mandy stavik: a thanksgiving cold case solved after 30 years
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- mandy stavik was a bright, athletic student with plenty of potential. in 1989, her life was cut short in rural whatcom county, washington. it would be three decades of hard work and creative investigating before justice was finally served in her case.
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I'm glad his own family had the morals and values to not lie for that SOB.
Wish he had a fraction of moral that his family members have...
I much agree; but, why give his ass just 27 years! HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE DEATH PENALTY!
To a degree, yes. But they knew he was asking them to lie for him for several years. It's good they didn't lie at the trial but they still covered for him for at least 4 years.
@@MARLONdaman Because Washington state has had a moratorium on the death penalty since 2014 and was abolished in 2018, prior to the trial. Had he been convicted much closer to when he committed the crime he likely would have been executed.
Actually Tim's mother did lie for him. While she refused to blame it on her deceased husband she had no qualms to state in court that her son was innocent and that Tim had never asked her to lie on his behalf.
This story bothers me. The fact that it was so close to home, that the killer was essentially a stalker, and that he so ruthlessly tried to cover it up nearly 30 years after the fact is heartbreaking. That man was willing to frame his deceased father and his brother for his act of callousness. I hope he never sees the light of day again.
I’ve yet to meet a murderer who considers the thoughts and feelings of others
Yeah, that's called a sociopath.
It shouldn't have taken 28 or so years to get the killer's DNA. Weird guy who lived down the street from the victim, had made disturbing advances to other young girls, and had apparently refused to give DNA early on in the investigation, which should have been a major red flag.
Two siblings lost in murder?!!! How utterly heartbreaking story.
Yeah what are the odds?
Geez, that’s awful
And he was shot 17x?! Who shoots someone 17 times?
PlAiN JaNe .....I wondered that. He must have pissed someone off or hand a run in with a psychopath. Possibly both. Though, wasn’t that on a military base?
Avid Swam Some people have more than their share of tragedy.
The lady that collected that evidence is my hero. No money given to her, she did it anyways. Good for her. I would love to buy her a drink 🥃
That because she respect life
same here … she needs to be given a medal.
I would've cooperated with police the first time
The point is she risked her own safety to steal his DNA. She is a brave lady.
Marilyn Schmidt she didn’t know what it was all about at that time though too.
Ever notice how someone so wonderful is destroyed by someone so ugly.
Seems to happen too often. I can think of a couple of very similar atrocities off the top of my head. Maybe these things have always happened through history. One of the many huge defects in humanity I guess. It’s kind of a depressing thought. Oh well, I’ve got to focus on something else.
Should have tested the guilty dudes brother 's DNA to get close. Yeah, professional detectives my butt!
Consensual sex? In your dreams you pos!!!!!
That describes America's evolving riff raff trashed out populace!
@@contactjohndavis2479 do you actually think that America is the only country with "riff raff trashed out populace"? What country are YOU from?
That poor mother having two of her children brutally murdered 😢
So tragic
Mandy. We. Love. U.
@Brendan Cronin I'm guessing he's stereotyping black people with gang culture and therefore a black American woman losing her kids to gang violence. Nevertheless, it was a completely unnecessary and unfunny remark.
@@12yearssober the only problem is that it was neither of those things :/
@@12yearssober Wrong and wrong.
I lost my daughter to a drunk driver when she was 10 I can’t imagine having to live through losing 2 of my children I wouldn’t survive it
You've done well to come this far-good wishes to you.
So sad. And what a pretty young girl.
❤
I am sorry can't imagine your sorrow.
Hi Jo, my deepest condolences. People that drive while under the influence disgust me. They are dangerous losers. I have not even once considered driving even after only one sip in my 35 years driving.
The guy had no remorse at all. What a waste of a life. She was so smart, talented and beautiful. Sad story. Hope her mother can finally find some peace.
Sadly a murderer is the most respected crime in prison among other prisoners. Here's hoping he suffers greatly and spends eternity in hell.
@@Erin-Thor Not when they've raped & killed a vulnerable young woman like Mandy! They're usually treated not much better than pedophiles!
Lets hope they catch her brothers murderer too. Shot 17 times.. that sounds personal as hell.
Jane Miettinen two strangers in the world having the exact same thought at the exact same time. 🥂
Mario Lipton
What a really horrible thing to say about anyone’s murdered child. It’s EXTREMELY disrespectful to their families and friends who are still trying to find answers. Every single parent thinks their child is beautiful. Please don’t be so off-handed about any of these families or their murdered children. The LOL at the end doesn’t lighten up the comment. Please, before posting something like that, think how every parent would feel reading that.
Putting his mom in the MIDDLE, what a COWARD, Trying to involve all these innocent people, Glad his family did the right thing!!
This is extremely commonplace.
