Your comment about knowing the decimal equivalents made me chuckle. I was a CNC machinist for 45 years and even now I do everything in decimal format. It is second nature and a lot easier than fractions. Looking to get a OneFinity machine soon to satisfy my lust of making things with a CNC machine again. Great videos by the way!
😆, I know the feeling, both about decimal and needing a CNC. There is just nothing like coding, drawing or whatever and you can hold it in you hands. Thanks for taking the time to watch the videos, let me know if you have anything you want to see.
My very first drafting job (back in 1977?) was converting metric drawings to decimal inches - and the factor you either multiply or divide by, is 0.03937. Because 1" = 25.4mm
@@LarsWorkShop No - I have a PhlatBoyz PhlatPrinter III CNC that I cut a LOT of 1" x 2' x 8' foam sheets with, and built a full size electric car prototype - a foam plug with a windshield from a Smart Car, etc. I call it CarBEN, and I have a few videos of it on my YT channel. It has been sitting in my garage for 11+ years. I did a lot of G-code using DataCAD, SketchUp and a plugin from PhlatBoyz.
What I’ve been doing with my touch plate is I have the magnet on a bolt head at the base of the Y axis. It works since spindles are grounded to the machine, and I never forget the magnet, since I just leave it there all the time.
Thanks for the idea. I just looked at you latest video and I will need to try that out. Totally sharing this in my next video and of course giving you credit!
Love the video! Very informative for me. As an aside - I love this "if you are using metric....I don't know what to tell you. 5mm, 6mm, 10mm whatever!". This reminds me of a line from The Godfather.
LOL - Thanks for the comment - I am glad the video helped you at. If you have any questions, drop a line here and lets see if we can work through it. :)
Awesome video Lars, I’m waiting for my Elite Wood worker and I wanted to familiarize myself with the masso. Your channel is my go to place to go for the Onefinity! I had 3 different Chinese cnc and where all returned. I am very nervous around cnc’s that probably a good thing. Thanks again. Cheers Mark
Mark, thanks for the comment, i am glad the videos are helping out. Just take it one step at a time. If you have questions reach out and I will see if I can help.
This is exactly what I need to learn about, at this point - thank you! Next big step for me, is hopefully using a DXF file (I have CAD drawings) of the pieces I want to cut, and importing it into Carvco, to then define the tool paths. I am trying to avoid having to redo everything. And I need to cut a clamping jig plate to easily repeat cutting panels. I am making flat packs for speakers, and I have the Baltic birch precut, so I only lose the 1/8" kerf; and use as much of the expensive sheet as possible. And also I don't have to handle full sheets - and I can cut them on my Journeyman Elite; rather than a much larger machine.
Neil, thank you for the comment and welcome to the channel. I have another video on making laterns that show how to convert files to dxf using convertio.co (not .com) and importing dxf into Carveco. ua-cam.com/video/-IL2XPsQKEE/v-deo.html A clamping jig is extremely smart way of doing repeat cuts of panels. Good luck and have fun!
@@LarsWorkShop Thank you for the response - I can export DXF from DataCAD (which is the CAD program I use for my day job). Where is the import menu on Carveco? I saw something to do with vector files - is that it? I am now watching some of your other videos - and they are *very* informative and helpful. There is a lot of esoteric stuff with Masso that I am just beginning to learn about, and having practical hands on demonstration of these is invaluable to me, and I'm sure many others, too.
Under Vetor Import - just ignore the size, it will maek itself fit in the model you define. I am so glad that the videos are helping you out. Thanks for subscribing to the channel!
Would like more videos like this, been studying cnc principles for a good while now but brand new to doing it and will be getting my elite soon. Another topic arena you might want to do is videos for specific error codes...
I hope you take the time to learn about the machine, it will really help you out in the long run. Also, that is an excellent idea, I will look into what I can come up with.
What do you think would be the best way to run a drag knife on the Masso without having the spindle take time to spin up ( it doesn't spin, I've got it set at one, it won't let you set it at 0) Also is there a way to have it go to work z zero, work origin goes to y and x but not work z.
