Canon R6 Mkii - Final Review after 2 Months
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Is the Canon EOS R6 Mkii worth it for video shooters?
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Great video! I actually loved the inclusion of the comical clips. Makes the whole thing buzz along really well. Well done! thanks man!
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This guy really spend so much time on editing this video. Funny interesting, I love it!
Yoooooo keep making vids like this with the memes. this is only video about cams where I didn’t skip to the info. I watched this video full and enjoyed ittttt
One cannot “film” in a filmless camera. That’s like saying, “I’m going to film with my DSLR,” when the camera is mirrorless.
Sorry to not give the greatest of reviews to this video, but I felt like I was watching a cartoon with all the animation, cartoon cuts, and crazy sound bites. Would have otherwise been a good review. I actually dropped out by around 8+ mins. Had the review been straight, I think I might have enjoyed the content.
Thanks for this review! I just got an R6 MKII for Christmas.
if you expose correctly in clog3 you'll get similar or better results than standard profile. your sample video wasn't 2 stops overexposed (seems more like 1+ stops under exposed...) , you probably tried not to clip highlights (light bulbs) instead of adding more light over your subject. you can use the zebra or false color for exposing correctly (in that scene you'll probably clip those highlights)
He used terrible lighting and blames the camera 😂
Exactly. +1.7 EV for CLog3 is best (without clipping). Also, you CAN use False Colours with Clog; he said you cannot LOL. You just have to disable view assist.
Great review. I agree with you. But I dislike the R5C for its bad battery life. Do you think the R5 mark ii will bring the solution?
Damn this was a tough video to watch. Editing a bunch of random clips in to the video for jokes etc. It's so cliché by this point=it's a stock way of editing by now across UA-cam. You have good info in the video, you didn't need to dumb it down.
I was debating heavily between this and the R5. Went with the R5 ultimately but this camera appears to be a beast still!
I have an R6 and i want to buy a second body. Should i get the R5 or the R6II?
@@M4TR1X what’s the main use case for it?
Why not use in HDRPQ? The noise is way better than log3 and you get 10 bit color and better dynamic range than standard or neutral profile. Then in davinci turn it into rec709 and you’re all set. Looks as good as log in my opinion for dynamic range and heaps better for noise.
100% agree. HDR PQ captures more range similar to what clog1 could do without the noise. It’s the same standard profile look as shooting standard but you get more dynamic range and rec2020 colors which means a much broader range of colors than just rec709 can capture. It has to be converted properly in post but even in FCP using the HDR Tools I find it very easy to roll off those extra stops into the rec709 curve. It beats the pants off just shooting a standard profile. Plus I have two XDR displays and two HDR TVs so it’s nice seeing normal looking HDR video. HDR is the future.
It’s not a flat look and I realize some will not like that but it’s the way to go if one wants clean and the extra range of the camera.
Can you get 4K60 with HDRPQ?
yes@@77dris
You CAN use false colors while using clog3. You need to switch off "view assist" under log.
It’s hard for camera people to refer to recording as recording and not filming.
I saw a solution to the micro HDMI in another video. Small Rig makes an accessory for its cage to hold the HDMI plug in place and provide strain relief. But note the R6 cage does not fit the R6mkII which has a larger viewfinder bump.
I’ve been waiting for a camera with the R6mkII features / price before making the switch from my 50D to mirrorless. Demand must be high because they are out of stock until the end of the month at B&H and other dealers.
You can use false color when you use clog 3. You must Off view assist ;)
Why don’t they specify that in the error code? It just says “you can’t use false color because of canon log3.” They need to clarify that better.
@@Soundstripe Хмм давайте вспомним Sony и ее ужасное меню и настройки, которые иногда взаимосвязаны и это нигде не указывается. Люди находят ответ на вопрос в ютубе, даже не в инструкции Sony
This is true.
Incorrect... it says you cannot because of "Canon Log Settings"... ie one of your Log settings is inhibiting False Colour, ie, View Assist.
