Inside the Menendez Movement l 20/20 l PART 2

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Menendez brothers implicated in burglaries in Los Angeles area: Part 2
    Lyle and Erik Menendez were caught in burglaries around their Calabasas, California, neighborhood and Erik was put on probation. The family moved to Beverly Hills.
    #ABCNews #ABC2020 #Documentary #MenendezBrothers

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  • @gmchessplay9043
    @gmchessplay9043 3 роки тому +4459

    Imagine going to prison for the rest of your life for taking the life of someone who took your life from you from the moment you were born.

    • @honeydewcandy919
      @honeydewcandy919 3 роки тому +143

      THANK YOU!! this case reminds me of Gypsy rose and her mother. Didi took away gypsy’s life, and so did these poor boys parents. they didn’t know how to live, they were broken and torn apart, yet these people still make them look like monsters and etc. i don’t think so, this is gross. they should be freed so they can live a real life away from fear.

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому +29

      Being abuse is not a justification for murder or planning a murder. You can’t justify it because you feel like it. We all have to abide by the same rules.

    • @jvarasojeda
      @jvarasojeda 3 роки тому +6

      Allegedly

    • @acha3483
      @acha3483 3 роки тому +45

      @@kaylinwhite6584 who said? You think that people can't snap for their Trauma 🤨

    • @Tori-tz2ty
      @Tori-tz2ty 3 роки тому +61

      @@kaylinwhite6584 so you'd rather these boys continue to be sexually and emotionally abused and hold that trauma while their parents continue living lavishly and able to hide this fact for the rest of their lives? When you grow up in Beverly Hills with rich and abusive parents with nobody to tell because they're rich and thought to perfect, it only takes so long for a child to break. Those brothers never got a chance to live like normal kids, so in a way, their own lives were taken the moment their father ever laid his hands on them. If abuse is not a justification for murder, then self-defense isn't either. yes, murder is murder, but abuse is abuse, and abuse can wreck a life just as much if not more than murder can.

  • @kat8655
    @kat8655 3 роки тому +3691

    “You’re a normal kid who killed your parents” no they killed their abusers

    • @Juanramos0621
      @Juanramos0621 3 роки тому +9

      Parents

    • @helili
      @helili 3 роки тому +234

      @@Juanramos0621 no, abusers.

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому +7

      They still gave them life and despite everything still love them. Probably not forgive but sill love.

    • @kat8655
      @kat8655 3 роки тому +155

      @@kaylinwhite6584 his abusers didn’t give them life they gave the brothers hell.

    • @kat8655
      @kat8655 3 роки тому +48

      @Kaylin White doesn’t matter what matters is what their abusers did to them

  • @victoireagnon8481
    @victoireagnon8481 3 роки тому +406

    they shouldn't be spending life in jail , they are abuse victims!

    • @DeltaIsIcy
      @DeltaIsIcy 3 роки тому +6

      Murder is murder.

    • @victoireagnon8481
      @victoireagnon8481 3 роки тому +17

      @@DeltaIsIcy they are victims.

    • @marissagarcia9794
      @marissagarcia9794 3 роки тому +6

      @@DeltaIsIcy their dad was going to kill them, tfym. have you watched any of the documentaries? they survived murder, rape, sexual assault, and being abused.

    • @DeltaIsIcy
      @DeltaIsIcy 3 роки тому +1

      @@marissagarcia9794 bro how you survive murder 😭 you dead if it’s murder

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому +2

      @@marissagarcia9794 Not in that moment. He and his wife were sitting on the couch unarmed as they were ambushed by their sons and viciously killed. There was no imminent danger present.

  • @lilly2224
    @lilly2224 3 роки тому +236

    It's got my blood boiling that Erik said he was a normal kid and then that lady said "Erik *laughs a bit* a kid that killed their parents" obviously he knows that he just wants to feel normal..

    • @Estherknowsall
      @Estherknowsall 3 роки тому +11

      Right! honestly its just cruel

    • @aniriv8998
      @aniriv8998 2 роки тому

      “And you still say your a normal kid?” stupid old hag 😒 fucking hate her 🤬

  • @Ella-gk7vu
    @Ella-gk7vu 3 роки тому +995

    how can these people not realize that they were acting out because of what they went trough? And it doesn’t justify their actions but gives people an understanding. I feel so bad for them because they’re missing out on life because of what their parents did too them. Imagine someone abusing you probably almost everyday of your whole life, how would you feel? This was an act of self defense and again it is not right of them to kill their parents but doesn’t it say something about the way they were living that they went so far as murder? I think this case should get reopened. I also believe that they should’ve gotten jail time but not life time maybe just a few years. This is just not fair at all and people have no compassion. (my english isn’t that good but i’m extremely aggravated and sick of humanity)

    • @michelleotto2574
      @michelleotto2574 3 роки тому +26

      absolutely agree! Killing is never the right option but you have to see it from their perspective too. Jail is right cause you can’t make exceptions but not for life, considering what they went through since their childhood!!

    • @NLR759
      @NLR759 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, I agree with you 100%.

