No Ban List CEDH Gameplay | Golos vs Mairsil vs Rograkh/Silas vs Tymna/Thrasios

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  • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
    @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому +12

    Use code POGPWPDEC60 for 60% off your first box at strms.net/PlayingWithPowerMtgFactorDecemberYT60

  • @D0omsday779
    @D0omsday779 Рік тому +716

    This is what CEDH looks like to people that don't like CEDH.

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy Рік тому +4

      Hahahaha absolutely!

    • @bryanlincks8323
      @bryanlincks8323 Рік тому +5

      100%

    • @MTG_Ronin
      @MTG_Ronin Рік тому +12

      Your comment resolves!!!!

    • @Bjerr
      @Bjerr Рік тому +2

      @@MTG_Ronin Was the stack empty tho?

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Рік тому +17

      @@Bjerr The comment has split second and can't be countered or targeted while it's on the stack.

  • @paulmcclain642
    @paulmcclain642 Рік тому +135

    Zack: “Pregame action: Gemstone Caverns, exiling…Dockside Extortionist.”
    Table: “Ok sounds good gg let’s shuffle up.”

  • @corey397
    @corey397 Рік тому +291

    PWP - "Let's do a no ban list!"
    Zack - "Someone say turn 2?"
    Also Zack - casually Gemstones Dockside for the memes.

    • @vulkan5790
      @vulkan5790 Рік тому +22

      That wasn’t even for memes! He literally didn’t need it.

    • @zealot2147
      @zealot2147 Рік тому +4

      the only way it would be mana positive is if the golos player dumped 3 or 4 cheap artifacts, and even THEN in long run it wasnt good enough

    • @severinschmid6264
      @severinschmid6264 Рік тому +6

      Let's not forget that obsolete tainted Pact, he already milled his whole library :D

  • @Starkipraggy
    @Starkipraggy Рік тому +91

    my favourite part is when zack said "it's winning time!" and won all over the table

  • @alexkonz7935
    @alexkonz7935 Рік тому +162

    Zack really went full anime villain on this one.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Рік тому +3

      Well, he is playing Mairsil, who is an MtG villain, so...

  • @embergeos
    @embergeos Рік тому +129

    10:34 WIN ATTEMPT THWARTED??? 2 people haven’t gotten to draw yet! This format is wild, I love it

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Рік тому +4

      We haven't even reached the turn 0.5 flash hulk win zone yet

  • @windy7820
    @windy7820 Рік тому +112

    Ah yes, I love watching 100-card singleton Vintage.

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman Рік тому +16

      This is worse than that. Vintage players get a maximum of 1 commander, which they must always pay 3 extra for and can only play once. These fine gentlemen got 3.

    • @fabioarturospada4178
      @fabioarturospada4178 Рік тому +9

      @@Frommerman It's also why the heavy mulligans aren't as punishing here. Your starting hand size is 10 is you have partners and lutri.

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso Рік тому +4

      Canadian higlander (is the name of what you are refering to) is way more fun cause it has a point sistem

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Рік тому +23

    I am convinced they played until Zack didn’t win.

  • @Jay15199
    @Jay15199 Рік тому +125

    I love the no ban list games, but I wish someone would use the opportunity to build a unrestrained stax list to keep the turbo lists in check.

    • @alexzander7629
      @alexzander7629 Рік тому +45

      I agree but sadly Stax is just to slow. With so many ways to cheat out powerful cards and combos in such a short time span, the chance of the Stax player having anything set up in time is super low

    • @nebDDa
      @nebDDa Рік тому +24

      Nobody is brave enough to make a braids cabal minion deck

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Рік тому +9

      Turbo is so much more lucrative with the Moxen.

    • @energeticgorilla
      @energeticgorilla Рік тому +6

      @@nebDDa it really just isn’t as good as it seems in cedh. it was banned for being unfun, not necessarily for its power. in cedh the plethora of 0 and 1 drops means it will set your opponent behind a teeny bit, but it wont really destroy a game.