Yes they should just say "disable View Assist" but technically the way it is stated is also correct. @@Soundstripe
Do you mind telling me what EF lens adapter you used?
I have the R3 and R6 and I dont even use Canons conversion LUT because it brought in a lot of a noise and the colors were pretty rough for some reason, instead, I use the literal first built in LUT on adobe premiere which is meant for an Alexa and it looks great with way less noise. Weird but works great!
I'm starting to think the dynamic range of canon video cameras is just on the low side (aside from dgo sensors and the r5c). If you look at the C200 on cined it has the same dynamic range as the R6 and r5. Even though one has clog 2. You can transform into clog2 using cinematch for easier grading but I think adding it wouldn't increase dynamic range. On the other hand it's enough range for me. I also think there is less in-camera noise reduction than all the other brands which produces a nicer look.
hello the image of the bike it is done in 60 sec image or 25 sec image, and I saw that it heats up in 60 i from 40 min, but if when it overheats I put it in 25 i sec is what I can continue filming right away?
THANKS
Thanks for this great review! I use now one R6 and I wanna buy a second one for video + photography, I do weddings.
Should I upgrade? Today R6 cost in my country 1730$ and r6 ii 2600$ plus taxes.
Is it worth the extra 870$ ???
Till now on weedings I never had problems with heating because I don’t record never more than 15-20min in once.
I use a back up camera 5d iv for video.
Should I upgrade?
Thanks 🙏
Which camera you would choose then for professional cinematography if you are poor professional with budget of max 3k? If I hate the shadow noise?
man i just stumbled upon this video and omg XD i love how this was edited 😂😂😂😂
R6ii or S5ii for video…given the crop in 4k60 and AF issues at higher frame rates with S5ii. Which would you choose?
S5 ii
So I was thinking about choosing between canon r6 mark2 canon r8 and canon r7
I do videography, I can low-key invest in one of them cameras with my budget, I just don’t know which one to invest in honestly, I shoot a lot of sports video and portrait “hybrid shooter” I would love the extra reach on the r7, the r8 is $1000 less then r6 mark 2 with low key the same future, and the r6 mark 2 check off all the boxes I need in a camera + plus I can keep growing with that camera in the next few years inshalla but at the cost of $2500, I’m really going back and forth at this point what’s your opinion?
Thank you for the video. I just got my R6 mk 2 a couple of weeks ago; however, I am able to use false color while shooting in Clog 3. Maybe it was an update. I don't know....
The "view assist" option under the log settings needs to be off (which it is by default). The reviewer must have switched it on.
i own the r6 mark ii and it is really surprisingly good with ipb but come on canon, fuji is introducing prores 422xq to the xhs and at the same time canon is removing all-i from the r6mark ii, it is impossible to edit, you have to transcode it to prores or use proxy. I own an iMacPro and still you cant edit footage in davinci. frustrating.
Nice one.I only shoot stills.I hear its better in autofocus than R5 ? Will this do for weddings, events, and editorial?or does one get the 4 year old R5 ?I dont do large prints.Your thoughts?R5 of the R6 Mark 2? Thank you.
If u only want to discuss only the video side of this camera? U should just review the cinema line only 😌 its not built for cinematographers, so its useless to complain about the microhdmi, wobble of ibis etc 😌 cause canon will tell u go get the cinema camera, this is focus on photography the video is just a bonus
Video hasn't been "just a bonus" since the 5DII. Canon markets the camera's video capabilities just as much as, if not more than the photo capabilities. So it's fair to judge it on video as much as photo.
And this channel is video-oriented so of course they're going to concentrate on the video aspects.
@@aldolega yes it is… the point is that the 5d ii doesnt have log, also some of the R system camera dont offer c log 2 that explains canon is trying ti differentiate real camera from the cinema line with a ‘c’ in its title
@@mbismbismb at least half of Canon's marketing for this camera is about its video capabilities. If Canon is saying "Hey check out the excellent video on this hybrid photo/video camera, you should buy it if you want to shoot video", I think it's fair to judge the camera's video, especially in the context of competing cameras being better in some areas.
