The film was rather good up to this point. After the chase scene the quality and action kind of died. It is a shame as it had some great potential this!
There are more films in which such a near-death experience is shown in close-up and repeated than there would be Terminators, if they were real... There are fear-filled, tear-stained faces everywhere in close-up with groans and moans.
Man, I really love the sound design of the machines in this movie. The almost-constant "vocalizations"/sound of their servos really increases the menace of their presence.
Shooting a non pressurized container of flammable substance with a non explosive projectile with no effect broke the movie logic "It didn't work!", that was fantastic😂😂😂 big props for the realism
still very dangerous and possible, since bullets often make sparks once hitting metal surfaces. so although i would agree i also wouldn't bet my life on that.
@@SkinhoundI think the leak is not fast enough to reach the spark before it fades. Unless you shoot the tank again and create a spark when the substance is ALREADY leaking.
Well it seems to me that the ground robot is deployed from the big airship so the silent approach is somewhat doable. You can see it "boarded" on the airship during the bridge scene
John Connor: "Evasive maneuvers now" Pilot: "Oh yeah thanks for the heads up I wouldn't know otherwise to try and evade the thing that just blew my friend up."
exactly my thoughts, in many chase/battle scenes the commanding officer usually says that as if it is meant something. commanding office usually deals with macro issues, micro management ( to a certain degree ) is usually left to field personnel, thats why its important to have a "good pilot" otherwise anyone who could follow simple orders would be able to carry out the demanding tasks that these people are put through
@@condor07uk You haven't seen the arrogance in some pilots then. Also, anyone considered it was not given as an order, but as a person concerned for the life of the pilot, i.e. a good friend - if that was your friend, wouldn't you be shouting the same at them?
To add to that some people might get blocked so to say when presented with a scenario ie people seeing a car stopped in the highway and not avoidong it or pilots taking command of the plane and countering the commands given by their copilot domming the aircraft. Air France comes to mind with that 777 incident over the sea
Because movies today are terrible. I used to love movies, popcorn, surround sound, ice cold coke and snacks. I don't even watch tv now because everything is pushing some kind of agenda/propaganda. It's like some kind of apocalypse is on the horizon and we'll be telling our great grand kids about how great it used to be. 😂
Wasn’t even considered good at the time. Definitely a Star Wars prequel situation, where we definitely got mid movies but we had no idea how much worse it could get
@@sylph4252 they were extremely ambitious and creative, I will give you that, and that is a masterpiece compared to the AI written slop we’ve been getting
@@UNSCSpartanS114-g6e Marcus gets slammed, exploded to the point of having his guts out, and fire bombed. Yet he dies when they take his heart out? Doesn't look like he even needed human organs to live)))
@@jexelbur6872 I can agree its the 3rd most scary Terminator in all the films! The sound of it is menacing! It has some pretty accurate shooting (unless it gets blasted in a heap of smoke and fire). It carries two motorcycle Terminators within its legs. And it has the support of its own ship and 2 HK ships too. This thing was a beast. Imagine if SkyNet made the T800 this big!
The thing that strikes fear into me is the inhumanity of it. You don’t get the closure of seeing a persons face kill you; you see a large machine. It doesn’t care if you live or die. It does what it is programmed to do, with no thought.
It can't do that much damage like the big gun because they're too small. They were trying to aim for the crucial target like the engine, the wheels and the driver
I believe the two moto-terminators goal is to track the get away humans. The secondary objective appears to be stopping the humans by firing at the truck. But I believe these are likely designed to mostly track and follow. This is because the Harvester ship and HK both find the truck on the bridge despite having driven very far away from the attack scene. Its likely the moto-terminators have a tracking system onboard so the HK or Harvesters can find them. Another possibility for the Moto-Terminators not opening fire much could be down to power consumption. We see a majority of Terminator units still use human standard bullet guns and not laser blasters. The blasters are mostly seen on larger units like Harvesters, HK's, and Torrents. Considering this is also the early days of SkyNet its extremely likely the moto-terminators only has a very limited amount of power to use blasters like these on such a small infiltration unit.
According to canon, the mototerminators' purpose is to roundup fleeing humans so the Harvester can catch up and collect them. They attack seeking to disable the vehicle instead of outright destroying it.
It's fun to rewatch knowing this. There's more than a handful of scenes during the initial watch like skipping across the river, where I was like "no way a human would survive that." Well turns out that was true.
Great stuff as always from Worthington. His portrayal of a vaguely confused cyborg with zero emotional range was dead on. Why, I don't think there was a single instant in that whole movie where he seemed in danger of expressing something a human being might identify as a feeling. What a fantastic actor.
Salvation was such a great movie. If they would of just continued the series following salvation and not try to reboot the damn thing, ot would of probably been better.
@@ankhmorpok1497 Marcus was a new secret Skynet infiltrator prototype. His arch seemly ended when he willingly donated his heart to the injured John Connor. The second part would explore more his legacy. It is a shame WB chose to cancel the project for a regrettable reboot.
Saw this in theaters and let me tell you, my gut CHURNED when this scene came on, it felt like a real nightmare. My Dad even said he was worried he wouldn't know what to do to protect me and my sister in a situation like this. The size of the robot and the noises were far more jarring in theater, especially when it wasn't expected. GREAT SCENE.
