Read more in-depth into what makes each of these video cameras unique in our full comparison review article here! www.soundstripe.com/blogs/canon-r6-mark-ii-vs-sony-a7-iv
At this point Sony vs Canon feels like iOs vs Andriod. Canon, like iOs, just works out of the box. Great colors, great system, intuitive, comfortable, very high quality, closed system, limited features for certain users, allows you to just plug and play, focus on your creativity. Sony, like Andriod, has a robust custom system, not so intuitive but has a higher performance ceiling, open system to other vendors, the user is often the limit to what the device can truly do, you need to fine tune it to your needs Both fantastic systems that serve different users. There comes a point where there is neither right or wrong with these, they are tools that let you express yourself. That being said, I'm a hobbyist photographer who wants to get back to shooting. Socials and UA-camrs are all about Sony but after take a step back and looking at what I want to do I'm leaning towards the Canon R8, RF 50mm F1.8, RF 85mm F2, RF70-200mm F4 for family and the odd job here and there. I was initially going to go with the A7III with a similar lens set up but I think would enjoy shooting on Canon more. I haven't used either system and I'm starting from scratch. Max Budget: $3500
You missed the biggest cripples on the A7IV... cropped 4K60 and really bad rolling shutter. That and the 2005 LCD are deal breakers. As for the IBIS, I've seen about a dozen comparisons and this is the first one that picked the Sony. All the rest picked the Canon. The R6 II has the fastest readout of any non stacked full frame sensor out there. I did comparisons for raw photos and the R6 II has slightly more dynamic range than the Sony, and is slightly cleaner at higher ISOs. Clog3 really seems to be the crutch here (not the sensor).
Came here to say the exact same thing! Not a single other review has said sony ibis is better. Since the first R6 canon has always won that. And how did they miss the full frame 4k60 vs the forced crop on the a7iv?
I like Sony's lighter and more compact form factor. The dynamic range is it's main selling point IMO. But I dont know if you can say it wins in the video department outright due to its rolling shutter, cropped 4k, and lack of raw recording. The moment you pan the camera it goes from a wonderful filmic camera to a $200 1996 video camera. That's disappointing. I wish Canon unlocked Clog 2 on the Canon, but it does record externally in 6k raw. At least Canon's most distinct disadvantage (dynamic range) can be remedied by an external recorder to some extent, but can you fix rolling shutter, cropped 4k, and lack of raw recording? This experiment is flawed in that it uses the best Sony lens on the A7IV next to an older generation lens on the Canon. The RF lens is much better and is stabilized. Canon's IBIS is meant to be optimized in combination with RF lenses. IMO Canon beat Sony in this class of camera, shockingly.
Agree, but actually it displays a valid point. I went with the A7iv (as someone who prefers Canon) due to the exorbitant lens cost for RF. EF glass, even used, is often the same price as the exceptional (and partly Sony owned) Tamron. Aside from the lower rez rear LCD, I enjoy the Sony system. Canon still is overall my favorite experience.
The Canon R6 Mark II does not officially have dual native ISO. However, some users have reported that it performs similarly to cameras with dual native ISO, particularly at ISO 800 and 3200, where it seems to produce cleaner images with less noise.
i use canon eos rp and eos r till this day, for the file, sony win hands down, clean high iso, dynamic range ... but 3+ year using RP its never over heat or shutter problem, or button problem or body rubber problem. my sony friend that use a7 classic, the body is loosing the paint, and the body rubber is fell offf, the dial button is much stiffer now, the canon is fine. and my friend using the a7ii for 3 year and have service 5 time, replace the flexible cable and the mother board, that couse the button not function. so the durability of eos r is like a tank, is more similiar to 5Dmk2. very durable.
This is why I don’t trust youtubers. 1:24 you gave Sony Cinema Gamut color Space but for the Canon Rec 709, why? Canon has Rec 2020 and Cinema Gamut. Why limit the Canon to a limited color space? Completely Biased
Absolutely agree with you and that’s why being a canon user having the R5 bought the Sony a7IV over the original R6, lens selection and Specs including 32 megapixels for wildlife photography. It would be a tougher decision today with the R6 Mark II as I love the ergonomics of Canon but would still buy the Sony for weddings with the Tamron 35-150! 😊
The Tamron 35-150 is the main reason I’m keeping the Sony. Though I’m tempted to go with Canon for Autofocus, nicer grip for me, better colors and I’d probably go with a 28-70 F2
nice review.... I always find it interesting nobody mentions false color for exposure on the R6 mii. Love this feature. for me much better than zebra's. the mini HDMi is a big downer for sure. Noise cleans up well but not an issue for me. (I shoot weddings/commercial). wide angle IBIS with wobble is really poor with canon. End of the day.... both units really rock. especial if paired with an atomos ninja.
