My 3 Month Testosterone Results Before & After | TRT Over 40 (Life Updates)
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- In this video, I'm sharing my three month results taking testosterone replacement therapy. I'm not a doctor, I'm simple sharing my experience.
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I am 67. I started TRT through Peter MD about two months ago. In just a few days after starting, my mental alertness skyrocketed, and my energy is much better. My memory loss has been eliminated. I’ve purposely lost 75 pounds since January, and the TRT is helping with that. Although I’m a widower (1 1/2 years now) after 45 great years with my wife, ED has corrected without anymore little blue pills. Never thought I’d even look for companionship again, but my rejuvenated body has frankly caused me start…exploring again. 😮
I plan to post here after my next labs to provide a comparison.
Love it Russ! Thanks for sharing!
What dose are you on?
Happy smashing Russ!
Proper trt use 👍
I’m 62 and got my first injection this morning. My t level was 210 and the creams and gels weren’t taking any affect. I tried self injections but kept botching it up.
So I finally got my urologist to just give me the injection every 14 days. I’m praying this works. Keep me posted. Thanks.
Thank you for the update; I bet more people care about you and your well-being than you might think. Thank you for all of your content; it has really helped me.
I appreciate that! Thank you! :)
I’ve gained loads of good stuff from you. Being forced to replace my wardrobe after significant weight loss, finding your videos was timely for me. I don’t really care about impressing anyone, but the compliments keep rolling in. I continue to receive comments like ‘you are sure looking great with your keen sense of fashion’ (or something like that). It’s changed my life for the better. Keep it up, John.
Thank you!
You keep it up also, but yes, isn't it great when those comments come.
Greatly appreciate you opening up with your personal journey. Very helpful in many ways. Thanks John.
I appreciate that!!
I always appreciate your life updates John! Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
Glad to see it's working for you! Two days ago, I got my blood work results after one year on TRT (2x per week). Starting test levels were 239; latest was 993 (24.3 free test). The only levels that were out of kilter were slightly high estradiol, which comes with higher test levels, and my LDL/HDL levels, which are soooo slightly off but improving. Triglyceride levels were amazing!
At 60, in one year I've lost 20 lbs total, gained 9 lbs of muscle and seen my energy levels increase dramatically. I'm stronger than I've ever been. Plus, my libido has been energized. It may not be for everyone, but older guys should get educated and consider the option.
Glad to hear it! Congratulations!
Thank you for the video.
It was helpful in the sense as well because others made comments about their own TRT Journey and it answered questions I was interested in that now do not need to be asked.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Hi John, thank you for the great video, My doc just started me on TRT (doing my first shot today) and this was some great information and perspective. He Also stressed that it's not a magic pill but something that can help with getting my vitality back. I still have to put in the work and I am planning on it. Now I'm going to have to check out the rest of your stuff. Thanks again!
You’re very welcome! Appreciate your comment!
John! I love these more "real and off the cuff" type videos. So good my man. #legend
Legend! Thanks Eric!
Thanks for the update John, was wondering how you were doing with this. Just started mine 3 weeks ago.
Best of luck! Get another blood panel after 3 months.
Keep it up John!!
Great content as always! I appreciate you.
You rock! Thank you!
Hi John, nice relaxed presentation, you should do more of the spontaneous stuff! I have a full blood test every year now so I can compare my blood values, which are important to general health. From personal experience, recommend next time you include the Prostate Specific Antigen test (PSA) to keep tabs on your prostate, especially for those of us over 50. My last blood test showed up highly elevated values for PSA as I had inflammation of my prostate. We don't much like to talk about this subject but the fact is our prostate continues to grow. I personally highly recommend doing this test for peace of mind as with early diagnosis its treatable and curable.
Thanks Ray! PSA was good. 1.180. Range is 0.000 to 4.000.
Thanks for the update
Thank you so much for the update.
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing John.
You bet! Thanks for watching Ron!
Hey John! I like how open and forthright you are. Very natural, comfortable, organic video. It’s an invitation to your home and you so thank you. Question: Have you noticed any increase in strength at the gym since you started TRT?
My workout routine hasn’t been consistent, so it’s kind of tough to say at this point. I will say that my mood, focus, motivation, and energy have all increased for the better.
YES! Your strength will absolutely increase.
Just in time. I made my 1st appointment for TRT. Hoping it goes well. This video and the bros in comment definitely has me pumped up about the treatment.
Good man!
