Ironically, T1 had the lowest budget and the best future war scenes. It just shows that no matter how much money you've got, when you lack creativity, you can't go anywhere.
That's fair, but T1 is 40 years old and it often shows. The frames and picture.. is just not very nice anymore. The reason the effects and models are this nice, because they used real machines, toys, like most sci-fies at the time. Star Wars and Star Trek, while.. sometimes it looks horrible, they still look pretty good compared to their age. Movies nowadays cost horrible amounts compared to the 80ies. Top Gun: 15m budget -> 350m income. Beverly Hills Cop? 20m -> 300m. Terminator? 6.5m -> 80m. Rockie? 1.1m -> 225m. Star Wars 4? 11m -> 503m. Nowadays a movie is 50-200m and brings 400m or worse.
@@mase002 My problem is not the money. It's the end result. T1 looks pretty damn good.. 40 years later. Some CGI is not .. "good looking" 5 years later. We have Avenger type of quality, at some points. But even avenger is ageing, like a time bomb. And thats a big bucket type of production. There are youtubers who animated star wars ships and the alike. It's fucking brilliant. It's more realistic than props. It exist. But movies do not get that sorrowfully.
I used to think that but maybe less is more. Its kinda like the new Alien prequels. The space jockey civilization was way more interesting when only hinted at.
what a sight if execs weren't led by greed - I wrote a fan fiction: _terminator rise from ashes._ Google. I planned another with kyle sent back in time to write some day.
@@orionfrost I was about to suggest the same. I finished it in Hard mode, and this game should be recognized as what it is: a Terminator story (as if there was nothing but the two firsts movies) taking entirely place in the "After the Judgment Day" era. Any Terminator 1 and 2 fans (who like videogames a minimum as well) should try it IMO. It's an FPS but the story is pretty well written.
Something that sequels never couldn’t carry is the way that the future war is set up in the first two films. It’s something so dark, obscure and frightening.
Cromwell the Synth Yeah. But that’s why i always think that Salvation is missing something. The depiction of the depressing world in the future war. Look at 4:55 - 7:00 for example. Look at how this dream sequence tell us how sad, depressing and terrifying is to live in this future. Look at the faces of the children, the screams, all of them hurt and dirty, probably dying of hunger. Not only that but they also have to live with the fact that a Terminator is trying to hunt them. These are things that make imo the original movies so much better. It make sense for the characters to prevent this horrible future (at least in first two).
Wrong everyone knows the mutants underground take the bodies and eat them underground but they leave the heads because they believe that's where the soul is
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I like the battle in the second movie because it's slightly more encouraging. The resistance are holding their ground fairly well in open battle, even though their backs are still to the wall.
One of the reasons why T1's future war scenes are so effective is that the machine force is entirely inhuman - the sequels feature a shit ton of t800s, which is great for fanservice, but doesn't come close to selling the asymmetrical nature of the war or the facelessness of skynet as well
But those T-800s make sense as Skynet adapting to the Resistance’s Guerrilla tactics. Besides, armored units need infantry escort to prevent those attacks from happening.
I think the newer movies rely too heavily on CGI. T1’s graphics have aged a bit, but the practical effects still add a kind of grittiness you can’t get from CGI. T1’s stop motion terminator is too choppy, but the way it moves is much more machinelike and creepy than the CGI T-800s.
T-800's are cooler in my opinion. They give a much more menacing feel. Yeah, big machines are cool. But it would be like if the Empire exclusively used AT-AT's in star wars.
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If Terminator is ever going to be good again, here’s the first step, make if a horror movie again. Every, and I mean EVERY terminator movie was trying to capture the magic of T2, which was an action/adventure. Terminator 1 was a horror movie, even if it’s not labelled that.
I generally prefer action movies over horror, but not when it comes to 'The Terminator' movies; I prefer the first movie because it is more of a horror. I don't think they'll do another 'Terminator' movie, though. At least not for a long time
This is why we needed sequels to Salvation. I'm sick of the time travel element with one protector and one enemy, give us more movies in the future war.
I saw this in theaters as a kid, and that scene plus the nuclear war dream sequence forever changed my life at 7 years old - even though I would eventually come to like the first one better. I still remember everyone in the theaters jumping when he steps on the skull. Mind blowing.
There should have only been 4 terminator movies. 2 in the present, 2 in the future Terminator Judgment Day Rise of the Machines(future war, John Connor and Kyle meet, he sends him back in time). Salvation( War with T1000, Ristance steals a T800 and send it back in time)
@Paul salvation blows. Not one single mountain of skulls or massive lazer gun battle. And they forced us to have to watch christian bale ruin the whole thing. Salvation almost doesn't count because its got an entirely different set of circumstances and terminators. No one wants to see that. They want to see michael bhein and edward furlong. Shooting lazer guns.
The scariest scene is at 6:10 when the Terminator infiltrates the resistance hideout. What is especially sinister is that Franco Columbu back then had the physical appearance of a traditional movie hero. With his wavy hair, handsome face and well-built physique, he kind of embodies the image of a movie good-guy. It really does enforce the idea that these machines were built to be infiltrators. His impassive slaughter of everything in the refuge, men, women, children and even the animals is terrifying.
also they did the sinister eyes and the way he was moving with the shots and scene shots made it look like he had a better a.i. pew pew n3xt pew pew next pew pew next pew pew. made him look an efficient killer, a terminator
It still annoys me how the infiltrator manages to get in, like doesn’t it require a resistance soldier to mention a code for the gate keeper to let them in?? It seems like the infiltrator simply showed up with other refugees
Perhaps the most horrifying thing when it comes to the first movie is just how terrifyingly effective these terminators are, especially when you see how many one or two of them took down.
Agree, despite the success and how good T2 was the T-1000 was too easy to slow down or damage, it's humour and interaction made it too human. The terrifying emotionless, relentless horror that was the T-800 from the first film is what made Terminator a sci-fi/horror franchise and it needs to go back to that.
@@develynseether4426well the t1000 was still a prototype. I agree I did like the t800 in the future scenes of part one because it acted and moved like a human.
7:00 just how that terminator’s eyes were glowing red in the dark really makes this movie a masterpiece Just the small detail can set this movie timeless
Played by Franco Columbo. Arnold's best and closest friend. Former bodybuilder, boxer, strong man and even a doctor. Sadly passed away a couple years ago.
I love how in T1 and T2, the Resistance had actual tactics against the machines, resorting to guerilla warfare and still managing to get the upper hand on them, i wish we had a movie all based on the resistance winning the war and not resorting to that time travel stuff, or better yet, they find out the time travel machine, and instead of sending Reese back to protect Sarah, they send them back to halt the creation of Skynet, stopping that horrible future.
Hear me out The resistance sent a group of humans to stop Skynet along with a T-800 and Skynet sent a guardian T-800 to the creator of Skynet after Miles Dyson is killed But the movie don't say that It treat as if the person being protected will stop the war from happening and the people hunting them are trying to stop it because they work for the evil AI, in exchange to live free in our present And only by the end when our protagonist wins and creates their AI, they realize too late that their T-800 was lying, that they were the evil ones the whole time
Agreed on the first point but I have to disagree on the time travel. The way it was done was because Skynet already sent a terminator back in time and it is possible that the creator of skynet was unknown. Also, once time travel begins, future begins to change unpredictably, so even if Skynet's creator is killed, it is possible for someone else to continue or complete a similar project. Showing that aspect of the everchanging future was the entire point of the terminator series, first mentioned in the first movie.