    • @stayhere9628
      @stayhere9628 3 роки тому +1

      they seem to be living a better life than their parents.

    • @jstephenj
      @jstephenj 2 роки тому +8

      @@stayhere9628 Well, they're living. That's definitely a leg up on their parents, but I don't think their lives are better than their parents.

    • @Audrey_650
      @Audrey_650 2 роки тому +8

      Yes! And some people will say “they could have just told someone” they knew their dad could beat any charge and then there would be repercussions to them.

  • @laylia4626
    @laylia4626 3 роки тому +965

    I do think they are victims but I also think they should’ve gone to jail, but not for life 5 years maximum

    • @catnior
      @catnior 3 роки тому +176

      Yeah they’re childhood AND adulthood were taken away from them. They’ve never known peace. Sad.

    • @laylia4626
      @laylia4626 3 роки тому +43

      @@catnior I know they just wanted to be at peace. So sad :(

    • @briannaolivia5640
      @briannaolivia5640 3 роки тому +33

      So sad I know they probably live better in jail now that they know their parents are dead they are at peace but they deserve their freedom too 😩

    • @donna9943
      @donna9943 3 роки тому +33

      It’s crazy how our justice system normalizes sexual assault/abuse

    • @megajoe811
      @megajoe811 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you judge judy

  • @sebastiansavoie8365
    @sebastiansavoie8365 3 роки тому +78

    "they just got bored with life and they wanted excitement." they were literally traumatized children. the commentary is harmful.

  • @jiannyguzman6981
    @jiannyguzman6981 3 роки тому +292

    What’s really disturbing is that they continue to use the money as an excuse. Making it seem like they were spoiled brats just because they lived in Cali. They based this case on the income they provided instead of the childhood trauma that the parents caused.

    • @melaninrayy7966
      @melaninrayy7966 2 роки тому +1

      WELL MAYBE THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE WENT ON A SHOPPING SPREE RIGHT AFTER !!! Should’ve THREW A PARTY TO CELEBRATE 🤣🤷‍♀️ .. ANYTIME MONEY IS INLVOLVED ITS ALWAYS GONE BE A DISTRACTION ..

    • @LexHeroux
      @LexHeroux 2 роки тому +1

      People assume things because it looks a certain way but if their story is consistent with the reality of who their parents were from their friends’ perspective and people that knew them…also and the raw emotion behind the stories, there’s definitely a lot to dig into rather than just assume. A normal person would not just kill their parents for money, no, but they aren’t normal because they had sick and abusive parents. A “normal person” with that much trauma and abuse, I would venture to say would probably have the capacity to do something outlandish like this. It’s a cry for help and a symptom of sick kids as a result of abusive parenting. This does not justify the actions of these men, but it brings more clarity and I think would be grounds for more grace.

  • @jannissanford2815
    @jannissanford2815 3 роки тому +335

    It’s disgusting how they portrayed the brothers. They were victims and did not live a life that normal kids do. They killed their abusers

    • @Alex-vf8ww
      @Alex-vf8ww 3 роки тому +1

      ur fucked

    • @billyswife9805
      @billyswife9805 3 роки тому

      @@Alex-vf8ww no you are

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +2

      let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father. Even when relatives testified it was always lead to the father. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after if they were so traumatized?

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Рік тому +2

      @@IamGaby They didn't shoot their parents in the knees. That's a myth. Kitty had no wounds to her knees, while Jose had been shot just once above the knee, not in the kneecap. And by the way, several family members testified that Kitty was often emotionally cruel to her sons, especially Lyle, and that she would sometimes fly into unpredictable rages. She didn't like being a mother and even told several people that she wished her sons had never been born. She didn't protect them. There was plenty of testimony about her treatment of her children, so I'm getting really annoyed with "the mother never abused them" or "the mother was innocent" comments. The testimony of this can easily be found by watching the footage from the first trial (the entirety of it is on Court TV's website, and some of it is here on youtube). A forensic expert confirmed after studying the crime scene that it was an unplanned killing (for pre-meditated, that would mean that it was planned BEFORE the crime). It was overkill, and the brothers used very loud weapons, which doesn't make sense if they wanted to get away with it. The crime scene was messy and disorganized.

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby Рік тому +1

      @@Muirmaiden the mother still never sexually abused her kids and speaking of sexual abuse that was never fully proven. Your details of the trial seem a little conflated especially the part of the so called expert saying it was unplanned. Because it was definitely planned. They bought weapons before the killing, stating “for protection” but when the crime scene was investigated they found that their dad was shot from behind killing him instantly so that while they were scared for their life defense goes out the window. All arguments aside it did not justify the murder, bottom line. You keep using emotions and the fact of the matter is it was completely overkill. Wouldn’t it make sense though if they were just “protecting” themselves that they wouldn’t care if they were heard? Anyway, nothing is justified get a grip

  • @Brendon.M.
    @Brendon.M. 3 роки тому +358

    Part one was 4 years ago- 😭

    • @shawty.413
      @shawty.413 3 роки тому +30

      I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT WAS THAT LONG AGO I -

    • @mooglare
      @mooglare 3 роки тому +6

      i think you're talking about a different video haha

    • @elmstreet2036
      @elmstreet2036 3 роки тому +2

      ur talking about the video about the case. This video is about the Melendez movement that started on tiktok. I think u misunderstood what the video is actually about

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому +4

      It’s not showing anything about the “movement” just recycle videos from a documentary.