@@UncleKennysPlace commonplace where 😳 I can't see that being commonplace anywhere!
Wow! Thank god her mother was still alive to know they solved the case!
Closure is important. A person needs to heal. January 2021
@@hersheysfloyd indeed
@@hersheysfloyd oil
Thank God for Kim. She was more important to investigation than the Police.
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I low-key cried when they said on her mom's 81st birthday she was made aware of an arrest. I'm so happy this creepster got caught finally. He robbed that girl..he deserves what ever he gets.
Kristi Wallace yes!
Perhaps only 30 seconds, 30 minutes, hours, days, weeks, months or years may he suffer terribly and then his true sentence will begin in Hell. Rest in peace, Mandy. GOD bless you.
Me too.
That poor mother. Thank the scientists for the use of DNC in all these cold cases. I love it when they think that they have got away with it for years and then they get caught. Can you imagine how many murderers are sitting out there just waiting for the knock on the door. I hope they feel constantly tortured by that thought.
Made me tear up too
Gotta love that even his own family turned their backs on him.
But the brother should have gone to the police when he was asked to lie.
Not like Chris Watts' stupid family saying how much they forgive him. Some things can be forgiven but slaughtering your whole family isn't one of them.
If only they could have come forward sooner.
@@daisymaefrench4041 I think Watt's family (his mother for sure) are sociopaths/narcissists like he is. These were good hearted people who were rightly suspicious and appalled, family member or no.
30 year too late....they should all be charged for helping him get away with it........no way his parents didn't know he was defective since he was born................
My favorite type of video is a solved case
Agreed, but I also like the unsolved ones even though they're even more heartwrenching, because I always hope that they can raise awareness and lead to new information to help solve the case!
Damn right!
Agreed !!!! 👍👍⚖️
Mine also - I love Heavy Casefiles, but only watch the solved ones..
Ah yes, my LEAST favorite type of video is an unsolved/cold case!!
So glad they nailed this monster. I can’t imagine the heartbreak of that poor mother - losing two children to murder.
I remember when this girl went missing but I'd lost track of the story. I was unaware that her body had been recovered so I thought she was still missing. I live in the next county. All I knew about her was that she was. a pretty blond girl. I knew nothing about all of her accomplishments. I'm amazed to learn how talented she was. She was truly amazing.
I was also unaware that someone had finally been caught and sent to prison for this. I'm glad I found this video and finally have the missing pieces of the puzzle. It's always disturbed me that this girl had just vanished into thin air. Seems so clear now that young men living on that road should have been the first suspects. I've done a little research and I've learned that she's buried in a little Catholic cemetery near her family home. I'm going to go find her grave and pay my respects. Thank you for posting this video.
Kim is a hero! Thank you Ma’am for your efforts to fine justice for this young lady!
She should have gotten the reward!
She's awesome. The cops were really tenacious on this one too. Great result. Now do the brother's case, Alaska.
@@TheSmiaf Right she should've gotten the reward money
This is a heartbreaking story of another beautiful young woman destroyed by a man. I hope that his appeal is rejected.
She gave him 3 more years of freedom though.
When I think 30 years ago I think the 70's not 1989. Insane how fast 30 years flew by.
Her poor family living with no answers for such a long time. Hope they find some measure of peace now. Losing 2 children to murder seems unbearably unfair.
Theresa F boy you said it
Me too Theresa.
I was born in 92. I feel so old
I know! I still have a late 90's mindset. So I trip out when I realize the late 90's were over TWO decades ago!
Especially since one of their murders still remains unsolved.
Wow! What a horrible person. He not only murdered someone, but aggressively tried to throw his own family members (including his dead father) under the bus for the crime. Special place in hell
Wtf r u on about woman?
Pamela Morris your*
He's isn't going to hell
Rejected Dan oh yes he is
@@madmoiselle007 hell is non-existent
This guy was the lowest of the low, what a creep!! Sounds like Mandy was an amazing & much loved person!!
He should serve life period. He took a life. THEN lied about it.
wood chipper
@s Death is way to easy. Suffering is what they deserve and life in prison at a super max will have anyone begging for death. 23 hours a day locked into an 8x10 concrete cage and one hour of sunlight outside, every day in solatary until you die. Check out the documentaries on it, drives people crazy. They have to take away any means that could be used as a tool for suicide because death is easy in comparison to living like that.
I agree. Why on God’s Green Earth would he get less than life?
@@williambrandondavis6897 Why should we all have to pay for his actions over his life?
@@duvessa2003 what gets me is even with life without parole,they STILL get appeals & can get out early!!
When the dog returned home you could see how upset he was it's a pity he couldn't talk
Barry Bethal Dogs CAN talk, you just have to listen to them. I’ll bet that had someone taken the dog past a line of suspects, the truth would have come out.
