4K TV Shoppers! 4 Rules for When to Buy, How Much & What’s Good
Вставка
- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Top 4 Rules when shopping 4K TVs! NOTE on 1/5/21 SONY ended X900H VRR plans bit.ly/2XsT9U1 [PureVPN's Cyber Monday 88% Off Special: bit.ly/stopthefomo] Timestamps at bottom.
====
FOMO’S TV BUYING Chart bit.ly/3ev7eX6
FOMO's TV Buying Video • 2020 TV Buyer Guide: C...
===
GAMING TVs For PS5
Hisense H9G bit.ly/3nL6eTy
TCL 6 R635 amzn.to/2URBUdN or
Best Overall Gaming TV (Xbox or PC)
OLED LG CX amzn.to/2UWspKM
Cheaper VRR Gaming TVs
TCL 6 Series amzn.to/3olEhTM
Vizio bit.ly/3ocm1vX
====
TVs for MOVIE WATCHING:
Sony A8H OLED amzn.to/3mdbQoT
Sony X950H amzn.to/2TksXc9
Hisense H9G amzn.to/2PkjWxR
Vizio OLED bit.ly/3ocm1vX
Best Budget TVs
Samsung RU9000 bit.ly/3oiofdi
TCL 5 Series amzn.to/2FQTxX8
====
FOMO’S PC Gaming Build
GPU Gigabyte RTX 3090 bit.ly/34gNu7y
Motherboard MSI X570 Unify amzn.to/2HePQeN
CPU AMD 3900X amzn.to/3kkZhHB
Storage SP Gen4 1TB bit.ly/2TDxnee
SP Gen3 is fine too! amzn.to/3ecpQwm
860 EVO 1TB amzn.to/3knhdRS
Case Lian Li O11 Air amzn.to/3m9UqJP
Fans Arctic P12, P14 amzn.to/3dTw44b
Fan filter: Silverstone amzn.to/34Iq8rK
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-CH14S amzn.to/31uYv3D
Power Supply EVGA T2 850w amzn.to/34mOOpL
=================
About Affiliate Links: #CommissionsEarned all of my Amazon & Best Buy links in this video description are affiliate links which means at no extra charge to you, I will make a small commission if you click on them and make a qualifying purchase. Equipment and Materials used for this review can be purchased on Amazon via the links above. All sponsorships are fully disclosed in this video description as well as video content. We make every effort to back up our conclusions and reviews with with demonstrations that clearly show the reasoning behind our opinions.
===
LICENSED MUSIC listed in order of appearance. We use Artlist for royalty free music: bit.ly/2Tdc4AF
Vicious by Essentials
Beautiful Whispers by Rhythm in You
Eclipse by Out of Flux
===
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro to the 4 Rules
2:04 Rule #1: HDMI 2.1 ?
5:09 Rule #2: OLED or QLED or miniLED
10:30 Rule #3: Price Points of Diminishing Return
17:18 Rule #4: When to Buy Which Brand - Наука та технологія
What confuses you when TV shopping?
[PureVPN's Cyber Monday Special: bit.ly/stopthefomo]
0:00 4 Rules of TV Buying
2:04 Rule #1: HDMI 2.1
5:09 Rule #2: OLED or QLED or miniLED
10:30 Rule #3: Price Points of Diminishing Return
17:18 Rule #4: When to Buy Which Brand
THANK YOU!! I TOOK THE DIVE AND GOT A SAMSUNG 7 SERIES 65 INCH AND AM VERY SATISFIED!!
Just bought a samsung Q95T
Can it do 4k@120fps with HDR ?
Or just 4k@120fps ?
Just got a 65" C9 bacc in July. Its a beast. I return a Q80R after not being impressed and went OLED. Best decision ever. My PS5 looks like art in motion on it.😂🤣
I do get waaaay better color on my ps5 and oled than i was prior on anything! Im assuming that's from more bandwidth in hdmi 2.1 and im getting 32GBPS and HDR YUV422 while i used to only get YUV420 on 2.0 and PS4 Pro. Make sense?
Thank you for the video.
Now what about the *4 Rules in buying a true 4K Disc Player*.
That is info I could use. Thanks again.
This man can teach anything. Super smart. Best tv UA-camr in the world. Period. No doubts. Certified genius. Master G.