    • @elmstreet2036
      @elmstreet2036 3 роки тому

      @@kaylinwhite6584 it does, if u search the exact same title part 1, they start off with talking about tiktok

  • @christinaterry7582
    @christinaterry7582 3 роки тому +116

    I'm so mad at the people in here saying "they were practicing being criminals" NO kids who are abused and have trauma act out....that's common knowledge

  • @leahhoffman7130
    @leahhoffman7130 3 роки тому +347

    This case is the first time I've heard publicly people mention about children 'playing' inappropriately because they didn't understand what was being done to them. This aspect needs to be shown more so people understand there's more victims to sexual assault than just the kids molested. Imo a molester should get at least life imprisonment for all the lives he ruins. can you imagine the guilt of knowing that you did something to your own brother because you didn't understand what was happening to you and you thought you were 'playing' then growing up to realize exactly what you did and how it feels and that because of you they feel the same exact way that you do... And looking at the person that did it to you and feeling like them even though you didn't understand what you were doing at the time... It breaks my heart.

  • @marcoamoogus7852
    @marcoamoogus7852 3 роки тому +194

    The robberies were to try to go to jail and escape their parents, after that didn’t work, they then murdered them

    • @MisssKayy
      @MisssKayy 3 роки тому +6

      The robberies were to show that they could do whatever they wanted and get away with it.

    • @pumpkindiamond994
      @pumpkindiamond994 3 роки тому +2

      @@MisssKayy I agree. It is hard for a judge to believe dishonest people in the first place like these brothers.

    • @NLR759
      @NLR759 3 роки тому +4

      Yes. One of the boys said when he went to jail for murder, it was the first time he could go to bed without worrying about his father coming into the room. The father would not even let him live in a university dorm, because he wanted to continue to control and abuse him. Father deserved what he got 100%.

    • @nejlababali7901
      @nejlababali7901 Рік тому

      Those molesters got what they deserved

  • @TequilaFlavouredKiz
    @TequilaFlavouredKiz 3 роки тому +74

    I think they weren’t practicing to be criminals. I think it was an outcry cause they were abused. Or they were acting out on purpose. That’s what abused children do. Can someone please hire an intelligent, skilled Prosecutor 🤦🏼‍♀️.

    • @assistancedogjourney3665
      @assistancedogjourney3665 3 роки тому +2

      I think that they stole because if they went to juvenile jail they would be free

  • @seemakhan8412
    @seemakhan8412 3 роки тому +58

    As for the Burglary, it was neither because they were trying to practice being criminals, nor boredom, as the 2 ladies suggest! It was likely the self-destructive behavior of severely abused children with a thought process that, perhaps atleast once, conceived escape from the horrible abuse even if it meant going to prison. OR, trying to steal a large sum of money 💰 so they could finally run away from the father's controlling clutches.
    I really have no doubt that their extreme behavior, to say the least, was the direct result of long-term abuse since there was zero evidence presented to suggest that they hated their parents OR were plain evil 😈 . It's obvious, beyond any doubt, that their actions all along were self-destructive, kinda Iike a Death Wish, not criminally driven. The link between juvenile offenders & child abuse is pretty well established. I truly believe that the behavior in all such cases is driven by the desire to self-destruct to escape &/or due to self-loathe (for not doing anything, for not being strong or brave enough, to end their victimization), not criminal intent.
    I think I make a solid case to get them out. There is enough fact-based data out there, to prove with very high certainty, that there is a very high correlation between self-destructive behavior in teens who suffered extreme long-term abuse. In Lyle & Erik's case, the abuse was off-the-charts BRUTAL so the end result was unprecedented too!

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd 2 роки тому +3

      No. You don’t get plan to blow someone’s face off, and then proceed to do so, without severe consequences. Nothing you stated justifies what occurred.

    • @janvdb9258
      @janvdb9258 2 роки тому

      Nope behaviour of two lazy liars and conmen who don't want to work

    • @fab8506
      @fab8506 2 роки тому +1

      Well said 💯%

    • @seemakhan8412
      @seemakhan8412 2 роки тому +1

      @@Obiamajoyisrmd And indeed I am NOT justifying their actions, rather trying to better understand their actions.
      I have no doubt that (a) they are not a threat to anyone else. (b) they have done their time, grown from their experience behind bars, are remorseful. I think they can be given a second chance if they have demonstrably changed.

  • @asiyyahmullen8777
    @asiyyahmullen8777 3 роки тому +13

    What type of parent thinks: *Yes it is ok to traumatize and sexually abuse my kids*

  • @user-ir7de2wv8y
    @user-ir7de2wv8y 3 роки тому +84

    kim kardashian should help them

  • @annaryan6364
    @annaryan6364 3 роки тому +34

    Knowing the whole story, the little crimes they committed (like the burglary and the public disturbances) are, although still wrong, understandable. They were raised to be messed up people. They had no control of their own body, so of course they’d seek control in their outside life.