I'll bet that's why the dog was too frightened to get off the porch. The killer lived a couple doors down, the dog was spooked by whatever the ass did to him when he was attacking Mandy. The dog knew the killer was close by. If the dog was younger and being a German shepherd I would like to think he would have tore the killer a new asshole and again whenever he saw him next door, just ripped into him. The poor old dog was traumatized!
"He moved out of the town shortly after Mandy's murder", otherwise the dog would probably have had done that...?
Lindy Brown if Kyra had been younger and stronger, any German would rip someone apart before leaving but I’m glad Kyra went home to get her family and have Mandy’s body found so soon.
What a time for the dog whisper
This man would have thrown his wife, brother, mother and dead father under the bus?!? What a POS. I hope he"s being looked at for other unsolved cases. 💔 RIP Mandy 💔
Plus trying to tarnish the reputation of the girl he murdered, yea this guy is a peach. Theres one word to describe people like him, Sociopath!
Agreed, he's absolutely despicable, and a coward on top of that!
@@trent3872 Thankfully, the guy's family refused to go along with it. Lots of credit to them to not be manipulated by this sociopath.
@Enda Dorgan so you are a dick head sociopath too? Congrats.
@@trent3872 It's possible Enda meant the killer but did not phrase it well.
That poor family, I'm glad there's closure for Mandy and her family, she was a beautiful young woman. I hope one day, her brothers case is solved too.
I know I saw another video about this case and my heart aches for the mom, so horrible for her to have to live through this. 😓
@@jaxxiet5851 She's a strong woman to have lived through this. I'd give up if I'd lost one kid, let alone two. I don't even have words for how awful the situation is, but silver lining is there has been partial closure. You'd have to be severly jaded/void to not tear up over this family's loss
What's going through my mind is that line from a song "only the good die young" 😥😥 She was such an accomplished girl. And so pretty !!!!! So terribly sad that this family lost two children .
he maybe did that Murder too. I hope he gets justice in jail. May God bless that poor family so sad. brings tears.
@@bwghall1 ..... probably did do it ... being a small rural area ... so he knew the brother was shot 17 times , had to have heard that story .... he was afraid of him probably also .... then he just going to victimize the family and had to move or for sure get caught .... i think he did it also
R.I.P Mandy.
She seemed like a great person.
I lovely, shining, beautiful human being. May her brilliant soul Rest In Peace. ♥😭♥
If there's a next world after this nightmare, she will light up that world long term.
wow, Timothy really was a piece fo work, even 25 years later he was pulling every straw to get away...
Well I would not want to have him next to me if there's a WW3.🤣👍🍺
She must have been a wonderful person judging from the amount of people, including the murderers own brother, who went out of their way to see justice was served.
I know. That mans a creep. After murdering her trying to make her look bad and even his own dead father to cover for his crime. But what do you expect from a rapist killer? No respect for anybody.
She had wonderful neighbors and friends also.
A wonderful person indeed....🥀😔💔 She had so much more to accomplish in life. RIP Mandy
Sorry but that lady who collected the evidence should've got that $25k reward. She risked her safety and her job. Just saying.
They had already donated the reward money to the scolarship well before she collected the evidence for the police. Otherwise they certainly would have given it to her.
She obviously didn't care about the money. I would not be surprised if she would have refused to accept it and she was likely satisfied with the way it is being used. Just proof IMO that there ARE good people in the world.
She got paid, she helped lock that pos up. That’s reward enough for most. Helping a person shouldn’t be about money
Lady J the first comment literally explains why she didn’t get the money, honestly are you that stupid to not see it ? The comment is literally there.
@@alexiyahxoxo1377 That wasn't nice. Maybe she didn't read the other comments.
She would have been a wonderful person in their community or wherever she would have gone. My heart aches. And her poor dog. Losers and their sexual problems.
Isabella-so seriously though. So many assholes out there under the mercy of their own dicks. bunch of scumbag dipshits.
I’d say losers and their mental problems. Rape is much more about power, control, domination and hatred towards women than it is about sex. It’s the ultimate way to objectify, terrorize and completely strip a person of their dignity and that’s exactly what these losers are aiming for. And they get off on it literally.
@@greent6823 agreed, though I can't begin to truly understand what would make someone do such a terrible thing. It makes me so sick when I imagine that scumbag watching her run past his house and fantasizing about it for god knows how long. It sadly took a long time for them to catch him, but I'm glad they did and that her mother was hopefully able to find some peace, I can't imagine the pain of losing two children in such violent ways!
Yep men don't know the meaning of self control
Entitled little turds who resent that they can't have everything they want (apparently they think that they should) so they just take it and don't care who they hurt.