The designs of the moto-Terminators are cool but they feel too advanced for the time period, where nearly everything else was chunky, heavy, and not very fast. Salvation wasn't great, but it was still a lot better than the Terminator movies that followed. They should have stayed in this era instead of abandoning it after one film.
It's not practical to make everything hyper advanced, Skynet would be constantly recalling all units for upgrades whenever it discovered something new that could be implemented. My theory is that the harvesters are newer and fewer in number and specific for a simple task, and were equipped with the existing moto-terminators to mitigate the spread of knowledge about them, as the movie does establish the harvesters to be part of a secret program by skynet.
The bad writing is my reason for thinking its average. If you can ignore flaws then yeah maybe you will like this. But for me, I can't ignore bad design.
I watched those crates turn complete circles within Bincombe valley. Between the Knoll and Tout Down - never left the bowl of the valley. Watched F-15s performing turns over the same area: entered stage left, exited stage right, went beyond Sutton Poyntz, Came Down and Ridgeway Hill before they were back over Bincombe. A-10s can fucking turn; they're just slow.
Dont underestimate the A-10. They're made to perform at slower airspeeds. They're not supersonic. But they got the "traction" of two turbofans. Pushes them along better. Which helps keep their energy in tight turns. 👌
@@AndrewGivens Yeah and how does that exactly build up to your argument? they can't dog fight because they will bleed all their energy faster than most planes because it is not designed to dogfight
@@davecrupel2817 "do not underestimate the A-10" you are literally fighting a super fighter built by a rogue super intelligent AI who knows the best possible way to build a fighter and defeat another. what you shouldn't underestimate is the missiles A10s used in the war. Apart from that they are helpless against another fighter because first of all who tf dogfights these days? second of all, even if they decided to dogfight every single other aircraft is faster and can disengage easily if they feel uneasy about the situation. Lastly, even if the A10 is built for slower speed who tf is gonna fall for it? everyone knows that and they simply won't take the fight to the A10s advantage. its a terrible aircraft still
I never understood why there were so many haters. This and the Sarah Connor Chronicals were some of my favourite additions to the franchise. They need a new TV series to do it justice.
It's kinda sad that this is the only Terminator movie that entirely takes place in the future after Judgement Day, and probably the only movie that got A-10 gun sound close to what it supposed to sound irl.
Because going by the scene, this is a really lousy movie with nonsensical action scenes that should’ve been written better with the budget and the capacities available to them. That this movie is better than a lot of subsequent movies is just salt in the wound.
If the other scenes was something more sci-fi, plasma shots everywhere, a bunch of soldiers with high tech equipment, john connor... Now this one is just a normal war between modern machines... not like the last terminator war scenes...
@@Omenyos This movie clearly mentioned the early war era were plasma weapons were strictly reserve to heavy machines, bikes and aircraft. It is a shame Salvation trilogy got quietly canned for garbages.
Yup and they really do go hand in hand of the parallels they really complete eatch other from beginning to end more so I would say then T2 does 1 The T800 scene trying to grab John’s face just like Sarah at the end of the terminator 2 The T800 walking up the stairs leg shot jast as it was in T1 factory chase 3 The T600 scene while John is crawling just as Sarah was crawling away from the T800 4 Sarah’s picture 5 The gas station of salvation a call back to Terminator 1 gas station 6 Kyle Reese’s learning the shot gun strap as he knows it in T1 delete extra extended scene 7 Johns face to face talk about terminator 1 events to Marcus 8 Kyle there was one men who tought us to fight he turn it around he brought us back the foreshadowing in T4 the terminator camps 9 John now protecting his would be teen father just as he will In The terminator protecting his unborn son Yeah pretty much this is also why T1 and T4 are my favorite yes there are Direct story plot references to Terminator 2 JD and even T3 especially with the skynet knowing about John’s dad which you can thank Sarah for that in the hospital plus 10 years later Skynet resurrected as the INTERNET 🛜 which People thought was a plot hole 🕳️ and not useing there brains of thinking of the terminator lore up to this point LMFAO 🤣 But yeah you get it T4 was truly a love letter to what preceded it but the biggest lore letter connection was T1 being its sequel-prequel and all
Gotta love Mc G. Dude has an eye & ear for action sequences, sound design, & flair. Music videos, Charlie’s Angels 1 & 2, The Babysitter, and Terminator: Salvation just to name a few. Watching the motorcycle take out the FK Carrier port side engine is pure gold, er’ry time.
@@A-Warthog-cc1wm And the keen eye should note - the A-10 is a ground support attack aircraft - being used as an Air interceptor in this - showing how utterly defeated the humans are - that their entire interceptor squadrons are destroyed - and relying on ground attack aircraft to fill the role - hence the HK easily taking them out. When the war would of started - F-22, F-35s would of been first in, and wiped out, then back ups - F-18, F-15s, F-14, F-16 and so on down the list - loosing all your forces until you have basically A-10s, and bombers left. Using the A-10s in this scene was A tiny little detail for the keen minded eye, and those with military knowledge to pick up on how destroyed humans forces are. Also FUCK YEAH the A-10, fucking awesome aircraft - just not for dog fights.