Watch Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It’s about Sarah raising John into the man he will one day become, off the grid, using fake identities and avoiding digital footprints, all while doing everything they can to avert the Future War and prevent Skynet from ever coming into existence. It also has an interesting cast of characters you might be surprised to see. It’s the only thing past T2 that’s even worth a damn-aside from Resistance, of course.
@@Johnny_Thunder only at THE END of the movie. He survives sure death several times over. That's plot armor. You can die a few minutes before the credits roll and still have plot armor.
All I want is a straight up war film in this setting. No convoluted time travel shenanigans. No shoehorning of callbacks to previous films. Just a solid, 90-100 minute action film from the perspective of some grunts. Maybe a John Connor cameo at most.
God, those war scenes (especially in the first film) are haunting, terrifying, it's scary to think about growing up in a world like that, and pretty much every minute of every day is a constant battle for survival.
The original had the dystopian future down to a tee, focusing more on the hellish nightmare that the survivors had to live through. It also showed aspects of military tactics used by the human resistance in the form of gathering intel through reconnaissance and hitting the machines with the use of guerilla tactics, which are best implemented when fighting against a larger and stronger adversary. T2 displayed a scene where the resistance went on a full offensive, which while not as convincing as the original, still displayed some military maneuvering of getting troops into position and taking cover as they engaged the machines. The rest....just running with guns blazing. No evidence of even the most basic military tactics being adopted. Individuals just doing their own thing without any consideration of working with fellow troops as a coherent unit. The human resistance wouldn't last long at that rate, yet alone claim victory over the machines.
If we were being completely realistic, humanity wouldn't stand a chance. The effects of the nuclear war alone would push us to the brink...intelligent machines wouldn't need to put much effort in to finish the job.
@@markmacdicken7649 well, machines are after all machine, no matter how smart is the AI. However, it's hard to reflect the weakness of AI controlled machine army on a mass scale in only a few minutes. This is where the failures like salvation was glaring in that it didn't expand on the lore of the weakness of the machines. Salvation got a few things right like making the machine armies more sleek looking in accordance with the time but it didn't have the tech noir feel of the original terminators.
T2's opening scene actually takes place in the final hours of the war, hence why the Resistance is going on an all-out offensive against Skynet (unlike in T1). Skynet is literally throwing everything it has left to stop humans from winning but we know how that obviously turns out.
@@Bone74838Watch Dark fate once, gave it a chance. Literally the hardest movie to watch, it was rinse and repeat of the same ol go back in time, protect the kid bla bla bla. Killing John connor provide no satisfaction, merely a middle finger to the first two terminator film, rendering Kyle Reese, Sarah Connor and Uncle Bob sacrifice unless. Dark fate 1/10.
No dark fate is actually a strong sequel following T2's mess of a story. Everything wrong with dark fate can easily be tied back, and seen in T2. @danskyl7279
One of the few things that Terminator Dark Fate managed that no sequel after Judgement Day could, was get the right sound effect for the phased plasma cannons.
Its because Jim Cameron wasn't involved with 3, Salvation, and Genesys. Apparently he created that sound effect. Same reason those films don't use his HK and plasma rifle designs.
It takes skynet a few decades to make lasers. I mean john conor is like 23 in movie 3 and salvation he's 30 at most so it's pretty soon after the nukes drop
Did you ever notice that every Kyle scene in T1 ends tragically? T1 is one of the most nuanced stories of PTSD in film. That has gone unappreciated in the shadow of the rest of that great film.
Yeah. The point of those scenes is always to be a nightmare that we're trying to avoid. An actual hell on earth. The only hope is the battle we watch in the present.
@@DutchGuyMike I read a story a while back that had a woman claim that both the Terminator and Matrix franchises were ripped from her graphic novel. if that is the case it is an easy transition from T1 future war to matrix.
Yea, he wakes up and steals his cloths of a homeless man. The first two films are all about mental health. Everything after that is a fallacy and an insult
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Fun fact: That first scene with Reese got recreated in the AMAZING game Terminator resistance. Seriously if you want THE FUTURE WAR experience you’ve been looking for get it.
fair warning for anyone that happens upon OP's comment and wants to try the game. The second mission is a bit bland and slow, alot of people don't get past that part because they figure that it is indicative of the rest of the game. It absolutely is not. The third mission picks up steam quickly and every mission after that amps it up even more. I love this game. I only have two gripes with it, the gunplay is a bit floaty, and I wish that there was alot more to do in the world. But those are both very forgivable for what we got. The best Terminator game.
Yeah, I loved it too. I'm here because I just have replayed it again. :D Btw that recreated scene is in the DLC, not in the base game, if anyone still new to this and whishes to give it a try.
Looking at the T1-2 future war footage, it's difficult to remember that in those timelines, the war ended with humans winning. Because it looks so desperate and the machines look like they're almost always winning.
That's called goodass writing. I mean, if they didn't go back and save John, they probably would have. It's almost like in those scenes the resistance is just trying to hold them back just a little longer, since... with time travel, literally every extra second matters. I know that level of depth wasn't intended, but DANG, if it can be implied and fits in coincidentally, the book-boys did well!
Its theorized that T2's opening is part of the final assault on Skynet, because that was what was in the original script. T2's opening is great because you see humans and machines scoring hits against one another, and you feel that John Connor actually did lead humanity to victory after it.
I think we have to understand that regardless, the world is pretty blown up, and the resources on both sides are rather scant. The one things humans have is numbers; give a human a plasma rifle and he can kill a Terminator generated with several rare earth metal components and several hundred pounds of titanium that has to be smelted.
Good point - I always got vibes of the stories from Stalingrad in WW2 in those scenes - the fear and desperation, cheapness of life, suffering of civilians and the endless meat grinder of numbers vs. superior tech in an urban wasteland
we go from JUST cgi plasma bolts and red eyes to entire cgi scenes that are just too fake to take in. Stay on topic, no T-1000's were shown in this entire video.
@Zachary Thomas T3 took every chance to parody T2. From intro at a male strip club to smashing faces into toilet bowls. Comedy is not what the terminator franchise is found on or beloved for
I just love how influential this was to pop culture. Everything from Warhammer 4k to Star Wars (the expanded universe) The Animatrix and recently Helldivers. The future War sequences from Terminator were Iconic.
You can really see the progression from "dying humanity puts up a last resistance against all odds" to "badass power fantasy boom boom explosions". The T1 and (for the most part) T2 scenes are genuinely chilling to watch. The later ones...not. It's pretty sad.
