So far I am like my Downtown Jenny and I can’t wait to try Cody’s bowl bit that Hamilton worked with him on. I am looking forward to the day I can upgrade. Thinking an Elite but I can’t wait to see what you can do. Thanks for sharing
Can't wait to see what you make and follow along! Just recently found your channel while researching lasers and kove your style and presentation. Definitely will be following along for the ride!
@@TheClackShack the process and learning of ups and downs is the most valuable parts and where we learn and gain the most. (Even though it rarely seems like it at the time)
The Shapeoko 5 Pro is an excellent CNC for milling wood and even some light machining of aluminum. It produces better surface finishes when milling aluminum than some DIY machine builds which are specifically designed for machining metal. You wouldn't have gone wrong with either the Onefinity or the Shapeoko, as both are more than capable of producing quality one-off custom wood projects and small production runs. Enjoy your new machine!
Good, clean looking machine. Ball screws make precision moves exact. I maintained Large CNC machines and other precision equipment my entire working career. Enjoy your new machine.
Thanks, I spent a lot of time with the cable management and placement of all the components to keep it looking that way. I think it is going to serve me well..
I have the Shapeoko 3xxl. I like the company and the machine. Unless I start cranking out projects by the 100s, I see no reason to upgrade. Don’t second guess you purchase. That’s a solid machine that will do whatever you want. Perhaps the Onefinity is better in some areas but most people wouldn’t notice, especially in a small shop setting. I’m looking forward to your content. Side note: I use Carveco Maker+ for my design software and love that also.
@@TheClackShack If you haven’t nailed down which software to invest in, Carveco Maker can be used for a $15 a month subscription. If making content is important software wise, UA-cam is needing more Carveco tutorials as well. Vectric is all over the place. Carveco is amazing and the folks at Carveco are amazing too.
@@TheClackShack If you haven’t nailed down which software to invest in, Carveco Maker can be used for a $15 a month subscription. If making content is important software wise, UA-cam is needing more Carveco tutorials as well. Vectric is all over the place. Carveco is amazing and the folks at Carveco are amazing too.
Thank you very much for the insightful video. Did you consider the Altmill 48" x 48" as one of your choices? If so, what didn't you not like about the Altmill that you decided to go with the Shapeoko? Any light you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the great videos.
Congrats on the Shapeoko Clack. I knew when you got that first Genmitsu it wouldn't be long before you'd get a big boy machine. 😃 Looking forward to seeing the chips fly!
Seinci labs does not use belts. They do use the v-wheels and lead screws vs ball screws. But you are still limited to 48X30. To stay in that larger range, I think you made a good choice for the price. Onefinity Does look like a beefy machine though. I like the spindle cam.
They're now taking orders for their new Altmill. Linear bearings, ball screws, closed loop 23 steppers, 49x49 work area, included leg kit - $3465 INCLUDING 1.5 kw spindle for $515 - ER16 collet for 3/8" bits. Delivery in late summer. It looks like pretty much a clone of the 5 Pro for a good deal less. $170 shipping to me with no tax. My cart for the 5 Pro with the spindle (ER11 collet) was $4500 plus $360 tax free shipping. So the Alt mill is $1000 cheaper. 4th axis support, tool changer support. You can bet that PwnCNC has one now and is licking their chops. Look for their spindly-ATC offering to be available about the time that shipping levels out for the Altmill.
I have the Shapeoko Pro 2X4 and I love it. It's great to see that your going to provide content on this machine, there's not many out there. I am looking forward to seeing your upcoming videos. One question are you going to be using the Carbide Create to develop your projects? Thanks,
Cool. Great explanation. Really looking forward to the content you make from this as you get up to speed on this machine. I'm a little way out from adding a CNC to my shop, but am doing research now so i can make a well-informed decision when I do go forward. Have some shop organization things to do so I can add tool like this into my existing floor space. Totally agree with your reasoning for wanting a 4 x 4 capability -- that is one of my criteria as well.
I really enjoy your videos. I am in the market for a CNC machine but have never used one and am a little nervous mainly because of the learning curve of the software. I too have narrowed it down to Shapeoko and Onefinity.
