Thanks for the video! Just an FYI, if you have a contact at Onefinity, tell them their shopping cart charges $10k if you have 2 Elite Foremans in the shopping cart. That's a bit more than the $250 for one unit, lol. But then again, maybe that's a feature, not a bug?
This is my first time seeing one of your videos. It's just outstanding. You get right to the point, fully explain, and avoid wasted words. I've subscribed.
I purchased a Elite Foreman a couple of weeks ago and I'm really looking forward to having it in my shop (garage). Thanks for the great videos - keep them coming!
I purchased my Elite last night… Excited to receive and start cutting. Although I do not use a cnc as often as I would like, I am going to start incorporating into more projects. With the new capabilities, this machine is insane. I absolutely am amazed with how OF has progressed. Awesome
@@TwoMooseDesign I already have the Journeyman. Is a tough decision to sell or keep. Was thinking of putting on wall and sliding Baltic birch sheets through for cutout pieces. These are such versatile machines. What other cnc can run while stationed on a wall.
@@britneyjohnson9624 oh cool! Yeah I’m not sure if I’m going to get rid of mine yet or not, I’ll give it a few months and see how much it gets used lol
Jeff, I can't thank you enough for this video as well as all the other videos. I am ordering my Onefinity today with same spindle and you videos have finally put an end to my seemingly endless frustrating research into what to buy. The table info is much appreciated and it looks like the Kreg might be more amenable to designing an enclosure as well. My shop is in a large walkout basement so I would like to max my noise control to reduce noise complaints from the wife. But, Dude, get rid of that dust collector (or more appropriate...non-collector) you have on that other OneFinity. My day job is a pathologist who does a lot of head and neck work. And after seeing a few patients who were woodworkers or wood floor refinishers end up with cancer in the nasal cavity or sinuses that was most definitely due to dust, I can tell you this is not an area to look to save money. And there is the even higher potential for chronic lung damage. HEPA or as close to it as possible. Raise your prices a bit or whatever you need to do to at least buy bags for festool vac. That would pull plenty with that 2.5" hose as long as the dust boot is on. Air filtration for the space is good to. There are lots of plans/ideas for DIY units. I have plans for a good sized one that rolls and just uses a 8 inch inline fan you can buy on Amazon. Let me know if you want the plans. I was actually going to wait for my CNC to make it because it requires 6 or 7 round plywood discs of same size. Or put the CNC's closer together and put them on the Rockler with some blast gates, preferably the larger one though if you are running both at the same time. Dust collector CFM stats are not as grossly overexaggerated as HP ratings but they are certainly overblown. And that Rockler attached to that 2.5" hose might not be that much different than a good shop vac with a clean filter and bag. You two are young so stay healthy.
Rule of thumb (when cutting metal, at least), any tool projection more than 4 times the tool's diameter begins a journey into chatter land. It can certainly happen in shorter conditions and most definitely in conditions beyond that rule. It would appear that you're around the 6X mark in projection. Not saying other play in the machine isn't present, but the tool projection will certainly promote it. If I'm preaching to the choir, my apologies. Great video!
Great video. Quick note on antifreeze, find yourself some "multi-vehicle" antifreeze. Standard antifreeze doesn't work with aluminum. Multi-vehicle has inhibitors to not cross contaminate mixed metals. Use it with deionized water or at least distilled water, never tap. Antifreeze should keep the water in good shape for months, likely much longer. Antifreeze is actually a poor heat conductor if used without water. You should be fine running anywhere from 50/50 to just 25% antifreeze. Never go wrong mixing to the instructions on the bottle. Thanks for showing the machine in action.
Some alt options, use RV antifreeze instead of regular vehicle antifreeze (doesn't contain corrosives). Run distilled water through a CW-5200 chiller (in winter I use an aquarium heater in the cooler to ensure the temp doesn't drop to freezing as my garage gets very cold).
@@cyberhikerdd cw3000 without active refrigeration is better. Refrigerated models can cause condensation in and around the spindle. Bonus way cheaper to buy without chiller in it. Cw3000 just does ambient cooling.
Thanks for your video…I’ve been on the fence and now I’m completely sold. Love the fact that you basically showed us how to break down our budget and now I can order the CNC when I’m ready…but have all of the other stuff purchased within budget without such a huge hit! I would NEVER consider a cooled spindle…but now I will get it for sure and you showed how practical this can be to add on and run as well! Again GREAT Job!
You definitely don’t need the water cooled spindle, the air cooled is probably plenty. And yeah! The stuff adds up quick. All people see is ohhh the machine is $3000 weeelllll you need a lot of other stuff too lol thanks for watching I appreciate it
Same machine and same spindle I have on the way (hopefully) soon. Well my spindle is air cooled though. I am very excited for the new CNC. It will be a huge upgrade. Thanks so much for the video on it.
Thank you so much for taking time to put your videos together. I enjoy watching and learning. I know you haven't had the PWC spindle kit very long, and I have no knowledge of any kind of spindle or CNC, and am just searching my options. I like how sturdy the Onefinity looks, and how nice the spindle seems to work. Anyhow, I was hoping to hear how pleased or disappointed you are with the spindle after using it for a little while. Oh, and I do appreciate the 5% discount if I do indeed go with the PWC Kit. And the 15% discount Onefinity is offering on the Elite for a limited time, they couldn't tell me how long that is going to last. Again thanks for all your videos, you do a real professional job.
Hey! The spindle is great, they’re is cheaper brands that come in kits for half the price but the PWN spindles are plug and play. The cheaper ones require programming and soldering of the cords. An air cooled spindle is a huge upgrade from the regular router.
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate that. Another quick question, I have gone ahead and ordered the Onefinity Elite Foreman, and I will be ordering the Kreg stand. My question is would the stand be sturdy enough if I went ahead and got the locking castor wheels? Your opinion is highly appreciated. (Side note, I did order the Two Moose bit set recommended through Onefinity as well.)
@@eldonhinck1487 i personally would probably skip the wheels. I don’t know, but my journeyman has the wheels and definitely has more shake than the non wheels and the foreman is pretty hefty!
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks again, I will take your advise, and if I find I need them, I can always order them later on. Living alone, I just wonder if I needed to move it, would I be able to on my own?
Im super excited about the 4'x4' capabilities! The masso is great so far, ive only been using it for a few days and its pretty impressive! Like anything though definitely not need but sure is a nice upgrade.
