Is Korky or Fluidmaster Better in 2023? Universal All-in-One Toilet Repair Kits - Install Compared
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- This video shows two most common Complete Toilet Repair Kits for 2" flush valve drain openings: Fluidmaster PerforMax versus Korky Universal Kit.
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KORKY (Lavelle) Valve Kits:
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- All-in-one Kit: amzn.to/3T3fUMp
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Introduction 00:00
Kits overview 01:02
Warranty: 02:12
Old Hardware Removal: 03:40
Main Differences 1-4
1. Overflow Tube Adjustment: 05:00
2. Fill Valve: 05:31
3. Fill Tube Cut-Off Valves: 06:52
4. Flapper Adjustments: 08:40
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How do you adjust a Korky toilet fill valve?
Which toilet valve is the best? - Наука та технологія
Korky is made in the USA and the water fill valve is self contained. I just installed a Korky in one of my toilets. It was easy to install and it works well.
I'm a Fluidmaster gal myself, but it's good to see this comparison. My parents ran a small motel they built for many decades and after my stepdad passed I did a lot of the maintenance. I had 17 toilets in my army of woe. It is amazing the things kids can get stuck in a toilet if they get into the bathrooms alone and are left to play when they get bored on vacations!
Your obviously a shill for China. Go Korky and make America Great Again.
One of my earliest memories is of a plumber removing our toilet in order to remove a Matchbox car that I had flushed down the toilet.
Do you know of it’ll cause any issues to use the old bowl to toilet gasket? It didn’t look like it was falling apart (yet) and seemed to fit better than the new one .. This was my first time replacing the drain kit on a toilet.
Same price for both, so I chose Korky for manufacturing in USA.
I have used both and like Korky the best
Idc if the American made item was 5$ more.. as a American it's all I try an buy.
Wtf
@@alekmartin9999 WTF is it that you don't understand?
Excellent video, as I just finished replacing an old "arm and ball" float type valve with the Fluidmaster valve you have shown. When I went to the hardware store, both of these valves were available choices and i wondered which one was actually best. As i stated, I ended up purchasing the Fluidmaster and the installation came out fine with no problems, but now I know that the Korky valve probably would have worked okay as well.
I just used the Fluidmaster rebuild kit. Easy install. The overflow tube is now easily adjustable. No cutting required. The tools worked for my 20-year-old toilet. I had to replace the water supply line stop valve. It couldn't shut off the water. I also bought a new supply line that has a metal screw on connector instead of the plastic one. After reading some comments about how the plastic type can and have broken for some people. I wanted to avoid that disaster.
Very thorough comparison via actual installation. Well done. I found this quite useful.
Ive installed both 4 yrs ago one in each bath.no problems with either.its all about preference, and ability to install
Fluidmaster has all the tools needed to change out everything. Great for homeowners. Thanks
Replaced the unit with Korky and am well pleased with the installation and performance to date. I liked the ease of adjusting water levels and extendable advantage on the supply waterside.
My many thanks to you, Sir. I wish you could make one of these thorough video comparisons for everything I need to make a decision to buy.
My experience is that Fluidmasters don't last. I got tired of replacing them every few years and gave Korky a try. As of today, I have never had to replace a Korky.
An excellent comparison in detail and tips on installation and answers on "What if" questions in procedures. Well done, Thank you.
On the toto toilets I have, i had to replace the flush towers with the new toto ones as the older designed leaked like crazy. Swapped the fill valves too
This guy answers all questions. Good job sir
Just installed a fluid master fill valve today. Mine came with the a bowl/tank dial like the korky in the video, not a roller valve. It’s super easy to use
This is a great comparison video! I have installed both of these products in my house -- the Korky kit most recently. I give the edge to the Korky brand just because there's no hacksaw needed for installation, which made for an easier install.
I agree that the Korky flapper adjustment is much more complicated than it needs to be. Other than that, however, the Korky kit is a good setup.
