Is Vintage Warmer still worth it 20 years later?
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- One of the most Classic plugins ever- but is it still worth it 20 years later?
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PSP Vintage Warmer 2. Used it in the mastering chain for all the tracks in the latest TMNT: Shredder’s Revenge videogame (i mixed and mastered), which was nominated for best audio in several big videogame awards. I still love it and use it in 99% of my masters.
After over 10 years of using Vintage Warmer on my bus. I tried a major mix project without it. As soon as I put it back on. The mix just came together. In terms of Glue.... Vintage Warmer is the best plugin for me.
Im using it for almost 20 years as well. Thats only "magical" VST from past era i still use.
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So great to get reacquainted with this old friend. Thank you for reminding me of all that it can do! Haven't used it in a number of years, and the updates are really great too.
Thanks a lot Dom. A video about the Impressor would be great indeed. 🙂
OMG, I never knew the Vintage Warmer had a back control! Thank you so much for your video Dom! This is indeed an all time classic!
I like your enthusiasm! Excellent video :)
14 years for me. It’s been on every mix since 2009 .. Great explanation of how it works!
When I heard Vintage Warmer for the first time I knew I could finally mix “ in the box”…. Without it?.. forget about it. It’s Always there.
Hey Dom.... Thanks trillions for bringing back the Nasty beast back from the ashes.. This really is one of the pinnacle of plug-ins that was ever built in my opinion... Also.. The new additions into the PSP family also sounds great.... Really oblige if you could do a video on the Impresser & the Saturator... Much Love... Cheers :)
Thanks for this video. I now have a much deeper understanding of it and will use it more than I have been so far.
Thank you for this PSP VintageWarmer video. This is a nice reminder of its capabilities.
Hey Dom, thank you very much for your detailed and very impressive video. I must honestly admit that I didn't even know this plugin. I bought it through your link and I'm pretty impressed with how much better my mixes sound now, unbelievable! Thank you very much, that really helped me a lot. Thumbs up and just subscribed to your channel!
Yes Dom, i agree 100%! I am also in love since day one it was released. ❤️
Thank you Dom, you are amazing !
I use this all the time. One of my all time fave plug ins 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I've used it for 20 years as well! An undeniable classic.
Thanks so much for this!
Wow all these years I was only using the drive and high and low knobs only. Thank you for this eye opening video for all the things it can do !
It’s a superb plug-in! And has many hidden features indeed! Knee control is the 💣
I used this plugin so much back in the day. It was the key to all my guitar sounds. I’d love to get it again!
Dom!, YOU ARE THE MAN DUDE! I purchased the original when it first came out. Your video made me go through the back archives and WALLA! I FOUND IT. Though it is a 32bit plugin, using, jbridge, The Original PSP Warmer version IMHO, supersedes all the current analog, warmers, and saturation VST'S Currently on the market. Thank You for re-introducing me back to one of my most beloved plugins. I had forgotten how great and useful this plugin was, or should I say Is! It will be on every Musical Track that I create, Henceforth.
This plugin and the very first iteration of T-Racks were the very first plugins I ever bought back in 2002. I still love the Vintage Warmer!
Vintage Warmer was the first plugin I ever purchased, back in the Cakewalk days. I'm sure it has appreciated in value now (being vintage) and I could sell it for a fortune!! :)
Thanks for this. I haven't produced for a few years now, but studied music Tech / production / sound engineering and used it ALL THE TIME on every track about 15-20 years ago on ans OLD Cubase. Now back into it on an upgraded to Win 10 and Cubase 11 and wanted to see if I get still get this again, and as you said if still holds it's own. This sold me!! Cheers. 🤟
Well Done My Brother! Blessings.
PSP has been making superb plugins for years!
Thanks Dom, for another great review 😎 I always look forward to your posts especially cubase 🙏 keep it up brother
I got PSP Vintagewarmer the day it was released and it still has a place. Absolutely worth it. Great review too!
Great video on a great plugin! Been a while since I used it, should bring it back out
New sub! Nice video! Crazy that it still sounds as good as contemporary analog modeling techniques. Waves fell out of my new install, but Vintage Warmer is a keeper. I only wish they’d implement optional gain compensation. Also. I want that t-shirt 😂
Omg, omg and once again...OMG! You made soooo big smile on face with this video because you said exactly the same what I think and how I use Wintage Warmer almost 15 years! Nobody talks about this amazing plugin and I'm so happy you made this video. And watching this I found that we use exactly the SAME crossover frequencies (arround 5,4..5,6 kHz and 70Hz) . Haha :) . Just amazing!
