How Close is TOO Close?

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2020
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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  3 роки тому +168

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    • @nohome5149
      @nohome5149 3 роки тому

      Can you do a video about benefits of using 2 or more graphics cards or if there are downsides?

    • @ShaggyBNE
      @ShaggyBNE 3 роки тому +3

      @adam rule So don't watch it

    • @robertfargher5154
      @robertfargher5154 3 роки тому +4

      @adam rule They made it very clear that it was a sponsored video. If that rots your crotch, don't watch it. But I enjoyed their survey of folks preferred viewing distances. It was informative, not a shill.

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn 3 роки тому

      @lopezaldo80 Set up your cooler so the pump is the lowest point on the system. It's normal to have a few small bubbles in an AIO and doing this will keep the bubbles away from the pump and they shouldn't hurt anything if they are in the radiator.

    • @techtoysandprograming9821
      @techtoysandprograming9821 3 роки тому +1

      Hey Linus , can you review the Raspbian x Nighthawk edition cause it's a Linux based os And it's a cool replica of Windows 10 made for Raspberry pi4 And you can download it from archive.org or some open sources

  • @skrauthauser
    @skrauthauser 3 роки тому +3359

    "Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion" got me good

  • @aletir6111
    @aletir6111 3 роки тому +2050

    People at the theater: "I can't wait to see the movie!"
    Taran: * punching the air *

    • @minobg79
      @minobg79 3 роки тому +142

      Taran is a proper nerd, respect. :)

    • @kashology
      @kashology 3 роки тому +19

      why does this say read more

    • @JaredVititoe
      @JaredVititoe 3 роки тому +7

      He is just amazing.

    • @gametests
      @gametests 3 роки тому +27

      It's weird how most of us living on Earth will never meet or even acknowledge each other's existence. For example, if you're reading my comment; this is probably the first and last time you'll ever see me.

    • @cranshawmccaw
      @cranshawmccaw 3 роки тому

      He should put the power glove on before doing that.

  • @qazzie5336
    @qazzie5336 3 роки тому +838

    Other LMG Employees: **this feels about right**
    Taran: NUMBERS!

    • @nemidoonam6963
      @nemidoonam6963 3 роки тому

      Light machine gun Employees?

    • @qazzie5336
      @qazzie5336 3 роки тому +4

      Nemidoonam 69 Linus Media Group (though I like your interpretation)

    • @nemidoonam6963
      @nemidoonam6963 3 роки тому

      Qazzie 05 lmao sorry man

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube 3 роки тому +530

    4:09 My apologies to Sarah Butt for what I'm sure was a miserable middle school experience.

    • @bobsmith7203
      @bobsmith7203 3 роки тому +146

      Doubtless, she was always the butt of the joke.

    • @nopers2223322
      @nopers2223322 3 роки тому +26

      I would changed my name

    • @HamuelPter
      @HamuelPter 3 роки тому +8

      Sam she must've been pushed to the back a lot :(

    • @farhansyamarif
      @farhansyamarif 3 роки тому +1

      "Experience" sorry

    • @nathangehman7018
      @nathangehman7018 3 роки тому +41

      I know what that is like. My last name is pronounced "gaymen"... At one point in Band class I almost shafted one kid with my trombone it got so bad.

  • @metaleuman
    @metaleuman 3 роки тому +380

    Neighbor: "Why are you sitting in my house?"
    Me: "Just watching my sweet new 86" TV"

    • @grn1
      @grn1 3 роки тому +9

      Saw that someone replied, it was a bot. So I thought I'd make a comment instead.

    • @curt8806
      @curt8806 3 роки тому +1

      LTT says to get Vizio instead though. They said it’s better than LG Oled colors too

    • @Arjay404
      @Arjay404 3 роки тому +10

      I see that you are using the NTSC recommendations.

    • @sebastianvangen
      @sebastianvangen 3 роки тому

      What a small house that is tho.

  • @T1G_ap
    @T1G_ap 3 роки тому +570

    2:22
    "eyeball not to scale"
    YA DONT SAY

    • @SivaKanthSharma
      @SivaKanthSharma 3 роки тому +2

      I was gonna say the exact same thing 🤣

    • @cj_singhh
      @cj_singhh 3 роки тому

      Cracked me up good

    • @Yuriko192
      @Yuriko192 3 роки тому

      Lmao, didnt even notice that haha

    • @Gellhorn
      @Gellhorn 3 роки тому +3

      this was for the American viewer

    • @yesgames174
      @yesgames174 3 роки тому

      i was going to make same post

  • @gadroful
    @gadroful 3 роки тому +143

    Taran's GF: so where are we going to sit in theater?
    Taran: "massaging his fist"

  • @martinelend5824
    @martinelend5824 3 роки тому +19

    6:13 Tarans intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion

  • @Leonsimages
    @Leonsimages 3 роки тому +1510

    LTT: "Are you sitting to close?"
    My mom: *YES.*

  • @RooonilWazlib
    @RooonilWazlib 3 роки тому +507

    Taran: Well normally I bring my protractor but the fist measurement is a good estimate in a pinch.

