] one chance). So Euron hit Rhaegal (a fast moving target) from fucking miles away with medieval artillery on a boat (Probably not the most accurate thing) square in the chest, in the wing and then straight through the neck. All this from behind a cliff so he couldn't even see his target. Not to mention straight after this when Dany and Drogon fly straight at Euron, he can't hit shit despite Drogon being a bigger target and much closer. Same shit next episode no one can aim anymore.
2). It's just terrible from a story standpoint. Viserion's death (As terrible and contrived as that was) had major effects on the story. It completely changes the nature of the threat that the white walkers pose because now the Night King has one of the most powerful creatures in the world as his undead servant and without Viserion, the Night King may have had a tough time getting past the Wall if at all. But Rhaegal? Dany and Drogon take King's Landing without any issues. We don't even get a scene where Jon finds out about Rhaegal's death. Jon and Rhaegal needed a much more developed relationship. Jon being able to ride him shows that not only is he a Targaryen, but that Dany isn't the only one who can control the dragons. Much of Dany's power has come from her being the only one who could control the dragons but now that power has been reduced. Imagine how great it could have been if Jon think's that (believable) mad queen Dany can't be queen and she's like well I have 2 dragon's so who cares what you think. Then Rhaegal sides with Jon and now both sides have a dragon. Boom conflict / drama ensues.
The deaths of the dragons should have been so impactful and emotional. Viserion died because Jon had a berserker rampage for some ungodly reason and Rhaegal died because Jack Sparrow if he was played by Nicholas Cage and Ron Jeremy no scoped him out of the sky for cheap gasps from the audience and ultimately has no impact on the story. And that leaves poor Drogon alone to demonstrate his Sansa level intellect and burn the Iron Throne because he understands the deep symbolism behind the throne and how that it was the true enemy of Westeros that ultimately left Jon with no choice but to Kill Dany but it's all G, Drogon understands Jon's dilemma. Either that or Drogon saw a knife in his mother and attacked the closest pile of knives (My head cannon).
Such a shame that the most popular and well known dragons in pop culture don't go out with an explosive bang leaving a mark on the audience forever, but with ridiculous death's and forced scenes that ultimately mean nothing.
Let go
Totally agree
Agree 100% especially the part about Jon and Rhaegal not bonding. Like compare s5 scene of Dany mounting Drogon for the first time to Jon riding Rhaegal. As shitty as s5 was, that was a pretty epic moment. It was magical, meaningful and you really get a sense that she did something that hasn't been done in centuries. With Jon, it felt like a random drunk joy ride. Like a dragon is a fucking horse anyone can mount for shits and giggles. And nobody, and I mean NOBODY is surprised that he is able to do this, even though Dumb and Dumber established in the show that only Targaryens ride dragons-yet everyone is like 'ye, Jon claiming this ultra rare magical beast is totally normal. Just Stark things 😊'. Rider/dragon bonds are a huge deal, and a life long bond in the books, yet Dumb and Dumber boiled it down to 'lol mommy likes you so you get a free ride'.
@@TheaTheGenius Honestly couldn't have said it better myself. Like What if the bond between dragon and rider is stronger than between mother and child? so what I said about Dany and Drogon fighting Jon and Rhaegal would be even more impactful. It would have forced brother to fight brother, mother to fight son, lover to fight lover. Could have been great. Or what also could have been great is we get more scenes with Jon and Rhaegal and then Rhaegal meets Ghost. And maybe have a scene later that forces Jon to choose between them. Or even just a scrne where Dany meets Ghost.
@@shapesnatch1341 absolutely. Imagine what it would have done for Dany's character development if she was forced to choose between the throne, and her child and lover. She would be forced to confront just how power-hungry she had become if she's willing to fight the people she cares the most about. Instead, we get 0 insight into why she nuked a city, other than the 'Cersei tried to use the innocents against me'. Like what????? How does that even make sense?
I’m actually legitimately still mad at Jon playing the “hero” and giving the Night king enough time to kill Viscerion.