99% of all video ever shot was not done by cinematographers, or even high-end videographers, who are shopping for cameras well north of this price point.
Not sure what the 5Dii not having log fifteen years ago has to do with anything today. I couldn't post this message with my cell phone fifteen years ago, yet I expect the next phone I buy to be able to.
For video only is the Canon R6 Mark II is better than Panasonic GH6?
Bought it. It's great but agreed on the Clog3. It is pretty noisy. And IBIS is great as long as you shoot wider than 24mm. Which isn't an excise. Canon needs to figure it out. Also, their RF lenses are very loud (compared to silent GM lenses) when focusing btw. Something to take note of if recording video in quiet environments. I did a video on it. Overall, very solid hybrid camera that could be a lot better if Canon would tweak the software.
For video get the s5ii it’s great. Af is amazing after the latest firmware.
The major downside is the loss of reach vs the r7, and the megapixel count, but the r6 has much better autofocus.
Also a question. Is the noisy video performance here similar to the r7?
Just wanted to check with you guys, I see a lot of green/red noise on my r6mk2 especially in dark areas, even in iso800. But you do not need to pixel peep, just looking at the screen you see it. Did you have the same experience? It is actually really bad
You need to expose properly... ie, about +1.7 EV for video.
For photos, even ISO 12800 on this cam is clean... better than the A7IV or S5 II in my opinion.
@@77dris for photos it is really amazing, i get better results now in video with overexposing :)
Man I haven't seen any videos with you in a moon or two
where the hell did you get that coffee cup?
Can I use the EF-S lenses for filming withe the R6 m2 in 4K?
Yes! You will need an EF-RF adapter and you'll probably have to apply the in-camera 1.6x crop since it's a crop lens but you can
2:41 QUESTION: do you mean it has noise in the sensor or noise in the clog algorithm, because you mention both here, but it sounds like you really mean just the algorithm????
At this part in the video you are making your criticism about the noise - especially using cLog3. Recommended shooting in a NEUTRAL profile for video. NOT CLOG wow.
Unless you have rf glass.... Go with Lumix s5ii
If Canon had opened it up to third party lenses this would probably be my choice. But as Jared Polin says glass, glass, glass. And I’m not rich.
100%
I agree it’s about glass but I have also been around long enough to know 3rd party lenses don’t always work as well with the electronic controls. I don’t see the point investing in a body that has a certain stabilization and AF performance and then use a 3rd party lens that may not communicate as well to do those things. Tamron and Sigma are much better than they used to be but may still not perform as fast as Canon lenses. Plus there is the firmware updates. Being at the mercy of a 3rd party deciding if they will bother updating their firmware can be frustrating.
Besides because of the EF lens support you do have a really wide range of 3rd party lens support. Myself and many others do use 3rd party lenses. I use Tamron 24-70 G2 f2.8 and 70-200 G2 f2.8 on my R6 and they work very well. Plus if you are on a budget going the EF will likely save you more right now thanks to the growing used market for good EF lenses. It is simply not true that there are no 3rd party options for the R6.
The 3rd party lenses Canon has sued were illegally reverse engineering the lens mount and stealing code Canon wrote to make those electronic features work. Sigma and Tamron have always written their own code which is why the performance used to be sometimes spotty. The new lens markers out there were cutting corners and trying to not have to write their own code for support. Ironically they could just make EF versions of their lenses to sell to Canon uses. EF is still used on many cinema cameras and not a dead lens mount yet.
Canon ef glass is amazing and better value than 3rd party. You will not get sigma and tamron to make better glass. Not even in the future. New lens releases only get worse over time. I know this as a Leica and Nikon owner, the best glass is made according to material, tolerances and quality control. All these things get screwed up by third parties
@@18yearsoldnot Sony owner know there are some excellent more affordable choices from those manufacturers.
@@18yearsoldnot try Sigma ART line or Tamron 35mm SP 1.4, a stelar lens and we talk later, ok? :)
False... You can ABSOLUTELY use False Colours with Log.