    • @gametests
      @gametests 3 роки тому +33

      It's weird how most of us living on Earth will never meet or even acknowledge each other's existence. For example, if you're reading my comment; this is probably the first and last time you'll ever see me.

    • @gametests
      @gametests 3 роки тому +3

      @@xXGeth270Xx i cant change my name before 90 days. till than stay home stay safe

    • @daanwilmer
      @daanwilmer 3 роки тому +5

      You know he has calibrated his fists.

    • @Simon-oy7kf
      @Simon-oy7kf 3 роки тому +2

      @@gametests I don't see you

  • @KillahMate
    @KillahMate 3 роки тому +6

    Fun fact: that 5 feet line for the screen door effect is also where you would start noticing a relevant difference between 8K and 4K video. At any of the actual distances they were talking about 8K is indistinguishable from 4K... except when you look inside your wallet.

    • @sim2er
      @sim2er 2 роки тому +2

      the perception of that is why HDR and other technologies are advertised so much. However it also isn't 100% accurate, there's a pixelworks whitepaper which said people have *at least* 50% greater visual acuity for images in motion compared to static vision tests. Interestingly this means that greater perceived image quality can be achieved with either higher resolutions or higher refresh rates. To achieve lifelike presence in VR requires both, so I hope screen tech continues to improve despite the persistent naysayers.

  • @Weneedaplague
    @Weneedaplague 3 роки тому +636

    "i always do this when im at a theater" i expect nothing less from taran

    • @darek4488
      @darek4488 3 роки тому +25

      I wonder if he leaves the cinema if gets a shit spot.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 3 роки тому +8

      Get there early enough and you have no problems.

    • @jelmero3090
      @jelmero3090 3 роки тому +5

      @@wobblysauce there is no specific seats you pay for in the us?

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 3 роки тому

      @@jelmero3090 And again... if you get there early enough and you have no problems.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 3 роки тому +1

      Let's be honest. When was the last time any of us was at a theater?

  • @lurick
    @lurick 3 роки тому +755

    If you can't see spots after turning off the TV, you're not close enough!

    • @robloxsavage0242
      @robloxsavage0242 3 роки тому +62

      You aint gaming right til your eyes start burning

    • @thecrazyinsanity
      @thecrazyinsanity 3 роки тому +23

      @@darkeagle7674 stfu

    • @thecrazyinsanity
      @thecrazyinsanity 3 роки тому +1

      @@topup246 stfu

    • @emelia3322
      @emelia3322 3 роки тому

      You were first

    • @float32
      @float32 3 роки тому +2

      DMoney Industry, agreed, you need to experience the individual pixels to appreciate the movie.

  • @owenpatterson9355
    @owenpatterson9355 3 роки тому +15

    David sitting inches from the screen: “This is perfect”
    My favorite movie critic understands

  • @mihir7126
    @mihir7126 3 роки тому +2

    Every video by LTT is a bit unique and this is what I come here everyday for. Taking the very practical question of how close is too close to the display is something at least I haven't seen before. Nice one!

  • @6Fire1Fist9
    @6Fire1Fist9 3 роки тому +384

    "Taran's intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion" lmao almost missed that

    • @TimBass
      @TimBass 3 роки тому +4

      Haha, I saw that to. My only thought, was "yes, that sounds like what I need"

    • @mcmormus
      @mcmormus 3 роки тому +8

      I laughed so hard! Taran is such a Sheldon Cooper, and you know what? I love him for it. #nohomo
      Sometimes I see parts of my self in him. Maybe because I am a pedantic nerd...

    • @sim2er
      @sim2er 2 роки тому

      yeah I had to turn off captions to read that part, but I'm glad I noticed and did

  • @schubidubap
    @schubidubap 3 роки тому +653

    Me: "I have a 65" screen."
    Them: "That's not too extreme..."
    Me: "On my desk."

    • @_yuri
      @_yuri 3 роки тому +4

      i am jelly schubidubap

    • @tanishqsagar3440
      @tanishqsagar3440 3 роки тому +24

      man, you must have a really long desk

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 3 роки тому +4

      A mate of mine has done that. It's bloody brilliant!

    • @FukUazzhol3
      @FukUazzhol3 3 роки тому +7

      There Are Dozens Of Us.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas 3 роки тому +4

      Ill never understand it. 144 hz is literally so good, once you try it, you will never go back. Even my shitty TN panel...once I got it, damn.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 3 роки тому +5

    I've installed some TVs of this size when I worked at an AV company and usually it was just put about 10-15 feet away depending on the size of the room. Usually we put TVs this size in either living rooms or master bedrooms.

  • @maplegamer4736
    @maplegamer4736 2 роки тому +17

    The results were very good and indicative of what most people would find comfortable.
    30deg is great for tv shows, mixed content, and general living room viewing
    40deg is great for movies, especially if its a wide screen presentation
    And personally, i can easily do 50deg (taran level) for gaming. I would consider 40 deg the absolute minimum for solo/non-couch gaming

  • @neky92
    @neky92 3 роки тому +397

    Nicole: *shows up for a job interview at LMG*
    Linus: *looks at her shoes*
    Linus: "You are hired!"