Honestly, it really comes down to how much do you want to spend
Thanks for the explaining the Cost considerations of different brands of TVs; You're my favorite source for TV information. So many considerations when getting a new TV, and you clear them up.
He speaks with detail and knowledge. Thank you
Found you just in time before purchasing my 4K TV. Amazing points, especially the diminishing returns points. Earned my sub, I appreciate you!
Thanks for the info Stop the FOMO! Two thumbs up for you!
My guy is swagged out and dumping information in my face, I like it.
Thank you for clearing up the mystery with HDMI 2.1.
Great information, perfectly delivered, greatly appreciated.
Excellent content FOMO nice jacket 90s vibes .
Excellent presentation.
Yeah - about that marketing -I wanted to check out the Hisense before buying, but was unable to find one on display anywhere. Figured I would trust your (and other online) reviews. I am sooooo happy with my new Q9G! Thank you so much for your EXCELLENT detailed videos. I'm astonished by how much I have learned from your channel.
Great video of you, as usual.
Huge video! Thank you!
Kudos for the knowledge👍
Thanks for giving us the 4 rules! Wonderful guidance and insights. You make your points clearly and concisely. We went with the Samsung Q90T 4K QLED instead of the LG CX 4K OLED because of the glare issue. We really noticed the glare reflecting of off the LG at Best Buy. We have sunlight coming through our front door and then through the glass in our folding doors leading into the TV room. We watch TV quite a lot during daylight hours. Until we considered the glare issue, we were definitely going with a 55" - LG CX 4K OLED. However, for our particular environment, we thought that the Samsung was the best choice for us.
Great info...subscribed !
Keep it up! Nice work.
Good / Valuable to know on HDMI 2.1, 2.o and OLED vs LCD Thanks FOMO
Thank you Mr. FOMO! I've been watching your videos for the last 6-8 months in preparation for my tv purchase. You do an awesome job explaining the technology from lots of angles. Your passion is appreciated. Thank you for sharing!....I went with vizio oled 🤩 📺
Same. I just assembled and calibrated my Vizio H1 this morning then set up a relative's Q90T QLED this evening. The 2.1 features on the Vizio are still a work in progress, but the standard home theater and 4k/ HDR functionality are spectacular, probably a bit underrated actually. It was a steal at $899.
I agree. I never dreamed I could have an oled for under 1000. How was the q90t?
@@kriscantrell2393 The Q90T has vibrant highlights and very solid detail. I prefer the look of OLEDs overall, but the Samsung flagship is a beautiful TV. Not having Dolby Vision and costing as much or more than OLEDs are my main issues with QLEDs. No worries with burn-in and exceptional brightness are great advantages, though.
@@AKSBSU
I sent my Q90t back to Amazon, I figured I could find a cheaper LCD with comparable picture.
Nice Short and on point! I only follow Rtings and Stop The Fomo for TV guide. These 2 are the best imo. The rest of youtube reviews are just waste of time.
Great advice! 😎😘
I love your videos! I dont rely anymore on the advice of the sales guys in the tech shops when it comes to TV.
Please make some videos about soundbars, subwoofers & its settings.
I am so much more educated about TVs thanks to this channel. I hope someday to have enough money to buy one :)
I bought Q70t for $898 CAD with month payments from Amazon. I've still rocking my TV from 2007, this it will get me in 4k and I'll use it for a year or two, then upgrade when most TVs are in a great place for the new consoles/PC.
My Mother is still using a 1080p TV, so I'll give her the Q70T whenever I get my next 10 year TV.
Really like your videos, it has a lot of info and straight to the matter. I Got a Q80T 65" because we don't have a Q90T Available from Samsung where I live, and i was afraid to purchase an OLED, even though they cost the same here. Cheers from Brazil!
I just got my hisense H9G 2 days back, before selling off my Samsung UHD 4k tv, I made several dark n bright room and also black level comparison, hisense just nailed it in every aspect, no issue in dimming to the darkest spot, no blooming issue, no red ghosting .. HDR10 just blew my mind... Hisense is awesome ... :)
This is a very quality video
duuuuuude, you're such a Pimp! I love your channel.