Thanks for the video and review! I've been wanting a CNC for a long time but never pulled the trigger. I've been considering it more and more lately. I think I'm getting pretty close and this setup looks perfect! I have a feeling it's going to have a twin brother soon. LOL
DONT DO IT! hahaha jk but it is a addicting path lol They are so fun once you get the hang of them. Same with 3d printers. Avoid them at all cost haha i bought one and now have like 6
@@TwoMooseDesign I got the 3D printing bug years ago and went at it heavy for a long time. But I lost interest and haven't printed in years. I'm 60 and disabled. My condition is progressive so mobility is getting harder and harder. I can set up my shop centered around a CNC and it will be great for me. I brought up the purchase with my wife last night and tp my surprise, the roof is still completely intact! LOL She seems pretty receptive. I've been a licensed residential builder for 30 years but can't work the trades anymore. I've worked part-time in a theater for over eight years and it's getting old. I don't expect this to provide me a living, but I'm gonna use it for a little more than a hobby and bring in a couple extra bucks. She understands that this will be good physical and emotional therapy for me. I'll let you know when I pull the trigger. :)
Thanks for sharing. My two cents on DC, a cyclonic separator is a great add on to dust collection and running the 4 inch hose all the way to the spindle would better the dust collection.
@@TwoMooseDesign What kind of issues did you have with the dust boot? I had heard that the Z-20 slider might have some compatability issues with a lot of the dust boots out there.
Air cooled is definitely the way to go. I’ve done a couple thousand jobs so far, often running all day long and have never overheated. The air also blows the chips out of the way of the cutter in most cases. I’ve been running 2 Masso machines for a couple of years now. You’re going to love it. If you haven’t already, set up Automatic Tool Length Measurement. It makes everything so much easier when you have to change up your tools.
@@LavinWoodworks a spindle? Pwn spindles hook right upto it. It’s the same one I have but not water cooled. You can control it from the masso, I have a 5% off code in the description. You can buy cheaper versions but they are not plug and play like the pwn is.
Hi Guys, this video is responsible for piquing my interest in the Onefinity. I have been eyeballing Shopbot for years but this is so much more affordable and since I am a noob it makes a lot of sense. Watching you put the spoil boards in made me wonder why you don't run a 1/16 in deep groove at the extreme limits of the cnc (full square box) on the main board below the spoil board, vs marking the bit location with a pen? Love the channel!
The water cooled is much quieter than the air cooled and better for running large projects. It also makes dust collection easier as the air cooled is trying to blow the chips out and away from the head, and leaves much more mess behind.
I still don't have a CNC yet but I do have a kreg bench. I put a center divider in the bottom Shelf because I have access from both sides and I made slide out shelves. This made the unit very very stiff.
Thanks for such an informative video. I am more than ok with the woodworker for now but always appreciate the updates and videos of new stuff. Keep them coming!
Thanks for a quick intro. I will have mine setup as yours except mine is a journeyman elite with the kreg bench of 44x64. I hoped that fits. I also went with the Pwncnc with the 65mm air cool.
@@TwoMooseDesign where did you get the 64x64 all I see is the 44x64? Did you order 64” bars and replace the 44” ones? Thanks I’m advance I’m waiting for mine !
nice video, make all the videos you can think of for this model cnc, mine just came in last Wednesday, built a table today. now to set up and learn. thanks
Bought and downloaded the waste board file, thank you. I have a problem with getting it to load on the Masso. I am using Carveco software and have saved it to 2 different thumb drives but when I plug it in the Masso doesn't find it on the drive. What am I doing wrong?!? This is driving me crazy!!!
@@laurac4562 can you change machine in settings or something? You should be able to change file time for different machines. I don’t run carve co yet so I’m not sure
@@TwoMooseDesign I can't play very well but I love them. Was my first job out of highschool building them back in early 2010s and I've just been wanting to do it again. If I didn't have to move across the country I would have taken up some offers I got awhile back to work at some companies that have gotten pretty big lol. If you do make one they are really fun to make.
@@TwoMooseDesign I'll check it out. Really do the research on measurements and such. Im hoping to post some videos on relearning cad and learning to use the Onefinity hopefully it can help some people lol
Just starting an interest in getting my first cnc. Not having much experience in computers and none in cnc’s, I have to say this might not have been the best one for me to watch, at this point anyway. Way over my head and all the lingo and acronyms were somewhat intimidating haha. Made me wonder if I could even get into this. Not sure if a “Not For Beginners” clause in the video title might be good lol
CNCs are not just pushing a button. Expect at least a 6 month learning curve especially if you’re not good with computers, you’ll have to learn the software and the machine. It just takes practice like anything.
What size bit were you using for the test carve? I've heard that 1/2" bits can be a bit too much for the onefinity, but i'm wondering if the new heavy duty z axis helps out at all. I'm hoping to do some deeper pockets, and i'm thinking the 1/2" bits would give me the best results for that.
Hey…I am here to comment on all your videos…lol. Is Sunday and just slooowly getting my day started. Anywayzzz, I noticed in another video you moved your MASSO monitor to the right side of your machine. I am right handed, so I was curious how you went about doing. I have seen some others as well. Am sure it is easy, but just curious. My machine arrives…hopefully the end of July. I opted for the Foreman QCW frame.
I dont belive you can do it with the masso unit, Its pretty easy with the orginal onefintiy but with the masso theres a lot of wires and it would be a pain to switch sides i feel lol The qcw is definitely the easiest route and so nice it bolts right on there.
I don’t think a chiller is necessary unless you’re doing super long carves or live in a hot area and don’t have climate control. Is it the best option? No lol both my machines use the cheap pump and I haven’t had issues
Be sure to factor in taxes and shipping! Came out to an extra $300 for shipping and $400 for taxes. QCW and stand was $580 (so more expensive than Kreg it seems). Touch probe and dust boot was another $200.
@@TwoMooseDesign good point, totally forgot the bits! Gotta find a starter set somewhere. Thanks for the awesome video and looking forward to more Elite content
I am trying to buy the aircooled, but there are so many options which one do you recommend? after this amount of time has passed do you still feel the same about the spindle you have, im looking at the aircooled
Air cooled is totally fine! I have the 2.2 which is more than enough power for a hobbyists machine. Unless you plan on running the machine non stop water cooled is overkill
You have a pet so I would suggest propylene glycol as a coolant, it non toxic. That way you don’t have to worry about spills or leaks. Antifreeze will kill a pet really quick.
I'm just guessing but that looks like a 3/8 bit? Try 12000rpm at 400 imp with a .175 stepdown and 50% stepover. Your chatter seems like it's just from not getting the right chip load. I run most stuff at 600 imp up to 3/4 depth full engagement. Your machine seems solid enough to take a .017 chip load
I've had the same setup running for a couple of days and I love this machine. I'm using Carveco Maker. I've created a couple of files and cut them with success (mostly). The problem I'm having is that I created some 3/4" width vectors to cut channels for some T-track. I used a 1/4" end mill to cut them 3/8" deep. After I created them, I converted the bitmap to a vector and used Flood Fill Vector. After creating the tool path and saving it, I cut the file. The width and depth were correct, but it only cut the outer edges and left the center untouched. I thought if I used flood fill, the tool would remove all the material, but it didn't. I don't even know what to call it so I can search for an answer. How would I accomplish this? Thanks for any input.