    • @WhyteLis21
      @WhyteLis21 3 роки тому +76

      Also, if your Last name is "Butt " you're hire too. 4:09 😄

    • @ETtheOG
      @ETtheOG 3 роки тому +38

      ​@@WhyteLis21 I can only imagine the number of butt jokes she must get from everyone

    • @sopcannon
      @sopcannon 3 роки тому +41

      @@WhyteLis21 Sarah coming up from behind

    • @WhyteLis21
      @WhyteLis21 3 роки тому +1

      @@ETtheOG 😄 👍

    • @WhyteLis21
      @WhyteLis21 3 роки тому +1

      @@sopcannon 😄 👍

  • @samtherat6
    @samtherat6 3 роки тому +490

    Video Idea: Taran takes a 23andMe test to see if he's actually human.

  • @vhol93
    @vhol93 3 роки тому +3

    THANK YOU for putting the distances in metric system as well!!!!

  • @markh351
    @markh351 3 роки тому +8

    Cool video! I have a 75 inch TV and am sitting 8 feet 7 inches away from it and am quite happy with it under all circumstances. I think this puts my field of view at 35 degrees.

    • @johto
      @johto 4 місяці тому +1

      75" here and pretty same here, just did the fisting test, so about 40 degrees.

  • @misbahulhasanjinan4361
    @misbahulhasanjinan4361 3 роки тому +169

    6:31
    Taran Intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion😂

    • @Earan
      @Earan 3 роки тому +5

      The universially known, and well proven TISOOI. Nobody is allowed to sit anywhere else.

    • @erikeggenbakstad
      @erikeggenbakstad 3 роки тому +1

      😁👍

    • @qwertzuiku3t87hv86f8
      @qwertzuiku3t87hv86f8 3 роки тому +1

      In my experience it's a pretty good standard, close to my 48,1° to 56,4° horizontal FOV

    • @ShieTar_
      @ShieTar_ 3 роки тому

      @@qwertzuiku3t87hv86f8 I'm personally sitting about 3' away from a 40" for most desktop use. 7.6' on 86" seems fine for movies, but already too much for gaming to me. Then again, I play mostly RPGs and Strategy, not so much "click fast to murder anybody you can see" games.

  • @RadioactiveGamin
    @RadioactiveGamin 3 роки тому +341

    "Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion" I think we know who edited this one lmao

    • @8lec_R
      @8lec_R 3 роки тому +32

      Pelle Gustavs. It's at the end of the video

    • @ethanmcdonagh6945
      @ethanmcdonagh6945 3 роки тому +3

      @@8lec_R and Nicole Yuen

    • @8lec_R
      @8lec_R 3 роки тому

      @@ethanmcdonagh6945 thankyou 😅

    • @blockbertus
      @blockbertus 3 роки тому +1

      My thought exactly but it wasn't him this time around.

    • @RadioactiveGamin
      @RadioactiveGamin 3 роки тому +2

      @@8lec_R let me dream dammit!

  • @alexChook
    @alexChook 3 роки тому +1

    I feel like this is a good example of how you do a sponsor video. Well done guys

  • @spastheghost
    @spastheghost 3 роки тому +6

    I love how they have to include "Eyeball not to scale" in that graphic as if someone would get fooled otherwise

  • @infiniti4654
    @infiniti4654 3 роки тому +479

    My mom: "Your couch is way too close to the TV, there's no way this is the recommended distance!"
    Me: "Believe it or not, it's the normal distance recommended by TISOI standards."

    • @zachcrawford5
      @zachcrawford5 3 роки тому +13

      Please do this IRL.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 роки тому +3

      who care.. it all about lighting and how your DNA..

    • @highping5137
      @highping5137 2 роки тому +1

      @@campkira no genes has nothing to do with that it's about prefrance, and that isn't related to genes

  • @_IHateHandles_
    @_IHateHandles_ 3 роки тому +167

    5:40 - 'I always do this when I go to a theatre...'
    Of course he does. Only Taran would be that anal about viewing angles at a bloody movie theatre. XD

    • @maxzett
      @maxzett 3 роки тому +4

      Haha anal

    • @deeppurplefan
      @deeppurplefan 3 роки тому +16

      @@maxzett "I always do the fist test"

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato 3 роки тому

      first row or nothing

    • @_IHateHandles_
      @_IHateHandles_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@tsartomato One of the popular chains of movie theatres here the UK where I live (ODEON) have recently decked out most of their venues with recliner sofa's, and I can comfortably sit in the second row whilst reclining back and be totally comfortable with the viewing distance. About 30 feet from the screen. It's amazing. Ha ha.

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato 3 роки тому

      @@_IHateHandles_
      mine got new terrible seats we stopped going there
      also we bought 65 into my flat since it was the cheapest size. if we were rich that would be 120"+

  • @Ethan-qp4yz
    @Ethan-qp4yz 3 роки тому +5

    thank you taran for that helpful bit of knowledge of the "fist test"

  • @SheaHarris
    @SheaHarris 2 роки тому +6

    I'm a little less than nine feet from a 120" screen and that seems perfect. Not overwhelming at all. I had a 82" screen before that for nine years so I was used to a big screen but that was still a lot smaller and didn't take long to seem small.