Also that the Night king didn’t kill the dragon that was sitting perfectly still but one that was flying is really stupid. They should have made it so that Jon got on Drogon in time and right when they took off Viserion got closer to the Night king than Drogon and that that’s why he chose to shoot Viserion down. Would have made more sense
Or that he tries to hit Drogon but Daenerys gets him to move out of the way so the spear flies past them and hits Viserion who is flying right in front of them
@@VleesetendPlantje14 good one
@@VleesetendPlantje14 thank you! Like how did he not target the dragon that was literally on the ground standing still and in that getting the rest of them cos let’s face it they wudve had no chance at surviving yet he chose the one flying in the sky??!!
Viseryon*
I think my #1 dumbest moment was Arya’s line of dialogue to Jon *after* Daeny had just committed genocide burning down kings landing, where she said “I know a killer when I see one.” I just- can’t get over it.
Killing in war and being a killer are two different things.
Sharp as a foking cue ball😂
One of my favourites is literally naming an episode "The Bells" and having Tyrion tell Danerys that ringing the bells signifies surrender, when it literally does not. Tyrion was the mind behind the Battle of the Blackwater. He was literally there. Daavos was literally there and literally said "I've never known ringing bells to mean surrender" when his son commented on them and exclaimed "they're ringing the bells for their new king."
d&d completely forgot their Own Show.
LITERALLY. no but in all seriousness, d&d wiped their boogers on a piece of paper and called it season 8, it’s kind of offensive how poorly it was written 😂😂
5 times.. you said "literally" 5 times in that short paragraph of yours. Just.. why?
@@Smegmatician literally
@@Smegmatician literally
@@Smegmatician literally
I always found it weird that, shortly after the dragons grew to full size, they seemed for a minute to be going rogue--they even snapped on mommy. Then suddenly they're all obedient. Also, at least two times, Dany ominously said, "they're not eating enough", like, omg, they're going to starve. That was never mentioned again, after they discovered Kings Landing had an in-and-out burger, I guess.
Lol I reconciled it in my head by thinking it was probably the unruly teenager stage or 1 year old dog stage where they’re just out of control and destroying everything and then they mature and calm down. And as far as the dragons I figured they’re feeding them the bodies of their dead enemies.
this one is not a problem for me since they've established that drogon was the biggest aka the leader/alpha one. I think that once dany brought him back to her command, the other two naturally followed.
I mean the In N Out in King’s Landing is pretty fire, I’d feed that to my Dragons.
😂😂😂
number 1: the entirety of season 8
It would’ve been such a good treat to leave out any moment from season 8 and get the viewers slowly more and more frustrated until number 1: all of season 8 😂
@@sadrobot5501 Brienne was always a knight ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) she’s got armor on
Season 5 and 7 were shit too
Dumb and dumber ruined everything! 🔥🔥🔥
Throw in season 7
After re-watching the entire series, I appreciate this video. You touched on every one of my issues besides two of them I'd contest.
I would have included the fact that the show built up so much to a long, cold winter coming, and even described stories of people freezing to death in their own homes, yet winter basically just never came. Nobody froze in their own homes, not even close. Instead they marched a bunch of unsullied and Dothraki (neither of which had ever experienced winter) to winterfell with no problems whatsoever, and marched beyond the wall for days and somehow still survived. Jon even fell in a lake beyond the wall in the winter and somehow didn’t freeze to death. As a Canadian who has experienced weather below -40° many times, this is absolutely absurd.
That one might be more excusable than it seems. Winter lasts for years but by the show's end it was, what, 4 to 6 months in? Less? Soon as they marched south I'd think they'd be chilly but overall still ok.
@@davidvvn if you watch the attack on King’s landing in season 8, they are literally fighting in a desert. Compare that to when Jaime was leaving KL in a prior season and began to see snow falling. Also, the bigger thing is travel. Think about how before winter had even come, the cold completely devastated and immobilized Stannis’ army, yet after winter came, people are going back and forth to winterfell like it’s no big deal. Travel should have been made almost impossible in season 8.
I agree with you, just the stories you mentioned are about the long night, not about simple winters.
Forget having “experience”, most of them didn’t even have shirts!
honorable mention: you show the scene even, when Dany legitimizes Gentry. thereby making him the rightful heir to the throne in the eyes of most people in the seven kingdoms
@@ΕλληΦεαρινου EEK will fix thx
@@willyreeves319 You're welcome! 😊
@@ΕλληΦεαρινου No I'm Welcome
Well, this one was kind of smart : He was the only known living heir of Robert anyway, but by legitimizing him, she gets him on her side so he won't claim the throne... That's one of the few smarts choices of the season...