Love your content…. Maybe think of adding size information along with pricing would be excellent…
That's what we ended up doing. Waiting till Black Friday for a Sony XBR 75X800H and got a great discount on it. But, it wasn't only timing. It just so happened we decided to give an older 50inch Samsung Plasma TV in our bedroom to my Sister in law and replace it with our current 65inch Haier TV. The new Sony will go in our Family Room, this coming weekend by Geek Squad.
Ultimately you just have to do some research and see what 📺 is the best for how you are going to use the TV. I also think you should watch several reviews because more than likely you will see certain 📺 sets keep rising to the top as the best of the best. This year 📺 sets that I've noticed mentioned over and over as great 📺 are the Samsung Q80T, Q90T, Vizio OLED, PQX, Sony X900H, A8H , LG CX, HISENSE H9G if you don't mind the red Ghosting, and the TCL 2020 mini LED 6 series. These are the 📺 sets that keep coming to the forefront among top all reviewers. If you really want a TV you will be good with those sets depending on your budget. If not wait for next year.
Reaaaaaaly good, help me understand
The folly of technology. Buying TV's nowadays is now a major decision-making process what with all the features to consider LOL. Thanks for the insights!
Great show. Very helpful.
I have a XBSX so I'm looking for a 65"+ with VRR/HDR/4K@120 therefore I'll need HDMI 2.1. I'm waiting for 2021 to see what's available. Probably get an LCD since I want to avoid burn-in and from either TCL or Vizio since these features aren't going to be cheap and I'm thinking to budget < $1500.
I'm jumping in with a 65 inch X900H after a lot of consideration of various TVs. Got the Black Friday pricing of $1400 CAD. Was $100 cheaper than the 65 in H9G and only $100 more than the 65 inch TCL 6 series. Should be good enough to hold me off for the next 5 or so years until QNED starts making its way around.
Burn in on OLED happens when the screen is too bright for moving watching i turn off the power saving mode for news watching regular TV shows I turn it back on news tickers on for hrs no burn, this helps to also make the tv seem more impactful.
Fantastic!
Very Good
How about a listing and ranking of all VRR-capable TVs, regardless of HDMI types? 🧐
Your 5th rule should be table top size to the TV feet/ stand. Wife and I wanted an 80"-86" but our tabletop had a maximum length of 72". The one we purchased was the Samsung QN85Q70, it had the center stand. We didn't go OLED because our tv was in a very bright room plus Oled largest size is 77".
Anyway do you recommend buying an extended warranty for any QLED?
Just bought a 48 inch CX. It's been great.
I want it so muchh, man.
£300 more expensive than the 55 inch in the store😂... my friend purchased the 55 inch CX for £999 he wanted the 48 inch but seriously this is a joke the tv stil cost £1500 😂
I've wanted to too but its way too hard to find and way more expensive compared to the 55. Not worth it. I'm just going to wait for the C1. I need the best TV possible(for my needs) since I'm upgrading from a 1080p TV.
@@shadowsdietwice Lol you liar, ur friend bought the BX... you find the CX lower than £1200 anywhere.
@@blair5475 my friend bought it from gumtree not from store you stupid idiot call me.liar and don't know nothing about the situation
THIS is the video I've been wanting to see! Thank you!
Rule #4. Before October sales are the super bowl 🏈 sale, labor day, and July 4th in the US.
Q90T for 2000$?! I just got mine on Black Friday for 1300$....wow....good timing for me!😅
let me guess your tv isnt 75in? rather 55inch. and yes it is indeed good time for you since you're having a blast!!
Yes
Great to make the point HDMI 2.1. When will we get full featured HDMI 2.1? 2024?
Local Best Best Buy has Sony, Samsung, LG and Vizio tv on display. I've never seen Hisense and TCL.
Honestly I think 2018 and 2019 were some of the best years for 📺 sets. The Samsung QLED's from 2018 are some of the best you can get to this day. I am starting to think OLED 📺 is over hyped sometimes I think LCD displays do a great job in real world content.
You are spot on my man. Some great Samsung TVs that year 2018. Sony X900F was also a really good TV that year. LG C9 and B9 were really good TVs last year.
In Europe, best time to buy TV is spring and summer, when new models arrive and old ones have huge discounts. Then Philips, LG, Samsung and Sony TV's offer better value than Hisense and other brands.