Thanks so much for the intro to the machine. I've been considering getting a journeyman elite for a while now, and I'm just about ready to pull the plug. CNC is a completely new world for me. Question from a noob - is a spindle simply capable for higher capacity cuts, over say a makita router? and id imagine thats why it needs cooling, over a router? Thanks so much for great vid
A spindle hand handle way more abuse as its designed for it. routers are fine for starting out but they are simply not designed for running for long periods of time or being under that much load for a long period of time. I used on for the first few years then upgraded.
With your PWN spindle installed, what is the maximum depth of cut you could achieve? I am wondering what the height of the 1/2" collet to the bottom Z limit is....I am finding discrepancies in the One finity documentation materials and their website. I am contemplating buying one to see if I can work on a specialized project at home, but it would involve a pocket cut at 6-1/8" deep with a 1/2" bit... I plan to mount my material directly under the machine with a u-shaped support table, so no spoil board...
One question. I ordered basically the same unit and Kreg table. It will be here tomorrow. I had planned on it being stationary. But I've purchased five of the Kreg tables for the shop. I love the casters for them! Is your CNC on casters? If so, are there any issues doing it that way? Thanks!
I just ordered the Foreman and Kreg bench. Can you offer any suggestions on the initial tramming of the spindle? When the plywood bench top is probably not perfect, how do you tram?
Just curious does One Infinity allow you to tram out the Spindle? Another words ensuring the spindle is flat to the sacrificial board. You would notice that when you flatten a board you have no waviness of the endmill that shaved the top of the board.
Hey I'm loving the setup! I'm looking to pretty much copy this setup but putting my on spin on it. I would like your opinion on something. I ordered the QCW spoil board rails for the Elite Foreman but after watching your video, I'm leaning towards putting down my own T-tracks and boards. Do you think I should save myself $500 and build my own? Any feedback would be much appreciated. I ordered my whole setup in May so I'm not expecting it till about October. Anyways, I'm enjoying watching your videos and I'm learning a lot! Cheers! 🍻
Thanks for the information. I am in the planing process as a hobyest. trying to determine if i sppent the extra on the elite. are you happy with onefininy and do you belive the additional $$ makes the elite worth it? Thanks again
A couple questions: What size silicone hose is it and how long? And in the comments, under Kreg table, you have 64” rails, 44” rails, and the leg kit. What are the 44” rails for? And can’t you just but that table kit from Kreger website?
The dust collection hose is 4” and 20’ long I believe? And the 44” rails would be for the journeyman. That’s just how they offer them on amazon 🤷🏼♂️ it’s the same thing you can purchase them where you feel most comfortable.
I am patiently awaiting my Foreman to arrive, I also got the 2.2kw 220vwater cooled spindle. Seems to me the majority of cnc bits needed/ available are 1/4 to1/8. I did get a 1/2 in waist board flattening bit, I would assume an up cut and down cut end mills maybe a bowl bit, what other 1/2 bits would you suggest?
I’ve been buying more and more. If it comes in 1/2 like a bowl bit for example I’ll buy it in 1/2. 1/4 bits I’ll just get in 1/4 shanks. I use the 1/2 spiral bits for clearing I don’t cut things out with them, you can just a lot of waste
@@TwoMooseDesign my plan was to use the 1/2 bits for the first roughing pass then step down to 1/4 and or 1/8. I got the collets for all the aforementioned and 3/8.
I personally cant comment on the shapeoko since I haven’t used one myself but I’ve had a onefinity since it first came out and it’s treated me well, like zero issues. No belts or v wheels is great, the community is great too.
Thanks for post this. Two questions. Is there a tool changers available for this machine? And, do you know if the spindle you have be compatible with a tool changers. Thanks again!
I did but just around the clip part, it’s fine for now. I just got some hose holders from rowdy Roman on Etsy. The zip ties work but kinda shotty lol I need to install them yet
@@TwoMooseDesign I got them too. My drag chain was damaged in shipping so those clips hit now. Onefinity is sending a replacement. Just wanted to try something in the meantime. You said just around the clip? Mean where it locks on each link? Thank you for your help!
I have space so I went the other route And bought 2 commercial steel routers They cost less than this machine But they're are only for people with 3 phase and a lot of space I have both luckily
Do you consider this elite foreman to be a cnc for beginners or would you recommend a machine that’s easier to get my feet wet? I’m a fan of buying once (within reason) to avoid feeling I need to upgrade later.
@@TwoMooseDesign it’s newer but mine has a cut area of 3’x3’ and it will suddenly stop moving even though the router is still spinning. Sometimes it’ll freak out and quit and you have to start all over!
Awesome, I love your videos. I am a computer dummy. Im wanting to make form blocks for airplane building out of3/4 MDF or 3/4 birch plywood. How would I go about learning how to program the CNC to make these? I dont have a clue how to get started. Thanks for any advice you could give me !!
@@TwoMooseDesign LOL it may be an oblong shaped piece of plywood 2 feet wide by 3 feet tall with a square cut out in the middle to ben aluminum over it. this will make a bulkhead to the fuselage of an airplane. simple really. Or a piece of plywood cut out in the shape of an airplane wing rib.
Question, What is the "Stiffy" kinda afraid to ask lol , What software is included ? What's the actual usable work area after any clamps ? Did they get the Virus fixed yet ? Thanks
The stiffy is the extra rail on top, makes it a little more rigid. It definitely helps but not needed. There’s no software included but I do believe you get a free year of carveco with purchase. On this machine the cut area is 48”x48”. I haven’t heard of any virus 🤷🏼♂️ I haven’t had any software issues with either of my machines
as long as your bench isn't completely out of whack, when you surface the waste board it will take out the imperfections and "level" it to the spindle.
hi man it is posible to cut stained glass in this machine ? i whould like to see a video how you do it and how you set the machine for this thanks man all the best
From the outside of the cut area to the rails is 2” then pretty much all you need front and back. They make plastic brad nails I see a lot of people use too for big sheet goods
@@TwoMooseDesign which one did you get from PWN, I ordered the v7 for my Foreman with an 80 mm spindle, and received an email today saying the Z-20 x-axis is incompatible with the v7. Just wondering if I should just order the suck it from onefinity
Curious…it DOESNT come with a handheld controller (like the Xbox) or it CANT be used with the handheld controller (like Xbox). I have the handheld Xbox for mine and there is no way I’d have a cnc without it…super handy when setting up workpieces!