@@Hloan3319 Also, I guess D&D were trying to draw parallels between Dany & Aegon. During Aegon's Conquest, he legitimizes Orys Baratheon and makes him the lord of Storm's End. So Dany does the same maybe.
To add to numbers 18: How about Danaerys, who refers to her dragons as her children, who then loses a dragon but in the next scene hardly ever mentions it and is just all happy Jon is ok? Hey girl, priorities, it's nice that he's alive but your dragon just died?
so her needlessly bringing it up while at war is more helpful to the show?
@@sierrasloan9069 the whole point of Dany’s connection with her dragons is their her CHILDREN. As in she literally BREASTFED them in the books. And after losing her kid she’s just completely ok???? Shit writing.
THIS. ISTG I WAS FUMING
@@juandis1m0 personally I disagree.
her dragon sense was tingling, it could subconsciously smell a blood relative and was ready to breed some more dragon babies XD
I think one noteworthy mention is how they have Theon Greyjoy, who has pretty much been completely inept the entire show, guard Bran during the Long Night. Out of ALL the great fighters who could have protected Bran, you went this this guy?
Well He had the iron born with him
Night King: Kills Theon in like 2 seconds right away
Also Night King: Holds onto Arya and waits for her to stab him
I would've rather had Theon kill the Night King...would've been a great capper to his redemption tale.
Rumor has it, Alfie Allen was actually crying tears of joy at his character dying in a dignified moment rather than him being butchered by shit writing
Tbh, Hotpie could have wasted the night king without a sweat
Plot armor. Everything after season 4 is shit and there’s a lot of sloppy moments after S1
@@Serby665 In fairness to the Night King, Hotpie could waste anyone no sweat. Dude is Squirrel-Girl-level OP.
Honorable mention: Bron being the master of coin and Bran needs a master of whisper at the end
Bronn surviving this scene was ludicrous. Like did he suddenly become fireproof?
@@sleepygnomie - Right? Fire that is so hot it blows up stone walls and melts steel. Even if Bron didn't get hit directly by the flames, the heat alone would roast half his body thus killing him.
You know, the dude who said he doesnt even understand the concept of lending and borrowing money.
@@sleepygnomie Not defending season 8, it sucks, but I kind of assumed he wasn't in Kings Landing at the time.
I honestly gave the master of whisper a pass cuz i figured " oh its symbolic"
Why is no one talking about the stupidity of jon joining the nightwatch again.
Like what is there to guard against? You allied with the wildlings, and killed the whitewalkers...so? And how in the hell is there a wall anymore when we literally see it completely destroyed by the ice dragon?
Wasn't only a section of the wall destroyed?
@@JG-wy4mz looked like the whole thing to me.
@@thehonestchristian492 It's still stupid because the wildings literally scaled the Wall to get South where there were better chances of surviving and I the end they all go back
@@thehonestchristian492 The wall is hundreds of miles long, the whitewalkers destroyed maybe half a mile of it to get through at Eastwatch-by-the-sea. In the episode it doesn't even look like the whole wall comes down, you literally see Tormund and Beric Dondarrion standing on the edge of the wall watching the walkers go past
1st:
Only a little section of the wall was destroyed to let the army pass.
More important:
Jon is not retaking the black there, he leads the wildlings (and maybe some of the crows) beyond the wall to resettle
The last distorted Bran's picture killed me man, you are an artist *hatsoff*
Just to double down on Jon's stupidity of refusing to lie or go back on his pledge to Danny, which from their perspective lost their chance of getting the support of Cersi, because he is "honourable". Did they forget that Jon spent almost 2 whole seasons lying to Mance, to the woman he loved, making false pledges and betraying them all to serve his Brothers of the Watch. Then beyond that was clearly ready to do EVERYTHING required to fight the Night King. It was so stupidly out of character that I'm convinced that the part of him that stayed dead was his brain.
Good point
Good catch
To be totally fair, betraying the woman he cared about and keeping the oaths that he made to the night's watch cost Jon everything. Literally everything. It cost him the chance to protect Yggrit's life, it cost Jon his own life! I think that swearing his loyalty to Daenerys, a woman he loved, probably felt to John like a chance to stay loyal to everything he cared about, an opportunity to not have to choose sides. It makes the irony of him delivering daenerys's final blow all that much more painful.