  • @doodlebob2508
    @doodlebob2508 3 роки тому +22

    Those parents got what they deserved, if I was in their shoes I would have done the same thing. Almost every single day of your life getting sexually and emotionally abused by the people who are supposed to “love you the most” and they threaten to kill you and your sibling If y’all ever tell anyone or try to escape. We all know the cops wouldn’t have done anything to prevent the abuse from stopping. No one could save them
    Even when other people knew about it, they never did anything, the only ones who could save the brothers was themselves. After all those years of abuse and torture you lose it and you can’t take it no more, you want to be free of them, doing what ever it takes. If killing them is the only way to escape then yes I stand by it, it was self defense. The things they’re parents did to them is DISGUSTING and inhuman. They already spent like 25 years in jail, it’s time to let them go and get justice for them.

    • @NLR759
      @NLR759 3 роки тому +2

      100% agree. The mother knew about the father's abuse of the boys and did nothing. The father also wouldn't allow the older boy live in the dorms at university. Told him he had to keep living at home. Likely so he could continue the control and abuse. There was no escape for these boys. Abuse victims cannot think straight or logically, to get out of the situation any other way. Father was a sick man and deserved what he got. So did the mother.

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +1

      let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? They allowed the cops to believe it was the mafia. Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized and defending themselves? This indicates a cover up. Otherwise they would have just straight up told the police we had to do it immediately upon arriving on scene.

  • @LeadGuitarist
    @LeadGuitarist 3 роки тому +62

    They were escaping from sexual abuse.. not cold blooded murderers

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому

      They were escaping alleged abuse by becoming convicted cold blooded murderers. They killed 2 people. They are we’re they belong

  • @briannaolivia5640
    @briannaolivia5640 3 роки тому +36

    Free them they didn’t do nun anyone else wouldn’t have done 😪

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому

      No many abused people don’t commit a double murder to escape. Speak for yourself.

    • @briannaolivia5640
      @briannaolivia5640 3 роки тому +9

      @@kaylinwhite6584 stfu respectfully 🤫

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому

      Nope.

    • @cathiegans2718
      @cathiegans2718 3 роки тому +5

      @@kaylinwhite6584 their parents were powerful and wealthy the only way they could escape this torture (in their minds) was by getting rid of them you weren't there, you didn't experience this and you need to STFU not respectfully (:

    • @miaparral49
      @miaparral49 3 роки тому +4

      @@kaylinwhite6584 yeah they don't commit murder cause they have other ways to get away from it, But the menendez Brothers didn't, they didn't have other options.
      if u were getting abused and ur only chose was to die or kill ur abuser I bet u would kill them.

  • @sueg3783
    @sueg3783 3 роки тому +35

    I am now a single mother of a 29 year old boy. If these brothers didn't do this out of retribution and to punish their parents, why would they admit it and be incarcerated for 27 years now. If they are not telling the truth, why would they lie. I feel sorry but am not sure of their complete innocence. I think their case should be re-opened again!! They deserve another trial!

  • @lightludy5127
    @lightludy5127 3 роки тому +10

    oh god this took 4 years for a part 2

  • @ciararamsaran1080
    @ciararamsaran1080 2 роки тому +5

    To this day it's still so sad these brothers need justice

  • @notrealatall196
    @notrealatall196 2 роки тому +14

    Such an eye opener. U wouldn't assume there's this level of abuse in affluent houses. Somehow everyone needs to be aware of how criminals can walk around in normal appearance. Child abuse of even atrocious nature could occur in seemingly normal households.

  • @daisyjoongie
    @daisyjoongie 2 роки тому +10

    it’s like they’re covering up and using the brothers bad habits like stealing as an excuse to cover up that they were abused their entire lives to make the case of them being “guilty” stronger

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +2

      let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

    • @daisyjoongie
      @daisyjoongie 2 роки тому +1

      @@IamGaby yeah to be honest i don’t think they should be FREE either you know, because at the end of the day, they did murder two people whether it was for good or bad. but people calling them “animals” and “coldblooded” just doesnt sit right w me…

    • @tanyamyrie5375
      @tanyamyrie5375 2 роки тому +1

      @@IamGaby common sense, the mother was also killed because she condoned with it!

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +1

      @@tanyamyrie5375 which would throw out their whole self defense case if you are saying she got killed because she condoned the behavior. It turns it to premeditated. Soooo not sure what point you were trying to make

  • @Ytbsjsns
    @Ytbsjsns 3 роки тому +44

    they literally drove by Kim and Kanye’s house at 0:55 someone needs to get this to Kim so she can free them😭

  • @lyleerikll8370
    @lyleerikll8370 3 роки тому +7

    But we don’t mention the sexual abuse!?🤣 this video is pathetic. If your going to ‘inform’ people about this case.. do it right.