Ultimately I think either product works well, and if you need a new flush handle then the Fluidmaster option is more economical compared to buying the Korky kit and a separate flush handle.
On the other hand, if you don't need a new flush handle, a consideration is if your tank uses two or three bolts to hold it to the bowl. If it uses three, the Korky set might be the better choice as it includes three bolts and washers, whereas the Fluidmaster only includes two.
I went with the BrassCraft version of this style. It has a ten year waranty. The first one started failing after three years. It was replaced under waranty but it took months. Now the second one is doing the same thing after about another three years. The problem is the rubber diaphragm starts swelling from the chlorine in our municipal water. This prevents the fill valve from shuting off and the tank overflowing down the overflow tube.
I used the fluid master kit and it came with all the tools i needed really nice
Thank you so much for posting this video. This information is worth more than gold. 🌹
Had the exact dual flush Fluidmaster that started ghost flushing after 2 years. Checked out everything and the problem continued. Had to replace it with a universal Fluidmaster replacement.
I use to like Korky because it was easy to install, but it is always getting leaky after just a few months. Now I'm trying fluidmaster.
New installed Korky didn't work leaking tossed it. Installed Fluidmaster in 5 min. perfect.
Thank you! I have a toilet that is constantly refilling this was helpful
I noticed that Korky has 3 bolts and the other has only two. A my Kohler bowl takes three. Just puting that out there.
I've never heard of Korky or seen it in the store. I've installed many Fluidmaster valves, and notice that their quality is seemingly getting worse. I just replace one that was 'ghost filling' for no apparent reason. It was only about 3 years old. Maybe I'll try a Korky if the situation arises again.
Excellent. Thank you. Sounds like the Korky is a slightly better bet.
Thanks for great info. I'm confident I can do this myself!
Wow
Nice comparison.
Great video
Very thorough
Liked and subscribed
If your toilet has 3 bolts holding the tank get korky or extra hard ware for the third bolt with fluid master
Great comparison video
Mine was overflowing since last night was making noise , shut off the valve went to Walmart got the fluid master same that was In it, took me like 3 minutes to replace super easy and cheap only like 11$
Had both, Replaced both brands within a year. Korky because it would squeak when shutting off, the fluid master because it leaked into the tank.
Good Video! I think I learned something..Thanks!
Awesome review!!💯
The Fluidmaster is the best because they last longer/take longer to break down. Korky is junk and they break down fast. I've removed a ton of each of these and I've found that Korky rubber starts getting sticky and flaking apart after a short while.
Thanks for an excellent video.
I have the identical original Flush valve and flapper that you started with in the Video. Can I install the Fluidmaster 400H-002 model and keep the original flapper? It is working fine and I don't want to take the tank off.
I replaced my water fill valve with the Fluidmaster, and it lasted 1 1/2 years until it quit working. In looking at reviews, it seems both of these leave a lot to be desired in terms of reliability. Do you have a higher quality recommendation?
When changing a fill valve is it always good practice to stay with the brand that needs replacing??
Very nice explanation, I learned something new here. I never heard of korky until recently when looking at toilet sealing rings. I didn't want to mess with the wax ring.
They both have their positives and Korky is definitely pushing the innovation forward, in the industry that is usually content and set in their ways.
My parents' house built in the late 1960's had the same toilets with no changes for 34 years. I don't understand how they could build things in the 1960's to last half of a century, and now with modern technology it lasts for two years (if you are lucky) and leaks the entire time.
Products that have to be replaced frequently keep the profits coming in. If you manufacturer a product that lasts you're going to put yourself out of business.
@@francoamerican4632 Yep. Planned obsolescence!
I've seen original fill valves in old toilets that are over 50 years old and they still work perfectly. This is why I buy vintage NOS fill valves from Ebay.
I liked the video and all the work that went into it. What I did not like and was disappointed at the end is that there was no 'concluding summary of thoughts', in other words. After all this work to get to know them, here is which one I would buy if I wanted this out of it, here is which one I would buy if I wanted that out of it. It felt like a cop out a politician would do at the end which made mis mistrust the whole clip.