Welcome to the channel. I have never used a knife on thr masso. But drop that in the group, a hunch of folks have. Thr code should bring it to work z zero. Need to see your code
@@LarsWorkShop I just ordered an elite Foreman, but I've been CNC machining and manual machining for a while. Started with a mini lathe in 2006 and a Taig later the same year. Made it a business in 2010 and went full time in 2016. Most of my machines have a twist release estop. I had to walk out in the shop and look. Everything under power that has an e-stop has a twist release. Even the pendants that have an e-stop switch. I think I have seen e-stops that are straight pull, but at the moment I can't picture one in my head. I've wanted something for "sheet" goods for a while and the Onefinity seemed to be the best bang for the buck. Not the cheapest and built around a control I might consider for other machines. In fact I am thinking about the Masso G3 Touch for an old Bridgeport I am retrofitting. If I like it I may swap my Hurco over to it as well. I've been watching a lot of owner videos, and the one thing I am not seeing is much machining. There is some of course, but it seems like everybody has intro, setup, and the basics videos. The Onefinity is more a "toy" for me. It doesn't fit into my current business model and product lines, but you never know what will happen in the future. I figured my big lathe was just for repair work, but I wound up using it more often for actual customer products. Another middle weight mill I bought was intended for only roughing blanks, but instead it runs direct customer jobs several times a week as well. Anyway, I enjoyed your video. Lots of useful basics. Very useful for a beginner, and not without merit for a more experienced "maker" like myself either. Thanks for putting it out.
Bob, Thanks for the comment!! A Bridgeport, wow, I have not used one of those in a while. I would love to have a CNC bridgeport, I have a lot of people ask as soon as I say CNC, "Can you do metal?" Another tool I would love to have is a CNC plasma cutter. :)
I have a basic problem - my Journeyman Elite jogs in the Y- and stops at about 20" back - but it says it is at 32.1259" And I can't get the PwnCNC spindle to spin up with the Masso. But it works manually.
Did you home your machine when you booted up? Once you do the xy should say 0.000 and 0.000 z should be something around 5.000. Spindle spin up, that is odd. Are all of the cables connected in the correct holes. If so, send an email to support@pwncnc.com and someone will help you out in a jiffy.
@@LarsWorkShop Yes, it homes correctly. And I had set up the parking in the back right, and it worked earlier on. But now somehow the "scale" of the Y/B axis is compressed by about 35%? I will email PwnCNC - thanks.
That is really, really odd. And you are manually moving the spindle with the controller? Not running gcode. Check this docs.masso.com.au/masso-settings/axis-settings I can check my settings in the morning for you.
OK - so I got some pics a just looking at some things, this is what i have on mine. After I homed my machine today the x was at -16.000 inches, this could be your issue, so I pressed the X on the screen to zero that out, rehomed all good. I sent you, I hope, some picture through messenger on Facebook. Hopefully there is only one of you, LOL. let me know if they help. BTW your cars and PEBL are really kewl!
Total noob really needs help! Hi Lars, my machine is all setup and ready to go. I've watched a lot of your videos and feel pretty comfortable. However, IO can't figure out how to cut a file I have created in Carveco Maker. I save the file and it saves it as a .art file. I transfer the file to my thumb drive and plug it into the Masso. I try to load the file and I get a message saying "No Gcode files on drive". I'm completely lost as to how I get a cuttable Gcode file from Carveco to my thumb drive to cut it.
Check out this video it is how to make a lantern and has all the steps. First 15 minutes has all of the info you should need. ua-cam.com/video/-IL2XPsQKEE/v-deo.html
@@LarsWorkShop Thanks. Shortly after I posted this question, I figured it out. All you have to do is save the project (.art file) and then go to Save Toolpath. Give the toolpath a name and save it as a Gcode file (.Tap) I tried that the first time, but assumed it would default to Gcode but it didn't. Once I selected Gcode from a lengthy list, it defaulted to Gcode the next time I saved a tool path. I'm learning. LOL
Nope the grease was really cold. I noticed this when I was reviewing the footage and did a video on the noise - this was after the first really cold night here in Ohio. ua-cam.com/video/KQKGis4cYhA/v-deo.html
It is online here www.onefinitycnc.com/support, I did not find it useful. the picture are from an older machine. Thank you for letting me know that the videos are helping you out. Feel free to reach out if you have other questions, maybe I can help, if not I may be able to point you in the correct direction for help. Take Care!
Do you know that one can use the touch plate as a bit setter too? ua-cam.com/video/9xH6NT6mFX8/v-deo.htmlsi=dBAjkOPrSDv9xgfE I am buying a Onefinity machine. And I looked at a lot of videos beforehand. This was one. By the way, Thanks for your videos. Very helpful. I still think that you should share the teflon spray lubricant. Research if you like, but anybody watching your videos for Onefinity info should realize they shouldn’t have to go through that extensive procedure to keep their machine(s) in good working order. I’ve seen silicon sprays recommended too. I don’t like to use silicon because it can interfere with applying finish if the silicon gets on the wood. Oil can too.
