Why don't you just let these people do what they like. They should be allowed to fuck their lives up without any support from the outside. Communism is the best way to allow stupid people to starve themselves without having anyone else take responsibility for their retardation.
As a Nigerian-immigrant currently working and schooling in North America, I have come to one conclusion: Social Justice, wokeness and progressivism can ONLY exist in a developed, liberal and first-world nation/region where there are very few existential threats and where the purposeless masses in urban areas have to create some form of ideology to fill the void in their lives. That is why it makes no sense and destroys that society. That is also why rural westerners, non-western countries and immigrants mostly tend to hate social justice and wokeness more than the native citizens.
You got to the same conclusion as me. Being a Venezuelan immigrant, there's nothing that annoys me more than seeing a bunch of people with no experience in life whatsoever preaching about how good are the ideas that have pretty much destroyed my country
true, people without real problems wil make the problems for themselves, there was a mice experiment in which they were simply given all the food they could want, their behaviour changed, no more survival needed, some simply stopped breeding even others only did it, they even factionalised
Marxism has literally always been a pastime for the self-hating bourgeois. That's who Karl himself was, a leech who was handed everything he had, which was a lot more than what the "workers of the world" had in his day.
Never understood how the guy who spent years studying economics and writing a book on economics is given so much credibility when he kept his own family in poverty despite averaging four times the income of a skilled laborer. Like you can't manage your own finances but you would make a prescription for the rest of the world?
@@mrspeigle1 Lack of self-awareness, which is something that is shared between those people. They think they know it all but fail to do any sort of self-reflection and watch the world before they open their mouths.
@@combinecommando001 Thats because *nothing* is their fault. They are positively perfect in every way. If you are perfect, and NEVER at fault for your screw ups then of course you'll never bother to reflect. Of course, we know better, and I think deep down so do they, which is why the react the way they do. That's generally how ppl who are forced to confront such truths tend to react
I think they're just evil. They resent others, so they devise a system that will give them power over others, or at least turn society inside out and cause a bunch of misery. Otherwise they're dumber than flat earthers - and if the latter is true, the why are they so influential? They're evil. They know what they're doing.
They truly are Borg. I would get absolutely ZERO sleep in a creepy commie "shared sleeping space". I can envision them all "sleeping" like the Borg -- standing motionless and temporarily powering down.
@@zxyatiywariii8 not the drug addicts. They’ll be up for some time. They get free syringes to keep the party going until their organs start to fail in alphabetical order. And before then, they’ll steal your shoes.
I am guessing an enormous correlation with being abortion positive. Bedtime is so fundamental to a child’s existence, and the utter misery of parents who don’t have children that sleep well should be the warning bell to any progressive parents that they are not smarter than biology. Reality is the true teacher and many progressive parents are forced to put their kids onto sleep routines as a prevention for serious mental illness episodes after their hippy bullshit doesn’t work and they’re telling their doctor they are about to hurt someone.
@@TM_AZ There's a real Calvin and Hobbes comic strip where Calvin literally states, "This is tyranny!" in response to bedtime, so that's pretty accurate.
@@TM_AZ yeah, like a couple of these rants SHO read off, I imagined Calvin saying in the second panel of the comic, then his parents say something in the third panel like "well we always clean the house for an hour before we go to bed so you can help!" then Calvin chooses to go to bed of his own accord
*Capitalism* Employer: "I need someone to work during these hours of the day in exchange for this amount of pay." Worker 1: "I am willing to provide labor for that period of time in exchange for pay" Employer: "Then we have a deal. See you then." Worker 2: "I wish to work, but for X Y and Z reasons I cannot work within that timespan." Employer: "Here, you may either take this seperate shift of time, or you may find employ at another place with time slots more amenable to you." Worker 2: "Thank you, I shall consider my options. Good thing I can choose and consent to whether I want to work or not." *Communism* Commissar: "Comrade, you have been assigned to this facility. You shall work all day from sunrise to sunset. Only break will be meal time where you are provided moldy bread, thin soup, and, if we meet production quotas, a small shot of vodka. If you are caught slacking off or falling asleep, you will be shot and given to the fertilizer factory." Serf: "Excuse me commissar, but can I work somewhere el-*BLAM*" Commissar: "Now you work in fertilizer factory. NEXT!"