    • @Jay15199
      @Jay15199 Рік тому +1

      I agree with everyone in the thread. Turbo is the more practical list, given moxen and other broken cards, but it makes the decks' diversity more homogenous.

  • @koba163
    @koba163 Рік тому +62

    "Can we just keep playing until someone but Zack wins?"

    • @bgeda
      @bgeda Рік тому

      It’s hoe their regular banlist games go too haha

    • @chocolateking1143
      @chocolateking1143 Рік тому +2

      LOL he was just playing solitaire.

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Рік тому +12

    CEDH shows how important turn order is in deciding who wins.

  • @paulgoodridge2269
    @paulgoodridge2269 Рік тому +12

    I love it with games like these that prove why these cars were banned in the first place, just a bit too much for the format.

  • @anthonybuck4864
    @anthonybuck4864 Рік тому +19

    Countering that Summoners Pact was such a bad move it hurts me, if he had just countered the incoming Flash he would have effectively taken him out of the game

  • @smlvalentine
    @smlvalentine Рік тому +5

    Love these videos, especially the NBL ones. Thank you for getting these together.

  • @Its109TheGamer
    @Its109TheGamer Рік тому +2

    There's not a lot of no ban list cedh on youtube, so I'm glad to see you guys put a video up on it!

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG9777 Рік тому +11

    Mairsil putting in work for a commander I don't see anymore

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Рік тому +1

      we didn't see mairsil though XD

  • @OzDawg1333
    @OzDawg1333 Рік тому +33

    No ban list cEDH is just so sick hahaha I never realized how op Griselbrand is in this format. Also was surprised to only see one time vault win!

    • @canno93
      @canno93 Рік тому +12

      There were two time vault wins. One with Zack and Griselbrand and one with Chad and Golos

    • @jgroen5545
      @jgroen5545 Рік тому +1

      You can remove the "in this format" part of your sentence and it will still be true.

  • @martynass
    @martynass Рік тому +8

    Thank you PWP for doing these! There are a lot of people who are questioninga ban list and various cards from it, claiming half of the banlist is irrelevant. This is a great presentation, that everything in banlist is relevant 😂

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Рік тому +1

      everything is a stretch, no one played coalition victory or balance :(

    • @donaldduck6790
      @donaldduck6790 Рік тому

      Apart from sundering titan lol

  • @Simonk_6
    @Simonk_6 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for another one of these!

  • @mrmrmeta3698
    @mrmrmeta3698 Рік тому +18

    Always brightens my day to see playing with power videos

  • @RGCDTB
    @RGCDTB Рік тому +4

    This is the first time I felt like I never needed to know what people were drawing I'd look at opening hands and be like oh so you're going to win

  • @smlvalentine
    @smlvalentine Рік тому +1

    Okay - had to comment again: this video is such a gift!! It just keeps going!!

  • @tntkaboomsky7427
    @tntkaboomsky7427 Рік тому +6

    Ayo a Lutri video??? Now this is gonna be good!

    • @paulgoodridge2269
      @paulgoodridge2269 Рік тому +1

      There's a reason why that card was banned and commander. A free 101 cards for having those two colors is a bit much.

  • @Darkogazza
    @Darkogazza Рік тому

    These are far and away my favorite videos. Glad you guys don't do them too often because they're so ridiculous, but I still love seeing just how unhinged this game gets.

  • @ChrisMcGiggity
    @ChrisMcGiggity Рік тому +1

    Woooo grixis!! Let's gooooo!
    Definitely wana see more no ban list this was great to watch

  • @Xplayer007
    @Xplayer007 Рік тому +1

    Nice to see a true no holds barred pod!

  • @Xerxaxify
    @Xerxaxify Рік тому +16

    Thanks for the 5 games! I love watching no ban list commander! Great video all together.