I started TRT about two years ago. I’ve lost about 10lbs without working out. My shoulders, pecks, traps, and arms got noticeably bigger. I donate blood every 2 months to Redcross. Just had my bi-annual blood work. Doctor said she loves my numbers. I started with test levels in the 220’s I’m in the 860’s consistently now. The best part is my mental health is frigging awesome. Zero anxiety, depression etc. I inject 20 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Good stuff I recommend every guy over 40 to get tested
Thank you!
😊 I have been on TRT for the past 5 years. The only negative is my hair loss. 😢
I concur 1000% unfortunately I started Test. with my Doc and got a CPAP sleep machine the same week( cant separate which had a bigger effect)I feel 30 again! I only give myself a shot every 2 weeks, the last 2 days I can feel a little sluggish but 90% better than before. my iron gets high, i donate blood to red cross and they are happy to take it. Get checked men!!
Any hair loss?
Why not workout thought?
Good for you, John. Take care and enjoy life.
Thanks, you too!
Great video thanks
Thanks for the videos, I'm looking into TRT again, but Im heavily leaning toward Enclomiphine for myself, right now. Crazy, im in TN but my Jiu Jitsu instructor and his family are from Temecula. Glad I found your channel!
Clomid is not a long term strategy. Short term yes.
@etfremd Not actual Clomid but enclomiphene without the zuclomephene. But yes I realize I may have to go full TRT in a few more years, but likely not necessary yet.
Who is your BJJ instructor?
Ramble videos are always good. Best for listening to between meetings, don't have to pay much attention to the video feed, kinda like listening to a podcast.
Noted! Thanks for watching!
Hello John, thank you for all you do, your videos have been a real inspiration for me to upgrade my style and I'm now getting a lot of compliments from beautiful women! I have lost about 25 lbs. using intermittent fasting. Funny I have started my own sober October birthday month 66 years old on the 19th., so far so good! Thank you, Fritz from Riverside, Calif.
Rock on Fritz! Thank you!
Great video. Before starting TRT, really consult with someone about your bloodwork as well as your total health., consider certain lifestyle choices that can impact your hormonal profile.
At 50 I was noticing I could not keep the same body composition, regardless what I tried. Felt a lack of libido. Saw all the hype of TRT and possible symptoms for considered usage. Got my blood tested. My total T was at 984, but my SHGB was 127. Basically this high SHGB was killing my free T. Was already taking Boron, Ashwagandha, and Tonka Ali to attempt to lower SHGB. Clearly not making a dent.
Decided to try TRT and get my total T up to basically crush SHGB and increase my free T ratio. Over about 9 months definitely saw some benefits, but also saw some negative side effects like high blood pressure, worried about elevated DHT .
Was doing additional research and found that extended intermittent fasting and extended restriction of carbs can raise SHGB (these levels also increase naturally as we age). I had been doing IF for years and reaped the benefits of keeping my body fat % below 13% or lower during summer.
Decided to stop IF tweak my diet and retest blood after 3 months. Low and behold SHGB dropped to the 30's, in the lower range of normal.
Decided to get off TRT and cycled some supplements to help jumpstart my natural production. Blood work at 3 months post last TRT dose had be back at 913 and SHGB at 37. Felt amazing again.
Just my story, but may provide one of your viewers that TRT is a great option if you need it, but also look at the total picture before making the call.
Peter Attia talked about that as insulin drops SHBG goes up. What was your free T? Interesting we all have to find what works for us individually.
If you were 50 and your total T was 984 you were injecting test bro.
I'm all here for the content and these health videos as well. I started my transformation about 5-6 months ago and I've lost about 20-25lbs. I have a long way to go and I've been maintaining my weight as well, so my plan is to refocus on my weight training and nutrition again. I'm also not getting into the Testosterone issue yet, but once i turn 40 I'll look into it. Also, for the Q&A, What would be the best route regarding updating your wardrobe while losing weight? Buy a few select pieces as you lose weight or just buy stuff for now and then buy more when the weight comes off?
Thank you! The problem will be finding things in your current wardrobe that fit well. I think it’s totally OK to pick up a few pieces as you move along.
Nice one. So important to diagnose yourself
Been on it for 7 years and it changed my life. I get bloodwork 2-3 times a year under an MD supervision. I have lost & kept off approx. 20 pounds, built more muscle and have strong focus and motivation.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing Robert!
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Please keep us posted on your trt journey. I'm convinced I am in need of this therapy. I am 55 and exhausted within a few hours of waking up. Dr said testosterone level is normal at 340?
I watch my diet, use to hit the gym can no longer do so because of no energy,
Feels like I'm dying a slow death and dont like it so these videos are very helpful.
At 55 a level of 340 is normal. With TRT you could get that up to say 500-550 and potentially feel better. But unless you feel crap, why risk side effects?