  • @honeydewcandy919
    @honeydewcandy919 3 роки тому +14

    they are victims, not monsters.
    just like gypsy rose, they were scared and abused and felt trapped and needed to be freed anyway possible.
    these “criminals” need to be freed, in my opinion. they were tortured and abused in all ways possible, they went threw stuff no human should ever go threw.

    • @nikmadic8363
      @nikmadic8363 2 роки тому

      The parents got what they deserved. These brothers needs to be free. They did nothing wrong

  • @vitalyzed9006
    @vitalyzed9006 3 роки тому +3

    0:54 “when he was bruce jenner🌚hehe” THAT JUS CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD😭😂

  • @anaisnein
    @anaisnein 3 роки тому +14

    A NORMAL kid does not go into a store and DEMAND service while standing on a table and throwing things around.

    • @lunnadelmar3400
      @lunnadelmar3400 3 роки тому +4

      they were kids they act by instinct this is the parents fault for raising them wrong and im glad they killed their horrible abusive parent

  • @F1AKX
    @F1AKX 3 роки тому +8

    0:50 why she do my boy Bruce like that💀💀

  • @1242karen
    @1242karen 3 роки тому +6

    the justice system isn't the epitome of unfair and wrong

  • @reina.8116
    @reina.8116 3 роки тому +24

    I don’t think they heard very well “ they’ve been RAPED “ by their parents they didn’t just kill their parents on purpose &’ faked crying about rape , that’s not something to joke about especially when your in a court room with a lot of people .

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +1

      let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Рік тому

      @@IamGaby Why do you copy/paste the same comment?

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby Рік тому

      @@Muirmaiden whatever you say it does not justify murder. Thousands of kids are abused on a daily not resulting in murder. These were grown men when they killed their parents. Stop justifying something that isn’t. I could understand if say the dad lunged at them and they shot a gun. Their father was sitting in a couch and was shot behind the head execution style. TF are you ignoring facts or you just pick and choose what you want to hear. Get a grip man. They are jail and they are never getting out. Get over it

  • @cameltoe4927
    @cameltoe4927 3 роки тому +10

    Those who gave the brothers prison proved that rape and abused are ok to do. That's why it's still happening. I feel sorry for the judge and prosecutor who has to carry the burden all his life and is resposible to other children who are still being raped and abused by their sick parents. Such judges and prosecutors and policemen and politicians will get richly hot in hell and here on earth too for sure.

    • @exxtraterestial
      @exxtraterestial 2 роки тому +1

      The system is fucked up

    • @iwantmyplaylist
      @iwantmyplaylist 2 роки тому +3

      I think the system is trying to tell victims of abuse that using violence to “solve” the pain is not the right way… Their parents’ abusive behaviour is not right but to react to the abuse with killing is also not right.

  • @A.M-b8t
    @A.M-b8t 3 місяці тому +1

    "They commited burglary !" Oh wow, yeah, burglary is so much more severe than, I dunno, raping your own sons for years beginning when they were CHILDREN, mentally abusing them until they were broken and hitting them with a belt ? They should have gotten punished for their misdemeanors appropriately and Jose should have been the one going to JAIL for life !

  • @timileyinola531
    @timileyinola531 2 роки тому +2

    Bruce Jenner…when he was Bruce Jenner😂😂

  • @lilghos-t5122
    @lilghos-t5122 2 роки тому +1

    why is this world so messed up man

  • @aubreys1559
    @aubreys1559 2 роки тому +6

    Free them and let them get the one life we have. They just need help! 😢

  • @kongdong04
    @kongdong04 3 роки тому +5

    Bruce Jenner sent me😂💀💀💀

  • @renatam33
    @renatam33 3 роки тому +4

    say it with me.
    re open this case!

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +1

      No point

  • @wisconsinrebelhomes7587
    @wisconsinrebelhomes7587 Рік тому +1

    That 90s Show brought me here!

  • @NevaehMarie-p2z
    @NevaehMarie-p2z 3 роки тому +3

    these poor men had their childhood stolen and they were abused and belittled by these evil people but they're making them seem like monsters when they were just trying escape hell.

  • @heavenclear4327
    @heavenclear4327 Рік тому +2

    Their "parents" deserved what they got. Hope they rot in hell.
    Release those victims already!

  • @rhoannadadaria561
    @rhoannadadaria561 2 роки тому +3

    Okay but I'm really bothered how unprofessional and judgemental the old lady interviewer is...

  • @JamesLee-sl4er
    @JamesLee-sl4er 3 роки тому +5

    Erik reminds me of a young Ben Stiller

  • @naeco1602
    @naeco1602 2 роки тому +10

    I strongly agree that this case should be reopened. Sounds like their parents just became parents so that they have their children whom they can abuse and control. I can't imagine all the despicable things they went through in the hands of their father. It's shocking and heartbreaking when you found out that your own mother knows everything from the start and didn't do anything about it. The betrayal is unforgivable. I think killing them was the only thing they thought that could help them escape from their abusers. Therefore It shouldve been a self defense not a murder.