Mate love your jacket very nice and very good content can look at philips oled on your channel thanks
I really don't understand what all the talk is about brightness..... I took the dive and picked up a Samsung 7 series 65 inch on sale with tax for $500 bucks. I was sceptacle at first. Previously had the Sony 900 65 inch that failed and cost twice as much. The Samsung did remarkably well compared and I have to say I am very satisfied with the purchase. Bright image and great in HDR, great detailed pic, acceptable motion, very good with sports and all without breaking the bank
Samsung is LCD and great for brightness as he said.
Never mind, I reached that part of the video now. Yeah I guess cheaper ones are less bright. I think he is talking about regular price not sale price though. He also said Samsung should be at least 1500 dollars like Q80T, but I bought my Q80T for 879€ lol
4 rules for buying a leather coat next
Bruv. Lol
4 rules for wearing white gloves next
This man is the definition of buy with wisdom..
Just got a 48 inch Lg Cx, coming next Monday I’m really excited !
As mostly a gamer in a fairly bright room, and of all the TVs I've looked at in reviews, it's looking like if I buy before the 2021 models come out, then the Samsung Q80T 55" and above looks the best for me. Mostly for the LFC ability. It's the only TV I've personally found in reviews that mentions it has the LFC ability. The 49" and 50" don't have it, so it needs to be 55" and above. Though I think a 50" is the best fit for my area. I'll have to measure to see if I can fit the 55".
Q80T 50" has fewer things on it than the bigger ones, so it might not have all the things you want. Check out rtings page for Q80T for details. Anyway LG CX seems to be the ultimate tv for gamers this year, although at a higher price.. I got Q80T myself, should arrive in 2-3 days. Don't expect LFC, VRR or HDR to work on it for gaming though, at least not at the same time.
Sorry somehow I completely missed the bottom part of your message. Never mind
Built it a lower cost country , another reason it cheaper some TV... But picture quality as good as Samsung , LG Qled
Wait until 11 January 2021 to see new 2021 TV range at CSE Digital
Couple of weeks away
5th rule : Don't expect your DVD's & VHS content to look as good as they did on a 'HD ready' (720p) or 'full HD' (1080p) monitor . Upscaling can only get you so far , and the cheaper the 4k tv , the likelihood of a lack of effort in this direction by the manufacturers gets greater .
But in general, it's not just the price point . It's the math behind upscaling that get's you a hit & miss look at the best of times .
It sucks that "upscaling" has only recently became a noteworthy thing , and only because ppl have started to notice that content that they previously enjoyed on their "HD-ready / Full-HD" tv sets now looks WORSE on their brand new 4k tv ... -- and sadly if the issue gets addressed by tv reviewers, it's only about how 1080p content isn't as great on a 4K .
Few if any tv reviewers treat content below 1080p as anything worth talking about, even as the majority of the TV channels on the planet have yet to switch to 1080p , let alone 4k .
This is true. However, I would like to mention that if you have a computer with a powerful enough GPU, madVR's upscaling works really well. It can make 720p look great on a 4K display.
If you have a smaller screen size though (like a 48 inch TV), then 1080p should still look alright. It just gets the larger your screen is.
But really who watches dvd's and especially VHS? LOL. I stream everything in at least 1080p if not better through the use of my android box. No longer pay nor rent dvd's.
You have amazing content, i've just got a PS5 console and have been having a serious headache to get a TV that can support 4K120 without unncessarily burning a hole in my pocket - if i could get some recommendations for the best price point without diminishing returns, i will forever be in your debt!
Edit: Makes and Models as well would be highly appreciated! Sorry to bother you.
Watching this on my PANASONIC Plasma 55VT50 which looks like OLED!
wow!!! love the in depth break down on all the TV's. Thanks for the info. Looking to get the Hisense. I am not into gaming and don't need all that hype. Thanks bro.
I agree
Glad I found your channel
I was pretty set on the Samsung Q70dt
But once I saw what you said about the black zones being wash I decided not to.
What do you think of the LG 75" Class - UN8570 Series - 4K UHD LED LCD TV
It’s on sale at Costco for $900 and basically has a 5 yr warranty.
Anything is going to be an upgrade since I’ve had the same 50” westing house lcd for 8 years.