I'm not a doctor, but I'm just thinking 340 might be perfectly normal for one person aged 55 and very low for another person aged 55. I'd speak to my doctor, and see if you need to be at a higher level. Perhaps 340 is low for you and not for someone else. You have to go by how you feel, not necessarily just on what a bunch of numbers say.
THANK YOU 4 THIS! this is very close to me
Started Trt last year I'm 58 and it has vastly improved my wellbeing feel good in body and mind I suppose it's not for everyone but I impressed
What’s up John. I’m glad you did this one! I took out my paperwork and compare mine with yours about the same. I use a liquid vitamin D/K2 BY Thorne works pretty good. And your right it sucks doing it every week but I’m used to it! Lol. I’m out here in Scottsdale myself. Love your videos I’m learning a lot of different Fashion styles.
Thank you!
I’ve been on trt for five years. About four years ago I switched my protocol to injecting subcutaneously every other day. I can’t tell you how much better this protocol has been. First, no big needles and no pain at all. Second, I avoid the spikes and troughs. Even if you don’t think you are having issues with ups and downs, you are. Best of luck!
Interesting Keith! Another friend of mine is doing something similar. He’s using insulin needles and they’re so much smaller.
@@40OverFashion Yup. The insulin syringes are so tiny that you can’t feel the shot. Plus, you aren’t stabbing the same muscle over and over again. Drawing the fluid into the small syringe takes a couple of minutes, but I feel fantastic on the steady dose. Doing the once weekly IM injection also makes the lab work trickier. If you test the day after you inject, your TT and FT will be very high. If you test right before you inject, the values will be lowish. Tough to dial in the best dose. When you inject every other day, everything is relatively steady. Also, there is some good research that sub q is better than IM. Anyway, if you’re method is working, good for you!
@@keithosorio6301really the only thing better is a daily injection. Do it in the evening before bed and the peak after the injection occurs 10-12 hours later matching the natural diurnal rhythm.
Don't worry about the 0.3 and the 0.6 over on normal range. It can be affected by time of day, food, or forgive me excretions. Keep doing what you're doing - you're fit and healthy John
Appreciate you!
@@40OverFashion You too John
Congratulations on your numbers 👊😎
Much appreciated!
At our age it is important not to lose muscle. Glad you are doing great
Thank you!
I go to get my bloodwork done with PETERMD this week as well. I’m 47 and since was around 41, I have seen myself decline body wise, mentally, socially etc… I have to eat perfectly and workout to even get minor weight loss results. I know I have low T and I’m gonna fix it. My next 40 years will be way better than my last 6-7 years
That's the spirit !
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for video . What are your weekly dosages ?
100mg
@@40OverFashion Thank you. At what point after you started did you feel noticeable changes? Increased energy/libido, etc....
@@sculnan Libido has never been a problem. I'd say it's a gradual increase. I didn't notice anything for about 5-6 weeks.
Thank you for posting this and your other video. Details on what you tested, your levels before and after and what normal ranges are is great!!
My pleasure!
I started TRT about 9 using the same syringe/needle/vial combination that John talks about in the video. While I never had a problem with this method, it wasn't always the most convenient in terms of getting the measurement right, inection placement, traveling with supplies, etc. About a year ago, I switched to Xyosted. If you've ever seen an Epi-Pen, that's exactly what this looks like. It's already measured out, you never see a needle, and it's virtually painless. You inject it into your belly fat next to you navel, and I won't lie, you don't feel it. It's hurt more to pinch your fat than the injection itself. No mess, no fuss. It's truly been a game changer for me!
do you get lumps where you inject?
What's the cost?
@@400exCrf450rRider Every few injections I may get a slight bump, but it’s usually gone within a day or so. What I’ll typically do is slightly massage the injection area for a couple of seconds to kind of even out the solution under the skin. I have some area on my belly area, so any bump is fairly hidden. I also alternate between the left side and right side of my navel, so if there were ever a slight bump, it’s completely gone two weeks later when I do the next injection on that side (this is a weekly protocol)
@@linemanap I’m not sure what the actual cost of the medication is, since my insurance covers it, minus a $40 copay. I did have to get a pre-authorization from the insurance company to have it covered.
@@tomdyer3511 do you get lumps where you inject?
Your friend is spot on about iron, John. Men shouldn't take any supplemental iron (unless specifically directed to do so by their physician) as it raises the risk of cardiovascular problems (and promote certain forms of cancer growth if you already have it). Speaking of which...the Vitamin D formula you are taking may actually improve both cardiovascular health and immunity. Vitamin K2 (as MK7) is very helpful for removing arterial calcium and sending it back into bones (where it's needed). And your Vitamin D levels are perfect. There are multiple studies stating Vitamin D can help ward off respiratory infections (PubMed). Glad to hear you're doing well!