Yeah they seem to think they can do as they wish without realizing they're going to be tossed into a role that is needed or the role that is perceived to be needed. Because let's be real, these people think they'll be allowed to paint and play games all day to then go to Starbucks and get free coffee.
Its definitely one thing I can get behind. 8 hours of sleep is a rather healthy amount, 8 hours of work generally allows for enough work to get done assuming everyone works, and 8 hours of play (though it will also be consumed by other things) will allow enough time to be satisfied and have personal time.
Communist constructs are capitalist constructs. Lies are truth, fiction is fact, men are women. It's at the point where I think it's more realistic for these people to be foreign agents attempting disruption than real individuals who think these things. But maybe that's optimistic about how dumb people can be.
@@seantaylor2683 that's also a good route to go. The only time I'd be against it is if I'm taking classes. Because I've worked 10 hour days with 3 hours of class and the commute to both is also a factor in how much time you have and it was exhausting. But if its just work, as I said before, its also a nice alternative.
Peak decadence. The fact that they can even consider stuff like this to be a problem is peak decadence and proof they have no real problems. Even wealthy kings of ancient nations couldn't afford to stay up past sundown every night. Torches and candles were expensive.
Exactly, this is why Mediaeval serfdom functioned based on the sun -- and probably primeval people too. It's ironic these caviar commies want to ignore time but also address climate change -- they can't treat night the same as day without using even more power to do so. That said, I'm a congenital night owl so I understand the impulse. But I made it work for me by taking night shifts and swing shifts. I'm at my best working the 11 pm to 7 am shift.
There's PLENTY of real problems, they do this because they have NO solution to those problems, and thanks to their ideology, they never will. And they know it, even though they'll never admit it. So they make up childish "problems" to "fix" so they don't ever actually have to think
Torches and candles were the bougie lighting methods, with rushlights and simple wick lamps to provide some weak light. There was just nothing much to do past sundown.
@@zxyatiywariii8 The key is having _a regular schedule_, whatever that schedule is (when I was younger, I preferred night shift, too. But I made darned sure I got my winks during the day.)
I think these people have a lot of problems, but they aren't material problems. The ideology is used to explain why they feel bad. "if equality is solved I won't feel like shit anymore", kind of thinking. They project on anything that bothers them in the world and not realize the problem is within themselves.
Leftists in a Western pseudo-capitalist economy: "Time is a capitalist construct!" Leftists in a Communist economy: "I finished my eighteen hour shift in the mines! May I please have today's ration chit? ... please?"
@@pirig-gal Ah, but comrade, You get 60% of your ration chit, because i did such a good job supervising and the extra rations will keep me more alert next shift.
Capitalism? Communism? Socialism? It doesn’t matter because people will always find a way to cheat the system and like the saying goes monkey see monkey do so if someone finds a “bug” In the system people will come and ask how you did it and they will tell more people and more people and when rich people try doing it and someone try’s fixing the “ bug” and unlike a video game people won’t just forget about it and move on the rich ones will lobby to keep the law how it is to keep getting the same amount of money without harm to their wallets and the cycle continues
@@yoruemiya9196 it does matter because I’m a capitalist system you have more freedoms which make dealing with bull easier plus the easiest way to make money in a capitalist system is to provide something people want while in a socialist system you have less freedom and cheat the system using bureaucracy which isn’t something people want.
@@SymmetricalDocking is that why it’s the only place that’s not Florida to have a bunch of crazy killers in the USA Note: I was making fun of the Florida man thing but seriously tho i know that Alaska is infamous for its serial killers
Bedtime isn't "real." It's a construct. Like most constructs, we built it to provide helpful structure. An exercise schedule is a construct, but it helps you become more healthy.