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Just installed a fluid master and it didn't have that roller lock on the hose. It had a nice valve to adjust the flow.
It might have been an upgraded model. You got lucky. Was the rest of the kit the same?
@@Outlaw_SEO I only got the fill valve and not the kit. Thought they upgraded the valve across the line.
Your video is very detailed and informative!
I have a hNdle problem on one toilet and the overflow valve problem on another one. Can I buy both these products, switch the parts and use either on either toilet to fix the problems?
For example, can I use korky for I like how the overflow valve adjustment is easy but use the handle from the other one?
Thanks again
You should be fine doing that. Make sure that your old handle’s chain connection rod has a connection spot directly above the new valve. If the answer is yes, you’re good to go.
@@Outlaw_SEO great, thanks again!
So great you did this comparison. What I was interested in was to find out which one has the sturdier, longer
lasting flappers. Fluidmaster says longer lasting on their package, and their rubber is thicker comparing to
the other brand that's thinner and softer. I haven't used Korky yet. Have you noticed anything? Thanks!
Korky had to be replaced under warranty because it kept running. But the warranty replacement process was really easy.
@@Outlaw_SEO I still think Fluidmaster
gives us better quality. It seems the
rubber is thicker. Thank you!
Fluidmaster makes better flappers. I've seen them last 20 years.
I replaced mine with the Korky but don't like the slow refill. Don't remember if old refilled faster nor brand but I wish they made one that refilled faster.
What's your rush?! Why not enjoy the ride and enjoy the roses along the way??
Thank you brother
I would recommend buying stainless steel or 100% brass bolts, washers, and nuts. Brass coated hardware is not acceptable, it must be 100% brass. Best not to mix metal types (all stainless steel or all brass) as that can cause a chemical reaction that causes corrosion over time. Doing this will enable one to at least occasionally add some chemical cleaner in the tank without corroding the hardware.
I've installed two of the Fluidmaster kits recently, and used a tubing cutter to cut the flush valve tube. It's easier than using a hacksaw, and makes a clean cut. The Fluidmaster has brass bolts, and the Korky has stainless steel bolts. That alone justifies going with the former. I also don't trust the Korky overflow tube not to leak. Adjustable? No thanks.
Like your video style! Subscribed, and went with the Korky!
Thank you. Welcome to the channel!!
I have 2 American Standard toilets both equipped with Fluidmaster kits by the toilet supplier. After about 2 years following install they both leaked. Cleaning the tank outlet, flushing the fill valve and adjusting to optimum settings did not help. 😨
Thanks man
Well done! I used Korky. Please address the correct way to join the tank to bowl. Some say metal washer then rubber washer. KWIM?
Metal washer then rubber with Teflon tape on the threads. If you don’t have a third bolt attaching your tank or want to purchase extra hard ware use another rubber washer then metal with a nut under the tank then attach to the toilet with another rubber washer metal washer and nut don’t tighten too tight as you dnt want to crack porcelain.
@@ashleycampbell2266 The Teflon tape isn't going to accomplish anything. If water gets past one of the rubber washers in the tank, you're going to have a leak, because the bolt threads don't engage with anything other than the nut that's under the toilet bowl. (I know Fluidmaster includes extra nuts for optional use between the tank and bowl, but that's not going to prevent a leak, either.) And obviously, the rubber washers (not metal washers) in the tank and under the bowl always go against porcelain.
@@censored7881 “I had success putting Teflon tape on the bolt threads so there’s a tighter fit where the bolt threads touch the rubber washer” I put a metal washer on first so the head of the bolt doesn’t sink through the rubber when tightening and creates an even seal. obviously metal can’t touch porcelain”. The bottom was repeated with a rubber ring then metal washer. This process may not be necessary for you, but in my case is the only way to stop leaks. 3 months later still no leaks. Fluid master did not come with a 3rd bolt and hardware. My toilets original seal was a thick rubber triangle with individual rubber inserted to bolt holes. Using this method is the only method that worked for me. So yes Teflon tape is useful around the threads if the rubber doesn’t fit tight enough and your two hours from a hardware store and need to make do with what you have.