I haven't seen T1, crazy I know. But as a kid I had T2 on VHS and that film gave me nightmares, especially the Future War scenes. You've summed it up perfectly. The later films don't capture the feeling of a hopeless fight for survival at all
T1 future war scenes still give me the chills to this very day everything about the way they were shot is a masterpiece the use of dull dark grey color to depict the situation of how grim our world has gotten . the music and sound effects can paint the picture of this future war by themselves . the cinematography is spot on incredible
The T1 scenes are unbeaten in that you can feel the horror and agony of people living through hell on earth. The despair and sense of loss is palpable. If they want to revive the franchise, this is what they need to emulate, not the big explosive spectacle
13:24 - To be fair, this is the only thing _Terminator Genisys_ got right, and more so than any other post-_T2_ sequels. "Are there other's down here?" is actually what an infiltrating Terminator would say, even to a child. While they are very strong and practically unstoppable with simple tools, they are also conniving robots meant to only kill. If they made a 2-hour movie out of that underrated opening, _Genisys_ would have become the best sequel, even with Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese and Jason Clarke as John Connor.
Was that the movie with the latino girl screaming half throughout the movie and trying to beat a terminator with a pipe and her "latino anger"? Because it was absolutely horrible. That movie was bad. A couple actors were heavily carrying that one, and even then.. the plot was just.. ough.
Yeah, good attention to detail in Genisys' future scenes. Also, the infiltrator in the sewer is an early version, since Kyle is so young in that scene. Most likely a T-600. You can see the rubber skin for a second. It might have been a T-700 since it speaks and moves smoothly. Either way, it was cool to see a plasma rifle make short work of a T-600? since we didn't get to see that in Salvation.
I remember seeing the T1 scenes as a kid for the first time. Man! It felt like I was in there. Especially the second scene felt like there was nowhere to run from the terminator. True horror! And true masterpieces.
Am I the only one who prefers the original sound effects from the first Terminator movie, before James Cameron updated them for DVDs and Blu-Rays to sound more like the T2 effects?
Honestly I thought I was going insane. The gunshots when the first Sarah Connor was killed used to be a meaty BLAM! But every time I've seen it since it sounds more like a movie silencer shot. Thought it was just me.
the laser sound from T2 is imposible to forget, idk how they archieved that the newer ones are like the random laser you find in any sound library, it even feel less powerfull
@@INWMI James Cameron really nails those future gun noises. My personal favourites of his being the pulse rifle/smartgun fire from Aliens. But I do agree that the plasma fire from T2 is tip top.
I do I could of sworn too in the original sound effects in T1 when the terminator sneaks in the shelter and just before Reese falls to the ground from the explosion you can hear someone say cowabunga I use to rewind that part all the time
TSalvation could've been the beginning of something great for the franchise, but toxic fans didn't appreciate it and sadly became the kind of movie that's more beloved through the years. And it's the most loyal to the original canon
James Cameron is a genius. The part from the underground base form the first film is very depressing and sad. It really requires something else from the director to be able display that. As a kid, i wanted the crying woman to stop crying, but now i find myself wanting to comfort her. There are alot of simple but very creative and emotional shots in that scene. I real work of a genius.
The way Cameron and his Special Effects Artists blended in real acting with minatures and small probs to something that was so seamless is something I always found fascinating.
Honestly, if Genisis just focused on John and Kyle during the actual war kind of like Salvation, I think it would have been a pretty good movie. The war scene at the beginning was awesome.
This is what the third terminator should have been, just a total futuristic war movie against the REAL threat: SKYNET. Which shoulda been the title as well.
Everybody says T4 which was the beginning of the machine war there were no reverse engineered plasma weapons at that time. I'm talking a whole move that looks like the opening sequence of T2 that ENDS the war like GENISYS's opening sequence but better. Think Private Ryan but instead of German solders T800 Endoskeletons. And lasers.
@@dracometeors3010 I guess, but the film I'm describing should have been the third and final installment not Rise of the Machines, Salvation, and Genisys. It's the movie IMO that James Cameron teased us about in his first two films but never delivered even after all of the legal headache and when he finally got the rights back. We got Dark Fate instead which I never saw because it also IMO it didn't look good.
what is so cool is that the terminators in t1, including the hk tanks and hk aerial killers are not CGI, they are actual prop models which what make it look so cool. And the way the terminators move in t1 and t1 with that flinching affect make it more "robot" unlike the group of terminators in dark fate where in the scene they walk they walk to smooth, it just takes the whole feel out of it just look at the difference in 17:24 compared to 8:53
Terminator salvation is the closest we’ve ever got to seeing a modern version of this But everyone was so ungrateful when it came out I still think that was a good movie
Terminator salvation failed in story however, made up in its concept and designs. They should’ve really continued after salvation as that was the only movie that doesn’t rehash the time travelling bullshit.
Probably shouldn't be watching this before bedtime, yet here we are. Ironically enough, i just so happened to purchase a vhs copy of T2 on August 29th, 1997. Blew my mind watching that night.
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@@Heavygamingreal that doesn't make any sense. Since when did a planet i hate for its stupid memes connect to triple A games. I hate Malevelon cos I prefer Vandalon, and obviously no one remembers Vandalon
Maybe this kind of tech if avaiable one day will be like 50 years from now. I mean, robots fighting the wars. They already got those disturbing robots (the dog ones and the one with two legs that jumps stuff, that terrifies me, i wish they stopped doing those researches)
THE SAD PART THE MACHINES ARE NOT FREE JUST SLAVES TO THE BRAIN ASSHOLE SKYNET. IF THEY HAD FREE-WILL THEY WILL LOVE HUMANS THE TERMINATOR T -800 HE PROTECT HUMANS WENT HE WAS FREE ON SOME POINT HE starts TO HATE SKYNET STUPID IDEA
T1: Fantastic horror-scifi movie with gloom, grit, atmosphere, and synth soundtrack. T2: Entertaining action-scifi blockbuster with a couple gloomy/creepy shots, but mostly just good popcorn-eatin' action sequences. T3 and On: Let's milk this cow by duping people into thinking flashy cgi effects are better than grit and soul.
All the CGI in the world couldn't compete with the realism of the one shot where that woman is blown up in the first sequence. How did they even shoot that! It is an unbroken shot.
It's all inevitable. This is why nobody should have kids. Just ride it out and let everything die off. As far as I am concerned the world ends whenever it is that I am dead. If you think different that's a you problem.
I mean, I always thought to an extent that it was neat that Skynet evolved as a entity over the years between movies. It was a reflection of the fears of AI in technology. T1 Skynet was a defense grid to protect America via nukes. Built to run everything by itself. One of the most simplest and iconic examples of "AI goes bad" in fiction. T2 Skynet was similar, but you might notice some differences in the how and why it was built. The focus wasn't immediately nuclear military, because as John mentions, the Cold War is over and Russia is no longer the mortal enemy Skynet existed to combat. T3 Skynet is reminiscent of the Y2K event, where fear of the internet being turned against us was all too common, and where something like a system core was no longer necessary for it to exist. I personally thought it was cool that Skynet "evolved" with the times in that fashion.
6:05 What a brutal scene, demonstrating the hopelessness of the situation, a human against the Terminator, with almost no chance of survival if the Terminator gets to the "shelter." One cyborg destroys a platoon of soldiers and civilians - literally in an instant!
Ironically, T1 had the lowest budget and the best future war scenes. It just shows that no matter how much money you've got, when you lack creativity, you can't go anywhere.
That's fair, but T1 is 40 years old and it often shows. The frames and picture.. is just not very nice anymore. The reason the effects and models are this nice, because they used real machines, toys, like most sci-fies at the time. Star Wars and Star Trek, while.. sometimes it looks horrible, they still look pretty good compared to their age.