@@rianmacdonald9454 honestly, I think it’s because the A-10 a solid aircraft that doesn’t require many electronics or any that could taken over by skynet, also love it so much
@@rianmacdonald9454 Terminator Dark Fate: fucking antigravity transport with plasma rifles. Even A-10s looks too good for human that have to hide in severages
Anyone else notice the harvester appears to rely on large, albeit advanced diesel engines for main power. Clever attention to detail from the production designer that tells us the robots are advanced but not quite advanced (at the year it's set) to enable a small fusion fuelcell to run a very large machine.
The concept of this film was really cool! Just a real shame the quality was not as good as it could of been! I loved the part where the 2 resistance planes come flying in and take on an HK and the Harvester. But the Harvester clearly shows it can sustain a spare HK for protection and I love that the HK very quickly locks on the two planes to a point where it blows them both out of the sky within mere moments. This scene clearly shows if the humans can get the surprise they can beat the machines but once the machines are in chase there is no chance of winning.
It's interesting how much effort they go through to take the humans alive. Its also cool how the ship waits a bit before immediately vaporizing the truck after there aren't anymore humans inside.
Some people said this movie was bad and was too much like transformers (some psychopaths even say it’s the worst in the franchise, like have they even watched a terminator sequel) I thought it was freaking awesome. It’s the only original sequel that moves forward instead of rebooting itself, it’s great to finally see the future they keep talking about, even though it’s PG13 the grittier and more realistic tone is a nice welcome, while not all the characters are super interesting you do care for them, it’s the only terminator sequel that isn’t just another Terminator 2, the visuals are really cool and realistic and still hold up, and the action scenes and set pieces are great. This might be a super controversial take but ‘Terminator Salvation’ is my second favourite terminator movie behind ‘Terminator 2 Judgment Day’
It’s pretty nice of that robot to not kill any of the main characters, despite having hundreds of opportunities. Just goes to show that the Machines aren’t such bad guys after all!
@@Far-Reez Unfortunately. Was only able to save half a squad mate. Extract was hot. We all ran to the pelican. I was first in with my squad only feet behind me... I sat and turned around and saw the horror... All 3 mutilated on the cargo bay door. Only when a devastator rocket hit, launching B3's torso into the cargo hold did the pilot take off. Holding my friends gurgling torso in my lap, he mustered his last bloody scream "Have a cup of Liber-tea for me..." So as acting Death Captain Prime of the ship Founding Father of Family Values, I choose violence from here and forever more on any evil put fourth in front of myself, my weapons of destruction and my guard dog!!!!
5:55 One of the reasons why i would add a way to cut the cable on a tow truck. I mean, even in reality there where a lot situations where tow trucks where pulled away because the vehicle they where connected to made a sudden/unintended move.
I know this movie is kind of polarizing, but if nothing else I really liked how they portrayed the war of the machines after Judgement Day. The flashbacks to that time in the previous movies and TV show were some of my favorite parts of the franchise, and I’m honestly surprised it took them this long to make a movie set in that time period. The time traveling aspect of Terminator is kind of tapped dry at this point, but I think another movie set after Judgement Day could actually be pretty good, if for no other reason than fighting big robots is fun to watch.
3:05 so where were all the prisoners when everything blew up?? And why did this thing collect people to be processed later? Did I miss that part? In other movies, they just try to kill all the humans on the spot.
at 2:45 you can see the ship with all the prisoners take off, behind the 7/11 sign. And iirc correctly they are collecting humans to process into t-800s or w/e
In 2024 this movie still holds up. Might I say better than most current movies. God the 2010s really had a magic I didn't realize till it's gone. Now it's all woke this race that.
0:17 They start flying backwards 10 frames before the explosion even goes off. 2:49 The aerial shot has no giant Terminator in the explosion. 4:23 The overpass and rubble are behind them, then the overpass is above them and the rubble is in front of them and hits the window, then the overpass and rubble are behind them again. I'm not sure if this is incredibly sloppy work or if the poor crew were in a race against time to get this out by the release date.
2:23 What was the harvester doing for this entire "here's a flare, let me give it to you slowly" part? Shit like that would never happen in a Cameron movie. This is a guy that added detail like having the cop car window be blown out as a dummy GL round was shot through the window in the office window shootout scene in T2. Because that is what made sense. You don't even notice half the details he got right.
the Harvester dropped two moto-terminators and somehow they had 3 chasing them. A third magically shows up for the plot device of slamming into the engine of the hunter killer which in the next scene the hunter killer completely forgets it has a failing engine and turns around to shoot the truck still weighing it down. Gotta love when movies don't give a shit about continuity.
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The sound effects really add an ominous element to this scene
Funny, here I am sitting, wondering why sound is such a garbage...
@@Blento0404otnelB Like your home?
The intensity level during this scene is off the chart,
it's one near-death experience after another.
The film was rather good up to this point. After the chase scene the quality and action kind of died. It is a shame as it had some great potential this!