I see cases like this where a long time after the crime it turns out to be someone who lived nearby and who you would expect would be questioned by the police. This guy was apparently not questioned by the police at the time when there surely would have been a limited number of suspects in a quiet rural area like this. It would be pretty obvious that the killer was very likely a local person, this guy actually lived on the road she ran down and she passed by his house. Why would they not have spoken to him even if only to find out if he saw something that day and to establish an alibi which is a lot easier to verify a day or 2 instead of 30 years later. What if they had taken the dog with them as they interviewed the limited number of people along that road, would the dog have reacted to the person?
Well the narrator said the police went around collecting DNA and when they caught up with him he refused the first time then the second time years later
@@tonyl1483 He moved away shortly after the murder.
Tony L The refusal should have ringed a bell and his moving out.
They did question him. He refused to cooperate. He did not smoke. He always used gloves. He knew they wanted his DNA. I think the police did their due diligence. DO NOT blame them.
@@jws1948ja It said here he had never spoken to the police about the case and that he had moved away shortly after the murder.
His wife was on Evil Lives Here, he was always a virulent misogynist, hated women, and acted weird as hell.
Why did she marry him?
@@MrTruckerf Because women are attracted to those types.
@@truthseeker2321 Most people like that are good at hiding their true selves... at first.
No, normal women are not just "attracted to" guys like that. And you can see his wife realized what he was and divorced him.
@@JW-vd4il She's the rare one.
Ask any guy who has been in prison about the women pen pals.
There's women who don't want anything to do with a guy, who hasn't been to prison.
These women might have been rare 30 years ago, but this is getting to be trendy with them now.
@@truthseeker2321 I think you're hanging out with the wrong crowd, buddy.
Stay there if you want to, but you are not correct that that minority represents the majority.
You really aren't seeking truth well. Good luck to you.
Never ceases to amaze me how criminals won't hesitate to take a life, but when it's time to face the gallows, even after 30 yrs, they'll do and say anything to save their own skin. What a coward, I'm glad he's caught. Thanks for sharing, I remember this case, I lived in Wa. in 89'.
With lame prison sentences, the liberal Northwest is a magnet for killers.
It’s very true, malignant narcissists value only ONE thing = themselves
Yes I've thought that same thing myself several times in these kind of cases. It always amazed me as well.
Yes u right
I think it's amazing to anyone who recognizes the immense value of integrity. Your words, decisions and actions are consistent and your relationships are built on trust. I'd wager most (if not all) people associated with this deceitful coward hated him.
He became obsessed with the victim and repeatedly tried to ask her out, but after she rejected him one too many times, he decided to take her by force and then killed her to keep her from identifying him.
This same story has been repeated with different people in different places at different times - men who can't handle rejection and take out their frustration in violent ways.
Right, that was his motive. Probably a psychopath...
Yeah they're huge cowards that prey on those weaker than them.
@@gidget8717 Very well said.
@@gidget8717 Nice try, but no. There is no equivalent in terms of regularity and numbers. If you actually cared about male victims you'd talk about MALE attackers.
@@gidget8717 "But what about teh men????"
As a young boy the Bass family lived down the road from our farm, Tim’s Dad was a good man. He would have been very disappointed in his son if he was alive to witness the trial
Hmmm, makes you wonder how long he'll last in prison, and when he goes to the other side he'll feel shame from his dad before whatever happens next, you gotta wonder how people do these things with no consciousness what so ever, an evil spirit only answers!
This is So So So Heartbreaking.
She had so much to live for 💔
Do you know if they found Mandy's brothers killer?😨
God Bless them in Jesus Holy Name 🙏✝️🙏🏽🛐💔🕯️
@@ellenadams7354 17 shots is suspicious, that's for sure.
@@abelmcguire6252 lol stop watching so many movies, he’s doing fine in prison. Prison is easy peasy.
Pedophiles are usually housed with other pedophiles so they don’t get messed with and if they do, the person messing with them can literally be charged with a hate crime, so yeah most pedophiles and rapist are doing just fine in prison.
@@redflowers2611 you need to watch Larry Lawton’s UA-cam channel he goes in depth how pedophiles and rapists are treated in prison. Don’t get it twisted.
I feel so bad for the poor dog. You know she was hurt that her master was taken.
Starr Struck , her dog probably tried to protect her but was hit or whatever by the pig... Plus her dog is older
Yeah can't help but wish the German shepherd was young. Might have saved her
I care more about her and her family. Dogs are not people
@@tinat5484 You obviously don't own a dog. They ARE family.
My heart breaks for the dog....Her heart was broken 💔
That's sad what happend to her brother as well, Damn who shoots someone 17 times??? People are so heartless. I can only imagine the horror this family has had to endure. At least they may get some sort of light at the end of the tunle since her case was finally solved. 🙏😢. Great video.