I use my probe as a tool setter. Nice video really neat stuff. I am happy that you are enjoying the videos, it means a lot to me. I would love to share the Teflon as lubricant, but it is something that 1F has written about many times to only use 3N1 oil. Otherwise I would.
@@LarsWorkShop I read the lube recommendation from 1F. The objection seems to arise from dry lubes don’t provide protection for the bearings (I.e. rolling objects). The product I use specifically says it works for bearings so I sent them a message to see what they say…
@@LarsWorkShop The responded really quick! Hi Mark Thanks for your email. We have not tested this product and therefore cannot state how effective it is or what issues it may cause (if any). If you have used it on other machines without detriment, then most likely it will work on your Onefinity but we cannot recommend it. There are other dry teflon lube products that have caused bearings to seize and it can take a lot of effort to break them loose. Besides the 3 in 1 oil, Boeshield's T9 waterproof lube is also effective.
@@LarsWorkShop I’ll probably continue to use it. I’ve never had a problem with using it. It’s easy and the product sheet specifically says it is good for bearings. I guess I’ll find out. Oil, even lite oil, has caused more problems for me in the past…
HTG stands for Hind Technology Group. The company was founded in 2012 by Jatinder Grewal, the man behind the MASSO controller.
Wow - Gaius you ar a wealth of knowledge!!! Thank you.
Origins are the vital key to understanding anything.
Indeed!
Your comment about knowing the decimal equivalents made me chuckle. I was a CNC machinist for 45 years and even now I do everything in decimal format. It is second nature and a lot easier than fractions. Looking to get a OneFinity machine soon to satisfy my lust of making things with a CNC machine again. Great videos by the way!
😆, I know the feeling, both about decimal and needing a CNC. There is just nothing like coding, drawing or whatever and you can hold it in you hands. Thanks for taking the time to watch the videos, let me know if you have anything you want to see.
My very first drafting job (back in 1977?) was converting metric drawings to decimal inches - and the factor you either multiply or divide by, is 0.03937. Because 1" = 25.4mm
Neil, is this your first endevour into the CAM side?
@@LarsWorkShop No - I have a PhlatBoyz PhlatPrinter III CNC that I cut a LOT of 1" x 2' x 8' foam sheets with, and built a full size electric car prototype - a foam plug with a windshield from a Smart Car, etc. I call it CarBEN, and I have a few videos of it on my YT channel.
It has been sitting in my garage for 11+ years.
I did a lot of G-code using DataCAD, SketchUp and a plugin from PhlatBoyz.
Nice I will check that out
What I’ve been doing with my touch plate is I have the magnet on a bolt head at the base of the Y axis. It works since spindles are grounded to the machine, and I never forget the magnet, since I just leave it there all the time.
Thanks for the idea. I just looked at you latest video and I will need to try that out. Totally sharing this in my next video and of course giving you credit!
Great vid. Have 2021 foreman w/ early controller, looking at upgrading.
Wow, I hear 1f has an upgrade program.
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice work.
Thanks and welcome to the Shop
Thank you, Lars. This video will be going to the shop with me after my set-up is complete. Well done.
Thank you so much for the comment. I hope the other videos help as well
This is great info. Thank you for making this video. I’m Sub’d and looking forward to learning as much as possible.
Welcome aboard! Glad you like the video
Love the video! Very informative for me. As an aside - I love this "if you are using metric....I don't know what to tell you. 5mm, 6mm, 10mm whatever!". This reminds me of a line from The Godfather.
LOL - Thanks for the comment - I am glad the video helped you at. If you have any questions, drop a line here and lets see if we can work through it. :)
Awesome video. I'm getting ady to make my first CNC cut ever, and this helped me a lot! Thanks!
Great to hear!
Awesome video Lars, I’m waiting for my Elite Wood worker and I wanted to familiarize myself with the masso. Your channel is my go to place to go for the Onefinity! I had 3 different Chinese cnc and where all returned. I am very nervous around cnc’s that probably a good thing. Thanks again.
Cheers Mark
Mark, thanks for the comment, i am glad the videos are helping out. Just take it one step at a time. If you have questions reach out and I will see if I can help.
Thank you Lars I appreciate that!
Cheers
Great job. Looking forward to seeing your next video.
Thanks, I am glad the video helped you.
This is exactly what I need to learn about, at this point - thank you!