The only real thing that bugs me about TVs is the dark scenes in shows like xfiles. I play video games maybe once a week an Xbox one and a switch so I think anything will be good for me but would like to not have black wash on the screen in dark scenes
I need a new tv with 2.1 HDMI, HDR movies, streaming from Netflix, Amazon Prime, UA-cam, and Hulu movies. Also eARC connection for a nice sound bar with satellite subwoofer included. I want to buy both the PS5, and the Xbox Series X consoles to game on.....I own the PS4 Pro right now. I own a Samsung 8000 series UHD LED TV from 2016.
I can't wait for this channel to take off and I'll be able to say I've been watching since the blackout set days. Always informative.
Just bought the Sony X950H 65 inches for our family. We are not gamers, for films and nice colors. Yes, nothing beat the Oled for best black contrast, but for $700 less i think it is a good choice.
Actually the a8h is 400 dollars less
@@representj12 not in quebec, canada ;-)
@@AlainLafleche1 or in the US.... Where is an a8h cheaper exactly? (Meant at represent)
@@SoDiezl350 it is not possible that the Oled A8H is $400 dollars cheaper than the X950H.
Just returned my LG CX! I believe that people on the internet love to validate their purchases, and LG loves to pay reviewers, just look at their MDA on their 10K. My unit crushed blacks, gamma looked awful in dolby vision, and near black shadow detail is horrendous. Buy Sony for great picture, and Samsung for great versatility.
Great. Channel
I think most of us are buying new TVs this year for PS5 and Xbox X. Don't forget about 2.1, future proofing is a good thing.
You don't need HDMI 2.1 for PS5 and Xbox X. Neither PS5 nor XBox 5 will need (or even utilize) HDMI 2.1 for gaming. And speaking about future proofing, HDMI 2.1 for gaming won't be needed for at least another five years.
@@GarethColquhoun Gaming isn't compatible for HDMI 2.1.......by the time those games actually become available.....you'll be looking at 2023 TV models.
At least that what i've found out the last few days researching this....I just finished my basement and i've been thinking i need a 2.1 TV.....seems i can save $1,000 by just getting a 4K 60hz model...and not really missing out on much of anything. Someone correct me if I'm completely wrong...thanks.
@@dusanbolek8004 You'll still need a TV with VRR for the new consoles.
@@blair5475 Sure, but that is not directly related to HDMI 2.1 despite being part of the new standard. You can have HDMI 2.0 with VRR support while quite a few HDMI 2.1 doesn't support VRR at all or might not support that particular VRR standard you need to.
6:05 You forgot to mention IPS LCD.
Certain people out there will buy the LG NanoCell thinking they're getting something great when even VA LCD offers better picture quality.
Hi Fomo! I just picked up a Sony A90J tv for use in my home theater, and I have a Sony UBP-X800M2 4K Blu-Ray player connected. This tv will be dedicated to watching 4k HDR Blu-rays exclusively. Can/should I have the BDP hooked up to one of the HDMI 2.1 ports or not?
For what it’s worth, I will not be using the A90J for gaming, as I have another tv dedicated for that.
Thank you. Quick question, I have a bright living room and during the day mostly my son watches youtube and Disney plus. At night my wife and I watch Netflix and Hulu. What would be a good TV you would recommend between $800 - $1400? We currently have the Samsung 55’ curve that is going into another room and now we need a new living room tv
The HDMI 2.1 arguement is a bit like someone wanting a powerful car...he has the choice of a car with a top speed of 120 mph or a car with a top speed of 160mph. Of course HDMI2.1 is better and sexy....but in the real world HDMI2.0 is good enough for several years and will be great on next gen consoles.
Exactly. And like the car scenario, you are paying extra for something you almost will never use. Developers like to always push things to the limit on consoles, where by the end of the generation, most games are struggling to stay above 30FPS and/or are being secretly upscaled. I feel like the PS5 and XBX owners obsessed with HDMI 2.1 are going to end up with a tiny handful of 4K/120hz options for this generation.
While I agree with this assessment, for the price range I wanted to stay in, the Sony X900H was priced in that same range as the H9G and TCL 6 series this black friday, so it really made sense to go with the Sony. Even if the HDMI 2.1 option goes nowhere, I still have a TV with eARC for my future purchase of a nice soundbar system (just ARC on H9G) and a TV that generally has the more reliable picture performance and feel good feeling of support from the company (as opposed to the panel lottery of TCL). Ultimately, whatever I bought this year was always going to be a stopgap measure for whatever will be available in another 5-6 years' time, so as such I tried to keep my budget reasonable while still getting something nice. Who knows, if I find it good enough, I may even hold off longer before my next purchase.