  • @madazander
    @madazander Рік тому +5

    These games are wild! Absolutely love seeing these videos every now and then. But it is also a really good showing for why these cards are banned lol

  • @Jensees901
    @Jensees901 Рік тому

    Holy cow, this was insane haha! Love it.

  • @UruzzTyrsson
    @UruzzTyrsson Рік тому +1

    That was absolutely awesome to watch.

  • @taidokax7562
    @taidokax7562 Рік тому +1

    What I have been waiting for!

  • @pollywop6339
    @pollywop6339 Рік тому +2

    Definitely need to do more of this every now and then

  • @nintendocal5767
    @nintendocal5767 Рік тому +1

    Another excellent episode!

  • @AnomAnomMTG
    @AnomAnomMTG Рік тому

    The fact that it just goes "he cast a he cast a" and all of them were the exact same tone and cadence is hilarious to me

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Рік тому +1

    Wow someone had a good day!!!! Nice!

  • @089Memo90
    @089Memo90 Рік тому +1

    What an episode !!! 🔥♥️

  • @Cavemanconnman
    @Cavemanconnman Рік тому +3

    I love no ban list cedh. So much fun!

  • @patriciopoirrier3287
    @patriciopoirrier3287 Рік тому +2

    Love this channel. CEDH Magic is just amazing 👌🏻

  • @Pyroshax
    @Pyroshax Рік тому +2

    Very powerful stuff! I think I'd like to see what CEDH would look like with, not necessarily NO banlist, just exploring some cards on the banlist that people don't have a good idea how they'd function in a CEDH environment. Golos + Karakas was a more interesting take than reanimator turbo. In the outro, it's mentioned that "many of us are so far removed that we don't realize just how powerful these cards really are in practice". Every once and a while, yeah, we'll see someone say Griselbrand should be unbanned, but I don't think many people at ALL would argue that mox+black lotus should be unbanned. This episode, while an entertaining showcase of banned cards in its own right, is certainly no rebuttal to those who say cards like primeval titan or coalition victory should be unbanned. I'd like to see what CEDH looks like when allowed to stay in-between legacy and vintage, rather than just full-blown vintage.

  • @garrettwilson2624
    @garrettwilson2624 Рік тому

    yippe, needed some commander content

  • @Magsz_
    @Magsz_ Рік тому +1

    “You know what…let’s go into the next game” 😂😂😂

  • @Sliplinerr
    @Sliplinerr Рік тому +6

    I would be interested to see this with a stacks deck to see if they can actually ever take a choke hold on the game or if it is just too fast

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Рік тому +2

    No ban list is so dirty! Gotta love it 😉

  • @MintyMagicMTG
    @MintyMagicMTG Рік тому

    Geez Ryan’s hand/first two turns in game two are insane

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Рік тому +4

    The thing I love the most about these no banlist games is that I can shove them in the face of everyone whining about banlists. 🙃

    • @chocolateking1143
      @chocolateking1143 Рік тому

      Agreed. Some people literally don’t understand if the cards were not banned it’s a turn 1-2 clock non stop. Lol

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Рік тому

      I think people are mostly contesting whether cards like biorhythm or coalition relic should be banned - not moxes and time vaults.

  • @Joshua-no3vh
    @Joshua-no3vh Рік тому +1

    That third game when he went to 4, i was so wishing someone was running a shock or lightning bolt to copy with lutri lol

  • @eamonworden4369
    @eamonworden4369 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see some banned commanders like Griselbrand or Emrakul, maybe even in a regular vid with the special rule being any commanders?

  • @cooldes4593
    @cooldes4593 Рік тому +1

    Zack with the HAT TRICK +1

  • @sorafowler4497
    @sorafowler4497 Рік тому +1

    I want more of this!

  • @SimoneCasuSaber
    @SimoneCasuSaber Рік тому

    God this format is so absurdly fun ahah

  • @jayceehampton8031
    @jayceehampton8031 Рік тому +1

    Another No-Ban List Commander game?! Let us freaking GO!!!