No, the whole thing about a CNC is that it can work on one project while I work on another. My machine is $3800 and requires supervision, not assistance
Thanks for your video and going through your thought process. I am in process of choosing my first CNC right now and looking at the Shapeoko 4 XL. I have the same Wen dust collector you're using on your CNC. Does that unit seem to work well for the CNC process vs just a normal shop vac? Any special adapters, parts need to buy to make it work?
@@TheClackShack Definitely wouldn't mind a pro 5 but I don't have neither. By surprise, my cnc4newbie had free shipping from Canada to Georgia. Have no idea how they do it.
Just to be clear on what you were saying about the spindle speed. If you set the RPM too low in Vetric, as you stated the spindle will not turn. Dose the machine still run the gcode, or does the machine not move at all?
Good video!!! I will own a cnc SOME DAY hopefully. Good Lord willing. Would very much like to meet you someday. Maybe at Peach Park, since I'm just down the road in Wetumpka. Take Care!!
I've had a SO3 XXL for years now and just sold it. I've been going back and forth over the OneFinity Pro (vs Elite) and the SO5 which were very similar. While I think the OneFinity may be a better machine as far as speed, when you add up what you get with the SO5 and free shipping vs. the shipping from Canada for the OneFinity, it just made more money sense to go with the SO5. On Order!
That was kinda where I stood also. I have no regrets, this machine is capable of way more than I have the courage to do. I am slowly getting faster with my speeds, bits aren't cheap.
@@TheClackShack I agree. While the OneFinity will go fast, I mostly make guitars with some expensive top wood, so prefer to go at a reasonable speed and go for smooth cuts and accuracy. I know when I pushed the SO3 it would deflect some with hard woods, so definitely the next one would have screws vs. belts. They also include a lot more on the SO5 than the OneFinity where I'd have to buy everything and make my own waste board, etc. I also wasn't too thrilled with having to load gCode via USB on the OneFinity since I usually tweak some things in Vectric for the next piece coming up while Motion is sending the previous job.
@@rtroiani I haven’t seen any deflection but sometimes the speeds seem impossible. So far I haven’t broken any bits. If you decide to order, I have links…lol
@@TheClackShack I never broke a bit on the SO3. I doubt the SO5 will have any deflection, so I should be good! My SO3 was about 8 or 9 years old and had smaller belts than they even put on the SO4 these days.
That would be an awesome machine to own instead of my stepcraft d600. Not a professional need to get the 5 Pro for me but a machine with all that included for THAT price would be a value. Congrats on the machine!! Space is my current concern though for my apartment.
I have a D840 that I bought used for a song. $1200 including the little laser engraver and the 2d printer attachment and the bigger spindle (although I mostly use the tiny one because it's almost silent. I don't really want another CNC but the 840 is just too small on X axis.
@@frankshannon3235 I kept wanting a larger work area as well. I haven’t had that issue lately. I usually only use about 24x24 area but I do have some larger projects planned.
@@TheClackShack I'd like to have full sheet ability when needed. Tiling along the Y is fine. Here's my deal. Am I going to buy a 5 Pro and then 4 months later Carbide introduces their spanking new Masso interface. There's going to be pressure for that 4th axis.
@@frankshannon3235 the controller of my machine has some extra ports for “accessories”. I have a 4th axis for other Grbl machines. You never know what may come
Love the Infor. However, I have a question that YB'ers/Shapeoko video's just haven't talked about or answered for me. Love this machine, Done extensive research on many CNC routers. For the price tag vs what you get is about the best. But my question is about software. I have D/L 'ed Carbide and V-carve software. Both are good, user friendly. Now to my questions: **Can both software's be use at the same time on 1 machine? (I don't mean "Same Time" literally) You mentioned in this video you used a few different software's. **Can you finish a project using Carbide, Start another project using V-Carve?..........Easily? My background is Manual/CNC Machining, 38 years worth. I really like both software, Pro and Cons for both, but together, only your limited to your imagination.
You can design in vcarve or carbide software. As far as starting in one and finishing in another, I have no idea, I only use vcarve for design. To me, the carbide software "works" but lacks the design capabilities on vcarve.