What is really stupid though, is that anyone assumes that Jon Snow has a measure of honor just because he's "Ned's son." Ned's greatest pride was in the keeping of his honor, but there in was also his greatest embarrassment. John was living proof that Ned broke in his honor (apparently.) To the denizens of westeros, Jon's the bastard son of a man (that it was almost backhanded to refer to as honorable,) who broke his own oaths and left his sworn station on the wall, to swear loyalty to an invader. That Cersei thinks she has a measure on Jon's personality or who he is? THAT right there is stupid.
My personal pet peeve is that Dany didn't start suspecting Jon was a Targaryen when the dragons didn't attack him. Then it turns out he can freaking RIDE Rhaegal, and yet Dany accepts that fact without questioning it. What the hell?
GRRM has mentioned that you don't need to be a Targaryen to ride a dragon. So that's not really a giveaway
Mommy likes him so he must be cool...
Although they let Tyrion touch them as well, but I have heard suspicions he was fathered by a Targaryen as well.
@@MrShadowpanther3 yeah, it's a quite popular fan theory, the mad king supposedly raped joanna after which tywin quit as his hand, tywin bertraying the mad king as sacking the city surely supports it, as do tywin's final words to tyrion "you are no son of mine" iw ould certainly explain tywin's hate for tyrion
@@ruudboltz6677 I doubt GRRM said that to Dany. As far as Dany and the people of Westeros are concerned, only Targaryens or at least people with the blood of dragonriders of Old Valyria (of which only Targaryens are left) can ride a dragon. That's what made the Targs so special and was the primary reason they inter married: to keep the power of the dragon within their house only (and in sister houses like the Velaryons). Even if Dany didn't believe that, Jon being able to ride Rheagal should be a big deal for her and everyone else because it questions the Targ supremacy propoganda. At the very least, a random Stark/Snow being able to ride a dragon should warrant a comment. But nope!
@@ruudboltz6677 tyrion went into the dungeon and wasn’t burned or touched by the dragon. You don’t have to be a targaryean for that
I never understood why there were crypt zombies. The only people buried in the crypts were Starks so the only available body to turn into a wight would have been Rickon. Robb wasn't buried there and even though Ned's bones were returned back in season 2 the box they came in was too small for it to be a whole body, it was literally just bones. Everyone else buried in the crypts had been there for anywhere between about 2 decades and several thousand years and would have been entirely decomposed.
Damn, that's a really good point.
Honestly, it would've been interesting and dramatic to see a zombified Rickon resurrect from his grave and confront his siblings or Jon primarily since he's the one who couldn't save him.
You haven't seen 'Army of Darkness?' The Necronomicon brought back an entire skeleton army in that one.
I was hoping lyanna stark's zombie would show up.....but she was burried around 15-20 years back......again...winterfel is in north.....and cold climatic conditions would slow down decomposition rates.....but Id doubt a swollen zombie would ever show up...like the one they showed.
Better Call Saul would NEVER treat me like this🥰🥰
An extra aspect that makes Littlefinger's decision to sell Sansa to the Boltons so dumb, is that Littlefinger appears to genuinely care for her, albeit in a creepy way. But GRRM said at one point that he never would have done this, because he really does want to protect Sansa. It's the only mildly redeeming quality in a character that is an utterly despicable villain in every other respect, and to take that away is just stupid.
I hated that, but overall the point of that plot is legimizing the Bolton rule of Winterfell via marriage and jolting Theon out of Reek. And since the show yeeted Sansas best childhood friend from the story (that took the place of Arya with Theons blessing, and grew up with them), I honestly dont know who else couldve taken the role. It was coming from season 1, the moment they decided not to give Sansas friend a relevant role, they planned for Sansa to take her role, cause again, who else?
honestly it would make so much more sense to marry sansa to loras tyrell because then the entier tywin forceing cersei and tyrion to marry the tyrells to stop them from scheming would have some utility and you could have a actual moment of shit cerssei is dumber then she thought and tywin was right that could be a huge growth moment for cersei to help redeem her like jaimie, it also would be a redeming moment for littlefinger because he married her to protect her and not for a dumb reason, cersei also can now have a real reason to hate the tyrells and littlefinger now has the vale the north and the reach agaisnt cersei and he could make himself king like he always wanted because dorne would easily ally itself with them agaisnt cersei the stromlands dont have a ruler and cersei barely has any power in the westerlands then when danny comes it would cause a big mess for littlefinger and he dies that way, and because he truely cared for sansa she has a reason to hate danny, like the story would make so much sense if bealish married sansa to the reach
@@BambiLena666 They could just have reintroduced Jeyne Poole. It's not as if you can't introduce new characters later in the story, and to be fair, Jeyne barely had a role in the books either prior to being sent off to Ramsay.