@@magustrigger9195 that's what makes it even funnier, communists are so stupid they just clap and bark like sea lions with a head injury if you suggest anything that sounds like a communist would say it. Even if you're making fun of them.
"Before capitalism people could choose when they went to bed, it will be the same under Communism" "COMRADE, GO TO YOUR BUNK! YOUR SHIFT AT THE COPPER MINE STARTS IN 5 HOURS!"
@@JoshuaKennedy321 yep, their day was mostly dictated by sunlight. There were people who would be awake at night for both safety reasons and some would still hunt at night, but a big factor was how much you can see. Then the light bulb revolutionized civilization. Now I can drive a car at 3 am if I have to.
Yeah, would be funny to talk about how they call real hard-working people from farms and factories "racists" and "fascists" just cause they live in a Republican state.
Socialists: I have finally freed you from the tractors and combines that stole your jobs. Now you can till with horse-driven ploughs and thresh with your bare hands again!
A lot of them really believe that hunter-gatherer life was like the Garden of Eden. Just walk around and pick up food with no hardships. I've legit had arguments with leftists that think the agricultural revolution was a mistake.
Yes they do. They use Natives as an example without knowing anything other than we lived in tribes. They don't understand we had separate houses/tepees for a family unit, many had an area to farm to grow food for themselves rather than some collective, the women made clothing for their families not everyone, etc. The only thing that was done as a collective like they imagine, is ceremonies and moving. Yes if my sister-in-law lost her husband she would be cared for. By her husband's family, not the tribe as a whole. It was only in extreme situations that the entire tribe cared for someone or something.
To be fair, the Roman citizen had no set time that he had to be at work. He woke up when he did, probably skipped breakfast and casually made his way to his job - maybe with a couple of casual stops along the way. Everyone would be home before dark and they only worked for half of the year (lots of off-days and events/festivals). The way the workday is structured today is a very recent thing but these people are obviously kids larping as revolutionaries.
@@araaraaura1887 "I've legit had arguments with leftists that think the agricultural revolution was a mistake." Ummm... The agricultural revolution was fucking horrible. I would argue that it was a mistake and that we had to wait 10,000 years for the industrial revolution to finally liberate us from the horrors of the agricultural revolution. Of coarse industrialization isn't perfect either. It's coming at the expense of the environment. I bet we will fix that problem and then more goddamn problems will occur from another source. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction and all. This is because mother nature hates all her children and wants them all to suffer no matter what. Thus here we are.
The Kibbutz communes actually tried the whole "communal child rearing" thing. Turns out that parents would almost always try to stay with their children and give them as many advantages as they could. Who'da thunk?
Yeah, its almost like this is my flesh and blood, I'm naturally am going to have a bond with them. Literally when my son was born I didn't realize how much I cared about him until he had to go to the NICU for a few days and I felt a huge wave of worry. It was then that I realized just how much I care about someone I barely knew. And I never felt that way before. If I hear other children getting sent there for the same reasons I felt sorry and hope the got better. But as for my son, I was feeling a lot. And this is from someone people sometimes call near emotionless. And my gf was able to sense my concern and worry for him. Having to see him in that bed with machines hooked up to him and having a nurse constantly checking in on him. I'm so glad he's healthy now and nearly 3 and a half years old now. But that thought and memory are still relatively new.
People's Temple and (allegedly, assuming the ATF didn't invent *all* the evidence) the Branch Davidians tried to do this as well. Don't think it worked there either.
There's also an entire genre of documentary in Israel made by Kibbutz kids talking about how it affected them - and some of the utterly bizzare things that were seen as unhealthy. My mother told me about a kid who kept running away to his parents and was considered a "problem child" to the extent the child minders would be standing over his bed at night to make sure he didn't run off.