@@ashleycampbell2266 Fluidmaster includes two extra nuts and metal washers (no bolts) for optional use under the tank. They claim it enhances stability but I'm not sure how helpful it really is. If you put a metal washer up against the head of the bolt, water will leak between the two and go right down the shaft of the bolt. But hey, if you managed to get it leak-free, I guess you're doing fine. Personally I wish they had made the bolt heads larger (i.e. the size of the rubber washers).
@@censored7881 I agree larger bolt heads would be helpful. I added the metal washer because it was leaking .. The holes in this toilet are larger than I’ve seen in others the rubber ring was indenting before it was tight enough. I feel my toilet should of had the triangle piece with the rubber seals built in replaced as the old one was dry rotted and leaking, but I made do with what I had. If it ever leaks again I’ll replace the original seal😁
How do you stop a Korky Fill valve if the toilet is about to overflow? We used to raise the ball on older valves as kids or pull up the float on newer Fluidmaster fill valves. How would you stop the water flow quickly on a Korky Fill valve? I know the valve coming out of the wall is obvious but can it be stopped quickly without using that valve?
No but I'd change the angle stop out of the wall to a good quarter turn valve at the same time which would be even faster then pulling the back cover and stopping it with the float.
the Korky comes with three ss bolts, but it doesn't work in Kohler, even though they imply that it does. the foam gasket it too thick, and there is nothing to balance the tank on in Kohler three bolt assemblies, you need a 1/4 spacer and a shorter tank to bowl cone gasket. Also, they only have one set of three nuts. if you try to get Kohler three bolt to float on that thick foam gasket, the three bolts will be very loose and leak. I hate dealing with this stuff.
Good Video. Yep I saw it dude, your tank to toilet gasket, is just like mine is black and thinner than the bigger orange one that comes with the fluid master, it causes my tank to move side to side with some pressure, I kept the original to bring back to the hardware store to find a match in case that big orange one starts to leak. Also your flush tanks were really clean, mine had old bits of rubber and some grime on the sides so its a good time to wash it out really well.
Looks like you missed comparing the handles. The Fluid Master (the one I just bought) is cheap and you have to bend the plastic lever to the same shape as the original it really is a piece of junk so I used the original. The Korky it looks like real zinc plated metal or is it that your original flush handle on the Korky? For me with zero experience it took 2 hours to replace because the lock nut from on the flush tank under the gasket was frozen on from never being changed in 16 yrs. I had to cut it off with a cordless jigsaw (a tool everyone should have). Also the water line now has a S shape because the fluid master fill valve stuck down lower than the original and I was not going to cut my water line or the threaded fill valve. Also Fluid Master recommends replacing the hardware connection on the water line if its over 5 yrs old, I just used the original old ones (I am saying no to trips to the hardware store).
I bought Korky kit, but regretted. The water tank leaking is the major issue. Gasket is so thick , and the water tank is easily pushed to one side. I finally used the old gasket to solve the issue.
good video
Korky normally lasts about a year from my experience. The fluid master several years. They both work great until they stop.
This is the second one for the basement bat. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOuLt8IL_GxhhaK8DBuKEL-zV0UJVpWZn , works great
Interesting!!!!
Korky bowl fill is less complicated. More quiet. Korky.
You’re speaking my love language
Fill valve discussions are great for expressing love.
I really don't like how the korky toilet kit, comes with that thick rubber that causes my tank to rock, now I got to have that kit taken off and replaced 😢
Korky any time of the day! Made in USA not China like Fluidmaster.
I bought a few Fluid Master fill valves a while back, they were made in Mexico. YMMV, but I've since switched to Korky too.
Thanks guys! USA
I will switch to Korky 100 %
Which one fills the tank faster ?