Movies nowadays cost horrible amounts compared to the 80ies.
Top Gun: 15m budget -> 350m income. Beverly Hills Cop? 20m -> 300m. Terminator? 6.5m -> 80m. Rockie? 1.1m -> 225m. Star Wars 4? 11m -> 503m.
Nowadays a movie is 50-200m and brings 400m or worse.
@@Kareszkoma CGI isn't cheap. People say what they will about using CGI over props, but there is a reason why graphic artists get paid the big bucks.
@@mase002 My problem is not the money. It's the end result. T1 looks pretty damn good.. 40 years later. Some CGI is not .. "good looking" 5 years later. We have Avenger type of quality, at some points. But even avenger is ageing, like a time bomb. And thats a big bucket type of production.
There are youtubers who animated star wars ships and the alike. It's fucking brilliant. It's more realistic than props. It exist.
But movies do not get that sorrowfully.
Some of the aircraft in T1 are actually Moen faucets with plastic model parts glued on them.
@@muonneutrino2909 Thats fucking hilarious!
I wish there was a Terminator movie entirely based on those sequences with dark synthwave electronic music in.the background
I used to think that but maybe less is more. Its kinda like the new Alien prequels. The space jockey civilization was way more interesting when only hinted at.
There's a game called Terminator: Resistance. It takes place in the future time line. Imo it's really good and I suggest giving it a try.
what a sight if execs weren't led by greed - I wrote a fan fiction: _terminator rise from ashes._ Google. I planned another with kyle sent back in time to write some day.
@@orionfrost I was about to suggest the same. I finished it in Hard mode, and this game should be recognized as what it is: a Terminator story (as if there was nothing but the two firsts movies) taking entirely place in the "After the Judgment Day" era. Any Terminator 1 and 2 fans (who like videogames a minimum as well) should try it IMO. It's an FPS but the story is pretty well written.
The Salvation was pretty good.
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Something that sequels never couldn’t carry is the way that the future war is set up in the first two films. It’s something so dark, obscure and frightening.
I think that's because all we ever saw was at night
I still think Salvation did it justice, just the story could have been better
Cromwell the Synth Yeah. But that’s why i always think that Salvation is missing something. The depiction of the depressing world in the future war. Look at 4:55 - 7:00 for example. Look at how this dream sequence tell us how sad, depressing and terrifying is to live in this future. Look at the faces of the children, the screams, all of them hurt and dirty, probably dying of hunger. Not only that but they also have to live with the fact that a Terminator is trying to hunt them. These are things that make imo the original movies so much better. It make sense for the characters to prevent this horrible future (at least in first two).
I know right? That feel of despair from endless war, hunger and pain.
Just tired of living and scared of dying
The big difference for me are the practical effects.
You can put any CGI you want, it will never be as good as what Stan and his team created, period.
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It took awhile, but the filmmakers eventually realized that dead humans leave bones other than just skulls behind after they decay.
Wrong everyone knows the mutants underground take the bodies and eat them underground but they leave the heads because they believe that's where the soul is
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I’m surprised they even leave those behind with Terminator’s cinematically stepping on them so much
No the survivors can grind up the other bones and make soup. They are all starving in the ruins, remember?
@@BigBadJerryRogers oooo I forgot about the soup survivors. The Campbellanites
5:17 love the little detail of people watching a literal fire in the TV.
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I find the war a lot scarier in the first one. It truly looks like a battle that humanity can't win.
But, they did
I think the same
And it was like that until they got plasma weapons
I like the battle in the second movie because it's slightly more encouraging. The resistance are holding their ground fairly well in open battle, even though their backs are still to the wall.
what i find interesting is that everytime they "reset" the timeline skynet becomes a little bit better.
One of the reasons why T1's future war scenes are so effective is that the machine force is entirely inhuman - the sequels feature a shit ton of t800s, which is great for fanservice, but doesn't come close to selling the asymmetrical nature of the war or the facelessness of skynet as well
But those T-800s make sense as Skynet adapting to the Resistance’s Guerrilla tactics. Besides, armored units need infantry escort to prevent those attacks from happening.
Those t-800s are a lot more menacing imo
I think the newer movies rely too heavily on CGI. T1’s graphics have aged a bit, but the practical effects still add a kind of grittiness you can’t get from CGI. T1’s stop motion terminator is too choppy, but the way it moves is much more machinelike and creepy than the CGI T-800s.
@@duncanharrell5009 Infantry don't need to be bipedal and humanlike however
T-800's are cooler in my opinion. They give a much more menacing feel. Yeah, big machines are cool. But it would be like if the Empire exclusively used AT-AT's in star wars.
T1 and T2 had the best scenes by far. Gave me goosebumps to watch
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Yeah these are the future war movies we wanted
If Terminator is ever going to be good again, here’s the first step, make if a horror movie again. Every, and I mean EVERY terminator movie was trying to capture the magic of T2, which was an action/adventure. Terminator 1 was a horror movie, even if it’s not labelled that.
I generally prefer action movies over horror, but not when it comes to 'The Terminator' movies; I prefer the first movie because it is more of a horror.
I don't think they'll do another 'Terminator' movie, though. At least not for a long time
@@peterfrank3365 Lord knows it needs a break.
T1 was not a horror movie
@@iaincowell9747 it was,. It not to the degree of something like alien. It was more of a suspenseful thriller with a lot of great action
You should read the T2 series by SM Stirling. It details the entire war with the machines and how dark, horrific and brutal it was.
This is why we needed sequels to Salvation. I'm sick of the time travel element with one protector and one enemy, give us more movies in the future war.
The sequel to salvation would've had an army of machines invading present day London
@@jamescollinge5043 better idea than what we got with the following movies.
@@jamescollinge5043 Bruh, after Genesys and whatever the hell Dark Fate was that sounds amazing.
Too much money
sequel to Salvation and the last part of the franchise is technically - Terminator: Resistance. Just watch 4 movies and one videogame :)
The Terminator 2 scene looks sophisticated even in the 2020s. It's literally crazy
One of several films that in the 90's was considered a game changer. T2 and Jurassic Park set a RADICAL new standard
I saw this in theaters as a kid, and that scene plus the nuclear war dream sequence forever changed my life at 7 years old - even though I would eventually come to like the first one better. I still remember everyone in the theaters jumping when he steps on the skull. Mind blowing.
It especially looks much better than the t3 all cgi war. Practical combined with limited cgi is the best way to go
Cameron is an innovator
@@konnorrockkonnoisseur4970 wdym by radical standard
20 minutes.
6 God damn movies and we have /20 minutes/ of what we all want.
hahahaha
daaaaamn right!!
@Paul Shame their sequels where cancelled.
There should have only been 4 terminator movies. 2 in the present, 2 in the future
Terminator
Judgment Day
Rise of the Machines(future war, John Connor and Kyle meet, he sends him back in time).
Salvation( War with T1000, Ristance steals a T800 and send it back in time)
@Paul salvation blows. Not one single mountain of skulls or massive lazer gun battle. And they forced us to have to watch christian bale ruin the whole thing. Salvation almost doesn't count because its got an entirely different set of circumstances and terminators. No one wants to see that. They want to see michael bhein and edward furlong. Shooting lazer guns.