    • @vishvrajzala8017
      @vishvrajzala8017 10 місяців тому

      You need to buy a projector😅

    • @SheaHarris
      @SheaHarris 10 місяців тому

      @@vishvrajzala8017 I have one. That's how I have a 120" screen.

  • @TheSchwarztrinker
    @TheSchwarztrinker 3 роки тому +357

    If there's an intriguing video idea involving displays or just old common tech questions with an interesting twist (because the bleeding edge tech justifies another look at them), then James is almost guaranteed to be the writer. He also always makes great use of the big team LMG have at their disposal now.
    I feel like James is a little underrated. He's a great guy and as a writer he is the most balanced I think. He is informative and detail oriented where necessary, puts all of that in to an interesting "story" (what Linus call it) and keeps it entertaining as a charismatic host (Linus and him also have great chemistry). Linus, if you read this, give that man a raise!

    • @LaDeXi
      @LaDeXi 3 роки тому +56

      This. James, Alex and Anthony are the holy trinity of LTT.

    • @morgancampbell3505
      @morgancampbell3505 3 роки тому +5

      Deffo my favourite lmg on-screen personality

    • @Matpermad
      @Matpermad 3 роки тому +16

      James and Riley have better chemistry for me

    • @rnbpl
      @rnbpl 3 роки тому +5

      James is the new Luke

    • @MsciwojzPolska
      @MsciwojzPolska 3 роки тому +10

      Nice try James

  • @matteob.6710
    @matteob.6710 3 роки тому +100

    Taran was calculating the minimum distance from the screen at which he could fit all his keyboards

  • @troyrollanoesteban9910
    @troyrollanoesteban9910 3 роки тому +2

    You guys just helped me decide that the 90 series is the right one for me. I’m gonna get the 55 inch for my small apartment though lol. Upgrading from a 43 inch. Maybe in a couple years I’ll go above 65

  • @toby2636
    @toby2636 3 роки тому +9

    Imagine seeing Taran waving his hands in the air at the pictures.

  • @starr0401
    @starr0401 3 роки тому +128

    4:10 Is her last name really "Butt"?
    That's... pretty cool actually.

    • @powandwow750
      @powandwow750 3 роки тому +34

      I wouldn't want that as a last name

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays 3 роки тому +4

      Lol

    • @x-daveonpc
      @x-daveonpc 3 роки тому +55

      Imagine having "Dick" as a first name on top of that...

    • @malisa71
      @malisa71 3 роки тому +26

      I can only imagine the bulling in the school

    • @markeldik7057
      @markeldik7057 3 роки тому +3

      Back in the day when I delivered mail. I had someone in my area whose name, translated to English, was steals shit.(as in poo)
      Like as a parent why would you do that 🤣

  • @victorrosberg1919
    @victorrosberg1919 3 роки тому +128

    "Are you sitting TOO close?"
    Looking at a LG CX 48" sitting on the desk...nope!

    • @victorrosberg1919
      @victorrosberg1919 3 роки тому +3

      @Gus Cox wait is over in 4days + logistics or so ;)

    • @chinmayshalaw
      @chinmayshalaw 3 роки тому +4

      @@superpsychedelics5451 I'm reporting your comment everywhere.
      Go make good content if you want people to watch. Spamming here will not work.

    • @daniel_960_
      @daniel_960_ 3 роки тому

      Gus Cox that’s just how it is I guess with oleds

    • @victorrosberg1919
      @victorrosberg1919 3 роки тому

      @Gus Cox nope, but I think I know what you mean...Ill post a reply if I figure it out, haven´t troubleshooted it yet

    • @imresomodi4961
      @imresomodi4961 3 роки тому +1

      @@victorrosberg1919 I think it startet after the first firmware update...its a bit annoying when surfing the web.... Its dimming when no cursormovement is present...after moving the mouse its going back to "normal" brightness. (OLED light is set to 50)

  • @Arjay404
    @Arjay404 3 роки тому +2

    Haha, Taran's intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion. God I love Taran, funnily enough my numbers would probably be pretty close to him. I have a bad tendency to sit too close to the TV. If we are watching a movie, I either have to sit on the spot on the couch closest to the tv or I have to grab a lose chair to sit closer.

  • @thenumnums
    @thenumnums 3 роки тому

    I think videos like this should be seen more. The information presented is very interesting and I hate seeing it with so much less views in comparison to other LTT videos.

  • @aranbateni9995
    @aranbateni9995 3 роки тому +93

    "Achievement Unlocked!
    Master Segue"
    OK that really made me laugh hard 😂🤣

  • @rebekahmccreary9729
    @rebekahmccreary9729 3 роки тому +51

    Taran might actually be the smartest odd person on the planet

    • @tharealgc
      @tharealgc 3 роки тому

      How that actually works? Fist has to fit inside the frame when you turn it up and down? Right?

    • @zbyszk1234
      @zbyszk1234 3 роки тому +5

      I really see no point in buying large tv then and then sitting far away 'cause someone said it need to be 30% of my field of view. I am sitting 40cm from my 42 inch tv and immersion in games is fantastic. There is no point in buying large tv and moving yourself far from it. If you want to perceive 80inch as 32 because of distance then buy 32inch in the first place.