This just makes me mad all over again lmao
That's because the fans are horny bruh (sansa raped and all). And i think the existences of littlefinger itself at that point is a joke. I mean how is he alive when dealing with lannisters and being a nuisance to Varys' grand scheme of putting False Aegon on the throne. But then again, they did remove the plot of the 'false dragon' from the series.
One of the most stupid moment in Got history has to be when the white walkers pulled those gigantic chains from their asses and then diving in the frozen lake to pull the fucking dragon out. Scuba zombies, yeah fucking great writing.
Exactly. They've established many times in the previous seasons that wights and white Walkers can't go in water. Like when Jon fought the wight army the first time with the wildlings. And if they could get in the water, why didn't they cross the wall from the sea? The wall is magic and keeps the walkers out but it doesn't mean that they can't cross it by other means. It's not like the magic prevents them from surviving on the other side.
yep and they wouldve gotten into the water and followed john snow when he first took the wildlings south
They should of just had the night king raise his arms and the dragons bursts out of the ice
@@chrisbyford2943 Yeah there could have a been another moment of quiet tension while he works his magic. The chains and all that was just dumb af. Imagine how scary it would have been seeing climb out the water with blue fire in its eyes. It would also have been waaaaaay more awesome to have a 2v1 dragon fight afterwards.
@Godded Modded Scary because its an _undead_ dragon. 💀
I guess D&D forgot that Cersei is obsessed with killing Tyrion because she was convinced he was prophesied to kill her.
Yea she thought she was a subject of a curse of three children dying and crap, yet she forgot she actually had 4 kids. There was a child before Joffery.
@@donovan1345
That she took care of with moon tea. She had no children to Robert. That was show only, and kind of a questionable call since they didn't stick to the decision to leave prophecies out of the show.
I guess you kinda forgot that valonqar prophecy was never a part of the show.
@@retriarius845 She does meet Maggie in the show, who tells her that she will have three children.
@@Rougarou99 I know. But there was no valonqar prophecy which the comment was based on.
My view with Jon surviving charging the Boltons is that the lord of light was protecting him - the way he dodged the blows is almost magical, he’s the prince that was promised
it was plot armor who saved him
So the lord of light only saved him to be in the nightswatch at the end. Lmao
@@themarushin I like how literally even Jon is like "There is still a Nightswatch?!" - even the character knows how stupid it is
jon's plot armor is so thick, it actually protected him from getting a decent arc
I love how no matter how bitter I am, these videos always remind me there’s always someone more bitter.
You love that?
@@sitcomchristian6886 yea
youll never be as bitter as grrm seemingly losing his zest for even finishing the book series (presumably cos of how shit the telly show turned out"
Hahaha right.
@@marycanary86The reason GRRM doesn't finish the books isn't because of bitterness, it's because he created something with too many plotlines and now doesn't know how to finish all of them in a satisfying way.
In their heads they thought that having Arya kill the night king was a huge plot twist that would make the audience go holy shit and get a similar effect as that of the red wedding. I'm sure they were really proud when they came up with this shit.
Even thought the night king grabbed her by the neck and they showed in previous episodes they fuck you up bad when they touch you
I think you're totally right!!! I work at a crappy tv production but our writers are actually talented. They churn out great stories day after day only for execs to come up with shite shocking ideas like that. I guess totally the same happened at GOT. They screw audiences with "shock value"
The only reason it upset me is that she didn't have a large enough jump. Arya can easily jump a distance of 40+ meters up to a height of 26 meters. Why hold back? And further, why didn't she do some type of floor routine spinning flips? Also, a battle cry? Really? She should have had a full line, like, "Hey Night King, think fast! I'm gonna kill you! Whatchu gonna do about it?!" They could have let her say all that during her jump, that way she'd still have time to drop a sick one-liner before sticking the NK in the exact spot where the obsidian shard went in, only not.