You just cannot use it with the view assist enabled.
(Btw, I shoot ISO 6400 Clog3 videos that are silky smooth and clean all the time with the R6 II. While Clog3 can be noisy if not exposed correctly, it's actually good when you do it right. Always expose about 1.7 EV with Clog 3).
Too fast, pause for breath please, it gets tiring after 5 minutes.
What rf lens u are using?
Canon 24-70 mm F2.8 II
i believe the clog issue is becuase that scene was not well lit
your the first i am hearing saying don't shoot c-log
Check out Stalman’s latest videos… look at Jordan Drakes most recent tweet.
Clog3 does have a large noise floor meaning more visible noise in the shadows. It’s because of how clog3 has a middle gray of 34.3 IRE and maps the stops to protect the highs. Other log formats are around 42 IRE meaning more values under to retain shadow detail. ISO 800 clog3 is like ISO 800 on the Blackmagic Design Pocket cameras. A lot of stops above middle gray to capture highlight detail but the shadows have less stops resulting in more noise. This mode is used on the Pockets to capture more highlight detail. Same is true on the R6. It captures a lot of highlight detail with clog3 but the shadows suffer a bit. Shooting two stops over is essentially remapping the stops like shooting ISO 200 on the Pocket cameras. You now gain two more stops in the shadows but sacrifice two stops above middle gray and clip the highs sooner.
Clog3 is about flexibility. It’s not a one size fits all log format just like raw on the Pockets is not a one size fits all ISO solution for exposure. You decide what values are more important for each shot. Post noise reduction does wonders as well. It takes time to render but the way Canon treats clog3 is if you remove the noise you get a lot more out of the sensors while still getting great highlight detail and range. It’s kind of frustrating compared to other cameras that have a clean log format and better range but all these cameras have trade offs. I generally love the. Anon look and colors and willing to work with the noise vs having to fart around with color in post. I also shoot over when needed depending on the values in the scene I’m capturing. Knowing a few of these rules completely changes the outlook of using clog3.
With that said I would love to see Canon create better dynamic range sensors. The sensor is not the problem. Photos do have 14bit processing and much larger range. The problem is video has to drop to 10bit processing while other cinema cameras may use 12bit processing for video. The sensors don’t read out fast enough for 14bits or 12bits. The same happens with electronic shutter for photos. The bit depth used in the processing of the sensor data drops from 14bit to 12bit and the shadows have a lot more noise. Canon preferred to lower rolling shutter and manage 4k60p but drop the video bit depth to 10bit which doesn’t help that noise floor either. The same is true on the R5 and R5c. 10bit video processing. The crop modes are able to bump back up to 12bit processing but unfortunately nobody has ever bothered to measure the dynamic range of the crop modes. Even if it’s cleaner however clog3 is mapped to benefit the highs vs the lows. It puts more of its stops above middle gray so it can capture a ton of highlight detail.
Dude Clog3 has way more dynamic range and is in 10 bit. Regular profiles are 8 bit. When I switched to cinegamet in Clog3 it made the noise go away. I have the R5 and 2 Sony A7SIII's. I reach for the R5 everytime over Sony. My opinion the R5 is the best hybrid camera out there.
i also shoot with canon but I always wanted to use Sony because everyone is saying it is better with noise and does not have this canon red/green noise pattern
Potential Dealbreaker Warning !!!!
R6 MKII - Card Recording not supported with clean HDMI out :(
Canon has done it again.
removed a basic feature that existed for 15 years since in the 5D MKIII that (with MagicLantern) that seems to be still the only Canon camera that can Livestream and Record internally (as backup) a long video session like the full day conference that im streaming at the moment without stopping every 29:59.
i havnt checked the R7 R10 R50 R3 R8 yet, but i have the feeling that this is the case on most if not all new - continuously recording canon hybrid cameras.
i am completely bewildered by this move and very dissapointed to say the least. I am giving up on the hope for a proper all rounder from canon at this point. just don't trust them anymore.
im also quite surprised that nowhere is this mentioned in all the many reviews praising this camera. maybe no one streams multicam with Canon cameras, but if you are - be aware.