I have the R6 Mark II and have to say the noise in video for CLOG-3 is extremely frustrating. I am glad to see it here because I thought maybe it was me. I sold the A7IV in favor of the R6 Mark II for sports photo purposes and that is where I personally feel the R6 II wins out, that and the rolling shutter performance is much better on the R6 Mark II.. With that said if I could go back in time, I would likely keep the A7IV as I feel like it is the better overall hybrid camera for someone who leans more on the video side.
As an editor myself who loves adding stupid visual memes: I want to give a wholehearted tip of my fedora to y'all's editor for the "4k video capturing tool" joke @ 2:14 🔥
they are not shooting max. r6mk2 is 6k raw! and yes the r6 has base iso at 800 and 3200. but its not the best at noise or dynamic range. its the fastest in that price range though
My big issue with Canon is no 3rd party support for Lenses, Sigma as of lately is killing with quality and price. For example I have a 50mm f 1.2 Sigma for $1389 the canon option is $2099. It 700 on just one lens.
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Maybe Sony has noise reduction enabled. And by canon it was off?
I mean it depends what kind of photography you're going to do. If you're gonna do that weird thing where you suck the image dry and then add blue and orange tint to everything. Sony will get you there quicker.
Great video, thanks! Would love to see a series on the best EF adapted glass for RF. I shoot on an A7iv currently but that was due to 20mp on the R6 not cutting it for me... and the lens selection cost-to-performance ration. Such outstanding affordable or top notch GM used offerings out there. Canon truly is shooting themselves in the hot-shoe by closing their RF mount to 3rd Party. I'd be back on Canon if the lens landscape was different. I also thoroughly enjoy how customizable Sony's bodies are. There are far more customization options/buttons on the Sony System... but really miss being able to use the top 1/3rd of the rear screen as a joystick (RP)! Thanks again, balanced review!
I own the Canon R6. Awesome camera with incredible auto focus, good low light, great color straight out of camera, and easy to use. Cons, and there are a few, 20 mp, micro hdmi, overheating ( can be managed ), only one movie mode and can't save more than one. etc., etc., etc.... I own with no regrets. It has done whatever I push it to do... Stillllll..... R6 ii...hmmm, or upgrade to R5, hmmmmm..... As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying....
I wrestled with the idea of R5 or R6 mk II (I already had an R6), and I ended up getting the R6 MK II. I love having the original R6 and R6 MK II. We need more firmware updates though
Three dealerbreakers on sony iv ....4k 60 crop bad rolling shutter and sony is electronics company portfolio if you use to that digital fake look than canon optical natural color science look. Canon is best photo while sony best 4k 30 or less already easy edit digital video...con is all sony lenses plus third party pointless if 4k60 crop.
Just the excessive noise in the r6 is enough for me to go with the Sony. Because how often are you gonna Pan your camera like crazy to see a rolling shutter?
You probably figured this out by now lol but they're both unlimited regarding video time. I saw another video saying they filmed for almost 4 hours on R6 Mark II and it didn't overheat. I use the A7IV for real estate photos and videos, so it's not on for that long at a time, but I never experienced overheating.
Thanks for creating the video! I'm not a fan of Micro HDMI but calling it cruddy makes it sound like it is non functional. The truth is... The port is just less robust. The sharpness test is neither here nor there because the A7iv is sharper that some of the best cinema cameras out there. (Less digital sharpness is usually more desired for a filmic look)
Agreed. The Sonys tend to have a very "video" oversharpened look to them that I don't like. Canon Clog by default has a lower sharpness which can be increased in the settings if you want that.
I’m very happy as a Sony shooter fully invested in the system but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have Canon envy! Hard to go wrong with either tool for being creative.
My conclusion is that reviews are not 100% reliable. Most leans toward Sony and since most of these products are so expensive you rarely get an apples to apples comparison. Someone here mentioned the EF lens used in the video for the R6 mk2 does not work with the IBIS. The Canon enthusiast on you tube note that there in fact a real weakness with wobble but its only with 24mm and under. Its possible what we saw in this review regarding the wobble was due to lens incompatibility. As expensive as they are, I recommend to go with RF lenses if you go Canon. I ended up with the R6 mk 2 myself because of the recent discounts. I was able to get it for $2299 USD with the 24-105 STM. The A7 IV was discounted for the same but only the body.