    • @manaspradhan8041
      @manaspradhan8041 3 роки тому +4

      @@zbyszk1234 the point of buying a larger TV is to fill a larger living room. You can have your preference on how much of your field of view you want filled with TV and then you look at your living room size and you get a tv

    • @zbyszk1234
      @zbyszk1234 3 роки тому

      @@manaspradhan8041 I live in a village and everyone in my family have a small (2,5m by 3,8m )room. I have my bed , desk and tv there. Still what I mean was that tv should taking quite a lot of your field of view cause otherwise you fell like you are watching YT on your smartphone (really expensive one) and I don't think you would like to watch your phone from 5 meters.

    • @manaspradhan8041
      @manaspradhan8041 3 роки тому +1

      @@zbyszk1234 yes it should take a lot of your field of view but you don't shove your face into the screen either do you? I think you don't realise how big an 86 inch TV is. That thing is probably huge. They did talk about why you don't want to sit too close in the video itself.

  • @GamerRusith
    @GamerRusith 3 роки тому +6

    "*eyeball not to scale"
    Yeah thanks Linus, I wasn't so sure

  • @jjlrdz
    @jjlrdz 3 роки тому

    This is actually a really good informative video. Thanks a lot :)

  • @rajdeepbhattacharrya1752
    @rajdeepbhattacharrya1752 3 роки тому +60

    Kids: I'm in for Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion

  • @melvinwarmpf1264
    @melvinwarmpf1264 3 роки тому +20

    2:18
    right corner: *eyeball not to scale
    me: Yeah, I hope so

  • @robmooreproductions7160
    @robmooreproductions7160 3 роки тому +2

    A video on the science of why we want to be closer for gaming would be cool. When I was a kid I could never get comfortable on the couch playing games but it was fine for watching TV

  • @jonjohnson4981
    @jonjohnson4981 3 роки тому +10

    Janice: I'm the type of person who sits at the very back of the movie theater...
    Giggity! Alright Janice!

  • @Code-n-Flame
    @Code-n-Flame 3 роки тому +44

    I find that viewing distance with bigger TVs changes drastically depending on what you're doing. For TV watching I can sit about 9 feet away from my 55" and be perfectly fine. But with gaming I have to get up to 5-6 feet so I can read text properly.

    • @cokeycola9514
      @cokeycola9514 6 місяців тому

      I have a 43" 4K and I sit about 5-7Ft away and always found the text to be a bit on the hard to read side, but felt that I was still sitting pretty close to my TV. Just upgraded to a 55" and now it feels so much more appropriate for my sitting distance! It's all about size and distance as a ratio.

  • @lachyness
    @lachyness 3 роки тому +162

    Linus do a Microsoft flight simulator build

    • @khrisp
      @khrisp 3 роки тому +7

      yes

    • @diskreet
      @diskreet 3 роки тому +5

      Love the idea - would like to see a few builds since it's such a resource hog - $1k, $2k, $3k?

    • @karai5082
      @karai5082 3 роки тому +6

      He needs to wait a few more days until the 3090 and 3080 come out, or maybe even wait for the ti or super to come out

    • @ussj4brolli
      @ussj4brolli 3 роки тому

      @@topup246 Troll

    • @ravenlorans
      @ravenlorans 3 роки тому +2

      @@ussj4brolli Along with Vijit verma. Just Report all their BS Posts.

  • @matthewmccann5780
    @matthewmccann5780 3 роки тому +6

    It seems that with 4k resolution you are finally able to sit closely enough to your TV such that you meet the SMPTE and THX recommended distances, but are far enough away to not be able to discern individual pixels. If this is the case, are there any real benefits to pushing resolutions on new TVs beyond 4k?

    • @Afonso.Soares
      @Afonso.Soares 2 роки тому

      One of reasons I can think of is going beyond said recommendations, specially for theaters. 4K is just enough for 2.39:1 movies, and there’s also the IMAX cinema, where their horizontal 70mm film has a theoretical resolution of 12K.
      One of the most overkill sensors that never materialized was the RED Epic 617, which would be capable of capturing a 28000x9334 image at 25 fps

  • @ArturoTabera
    @ArturoTabera 3 роки тому +2

    1. You left the light on.
    2. You didn't play his/her favorite movie.

  • @animefreak7098
    @animefreak7098 3 роки тому +14

    6:37 Taran, editing the video: everyone but me is wrong.

    • @zbyszk1234
      @zbyszk1234 3 роки тому +2

      I really see no point in buying large tv then and then sitting far away 'cause someone said it need to be 30% of my field of view. I am sitting 40cm from my 42 inch tv and immersion in games is fantastic. There is no point in buying large tv and moving yourself far from it. If you want to perceive 80inch as 32 because of distance then buy 32inch in the first place.

  • @PSkullKidDnazen
    @PSkullKidDnazen 3 роки тому +52

    Where can I learn more about the "Taran Intergalactic Standard of Overwhelming Inmersion" ?

  • @j616s
    @j616s 3 роки тому +2

    Really interesting that only one person went close enough that you'd start to be able to discern the pixels on a 1080p screen... Even then, they were just barely closer than that point.