Next big step for me, is hopefully using a DXF file (I have CAD drawings) of the pieces I want to cut, and importing it into Carvco, to then define the tool paths. I am trying to avoid having to redo everything.
And I need to cut a clamping jig plate to easily repeat cutting panels. I am making flat packs for speakers, and I have the Baltic birch precut, so I only lose the 1/8" kerf; and use as much of the expensive sheet as possible. And also I don't have to handle full sheets - and I can cut them on my Journeyman Elite; rather than a much larger machine.
Neil, thank you for the comment and welcome to the channel. I have another video on making laterns that show how to convert files to dxf using convertio.co (not .com) and importing dxf into Carveco.
ua-cam.com/video/-IL2XPsQKEE/v-deo.html
A clamping jig is extremely smart way of doing repeat cuts of panels. Good luck and have fun!
@@LarsWorkShop Thank you for the response - I can export DXF from DataCAD (which is the CAD program I use for my day job). Where is the import menu on Carveco? I saw something to do with vector files - is that it?
I am now watching some of your other videos - and they are *very* informative and helpful. There is a lot of esoteric stuff with Masso that I am just beginning to learn about, and having practical hands on demonstration of these is invaluable to me, and I'm sure many others, too.
Under Vetor Import - just ignore the size, it will maek itself fit in the model you define.
I am so glad that the videos are helping you out. Thanks for subscribing to the channel!
@@LarsWorkShop that's great - thank you! I will be practicing this very soon.
Good Luck just takes a little playing around on scraps and you will be great, I am sure.
Would like more videos like this, been studying cnc principles for a good while now but brand new to doing it and will be getting my elite soon.
Another topic arena you might want to do is videos for specific error codes...
I hope you take the time to learn about the machine, it will really help you out in the long run.
Also, that is an excellent idea, I will look into what I can come up with.
What do you think would be the best way to run a drag knife on the Masso without having the spindle take time to spin up ( it doesn't spin, I've got it set at one, it won't let you set it at 0) Also is there a way to have it go to work z zero, work origin goes to y and x but not work z.
Welcome to the channel. I have never used a knife on thr masso. But drop that in the group, a hunch of folks have. Thr code should bring it to work z zero. Need to see your code
you explain very well, i subscribed, oh a little bit of oil on your chair wheels ha ha
Thank You and I will get on the Squeaky wheels,😅
I'm sure somebody's mentioned it already, but the arrows on the front of the E-stop button indicate you're supposed to turn it to release it.
Nope you are the first
@@LarsWorkShop I just ordered an elite Foreman, but I've been CNC machining and manual machining for a while. Started with a mini lathe in 2006 and a Taig later the same year. Made it a business in 2010 and went full time in 2016. Most of my machines have a twist release estop. I had to walk out in the shop and look. Everything under power that has an e-stop has a twist release. Even the pendants that have an e-stop switch. I think I have seen e-stops that are straight pull, but at the moment I can't picture one in my head.
I've wanted something for "sheet" goods for a while and the Onefinity seemed to be the best bang for the buck. Not the cheapest and built around a control I might consider for other machines. In fact I am thinking about the Masso G3 Touch for an old Bridgeport I am retrofitting. If I like it I may swap my Hurco over to it as well. I've been watching a lot of owner videos, and the one thing I am not seeing is much machining. There is some of course, but it seems like everybody has intro, setup, and the basics videos. The Onefinity is more a "toy" for me. It doesn't fit into my current business model and product lines, but you never know what will happen in the future. I figured my big lathe was just for repair work, but I wound up using it more often for actual customer products. Another middle weight mill I bought was intended for only roughing blanks, but instead it runs direct customer jobs several times a week as well. Anyway, I enjoyed your video. Lots of useful basics. Very useful for a beginner, and not without merit for a more experienced "maker" like myself either. Thanks for putting it out.
Oh, just saw I was replying under one of my other accounts. Its still Bob here.
Bob, Thanks for the comment!! A Bridgeport, wow, I have not used one of those in a while. I would love to have a CNC bridgeport, I have a lot of people ask as soon as I say CNC, "Can you do metal?" Another tool I would love to have is a CNC plasma cutter. :)
No worries - I have do it before too Bob
I have a basic problem - my Journeyman Elite jogs in the Y- and stops at about 20" back - but it says it is at 32.1259"
And I can't get the PwnCNC spindle to spin up with the Masso. But it works manually.
Did you home your machine when you booted up? Once you do the xy should say 0.000 and 0.000 z should be something around 5.000. Spindle spin up, that is odd. Are all of the cables connected in the correct holes. If so, send an email to support@pwncnc.com and someone will help you out in a jiffy.