“It’s Victorian capitalism that created bed-times” Actually incorrect. The upper aristocracy didn’t care for bed-times they were quite happy to stay up late and drink and eat all night. It was actually a working class concept that was brought in as it allowed their families to structure their lives around their work, hobbies, schooling, tea-times and sleep. You could say that it was that of the “oppressive” factory owners who forced them into this (and atleast the people of Victorian Britain can somewhat claim this as those fuckers got worked to death quite often) but in truth it was something of a working class trope already as even going back further they would usually have sleep times to attend farm work, or military work or shop work and so on. The bed-time isn’t some capitalist invention. It’s a standard time of sleep that people recognise your body needs, especially after working a long shift - something these socialite commies have never done.
That's because they're children that are constantly seeking approval. It's not enough for them to just stay up or sleep as late or early as they want. Nobody is stopping them. They have to make sure everyone knows they're doing it and try to force people to approve of it.
Such ruthless oppression by the adult class needs to be brought to an end!!! Children are every bit as capable as adults! Legalize children factory labor!!!
I can't imagine having a life so thoroughly devoid of joy that I would become a radical activist who blamed capitalism and the Hwite Man for everything I am personally doing wrong.
As a insomniac this is kinda insulting. Kids complaining that they have to get up early and cant stay up late at the same time is really demeaning to someone who has to take pills in order to maintain a job.
Amen!!! 👍🏽 I'm a congenital insomniac who even kept my mom up when I was still a fetus; and zolpidеm is the only way I can work in a diurnal world when I can't so night shifts. The people who could "take a nap" as kids (a magic trick to me!) and who can sleep whenever and wherever they want ("communal sleeping spaces"!) should check their damn sleep privilege.
Sleep isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I mean one traumatic experience and you'll have endless nightmares for the rest of your life. Still tho I doubt these cushy lifestyle craps ever had trauma outside of being called the wrong pronoun and being looked at wrong. So I'm sure they dream of segregated safe spaces and gulags for straight white men.
To be fair to teenagers, it's been proven that making them get up early isn't actually good for them. Sure, they can go to bed early, but the actual restful portion of sleep in teens doesn't start until midnight or later, irc. So, making them get up for school at like 7 am isn't great.
I thought that "Anti-Bedtime Aktion" was just you accusing Antifa of being adult children. I had no idea, no fucking clue that you meant it literally. This, this is hilarious.
Once knew a college girl who would lecture me about women of color like her are being oppressed. Then we were talking about how she was deciding between a year abroad in Spain or Italy \_('-')_/
I really do wonder what part of them knows it's bullshit. Do they just recite the mantras, because that is what they know? Does the truth sneak up on them every now and then, and they have to actively repress it, lest they come to terms with how wrong they have been? Or are the full-on Orwellian Double-thinkers?
Oppression is necessary. For example, I want the criminals to be oppressed and detained in prison so they don't commit crimes that hurt the rest of us. If you don't like a rule, try to figure out why it's enforced first before trying to abolish it.
This opinion has nuances. In Russia penitence system is rough. It breaks majority of people who went into a prison. And even if you were able to keep your humanity, after you're free you won't be allowed to be hired at normal jobs, so the only road is to the bottom of society. That's why former prisoners end up in criminal business again. To quote a classic movie, 'I stole, I got drunk, I went into prison. Several times.' But does it help to prevent crime? Also no, criminal rate is one of the highest in Europe.
@@popopopoqwerty there is no nuance. The system is very simple. The abuse of that system to oppress people is very different to the legitimate oppression of people who abused others. A bank robber should be oppressed by imprisonments. It should not be a minor inconvenience. Your concern is that the severity of the system is an issue. I suggest it is a more broad problem with Russia, that has problems with creating legitimate political power, undermining the legitimacy of the prison system generally. Crime should not pay. But you also shouldn’t make criminals if possible!