I am looking to buy the 32"x48" Elite Journeyman, and I will probably go with a 80mm air cooled spindle. My intention is to cut speaker flat packs, for my MLTL-6 (mass loaded transmission line) speakers. I have a question about the drag chain - does it come with the machine; or where did you get it? What size/length is it? I like your bench - the storage would be a big factor for me. Thank you for covering the dust collection and the Masso - this is very helpful.
The elite models come with a drag chain. I don’t believe the non elite machines do at least not when I got my first machine. I purchased a kit on Etsy from route 101 😬 I can’t think of his shop, if you type it in it will come up. I talk about it in one of my wasteboard videos I believed, it wasn’t hard to add.
@@TwoMooseDesign - thank you. This video was excellent - I am looking to find out about what programs I can use to create the G-files? Possibly SketchUp? That is what I used in the past, with my PhlatPrinter III. And if you can store files in the Masso. I will need to have jigs that let me load and clamp cut panels to do repeatable production.
You can upgrade to the Masso. Onefinity says that the upgrade should be available in late Q2 of this year (end of June). I'm anticipating a little longer than that.
@@akayii thanks for letting me know. The feature I’m really looking forward to is the rotary, so I’m probably just going to wait until that’s available and upgrade all at once.
Thanks for watching everyone! Check the description for CNC files and links to items used in the video!
Thanks for the video!
Just an FYI, if you have a contact at Onefinity, tell them their shopping cart charges $10k if you have 2 Elite Foremans in the shopping cart. That's a bit more than the $250 for one unit, lol. But then again, maybe that's a feature, not a bug?
Do you think they'll make a 4X8 unit?
This is my first time seeing one of your videos. It's just outstanding. You get right to the point, fully explain, and avoid wasted words. I've subscribed.
Thanks! I appreciate you following along
I purchased a Elite Foreman a couple of weeks ago and I'm really looking forward to having it in my shop (garage). Thanks for the great videos - keep them coming!
That’s so exciting! Now the wait begins 😫
I purchased my Elite last night… Excited to receive and start cutting. Although I do not use a cnc as often as I would like, I am going to start incorporating into more projects. With the new capabilities, this machine is insane. I absolutely am amazed with how OF has progressed. Awesome
I use mine a ton! Especially now that I can 3D model, came in super handy doing seat bottoms a while back
You’ll love it!
@@TwoMooseDesign I already have the Journeyman. Is a tough decision to sell or keep. Was thinking of putting on wall and sliding Baltic birch sheets through for cutout pieces. These are such versatile machines. What other cnc can run while stationed on a wall.
@@britneyjohnson9624 oh cool! Yeah I’m not sure if I’m going to get rid of mine yet or not, I’ll give it a few months and see how much it gets used lol
Great video. Love your straight to the important parts no nonsense dialogue.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it
Jeff, I can't thank you enough for this video as well as all the other videos. I am ordering my Onefinity today with same spindle and you videos have finally put an end to my seemingly endless frustrating research into what to buy. The table info is much appreciated and it looks like the Kreg might be more amenable to designing an enclosure as well. My shop is in a large walkout basement so I would like to max my noise control to reduce noise complaints from the wife. But, Dude, get rid of that dust collector (or more appropriate...non-collector) you have on that other OneFinity. My day job is a pathologist who does a lot of head and neck work. And after seeing a few patients who were woodworkers or wood floor refinishers end up with cancer in the nasal cavity or sinuses that was most definitely due to dust, I can tell you this is not an area to look to save money. And there is the even higher potential for chronic lung damage. HEPA or as close to it as possible. Raise your prices a bit or whatever you need to do to at least buy bags for festool vac. That would pull plenty with that 2.5" hose as long as the dust boot is on. Air filtration for the space is good to. There are lots of plans/ideas for DIY units. I have plans for a good sized one that rolls and just uses a 8 inch inline fan you can buy on Amazon. Let me know if you want the plans. I was actually going to wait for my CNC to make it because it requires 6 or 7 round plywood discs of same size. Or put the CNC's closer together and put them on the Rockler with some blast gates, preferably the larger one though if you are running both at the same time. Dust collector CFM stats are not as grossly overexaggerated as HP ratings but they are certainly overblown. And that Rockler attached to that 2.5" hose might not be that much different than a good shop vac with a clean filter and bag. You two are young so stay healthy.
Thanks for the input! Always trying to imporove dust collection! I have two air scrubbers as well.
@@TwoMooseDesign Just placed my Elite Foreman order and made sure you got the referrals. Many thanks.
@@r7j7t7 I appreciate you!
Two Moose Design. Can u post a link to the Kreg table frame u use for ur Onefinity
Rule of thumb (when cutting metal, at least), any tool projection more than 4 times the tool's diameter begins a journey into chatter land. It can certainly happen in shorter conditions and most definitely in conditions beyond that rule. It would appear that you're around the 6X mark in projection. Not saying other play in the machine isn't present, but the tool projection will certainly promote it.
If I'm preaching to the choir, my apologies. Great video!
Just an excellent introduction to this specific machine and CNC carvers, generally.
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Man that’s a nice machine! I am waiting for my journeyman elite. One or two more months….so keep putting out more videos!!! Thanks
Chris
The wait is the worst! I’ll do my best 🙌🏼
Great video.
Quick note on antifreeze, find yourself some "multi-vehicle" antifreeze. Standard antifreeze doesn't work with aluminum. Multi-vehicle has inhibitors to not cross contaminate mixed metals. Use it with deionized water or at least distilled water, never tap. Antifreeze should keep the water in good shape for months, likely much longer.
Antifreeze is actually a poor heat conductor if used without water. You should be fine running anywhere from 50/50 to just 25% antifreeze. Never go wrong mixing to the instructions on the bottle.
Thanks for showing the machine in action.
Thanks for the insight! I’ll check that out
Some alt options, use RV antifreeze instead of regular vehicle antifreeze (doesn't contain corrosives). Run distilled water through a CW-5200 chiller (in winter I use an aquarium heater in the cooler to ensure the temp doesn't drop to freezing as my garage gets very cold).
@@cyberhikerdd cw3000 without active refrigeration is better. Refrigerated models can cause condensation in and around the spindle. Bonus way cheaper to buy without chiller in it. Cw3000 just does ambient cooling.
@@warrenbrown8670 I have the active chiller and never experienced condensation.
Thanks for your video…I’ve been on the fence and now I’m completely sold. Love the fact that you basically showed us how to break down our budget and now I can order the CNC when I’m ready…but have all of the other stuff purchased within budget without such a huge hit! I would NEVER consider a cooled spindle…but now I will get it for sure and you showed how practical this can be to add on and run as well! Again GREAT Job!