  • @johnathonhanvidge5231
    @johnathonhanvidge5231 Рік тому +1

    So sad for these guys 🙏

  • @roseyleetea6472
    @roseyleetea6472 3 роки тому +6

    WE MEED A PART 3

  • @tyheclayton473
    @tyheclayton473 2 роки тому +2

    No normal parents would do that to their child

  • @benhurechavari5997
    @benhurechavari5997 3 роки тому +6

    IT WAS SELF DEFENSE. THEY NEED JUSTICE.

  • @nayelitorres4147
    @nayelitorres4147 3 роки тому +2

    But if it was a women she would only get a few years or no time at all and live her life right ? World fucked up .

  • @viiprzz
    @viiprzz 3 роки тому +8

    imagine deadnaming someone and laughing 😳

    • @dampgoat
      @dampgoat 2 роки тому

      Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this

  • @saraschutte7389
    @saraschutte7389 7 днів тому +1

    Barbara Wawa is disgusting. She hasn’t experienced abuse, and shames them so ignorantly. She is not a journalist.
    I saw genuine emotion in the brother’s testimony. They should get a second chance at life.

  • @biohacker7968
    @biohacker7968 2 роки тому +3

    I think they are victims but they should talk to their grandparents or another family member.... Sorry!

  • @yezenchan
    @yezenchan 3 роки тому +2

    he IS a normal kid. what they did to him wasn’t normal and he didn’t want that to continue anymore so he didn’t have a choice but to do what he did. it was the only way for it to stop. that was so disrespectful of the interviewer to insult him wtf.

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому

      let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

  • @effy1954
    @effy1954 2 роки тому +4

    SET THEM FREE THEY ARE VICTIMS

  • @carmelruka105
    @carmelruka105 2 роки тому +1

    They are the way they are because of what they were exposed to while they were still young. And their inner child needs to heal. What that man did to his OWN sons is disgusting.

  • @ashleaclawson9657
    @ashleaclawson9657 3 роки тому +2

    Bruce Jenner when he was Bruce Jenner🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tyhugtuu406
    @tyhugtuu406 3 роки тому +2

    that’s so upsetting bro

  • @monakool1708
    @monakool1708 2 роки тому

    Going to jail for killing your abuser means the justice system failed you.

  • @SoWhat007
    @SoWhat007 2 роки тому +3

    Barbara walter had no place to speak to them the way she did. They felt bad enough, she didn't need to be so accusatory. And for her to question them being "normal kids," was very cold. They obviously weren't normal children, they were abused. It can be seen that they are trying to believe they were normal kids because they didn't grow up with a healthy childhood. All in all, absolutely unfortunate how some parents have to put their own children through hell and give themselves the right to be abusive towards them. Sorry to say it, but those abusers got what they deserved. If these brothers had gone to the police, the parents would have paid their way out. Sometimes people have to take justice into their own hands.

  • @billcipher6996
    @billcipher6996 7 днів тому +1

    I wonder how many other victims of sexual abuse their father had??

  • @spike16965
    @spike16965 4 дні тому

    Their parents are at fault for not giving them boundaries and consequences. How they were raised is what made them who they are.

  • @Jay-sl7jp
    @Jay-sl7jp 3 роки тому +6

    abuse isn't a free ticket for murder, this case doesn't need to be re-opened, justice was served.

    • @renatam33
      @renatam33 3 роки тому +1

      there parents are horrible people. they don’t deserve this. set them free!

    • @Jay-sl7jp
      @Jay-sl7jp 3 роки тому +2

      @@renatam33 they do deserve life in prison yes, u don’t take someone’s life bc of “abuse”

    • @jakemoreh6144
      @jakemoreh6144 2 роки тому

      @@Jay-sl7jp whether or not you agree with the sentence, what do you mean by “abuse?” Why not just simply say abuse

  • @circusbaby_lolXD
    @circusbaby_lolXD 2 роки тому +1

    Lyle was like his dad. He did to his brother what dad showed them it's what u do in power. The bond they have is not bad. The parents were bad. Everyone loses.

  • @missjem79
    @missjem79 3 роки тому +25

    Robert Blake. Yikes. That's another one that was interesting. Maybe Calabasas attracts psychos.

  • @DarkLight026
    @DarkLight026 4 дні тому +1

    There should be a retrial..

  • @Wipsplash
    @Wipsplash 3 роки тому +16

    28 years defined by a day he says. How about someones loss of life defined by that day.

    • @graciemurgia5469
      @graciemurgia5469 3 роки тому +13

      Do you not understand both of them were sexually abused? They did it as a reaction to the trauma

    • @i_A691
      @i_A691 3 роки тому +5

      Hun you should watch the interviews and see how they got treated and then speak it was horrible

    • @Wipsplash
      @Wipsplash 3 роки тому +1

      @@i_A691 I understand what you are saying but everyone is in control of their own decisions and actions. It is best when a person is able to remove themselves from a toxic situation. I do feel for them in this situation but sometimes you just have to walk away from something bad and start your own new path towards something good. Any path that leads to someone being murdered is a horrible situation.