Read more in-depth into what makes each of these video cameras unique in our full comparison review article here! www.soundstripe.com/blogs/canon-r6-mark-ii-vs-sony-a7-iv
At this point Sony vs Canon feels like iOs vs Andriod.
Canon, like iOs, just works out of the box. Great colors, great system, intuitive, comfortable, very high quality, closed system, limited features for certain users, allows you to just plug and play, focus on your creativity.
Sony, like Andriod, has a robust custom system, not so intuitive but has a higher performance ceiling, open system to other vendors, the user is often the limit to what the device can truly do, you need to fine tune it to your needs
Both fantastic systems that serve different users. There comes a point where there is neither right or wrong with these, they are tools that let you express yourself. That being said, I'm a hobbyist photographer who wants to get back to shooting. Socials and UA-camrs are all about Sony but after take a step back and looking at what I want to do I'm leaning towards the Canon R8, RF 50mm F1.8, RF 85mm F2, RF70-200mm F4 for family and the odd job here and there.
I was initially going to go with the A7III with a similar lens set up but I think would enjoy shooting on Canon more. I haven't used either system and I'm starting from scratch.
Max Budget: $3500
Where are you from I’m looking to maximize a $4500 budget I’m thinking about getting the canon R5 or R6M2
You missed the biggest cripples on the A7IV... cropped 4K60 and really bad rolling shutter. That and the 2005 LCD are deal breakers. As for the IBIS, I've seen about a dozen comparisons and this is the first one that picked the Sony. All the rest picked the Canon. The R6 II has the fastest readout of any non stacked full frame sensor out there.
I did comparisons for raw photos and the R6 II has slightly more dynamic range than the Sony, and is slightly cleaner at higher ISOs. Clog3 really seems to be the crutch here (not the sensor).
Thanks for letting us know! Definitely some other big considerations.
How did you test the dynamic range?
hell yeah
I see it as an advantage.
Came here to say the exact same thing! Not a single other review has said sony ibis is better. Since the first R6 canon has always won that. And how did they miss the full frame 4k60 vs the forced crop on the a7iv?
wait, did you compare sony with G lens vs Canon with old EF ? it's not feasible test. use RF
I like Sony's lighter and more compact form factor. The dynamic range is it's main selling point IMO. But I dont know if you can say it wins in the video department outright due to its rolling shutter, cropped 4k, and lack of raw recording. The moment you pan the camera it goes from a wonderful filmic camera to a $200 1996 video camera. That's disappointing. I wish Canon unlocked Clog 2 on the Canon, but it does record externally in 6k raw. At least Canon's most distinct disadvantage (dynamic range) can be remedied by an external recorder to some extent, but can you fix rolling shutter, cropped 4k, and lack of raw recording? This experiment is flawed in that it uses the best Sony lens on the A7IV next to an older generation lens on the Canon. The RF lens is much better and is stabilized. Canon's IBIS is meant to be optimized in combination with RF lenses. IMO Canon beat Sony in this class of camera, shockingly.
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Agree, but actually it displays a valid point. I went with the A7iv (as someone who prefers Canon) due to the exorbitant lens cost for RF. EF glass, even used, is often the same price as the exceptional (and partly Sony owned) Tamron. Aside from the lower rez rear LCD, I enjoy the Sony system. Canon still is overall my favorite experience.
Not at all
it will only wobble if your hand is shakey,. i have canon R6,. im using it all on my wedding video events hand held,. and its better than SONY IBIS,.
Can you tell me please which one better for video thank u
The Canon R6 Mark II does not officially have dual native ISO. However, some users have reported that it performs similarly to cameras with dual native ISO, particularly at ISO 800 and 3200, where it seems to produce cleaner images with less noise.
I just bought my 3rd A7iv for $1500 with 11k but I’m thinking to buy a refurbished r6ii for $1700 directly from canon just to second shoot.
i use canon eos rp and eos r till this day, for the file, sony win hands down, clean high iso, dynamic range ... but 3+ year using RP its never over heat or shutter problem, or button problem or body rubber problem. my sony friend that use a7 classic, the body is loosing the paint, and the body rubber is fell offf, the dial button is much stiffer now, the canon is fine. and my friend using the a7ii for 3 year and have service 5 time, replace the flexible cable and the mother board, that couse the button not function. so the durability of eos r is like a tank, is more similiar to 5Dmk2. very durable.
r6 mk2 doesn't use IBIS with this EF lens even if it turned on in the menu
true
Sony does not have better ibis. It's micro jitters galore.