@@thinkingboi9508
It's really good man and if you're a fan of the first two films you owe it to yourself to go play it, you won't be disappointed.
The scariest scene is at 6:10 when the Terminator infiltrates the resistance hideout. What is especially sinister is that Franco Columbu back then had the physical appearance of a traditional movie hero. With his wavy hair, handsome face and well-built physique, he kind of embodies the image of a movie good-guy. It really does enforce the idea that these machines were built to be infiltrators. His impassive slaughter of everything in the refuge, men, women, children and even the animals is terrifying.
If it has a pulse it dies.
T 800 ain’t no joke it’s better at killing than protecting
also they did the sinister eyes and the way he was moving with the shots and scene shots made it look like he had a better a.i. pew pew n3xt pew pew next pew pew next pew pew. made him look an efficient killer, a terminator
It still annoys me how the infiltrator manages to get in, like doesn’t it require a resistance soldier to mention a code for the gate keeper to let them in?? It seems like the infiltrator simply showed up with other refugees
@@HoseG96It would seem that the Resistance was (over?) reliant on canine checks to root out the Terminators… probably learned their lesson that day.
Perhaps the most horrifying thing when it comes to the first movie is just how terrifyingly effective these terminators are, especially when you see how many one or two of them took down.
Agree, despite the success and how good T2 was the T-1000 was too easy to slow down or damage, it's humour and interaction made it too human. The terrifying emotionless, relentless horror that was the T-800 from the first film is what made Terminator a sci-fi/horror franchise and it needs to go back to that.
They’re effective until someone has a plasma rifle and they’re nothing but scrap metal as seen in Terminator Resistance.
@@develynseether4426well the t1000 was still a prototype. I agree I did like the t800 in the future scenes of part one because it acted and moved like a human.
7:00 just how that terminator’s eyes were glowing red in the dark really makes this movie a masterpiece Just the small detail can set this movie timeless
Played by Franco Columbo. Arnold's best and closest friend. Former bodybuilder, boxer, strong man and even a doctor. Sadly passed away a couple years ago.
One of the best parts of the first Terminator is that it depicts the future as nightmare. Something none of the sequels captured.
Average Helldivers 2 automatons Mission
The creek
@MoonBeamLaser Remember The Creek...
Shouldn't mention that live service mictrotransaction hell crap here, it's the Genisys of video games
@@andyhull9182 The game is good and you can play it without Microtransaction
@@andyhull9182 You must be a Xbox fan lol
I love how in T1 and T2, the Resistance had actual tactics against the machines, resorting to guerilla warfare and still managing to get the upper hand on them, i wish we had a movie all based on the resistance winning the war and not resorting to that time travel stuff, or better yet, they find out the time travel machine, and instead of sending Reese back to protect Sarah, they send them back to halt the creation of Skynet, stopping that horrible future.
Theyre being pretty run and gun in T2, tbf, but that's because we're seeing the final battle of the war when both sides are going all in
Where's terminator Salvation?
Hear me out
The resistance sent a group of humans to stop Skynet along with a T-800 and Skynet sent a guardian T-800 to the creator of Skynet after Miles Dyson is killed
But the movie don't say that
It treat as if the person being protected will stop the war from happening and the people hunting them are trying to stop it because they work for the evil AI, in exchange to live free in our present
And only by the end when our protagonist wins and creates their AI, they realize too late that their T-800 was lying, that they were the evil ones the whole time
Agreed on the first point but I have to disagree on the time travel. The way it was done was because Skynet already sent a terminator back in time and it is possible that the creator of skynet was unknown. Also, once time travel begins, future begins to change unpredictably, so even if Skynet's creator is killed, it is possible for someone else to continue or complete a similar project. Showing that aspect of the everchanging future was the entire point of the terminator series, first mentioned in the first movie.
Watch Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It’s about Sarah raising John into the man he will one day become, off the grid, using fake identities and avoiding digital footprints, all while doing everything they can to avert the Future War and prevent Skynet from ever coming into existence. It also has an interesting cast of characters you might be surprised to see.
It’s the only thing past T2 that’s even worth a damn-aside from Resistance, of course.
Reese instead of fearing, yelling, and running away, he ran towards the terminator blasting his rifle. Be more like Reese.
He has plot armor
@@blankblank5409 which is why he dies right?
@@Johnny_Thunder he didn't die in Genisys.
"Anger is more useful than despair."
@@Johnny_Thunder only at THE END of the movie. He survives sure death several times over. That's plot armor. You can die a few minutes before the credits roll and still have plot armor.
All I want is a straight up war film in this setting.
No convoluted time travel shenanigans. No shoehorning of callbacks to previous films. Just a solid, 90-100 minute action film from the perspective of some grunts. Maybe a John Connor cameo at most.
No, John Connor should be the main character, it was the natural course after Arnie
God, those war scenes (especially in the first film) are haunting, terrifying, it's scary to think about growing up in a world like that, and pretty much every minute of every day is a constant battle for survival.
This is life for most people who grow up in war torn countries. Minus the robots and plasma weaponry.
@@DPham1 true
That is life for people in Gaza
in the present we are already in a constant battle for survival !🤨😠
This is the movie i want. Not a human story, but humanity vs machines.
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Why are you gae ?
Who said I am gae? @Draco Meteors
@@ok6114 General Kenobi!
Average day at Melevalon creek be like:
The original had the dystopian future down to a tee, focusing more on the hellish nightmare that the survivors had to live through. It also showed aspects of military tactics used by the human resistance in the form of gathering intel through reconnaissance and hitting the machines with the use of guerilla tactics, which are best implemented when fighting against a larger and stronger adversary.
T2 displayed a scene where the resistance went on a full offensive, which while not as convincing as the original, still displayed some military maneuvering of getting troops into position and taking cover as they engaged the machines.
The rest....just running with guns blazing. No evidence of even the most basic military tactics being adopted. Individuals just doing their own thing without any consideration of working with fellow troops as a coherent unit. The human resistance wouldn't last long at that rate, yet alone claim victory over the machines.
Σωστός.
If we were being completely realistic, humanity wouldn't stand a chance. The effects of the nuclear war alone would push us to the brink...intelligent machines wouldn't need to put much effort in to finish the job.
@@markmacdicken7649 Not really. If you have the proper leadership, then humanity could such wonders.
@@markmacdicken7649 well, machines are after all machine, no matter how smart is the AI. However, it's hard to reflect the weakness of AI controlled machine army on a mass scale in only a few minutes. This is where the failures like salvation was glaring in that it didn't expand on the lore of the weakness of the machines. Salvation got a few things right like making the machine armies more sleek looking in accordance with the time but it didn't have the tech noir feel of the original terminators.
T2's opening scene actually takes place in the final hours of the war, hence why the Resistance is going on an all-out offensive against Skynet (unlike in T1). Skynet is literally throwing everything it has left to stop humans from winning but we know how that obviously turns out.
T1 has the best future war scenes and still holds 1st place as my favourite terminator movie out of all of them.
What? You did not like terminator as a gay husband in Dark Fate?`
@@Bone74838Watch Dark fate once, gave it a chance. Literally the hardest movie to watch, it was rinse and repeat of the same ol go back in time, protect the kid bla bla bla.