  • @chronics23
    @chronics23 Рік тому +1

    I love no ban lists games so much

  • @alemorikec
    @alemorikec Рік тому +5

    These are an absolute blast to watch.

  • @MrDancingrobots
    @MrDancingrobots Рік тому +1

    The hardcast Fierce Guardianship, that was spicy

  • @harrisonlake9506
    @harrisonlake9506 Рік тому

    So much fun to watch, if i could afford idd make these decks

  • @maxmustermann1111
    @maxmustermann1111 Рік тому

    This is the ultimate: "Here is why fast mana is stupid and a banlist is good" video :D

  • @Lets_go_lesbians
    @Lets_go_lesbians Рік тому +1

    Hit em with the coalition victory

  • @didiez8678
    @didiez8678 Рік тому +1

    I loooove the « no banlist » soooo much !!!

  • @WiiTara
    @WiiTara Рік тому +2

    Amazing

  • @tking5218
    @tking5218 Рік тому +2

    Moxen with Yawmoth's Bargain and Grislebrand is just ridiculous. Makes Ad Nauseum and Necropotence decks look like child's play

  • @smitchy657
    @smitchy657 Рік тому +1

    That was ridiculous! 🤣

  • @jonaswilliams9755
    @jonaswilliams9755 Рік тому

    The Coalition Victory on the side is very funny.

  • @pepperonization
    @pepperonization Рік тому

    Zack is on FIIIREE!

  • @keller3225
    @keller3225 Рік тому

    Just here to say I like seeing NBL content

  • @0k819
    @0k819 Рік тому +1

    honestly if this taught me anything about the banlist its that thassas oracle should go

  • @hydracollector3588
    @hydracollector3588 Рік тому +1

    you guys should bring this NBL games at least once per month
    we do like this kind of content

  • @thejewishpeople1970
    @thejewishpeople1970 Рік тому +1

    Phillip relly got to play some magic here

  • @johnyedinak1180
    @johnyedinak1180 Рік тому +1

    Thus was amazing

  • @gutsbadguy50
    @gutsbadguy50 Рік тому +2

    So, vintage if countermagic was restricted and life payments mattered even less.

  • @edwardrodriguez9624
    @edwardrodriguez9624 Рік тому +1

    Tbh this just shows the power of Thassa's Orcale Consultation combo. That even at the peak with no banlist its stil by far objectively the best wincon in commander

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Рік тому

      Flash hulk is stronger - it can win turn 0 instant speed. This is a very small sample size of games.

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 Рік тому

      @@wchenful time vault + key is actually the strongest combo in the game

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Рік тому

      @@voluntarism335 Why is it the strongest combo in the game? It requires two pieces to be resolved at sorcery speed, and 4 mana total to activate. In comparison, Flash combo is 2 mana at instant speed and can be cast t0 using Gemstone Caverns + Spirit Guide before any opponents have even played a land or in response to an opponent's attempt to go off. Also, Flash is blue which means redundant copies can be pitched for Force of Will and Hulk can be tutored for 0 with Summoner's Pact.

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 Рік тому

      @@wchenful you need 4 cards in hand to be able to pull off that turn 0 win, and someone can just force of will/force of negation/their own gemstone caverns + dark Ritual + opposition agent in response

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Рік тому

      @@voluntarism335 That's fine, even without the t0 win, its a 2 card combo at instant speed vs. time vault + key which is a 4 mana sorcery speed combo, where neither piece pitches to force. It's straight up weaker.

  • @kif3921
    @kif3921 Рік тому +1

    Saw a 17min vid and thought oh so not much different from normal, boy was I wrong.

  • @davidpabst8638
    @davidpabst8638 Рік тому

    FINALLY!!!! Yeeees

  • @phillipspeers9140
    @phillipspeers9140 Рік тому +3

    Would like to see a Leovold list in no ban cEdh

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Рік тому +1

    Also, really funny that Thoracle won so many games XD

  • @bryanlincks8323
    @bryanlincks8323 Рік тому +2

    I blinked and missed it all

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ Рік тому

    That was really fun. What the heck!
    (What about cEDH but silver border cards are legal? There are some pretty busted Un-cards.)