This is why I don’t trust youtubers. 1:24 you gave Sony Cinema Gamut color Space but for the Canon Rec 709, why? Canon has Rec 2020 and Cinema Gamut. Why limit the Canon to a limited color space? Completely Biased
Absolutely agree with you and that’s why being a canon user having the R5 bought the Sony a7IV over the original R6, lens selection and Specs including 32 megapixels for wildlife photography. It would be a tougher decision today with the R6 Mark II as I love the ergonomics of Canon but would still buy the Sony for weddings with the Tamron 35-150! 😊
The Tamron 35-150 is the main reason I’m keeping the Sony. Though I’m tempted to go with Canon for Autofocus, nicer grip for me, better colors and I’d probably go with a 28-70 F2
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nice review.... I always find it interesting nobody mentions false color for exposure on the R6 mii. Love this feature. for me much better than zebra's. the mini HDMi is a big downer for sure. Noise cleans up well but not an issue for me. (I shoot weddings/commercial). wide angle IBIS with wobble is really poor with canon. End of the day.... both units really rock. especial if paired with an atomos ninja.
dont waste my time with all the little clips of quips and stuff just do the comparison
I have the R6 Mark II and have to say the noise in video for CLOG-3 is extremely frustrating. I am glad to see it here because I thought maybe it was me. I sold the A7IV in favor of the R6 Mark II for sports photo purposes and that is where I personally feel the R6 II wins out, that and the rolling shutter performance is much better on the R6 Mark II.. With that said if I could go back in time, I would likely keep the A7IV as I feel like it is the better overall hybrid camera for someone who leans more on the video side.
As a nikon user, between those two i would easy pick the canon.
As an editor myself who loves adding stupid visual memes: I want to give a wholehearted tip of my fedora to y'all's editor for the "4k video capturing tool" joke @ 2:14 🔥
Thank you lol! Malachi edited this one!
Thank you kind sir :)
they are not shooting max. r6mk2 is 6k raw! and yes the r6 has base iso at 800 and 3200. but its not the best at noise or dynamic range. its the fastest in that price range though
Nice one thanks! Just one question, why Clog-3 with BT709 instead of cinema gamut on the Canon?
Cause I’m a dumb dumb
I'm waiting for the Sony A7X
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My big issue with Canon is no 3rd party support for Lenses, Sigma as of lately is killing with quality and price. For example I have a 50mm f 1.2 Sigma for $1389 the canon option is $2099. It 700 on just one lens.
I think you meant to say, "Is Sony ever going to create a camera that can contend with Canon?"
You could say that! To each their own 😄
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Maybe Sony has noise reduction enabled. And by canon it was off?
I hope that eventually the a7V will solve all of the issues. It will literally be the perfect hybrid camera
But which one is better for professional photographers (specifically weddings and portraits?)
I mean it depends what kind of photography you're going to do. If you're gonna do that weird thing where you suck the image dry and then add blue and orange tint to everything. Sony will get you there quicker.
Great video, thanks! Would love to see a series on the best EF adapted glass for RF. I shoot on an A7iv currently but that was due to 20mp on the R6 not cutting it for me... and the lens selection cost-to-performance ration. Such outstanding affordable or top notch GM used offerings out there. Canon truly is shooting themselves in the hot-shoe by closing their RF mount to 3rd Party. I'd be back on Canon if the lens landscape was different. I also thoroughly enjoy how customizable Sony's bodies are. There are far more customization options/buttons on the Sony System... but really miss being able to use the top 1/3rd of the rear screen as a joystick (RP)! Thanks again, balanced review!
Did you make this comparison using a DSLR lens for Canon with the adaptor or with a RF lens?
DSLR lens, that's the EF 24-70/2.8 Mark II
For me owning a lots of EF lenses,, i went for the Canon since i can adapt the lenses..I have no regrets.
@ceasarmercado6759I use EF lenses on Sony bodies with no issues with the Mc-11 adapter. I use them on the r6 as well no difference so far.