Thank you very much!
I’m also not a medical professional but here it goes.
Genetic mutations in the hemochromatosis gene (HFE) make up the most common genetic cause of elevated ferritin levels and are usually seen in Caucasian patients with northern European ancestors.
Ferritin and also iron. You can get tested for ferritin by a simple blood test. Your levels weren’t too high so you might be like me with only a single copy of the mutation. Men’s multivitamins generally don’t have iron and women’s generally does. Women often don’t notice the problem until menopause, for obvious reasons.
@@40OverFashionhow much vitamin D are you taking? Your level is very good! Should improve immunity and allergies. My allergist has me taking Vitamin D. And it’s working.
John, what about a video segment, or series even, of you interviewing some guys who’ve undergone a hair transplant, both FUE and FUT, as I’m sure with a bunch of your followers over 40 that many of us are dealing with male pattern baldness; I bring this up because I just had a consultation today and learned a lot about it, and thought it was interesting, but was taken aback by the cost; but it would be interesting to talk to these people and see if was worth it to them, did they get the results they wanted, etc.
Great video! A question: was your blood taken at the peak or in a trough, so I mean right before the next administration or not?? Thanks
If I remember, it was 5 days after the shot.
@@40OverFashionThanks for your response! 👍🏻 And what was exactly your TRT protocol? How many mg per week and how many injections per week?
@@40OverFashion Mid-cycle. That's the right time to do it.
Enjoyed the video. I recently had bloodwork and my testosterone level was in the 30's I am going to start a regiment here in a couple weeks. I was hoping to gain some energy from it and I'm thinking it's so low I might get an energy boost. Fingers crossed
Best of luck!
30 ng/dL or 30 nmol/L?
Big fan of these check in videos... Keep 'em coming!!! Thanks, John!
Thanks, will do! Thanks!
Free test is the more important when trying to get into shape or build muscle. Also how is your mental state. Should be better as well. All the best with your journey.
Overall, mental has increased. It’s not a magic pill, and it doesn’t turn you into a superhero, but it definitely helps.
Hey John, I’ve had hair loss in my 20’s. 2 Fue procedures and on finasteride. Would try cause additional hair loss? or would I be covered being on finasteride?
Hi John very informative video I really like the style of these they are more organic and don’t feel ‘staged’. I am 58 and thinking of doing testosterone things but everyone I ask tells me negative things about it like bad for your liver etc. can you tell me any negatives that you’ve heard ? Also I don’t think it’s as easy to get my hands on here in the UK. Anyway, I watch all your videos and they are great and really help my self confidence. Cheers mate and take care 👍
See your doctor. Daily injections are the best! But too many doctors don’t understand!
Injecting testosterone shouldn't bother your liver, but bloodwork every 3 months with a check on ALT will confirm. Taking T tablets will be hard on your liver.
I’m in pharma and have extensive knowledge of testosterone. 343 is extremely low. Good for you for taking control.
Thank you!
In your opinion, is 299 too low for a 31 year old? I know it differs but I feel horrible.
You should be around 500 to 1000 total T. There's a lot more that goes into the number so if you feel like crap get a blood test.
I dispute that. It's pretty normal for that age. I agree that you want about say 450 ng/dL to be in the golden zone, but in the absence of any symptoms, you can't just say "343 is extremely low".
Great video! I get an annual hormone panel blood test done, everything still fine at 47. I always urge guys to work on sleep, stress, drinking less alcohol, working out and eating less crap first THEN getting bloodwork done - if Test still low after all that then TRT is a good option IMO. My issue is with guys having self-inflicted low Test from cr*ppy lifestyle yet jumping on TRT unnecessarily.
Great point! Appreciate your comment!
Thanks for the update. I've got an appointment with my doctor on Friday and if he's not willing to check my blood then I'll be getting a new doctor. Just turned 53
Good! At least get your blood work done so you know where you are.
Been on TRT for little over a year now. Told my PCP and he is uninterested in commenting on it. I think TRT solves a ton of issues that would hurt big pharmaceutical from selling antidepressants to weight loss and many other drugs that keep you dependent. TRT solves issues. Get tested. If T is low, give it a try if not for you then stop. If you do the work and lay off fast food you will be amazed how good you feel.
I'm soon to be 61 years old and I have been on TRT for almost two years. It has been one of the best things that I have done. I get the pellets every six months. I have increased my muscularity, I look younger. Actually people find it hard to believe that I'm in my sixties. I feel great, I am stronger, I have more energy. It has worked for me. I think it's great for many men.