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With all the people who are killed at military bases around the country with no explanation, it wouldn’t shock me if it was someone from the base he was allowed to hunt on
I hope they never let him out; it's the talented and bright people that evil-doers usually go after and succeed in killing them. Such a crying shame. Too bad they didn't get him sooner.
@@MrWombatty I too oppose the death penalty, but 27 years is not long enough for the worst crimes.
Disagree - thinking that we possibly notice the ' talented and bright' people / victims before the disadvantaged. ugly and vulnerable who I believe attract more 'evil- doers'
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I like to think of them suffering...
Indeed prison isn’t meant to be a zen place, it’s a punishment place, and some of those bad people already there sometimes exact their own punishment inside....probably happens more often than we know.
jealous and hateful losers
Wow, the outcome of this was so satisfying. The lady who got the cup with his DNA on it, his wife, & his family did the right thing. God bless all of them.
@@VioletJoy That's your very negative & close minded opinion. Hope you feel better now, after getting that off your chest.
@@VioletJoy To come on a stranger's post who is only trying to wish 2 families well after going through a tragedy and crapping all over it, is very negative & close minded. You only thought of your own beliefs as valid and didnt hesitate to let me know. That was very selfish & insensitive.
Satisfying but it came way too late.
@@VioletJoy you're dead on point...where was this "god" as this girl was brutalized and murdered? He watched, apparently, and didn't give a fuck about the years of suffering the family went through....wait, he doesnt exist..
God isn't going to do shit
So glad he was caught in the end and her family got some closure. Her poor parents must have been destroyed to lose two children to murder. Very sad.😢🏴
Save some celebrating for the next one! Watch that documentary movie "Unbelievable!" Just saying!
HOLD ON only 27 years there is so much wrong with our justice system. He's been free for longer and he tried to get his family to lie about it smh he deserves life.
Yes he does!But I've seen cases on The First 48 where people have gotten even less time than that for senseless murders!.I guess it depends on laws in different states.Smh.
@@TheErokk725 well washington state leans left.just saying
Life is 25 years, you mean he deserved multiple life sentences
I started bawling when the police told her mother that a arrest had been made on her birthday. I'm gonna be crying for a while
Timothy seemed so guilty as he was so afraid of his dna being tested. Glad he was caught
Jenna I hope they run his DNA for other unsolved cases. Definitely seems like a repeat offender.
@Pamela Morris 17 time's what? Same school's what? So interesting where people choose to add an apostrophe and then use them appropriately in the same sentence.
I think he should be in jail, but there is no way that the DNA should have been included as evidence. She didn't get the idea on her own, she was asked by the FBI prior to collecting it. It is evidence that was collected illegally. If they truly thought it was his, why didn't they get his brother's (proper use of apostrophe) DNA and then show that the killer was a male sibling? It's a pretty strait forward jump from there to a warrant to get Timothy's DNA. Keystone cops in an authoritarian state that doesn't care if it collects evidence illegally!
No one should have to give their DNA without a warrant, and it shouldn't be deemed suspicious to refuse a voluntary sample.
@@matthewbrooks5643 The DNA was not collected illegally under existing law. The DNA was collected from a plastic cup and coke can that was thrown away. The co-worker retrieved it. The Supreme Court held in California vs Greenwood a 1988 case that the 4th Amendment for illegal search and seizure does not apply to seizure of garbage because there is no expectation of privacy and is considered abandoned. Sorry but the FBI were within their rights to use the seized plastic cup and coke can as evidence.
He should have got Life without Parole or the Death Penalty. He could get out in 15 years with good behavior. I wonder if he ever did get out?
That mans family are a bunch of MVPs for refusing to protect him. Good on them...
But none of them came forward to police when the guy actually approached them with his suggestions, they just kept it for themselves until they were in a corner during the actual case.
@@Rustie_za the guy sounds like he was very manipulative. Maybe he managed to convince him he was just scared they were trying to pin the murder on him but he was "innocent"; it's very hard to accept your sibling or spouse is a monster, so perhaps they just believed he was making poor choices out of innocent fear, not criminal calculation. When the dna results came out that's probably what told them he'd done it.
@@Rustie_za It sounded like he didn't ask them for cover until he'd already been arrested. And they almost certainly did come forward with the information because otherwise they wouldn't have been called on to testify in court.
@@lindaliriel
But his wife was his girlfriend at the time of the murder, knew all along and did give false alibi for him.
I bet when he got arrested, she was scared she could be found guilty of giving false alibi; she applied for an order of protection and testified against him.
People would say because he threatened her, but how could she even married him and lived happily until the investigators found him.
I'm sorry but the woman like that is criminal minded person and doesn't deserve credit.