  • @Katzelle3
    @Katzelle3 3 роки тому +5

    Fun fact: At the THX ideal distance, the TV perfectly matches the visual acuity of your eyes at 8K. In other words, you don't need Anti-Aliasing!

    • @speedstyle.
      @speedstyle. Рік тому +1

      That's not true. For 20/20 vision it's about 1350p resolution (~2.4K), even for the best 1% with 40/20 vision it's less than 5K. So you should never see pixels at 8k - but even at 100K or something you would want antialiasing. It's not a substitute for resolution.

    • @Katzelle3
      @Katzelle3 Рік тому

      @@speedstyle.
      That is assuming that humans cannot see any details that are smaller than one arc minute when it is closer to a third of an arc minute due to micro movements the eyes perform when looking at an object for extended periods of time
      Aliasing artefacts actually become too small to be seen at 8k

    • @speedstyle.
      @speedstyle. Рік тому

      ​@@Katzelle3 Aliasing is where pixels don't match what they would show with infinite resolution. If you have a 100K screen with 200 001 vertical black and white lines, the left half will round to black and the right half will round to white. This is possible to create at any resolution, so you always want antialiasing.
      If you're saying we gain resolution on objects over time that sounds pretty cool, I'll look into it! However I don't think it's aliasing, and it wouldn't let you see individual pixels. I think it's also baked into the standard eg Snellen measurements of visual acuity? Anyone getting better than 40/20 (20/10?) vision must be using that kind of temporal processing, as the density of cones on the retina is only about 0.5 arcminutes.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. 3 роки тому +197

    *Taps forehead*
    Can't sit far enough when you don't have the room or desk space to move around

    • @T1G_ap
      @T1G_ap 3 роки тому +5

      This boi has notificaions on

    • @zelo101
      @zelo101 3 роки тому +1

      hi

    • @robinhoward7408
      @robinhoward7408 3 роки тому +13

      @@T1G_ap for every single youtube channel

    • @epsilon2725
      @epsilon2725 3 роки тому +2

      He's real.

    • @purrito3892
      @purrito3892 3 роки тому +10

      Woah I haven’t see you in a long time, where have you been justin?

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. 3 роки тому +22

    The human eye can only see 1080p from less than 5 feet away

    • @ryankim7848
      @ryankim7848 3 роки тому +3

      justin have you been commenting lately? i haven’t seen you for ages

    • @irwainnornossa4605
      @irwainnornossa4605 3 роки тому +1

      Whos feet? :-D Retarded „units“ much?

    • @lad2987
      @lad2987 3 роки тому +1

      @@irwainnornossa4605 nice bait. Didnt work tho

    • @otterpng
      @otterpng 3 роки тому

      It's been a while Justin, how are ya?

    • @sim2er
      @sim2er 2 роки тому

      This is objectively false

  • @user-fi9df1vz4d
    @user-fi9df1vz4d 3 роки тому +6

    Great video! But one comment: when doing the test, it's better to remove all taps on the floor in order to reduce the anchoring effect.

  • @judicoulter8969
    @judicoulter8969 7 місяців тому

    Excellent review! We just purchased a 65” LG G3.

  • @Fafathewiz
    @Fafathewiz 3 роки тому +6

    Linus flexing his staff size is purely awesome. Keep on growing LTT you deserve it!

  • @larrimus4309
    @larrimus4309 3 роки тому +17

    6:30 "Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion." lol

  • @RogerWilsonTodd
    @RogerWilsonTodd 9 місяців тому

    Very helpful as I try to choose a TV size for my den. I am surprised at how close people are sitting (i.e. large viewing angle). My current viewing angles are 25deg in the den and 40deg in bedroom, and I definitely see content better in the bedroom. I plan to go with 35deg for new den TV. Thanks for the help!

  • @psygnale
    @psygnale 3 роки тому +2

    I'm definitely with the second group.
    I snagged a 73" Mitsubishi WS73907 back in 2002 after my first home theater TV, a 32" Sony Trinitron XBR KV-32XBR, finally gave up the ghost.
    I was the first person among family and friends with a true "big screen" and I loved it fairly close (10-11 feet, limited by living room) while everyone else thought that was too close...at first.
    FFWD to today where pretty much everyone has a MINIMUM screen size of 50+ inches and I feel like even 65's and 70's look like postage stamps at typical "living room distance"...and a LOT of people are agreeing with me.
    Kinda weird to be old enough to remember when 25" TVs were considered "big". No wonder I used to sit so close as a kid.

  • @henderhex
    @henderhex 3 роки тому +3

    I'm so glad you guys brought up the SMPTE thing. You guys have sorta touched on this topic before, and as a broadcast engineer I've always wanted to mention that the goal is for the viewer to be immersed by filling their FoV.

  • @lexistential
    @lexistential 3 роки тому +15

    the fist thing is actually super interesting, I've never heard that

  • @PyromancerRift
    @PyromancerRift 3 роки тому +2

    I use a 40" 4k TV as monitor. That pixel density makes it perfect for a monitor because you can sit at 2.5 feet and see no individual pixel. Only drawback is 60hz but for anything else apart from FPS games, it's perfect. And cheap.