  • @wesleymclain9146
    @wesleymclain9146 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love the no ban list games, they're pretty flashy. I'll see myself out.

  • @maku175
    @maku175 Рік тому

    That's right Chad you take that mantle from Zack

  • @LhynkalTheFool
    @LhynkalTheFool Рік тому +1

    I love how ridiculous the matches were, everyone entombing Griselbrand and drawing 30 cards or having 5 mana rocks on turn 2

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Рік тому +1

    Love the no banlist games, when will someone cast Sharazard though lol?

  • @noahvoght8522
    @noahvoght8522 Рік тому +1

    Let’s give it up for the narrator😂

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 Рік тому +1

    Hope to see a turn 1 time vault win

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast Рік тому

    I love how Lutri is there

  • @davidew345
    @davidew345 Рік тому +1

    This is real magic ❤

  • @johnb3427
    @johnb3427 Рік тому +1

    Exxon doesn’t even make GAS ⛽️ this high test 🔥 that’s a circa ‘93 inception player’s style of play. Many busted cards made, and now collecting VALUE with a side of dust

  • @Urros
    @Urros Рік тому

    Griselbrand.
    Fair and balanced!

  • @generic_sauce
    @generic_sauce Рік тому

    With no ban list, the C in CEDH stands for crazy! 🤯

  • @dawidwidera1819
    @dawidwidera1819 Рік тому

    Just like Richard Garfield intended.

  • @tobynorris
    @tobynorris 3 місяці тому +1

    ''Not a single game went past turn 2'' Welcome to the Yugioh experience

  • @freya002YT
    @freya002YT Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @vsorensen5542
    @vsorensen5542 Рік тому +1

    If it's no Ban list I think people are missing a golden opportunity to play Richard Garfield Ph.D

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Рік тому +2

    Might be a bit of a controversial opinion but I feel like No Ban List should also play with the original companion rules

    • @rockdeworld
      @rockdeworld Рік тому

      Personally I think this is better. There’s a lot of old rules in Magic that you could choose to go back to. Keeping it strictly about what’s on the ban list is simple as well as interesting.

  • @joebaumgart1146
    @joebaumgart1146 Рік тому

    I would just use Emrakrull, The Aeons Torn as my commander and equip her with Eldrazi Conscription, Grafted Exoskeleton, and Swiftfoot Boots. Then cast time walk to kill everyone immediately. By using Black Lotus into 3 Dark Rituals, an Eye of Ugin, and forsaken momument with wastes I could bring her out as early as turn 3.
    Also Thassa's Oracle combo. T0 win.

  • @MrPhantomPC
    @MrPhantomPC Рік тому

    Chad playing Golos. Based. RIP pilgrim.

  • @benbarclay4239
    @benbarclay4239 Рік тому

    Why does it feel like phillip was not playing the same game as everyone else lol

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega Рік тому

    Turn 2 win? Still not as fast as that turn 0.5 win with Inalla from a while back. I love watching cEDH.

  • @MindLaboratory
    @MindLaboratory Рік тому +2

    Would love to see turn 1: mox, mana vault, ancient tomb, black lotus, trinisphere. Sit back and laugh.

    • @willhunting139
      @willhunting139 Рік тому

      Imagine someone else just plays time vault with mishra's workship on turn one, turn two, land voltaic key, infinite turns

  • @DerronOfCairon
    @DerronOfCairon Рік тому +1

    GODS GODS GODS GODS

  • @shatterspree4123
    @shatterspree4123 Рік тому +1

    Chad’s decision to not pyro the rhystic made me angry in that last game, but realizing that it was bait was actually really smart. huh.
    Also a mull to 4 where ancestral is bottomed??? What is the reasoning for that??