Hahaha great minds think alike! 🙌🏼
@@DomSigalas thank you! ☺️
I've also been using PSP VIntageWarmer since the first version of it -- probably my first PSP plugin (and I have all their plugins) after their original MixPack (and maybe StereoPack). It's probably been on pretty much every project I've done in one context or another. For years it was a constant thing on my mix bus, specifically to simulate mixing to tape.
Polish power! I'm still use them. Psp vm 2 it's absolutely top 1 on my mixdown, master track! All the best!
+1 20-years WV user 🙂
Great plugin, very musical, top quality code.
It's worth spreading word about PSP.
Cheers.
Thanks for another excellent video. Not long ago I discovered your channel and like it very much. IMHO there is kind of madness in trying to lower values old plugins... But very simple thing... Lots of great records which we are still finding sounding great were done using also those old plugins like Waves, PSP and others so why they won't be still great? ;)
I remember this plugin! Man good old times ❤️
Still use it man! Love it for heavier stuff!
Fantastic plugin:) thanks for the review. I prefer PSP over waves for sure. Vintage Warmer is a secret weapon for many producers. Including me ;)
If there is a classic in audio plugin world this is it. I also used it 20 years ago and was amazed.
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I Started to beta-test it in 2003. In my opinion, it is a must have plug-in for Drums: I use it on Kick Drum, Overs, Toms, Room Ambi Mic, also on some Electric Guitars and Bass Guitars. We have just completed 20 years of partnership.
After 20 year, it's now really a vintage plugin:)
More PSP plugins we need here :)
this used to be my go to plugin in the old day.. i've been using CLA Mixdown in the last few years for the character...
could you please help us to make a video for similar/substitute for this beast vintage warmer? you ROCKS Dom!
It’s been close to two decades for me as well. PSP write some great plugins. Their E27 EQ is an extremely musical, as is their NobleQex and OldTimerMB.
PSP are the masters of analog phatness in the digital domain.
Time flys... we are reminicing about vintage plugins now!
Nice - I would love to see a compare of this versus something like Magnetic II.
I love your videos, thank you for all the useful information Dom and your great delivery of fun new ways to use Cubase. I was wondering, do you know if there is anyway to set the default volume level for new tracks somehow? For instance everytime I create an instrument track I want it to be say -11 in volume.
Hey Jonas! No automatic way I’m afraid- it’s very easy to set with the pre-gain though!
I’ve used it, too, and still use MixSaturator2 by PSP in my Mastering all the time!
I remember using it when it came out. It was like magic. So analog for real. No cliché.
It had that warmth not in terms of mid-bassy frequency response, but like a Scott receiver from the 70s and 80s with good paper cone speakers kind of warm, big and cohesive sound.
No other plugin sounds like it. This modern version 2 is even better. It just has THAT sound that is hard to put into words but when you hear it, you know that's exactly what you were looking for. 🥴
I think the first one I bought in 2002 - 2004, love version 2 and I do have it installed but I have not given it any love for a long long time, time to bring it back...
I also had the plugin since it was released, but later sold the licence. Very simple distortion probably just a waveshaper, just what was possible at the time with the available CPU power.
I use this with almost everything. If I push my luck any further, I'll start using it with my food!
Classic plugin, love it on Moog Bass!
Got the Vintage Warmer when it came out. It still sits on my mix bus for every mix session in multimode with FAT on - ahead of the final limiter, but it probably does most of the limiting to be honest. The final limiter just does maybe 1 or 2 dB gain reduction and all the usual checks and balances. I'd be lost without it.
Thanks Dom! A QUESTION? You mentioned in passing the order of plug-ins on your master buss & said: “before my Limiter, the last plug-in”.
I have been putting a brick wall limiter as my First p.I. ?? Greetings from Oz, pierre
pretty much everyone likes the VW2 ^^ but i use it only for bass and vocals, not on BUS or main BUS, all time fav, together with a good pulltec eq
I'd love to see how you use the impressor / saturator
What about PSP Infinistrip? I have the vintage warmer and use it mainly on buses, but moreso for mastering. I was thinking about getting the infinistrip as a go-to for mixing. Any thoughts?
Hey Dom, I got one for you: Waves Scheps 73. I achieve a similar effect of adding analog warmth by pushing the drive knob. Waves is also having a sale, $30 for the plugin, it's part of my secret sauce.