You definitely don’t need the water cooled spindle, the air cooled is probably plenty. And yeah! The stuff adds up quick. All people see is ohhh the machine is $3000 weeelllll you need a lot of other stuff too lol thanks for watching I appreciate it
Oh yeah! The big boy is in the shop now!
got those thiiccccc rails
Same machine and same spindle I have on the way (hopefully) soon. Well my spindle is air cooled though. I am very excited for the new CNC. It will be a huge upgrade. Thanks so much for the video on it.
I feel I shoulda went air cooled too 🤔 the tubes and having to turn on one extra thing is annoying 😆
@@TwoMooseDesign I just didn't do long enough carves to need that level of cooling from what I read.
@@matthewfoster6427 yeah I probably don’t either 😆
Such a powerful machine in such a small footprint!
Tell my shop that 😆 gobbled up the whole corner!
Thank you so much for taking time to put your videos together. I enjoy watching and learning. I know you haven't had the PWC spindle kit very long, and I have no knowledge of any kind of spindle or CNC, and am just searching my options. I like how sturdy the Onefinity looks, and how nice the spindle seems to work. Anyhow, I was hoping to hear how pleased or disappointed you are with the spindle after using it for a little while. Oh, and I do appreciate the 5% discount if I do indeed go with the PWC Kit. And the 15% discount Onefinity is offering on the Elite for a limited time, they couldn't tell me how long that is going to last. Again thanks for all your videos, you do a real professional job.
Hey! The spindle is great, they’re is cheaper brands that come in kits for half the price but the PWN spindles are plug and play. The cheaper ones require programming and soldering of the cords. An air cooled spindle is a huge upgrade from the regular router.
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate that. Another quick question, I have gone ahead and ordered the Onefinity Elite Foreman, and I will be ordering the Kreg stand. My question is would the stand be sturdy enough if I went ahead and got the locking castor wheels? Your opinion is highly appreciated. (Side note, I did order the Two Moose bit set recommended through Onefinity as well.)
@@eldonhinck1487 i personally would probably skip the wheels. I don’t know, but my journeyman has the wheels and definitely has more shake than the non wheels and the foreman is pretty hefty!
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks again, I will take your advise, and if I find I need them, I can always order them later on. Living alone, I just wonder if I needed to move it, would I be able to on my own?
Thanks for the breakdown video. I've been on the fence with upgrading. After this, I'm looking forward to saving up for it!
Im super excited about the 4'x4' capabilities! The masso is great so far, ive only been using it for a few days and its pretty impressive! Like anything though definitely not need but sure is a nice upgrade.
Thanks for the video and review!
I've been wanting a CNC for a long time but never pulled the trigger. I've been considering it more and more lately. I think I'm getting pretty close and this setup looks perfect! I have a feeling it's going to have a twin brother soon. LOL
DONT DO IT! hahaha jk but it is a addicting path lol They are so fun once you get the hang of them. Same with 3d printers. Avoid them at all cost haha i bought one and now have like 6
@@TwoMooseDesign
I got the 3D printing bug years ago and went at it heavy for a long time. But I lost interest and haven't printed in years. I'm 60 and disabled. My condition is progressive so mobility is getting harder and harder. I can set up my shop centered around a CNC and it will be great for me. I brought up the purchase with my wife last night and tp my surprise, the roof is still completely intact! LOL She seems pretty receptive. I've been a licensed residential builder for 30 years but can't work the trades anymore. I've worked part-time in a theater for over eight years and it's getting old. I don't expect this to provide me a living, but I'm gonna use it for a little more than a hobby and bring in a couple extra bucks. She understands that this will be good physical and emotional therapy for me.
I'll let you know when I pull the trigger. :)
Been waiting for this!
Me too! 😆 I’ve been rushing to get this thing out lol
just got one of these with stand and its great
Nice that’s exciting!
Thanks for sharing. My two cents on DC, a cyclonic separator is a great add on to dust collection and running the 4 inch hose all the way to the spindle would better the dust collection.
Thinks for the insight! 👊🏼👊🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign What kind of issues did you have with the dust boot? I had heard that the Z-20 slider might have some compatability issues with a lot of the dust boots out there.
Air cooled is definitely the way to go. I’ve done a couple thousand jobs so far, often running all day long and have never overheated. The air also blows the chips out of the way of the cutter in most cases. I’ve been running 2 Masso machines for a couple of years now. You’re going to love it. If you haven’t already, set up Automatic Tool Length Measurement. It makes everything so much easier when you have to change up your tools.
I’ll have to research what that is! And yeah I definitely should have went air cooled and skipped all the hoses 🤔
Would you have a link to one that works with masso?
@@LavinWoodworks a spindle? Pwn spindles hook right upto it. It’s the same one I have but not water cooled. You can control it from the masso, I have a 5% off code in the description. You can buy cheaper versions but they are not plug and play like the pwn is.
@@TwoMooseDesign no I was trying to respond to the tool setter
@@TwoMooseDesign but thank you for responding! Love your videos!!
Hi Guys, this video is responsible for piquing my interest in the Onefinity. I have been eyeballing Shopbot for years but this is so much more affordable and since I am a noob it makes a lot of sense. Watching you put the spoil boards in made me wonder why you don't run a 1/16 in deep groove at the extreme limits of the cnc (full square box) on the main board below the spoil board, vs marking the bit location with a pen? Love the channel!
🤷🏼♂️ just how I chose too do it. I never cut on the extreme edges so I don’t care if it’s off a tiny bit. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
PwnCNC is SUPER excited to be partnering with Two Moose Design.
Jeff and Jess it was great meeting you at WBC. ~Clinton~
Great meeting you guys!
Still liking this machine. Was thinking of getting it
It’s been great
@@TwoMooseDesign Awesome. Glad to hear that. !
I’ll have a few more videos using it coming in in the next couple weeks
The water cooled is much quieter than the air cooled and better for running large projects. It also makes dust collection easier as the air cooled is trying to blow the chips out and away from the head, and leaves much more mess behind.
I still don't have a CNC yet but I do have a kreg bench. I put a center divider in the bottom Shelf because I have access from both sides and I made slide out shelves. This made the unit very very stiff.
Nice great tip
Thanks for such an informative video. I am more than ok with the woodworker for now but always appreciate the updates and videos of new stuff. Keep them coming!
Thanks for watching! And yeah my journeyman is plenty fine
Thanks for a quick intro. I will have mine setup as yours except mine is a journeyman elite with the kreg bench of 44x64. I hoped that fits. I also went with the Pwncnc with the 65mm air cool.
It will fit, my journeyman is on the same 44x64 bench!
@@TwoMooseDesign where did you get the 64x64 all I see is the 44x64? Did you order 64” bars and replace the 44” ones? Thanks I’m advance I’m waiting for mine !