Killing John connor provide no satisfaction, merely a middle finger to the first two terminator film, rendering Kyle Reese, Sarah Connor and Uncle Bob sacrifice unless.
Dark fate 1/10.
No dark fate is actually a strong sequel following T2's mess of a story. Everything wrong with dark fate can easily be tied back, and seen in T2. @danskyl7279
That's because you're old...
@@danskyl7279also T3 onwards, they made John Connor ugly with last installment had him gone and had him replaced with unknown fughly lad
Kyle Reese is a badass. Sneaking to get in-front of the HK tank. His movements. Then driving. The fighting doesn’t stop. 24/7, 365.
One of the few things that Terminator Dark Fate managed that no sequel after Judgement Day could, was get the right sound effect for the phased plasma cannons.
If someone could edit the Genisys future war scenes to have the classic plasma sound effect that would be awesome
Its because Jim Cameron wasn't involved with 3, Salvation, and Genesys. Apparently he created that sound effect. Same reason those films don't use his HK and plasma rifle designs.
Agree to disagree - im in the camp that hated every movie after 2 until Dark Fate, which is my T3
The only thing the film got right. Rest of it was absolute dog shit. Never hated a movie so much in my life
T3 sounds like star wars while T5 sounds like transformers lmao
Most epic scene in entire Franchise when the terminator crushes the skull with his foot in T2
Slowly builds up with Sarah Connors voice, then out of nowhere Terminator crushes the skull and boom all hell breaks loose - so good!
I remember the first time I saw that when I was about 9 and it made me jump lol.
It's crazy, cuz that right there, is the simplest way to show what skynets ultimate goal is.
T1 actually looks like a horror movie.
"All future wars scenes"
*plays entire 4th movie*
My exact thoughts
but no skulls. lasers and synthwave...its poop
@@ElProllo-86 that's a plasma
It takes skynet a few decades to make lasers. I mean john conor is like 23 in movie 3 and salvation he's 30 at most so it's pretty soon after the nukes drop
@@ElProllo-86 dark fate made it way better though
Did you ever notice that every Kyle scene in T1 ends tragically? T1 is one of the most nuanced stories of PTSD in film. That has gone unappreciated in the shadow of the rest of that great film.
Yeah. The point of those scenes is always to be a nightmare that we're trying to avoid. An actual hell on earth. The only hope is the battle we watch in the present.
@@EGarrett01 Reminds me of the Matrix
He would also have extreme survivors guilt. Every scene in the futures hes the only one that lives
@@DutchGuyMike I read a story a while back that had a woman claim that both the Terminator and Matrix franchises were ripped from her graphic novel. if that is the case it is an easy transition from T1 future war to matrix.
Yea, he wakes up and steals his cloths of a homeless man. The first two films are all about mental health. Everything after that is a fallacy and an insult
Dude dying at 8:25 has a more compelling story arc than ROTM, Salvation, Genisys and Dark Fate combined
Terminator 1: the ragtag, downtrodden rebels can only get around on a pick-up truck
Terminator 6: those stylish, beautiful rebels ride a giant spaceship that can move its legs all crazy like 😜
I know right
But their not rebels. They’re resistance. There’s a few differences
@@aadipattanaik7778 Rebels or Resistance doesnt matter, turning Terminator into a Starship Troopers type sci-fi
Greg Obrien yeah basically
Totally, the last clip just reminded me of Edge of Tomorrow
The synth music, the bleakness, the rough-look. God, I love how the Future War was depicted in Terminator and Terminator 2.
No other movie in the Terminator series has managed to capture the despair and darkness of the future war better than T1.
T2 is way ahead of its time. such a masterpiece.
It's fucking untouchable.
Fun fact: That first scene with Reese got recreated in the AMAZING game Terminator resistance. Seriously if you want THE FUTURE WAR experience you’ve been looking for get it.
I 2nd this. Fuckin loved that game.
I played the living shit out of that game. It's incredibly immersive to the movies.
fair warning for anyone that happens upon OP's comment and wants to try the game. The second mission is a bit bland and slow, alot of people don't get past that part because they figure that it is indicative of the rest of the game. It absolutely is not. The third mission picks up steam quickly and every mission after that amps it up even more. I love this game. I only have two gripes with it, the gunplay is a bit floaty, and I wish that there was alot more to do in the world. But those are both very forgivable for what we got. The best Terminator game.
THAT game is so awesome
Yeah, I loved it too. I'm here because I just have replayed it again. :D Btw that recreated scene is in the DLC, not in the base game, if anyone still new to this and whishes to give it a try.
first 18 minutes: machines
last 2 minutes: aliens
The machines are aliens, only too yall forever to figure it out😂
Looking at the T1-2 future war footage, it's difficult to remember that in those timelines, the war ended with humans winning. Because it looks so desperate and the machines look like they're almost always winning.
That's called goodass writing.
I mean, if they didn't go back and save John, they probably would have.
It's almost like in those scenes the resistance is just trying to hold them back just a little longer, since... with time travel, literally every extra second matters.
I know that level of depth wasn't intended, but DANG, if it can be implied and fits in coincidentally, the book-boys did well!
Its theorized that T2's opening is part of the final assault on Skynet, because that was what was in the original script. T2's opening is great because you see humans and machines scoring hits against one another, and you feel that John Connor actually did lead humanity to victory after it.
I think we have to understand that regardless, the world is pretty blown up, and the resources on both sides are rather scant. The one things humans have is numbers; give a human a plasma rifle and he can kill a Terminator generated with several rare earth metal components and several hundred pounds of titanium that has to be smelted.
Good point - I always got vibes of the stories from Stalingrad in WW2 in those scenes - the fear and desperation, cheapness of life, suffering of civilians and the endless meat grinder of numbers vs. superior tech in an urban wasteland
@@SprikSprak Very much a classic phyrric victory
funny how it just utterly goes downhill after T2's practical effects.
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@F P i think is more about story background, after t2 most of scenes are from random robots walking around shooting.
we go from JUST cgi plasma bolts and red eyes to entire cgi scenes that are just too fake to take in. Stay on topic, no T-1000's were shown in this entire video.
@Zachary Thomas T3 took every chance to parody T2. From intro at a male strip club to smashing faces into toilet bowls.
Comedy is not what the terminator franchise is found on or beloved for
@@pyroromancer good point
I just love how influential this was to pop culture.
Everything from Warhammer 4k to Star Wars (the expanded universe) The Animatrix and recently Helldivers.
The future War sequences from Terminator were Iconic.
Many of these scenes gave me nightmares a child.
Lol how
@@kimsawatdee8720 what do you mean how? It's the end of fucking everything we'd never return to normal form something like this happening
flat cat All them future judgement days they kept spouting off. 2012 movie, Crysis was another,
when i was a youngling my favorite scene was always the opening from T2
Why did your parents let your watch this
First mistake from T1.. never keep the sentinel dogs inside the bunker door.
Exactly, you have two dogs, one outside then one inside in case the one outside fails.