Shut up stupid
It's called plot armour 🤣
As evidenced by the first projectile that somehow doesn't kill but launches everybody sideways for some reason.
@@misterdedlift4879 Yeah that scene looked really funny like a comedy skit. All of them all bending at the same angle flying away at the same time.
There are more films in which such a near-death experience is shown in close-up and repeated than there would be Terminators, if they were real... There are fear-filled, tear-stained faces everywhere in close-up with groans and moans.
Man, I really love the sound design of the machines in this movie. The almost-constant "vocalizations"/sound of their servos really increases the menace of their presence.
exactly! it was soo different from any other movies!
yea for sure, electric motobikes with petrol engine sound, so nice
IKR
Always thought that, too. Especially when Marcus first encountered the t600
Shooting a non pressurized container of flammable substance with a non explosive projectile with no effect broke the movie logic "It didn't work!", that was fantastic😂😂😂 big props for the realism
Take a look at this nerd
Yeah
It actually does work, just not well. All you need is a spark
still very dangerous and possible, since bullets often make sparks once hitting metal surfaces.
so although i would agree i also wouldn't bet my life on that.
@@SkinhoundI think the leak is not fast enough to reach the spark before it fades. Unless you shoot the tank again and create a spark when the substance is ALREADY leaking.
i admire how the giant robot snuck up on them silently yet in all subsequent scene its super noisy.
I always like to think of it tip toeing along like Megamind in his mech. 😂
Well it seems to me that the ground robot is deployed from the big airship so the silent approach is somewhat doable. You can see it "boarded" on the airship during the bridge scene
@@madmanjoe1002lmao
It was on silent mode
@@1260451 The giant ship with turbines and gets? That one is also weirdly silent when not on screen.
John Connor: "Evasive maneuvers now"
Pilot: "Oh yeah thanks for the heads up I wouldn't know otherwise to try and evade the thing that just blew my friend up."
exactly my thoughts, in many chase/battle scenes the commanding officer usually says that as if it is meant something.
commanding office usually deals with macro issues, micro management ( to a certain degree ) is usually left to field personnel, thats why its important to have a "good pilot" otherwise anyone who could follow simple orders would be able to carry out the demanding tasks that these people are put through
@@condor07uk You haven't seen the arrogance in some pilots then. Also, anyone considered it was not given as an order, but as a person concerned for the life of the pilot, i.e. a good friend - if that was your friend, wouldn't you be shouting the same at them?
To add to that some people might get blocked so to say when presented with a scenario ie people seeing a car stopped in the highway and not avoidong it or pilots taking command of the plane and countering the commands given by their copilot domming the aircraft. Air France comes to mind with that 777 incident over the sea
@@condor07ukThey say that for the audience, not for the pilots.
The pilot obviously wasn't in his right mind after his plane took all that port-side damage.
The sound effects team nailed it in these scenes
Remember, when people said it wasn't a good movie? Yeah, we were spoiled back than...
Other than John Connor’s Batman voice, it really was a decent movie. Only to have the franchise ruined by Daenerys Targaryen.
I had mixed feelings after I left the
cinema. I watched it yesterday on blu ray and it was surprisingly good! Some movies needs time
@@Robert-tu6di Also since then we saw how bad a "Terminator" movie could be, so even with all it's flaw it's not so bad.
Some ppl are just slow haha@@Robert-tu6di
Because movies today are terrible. I used to love movies, popcorn, surround sound, ice cold coke and snacks. I don't even watch tv now because everything is pushing some kind of agenda/propaganda. It's like some kind of apocalypse is on the horizon and we'll be telling our great grand kids about how great it used to be. 😂
who would've thought this was going to be the last good Terminator movie 😔
Oh dear.
Wasn’t even considered good at the time. Definitely a Star Wars prequel situation, where we definitely got mid movies but we had no idea how much worse it could get
exactly@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy
I must interject on behalf of the Star Wars prequels, they are, actually, amazing
@@sylph4252 they were extremely ambitious and creative, I will give you that, and that is a masterpiece compared to the AI written slop we’ve been getting
When Marcus got slammed down on top of that carrier and skipped across the water like a stone I knew he was not completely human.
I laughed at that.
@@UNSCSpartanS114-g6e Marcus gets slammed, exploded to the point of having his guts out, and fire bombed. Yet he dies when they take his heart out? Doesn't look like he even needed human organs to live)))
@@CoolGobyFish i’m not exactly sure, but I thought it said that he was a cyborg
Wow dude, thanks for the spoiler. For the record I planned to watch this when it came out but I’ve been busy.
@ dude this movie is almost 15 years old you’ve had plenty of time to watch it.
3:43 This part right here has been permanently etched into my brain since 2009.
Totally. The movie itself is mediocre but this scene is top notch. So cool.
What bad motorcycle riders imagine in their head when they say "I had to lay it down"
RIP Anton Yelchin. He was great in this movie Star Trek.
This isn't Star Trek.
@@ArchangelExile No shit Sherlock.
Even though those movies were disgusting, I don't fault the actors
We miss you, Charlie Bartlett.
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Ahh, finally, you're a fan of the terminator salvation. I love that movie. Also, I am your subscriber.
Real
Lol.