I’d be happier if she killed Cersei
In one of those “inside the show” interviews or something, one of the DXD says they knew Arya was gonna kill the Night king three years before the finale. That’s because DxD had a sit down with GRRM because GRRM hadn’t written the last two books and DxD needed to know what direction GRRM wanted the story to go. They were contractually obligated to him to keep his version of the story.
There's all of this talk about how this first line will set the precedent for season 8 and then he's just like, number 24!
Dothraki scene was so fkin stupid. They didn’t even have dragon glass weapons, so unless they knew Mel was gonna randomly show up and light their araks on fire they wouldn’t even have been able to fight..
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That, and the fact that they sent their fiercest fighters out to be slaughtered....... AND USED AGAINST THEM!!! They could've spent days and days lacing the ground with oil and burning substances and wait for the dead army to walk onto it then light them up. They could've asked Cersei for any spare caches of wildfire. But nah..... Arya got this covered. LOL
Also keep in mind Mel is a witch and the Dothraki HATE witches. And she just comes up and lights the blades on fire with magic and they just don’t care lol
To be honest, when reading the book, Bran really was my favourite character to follow. I actually like the idea of this immortal, tree bound magic king who can see into all of space and time who rules for centuries and cannot be killed because he can see everyone's move. But in the show, he turns into an apathetic and boring plank, doesn't ever do anything useful, and his story turns into nothing. I fully believe in George RR Martin's intention to make Bran King, but I think he fully intended to set it up correctly rather than just rush it like D&D did.
I feel like Bran becoming king is actually quite poetic and fitting. However, the character development and story development that's necessary to build to that moment was an impossible task for Dumb and Dumber. So instead all we got was a comatose idiot and a wtf ending
P.S. I was really expecting that "you won't walk again, but you will fly" foreshadowing to be warging a dragon, but all we got was effing crows doing effing nothing
Agreed. There was a very noticeable, mystical and mysterious build-up to Bran and his journey into the North, for which his friends all died. And yet, after that, he all but disappears from the entire story, his new abilities only coming into play at more or less the very end of everything. I thought he was going to have his own monumental part to play, similar to Arya...
Which in a way, I guess he kind of did, but the way it was done was so subdued and subtle, everyone by that time was like, "oh, okay. Whatever, I guess."
Yeah the first chapter was even with bran,, bran is the king and Jon is the hero but they ruined all of that foreshadowing lmao
Or how about turning into a raven when the battle of Winterfell was raging... literally could have been so useful but instead - just flies around watching it happen haha. Such an absolute travesty.
They completely bumbled the Three Eyed Crow too. Instead of him being BloodRaven AKA Brynden Rivers, a Targaryen and Northman, who was sentenced to the Wall, and went there along with a young Maester Aemon and eventually became Night Commander. He went missing north off the Wall and somehow ended up with the Children of the Forest. Instead he was just a random old guy, of no consequence.
As a massive Jaime fan, his arc being ruined in season 8 is my most hated moments. All of them, from him leaving Brienne, to his not caring about the innocents of King's Landing (it's not like he basically demolished his childhood dream when he killed the Mad King but whatever), it's all so frustrating
Jaime and Brienne hooking up was so fucking lame in the first place. They had respect for one another. Maaaybe Brienne could have had romantic/sexual feelings towards Jaime a bit, but she would never have acted on them. It was such a shoehorned shitshow of fan service that it actually makes me sick.
He was my favourite character in the whole show. He was built up to fight beside the living and kill Cersei in the end, becoming the Queenslayer and saving the people of King’s Landing again. But they ruin his character and then the ceiling kills him. It was such a disappointing ending and I hope that GRRM gives him a better ending in the books.
D&D liked Nikolai as the d-bag Jaime from S1&2 so much, they cut almost every single sympathetic thing about his character.
If GRRM ever gets off his fat wrinkly old ass and finishes the damned things before he croaks that is.
@@ladygrey7425 I've had that talk with my gf a few times already. When you take into consideration that the last ASOIAF book was finished right after the show started and he still haven't finished The Winds Of Winter a decade later, considering his already old age, I highly doubt he will finish his story before he passes away ... which is really sad.