Andrew Schepps _Really really knows his stuff_ re: mastering audio
How would you compare this to the TC electronic MD4? You also like that one a lot (as do I!). Thanks!
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Got it today (they have a 50% off sale). Awesome plugin :) if you have it you think how was it possible to mix without it 😜 i didn’t hear so much about this company but since I bought the Oldtimer MB I always had an eye on the them! They had some nice sales and I bought the psp infini strip and the saturater too 😜 haha oh my gosh, I have 423 plugins but I’m only mixing with psp! 😎 the infini strip is just f*** awesome because it’s based on all their nice stuff (comps, eqs and saturater).
You just gave away one of my top secrets for years.lol
Our friend, Ioanna, introduced me to PSP vintage warmer, 15 years ago, when I was trying to make a radio jingle sound GOOOD.
She also said you used to use it daily, so I was convinced 😉
Wow for real? Hahaha didn’t know that- yes I was using it all the time for radio productions!
Im new to downloading VST's and im strugglign to acess the 80s drum kit you made even with the video do you have a contact I can get you at
Hello Master!
What is the song playing at the end of the video?
Hugs from Brazil!
remember: WAVES algorithms like LA2A, 1176, L1/L2, Q10, RenComp, RenVox, etc. are also very old - but gold!
an old code doesn't have to be bad...
Waves are number 1 in this time and now.
RVox the best ever
Waves L1 and L2 are still amazing. I bought them years ago in the Gold Bundle. I never upgraded them past V9 but still work on Windows 11.
Would you say that PSP Vintage Warmer 2 would work well for modern mixing genres like hip-hop and R&B?
Hi Dom, This Vintage Warmer is really good :-), but could you maybe present your vocal effects chain too? Do you gate the distortion effect on the male vocal? Or change the level between clean vocal and distorted vocal manually? What distortion effects do you use on this male vocal in your song?
I’ve done this! ua-cam.com/video/fzMQhdNus10/v-deo.html
@@DomSigalas Hi Dom, I saw all your videos bur this video is unique, because I never heard before a male vocal in your music production 😊. May I assume that this “distortion” app used in your male vocal is the “Abbey Road Saturator” ?
I still use the PSP Classic Q. Its an emulation of "Early Neve eq" according to PSP page
Can you cover other 20 year old plugins? OhmBoyz Delay is still my go to delay!!! 😎
I brought the 6 PSP sound collection plugins 20 ages ago. But anytime these doesn't work any longer. That was so annoying.. I should rebuild a windows XP PC and install them again for some sampling. The red analog and green drums collection was famous.
This PSP collection has the most and best complete 80th of all plugins ever created. Damn!
Oh my first day was the Supertrack from Gerhard Lehrling. Notator in Atari, Pro Tools on Mac 1995, then Logic on PC XP. And I programmed my own complete DAW on Atari. That was fun!
Hey Roger! Have you updated? Every single PSP plug-in works great here on Windows 10 and they’re VST3 too so future proof! Even the classics! Go to your account and download the latest versions I’m sure they will work 😀
@@DomSigalas Hey, the Plug-Sound-Free Ultimate edition was completely for free. Does anyone have perhaps a link to it?! Here you can see the a YT video about..
ua-cam.com/video/s5TnSxSpba0/v-deo.html
@@DomSigalas yes thanks I will do.
Did you own the PlugSound free ultimate collection from UV? This is also plug I am searching for a long time. Was completely free. But disappears some years ago.
Is psp vintage warmer 2 as good?
I really just don't care for modern plugins. Every time I try new stuff, I don't like it and feel like I'm wasting time. The oldies were so good I have never felt something was missing. I do feel the PSP is missing cos I don't own it but did use it many moons ago and it is so nice. Also wish I had some McDSP too.
I feel like video after video is which limiter, which clipper and Fabfilter this, or that.
I literally never chop more than 0.5-1db off with a limiter. I use it to chop any wild peaks down and that is it, I never go driving for volume but feel like half the music tech videos now are all about which limiter can be pushed most.
This was nice to see a fantastic oldie getting a look in.
Another great set is Waves Renaisance. The EQ has the best Q curve. The R Comp is amazing. There are so many oldies that are killer and even better the interfaces don't take up 60% of your screen real estate.
mix finalise 2 , boom!
Why when when you have The Oven- ssl saturator - black box- softube saturation for free - Soundtoys ???