    • @i_A691
      @i_A691 3 роки тому +4

      @@Wipsplash I understand you too but getting raped and sexually assaulted continuously since their childhood Is traumatising and I think if you were in their position you would do the same but I guess it’s your opinion

    • @Wipsplash
      @Wipsplash 3 роки тому

      @@i_A691 No hate here but you shouldn't assume my life has been pleasant. I am now old enough to better understand things emotionally. It is sad that it takes peoples entire life times to understand things. People have 2 paths in life. Take vengeance or push on even though difficult times and ultimately end up with the life they always have wished for.

  • @tracygonglik936
    @tracygonglik936 2 роки тому +1

    Sad situation all.around I believe the sons testimony that there was abused no one can sit there and testify like that it was purely genuine

  • @Linda-yb7kz
    @Linda-yb7kz 3 роки тому +2

    that little bruce jenner comment was weird

    • @sn4rr
      @sn4rr 3 роки тому

      I winced

  • @dani-ol5xb
    @dani-ol5xb 2 роки тому +1

    If this happened today what would the outcome have been?

  • @kendrickburris2139
    @kendrickburris2139 3 роки тому +8

    I honestly believe the reason they recieved life in prison is due to what they did after the killings, showing no remorse by going on a lavish spending spree. If it wasnt for those factors I think the abuse would have been more into play in the judges decision making. Just my opinion, but im open for discussion.

    • @kaylinwhite6584
      @kaylinwhite6584 3 роки тому +1

      I concur!

    • @deed2303
      @deed2303 2 роки тому +1

      I just read one of the most longest article ever, which states that the prosecution had proven there was premeditation.... And that one of the brothers had lied.

    • @selenaaaaas
      @selenaaaaas 2 роки тому +2

      I agree completely ! They had a full fledged plan and they executed it pretty flawlessly honestly and Lyle specifically had no plan on telling on himself or Erik . He was basically livid when he found out Erik told .

    • @at_2527
      @at_2527 2 роки тому

      The only options for sentencing was the death penalty or life without parole. There were no other options the jury could consider once the verdict was first degree murder. The most the abuse evidence was able to do was give them lwop instead of lethal injection.
      The spending spree does not necessarily indicate a lack of remorse. People spend money for lots of reasons, especially people who live in Beverly Hills and are used to spending tons of money regularly. Their own mother was known to shop when she was depressed.

  • @zeenatbatenga2717
    @zeenatbatenga2717 2 роки тому +2

    "I'm a normal kid" he still thinks he's a kid..he never got to live past August 1989

    • @jstephenj
      @jstephenj 2 роки тому +1

      "I'm a noral kid" he still thinks that murdering his parents does not rise above ransacking houses, like they were busted for doing in Calabasas. They escaped prison sentences because their father sprang into action and bought them out of those binds. In my opinion, they took all the wrong lessons to heart from that incident.

  • @reyrey5259
    @reyrey5259 3 роки тому

    “Bruce Jenner …when he was Bruce Jenner”😂

  • @iyanaharris3467
    @iyanaharris3467 3 роки тому +2

    ii mean you have to justify this , no it isnt right to kill but i mean that was the ONLY OPTION bcs the dad would have killed them if they told anyone so i mean yeah its wrong but dont you think after all they suffered through after all of thhat pain and hurt in both of theyre heart that they deserve to get theyre life sentence jurrasically changed bcs i mean they have basically been in prison theyre whole life , this hurts my heart sooo much

  • @elenaocampo4273
    @elenaocampo4273 3 роки тому +4

    Gypsy Rose Blanchard needs her case re opened too :(

  • @ihategiyuutanshippershun4421
    @ihategiyuutanshippershun4421 3 роки тому

    1:41 "he was pretty 𝙛𝙡𝙖𝙢𝙗𝙤𝙮𝙖𝙣𝙩"
    Me : "𝙐𝙕𝙐𝙄 𝙏𝙀𝙉𝙂𝙀𝙉 𝙄𝙎 𝙏𝙃𝘼𝙏 𝙔𝙊𝙐!??? "

  • @honeybadger1847
    @honeybadger1847 3 роки тому +17

    I grew up with charming, narcissistic sociopaths, one of whom is now serving a life sentence. He has followers, fans, groupies who believe in his innocence. These folks consider me a villain for testifying against him; they have made my life miserable.

  • @mikescott3571
    @mikescott3571 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @loofah.1123
    @loofah.1123 2 роки тому +3

    What they went through was undeniably the cause of their crimes, but that doesn't change the fact that they committed crimes. Instead of life in prison I'd say lower the sentence, but they should still go to prison for what they did. So many people were abused by their parents, but not everyone kills their parents or chooses to lead a life of crime.

  • @fercho3689
    @fercho3689 2 роки тому +1

    When he said normal lady, he meant that problem like us see them as spoiled brats because they had everything, they weren’t poor kids. however, I’m his eyes being rich was normal because that’s all he knew, that’s how he was rise. - he was answering the questions about how people see them for being spoil.

  • @jessicahaufiku3089
    @jessicahaufiku3089 2 роки тому +2

    I'm crying for this boys. I'm crying 😭.

  • @jlb7741
    @jlb7741 3 роки тому +7

    "An eye for an eye." Why are they still alive in prison?