I own the Canon R6. Awesome camera with incredible auto focus, good low light, great color straight out of camera, and easy to use. Cons, and there are a few, 20 mp, micro hdmi, overheating ( can be managed ), only one movie mode and can't save more than one. etc., etc., etc....
I own with no regrets. It has done whatever I push it to do...
Stillllll.....
R6 ii...hmmm, or upgrade to R5, hmmmmm.....
As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying....
💪 Thanks for watching!
I wrestled with the idea of R5 or R6 mk II (I already had an R6), and I ended up getting the R6 MK II. I love having the original R6 and R6 MK II. We need more firmware updates though
bad dr on both canon
when u watch a video that complain about canon and its hdmi in the begining, u already know the result of the video
Did you see the conclusion?
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To be fair, pretty much every reviewer does this
@@jackdubs25 u do know sony paid lots of youtubers to say that right haha
Three dealerbreakers on sony iv ....4k 60 crop bad rolling shutter and sony is electronics company portfolio if you use to that digital fake look than canon optical natural color science look. Canon is best photo while sony best 4k 30 or less already easy edit digital video...con is all sony lenses plus third party pointless if 4k60 crop.
I've shot as high as ISO 10,000 and it was CLEANNNN. Don't know how you're getting noise on ISO 800
Lense linup, especially from 3rd party manufactures is a main topic when selecting camera
Great video. Just got my MKii
Just the excessive noise in the r6 is enough for me to go with the Sony. Because how often are you gonna Pan your camera like crazy to see a rolling shutter?
wym, do you mean the sony has 33mp when recording 4k? ive never heard that
A point for color science is bogus lol
So which do you prefer: eos 6d mii or nikon z8?
gimmie that autofocus
Great video ! Thank you! Are this 2 cameras limited to 30 mon video recording ? What about the over heating ? Thank you
You probably figured this out by now lol but they're both unlimited regarding video time. I saw another video saying they filmed for almost 4 hours on R6 Mark II and it didn't overheat. I use the A7IV for real estate photos and videos, so it's not on for that long at a time, but I never experienced overheating.
so you telling me that you need adapter to use older canon lenses on canon camera -_-'
Does the 800/3200 ISO "dual native ISO" only apply to video or photo too?
Thanks for creating the video! I'm not a fan of Micro HDMI but calling it cruddy makes it sound like it is non functional. The truth is... The port is just less robust. The sharpness test is neither here nor there because the A7iv is sharper that some of the best cinema cameras out there. (Less digital sharpness is usually more desired for a filmic look)
Agreed. The Sonys tend to have a very "video" oversharpened look to them that I don't like. Canon Clog by default has a lower sharpness which can be increased in the settings if you want that.
Thanks for watching!
LMAOOO you tried 😂
Canon >>
Thankyou for this in-depth comparison
You had an 'album player' huh?!?
You have to try stability with the r lens not ef ,its a lot better
What camera and lens was the talking head version of this video filmed on?
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Thank you!
Thank you, it was very interesting!
R6ii video autofocus is really bad, don't sugarcoat it
Great video, thanks for your input!
Thanks for watching!
What about Over heating issues on both-
My co worker recently lost footage on her Sony due to overheating and shutting down
Nobody is talking on youtube about sony minuses !
So how would 24 frames be cinema???? A Cinema camera doesn’t need photo. Pick one or the other. Facts. Anything less than 59.98 frames is NOT Cinema.
Cinema has basically always been shot and played back at 24fps for about a century…
The realist know that 540fps is the only acceptable cinematic quality
@@VlogCity 😩 noted 🙇🏻♂️
I’m very happy as a Sony shooter fully invested in the system but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have Canon envy! Hard to go wrong with either tool for being creative.
My conclusion is that reviews are not 100% reliable. Most leans toward Sony and since most of these products are so expensive you rarely get an apples to apples comparison. Someone here mentioned the EF lens used in the video for the R6 mk2 does not work with the IBIS. The Canon enthusiast on you tube note that there in fact a real weakness with wobble but its only with 24mm and under. Its possible what we saw in this review regarding the wobble was due to lens incompatibility. As expensive as they are, I recommend to go with RF lenses if you go Canon. I ended up with the R6 mk 2 myself because of the recent discounts. I was able to get it for $2299 USD with the 24-105 STM. The A7 IV was discounted for the same but only the body.
I was hoping canon would win but he convinced me to go with Sony 😭
CANON has better lens lineup if you count their EF lenses and third party EF plus the new RF lenses.