@@reubengunderson624 order two 64 rails and one set of legs
@@reubengunderson624 I have them linked in the description
Now I just need the Onefinity Folks to hurry up with mine. 🙂
😆 the wait times suck! I just ordered a 3D printer from somewhere else and same thing 😔
I need the upgrade kit yesterday……perseverance
nice video, make all the videos you can think of for this model cnc, mine just came in last Wednesday, built a table today. now to set up and learn. thanks
So exciting! I'll defiantly try! Starting another video this week.
Bought and downloaded the waste board file, thank you. I have a problem with getting it to load on the Masso. I am using Carveco software and have saved it to 2 different thumb drives but when I plug it in the Masso doesn't find it on the drive. What am I doing wrong?!? This is driving me crazy!!!
@@justwavingenterprises2542 is the g code the correct file type? You can also send them via wifi. It should be and .NC file type.
Says carveco file and that is my only option.
@@laurac4562 can you change machine in settings or something? You should be able to change file time for different machines. I don’t run carve co yet so I’m not sure
Neat workshop,
Regards,
Jean-Frnaçois
Thank you 🙏🏼
I'm excited to get mine. Ordered it on release day. Going to use it to cut out guitars.
Ohhhh Id love to do that! I can’t play but looks so fun
@@TwoMooseDesign I can't play very well but I love them. Was my first job out of highschool building them back in early 2010s and I've just been wanting to do it again. If I didn't have to move across the country I would have taken up some offers I got awhile back to work at some companies that have gotten pretty big lol.
If you do make one they are really fun to make.
@@SA8TER21 ugh moving sucks! Lol I’ll definitely have to come up with a cool design and make one!
@@TwoMooseDesign I'll check it out. Really do the research on measurements and such. Im hoping to post some videos on relearning cad and learning to use the Onefinity hopefully it can help some people lol
@@SA8TER21 absolutely, I’m sure people would enjoy that
PwnCNC has a 20% off sale today, so obviously I had to jump on their 220v water-cooled spindle. The upgrade process begins!
Nice! That’s exciting
Wait, around 10:20 you started speaking a different cyborg language... where do I learn this? lol
The spindles with the water cooled system run quiet verses the air cooled.
I’m glad I watched this. I would have been disappointed to but the Elite foreman only to find I need another $1000 just for the spindle.
You can use a router but Yeaahh…spindles are expensive you can get them for around $500 from some Chinese companies.
Nice video! I'm hooked, just not sure if I can justify the purchase though. and then I also have to park one of my cars outside my 3 car garage
Awesome video,,, great job
Thank you 🙏🏼
I would like a closer look at the maso screen showing entering cutter length setting. Also, a closer look at the screens you showed in the video.
Easy to operate. Most manufacturers will teach consumers how to operate through the computer
Great video thank you
Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
Just starting an interest in getting my first cnc. Not having much experience in computers and none in cnc’s, I have to say this might not have been the best one for me to watch, at this point anyway. Way over my head and all the lingo and acronyms were somewhat intimidating haha. Made me wonder if I could even get into this. Not sure if a “Not For Beginners” clause in the video title might be good lol
CNCs are not just pushing a button. Expect at least a 6 month learning curve especially if you’re not good with computers, you’ll have to learn the software and the machine. It just takes practice like anything.
What size bit were you using for the test carve? I've heard that 1/2" bits can be a bit too much for the onefinity, but i'm wondering if the new heavy duty z axis helps out at all. I'm hoping to do some deeper pockets, and i'm thinking the 1/2" bits would give me the best results for that.
I use half in bits all the time. I use up cuts and down cuts for clearing. Goes way faster, I don’t use ether for cutting things out.
did you just say you can start on a certain V code!! REEEEEEEEEE!!! nice!
Yeeeessss middle, end where ever you want lol
Hey…I am here to comment on all your videos…lol. Is Sunday and just slooowly getting my day started. Anywayzzz, I noticed in another video you moved your MASSO monitor to the right side of your machine. I am right handed, so I was curious how you went about doing. I have seen some others as well. Am sure it is easy, but just curious. My machine arrives…hopefully the end of July. I opted for the Foreman QCW frame.
I dont belive you can do it with the masso unit, Its pretty easy with the orginal onefintiy but with the masso theres a lot of wires and it would be a pain to switch sides i feel lol The qcw is definitely the easiest route and so nice it bolts right on there.
@@TwoMooseDesign k, my mind must have been playin tricks on me then…lol. Thanks again for what y’all do.
@@britneyjohnson9624 possibly reach out to onefinity or comment on the facebook page. I’m sure someone figured it out 😆
Good video
Thank you 🙏🏼
You think the pond pump is reliable or should one consider getting the “water chiller” until with alarms??
I don’t think a chiller is necessary unless you’re doing super long carves or live in a hot area and don’t have climate control. Is it the best option? No lol both my machines use the cheap pump and I haven’t had issues
Be sure to factor in taxes and shipping! Came out to an extra $300 for shipping and $400 for taxes. QCW and stand was $580 (so more expensive than Kreg it seems). Touch probe and dust boot was another $200.
I did pretty rough numbers, there’s also bits and a computer if you don’t have one. Adds up quick!
@@TwoMooseDesign good point, totally forgot the bits! Gotta find a starter set somewhere. Thanks for the awesome video and looking forward to more Elite content
Ever think of bracing the table?
I have almost you same setup and the table does have some motion during cuts.
I am trying to buy the aircooled, but there are so many options which one do you recommend? after this amount of time has passed do you still feel the same about the spindle you have, im looking at the aircooled
Air cooled is totally fine! I have the 2.2 which is more than enough power for a hobbyists machine. Unless you plan on running the machine non stop water cooled is overkill
What bit are you using on the router? Do you have a link and can that bit cut through 1/2 inch plywood?
Hey! Any 1/4 down or upcut should be able to handle that
You have a pet so I would suggest propylene glycol as a coolant, it non toxic. That way you don’t have to worry about spills or leaks. Antifreeze will kill a pet really quick.
The pets don’t come in the shop often and it’s in a sealed container on the middle of the bench shelf so I’m not too worried but I’ll check it out!
Slick setup! I bet your coolant bin would be work better if it were a bright orange bucket... just sayin
Pshhhh all I need is a few stickers 😏 hurry up and post your video I’ll link it in the description
@@TwoMooseDesign lol your second one will be out before my first!
@@HamiltonDilbeck hahaha get goin!
I'm just guessing but that looks like a 3/8 bit? Try 12000rpm at 400 imp with a .175 stepdown and 50% stepover. Your chatter seems like it's just from not getting the right chip load. I run most stuff at 600 imp up to 3/4 depth full engagement. Your machine seems solid enough to take a .017 chip load
Thanks! I’ll try it
I've had the same setup running for a couple of days and I love this machine. I'm using Carveco Maker. I've created a couple of files and cut them with success (mostly). The problem I'm having is that I created some 3/4" width vectors to cut channels for some T-track. I used a 1/4" end mill to cut them 3/8" deep. After I created them, I converted the bitmap to a vector and used Flood Fill Vector. After creating the tool path and saving it, I cut the file. The width and depth were correct, but it only cut the outer edges and left the center untouched. I thought if I used flood fill, the tool would remove all the material, but it didn't. I don't even know what to call it so I can search for an answer. How would I accomplish this?