You actually look younger and it is very attractive
@@LizzyMoreno74 Thank you.
@@m.allenbruce8327 it is nice to meet you, my name is Elizabeth and you??
Im from chicago too 👋
Pellets from where?
Thanks!
Thank you for the video. For the last year I’ve felt like I had terminal disease. Extreme fatigue to the point some days/ weeks I could barely get out of bed. Brain fog to the point I couldn’t do basic math some days. After a year of Test and nothing was found. My Doctor talked to me about starting TRT. My total T for the past year has been 190. I’ve had one injection a week ago. So, I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this is the answer.
Me too! Thanks for sharing!
Good luck !
i dont have sound right now, but how long until you started to feel happier, more energetic etc ?
There are ways to control or bring down hematocrit or high red blood cel count. Yes, donating blood works but when my doctor told me my levels were elevated the whole blood letting thing sounded kind of barbaric to me. Less booze, more exercise, stay hydrated, eat oatmeal -bran- (slows down iron absorption). I did these things and when I did my next blood panel my range was perfect. Personally I do NOT enjoy the dizzy, sick feeling of pulling enough blood to control this, especially over and over being that I have no plan on stopping the TRT…So, maybe that “sober October” and a more strict exercise regiment is exactly what you need! Good luck on your journey! Thanks again for your honesty and insight! In addition to all of you TRT haters and nay sayers, I am 57 and have been healthy exercising/training since I was 19, non stop! But when I turned 46 I was feeling tired, forgetful, weak after workouts and I thought I was sick. So, I went to a Dr and did a shit ton of tests. Low Test was the answer my Dr. Told me. What’s good for you is good for you..YAY here’s a trophy for being so perfect!!! Stop hating and let everyone do what’s best for them!! ❤❤
Thank you Mike!
The thing is with TRT your body will just keep increasing red blood cells so you will end up with hematocrit problems at some point. There is no way to stop this, just resolve it temporarily. Of course, everyone's body works differently so the increase in HCT might be far slower for some. Unfortunately studies show older men increase HCT faster than younger men.
TRT has been great and after 1 year and paying out of pocket, my urologist wrote me a prescription and got me a prior authorization for my insurance to cover it. So instead of paying $600+ for T I now pay a $15 copay for a 28 day supply. I hope that all that are on it find the right doctor, who reads current science and helps you too.
That’s awesome!
I’ve asked my urologist and family doctor if they can get tes covered but even with a Cadillac insurance plan they say NO because the range for T is so large 95% + fall within it. What else besides pay out of pocket can I do or say?
Hi,
Just some clarifications because I’m not sure if you are following an endocrinologist in this process:
- TRT it’s good IF needed; if your original levels of testosterone were in normal range the indication of replacement is not accurate, and its use is not innocuous, there are potential side effects in the short and long term
- A sangaree (yeah, to donate blood is nothing more than that, pretty close to use leeches) is not a treatment for, what you are describing, a basically normal level of hematocrit and hemoglobin; in any case they solve the issue when the levels are too high, but it’s only a control of the sign, not of the source, and the source is: you are using testosterone! Teetostore increases level of hemoglobin and hematocrit.
Thank you for sharing your journey; for more accuracy I suggests you to look for an endocrinologist or internal medicine specialist (I’m a surgical oncologist)
I believe the problem is not taking T on a daily cycle following the diurnal rhythm. That’s how I’m starting and we will see if anything gets elevated. Since it’s oil it takes 10-12 hours to spike so I plan evening injections so it aligns with a peak at 8am.
Previously you talked about not wearing undershirts or tees under your normal shirt. Temperature can affect that, but for us larger guys who are super self conscious about our ‘moobs’, the undershirt is a necessary confidence booster, to cover those pesky critters. Any thoughts or suggestions (minus surgery)? Are there alternative undergarments to help us out?
Definitely a good one for the Q&A.
I haven't worn a undershirt in years. I'm hot all the time and wearing a t-shirt I feel like I will ignite. I also don't wear plain white shirts much, which is the only reason I can see to wear a t-shirt - wearing a white shirt. Man boobs or not. ha ha ha.
Keep on eye on iron. ( Hemochromatosis ) High levels can potentially damage organs . People with Irish background are at higher risk. Get Ferritin checked . If high give Blood to bring levels down
Hey John, well done losing weight. I'm working on it too. My doctor put me on a Whole 30 type of diet for 3 months. It's actually working. I still have to find some time to get back to the gym though. If I could buy a couple extra hours a day I'd probably do it.