@@LarsWorkShop Yes, it homes correctly. And I had set up the parking in the back right, and it worked earlier on. But now somehow the "scale" of the Y/B axis is compressed by about 35%?
I will email PwnCNC - thanks.
That is really, really odd. And you are manually moving the spindle with the controller? Not running gcode. Check this docs.masso.com.au/masso-settings/axis-settings I can check my settings in the morning for you.
@@LarsWorkShop Correct - it worked correctly earlier on, and now its not. I've got the same distance per revolution numbers on the X and Y axis.
OK - so I got some pics a just looking at some things, this is what i have on mine. After I homed my machine today the x was at -16.000 inches, this could be your issue, so I pressed the X on the screen to zero that out, rehomed all good. I sent you, I hope, some picture through messenger on Facebook. Hopefully there is only one of you, LOL. let me know if they help. BTW your cars and PEBL are really kewl!
Total noob really needs help!
Hi Lars, my machine is all setup and ready to go. I've watched a lot of your videos and feel pretty comfortable. However, IO can't figure out how to cut a file I have created in Carveco Maker. I save the file and it saves it as a .art file. I transfer the file to my thumb drive and plug it into the Masso. I try to load the file and I get a message saying "No Gcode files on drive". I'm completely lost as to how I get a cuttable Gcode file from Carveco to my thumb drive to cut it.
Check out this video it is how to make a lantern and has all the steps.
First 15 minutes has all of the info you should need.
ua-cam.com/video/-IL2XPsQKEE/v-deo.html
@@LarsWorkShop
Thanks. Shortly after I posted this question, I figured it out. All you have to do is save the project (.art file) and then go to Save Toolpath. Give the toolpath a name and save it as a Gcode file (.Tap) I tried that the first time, but assumed it would default to Gcode but it didn't. Once I selected Gcode from a lengthy list, it defaulted to Gcode the next time I saved a tool path. I'm learning. LOL
Awesome.
spindle bearings dry?
Nope the grease was really cold. I noticed this when I was reviewing the footage and did a video on the noise - this was after the first really cold night here in Ohio.
ua-cam.com/video/KQKGis4cYhA/v-deo.html
@@LarsWorkShop Speaking of grease, how do you lube/relube the machine?
What is this mysterious "manual" you speak of?? I got zero instructions and only managed to put it together yesterday because of your vids.
It is online here www.onefinitycnc.com/support, I did not find it useful. the picture are from an older machine. Thank you for letting me know that the videos are helping you out. Feel free to reach out if you have other questions, maybe I can help, if not I may be able to point you in the correct direction for help. Take Care!
Do you know that one can use the touch plate as a bit setter too? ua-cam.com/video/9xH6NT6mFX8/v-deo.htmlsi=dBAjkOPrSDv9xgfE
I am buying a Onefinity machine. And I looked at a lot of videos beforehand. This was one.
By the way, Thanks for your videos. Very helpful.
I still think that you should share the teflon spray lubricant. Research if you like, but anybody watching your videos for Onefinity info should realize they shouldn’t have to go through that extensive procedure to keep their machine(s) in good working order.
I’ve seen silicon sprays recommended too. I don’t like to use silicon because it can interfere with applying finish if the silicon gets on the wood. Oil can too.
I use my probe as a tool setter. Nice video really neat stuff. I am happy that you are enjoying the videos, it means a lot to me. I would love to share the Teflon as lubricant, but it is something that 1F has written about many times to only use 3N1 oil. Otherwise I would.
@@LarsWorkShop I read the lube recommendation from 1F. The objection seems to arise from dry lubes don’t provide protection for the bearings (I.e. rolling objects). The product I use specifically says it works for bearings so I sent them a message to see what they say…
@@LarsWorkShop The responded really quick!
Hi Mark
Thanks for your email. We have not tested this product and therefore cannot state how effective it is or what issues it may cause (if any). If you have used it on other machines without detriment, then most likely it will work on your Onefinity but we cannot recommend it.
There are other dry teflon lube products that have caused bearings to seize and it can take a lot of effort to break them loose.
Besides the 3 in 1 oil, Boeshield's T9 waterproof lube is also effective.
Nice - So what have you decided to use?
@@LarsWorkShop I’ll probably continue to use it. I’ve never had a problem with using it. It’s easy and the product sheet specifically says it is good for bearings. I guess I’ll find out. Oil, even lite oil, has caused more problems for me in the past…