Thanks for any input.
Thanks so much for the intro to the machine. I've been considering getting a journeyman elite for a while now, and I'm just about ready to pull the plug. CNC is a completely new world for me. Question from a noob - is a spindle simply capable for higher capacity cuts, over say a makita router? and id imagine thats why it needs cooling, over a router? Thanks so much for great vid
A spindle hand handle way more abuse as its designed for it. routers are fine for starting out but they are simply not designed for running for long periods of time or being under that much load for a long period of time. I used on for the first few years then upgraded.
Excellent video! I’ve had an air cooled for years and never had any issues? 🤷♂️
Thanks! Yeahhh I probably should have went that route, the hoses and such are annoying and my shop doesn’t get super warm or anything
With your PWN spindle installed, what is the maximum depth of cut you could achieve? I am wondering what the height of the 1/2" collet to the bottom Z limit is....I am finding discrepancies in the One finity documentation materials and their website. I am contemplating buying one to see if I can work on a specialized project at home, but it would involve a pocket cut at 6-1/8" deep with a 1/2" bit... I plan to mount my material directly under the machine with a u-shaped support table, so no spoil board...
One question. I ordered basically the same unit and Kreg table. It will be here tomorrow. I had planned on it being stationary. But I've purchased five of the Kreg tables for the shop. I love the casters for them! Is your CNC on casters? If so, are there any issues doing it that way?
Thanks!
Thanks for the video. Quite helpful. Was 10' of hose enough? I assume you used 10' each for in/out.
Thanks for watching and yep it was like perfect
Nice. Want. Thanks.
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Two UGGA UGGAs you say? Precision =)
Which is more quiet, the air cooled or water cooled spindle? Thanks!
Water but either one you wouldn’t hear over the dust collection
I wonder how a tungsten carbide tip would do vs that wood
I just ordered the Foreman and Kreg bench. Can you offer any suggestions on the initial tramming of the spindle? When the plywood bench top is probably not perfect, how do you tram?
Awesome
I have the forman still in the boxes can you tell me length of t-track I will need goin to mdo the same as yours .thanks man and great video
Could u carve 2 pieces out of that piece of material. You will have to check what load and unload time is and to check for rough material loss.
would you do the video on tiling ? cheers
Hey! I don’t really have a project coming up to where I could really utilize it 🤔 I’ve always wanted to mess around with it though
@@TwoMooseDesign I'll be patient until then. I assume you would do it at some point. thanks for your work, that helps a lot
Just curious does One Infinity allow you to tram out the Spindle? Another words ensuring the spindle is flat to the sacrificial board. You would notice that when you flatten a board you have no waviness of the endmill that shaved the top of the board.
Hey I'm loving the setup! I'm looking to pretty much copy this setup but putting my on spin on it. I would like your opinion on something. I ordered the QCW spoil board rails for the Elite Foreman but after watching your video, I'm leaning towards putting down my own T-tracks and boards. Do you think I should save myself $500 and build my own? Any feedback would be much appreciated. I ordered my whole setup in May so I'm not expecting it till about October. Anyways, I'm enjoying watching your videos and I'm learning a lot! Cheers! 🍻
Thanks for the information. I am in the planing process as a hobyest. trying to determine if i sppent the extra on the elite. are you happy with onefininy and do you belive the additional $$ makes the elite worth it? Thanks again
Great video! Do you happen to have a link to the dust boot that you are using on your OneFinity elite?
Will this cut a tull 4x4 piece of plywood?
A couple questions:
What size silicone hose is it and how long?
And in the comments, under Kreg table, you have 64” rails, 44” rails, and the leg kit. What are the 44” rails for? And can’t you just but that table kit from Kreger website?
The dust collection hose is 4” and 20’ long I believe? And the 44” rails would be for the journeyman. That’s just how they offer them on amazon 🤷🏼♂️ it’s the same thing you can purchase them where you feel most comfortable.
Not the dust collection hose the water cooling hose. The Amazon link you provided has different sizes available. Is it 1/4” ID?
@@johnalex3023 yes 1/4” is correct. I’ll edit the wording so there’s no future confusion
Maybe I missed it whats the water cooling for? You aren't going to spray antifreeze on wood.
Spindle needs cooled.
It keeps the spindle cool during long multi hour carves. It stays inside and circulates through it doesn’t come out
I am patiently awaiting my Foreman to arrive, I also got the 2.2kw 220vwater cooled spindle. Seems to me the majority of cnc bits needed/ available are 1/4 to1/8. I did get a 1/2 in waist board flattening bit, I would assume an up cut and down cut end mills maybe a bowl bit, what other 1/2 bits would you suggest?
I’ve been buying more and more. If it comes in 1/2 like a bowl bit for example I’ll buy it in 1/2. 1/4 bits I’ll just get in 1/4 shanks. I use the 1/2 spiral bits for clearing I don’t cut things out with them, you can just a lot of waste
@@TwoMooseDesign my plan was to use the 1/2 bits for the first roughing pass then step down to 1/4 and or 1/8. I got the collets for all the aforementioned and 3/8.
On the fence between a onefinity and a shapeoko. Any input?
I personally cant comment on the shapeoko since I haven’t used one myself but I’ve had a onefinity since it first came out and it’s treated me well, like zero issues. No belts or v wheels is great, the community is great too.
Thanks for post this. Two questions. Is there a tool changers available for this machine? And, do you know if the spindle you have be compatible with a tool changers. Thanks again!
I believe there is one coming out here soon. This spindle is not, it needs to be pnumatic
This might be a dumb question but what bolts did you use to put the table frame together?
hey where did you get the rear dust boot from? Thanks for the video, setting mine up at the moment :)
Thanks for watching! It’s from PWN same place I got the spindle
@@TwoMooseDesign awesome thanks for your quick response.... did you go the 175mm or 220mm?, my setup is pretty much the same as yours
sorry if this is a stupid question but can it cut steal?
No I wouldn’t try it. You can cut soft metals like aluminum or brass. You would need a 𝙲𝙽𝙲 mill if you’re going to be a doing a ton of metal
Did you zip tie the coolant lines to the drag chain? If you did how’s that working out? Might have to do that myself
I did but just around the clip part, it’s fine for now. I just got some hose holders from rowdy Roman on Etsy. The zip ties work but kinda shotty lol I need to install them yet
@@TwoMooseDesign I got them too. My drag chain was damaged in shipping so those clips hit now. Onefinity is sending a replacement. Just wanted to try something in the meantime. You said just around the clip? Mean where it locks on each link? Thank you for your help!