  • @IrchaMan
    @IrchaMan 3 роки тому +3

    5:37 Taran is allways such a nerd, I love him xD

  • @WorldRaceMVG
    @WorldRaceMVG 3 роки тому +46

    Holy shit haven’t seen Taran in forever

  • @mattmers
    @mattmers 3 роки тому +18

    LG sponsored this video:
    Not enough local dimming zones and peak brightness not as good as the Vizio. It's hard to call an 86" tv value....

    • @compilationstv8573
      @compilationstv8573 3 роки тому

      That's LTT for ya

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 3 роки тому +1

      To be fair $2800 ain't bad at all for that big chungus.

    • @curt8806
      @curt8806 3 роки тому

      LTT says LG is worse than Vizio. Don’t buy LG according to LTT.

  • @MayoBytes
    @MayoBytes 3 роки тому +1

    I had my 45 inch TV on my desk for a short while once, so I guess I fall into the "Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion", and honestly I am ok with that.
    I always like to scoot the couch up close to the TV especially for games.

  • @deeppurplefan
    @deeppurplefan 3 роки тому +10

    "I always do the fist test." Mad lad.

  • @rynomclaughlin1595
    @rynomclaughlin1595 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you LMG for making sponsored content that doesn't feel like an ad and that is really engrossing and interesting

  • @Sami-df7dj
    @Sami-df7dj 3 роки тому +15

    Any one else thought that this was a tech quickie video by the thumbnail

  • @tehphones
    @tehphones 3 роки тому

    James always has the most entertaining videos to watch.

  • @paulvail7926
    @paulvail7926 3 роки тому +2

    So, AVS, and front projectors ask this question about once every couple of years. The most common size is about 10” to 12” of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance. These are all about the BIG screen experience, but with immersion and image quality being the whole point for many, these numbers hold solid.
    TV viewing is very different than home theater. It is much more social, so further viewing distances allow interaction with others. When you eliminate the room, as you try to do in a home theater, you find people enjoy much larger sizes. Also, much dimmer displays, like OLED and front projection.
    You should try this again in a large home theater space with a good (JVC) front projector.
    We sit about 16 feet from a 161 inch diagonal.
    Immersion!

  • @ajinkyanaik1433
    @ajinkyanaik1433 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve never seen such a big ad for a TV

  • @jamessegers5834
    @jamessegers5834 3 роки тому +67

    I've always thought Taran was simular to Sheldon Cooper. This just confirms my suspicion.

  • @Afonso.Soares
    @Afonso.Soares 2 роки тому +2

    Should have come here sooner, but there are some misinformation about SMPTE:
    - their recommendation for viewing distance only considers image height, that being 3x with +-1x of acceptance;
    - the 30° value that everyone mistakenly talk about is regarding maximum seating offset from center, as in +-15° from the middle.
    Using that calculation, you can see that THX is actually following that rule if you consider a 2.39:1 movie.
    Furthermore, NTSC, PAL, HDTV (720p and 1080p) and UHDTV 1 and 2 (being 4K and 8K respectively) all follow the rule of minimum distance to not see individual pixels, and if you think NTSC was funny, you should see where UHDTV falls in (spoiler alert, it’s 1.6x for 4K, as seen in this video, 0.8x for 8K).
    Edit: Taran, surprisingly, is still within the SMPTE standard. For knowledge, 1.85:1 movies accepts maximum of 50 degrees, and 62 degrees for 2.39:1

    • @zidniafifamani2378
      @zidniafifamani2378 Рік тому +1

      TISOOI is surprisingly still acceptable?, what a shocker.

    • @Afonso.Soares
      @Afonso.Soares Рік тому

      @@zidniafifamani2378 always have been

  • @DRJ5
    @DRJ5 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, really helped

  • @anamtuirseach
    @anamtuirseach 3 роки тому +6

    Love videos like this where we get various LMG staff opinions. Gives viewers a better idea of what we can expect. Plus it's always great to see the team!

  • @shivanshkumar3754
    @shivanshkumar3754 3 роки тому +4

    Ah yes! The Taran Intergalactic Standard. I always abide by it.

  • @3abas23
    @3abas23 3 роки тому +8

    Petition for Linus to have a dark mode intro

    • @bigdoggo5827
      @bigdoggo5827 3 роки тому

      Is that your cat?

    • @ghejnuni
      @ghejnuni 3 роки тому

      They do, they just dont use it often

  • @maxj9204
    @maxj9204 3 роки тому +1

    I did the thing holding my hand out to estimate fov, my home setup is ~30° and is just about right for me. Out of curiosity I also compared that to how close I hold my phone when I'm watching videos, and it takes up almost exactly the same footprint as my tv. Interesting.

  • @mvez10
    @mvez10 3 роки тому +9

    I'm definitely in Tarans group. I have my projector at 120" and sit 9ft away. I think it really does come down to what you're used to and the the level of immersion you are looking for. My wife and 3 kids are all fine with that distance too and 90% of what we watch on the projector is movies.

    • @Freez_Izzy
      @Freez_Izzy 3 роки тому +1

      Same. My projector screen ~105 but angle the same. Great movie experience.