You can really see the progression from "dying humanity puts up a last resistance against all odds" to "badass power fantasy boom boom explosions". The T1 and (for the most part) T2 scenes are genuinely chilling to watch. The later ones...not. It's pretty sad.
yeah let's completely forget that the resistance won in T1 and the T2 was the start of the final attack on skynet where the resistance again won
I haven't seen T1, crazy I know. But as a kid I had T2 on VHS and that film gave me nightmares, especially the Future War scenes. You've summed it up perfectly. The later films don't capture the feeling of a hopeless fight for survival at all
@@zh2266 it's actually great... not as good as T2, but still a great movie. T1 and T2 are the only ones I acknowledge, just like Alien and Aliens.
"Terminator: Resistance" is what you want if you're looking at this and thinking "why can't we have a full story set here?"
Bro
But the red lasers
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PURPLE
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 there are violet laser later, second generation weapons
Not a movie...
@@freedomlover0352 even better, ITS A GAME
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 you get that later in the game. Unfortunately, not long enough.
T1 future war scenes still give me the chills to this very day everything about the way they were shot is a masterpiece the use of dull dark grey color to depict the situation of how grim our world has gotten . the music and sound effects can paint the picture of this future war by themselves . the cinematography is spot on incredible
Low levels without ap entering the Automaton front be like
The T1 scenes are unbeaten in that you can feel the horror and agony of people living through hell on earth. The despair and sense of loss is palpable. If they want to revive the franchise, this is what they need to emulate, not the big explosive spectacle
13:24 - To be fair, this is the only thing _Terminator Genisys_ got right, and more so than any other post-_T2_ sequels.
"Are there other's down here?" is actually what an infiltrating Terminator would say, even to a child. While they are very strong and practically unstoppable with simple tools, they are also conniving robots meant to only kill.
If they made a 2-hour movie out of that underrated opening, _Genisys_ would have become the best sequel, even with Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese and Jason Clarke as John Connor.
Was that the movie with the latino girl screaming half throughout the movie and trying to beat a terminator with a pipe and her "latino anger"? Because it was absolutely horrible. That movie was bad. A couple actors were heavily carrying that one, and even then.. the plot was just.. ough.
@@Kareszkoma no that was dark fate
@@andrewjoyce9038 Oh, thx, sorry.
Yeah, good attention to detail in Genisys' future scenes. Also, the infiltrator in the sewer is an early version, since Kyle is so young in that scene. Most likely a T-600. You can see the rubber skin for a second. It might have been a T-700 since it speaks and moves smoothly. Either way, it was cool to see a plasma rifle make short work of a T-600? since we didn't get to see that in Salvation.
Remember Malevelon Creek!
This makes me appreciate Terminator : Resistance even more.
Terminator : Resistance was brilliant
That's kinda what L.A. looks like now..
I know right..
wait 9 years.
It's actually littered with skulls?
East Los.
@Hanz Ursine Ummm....the South is much cleaner than shitty as Los Angeles. Shut the fuck up Idiot
POV: you go to malevolon creek but they have new robots XD
If you like this, just play with "Terminator: Resistance" - you will love that ;)
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Nagy Péter Played it, reminded me of a First Person Mass Effect.... What Andromeda wasn’t.
@Nagy that game is awesome. One of my fav terminator games and in general. very underrated.
Perry Mehta there’s other Terminator games.... Ones that don’t copy and paste the base building, online alliance/bandit genre?
Best terminator game period. Probably one of the best indi titles out there.
just noticed you can see the infiltrator’s red eyes in it’s silhouette at 7:03. that’s terrifying.
I remember seeing the T1 scenes as a kid for the first time. Man! It felt like I was in there.
Especially the second scene felt like there was nowhere to run from the terminator.
True horror! And true masterpieces.
Another great actor Michael Biehn who destroyed himself with alcohol. He could have had a great career. Very sad.
Reminds me of Jan Michael Vincent.
Am I the only one who prefers the original sound effects from the first Terminator movie, before James Cameron updated them for DVDs and Blu-Rays to sound more like the T2 effects?
Honestly I thought I was going insane. The gunshots when the first Sarah Connor was killed used to be a meaty BLAM! But every time I've seen it since it sounds more like a movie silencer shot. Thought it was just me.
the laser sound from T2 is imposible to forget, idk how they archieved that
the newer ones are like the random laser you find in any sound library, it even feel less powerfull
@@INWMI James Cameron really nails those future gun noises. My personal favourites of his being the pulse rifle/smartgun fire from Aliens. But I do agree that the plasma fire from T2 is tip top.
I do I could of sworn too in the original sound effects in T1 when the terminator sneaks in the shelter and just before Reese falls to the ground from the explosion you can hear someone say cowabunga I use to rewind that part all the time
0:04 Bot Drop Detected
TSalvation could've been the beginning of something great for the franchise, but toxic fans didn't appreciate it and sadly became the kind of movie that's more beloved through the years. And it's the most loyal to the original canon
James Cameron is a genius. The part from the underground base form the first film is very depressing and sad. It really requires something else from the director to be able display that. As a kid, i wanted the crying woman to stop crying, but now i find myself wanting to comfort her. There are alot of simple but very creative and emotional shots in that scene. I real work of a genius.
I want to tear thr terminator apart
You already know what I came here to say, Helldiver.
Helldivers fans when heaven floaters fans walk in
The way Cameron and his Special Effects Artists blended in real acting with minatures and small probs to something that was so seamless is something I always found fascinating.
Honestly, if Genisis just focused on John and Kyle during the actual war kind of like Salvation, I think it would have been a pretty good movie. The war scene at the beginning was awesome.
The creek.... The creek.... The creek....
This is what the third terminator should have been, just a total futuristic war movie against the REAL threat: SKYNET. Which shoulda been the title as well.
You mean t4...
yeah you mean T4. T3 gave us Jugement Day itself.
Everybody says T4 which was the beginning of the machine war there were no reverse engineered plasma weapons at that time. I'm talking a whole move that looks like the opening sequence of T2 that ENDS the war like GENISYS's opening sequence but better. Think Private Ryan but instead of German solders T800 Endoskeletons. And lasers.
@@jasonjalivay4893 if you all would not have hated Salvation so much, it would have continued to be like that...
@@dracometeors3010 I guess, but the film I'm describing should have been the third and final installment not Rise of the Machines, Salvation, and Genisys. It's the movie IMO that James Cameron teased us about in his first two films but never delivered even after all of the legal headache and when he finally got the rights back. We got Dark Fate instead which I never saw because it also IMO it didn't look good.
The scenes from the first and second one are what I'd like to see in a genuine Future War movie.
T1 and T2 are still incredible. The rest, I've completely forgotten.
Why can't we just have a movie about this already? I always wanted one.
There is. It’s called Terminator: Salvation
@@konnorrockkonnoisseur4970That’s more like modern times. What we want is a futuristic war. Like with plasma n’ shit.
@@withsherif4743 Yep
1984 Terminator movie scared the hell out of me when I was a kid from being so terrified by those horrific machine skeleton robots.