Good idea honestly
LMAOOO
One of the most terrifying terminators in the entire series
I put it second or third behind T-800 and T-1000.
@@jexelbur6872 I can agree its the 3rd most scary Terminator in all the films! The sound of it is menacing! It has some pretty accurate shooting (unless it gets blasted in a heap of smoke and fire). It carries two motorcycle Terminators within its legs. And it has the support of its own ship and 2 HK ships too. This thing was a beast. Imagine if SkyNet made the T800 this big!
The thing that strikes fear into me is the inhumanity of it. You don’t get the closure of seeing a persons face kill you; you see a large machine. It doesn’t care if you live or die. It does what it is programmed to do, with no thought.
@@kindnessark8064yeah, it's fuckin BS
@@hazardeurcry more chode.
I like the 2 motorbike things with 2 plasma rifles on each side choosing not to fire for like 2 minutes lol.
It can't do that much damage like the big gun because they're too small. They were trying to aim for the crucial target like the engine, the wheels and the driver
Mebbe limited power cells.
I like how the robots turn into easily rideable human vehicle motorcycles when hurt
I believe the two moto-terminators goal is to track the get away humans. The secondary objective appears to be stopping the humans by firing at the truck. But I believe these are likely designed to mostly track and follow. This is because the Harvester ship and HK both find the truck on the bridge despite having driven very far away from the attack scene. Its likely the moto-terminators have a tracking system onboard so the HK or Harvesters can find them.
Another possibility for the Moto-Terminators not opening fire much could be down to power consumption. We see a majority of Terminator units still use human standard bullet guns and not laser blasters. The blasters are mostly seen on larger units like Harvesters, HK's, and Torrents. Considering this is also the early days of SkyNet its extremely likely the moto-terminators only has a very limited amount of power to use blasters like these on such a small infiltration unit.
According to canon, the mototerminators' purpose is to roundup fleeing humans so the Harvester can catch up and collect them. They attack seeking to disable the vehicle instead of outright destroying it.
"You brought them here." He actually did.
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@@HAJET777Nice
@@HAJET777 Either I'm being thick, or I don't understand?
Yea, What they did to Marcus was genuinely F* up and heart breaking.. Bro didn't know he was being played, serving the machines side all along.
It's fun to rewatch knowing this. There's more than a handful of scenes during the initial watch like skipping across the river, where I was like "no way a human would survive that." Well turns out that was true.
The harvester sound effects were on point. It's a terrifying electric warble that chills to your bones.
Sounded like a Michael Bay Transformers fight scene.
It's even more terrifying when played on a good sound system with sub woofer
Great stuff as always from Worthington. His portrayal of a vaguely confused cyborg with zero emotional range was dead on. Why, I don't think there was a single instant in that whole movie where he seemed in danger of expressing something a human being might identify as a feeling. What a fantastic actor.
what a f%&k
The late 2000s to early 2010s was just a massive push for Sam Worthington to be the next "guy" in Hollywood.
😂 like seriously who was he banging to get this many lead roles
Salvation was such a great movie. If they would of just continued the series following salvation and not try to reboot the damn thing, ot would of probably been better.
it was a shit m ovie in a long series of shit movies. it is less shit than some others but it's still a pile of shit
I agree they hit the nail on the head, it’s unfortunate they didn’t continue this story line it was great.
Story was ok except the Marcus storyline was hemmed in. Didn't belong.
@@ankhmorpok1497 Marcus was a new secret Skynet infiltrator prototype. His arch seemly ended when he willingly donated his heart to the injured John Connor. The second part would explore more his legacy. It is a shame WB chose to cancel the project for a regrettable reboot.
No no. Skynet is now! Reboot reboot!!!
The sound design in this movie is absolutely phenomenal
Saw this in theaters and let me tell you, my gut CHURNED when this scene came on, it felt like a real nightmare. My Dad even said he was worried he wouldn't know what to do to protect me and my sister in a situation like this. The size of the robot and the noises were far more jarring in theater, especially when it wasn't expected. GREAT SCENE.
This big size machine was able to tiptoe to their hideout and capture humans😂😂
Yeah I never got that either, was it like on Stealth mode lol
@@strikeforcealpha9343It is carried by the big HK by air dudes.
😂
@@darthjumpfinally, someone got it
Tiptoe. That's a good one.
Why people ever disliked this movie I have no idea. It was the first terminator movie I saw and it’s still great
Your second statement explains your first.
It was great until the third act.
They just wanted more purple lasers
My dad and I both agree this is the last great one. Salvation is his favorite while 2 is my favorite
@@Kurlach This wasn't my first terminator but it was still great
The terminators making those sounds is downright scary, if not terrifying. And this is the best terminator film by far
Seriously this is the best ? wow
Best? Its crap. Just like genisys and woke one
@@MarkSkater yes it is
Say what you want, man. We all have different tastes.@@Watcher4111
Second and this one. No doubts
The designs of the moto-Terminators are cool but they feel too advanced for the time period, where nearly everything else was chunky, heavy, and not very fast. Salvation wasn't great, but it was still a lot better than the Terminator movies that followed. They should have stayed in this era instead of abandoning it after one film.