PSP was my first PlugIn ever i buy over 20 years 🤣
Please make i Video about Sonnox Inflator and Limiter 😁❤️😁
I remember I had a cracked version of this back in 2004 and every time I tried to use it it would crash cubase.... so I never really got to use it properly... I think I’m going to buy it after seeing this video..... psp plugins are so good ive got a few
Is a plug in like Vintage Warmer worth it? Yes, Yes, and Yes. It does use the Ilok dongle (only drawback) if one didn’t have to use the Ilok dongle I would purchase it.
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🔷Is there a way to keep the volume the same so you could really hear the difference in quality between the wet and dry signal? Is that level matching?
It doesn’t have auto gain compensation but it’s very easy to do as I show on the video. To be honest, the way I use the plug-in I barely miss it :)
@@DomSigalas a plugin without auto gain is a sin
@@tinkletink1403 20 years and counting with happy customers and killer mixes- I honestly couldn’t care less :) yes it would be nice to have though ;)
@@DomSigalas true ... but a bit lazy i think not to implement it considering the price for upgrade
I love this plugin, its a little Buggie con Cubase tho, but any plugins its buggie at Cubase lol
Have you tried the latest version? Indeed some older versions were buggy but PSP fixed the issues :) I only use VST3 in Cubase of course!
I used to use this plugin many years ago but stopped. I don't think I was using it properly to be honest. I might give a second go at it hopefully with some amazing results.
Thanks!!!!
Give it a go again! It’s worth it!
@@DomSigalas I sure will. Thanks!
Great video. What's the band and song in this video?
It’s one of my demo songs :)
@@DomSigalas Sounds great!
@@DomSigalas What's it called?
It's very expensive, does PSP ever have it on sale? I just wanted to know
wearing'los pollos' the shirt, are you a friend of the cartel? ;)
oooo i used it for 3 years
Reminds me of the IK multimedia “ONE” plugin. Check it out.
Love ONE! It’s fantastic!
@@DomSigalas I just got me the vintage warmer. I couldn't resist. thanx.
Still louder when you tried level matched. is it that hard to level my by hear. its easy to feel when something is louder, even with RMS higher, peak reduced, saturation, compression.. anyway good stuff. take care
He already said he knows it sounds good which is why he didn't bother to level match by perceived loudness. I'll take his word for it considering he's been using it for 20 years!
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In my opinion this is one of the examples in which digital is superior to analog. Thanks Dom. Its a pity PSP does not have a subscription mode. Native Apple.
Level matching is not the panacea so many suggest it is. Sure, it’s helpful sometimes, but I rarely toggle bypass when mastering so it doesn’t matter to me. I know what I’m hoping to hear so compensating is both part of the process and always happening in my head. Auto compensation is rarely correct and actually ends up bugging me more than no compensation.
I 100% agree! Indeed, when I first try out a plug-in I do compensate to see what actually happens and for Quality Control. However, I also try to stress this enough: if you know what you’re doing you don’t need to level match. Part of your job is to know your tools !
@@DomSigalas As for matching in mastering, the processes I’m using are SUPPOSED to change the ‘volume’, so comparative levels are meaningless.
VST3?
Yes!
Hey bro te gustan los pollos? I see that you have a t- shirt about it 😎
It’s my favourite restaurant! The owner pays attention to detail!
I also use PSP Vintage Warmer 2 in FL Studio, but when I remove it from my channel, a white image appears on m1
Analog gear has true grit and drive, digital gear sounds neutered and limp. Vintage warmer is a good digital plug-in, but analog is a different level of quality across the board.
We call it the Boomer's OTT here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What band is this?
Sounds like his voice
It’s one of my demos and I am singing it 😂
@@DomSigalas It sounds great.
Just want to shootout the best DAW ever...
wich is FL Studio.
#FLStudioGang.
#FL21isComming
Whatever works for you, man
@@MrBilloven thats right!!
Best DAW is what works for you Osvaldo. But if you’re mixing professionally, there are few DAWs that can do this properly.
@@DomSigalas thanks for the answer Dom, btw i am subscribed to the channel, and love your videos.
$130 for a 20 year old plugin? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way.
Old code still works. It's 50% off now.
This is a joke. You won't level match it? Come on man... 😃
Thanks for your videos, you are special! I wanted to ask you, is there a difference between the PSP VintageWarmer2 and the PSP MasterComp??..maybe the MasterComp is an old version??..Thank you always kindly