I have a Onefinity and despite all of the improvements made by Shapeoko, the Onefinity base model is still extremely superior to any Shapeoko product the Pro and Elite series leave Shapeoko way, way behind in the dust in my opinion...but as usual an awesome video from an awesome channel its just unfortunate you bought the wrong machine 😃😆🤣
So far I am like my Downtown Jenny and I can’t wait to try Cody’s bowl bit that Hamilton worked with him on. I am looking forward to the day I can upgrade. Thinking an Elite but I can’t wait to see what you can do. Thanks for sharing
I grabbed up one of the bowl bits and gotta get a file that I can use it on. So many ideas, so little time.. Thanks for watching..
Good job. I’m at that point of researching as you did. Just wondering, did you consider the Long Mill?
Yes, didn’t want any rubber in the drivetrain.
Can't wait to see what you make and follow along!
Just recently found your channel while researching lasers and kove your style and presentation.
Definitely will be following along for the ride!
I may be a bumpy ride… still learning this spindle business..
@@TheClackShack the process and learning of ups and downs is the most valuable parts and where we learn and gain the most. (Even though it rarely seems like it at the time)
The Shapeoko 5 Pro is an excellent CNC for milling wood and even some light machining of aluminum. It produces better surface finishes when milling aluminum than some DIY machine builds which are specifically designed for machining metal. You wouldn't have gone wrong with either the Onefinity or the Shapeoko, as both are more than capable of producing quality one-off custom wood projects and small production runs. Enjoy your new machine!
I think so too.. Thanks.
Good, clean looking machine. Ball screws make precision moves exact. I maintained Large CNC machines and other precision equipment my entire working career. Enjoy your new machine.
Thanks, I spent a lot of time with the cable management and placement of all the components to keep it looking that way. I think it is going to serve me well..
I have the Shapeoko 3xxl. I like the company and the machine. Unless I start cranking out projects by the 100s, I see no reason to upgrade. Don’t second guess you purchase. That’s a solid machine that will do whatever you want. Perhaps the Onefinity is better in some areas but most people wouldn’t notice, especially in a small shop setting. I’m looking forward to your content. Side note: I use Carveco Maker+ for my design software and love that also.
I have to use the software more to get my legs under me. I am sure I can do more with time. Thanks..
@@TheClackShack If you haven’t nailed down which software to invest in, Carveco Maker can be used for a $15 a month subscription. If making content is important software wise, UA-cam is needing more Carveco tutorials as well. Vectric is all over the place. Carveco is amazing and the folks at Carveco are amazing too.
@@TheClackShack If you haven’t nailed down which software to invest in, Carveco Maker can be used for a $15 a month subscription. If making content is important software wise, UA-cam is needing more Carveco tutorials as well. Vectric is all over the place. Carveco is amazing and the folks at Carveco are amazing too.
Thank you very much for the insightful video. Did you consider the Altmill 48" x 48" as one of your choices? If so, what didn't you not like about the Altmill that you decided to go with the Shapeoko? Any light you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the great videos.
I did look at the Longmill, they did not have the Alt Mill at the time. I think it is a good machine, just a little more "DIY" as far as the assembly.
Thank you very much for the quick response.
Congrats on the Shapeoko Clack. I knew when you got that first Genmitsu it wouldn't be long before you'd get a big boy machine. 😃 Looking forward to seeing the chips fly!
It was inevitable, I had to get my feet under me first. It is very fun and the projects should be much more substantial now.
@TheClackShack I see a co2 laser in your future too. Just sayin. 😃
@@DaveGatton I have the P2 and about full right now.
Seinci labs does not use belts. They do use the v-wheels and lead screws vs ball screws. But you are still limited to 48X30. To stay in that larger range, I think you made a good choice for the price. Onefinity Does look like a beefy machine though. I like the spindle cam.
Thanks. I see now, oops. Not sure why I thought it used belts unless I mixed it up with the earlier shapeoko pro… they do look alike
They're now taking orders for their new Altmill. Linear bearings, ball screws, closed loop 23 steppers, 49x49 work area, included leg kit - $3465 INCLUDING 1.5 kw spindle for $515 - ER16 collet for 3/8" bits. Delivery in late summer. It looks like pretty much a clone of the 5 Pro for a good deal less. $170 shipping to me with no tax. My cart for the 5 Pro with the spindle (ER11 collet) was $4500 plus $360 tax free shipping. So the Alt mill is $1000 cheaper.