Completely agree. They have literally butchered that franchise, stomped it into the ground. It’s a goddamn shame what Hollywood has become.
How is an AI-controlled gyrostabilized motorcycle more advanced than an 18-meter-tall titan with a long-range plasma cannon?
It's not practical to make everything hyper advanced, Skynet would be constantly recalling all units for upgrades whenever it discovered something new that could be implemented. My theory is that the harvesters are newer and fewer in number and specific for a simple task, and were equipped with the existing moto-terminators to mitigate the spread of knowledge about them, as the movie does establish the harvesters to be part of a secret program by skynet.
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@@eanna3781 ye I'd think so too
0:58 Lego Yoda death sound
Someone else noticed!
Honestly I really didn’t understand why people didn’t like this movie, it’s one of my favorites
If you gave some people a $100.00 bill, they'd complain that it was wrinkled. Some people are just never satisfied.
The bad writing is my reason for thinking its average.
If you can ignore flaws then yeah maybe you will like this.
But for me, I can't ignore bad design.
@@user-kh7tg8my4nwhatever man
Sam's scream is best I've ever heard. He nails it in every performance❤
Jake sully and Chekov vs a giant mech and motorcycles how fun.
"Eavsive maneuvers now!"
"DUDE I'M IN A FUCKING A-10!"
I watched those crates turn complete circles within Bincombe valley. Between the Knoll and Tout Down - never left the bowl of the valley. Watched F-15s performing turns over the same area: entered stage left, exited stage right, went beyond Sutton Poyntz, Came Down and Ridgeway Hill before they were back over Bincombe.
A-10s can fucking turn; they're just slow.
Dont underestimate the A-10.
They're made to perform at slower airspeeds.
They're not supersonic.
But they got the "traction" of two turbofans. Pushes them along better. Which helps keep their energy in tight turns.
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@@AndrewGivens Yeah and how does that exactly build up to your argument? they can't dog fight because they will bleed all their energy faster than most planes because it is not designed to dogfight
@@davecrupel2817 "do not underestimate the A-10" you are literally fighting a super fighter built by a rogue super intelligent AI who knows the best possible way to build a fighter and defeat another. what you shouldn't underestimate is the missiles A10s used in the war. Apart from that they are helpless against another fighter because first of all who tf dogfights these days? second of all, even if they decided to dogfight every single other aircraft is faster and can disengage easily if they feel uneasy about the situation. Lastly, even if the A10 is built for slower speed who tf is gonna fall for it? everyone knows that and they simply won't take the fight to the A10s advantage. its a terrible aircraft still
@@davecrupel2817 yeah that literally doesn’t matter. They are fucking terrible for dogfighting because that’s not what they’re designed for.
I love the harvester, it’s a badass design, that looks and sounds cool. I love when it walks out of the flames, like “yeah okay, nice try mfers” 😂
Thanks for the comment, was thinking the same..😁🤣👍👍
CGI now:🤮
CGI then:🤯
Weird isn it. The ones back then look nore real. I saw a scifi movie onCW with top notch CGI, years ago. Looked so real.
Bro flew up and flipoed like he was maverick. 😂there can be only one
I know CGI then makes me want to bust a fat nut.
I never understood why there were so many haters. This and the Sarah Connor Chronicals were some of my favourite additions to the franchise. They need a new TV series to do it justice.
Writing sucked.
Screw the haters; this is one of my favorite Terminator movies for this fun sequence alone. It's got everything.
It's kinda sad that this is the only Terminator movie that entirely takes place in the future after Judgement Day, and probably the only movie that got A-10 gun sound close to what it supposed to sound irl.
Kinda funny how at 3:00 he says "hell yeah!" when they just also killed like 30 people who were stuck in the belly of the harvester
i thought so too at first, but just before the explosion, you can see the terminator ship, with all the people in it, take off in the background
Rip to Anton. Was such a good actor.
0:10 seven eleven is still alive in future
This was probably the best of the new terminator movies .
>we wanted movie from the apocalypse in Terminator universe
>we got it
>we hated it
why are we like this anons ??
Because going by the scene, this is a really lousy movie with nonsensical action scenes that should’ve been written better with the budget and the capacities available to them. That this movie is better than a lot of subsequent movies is just salt in the wound.
@@JoeOvercoat Yup sums it up! Could'nt have put it better, Totally agree. 😎👍
If the other scenes was something more sci-fi, plasma shots everywhere, a bunch of soldiers with high tech equipment, john connor... Now this one is just a normal war between modern machines... not like the last terminator war scenes...
@@JoeOvercoat your existence is a salt in the wound for this francise. Touch Grass
@@Omenyos This movie clearly mentioned the early war era were plasma weapons were strictly reserve to heavy machines, bikes and aircraft. It is a shame Salvation trilogy got quietly canned for garbages.