@@Xplora213 i guees thats why Norway, the country with like the laxest prison ever (decent room, furniture, access to books and a TV) has a crime rebound rate of like 20% whereas the USA where its bunk bed and slave labour has a rebound rate of 70%? I guess what system you prefer comes down to if you believe that criminals should feel punished or if you simply want to reduce crime because you can't have the cake and eat it too in this instance
@@Xplora213 Man, I get your point on being harsh. I believe in being very tough on real horrible crimes like rape, murder, hit and run, etc. But if I'm sending some guy to prison for drug usage and give him all of that shit, he's certain to rebound because he'll be pissed. Criminals SHOULD feel punished if they are genuinely human scum and only live to make shit worse for others without learning.
I'm 27, my parents are wealthy, and I'm currently "staying with them." And even then, my mom and dad haven't given me any of it. And for that I thank them. It built a sense of self worth, and because of it I know I need to get the fuck out of my parents house. Before covid I'd been planning to move out with a friend, but then covid hit, and he decided to stay where he was at. I could have moved out by myself, but that would have been temporary anyway, because housing prices where I was at soared 700%. So I stayed with my folks, as they were planning to move back to a state I was planning to anyway. Nowadays, I'm usually gone for most of the day, work and am going to school to get an IT degree. Mainly because I want to live for something more than leechdom (even if I'm not really one as I'm self aware and do whatever I can to make it easier on them, it still feels like it), perpetual boredom and being a member of my school's hidden, toxic socialist club (I know it exists, I just can't see it nor want to find it). I want to be able to provide for myself and someone else. That's my goal right now. I'm grateful for everything my parents have done for me and my brother. But I also want to make enough to allow them to be supported in their retirement. That, and I owe my dad a damn plane. And I do it all on 6-7 hours of sleep. Sometimes none, but that's life. Holy Shit it's 3 am. Good night.
Yeah, a consistent sleep schedule is generally a lot healthier than just going to bed whenever. The weeks I go with a consistent schedule I feel much better than the weeks where I sleep when I can.
Kids don’t have freedoms for a reason, they are children, they haven’t yet learned how to behave, self regulate, and don’t poses enough knowledge of the world.
@@lightghost7524 no, it’s the reality that on average kids don’t know as much as the adults around them, and tomorrow they will be adults who know more than the kids around them. It’s a cycle as old as civilization.
The Paradox of Personal Freedom, without self imposed rules one eventually becomes a slave to their vices, and they are just as cruel as any taskmaster. It is only through voluntarily restricting ones own freedom aka Discipline that one is truly free, ironic.
@@GodOfOrphans I have often had the thought that the truths that comprise wisdom have within them a paradox. It is as if the paradox is the animating force of such types of truths.
@@shoa4566 Pretty much everything becomes a paradox if you dig deep enough or take them to their ultimate conclusion or extreme. The problem is stuff that implodes at the first hurdle and has to make stuff up to even function at the most basic level ( *cough* Marxism *cough*) that's how you know it's downright defective and not just a natural paradox
I guarantee that if, by some miracle, this commune is created, some people will choose to form nuclear families anyway, and those who organized it will be called on their bluff. They don't want people to choose whatever lifestyle they choose, they want people to choose utter anarchy.
I think it would also become a safe haven for pedos and murderers. Nobody would be smart enough or have the actual time to suss out these people, because everyone would be too tired or their ties would be too loose to care. Same as when you see a murder on TV, and are just like awww, sucks for them. They also don't want the police, so that already eliminates the core group of crime solvers, and possibly passes it off to social workers, who aren't known for being great or not depressed by their work. :
Funny how he pretty much only ever says that about XY individuals and not XX. He's always telling us to "grow up" but never the literal "overgrown children with tits"
Reminds me of a book I read as a kid where a nanny got him to be okay with bedtime by just letting him see what happened when he went to bed whenever he felt like it-that is, just being massively tired and cranky when you inevitably have to go about your day later
I will never understand these people bedtimes are opression, but other people voting to make you change your job, undergo training and relocate against your will, thats utopia.