    • @master.jeremiah
      @master.jeremiah 3 роки тому +1

      I hate internet bc of stupid like you

    • @sylocke9964
      @sylocke9964 3 роки тому

      Maybe watch all the parts before you comment something stupid like this.

  • @theoblongbox4909
    @theoblongbox4909 6 днів тому

    The video is called Inside The Menendez Movement, but it spends precious little time talking about that. Instead we get a long backstory on the parents, which we don't really need or want, unless you're going to talk about the father and his allegations of also abusing the boys in boy band Menudo.

  • @karenacton3854
    @karenacton3854 3 роки тому +8

    This is what ‘affluent” kids look like. Of the opinion they fall under a different set of rules and laws.

  • @markireland7541
    @markireland7541 3 роки тому

    The way he keeps smiling is something I’ll never understand

  • @charlottebarnes6761
    @charlottebarnes6761 2 роки тому +3

    Let those boys out of jail.then get them help

    • @jstephenj
      @jstephenj 2 роки тому +1

      They can get all the counseling they want at Donovan Corrections Facility. Why deprive them of that avenue of help when it's literally a few cell blocks away.

  • @iSwEedE
    @iSwEedE 3 роки тому +2

    what struck me most was when the narrator said "group of surbuban kids that were dreaming the fantasy of commiting a crime". when i think of that statement i think of innocent black kids that are jailed for something as small as stealing a piece of gum

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому +2

      That is no where near the same.

  • @nataliemeenakshithegreat7780
    @nataliemeenakshithegreat7780 3 роки тому +12

    Éric is so handsome easy to fall in love with him

    • @shawty.413
      @shawty.413 3 роки тому +4

      ikrrr i feel so bad for him and his brother .

    • @IamGaby
      @IamGaby 2 роки тому

      You are sick

  • @Muirmaiden
    @Muirmaiden 2 роки тому +3

    4:57 - "All I know is they both got probation, they gave the stuff back", Craig Cignarelli says regarding the burglaries - funny how he never mentions that he was also involved in at least one of those burglaries

    • @at_2527
      @at_2527 Рік тому +1

      Isn't it also true that the brothers tried to return some stuff before even getting caught?

  • @juan99101
    @juan99101 3 роки тому

    ok if this is part 2, why did they take 5 years to premier since part 1???????????

  • @anaisnein
    @anaisnein 3 роки тому +3

    They don't know any better!!! How will they not be convicts outside!!

  • @MakeTimeNow
    @MakeTimeNow 4 дні тому

    The attitude that they weren't abused because they were rich or because they were boys is wild to me. Makes me think that this is happening a lot more to a lot of executives and celebrities children. Otherwise, why the cavalier attitude towards the massive amounts of abuse these brothers sustained at the hands of their father and mother? They were deeply abused. They were RAPED. They wanted to escape their abuser. Should they have killed them? No. But there are extenuating circumstances. They shouldn't be life in prison x2 for murder. They should have been tried for manslaughter and they might be free and able to start over in the real world. 35 years is a long time.

  • @scrappppy7155
    @scrappppy7155 3 роки тому +11

    FIRST BOIIIIIIIIII!

  • @char6081
    @char6081 3 роки тому +1

    This video portrayed them so badly

  • @aboywithadreambutendedindi295
    @aboywithadreambutendedindi295 3 роки тому +4

    NOT ABOUT THE BOYS BUT JOHNNY DEPP 🥺

  • @relaxingandstressreliefvid7727
    @relaxingandstressreliefvid7727 3 роки тому +4

    Free themmmmmmm

  • @annadembowska1160
    @annadembowska1160 2 роки тому +1

    I am glad someone start this movement

  • @brucesturton8521
    @brucesturton8521 3 роки тому +7

    Two young men that everything going for them.

    • @olivianewman6661
      @olivianewman6661 3 роки тому +14

      everything going for them? they were abused.

    • @brucesturton8521
      @brucesturton8521 3 роки тому +1

      @@olivianewman6661 I heard they were abused, I also heard they weren't, I don't know i wasn't there. But, if they were why didn't they report it instead of murdering their parents. There were no winners there.

    • @olivianewman6661
      @olivianewman6661 3 роки тому +6

      @@brucesturton8521 first of all, do you know who the parents were? No one would believe the boys and they threatened to kill them if they said anything to anyone. watch their trials, the trauma is evident and there is photographic evidence also that his father had child porn of both the brothers. The media just wanted to paint the picture that they murdered their parents out of greed and they wanted money when they were just 2 scared and traumatised men who suffered years and years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse along with emotional and physical neglect at times.

    • @brucesturton8521
      @brucesturton8521 3 роки тому +1

      @@olivianewman6661 didn't they buy a porche shortly after their parents died. I wish they had of tried a different way to handle it. Why didn't their lawyer push that they were abused. To get a lighter sentence for them.

    • @olivianewman6661
      @olivianewman6661 3 роки тому +5

      @@brucesturton8521 watch the trials here on yt, court tv posted them, they are long videos though, the lawyers asked a lot of questions about the abuse in the trials and I think that was the attempt they made but I don't think it worked in the brothers favour