Let’s make it happen Mike!
If you switch your dosing, you'll fix the problems with hematocrit and iron. Basically any TRT dosage, can be taken sub-Q rather than IM, and more importantly taken 3 times as week as opposed to weekly or bi-weekly. You end up with much more natural levels of testosterone, as its the giants spikes and valleys that cause issues.
I think daily injections are the best protocol with oil in the evening since it takes 10-12 hours for a spike.
If you are not afraid of daily needles…
I've donated 201 pints of blood; it helps. Good for you and people need it!
But his blood is useless because his HCT is 0.60
Switching to sub Q injections can help keep your hemoglobin/hematocrit down. Donating blood too often gets old.
Great #'s John. Giving blood on a regular basis is a good way to reduce the "Thick Blood" issue. Also, talk to your health care professional about the Vitamin K in the D3+K2 sup you are taking. I believe vit K can contribute to high hemoglobin and hematocrit #'s, But I am not a Dr. so please verify.
Appreciate that! Thanks!
Please continue posting on your TRT. I'm 66 y/o and think I need to give it a try.
Thank you!
Most people I see doing testosterone have not taken the step of actually getting fit. Get shredded, maximize your cardio health, and take your body fat % down to 15% then see where you are. Give your body a chance to show you what it can do. Health isn't in a pill/shot.
In fact, the majority of people doing testo are the gym guys. Because when you exercise, you can notice the decline. This Chanel isn't the example
I like that advice.
I suspect this is correct. I am 62 and have been on TRT for 10 years. I tell people when they ask that the TRT just gives me the energy to workout everyday. If I was on TRT and didn't workout everyday I would be far from my 12% BF, and far from being able to do a sub 6 minute mile, 50+ pushup, and 25+ pullups. In general many of the default ranges given by the labs discussed in the video are not appropriate for a man on TRT. And the current standard of practice is to treat to Free testosterone levels not Total Testosterone levels.
Imagine how difficult this advice is to follow if you’re hypogonadal. Sure, just get your BF % down to 15, no problem. Maximize cardio health when having low T has been shown to be a negative for heart health. Get shredded when your hormones are tanked lol. Ppl who are hypogonadal, their body has shown them what it can do, and it sucks. Gatekeeping medication treatments just cos you don’t believe in pills/shots isn’t cool. Let ppl approach their health on their own terms
@@swoops41I know what he was attempting to say but most of us that choose to go the trt route, myself included, aren’t just lazy fat a** who don’t want to do the work.
I’m 52 and have been working out pretty consistently since the age of 12. I’m a certified personal trainer that loves fitness and chose trt as a last resort.
Just as you said if your hormones are jacked then no matter what you do it won’t work.
I don’t take trt because i dont think I need it but people have asked since i am a gym rat. Why would people not take it? Women get hormone replacement therapy and no one bats an eye. I bet you feel 100 percent better now 343 is pretty low in the real world
Well said! Thank you!
Actually 343 is pretty normal for that age.
@@MmeDesgranges lol no its not
I am 66 yrs old.. my last testosterone test number was 349 ..I was feeling week,fatigue,and low libido..after lots of research I decided to go for time release Pallets inserted in your button. It was done by a doctor Md. I feel great no side effects. On the contraire..lots of energy and great and fast results of lifting weights and getting more muscle mass. This process one has to do it every 6 months. $700 per session.
I am approaching 60, have regular check ups and blood work and through eating a balanced tasty but healthy diet and keeping active, I am on no meds. Strength training has been my go to but I am also a cyclist and serious skier. Strength training gives our bodies the support to age well and also, increases testosterone without meds. I will always do what I can through healthy life changes before going to meds. Meds are needed at times but can be a crutch also, look at how Ozempic is being overly used for weight loss. We all make our own decisions, but strength training has been great for me.
Great points! Thanks for commenting Joel!
Kudos to you mate, I'm the same age and also a cyclist. Joel Friel swears by strength training as we age. He would know, he wrote the cycling training bible.
@@melbman43I have read Joel’s books as well. I raced for years, more for fun, and when I began strength training, my core was noticeably stronger adding stability to everything. I also walk more upright and am much stable when trail running or telemark skiing.
That’s great. I’ve stopped trt and noticed that my fat burning is getting a lot harder. You think I should lift heavier or increase frequency?
GLP-1-ags are amazing bro! What else has helped so many fatties get it under control? Remember everyone's body works differently. The regime that keeps you tip top might turn someone else into a bag of lard. Don't think your willpower and strength of mind stands you above others .. it's genetics most of the time.
I’ve been in it for two years. I was VERY low - same levels as a man in his 90’s. I’m now slightly above average for a guy in his early 50’s which is right where I want it.