@@Gofr5 I went with the X900H too, mostly for the same reasons (very good price/performance ratio, Sony does better at the things I care most about, and especially since I was buying online, less chance of an after-purchase hassle due to a poor panel with the TCL). I think the criticism is more towards those who are obsessing over HDMI 2.1 being the only major factor, especially on gaming forums.
these are great Rules I kind of regret not doing my homework before buying my new tv I need to look back at these next time I buy a new tv I'm a gamer so I need HDMI 2.1
Unless you have a 3080. No you don't
Not doing a research before purchasing something is very poor of you.
@@blair5475 no shit really? like I didn't already know that
Lg nanocell 0850 65 or lg 70t
I'm not sure if I want to finally upgrade to a hisense h9g for my new ps5 from a Panasonic vt60? Sure it's alot more modern, 4k, hdr, but could I live with the comprises? Off angle viewing, soap opera effect, red blur effect and to never ever get 4k 120hz. Hopefully some of that will be corrected next year and possibly even a price drop since oleds price coming down and introduction of mini led or nano led
what about during the superbowl sales?
So we need hdmi that support earc to enjoy the functions of earc?
Jeez. I was 10 ads on this one vid.
I'm caught up in the fomo. Pretty sure anything I get now will be great compared to my 720p plasma.
I have been using a 42" 720 LG plasma untill this past Friday.
We went with the 65" TCL 65r635.
Sure thing
Yes it's time, upgrade!
@@uzishooteruzishooter I just got the r635 yesterday but the 55 inch version. Been loving it so far with my Series X 👍
Uh, yes, yes they will.
Hi from greece! Love you channel though not all the models mentionted are available overseas.. Quick question: at the moment the samsung 55q80t is priced at €850 just €50 over the sony 55x900h. Would you recommended it over the Sony for mainly dark movie viewing? Any help appreciated!! Thanx again!
Normally prime day is in mid July, it was only in October for 2020 because of the pandemic.
What your picks for budget Vizio tv . I've been looking at the M55Q8 H1
i dont get it. when is prime day?
So when are we getting the LG CXI?
I got the Sony x950h even though I’m getting a ps5 when I can find it
great video...thx. Couple questions. I am going to buy tv, but still can't decide. I am thinking between 2 tvs
1. LG CX (55) 1440 euros
2. Samsung Q90T (1450 euros)
I plan to buy ps5 and maybe later XSX too (depends on (possible) exclusives MS games). I play/watch any time of the day, but mostly at night
and one more question please. I don't think we have (in Ireland) TCL, so probably I would have to order online from somewhere else. Would you recommend TCL (I have no idea which model since I never heard of this brand before) that would be similar equivalent to CX or Q90T ... or some TCL in around that price (1500 euro) ?
thx (to anyone who replies)
Any thoughts on the issues with OLED banding this year? My 65 " CX has it and there's a thread on AVSForum over a 500 pages now dedicated to screen uniformity and banding, with plenty of others experiencing it with this particular set too.
Thanks,
Craig
Oled and burn in does bother me becouse it bothers the manufacture by them not covering it under warranty
So I am thinking about getting a sony X900H 85" as I have a room that has a few window but do have curtains so can get it pretty darker. COSTCO has it on sale for 1999 or should I hold out to see if oled sony 77" goes on sales, is oled with an extra 1200 dollars. Would love to get your opinion.
Which tv is on the top behind you?
I just brought a 55 inch BX. It alright, only met the budget 🤷🏾♂️
Also got that tv.. to be honest it's pretty much the same as the cx while saving money
@@Neopumper666 Does it have VRR feature?
What about quality between value brands and higher brands ?
What about them? You get what you pay for.
It's that simple.
Would you recomend the Sony x900h or the Vizio P series Q9-H1?
Or is there a more affordable option out there with similar specs to the two I mentioned
You didn’t do rule 3 for oled
What’s your brand of brown leather (?) jacket?
Yeah that's fine for lcd TVs but aren't OLED prices gonna drop?
I was listening from across the room. I seriously thought he said "idiot percent off" when talking about the VPN offer. I had to listen a second time to get it.