@@LavinWoodworks awe man that sucks! Yeah the top thin part that locks in. I used small zip ties
@@TwoMooseDesign it’s all good shit happens. Happy they will send a new one out. Thanks for the advise and help. Love the videos man!!
@@LavinWoodworks thankfully they’re good about that!
I have space so I went the other route
And bought 2 commercial steel routers
They cost less than this machine
But they're are only for people with 3 phase and a lot of space
I have both luckily
Nice! Thats awesome, I don’t even know if I could get 3 phase here
Do you consider this elite foreman to be a cnc for beginners or would you recommend a machine that’s easier to get my feet wet? I’m a fan of buying once (within reason) to avoid feeling I need to upgrade later.
Thank you now I have to replace my Shapeoko pro! Lol
Isn’t that the new one?!
@@TwoMooseDesign it’s newer but mine has a cut area of 3’x3’ and it will suddenly stop moving even though the router is still spinning. Sometimes it’ll freak out and quit and you have to start all over!
@@patriotwoodworker6092sounds like a communication issue. Are you planning to sell your shapeoko machine?
Most spindles will recommend de-ionized water. I've never used coolant and the water stays clean. Does PWN recommend a coolant mixture?
I didn’t even look, that’s just what I was told to use in my other spindle 🤷🏼♂️ so that’s what I did on this one. Guess I’ll check and switch it out
Awesome, I love your videos. I am a computer dummy. Im wanting to make form blocks for airplane building out of3/4 MDF or 3/4 birch plywood. How would I go about learning how to program the CNC to make these? I dont have a clue how to get started. Thanks for any advice you could give me !!
Hey! I have no idea what airplane form blocks are 🤷🏼♂️
@@TwoMooseDesign LOL it may be an oblong shaped piece of plywood 2 feet wide by 3 feet tall with a square cut out in the middle to ben aluminum over it. this will make a bulkhead to the fuselage of an airplane. simple really. Or a piece of plywood cut out in the shape of an airplane wing rib.
@@jefferyhudson4681 so you’ll probably need a 3D model, in that case I’d look into shapr3d or fusion 360.
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks and I am enrolling in a local college for cnc programming too.
@@jefferyhudson4681 nice! That’s exciting
Question, What is the "Stiffy"
kinda afraid to ask lol ,
What software is included ?
What's the actual usable work area after any clamps ?
Did they get the Virus fixed yet ?
Thanks
The stiffy is the extra rail on top, makes it a little more rigid. It definitely helps but not needed. There’s no software included but I do believe you get a free year of carveco with purchase. On this machine the cut area is 48”x48”. I haven’t heard of any virus 🤷🏼♂️ I haven’t had any software issues with either of my machines
you never mentioned leveling the table, must i do this ?
as long as your bench isn't completely out of whack, when you surface the waste board it will take out the imperfections and "level" it to the spindle.
hi man
it is posible to cut stained glass in this machine ?
i whould like to see a video how you do it and how you set the machine for this
thanks man
all the best
Not possible
Sorry I don’t think it could be done. I don’t know how to at least
What the actual size of bed. I know it will cut a 4x4. How much space have on each side to clamp a 4x4 sheet Thanks nice video
From the outside of the cut area to the rails is 2” then pretty much all you need front and back. They make plastic brad nails I see a lot of people use too for big sheet goods
@@TwoMooseDesign thank you wondering how much clamping space on each side there was. Doesn’t seem like a lot 2 inches on each side. Thank you 🙏
It say it comes with a one year software included, what is the cost of the software when the one year expires? Thanks!
I don’t use carveco, I use v carve pro and it’s around $500-600. Carveco is a subscription and it’s Monthly payments
Quick question, which brand dust boot are you using? I watched this the other day and don’t remember if you happen to mentor in the video.
I have one of the pwn boots I’m trying out, I typically use the suck it dust boot.
@@TwoMooseDesign which one did you get from PWN, I ordered the v7 for my Foreman with an 80 mm spindle, and received an email today saying the Z-20 x-axis is incompatible with the v7. Just wondering if I should just order the suck it from onefinity
@@baileythompson3680 uhhhhhh V3 I’m pretty sure. And you can run the suck it I got two tiny adapters with my elite for the suck it.
@@TwoMooseDesign thank you for the information. It was nice to meet yall at workbench con
Curious…it DOESNT come with a handheld controller (like the Xbox) or it CANT be used with the handheld controller (like Xbox).
I have the handheld Xbox for mine and there is no way I’d have a cnc without it…super handy when setting up workpieces!
Yeah I don’t know why you can use a pendant which is just a fancy controller 😆 I do really love the x box controller!
I was thinking about getting an one infinity 4x4 elite . Do I have to purchase spendal from another company?
You can use a makita router. Onefinity doesn’t offer their own spindle yet. I got one from PWN 𝙲𝙽𝙲. Starting out the router is just fine
How much cost of 3 axis controller cost
I am looking to buy the 32"x48" Elite Journeyman, and I will probably go with a 80mm air cooled spindle. My intention is to cut speaker flat packs, for my MLTL-6 (mass loaded transmission line) speakers.
I have a question about the drag chain - does it come with the machine; or where did you get it? What size/length is it?
I like your bench - the storage would be a big factor for me. Thank you for covering the dust collection and the Masso - this is very helpful.
The elite models come with a drag chain. I don’t believe the non elite machines do at least not when I got my first machine. I purchased a kit on Etsy from route 101 😬 I can’t think of his shop, if you type it in it will come up. I talk about it in one of my wasteboard videos I believed, it wasn’t hard to add.
@@TwoMooseDesign - thank you. This video was excellent - I am looking to find out about what programs I can use to create the G-files? Possibly SketchUp? That is what I used in the past, with my PhlatPrinter III. And if you can store files in the Masso.
I will need to have jigs that let me load and clamp cut panels to do repeatable production.
great videro man. how big can you get the cnc in?
The 4’x4’ is their biggest model
@@TwoMooseDesign dang . Would be cool in a 5x10
@@lighthousewoodworks check out avid they make some nice larger machines that aren’t super expensive
If you have an og onefinity woodworker, can you just upgrade to this new system, or do you have to get an entirely new full CNC setup?
You can upgrade to the Masso. Onefinity says that the upgrade should be available in late Q2 of this year (end of June). I'm anticipating a little longer than that.
@@akayii thanks for letting me know. The feature I’m really looking forward to is the rotary, so I’m probably just going to wait until that’s available and upgrade all at once.
Yeah I have no idea on any of that 🤷🏼♂️ they did say it would happen but I doubt until they catch up on the flood of regular elite orders