6:55 the moment he got smashed into the airplane was the moment I knew that he has to be "different"
Terminator salvation and terminator 1 are my favourite terminator movies
Yup and they really do go hand in hand of the parallels they really complete eatch other from beginning to end more so I would say then T2 does
1 The T800 scene trying to grab John’s face just like Sarah at the end of the terminator
2 The T800 walking up the stairs leg shot jast as it was in T1 factory chase
3 The T600 scene while John is crawling just as Sarah was crawling away from the T800
4 Sarah’s picture
5 The gas station of salvation a call back to Terminator 1 gas station
6 Kyle Reese’s learning the shot gun strap as he knows it in T1 delete extra extended scene
7 Johns face to face talk about terminator 1 events to Marcus
8 Kyle there was one men who tought us to fight he turn it around he brought us back the foreshadowing in T4 the terminator camps
9 John now protecting his would be teen father just as he will In The terminator protecting his unborn son
Yeah pretty much this is also why T1 and T4 are my favorite yes there are Direct story plot references to Terminator 2 JD and even T3 especially with the skynet knowing about John’s dad which you can thank Sarah for that in the hospital plus 10 years later Skynet resurrected as the INTERNET 🛜 which People thought was a plot hole 🕳️ and not useing there brains of thinking of the terminator lore up to this point LMFAO 🤣
But yeah you get it T4 was truly a love letter to what preceded it but the biggest lore letter connection was T1 being its sequel-prequel and all
Helldivers 2 about to be ridiculous.
😂 oh my god yes that would be super awesome
Too bad the mechs have poo poo armour.
@Saicofake and ammo goes dry faster than Lake mead.
If the Automatons have these things we're about to be in a whole world of trouble 😱
@@AC-iz7ehcalling it now, they’re gonna have these types in due time.
The bike Terminators were sick Salvation had cooler designs for the machines than any recent film.
The sound design in this fit is incredible
Such an underrated movie. The heart transplant at the end ruined what should have been a masterpiece.
I Just noticed their getaway truck kinda looks like scourge form the newest transformer movie
This movie was the best of the Terminator sequels, after T2, in my humble opinion.
The Harvester is like Soundwave. A terrifying menace that has mini transformers stored inside itself.
I think this is the best movie of Terminator saga after Terminator 2
I loved this film. Bloody good film.
Love that unique Skynet sound❤
Gotta love Mc G.
Dude has an eye & ear for action sequences, sound design, & flair.
Music videos, Charlie’s Angels 1 & 2, The Babysitter, and Terminator: Salvation just to name a few.
Watching the motorcycle take out the FK Carrier port side engine is pure gold, er’ry time.
love the fact that the oil explosion roasted the humans as well!
Just here for the A10 scene
Same here
@@A-Warthog-cc1wm And the keen eye should note - the A-10 is a ground support attack aircraft - being used as an Air interceptor in this - showing how utterly defeated the humans are - that their entire interceptor squadrons are destroyed - and relying on ground attack aircraft to fill the role - hence the HK easily taking them out.
When the war would of started - F-22, F-35s would of been first in, and wiped out, then back ups - F-18, F-15s, F-14, F-16 and so on down the list - loosing all your forces until you have basically A-10s, and bombers left.
Using the A-10s in this scene was A tiny little detail for the keen minded eye, and those with military knowledge to pick up on how destroyed humans forces are.
Also FUCK YEAH the A-10, fucking awesome aircraft - just not for dog fights.
@@rianmacdonald9454 honestly, I think it’s because the A-10 a solid aircraft that doesn’t require many electronics or any that could taken over by skynet, also love it so much
@@rianmacdonald9454 FR
@@rianmacdonald9454 Terminator Dark Fate: fucking antigravity transport with plasma rifles. Even A-10s looks too good for human that have to hide in severages
This part right here was pretty much the only reason to watch this movie. I love everything about this sequence - even the sounds of the machines.
Special effects hold up nicely
Anyone else notice the harvester appears to rely on large, albeit advanced diesel engines for main power. Clever attention to detail from the production designer that tells us the robots are advanced but not quite advanced (at the year it's set) to enable a small fusion fuelcell to run a very large machine.
8:20 They've never been this deep before? THE MACHINE TOWN IS RIGHT THERE!
The concept of this film was really cool! Just a real shame the quality was not as good as it could of been! I loved the part where the 2 resistance planes come flying in and take on an HK and the Harvester. But the Harvester clearly shows it can sustain a spare HK for protection and I love that the HK very quickly locks on the two planes to a point where it blows them both out of the sky within mere moments.
This scene clearly shows if the humans can get the surprise they can beat the machines but once the machines are in chase there is no chance of winning.
Also because they were trying to dogfight in fucking a10s
We always forget how much love and effort goes into sound effects for movies like this and Bay Transformers.
the DEEP grumbling sound the robot makes or the terminator models in general just really help how scary it is.
I think that Terminator is the base of ROTB’s Scourge’s design. Worth it!
When I first saw this movie and saw that thing I was like, thank God we did not have to fight that thing in the old movies 😅
I would still say this is the 3rd best terminator movie
I liked Salvation before "liking it became cool".
Why don't people like this movie? It's awesome.
Man, the motorbike calculating it's needed trajectory to evade debris is such a nice detail to remind you of what they're dealing with.
It's interesting how much effort they go through to take the humans alive. Its also cool how the ship waits a bit before immediately vaporizing the truck after there aren't anymore humans inside.