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How do you rate this cam compared to Fuji X-H2 / XT-5
If you’re a photographer, the canon may be a better option. For video I’d go with a Fuji over this
@@Soundstripe Thanks . I have X-H2 already , Its amazing for both photos and Videos. I am looking for XT-5 or Canon R6 II as my B Cam.
@@neethuandthomasphotography I am just curious, if you have the X-H2 why not the X-H2s as your Bcam?
@@Soundstripe Hi Buddy I'm one of the Fujifilm Ambassadors from India. I'm getting XT-5 as B cam.
Dude how many channels do you have lol 😂
I know , I can't remember his older ones
I stand corrected. You are right. You can't
Man thank you for this video. I was shooting CLOG 3 and getting horrible results and couldn’t explain it. Now that you pointed it out. I did a quick comparison in low light and my mind was blown away when using the neutral picture profile. THANK YOU! Canon needs to figure its life out. At this point it should be called Toy Log 3.
camera is great. If you cut the comic nonsense it might be more watchable. But good luck to you😊
He said it was a great camera, the main issue he stated was the wobble. If anything you’re the one tripping man
Good camera, not exceptional in anything.
If you are more interested in photography, there are better solutions (R7, or Sony A7iv, bigger sensors). If you're more interested in video, it's the worst choice. 8bit in "nature" profile, not all intra, the worst log (clog3) in the industry, etc. Due to the exclusion of third parties, Canon is probably the worst choice, it is also the most expensive of the competing cameras. ..
What would you reccomend as a hybrid?
Someone’s cosy with Sony. It’s getting so ridiculous across the UA-camrs now it’s beyond obvious. Marketing overdrive. Lol.
You're the first one that complains about stabilization with Canon, not to mention the absolutely ridiculous noise issue that you bring. Most reviewers agree that if there is a camera out there that can beat the A7S3 in low light that would be this camera. You just don't know what you're doing or talking about . Pass
Tyler Stalman, in his last few videos, complains about these issues as well as Jordan Drake from DPReviewTV, recently on his twitter complained as well. These issues are widely known and talked about within the camera review community.
Overly edited 😢
I have R6 MkIl and 5D Mk4 . I m not so sure that R6 is better. I have the feeling that 5D is a professional camera, while R6 is like for newcomers . Video on the other hand is much better with R6.
This video made me tired. Couldn’t watch till the end. Too much distractions. Overkill.
Cannot watch this video because of all the ”funny” clips that constantly ruins the actual content.
Noted
Same.
@@connormccaskill but, I also want to say that actual content (as long as I watched) was good and production nice. So I subscribed to support your channel, and will give you another chance in the future - after all, there are never enough good camera channels.
@@alexmaccape8411 Thank you for the kindness. Just out here trying to make lots and lots of videos.
Don’t listen to this guy
EOS R3 is not Canon’s flagship camera. EOS R1 is coming out… most likely with DIGIC XI processor.
I’m looking at buying my first full frame camera. My only camera I’ve had the past 5 years is my iPhone 10. I’ve watched tons of UA-cam videos/reviews and the more I watch the more confused I am. So I’m torn between Sony A7 siii or iv, Lumix S5ii, or Canon R something. Of course, I want to be able to take awesome videos, photos, and make vlogs. Given my total lack of experience, a lot of what I hear is hard to translate into what’s important and what I’ll be missing without even knowing I’m missing it. Can someone please simplify all of this for me?
Thanks for this great review! I use now one R6 and I wanna buy a second one for video + photography, I do weddings.
Should I upgrade? Today R6 cost in my country
1730$ and r6 i 2600$ plus taxes.
Is it worth the extra 870$ ???
Till now on weedings I never had problems with heating because I don't record never more than
15-20min in once.
I use a back up camera 5d iv for video.
Should I upgrade?
Thanks🙏