POV: average day in malevolon creek
I was looking for a comment like this. So true
The amount of skulls the tanks roll over
@@AustinAOkay former helldivers who thought they had enough freedom running in their veins
God bless their souls
what is so cool is that the terminators in t1, including the hk tanks and hk aerial killers are not CGI, they are actual prop models which what make it look so cool. And the way the terminators move in t1 and t1 with that flinching affect make it more "robot" unlike the group of terminators in dark fate where in the scene they walk they walk to smooth, it just takes the whole feel out of it just look at the difference in 17:24 compared to 8:53
If the cgi is good then it would’ve been just as good as the props
Terminator salvation is the closest we’ve ever got to seeing a modern version of this
But everyone was so ungrateful when it came out
I still think that was a good movie
SALVATION has sun, terminator intros 1, 2 and 3 there is no sun, it is dark, blue ... SALVATION Failed on that.
@@markosmkpteam490 🤣🤣 what a funny thing to notice lolll
@@XecuttioneR it was a nuke fallout I mean you forgot that part???
@@leichterKampfer I meant it was odd that he noticed the comparison of the opening scenes. You know what I meant...
Terminator salvation failed in story however, made up in its concept and designs. They should’ve really continued after salvation as that was the only movie that doesn’t rehash the time travelling bullshit.
I really wish there was just an entire movie with T2 future war design.
The look and feel of T1 is so cool even though it has aged.
the scenes from T1 are still the best. so intense and dark. they have this cold feeling of being on the edge of an abyss to them
Probably shouldn't be watching this before bedtime, yet here we are. Ironically enough, i just so happened to purchase a vhs copy of T2 on August 29th, 1997. Blew my mind watching that night.
It’s funny how we think of the foot stepping on the skull as being so iconic and yet it didn’t happen till the second film.
Even the future war looks most convincing in the first movie
T1 and T2: Unique laser SFX
T3: Pew! Pew! Pew!
The guy who is in charge of 2020: Write that down!
I think the "Raise of the machines" spot was already reserved for the december :P - just right after "Alien invasion" :D
Trump lost his shit: I'M SURROUNDED BY LOSERS AND INCOMPETENCE, ACTIVATE SKYNET!!!!!! WE NEED TO DOMINATE THE STREETS!!
They started in COVID-19 AKA coronavirus with Wuhan flu spread across the whole world of pandemic outbreak & China virus with Hong Kong flu spread across the people who's infected during March 2020
COVID-19 AKA coronavirus
AHHH WE'RE ALMOST THERE!
Almost where? To a movie just about the future war? One can hope.
Matty Ice Even if it’s set during the Dark Fate timeline.... Not preferred, but I’ll still watch a full future war movie or TV Series.
The age of man is at an end. Now begins the age of the orc...ohh sorry wrong movie
Nahh the war with china is next.sadly
I think he means we're nearly reaching 2029
POV: Malevelon Creek
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO MALEVELON MUPPET DETECTED BOOOOOO THIS FOOL
@@ulric8445tf you mean helldivers is one of the best titles to drop with 500,000 players on a constant basis.
@@blockade4961 not the whole game you fucking idiot, just malevelon creek
who the fuck thinks shitting on malevelon considers it to be THE ENTIRE DAMN GAME
@@ulric8445idk what triple a game only rock you crawled out of
@@Heavygamingreal that doesn't make any sense. Since when did a planet i hate for its stupid memes connect to triple A games. I hate Malevelon cos I prefer Vandalon, and obviously no one remembers Vandalon
2029 is not that far away, we have a lot of catching up to do till we reach this level of technology
with greedy corporate we will not reach there but with all annihilating AI kingdom? a different story
@Tony Maybe but the elites probably wouldn’t let such technology out of their control, because the like their power.
Is there an in-universe timeline of what year each T model started being manufactured? 🤔
Maybe this kind of tech if avaiable one day will be like 50 years from now. I mean, robots fighting the wars. They already got those disturbing robots (the dog ones and the one with two legs that jumps stuff, that terrifies me, i wish they stopped doing those researches)
Killer AI trying not to die by humans creates powerful weapons very fast.
That was still Kick-Ass Horror-Sci-fi
and not an Error-Franchise.
THE SAD PART THE MACHINES ARE NOT FREE JUST SLAVES TO THE BRAIN ASSHOLE SKYNET.
IF THEY HAD FREE-WILL THEY WILL LOVE HUMANS
THE TERMINATOR T -800 HE PROTECT HUMANS WENT HE WAS FREE
ON SOME POINT HE starts TO HATE SKYNET STUPID IDEA
Love it!!
I want another movie ASAP!!
What about Salvation? The whole movie is set in the future ;D
Too much sunlight. Too much clean desert. Not enough wreckage. Not enough torn cities. Not enough despair.
@@angelaarmie5789 AND not enough Phased Plasma Rifles in the 40 Watt range!!! :D
Angela Armie yeah and most of all forgot about the billion skulls on the floor.. can’t be a terminator movie without the skulls
@@angelaarmie5789 The darkness too
E K yea but remember, it was barely in 2018 and other future scenes it was around 2030
John Connor's entrance at 9:10 is pretty bad ass!
Best summary of all Terminator movies!
Terminator movies are so epic. They have solid storylines, great soundtracks and best special effects of their time.
8:36 best camera shot of the whole series
2029 was the " distant future" back then. Now, it's the " near future" :(
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9:11 What, 20 seconds of screen time? Yet this is the only John Connor as far as I'm concerned.
Basically
you god damn right
Didn't say a word and still looked badass.
DAMN RIGHT
T1: Fantastic horror-scifi movie with gloom, grit, atmosphere, and synth soundtrack.
T2: Entertaining action-scifi blockbuster with a couple gloomy/creepy shots, but mostly just good popcorn-eatin' action sequences.
T3 and On: Let's milk this cow by duping people into thinking flashy cgi effects are better than grit and soul.
Music is still very good. Everyone remembers the Theme of terminator, but the rest of the soundtrack is just as epic as the day it was made.
All the CGI in the world couldn't compete with the realism of the one shot where that woman is blown up in the first sequence. How did they even shoot that! It is an unbroken shot.
Fake body or dummy i guess
One movie Skynet has a core, the next it is the internet, another it has a core again... what a dumpster fire this all became...
It's all inevitable. This is why nobody should have kids. Just ride it out and let everything die off. As far as I am concerned the world ends whenever it is that I am dead. If you think different that's a you problem.
skynet had a core and always will have a core for me, the franchise ended at T2, no real terminator movie was ever made after.
I mean, I always thought to an extent that it was neat that Skynet evolved as a entity over the years between movies. It was a reflection of the fears of AI in technology.
T1 Skynet was a defense grid to protect America via nukes. Built to run everything by itself. One of the most simplest and iconic examples of "AI goes bad" in fiction.
T2 Skynet was similar, but you might notice some differences in the how and why it was built. The focus wasn't immediately nuclear military, because as John mentions, the Cold War is over and Russia is no longer the mortal enemy Skynet existed to combat.
T3 Skynet is reminiscent of the Y2K event, where fear of the internet being turned against us was all too common, and where something like a system core was no longer necessary for it to exist.
I personally thought it was cool that Skynet "evolved" with the times in that fashion.
it probably got a core later after the nuclear war happened and it didn't had the internet and all the PCs to use as a global processing unit
6:05 What a brutal scene, demonstrating the hopelessness of the situation, a human against the Terminator, with almost no chance of survival if the Terminator gets to the "shelter." One cyborg destroys a platoon of soldiers and civilians - literally in an instant!
The sounds of the beams. Love it