Its becasue they are lying about what they belive is utopia and oppression. Most Communists know they are wrong, and find it amusing to harm innocent people. They are evil, mentally Ill people.
few problems... nothing like homelessness, food insecurity, the minimum wage being too low to live on in any state, the police getting increasingly violent at peaceful protests, high crime rates that don't go down with militarized police, the shittiest healthcare system in the world (when considering that most countries have healthcare that's free and preforms better than ours), crippling student debt, a huge debt crisis, corporations owning a majority of politicians, racial inequality etc. you know just minor inconveniences
These problems won't be solved and some are not problems anyways,we don't values these issues as much.i as an Indian would like a non woke country than one which did not have these problems you speak of.
@@rassilkrishnan8940 ... I'm sorry I literally cannot comprehend how free healthcare and free education, an extremely normal thing in the developed world, is less important than "woke culture." My guy, please define woke culture... trust me it exists but in the capacity it currently exists in... it shouldn't outweigh healthcare at all
@@ataaamic6321 free healthcare is not a right,it is a privilege of a very rich society with no external obligations and also preferably a smaller more homogeneous nation with lesser complications implementation.usa is doomed to never have good sustainable healthcare as current cultural and demographics in the us will cause it to devolve to a money pit and will add to worser debt situation.if you want free cheap and sustainable healthcare,you have to have a easily controllable, homogeneous demographics, homogeneous values and small population.
The Left: "Were going to bring the revolution" The State: "You've accomplished your goal, now go up against wall. You know too much" The Left: "Uhhh... but im a fellow comrade" The State: "Youre not important"
@@terryreese9771 "The useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of the Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point: never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. *THEY KNOW TOO MUCH* . Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power-obviously they get offended-they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.” - Yuri A. Bezmenov 1985
The destruction of the nuclear family sounds like an absolute nightmare. Children and Teenagers are much more likely to be sexually abused, when in the care of of non blood related Guardians
Construct: Noun. An offhanded way to dismiss a practice, philosophy, or reality in order to pre-digest it for the furtherance of cognitive dissonance. Individual results may vary. "Pudlow Broomstock of Antifa Called it anti-trans and anti-black; He cursed Gravity, that racist construct - His folly ended with a meaty 'Splat'."
I don't know, they want to be all inclusive with their commune shite and abolishing the nuclear family, that they want to welcome people with mental illnesses, but have they considered that some people have mental illnesses and personality quirks that keep them out of the public ? I suffer from a personality issue that makes it difficult for me to go to the convenience store get cigarettes. Facing people is super difficult for me. My privacy is a matter of mental health for me. I would be so anxious and uncomfortable in a setting like that that I would break within days, "treatment" or not. They say they are all-inclusive, but it's simply a fever dream to think this is achievable. I'm speaking about just one thing about human conditions that would make this impossible, there is millions of things like this. It's like they don't think beyond what makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Personality disorders can be "cured" with extreme doses of invasive therapy, but things like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, even dementia can't really be fixed. What do with them?
I think it'd depend on the scenario with the "eat what I make or don't eat" thing. A lot of kids have chores obviously, but don't gain anything out of it. We should still teach kids that they should expect something from their labor, do if you can't do an allowance, give them little privileges now and then. Let them choose dinner on Saturday nights or something, or stay up later, as long as their chores stay being done. Basically I think there's room to give kids a bit of a say as long as they're still showing the appreciation of work.
Your 'reward' is a roof over your head clothes on your back, food in your belly, and having grown adults looking out for you. The fact that you think that's not enough tells me you're a kid yourself. When you get older you'll realize what I just described usually costs tens of thousands of dollars a year and that doesn't even factor in giving your time to take care of another person.
There's also a time factor with food. When both parents work full-time (or it's a single, working parent), there are limits to the amount of time you want to spend on cooking. Now imagine you cook for four (or more). If you only prepare what everyone likes, it's getting rough. Kids survive food they don't much like. My sibling hates raisins, the rest of us love them. Guess who got to pick them either out or eat them? I do like your concept of getting extra consideration for doing extra chores! It's more or less what I did with my spawn.