I live in central washington and my daughter attended Central Washington at the same time as Mandy. I spent over 20 years researching her murder. I talked with a detective on the case years ago and he mentioned a man who lived in the Sound area who had been convicted of murder of women and had gone to alaska to a prison to interview this man and the detective then had brought up Mandy to him. His words to me before the man died of natural causes was, "he is as cold as a lizard on a stone". He thought he had found the murderer and I did also. To think this Tim had taken such a precious life is to me unfathomable. That her mother found justice to me seems little. Not enough. Good job on the story.
His 'defense' is embarrassing -the tosser should be locked up for that alone ! Terrible human being.
I’m happy there is still hope for families seeking justice for their loved ones, like Mandy
The guy asked his entire family to lie for him then wanted his mother to help put the blame on his deceased father. What a creep. How is 27 years the max sentence for murder?
Agreed! A 21 y.o. murderer would be out of prison at just 48. That's not right.
@Crazy Sven if it was Australia he would just get a pat on the back and a sucker.
It's a liberal state. Those states always have the lightest sentences for violent criminals.
@@michaeld6147 Whatcom County Washington is one of the most Conservative areas in the entire USA. The county has a Draft Horse and Mule Assn. for Christ sake. It may NOW be a Liberal area in the software corridor of Seattle, but back then Puyallup was cattle country. Inotherwords, all these posters thinking the "answer" is that the state is "Libtard" don't have a f..king clue what they're talking about. Oh, and lots of people from Virginia, Iowa, and the Mormon corridor. God fearin and gun totten. Lots a backwoods boys that married their SISTER. inotherwords, Republican to the CORE.
Why did he not get death sentence 😡💀?????
I guess this is the anniversary of Mandy's death. Bless her heart. Rest in Peace Mandy, you're not forgotten.
What I don’t understand is why didn’t they get the dna of one of his family members to show a familia dna and then get a court ordered dna sample from him ?
What year
Alyson onOahu what year what ?
I think she means, check the year, in that time DNA background through family members wasn't possible.
good question
@@donatellohamato748 thats not true, actually in 2013 when the people were trying to get his DNA they were just starting to trace DNS to the golden state killer. (I think that's what his name was idc I pay more attention to victims because they're more important)
Oh my god that poor family. That really broke my heart.. they had to go through that terrible situation not once but TWICE.
Such a shame, what a talented young woman. I tell my husband that while our German Shepherd is protective, he can't protect me from everything. This family has had so much heartbreak.
So many women get attacked while running, in broad daylight, even with their dogs. It is not safe to run alone. Why didnt he get the death penalty or life without parole?
He got the maximum allowed in 1989. Sentencing was based on laws in place at the time he committed the crime, not when he was finally caught.
Because all those northwestern states down to mexico are so liberal , i,m surprised they even tried to catch someone.the death penalty is a no no. If it would have been in texas he would be down already.......liberals think they can rehabilitate a killer and turn him back out... look at what they have been doing with illegals and the sanctuary cities ,protecting the trash...it,s ashamed,, the federal government needs to cut those states completely out of all fed. Aid money.
Someone who has commited such a heinous crime doesnt deserve a second chance , this is not justice for the victim. Also the risk of letting him loose on society is too great, most of the time they take more lives.
It seems they attract secret stalkers and sickos.
It's why we carry and pay attention always.
Poor family & poor sweet doggie. I'm sad for the Mom especially.
After all those years he thought he would never be caught. The lady that got the DNA sample is a hero. She wouldn't give up. God bless her.
All I can think is the horror this young woman went through at the hands of this “man” and what he put her family through in the years to comes. I’m glad he is behind bars finally!
Always look forward to your posts. Glad they caught this guy. Can't imagine what her parents went through having two murdered children.
This gives me Hope that 1 day my son's murder will be Solved..😢😢
@Islamic History He was murdered.😢😢
@Islamic History I Believe that it was because police where involved in some way. The story has gone on over the years. You know Political..
May your son's murderer be caught
dam ! another unsolved ?, what happened, maybe people seeing your story could help get media attention ? sorry for your loss, cant imagine what i would do if my son was murdered. xx
Wow. I hope so.
I can't believe it took 30 years to solve! The fact that the killer had left home soon after the murder should have raised a red flag.
I will never understand how someone feels they have the right to take another’s life..
Holy crap, her brother was shot 17 times?!?? You’d have to reload any gun at least once to do that. That’s major overkill.
It could have been a few people shooting.
That breaks my heart
Glock.
What a fine and beautiful young girl and her brother tooThey both been murdered by very sick persons
Smokey Bear He's learning! Wave your 30 round AR mag at him!!!
I'm so greatful that the brother and wife had enough of a moral compass to tell the truth.
Isn't is a little sad that those to are revered for what 'should be' BASIC common decency? I 100% agree with you, but it is extremely unfortunate that our expectations are for people to lie through their teeth even for idiots just b/c they happen to be related or married.