4th axis support, tool changer support. You can bet that PwnCNC has one now and is licking their chops. Look for their spindly-ATC offering to be available about the time that shipping levels out for the Altmill.
@@frankshannon3235 sounds like it got some upgrades. Nice
@@JackInTheShop I was thinking the same thing about Seinci Labs. I’ve been looking for over a year n half and I didn’t recall them ever using bells.
I have the Shapeoko Pro 2X4 and I love it. It's great to see that your going to provide content on this machine, there's not many out there. I am looking forward to seeing your upcoming videos. One question are you going to be using the Carbide Create to develop your projects? Thanks,
I use VCarve to do my designing. I had learned it for use with other machines.
Cool. Great explanation. Really looking forward to the content you make from this as you get up to speed on this machine. I'm a little way out from adding a CNC to my shop, but am doing research now so i can make a well-informed decision when I do go forward. Have some shop organization things to do so I can add tool like this into my existing floor space. Totally agree with your reasoning for wanting a 4 x 4 capability -- that is one of my criteria as well.
The cost isn’t much different in any model as long as you have the space for it.
I like the monitor mounted high in the back. What’s your setup for the monitor and running CM?
Monitor is actually a roku TV on a wall mount. Using the HDMI input to run the computer on it.
have you done any inlays, if I spend for CNC I want to do inlays, Great video as always very informative. I will be looking at this deeply
I have done a couple, no pro though.
I really enjoy your videos. I am in the market for a CNC machine but have never used one and am a little nervous mainly because of the learning curve of the software. I too have narrowed it down to Shapeoko and Onefinity.
Either would be a good machine...
Awesome video, thank you! Did you ever consider a Shaper Origin?
No, the whole thing about a CNC is that it can work on one project while I work on another. My machine is $3800 and requires supervision, not assistance
Thanks for your video and going through your thought process. I am in process of choosing my first CNC right now and looking at the Shapeoko 4 XL. I have the same Wen dust collector you're using on your CNC. Does that unit seem to work well for the CNC process vs just a normal shop vac? Any special adapters, parts need to buy to make it work?
It works ok. I have now moved up to a shopsmith and it works about the same but is much quieter. Just a 4 inch to 2.5 inch adapter for hose
Good video! We're honored to be in the running! When you're ready to go from a machine that does 200ipm to ours that does 400ipm, we're here! :P
Maybe one day. I plan to expand when floor space permits.
Lead times & $500 shipping makes the onefinity less desirable for me...
@@claytonmitchell03 that is a disadvantage. I considered those things as well.
@@TheClackShack
Definitely wouldn't mind a pro 5 but I don't have neither. By surprise, my cnc4newbie had free shipping from Canada to Georgia.
Have no idea how they do it.
The shipping on the Onefinity is why my Shapeoko Pro 5 will be here tomorrow.
Just to be clear on what you were saying about the spindle speed. If you set the RPM too low in Vetric, as you stated the spindle will not turn. Dose the machine still run the gcode, or does the machine not move at all?
Yes but without spinning, the bit acts more like a chisel… lol
@@TheClackShackWell that is not good. LOL
Good video!!! I will own a cnc SOME DAY hopefully. Good Lord willing. Would very much like to meet you someday. Maybe at Peach Park, since I'm just down the road in Wetumpka. Take Care!!
April 20th, Steve and I will be at Maymay’s…
@@TheClackShack Excellent!, will do my best to be there. Is this all day, or just a few hours?
@@banjoeypicks should be the majority of the day. I will be sure to set up an event for the times as it gets closer
@@TheClackShack Thanks much!
Great video 👍 can't wait to see what you make it on
You and me both!
I've had a SO3 XXL for years now and just sold it. I've been going back and forth over the OneFinity Pro (vs Elite) and the SO5 which were very similar. While I think the OneFinity may be a better machine as far as speed, when you add up what you get with the SO5 and free shipping vs. the shipping from Canada for the OneFinity, it just made more money sense to go with the SO5. On Order!
That was kinda where I stood also. I have no regrets, this machine is capable of way more than I have the courage to do. I am slowly getting faster with my speeds, bits aren't cheap.