I agree that #15, "Jon charging Ramsay's army and surviving" is a hilarious example of plot armor, but...damn it was dramatic and effective :)
Worst Moment # ZERO: Jaime returning to Cersei's arms, rather than simply killing her.
ikr. I always believe Jaime is the brother who strangles Cersei to death with his golden hand.
I'm a hateful man. Like, wow. Such weight in that one statement. Hahahahaha, lol no :'cccccc
Yessss, that literally annoyed me so much. Why would jamie go back to his asshole sister, when he has found true friends and even a normal relationship?
Make it make sense ffs
But wasn't the whole thing with Jaime that "the gods made him love a hateful woman" meaning that he knows how much of an asshole Cersei was but he still loved her and would die for her.
Swear to God, this annoyed me the most!
6:20 also, littlefinger's motive for almost everything he did before then was to get sansa, so him throwing her away like this undermines all of that
@Elliot Rose Fake Arya, not fake Sansa.
Plus he gave her to a house with a litteral skinless man on their flag…so that implies that the Bolton were f*cked in the head (in differing ways) for centuries. And little finger handed over what he knew to be likely that last stark girl to a family known for being psychos.😑👏
For #10 I just realized that canonically the dragons won’t go over the wall. In Fire and Blood, Queen Alysanne Targaryen tried to fly her dragon north of the wall and it refused to do it.
Canonically. Dany’s Dragons don’t care I guess
canonically that’s the book and not the show.
Was the show wall accurate, and if yes, did he try flying out to the see and getting behind the wall from the side? Would make a total sense to me.
The night king was to find the horn of winter and bring it down. Nope, and ice dragon spewing dragon fire and not melting.
@@sierrasloan9069not true. The children stay beyond the wall and the show mentions that the NK has tried but the walls magic has kept them back. They’ve also had Benjen mention that because he is a dead man walking, he too cannot cross the wall with bran. If they weren’t going to include that factor, they should’ve left it alone. But they hammered down on its magic being in the wall, until that wasn’t feasible for their plotline anymore. The dragons should have never crossed the wall.
You nailed it honestly 😂you touched on things I felt but couldn’t quite put into words as well. Great vid❤
essentially, bran's entire role in the long night.
@@Golami224 In Defense of Bran there are three things in which he indirectly was a catalyst for some good plots even if he was not part of the plots itself. His fall and then the attack on him leads to the capture of Tyrion and therefore to the attack on the riverlands, which was the precedent of the War of the Five Kings. The sacking of Winterfell by THeon and his presumed Death lead Robb to break his vow to the Freys, which lead to the Red Wedding, and the last part is his rescue of Jon from the Wildlings although maybe Jon could have dealt with the Wildlings on his own, but it is doubtful if he could make it alive to Castle Black and with Jons return the mutiny could be ended.
The guy can see the future and past but only decides to use this to look at acient wheelchairs lmao
He was busy playing Crow VR 😂.
he should have been the one who stop the Night King thanks to his abilities and heroically die, therefore a lot of people would really appreciate his character, instead we have people hating on his character if not the most because of the actual ending
He should of used his psychic animal skills to take out night kings dragon
Or the fact that Tyrion makes himself the head of the voting committee and making up the rules of that make a new king at his own trial. Or that in the same scene, the Ironborn laugh at Sam’s idea of electing a King even though they have a democracy in the iron islands.
The Lords elect the King of the Iron Isles, not the people, it’s more like a Republic or better phrased an „Elecorate“.
@@Swiss_femboy no they dont when they introduced euron iron born were having an election only by saying aye aye🤣
@@kingK2001 but that is in the books Not? there are not enough people seen in the series taking part in the election to be part of the bigger population (I believe in the books every man with a ship can be a candidate? but can every man with a ship vote?)
@@Swiss_femboy yes the captains and the kings can vote and everyone is a king upon their ship. Also
In Rome it was only the wealthy aristocracy who owned land that could vote on laws and be elevated to Consul and that's still a democracy
@@wisdommanari6701 rome was a Republic, not a democracy, You’re only a democracy if the people can vote on laws. Switzerland is a democracy for an example, and Athens at The times of Perikles was a democracy. Rome and for a modern example the USA are Republics. Rome was an oligarchical Republic. There are many forms of „vote based“ governments for lack of a better term but they are all different wich is the reason we have different terms for them.