She was a pretty girl,He took her life ,and had the nerve to marry some one eles like she didn't want the same.he is evil and selfish. His family should have gone to the police from day one.
And that bastard didn't even care for his family. He was ready to send his brother to prison for his own fucking crime.
This is so heartbreaking. She was an amazing, beautiful teen...just two yrs younger than me, yet had accomplished so much before she even finished high school. I have to applaud the Bass family for doing what was right.
Btw, I love to hear you narrate. You have a great voice. So sympathetic and clear.
This is pretty scary, this man roamed basically in our neighborhood where my children grew up in whatcom county. May this poor mother find peace in her heart. Two children?
Thank you for bringing these cases to light. Good to hear that justice was finally served in this case.
I wonder how people live with themselves knowing they murdered someone.
PSYCHOPATHS NEVER THINK THEY'RE GUILTY.. ALWAYS PASSING THE BUCK OF BLAME ONTO OTHERS..
@@marrop2760 You're so right. And this guy was use to his family enabling him for years and thought they'd help him here, too.
It's not a mystery, it's called lack of empathy and sociopathy. They don't care.
@Jason Bordeau Oh shut up pussy. That's completely different.
It is called being a sociopath....no compassion for others whatsoever....check out our current president for an example!
I was just thinking about Heavy Casefiles and wishing another one would be out!
Lulu Ladybug - You should do that more often! You know, just in case it “works” again :)
@@janemiettinen5176 no problem. LoL
Check it out? "Unbelievable."
Can’t take stalking lightly
True. Stalking and peeping are often the first steps before someone begins to assault and/or kill
@Vincent Cuttolo Did you miss the reference to him going to watch Mandy at basketball games?
@Vincent Cuttolo Maybe not to you, and some would dismiss this unwanted attention as innocent, but it clearly had a more sinister element. You clearly see his very creepy behaviour as ok and I fail to see your arguement.
@Vincent Cuttolo I call BS on you being stalked and the only person who doesn't get it is you. In other circumstances it maybe it is innocent, but the evidence in this case is clear. His behaviour is compulsive and his intention to harm is clear (remember the bit about him murdering her). The person doesn't need to know that they are being stalked to be classified as stalking.
@Vincent Cuttolo You are mistaking a legal definition with the true definition. In this case the person did stalk the victim. The victim is dead due to his stalking. Or are you saying that he just came across the victim and it was an impulsive act. It clearly wasn't impulsive as he had been following the victim around.
As for your rant, it just proves to me that you were not a victim of anything and you clearly have no idea.
It's incredible the level of tragedy that some families endure. Two murders and potentially both could have remained unsolved 😲.
Is there any chance that you could cover her brother's case? So glad that Mandy's was solved. Thank you for this. xx
Nicola H-H I would like to about that too. That poor family. They deserve closure.
@Pamela Morris Timothy would have been a young child in the 70s. He was the same age as Mandy.
@@mikes5637 children kill too..............and being a monster didn't just happen when he hit puberty
@@nikadavise-br9lx he didn't know mandy at the time her brother died, they were in another state.
@Pamela Morris When the first son was killed, Timothy would have been near toddler age, also they lived in Alaska not Washington.
Her mother lives to see justice service..
Such a beautiful young woman.
Sometimes it seems that beauty can work against you. I hope the killer burns in hell!
Actually beauty doesn't even matter for people who have sexual issues, so many different women were raped and still are being raped, just because a man can't control his libido. Looks don't even matter for them, as long as they can put their thing into a hole.
Sorry for my vulgar words, but I'm so angry about this topic, rapists and molesters disgust me!!!
kim sounds like a good boss and good person. respecting the privacy of her employees and feeling unequipped to handle a problem, being honest about it and directing authorities to higher ups, later realizing on her own what may have been going on and wanting to help, and then taking things into her own hands once she realized their struggle. just an all-round respectable worker and person
There's no "life without parole" in Washington? It's conceivable that he could die a free man. That's not right.
Wow, what a story. You are a haunting story teller. Well timed video. And, a truly sad tale for the world and Mandy’s family to loose such an amazingly gifted girl. Thank you for bringing her story to life.
I hope he sweated like hell leading to his DNA being found he brutally took a young girls life and walked free for years and tried to smear her reputation he is subhuman
Could listen to her all day 😃
So killed an innocent girl & tried to blame his daddy & the victim. What a scuz!
I just love seeing "solved". Get chills everytime it's never too late. Blessings!!! ☺🙏✨
Mandy kinda looked like young Jessica Lange. Beautiful girl.