@@TheClackShack I agree. While the OneFinity will go fast, I mostly make guitars with some expensive top wood, so prefer to go at a reasonable speed and go for smooth cuts and accuracy. I know when I pushed the SO3 it would deflect some with hard woods, so definitely the next one would have screws vs. belts. They also include a lot more on the SO5 than the OneFinity where I'd have to buy everything and make my own waste board, etc. I also wasn't too thrilled with having to load gCode via USB on the OneFinity since I usually tweak some things in Vectric for the next piece coming up while Motion is sending the previous job.
@@rtroiani I haven’t seen any deflection but sometimes the speeds seem impossible. So far I haven’t broken any bits. If you decide to order, I have links…lol
@@TheClackShack I never broke a bit on the SO3. I doubt the SO5 will have any deflection, so I should be good! My SO3 was about 8 or 9 years old and had smaller belts than they even put on the SO4 these days.
How big is your table top?
Mine is 65x65
I got the same one in January. It’s awesome.
I am loving mine..
hi, can lightburn be used for cnc router table?
Some but currently just if equipped with a laser head. They are making a spindle based software also.
That would be an awesome machine to own instead of my stepcraft d600. Not a professional need to get the 5 Pro for me but a machine with all that included for THAT price would be a value. Congrats on the machine!! Space is my current concern though for my apartment.
Yea, I went with the bigger machine. Just in case.
I have a D840 that I bought used for a song. $1200 including the little laser engraver and the 2d printer attachment and the bigger spindle (although I mostly use the tiny one because it's almost silent. I don't really want another CNC but the 840 is just too small on X axis.
@@frankshannon3235 I kept wanting a larger work area as well. I haven’t had that issue lately. I usually only use about 24x24 area but I do have some larger projects planned.
@@TheClackShack I'd like to have full sheet ability when needed. Tiling along the Y is fine. Here's my deal. Am I going to buy a 5 Pro and then 4 months later Carbide introduces their spanking new Masso interface. There's going to be pressure for that 4th axis.
@@frankshannon3235 the controller of my machine has some extra ports for “accessories”. I have a 4th axis for other Grbl machines. You never know what may come
Love the Infor.
However, I have a question that YB'ers/Shapeoko video's just haven't talked about or answered for me.
Love this machine, Done extensive research on many CNC routers. For the price tag vs what you get is about the best.
But my question is about software. I have D/L 'ed Carbide and V-carve software. Both are good, user friendly.
Now to my questions:
**Can both software's be use at the same time on 1 machine? (I don't mean "Same Time" literally)
You mentioned in this video you used a few different software's.
**Can you finish a project using Carbide, Start another project using V-Carve?..........Easily?
My background is Manual/CNC Machining, 38 years worth. I really like both software,
Pro and Cons for both, but together, only your limited to your imagination.
You can design in vcarve or carbide software. As far as starting in one and finishing in another, I have no idea, I only use vcarve for design. To me, the carbide software "works" but lacks the design capabilities on vcarve.
Knight Rider...... Pshaw.... I'm more of a Street Hawk kind of guy. 😎
Or Airwolf…
Well of course, but I was trying to keep with the motorcycle theme.
Just wait till you shop for an auto loader for your new big boy table.
I am gonna need more shop before I can shop... lol
Awesome Video!
Thanks
So why did you chose the Shapeoko 5 pro?
As stated in the video...
@@TheClackShack It's like an 18 minute video that just goes on and on... Boomer UA-cam is awful.
@@thebatmakescomics The great think is there are millions of channels out there.. Keep on scrolling troll
@@TheClackShack ok boomer
You'll go bigger, we all do...
Maybe...
Nice
Thanks
I have a Onefinity and despite all of the improvements made by Shapeoko, the Onefinity base model is still extremely superior to any Shapeoko product the Pro and Elite series leave Shapeoko way, way behind in the dust in my opinion...but as usual an awesome video from an awesome channel its just unfortunate you bought the wrong machine 😃😆🤣
I think I did ok in the decision but time will tell. Maybe when I get enough room, I can have a side by side comparison.
I ordered my Shapeoko 5 Pro this past week and finally pulled the trigger. I'm looking forward to getting it up and running.
@@PatioBenders How is the machine doing?
👍👍
Thanks
i like it
Thanks…