you should make a list about the best moments, so we wont just remember the madness and stupidity (as Tywin said), but the things why we liked the show
Yeah if this video does well I can do the flip side
I suppose it would be a only season 1-4 related Video. :D
@@leone.6190 definitely
@@leone.6190 There are good moments even in the worst seasons, like hardhome, battle of the bastards and Brienne being knighted always put a smile on my face :)
@@ironvicho20 how is the battle of the bastards "good"? (Have you not seen this very video) It was sometimes a visual spectical, yeah somewhat (if you can look over the a little over the top cgi animations) but it is in it self pretty devoid of logic and thus pretty anticlamatic. Hardhome was done well, but it sticks out, rather because it being surrounded by questionable to even infuriatingly stupid things. Brienne being knighted is nice, but It could have been better for her, also in combination of her getting ridd of the accusation of being responsible for Renlys death. So I also found it pleasing but not as great as I could have imagined it. So I'd say those things were okay, If you'd take them out of the whole picture.
Great list! I was surprised John telling Ghost to leave after the Battle of Winterfell didn't make the list but then again there are so many moments to choose from.
Dany becoming the Mad Queen was the worst moment for me because it had such broad consequences based on absolutely nothing. It was surreal to watch. I kept thinking it was a vision.
also, now the dinasty of the targaryens are gone. and literally its the most important family of got, basically all star with them it doesnt make sense at all
Dumb and Dumber could have killed two birds with one stone by showing Bran intentionally warging Dany to drive her mad, thereby enabling him to take the throne.
This didn't bother me at all because the show foreshadowed this from the very beginning. This actual was one of those things that wasn't something random they decided to do. There's hints throughout all the seasons and several moments which indicate that she has the same Targaryean madness running through her veins.
@@SPRVLN27 There's no indication that she would go mad and burn all of king's landing to the ground with an indiscriminate fire bombing campaign across each and every street against civilians. She killed slavers, noblemen who collectively crucified children, and soldiers that were given the choice to bend the knee or die and chose death. There is no indication that she would just kill hundreds of thousands of innocents who are surrendering when she could have just flown directly to the red keep, which is where the person who killed Missandie/her current enemy was.
I’m just curious what Gendry said to Dany?
G: “We are being attacked by the undead and need your help”
D: “Where are they at?”
G: “Um.... North of the wall?”
I also love that in season 1, the journey to the Wall takes at least a good week on horseback from Winterfell. Gendry ran that distance in like 20 minutes.
@@rkah6187 Well they were north of the wall in an undisclosed distance (days?) Gendry had to run to the wall not Winterfell. Either way the easiest way to fix it was to bring a crow with them. It was established when the Nights Watch went to the Fist of the First Men, they brought crows with them to relay trouble to the wall, but Sam messed up and didn't send them before he escaped.
@@RashaKahn Okay, fair enough. Still unrealistic and frankly dumb. As you said, having a raven with them or even Bran watching over them would have been logical.
@@RashaKahn Gendry had to run to the wall, where he would then need to write out a note (is he even literate?) and send it to Dany at Dragonstone on a raven (unless ravens can be told where to go in GOT, Gendry sure got lucky that one decided to fly to Dragonstone).
The distance from the wall to Dragonstone is upwards of 2000 miles according my internet sleuthing and even if we shorten that distance by 500 miles as the raven flies, we are still talking about a small bird making that trip faster than a fighter jet would. Then you have to account for Dany's 1500 mile plus flight back to our hero's north of the wall.
My god what terrible writing. The entire thing is just so laughably dumb if you put even the slightest amount of critical thinking into it.
@@BlyGuy as I said they would be bringing crows with them north of the wall, like the Nights Watch did when they went to The Fist of the First Men. That crow would warn them at the Wall. From there they could relay to where Dany is, but if she expected them to need help she would be at the wall. But no, bad writing screwed these scenes up too.
This story and its characters were so well written at one point where I genuinely mourned characters like they were real, I genuinely empathized with them as if they were actual people in a real world. Everything made sense, it wasn't just a story; it was a complete other world. Actually heartbreaking the potential
I seriously still can’t fathom rushing a show where the studio is giving you all the time and budget you need. Should be a creators dream
At the last few episodes of season 8 I wanted to punch the TV I almost did
@@jcee5266 Could it be that D&D are just corporate puppets that just bent over and obeyed when their corporate masters told them to kill the show? Nah, right?