John: you’re watching your PSA levels, right?
Yes! All good! I should’ve mentioned that in the video, but I am well within range.
Is regular morning wood a good sign for test levels? Also, is it true that once you start TRT you can't stop as it shuts down your natural test production?
I’m not sure about the morning wood aspect, but for older men, your body has already shut down production, so that’s why replacement therapy works.
@@40OverFashion Ah I didn't know that, I thought you just produced less.
@40OverFashion It does not shut down in older men but gradually decreases. Obviously, there are other factors that can affect testosterone production in men of any age.
Taking T will shut down your HPT axis. If you stop, most of the time it will start up again after a while. But not always.
What brand was your D3 K2 vitamin?
Are you familiar with Richard Cooper John? Most guys on here would be I have no doubt. He has gone into this in great detail. The one question you need to ask your Dr regards to your T results " what was the same score for a male my hight and weight 20 years ago? Apparently, they lower the scores every year
Yes, I am familiar with him, but I haven’t seen any of his videos about TRT.
Accept the challenge, John! As you know, alcohol does more harm than good. Thanks for the update
You’re welcome!
What emotional or physical changes have you noticed? Have your workouts improved? Sleep? Mood?
Mood is better for sure. Not sure about sleep or workouts. Focus, motivation and energy have all improved.
I am very interested in doing this. I had a bloodwork done but my numbers are in range so my Dr wont put me on it. 😤
You never mentioned how you feel now. What kind of results have you seen and is it worth the effort??
I would say it’s worth it. It hasn’t been a dramatic difference, but it is definitely noticeable.
Find a new doctor you aren’t getting any younger
Are you taking anything additional to the testosterone? I know Peter MD normally uses more than that but in California some things aren't allowed.
No, just Test.
Reducing your iron levels is a good thing. Therapeutic phlebotomy (donating blood) has other benefits as well. As red blood cells age they lose flexibility and having your body produce new ones helps blood to better flow through the vessels - especially through smaller capillaries. It also reduces blood viscosity - another net positive. High iron stores have been linked to higher cancer rates as evidenced from comparisons of women pre vs post menstrual and associated incidences of cancer.
Better idea than sober October to consider is modifying your lifestyle to just decrease alcohol consumption on a regular basis. I’ve stopped drinking during the week and limit myself to two drink a night weekend. I will typically split a bottle of wine in to a 375ml bottle if I’m opening a bottle by myself. Everything in my body seems to work better as a result and it helps a great deal with weight management. The liver can regenerate itself and giving it periodic breaks from alcohol goes along way toward optimizing its function. Also helps you to recover better from exercise - and possibly keep you more on track with fitness goals.
Appreciate this! Thank you!
Congratulations on the numbers, well done. However, no sober October as we need to celebrate (will explain later).
Fair enough!
Loads of women go on HRT, so I don't know why the subject seems more taboo for men. Glad it has helped you!
Exactly!! I’m not sure why men get such a hard time about it.
You're doing good. Just try to split the dose like you said and do it subcutaneous instead of intra muscular. If you start lifting weights and do cardio you won't have to donate blood that often. And of course you going to have that v taper body type.
IM will give you a better slow release over the week when you put it deep into your ventro. SQ is less hassle and less painful but ...
Remember to monitor your blood pressure on TRT. Your hematocrit and heamoglobin may drop back into range if you inject twice per week vs once like you had mentioned. Its also actually less painful because its the amount of oil that causes the most discomfort. It's not a "theory" it keeps things stable it actually DOES and you can see the positive benefits of of injecting more frequently on your blood work. I'd also suggest regular morning cardio daily, (20 mins heart rate 100-120bpm) baby aspirin and even dropping the dose slightly before doing blood draws because that's not just a one time thing it will end up being every few months for life if you don't nip it in the bud right now. Good luck!
Great results. To me, the figures are all fine.
Yes, u will have to donate blood. Same with ferritin. Ensure that you stay HYDRATED at all times. Blood viscosity increases with rise in your HEmoglobin and hematocrit.
Thank you!
I got my first injection four days ago Thursday morning in my doctors office and for some unknown reason reason I’m feeling more depressed, less energy and gaining fat. It’s not making sense to me right now .
I know it takes time I’m 62 my T level is 201. I’m happy for your results. Just keep me in your prayers everyone.
Im told it takes a few weeks to build up in your system to reach a new baseline.
You need SubQ injections twice a week. No need to go to doc, do it at home.
4 days ago? You didn’t gain any noticeable fat in 4 days. It can take weeks or months to feel the difference from TRT.