Try watching the video?
Video said Korky: 55 seconds, Fluidmaster 59 seconds.
Korky is my friend. He wins
Not a fan of the Korky compression gasket...had to tighten it down again...two man job to push the tank down while tightening the bolts...
Korky all the way.
Korky all the way
Handyman for over 30 years also made in USA Americans supporting Americans
So, you still never said which one was better.
I have used both. The FluidMaster is more difficult to adjust. Also the Float gets stuck on the pipe, even though it is plastic. Don't have that trouble with Korky. No moving float with Korky either. Easier install and less trouble than FluidMaster. 👎
Korky 👌 always.
I can tell why ghost flush. It’s the tube … it’s to far down the flush valve and siphoning. Use supplied clip for tube so it’s above flush valve! Your welcome 😊
So….I guess my question is after watching the video That states the question in the damn video title….WHICH ONE IS BETTER???? For real bro? Legit wanted your opinion at the end and got left high and dry. Wtf…
@@hopperbopper went with the fluid master. Thanks for the info man.
Starting now hoping I don't have to buy a saw
The Fluidmaster 400A has an easy adjustable height pipe so I don’t know what this guy is talking about.
This guy is playing pretend plumber. A lot of his information was incorrectly stated. One of the consequences of "learning" through UA-cam videos.
Beware Kohler and their proprietary tank-to-bowl gaskets... There's a hot place waiting for that designer/engineer/marketer!
Been a plumber for over 20 years. Fluid master is way better. The korky one doesn't last as long nor is it as easy to repair. Stick with fluidmaster
exactly!!
For people that uses the fluidmaster
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Why do you need a complicated system for toilet? Korky is way easier to install.
@igibon8 have you ever installed them ? They install Exactly the same way so how is it easier to install
That’s funny, the fluidmaster we put in wore out in less than a year
I have tried both and they are all pretty hit or miss. Neither has much advantage in quality or durability. Expect to work for 1-2 years and buy which ever is cheaper at the time…
La marca no es korky es lavelle
KORKY - Made in the USA. That's all I need to know. I refuse to buy anything made in China.
So I assume you don't own a TV, or a computer, or a smartphone, or a tablet then. Nothing wrong with supporting manufacturers in your home country. But it would be very, very difficult to live in the modern world an not buy things made elsewhere including China.
@@thebeans66 that is the typical response I get when I make that statement. My cellphone is made in Taiwan and my tv is made in Korea. Go ahead and support the Chicom’s at our peril.
Respectfully, Michael
@@Grindog I respect your commitment to buy USA (or at least non-China) made items. It is, unfortunately, very difficult these days. I too prefer to buy items made in other countries but bottom line will buy what is best for my needs. As an example, I prefer Apple products to others. So I do buy their phones and computers. Would I prefer they were made in the USA? Sure. But the USA doesn't have the workforce to do such manufacturing. Simply not enough people needing (and willing to) work in any particular area to staff the kind of factories it would require. And for some items, there may not be a non-China made equivalent. I personally am not going to not purchase a type of product just because I can't find one that is non-China made. But that's just me.
Hopperbopper, unfortunately, you’re right, especially with our current idiot in chief.
Chyna.
You keep stating that the old trim inside the second toilet you show is Fluidmaster. It is actually not. State your info correctly.
warranties are blatant scams
2:05 that is not a fluidmaster that's a Hydroclean toilet valve
For the people that believe that was a Hydroclean toilet value at 2:05
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What a joke! The original valve was still good, the fill hose had just worked its way down into the fill valve tube which any plumber knows causes a syphon😂! For $20 though, it was probably time to get rid of that 1960’s ball float anyway. Nice clean cut on the fill valve tube btw, looks like you could butcher a cow with those jagged edges. 20 seconds with a file would’ve made it look so much neater for the customer. Thanks for the effort but a waste of time to watch this video
Fluidmaster is junk that has to be consatntly adjusted.
GREAT VID