    • @SheaHarris
      @SheaHarris 2 роки тому +1

      Same here 120" slightly under 9.'

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld Рік тому

      Yeah, that's 51 degrees. I just read that 80 degrees is the max for the human eye, which I never knew -- given how 120-160 is a real talking point (I guess, that's just marketing, or people really love to turn their necks a lot). The general 'max' is seen as 70 degrees, but 60 degrees more generally. The 'sweet spot' for closeness is 45-50 degrees.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld Рік тому

      Fun fact: at 1080p/32", watching 1080p Blu-ray, my max is 63 degrees, which is 1.5 x 15.5 (screen height; just under 2'). This is where I can see the image without seeing pixels. Any close than this and I can see pixels a little. This is the hard limit. But, 50-63 degrees is too close for me. I like anywhere from 42 to 26 degrees (3-5'), depending on a few factors. Blu-ray also looks good at 3.5 feet away (36-degree viewing angle). 4' is really the limit in terms of quality and close viewing angle, though. Anywhere from 3.5-4.5' is perfect for most films and most people. At 5', the picture quality is slightly better in many cases, but the viewing angle is 26 degrees (the hard limit for the back of any cinema). 4.5' is about 30 degrees, which is very common, too.

    • @jedifam66
      @jedifam66 Рік тому

      Damn lol

  • @Sophistry0001
    @Sophistry0001 3 роки тому +5

    I wonder how different it would be for other people, older or non tech-savvy people who don't give a hoot about the specs or tech and just want to watch. Like of course if you're into the tech you're going to be looking for the different features and shortcomings but someone who doesn't can just take it in a different perspective. It would actually be cool to see not only seating distance preference but also a comparison between a handful of TVs from the uber budget to maximum awesome and see which ones the non-tech initiated prefer.

  • @Wrathlon
    @Wrathlon 3 роки тому

    I have an 86" LG 955T the last of the 3D TVs that also has HDR, 4K, Dolby Vision, etc as well.
    My seating position is bang on what everyone else is doing.

  • @I-0-0-I
    @I-0-0-I 3 роки тому

    More of this please.

  • @webfischi
    @webfischi 3 роки тому +6

    0:33 when you notice, you're not the small UA-camr anymore, that you used to be

    • @KittenoftheBroccoli
      @KittenoftheBroccoli 3 роки тому +1

      When you remember why you upgraded from a house to an office building.

  • @joshuaschwartz247
    @joshuaschwartz247 3 роки тому +4

    My biggest thing is lights on or off because immersion changes. no distraction on the sides changes distances

  • @Halzman
    @Halzman 3 роки тому

    I use a 43" Sony 4k tv (XBR43X88E) as my primary display for both my work and gaming pc. My face is usually 1.5-2.5 ft away from the display at any given time. Been using the setup for a few years now (started with a 55" but it was too big) and its worked very well for me. Playing Modern Warfare @ 4k w/ R7 1800X and GTX 1080FE, I get anywhere from 50-65 fps (tv is only 60 hz) and is so immersive, due to the screen taking up my primary FOV.

  • @IdealIdeas100
    @IdealIdeas100 3 роки тому +5

    The amount of dimming zones sucks.
    Im looking for a tv with 8,294,400 or more local dimming zones.

  • @Noooooooooooooooooooooo0
    @Noooooooooooooooooooooo0 3 роки тому +8

    Am I sitting too close?
    Yes

  • @nintariplays5654
    @nintariplays5654 3 роки тому +8

    Would have loved to see also in this video the distance in which users can tell the difference between 4k and 1080p on this set :) Also side note...I sit about 12-13 feet away from a 110" screen lol but gaming is amazing at that size / distance

    • @jelly8594
      @jelly8594 11 місяців тому

      It would not fit in an advertisement for a 4k tv😅

  • @maykonstinglin1
    @maykonstinglin1 3 роки тому

    I was just trying to figure out that when buying a new tv. Thanks Linus

  • @codygibson2809
    @codygibson2809 3 роки тому

    So many people I’ve never seen before. The team is really growing.

  • @Victor-xh2ye
    @Victor-xh2ye 3 роки тому +10

    "Taran intergalactic standard of overwhelming immersion" that sounds immersive.

  • @shaikimran3196
    @shaikimran3196 3 роки тому +8

    Why is LG sponsoring this channel so many videos these days🤔🤔😂😂😂 linus is making a big buck there🤩🤩🤩

    • @ArthurVicentini
      @ArthurVicentini 3 роки тому +3

      Because people are not buying NanoCell TVs (looks like people are buying Samsung QLEDs instead - in fact, whenever I'm buying my next TV, it will be either a QLED or an OLED).

  • @regalr4695
    @regalr4695 3 роки тому

    This video is really relevant to me as I daily drive a 55" Samsung NU8500 as a monitor for work and gaming at about 30". I run it at 1440p 120 Hz. Is there a difference in immersive viewing angle when using it as a monitor and as a tv?

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel 3 роки тому +1

    I've got a 75-inch tv on 4.5m distance and its excellent. I would have gone bigger but the sizes above 75 get absurdly expensive on the higher end.