If you don't like the weekly shots, you might consider switching to the gel that you put on daily. You just rub it on your shoulders each day so you get a consistent dose. Plus, it's available in a generic so it's really cheap. Through my insurance, I pay $20 every three months.
From my research, it’s not nearly as effective, but yes, it is an option for some. Thanks for commenting!
John, Hematocrit at 60.7 is a problem. That means your blood is too thick .. too many red blood cels as a side effect of the TRT. You want your Hematocrit under 0.50. The risk you run when your blood is too thick is an increased chance of stroke, heart attack, etc.
One way to resolve that is to donate blood, which will reduce the HCT (hematocrit) fairly quickly, but at 0.60 it might take more than once to get back under 0.50. You can donate blood every two months or so (provided they only take one unit).
The problem with donating blood to reduce HCT is that your Iron levels also reduce, and they can become too low which is a whole other set of problems. You want full Iron Studies in your Labs every time to keep an eye on Iron levels and Ferritin.
Over age 50 I would say the average man's total Testosterone level would be around 350 ng/dL, but most men feel best when their total Testosterone levels are around 500 ng/dL or so. You don't need 800+ ng/dL! You want the lowest possible dose that makes you feel better. The higher the dose of T, the more chance (and severity) of unwanted side effects. To say the upper value in a normal range is 1,100 ng/dL is just comedy. I would say that's higher than any man of any age has shown in the history of the world. You're only getting up there with injections of T.
Thank you! Appreciate that!
Hi John! Impressive therapy getting Free T to 20! I can’t find anywhere with how many mg’s are you taking weekly? I’d pound the weights and sprints and get jacked. Book a ticket to the Philippines and find a 20 year old to keep you happy! That’s my plan. Just started daily injections yesterday. I think evenings are best because the cyp takes 10-12 hours to peak and that corresponds with the daily diurnal rhythm of T. I hope it fixes any raised hemocrit or hemoglobin issues. I donate blood regularly anyway.
I’m taking roughly 125 mg weekly.
I'm on my 8th week of TRT and HCG. I was wondering if you think your weight loss was due to TRT. How about your strength and motivation?
Weight loss was a separate issue. Energy and motivation have increased, but keep in mind, TRT is not going to instantly change you into Superman. :)
@@40OverFashion In fact unless you have low T, TRT will do nothing except maybe give you sides.
Good video
Those are very nice numbers, it looks like you're at the upper end of the spectrum if we look at those ranges.
As far as hair loss goes, judging by your hairline that's the last thing you should worry about.
John did you lose weight with the factor meals?
Thanks for asking! That was definitely part of it.
@ 60 hematocrit, I would donate asap.. Donating will reduce it it by 3 points. You will still be on the high side. I recommend lots of fish oil, Nattokinase, drink lots of water/fluids, and steady state cardio for at least 30 min a day.
You right bro
Are there online med clinics that supply try?
You’re not way off base :). You asked lol. Numbers are important but the WAY YOU FEEL is probably the most important. Total T is a general reference. Low is worse than high. You’re not, obviously, a body builder which has multiple, multiple, times the range. Your Total T is good. I’ve been doing this since 2008 and there’s the ‘range’ which is kinda situational, but it really goes to how you feel and how much you are prescribed. I agree that it’s strange that there’s a taboo when women get hormone treatment and us guys get it as well, and that it’s taboo that we are tagged as being un-natural, as opposed to when women do it, then it’s OK.
So… adjust the amount you get injected and how you feel. At our age, I honestly believe how you feel makes a ton of sense, vs the numbers Labcorp tells you. It would be easy to abuse, if that’s what you wanted, but I hear you when you just want to feel good/normal. Why is it so shaming for us men to want to feel ‘normal’ or good?
You 200% right bro
How many mg injection and the frequency?
125mg weekly.
822 is a good number to be at. I expected you were taking more TRT than that. Since after not too long your body stops adding it's own Test. to the numbers.
You would find that the injections "suck" less if you would directly draw with small gauge insulin needles and inject twice or three times/week. Less muscle damage at the injection site, less conversion to estradiol and DHT due to reduced spiking of the T level.
I’ve been on TRT for 6 years (I’m 53). One of the wisest decisions I’ve ever made. However, everyone should understand that TRT itself isn’t a magic pill. I highly urge everyone who is considering it, to combine TRT with better eating and exercise to get max results. Another thought…don’t expect drastic change overnight but allow some time for getting “dialed in” as each person is different and requires different dosages as well as receiving different results. But trust me…over the course of time, proper dosages and better eating and exercise….game changer.
Thank you for commenting! Very well said!