I laughed when he hit the water and bounced & skipped. I did the same thing when I tried water skiing.
Some people said this movie was bad and was too much like transformers (some psychopaths even say it’s the worst in the franchise, like have they even watched a terminator sequel) I thought it was freaking awesome. It’s the only original sequel that moves forward instead of rebooting itself, it’s great to finally see the future they keep talking about, even though it’s PG13 the grittier and more realistic tone is a nice welcome, while not all the characters are super interesting you do care for them, it’s the only terminator sequel that isn’t just another Terminator 2, the visuals are really cool and realistic and still hold up, and the action scenes and set pieces are great. This might be a super controversial take but ‘Terminator Salvation’ is my second favourite terminator movie behind ‘Terminator 2 Judgment Day’
Very underrated movie
It’s pretty nice of that robot to not kill any of the main characters, despite having hundreds of opportunities.
Just goes to show that the Machines aren’t such bad guys after all!
Honestly the mechanical robot sounds, no music blaring in the background, a really cool scene that doesn’t feel like some forced big cinematic moment
This is the best action sequence in any Terminator since T2.
I also miss Anton Yelchin. In the end, he was killed by a machine.
I like how the hunter seeker drone did not crashing down because they throw a damn motocycle
Damn, that A10 moving like a Grippen
Praise the ones that fought on Malevelon Creek
You're a survivor?
@@Far-Reez Unfortunately. Was only able to save half a squad mate. Extract was hot. We all ran to the pelican. I was first in with my squad only feet behind me... I sat and turned around and saw the horror... All 3 mutilated on the cargo bay door. Only when a devastator rocket hit, launching B3's torso into the cargo hold did the pilot take off. Holding my friends gurgling torso in my lap, he mustered his last bloody scream "Have a cup of Liber-tea for me..." So as acting Death Captain Prime of the ship Founding Father of Family Values, I choose violence from here and forever more on any evil put fourth in front of myself, my weapons of destruction and my guard dog!!!!
3:48 The stuntmen must have had a lot of experience playing the role of moto-terminators.
5:55 One of the reasons why i would add a way to cut the cable on a tow truck.
I mean, even in reality there where a lot situations where tow trucks where pulled away because the vehicle they where connected to made a sudden/unintended move.
I know this movie is kind of polarizing, but if nothing else I really liked how they portrayed the war of the machines after Judgement Day. The flashbacks to that time in the previous movies and TV show were some of my favorite parts of the franchise, and I’m honestly surprised it took them this long to make a movie set in that time period. The time traveling aspect of Terminator is kind of tapped dry at this point, but I think another movie set after Judgement Day could actually be pretty good, if for no other reason than fighting big robots is fun to watch.
this movie had book of eli vibes
So that’s why I always thought it reminded me of another movie
cause its brown and has a lot of raggy clothes
I was 9 years old woke up in a hospital after something happened pretty good movie loved it
0:46 We'll know Skynet is coming when gasoline is $1.35 a gallon.
3:05 so where were all the prisoners when everything blew up??
And why did this thing collect people to be processed later? Did I miss that part? In other movies, they just try to kill all the humans on the spot.
Tho now I do remember the first movie talked about processing centers… You’d still think AI machines would have a more efficient system, lol!
at 2:45 you can see the ship with all the prisoners take off, behind the 7/11 sign. And iirc correctly they are collecting humans to process into t-800s or w/e
Best scene in the whole film. Outstanding.
In 2024 this movie still holds up. Might I say better than most current movies. God the 2010s really had a magic I didn't realize till it's gone. Now it's all woke this race that.
0:17 They start flying backwards 10 frames before the explosion even goes off. 2:49 The aerial shot has no giant Terminator in the explosion. 4:23 The overpass and rubble are behind them, then the overpass is above them and the rubble is in front of them and hits the window, then the overpass and rubble are behind them again.
I'm not sure if this is incredibly sloppy work or if the poor crew were in a race against time to get this out by the release date.
This scene is so much better than all Furiossa film.
But that constant turbo flatter from the truck is nice
When you realize that's the same gas station where Sarah Connor got her picture taken.
2:23 What was the harvester doing for this entire "here's a flare, let me give it to you slowly" part?
Shit like that would never happen in a Cameron movie. This is a guy that added detail like having the cop car window be blown out as a dummy GL round was shot through the window in the office window shootout scene in T2. Because that is what made sense. You don't even notice half the details he got right.
Super goid take on the film franchise very well done
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The bass in the scene is unreal cool
7:26 how Marcus rolled😂
look's like a rag
After all these years, the A-10 is still used 😂
Is it only me or is there a Roblox "oof" sfx on 2:23 time mark, when the bullet lands?
Damn I was only a kid when I first saw this movie lol love it
Unironically one of the scariest sounds ive ever heard in my life, maybe because its something that would never be heard in nature ever, a new threat
the Harvester dropped two moto-terminators and somehow they had 3 chasing them. A third magically shows up for the plot device of slamming into the engine of the hunter killer which in the next scene the hunter killer completely forgets it has a failing engine and turns around to shoot the truck still weighing it down. Gotta love when movies don't give a shit about continuity.