I just found you channel and I love your videos! You are so professional and collected but at the same time I can clearly hear the sadness and ucompassion in your voice as you talk about the victims. This is one of the best true crime channels I have ever seen, keep up the great work you wonderful human❤️
He was trying to frame his own family, including his dead father. I hope he spends what is left of his life behind bars where he belongs. RIP Mandy!
They. Usually. Get. 5. Years.
Has Jay Inslee let him out so he won't get Corona Virus???
Your voice holds so much emotion. Not just reading a script and I appreciate this. Thank you, I'm sending my Thought Cookies and wishing you a wonderful Thanksgiving time! : )
GOD bless all the good people that never gave up. RIP.
It is always heartwarming when we realize that although cases like this appear to be publicly "Cold" cases, the police very often continue in the shadows looking for the one responsible. Thankfully, sometimes they do catch, try and do convict the individual who committed the horrific crime..
Very well-done summary of this case. Thank you for posting this.
Notifications rock... so excited to see another excellent report from you. 💕 Edited to add that it is so powerful what can be accomplished when the community sticks together and works for justice.
It’s not nice to hear about this story but it’s good to hear that the case is solved. This story being on UA-cam is sort of a way of remember her as well. So glad her mother had the closure she needed. And my heart went out to her dog never seeing her again 😥😥
Rest in peace Mandy.. 😭
what an evil human being.
Rewattee Froimchuk she was far from evil! Why speak this way about the dead? 😡😢
@@sugaredwards6207 if you do not know who the evil piece if crap was in this HeavyCasefiles and i have to clarify that ( it was in a completely separate line also). Then i am sorry for you. 😔
@@sugaredwards6207 She was talking about the perpetrator.
I read this comment as her saying the killer was evil. I would write it like that. Perhaps its lost in translation.
I'm sure this comment is saying the killer is evil.
Rewattee Froimchuk I’m sorry I admit I was trolling you. It was an irresistible urge. I apologize.
The poor mother used to ride her bike along side each time her daughter came home and ran, except the one time when she had guests. And the creep took notice.
Hope she didn't beat herself up these past 30 years.
Cannot hold my tear...when you begin all your videos with Stories of how beautiful they were how they were full of life....how they were on their peak of their achievements...and took away
Evil, may her family finally have some sort of peace
RIP mandy such a beautiful angel
I am in love with Many and Krya. They are now angels in heaven.
30 years is a long time to solve a case but I'm glad it was finally solved.
27 years is too light a sentence for this horrible crime. He could be out to do it again in 15 years. Psychopaths usually cannot be rehabilitated.
Lazy. Cops. Could have. Earlier. Solved it
Thank you for covering this case, I live in Washington state, but this all happened before my time... So sad. 💀🖤 Another well researched video done beautifully. I hope Mandy's family has found some semblance of peace, sad about her older brother as well...
This reminds me of "The lovely bones" movie. The predator was just their neighbor
What a great and underrated movie!
I love this movie. It was so sad that the neighbor murdered her just because
Lovely Bones was way worse and that was just a movie!
@@RaquelmariaDejesusGuerrero I think this is worse because its real, but also because the method of death is worse. Lovely bones had the girl die quickly after being raped (in the book) (in the move there was not sexual assault) where as this poor girl suffered and even tried to run, she was terrified and knew the whole time that she was probably going to die.
yes..saw this movie..very sad.
i am not sure her body was found or people know that the neighbour was the killer.
need to watch this again.
I could tell in a few areas how much this impacted you in your voice.... you have an amazing channel and I thank Merc for the collaboration you did together or I would have never found this channel. Excellent excellent work!!!!!
Wow. This is so similar to a case Maine that I had to keep hearing you say that Mandy was from the west coast to believe it. Joyce McLain looked similar to Mandy, was in a similar band outfit in pictures, went jogging, was found in just her sneakers and socks, and was very close in age. Her case, as well as Mandy's, was cold for 30+ years and was finally solved. The murderer had a crush on her and lived close by... Quite eerie. So glad both moms can know who took their girls away. Great video.
My goodness this guy is pure evil! How many lives did he jeopardize to cover up his own crime!!
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So glad he's being punished. Such an impressive young woman, it's just so sad her life was so short. People like her are a loss to the world.
With his lame prison sentence, he could be out in 15 years with good behavior. He should have received Life Without Parole.
Bird house absolutely!
It's absolutely amazing how everything works out - that finally a case like this can be solved. May Mandy RIP 👼
This channel (cold-cases solved) is particularly satisfying. It’s SO cathartic to see a rapist/murderer get HIS life upended after thinking he was in the clear for years.
Despite them getting that xtra freedom, there’s a more poetic finish when the knock comes darkly and ominously to the door of their “new life.”
What a bright light that young girl was! Her future was just so bright, you can tell... may she rest in peace.
This is awesome. I haven't closely followed it, but I have heard of it through the years.
Also, how sad that her brother was also murdered.