Obviously, you gotta give the kids what they want sometime, especially if they earn it like, for instance, they aced an exam or helped dad with the house painting. Encourage your kids to love hard work, not dread it.
@@Laneous14 You want to teach them the value of hard work? Then teach them the _value_ of hard work. I've had nephew stay with us before. Trust me, bribery goes a long way. I mean, would you try and force a pill down Rover's gob? Or would you wrap it in cheese? As Mary Poppins put it, "Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
The people that take this idea seriously, are people that do not respect other people's time. Some people wake up early and some are night owls, but when it comes to working together, there is a collective agreement that we will work the same stipulated time. It is not fun to deal with colleagues who have a different time zone, because when you have put in 8 hours at work, then you have to attend another meeting 2 hrs after your work time. I speak from experience, it pisses me off when I am assigned to deal with countries that have more than 3 hr difference. And if you think children are ok with free bedtime, what of the teacher that is required to answer their questions during class? Is the teacher's time not valueable?
Yes. The Left is a cult created by a higher cult/cabal. That's exactly what they are and it is reflected in their methods and behaviour. They're all angels of light and everyone else is a bigoted extremist.
What I started to notice with this ultra collective ideologies is that the concept of work is never actually mentioned, only the fact that the workers will have control of it. You never see the how, when, why, who or where of the work, never see any pre-planning about the framework that will be used to make sure things can happen and still have a good amount of productivity to ensure the needs of the people are addressed.
There is no way these people actually believe this stuff, at this point there using the "i'm oppressed by this thing I don't like" to get rid of things they don't like
Oh but they do. Go look into some of the absolutely lunatic barking at the moon batshit insane policies that were forcibly implemented in France after the revolution or in the Soviet Union once the Bolsheviks won and came to power. It's so insane you'll think it's made up, because no sane person could even come up with these ideas, leave alone force them via the military and police on entire countries; but they actually happened.
I'm not a parent, but kids don't get enough sleep, move school times back, make the school day shorter. Little kids need like 10-12 hours of sleep. Put me on team bedtime.
@@Xplora213 you are lucky.. had to be ON THE SCHOOL BUS BY 6:15 AM...the school bell rang at like 7:50. Class started at like 8. Didnt end till 3. Got home off bus by 4 20ish. Only lived 12 minutes from the school. The bus route was cancer.
"Before capitalism people could choose when they wanted to go to bed, and it will be the same under communism" I already can imagine, him losing social credit score as well as getting punishment for skipping daily agricultural work)
So, these people are basically admitting to being bratty children who see "bed time" as being oppressive? Pouting that they arnt tired as they are visibly fighting the urge to sleep lol Fantastic.
The "eat what I make or don't eat" line is interesting. Because it shows they have bad parents. If your kid doesn't like something, why are you making it for them? There's thousands of recipes out there. If you can't find a reasonable compromise between foods they want and foods that aren't just candy, then you didn't look hard enough. This is why I think things are this bad. A generation of narcissists raised another generation of contrarian narcissists.
No kids in the west should learn to eat food that may not taste the best.deal with it or get beaten black and blue.seriously,these people need to be hunted down and beaten.that would solve most of these woke problems.but boohoo liberals won't allow for their ideological children to be beaten right, pathetic.
This community bullshit sounds awful as it sounds more like a depression era shantytown only with wokies, no thanks I need both my privacy and alone time as that's how I relax being an introvert. Without that living in one of these societies would be a nightmare as I would to crazy due to the lack of sleep because if the obvious mass drug use and crime that something like this would create.
Nailed it. But unfortunately they don't recognize how lazy they are. Even their communal kitchen would fall apart because no one would ever want to do the dishes; trash would pile up; rats would be the only hard-working residents in their commie camp.
Serious question: what happens in one of these collectivized villages when somebody gets tired of cooking all day for the others, or working all day in the medical tent? I have a feeling they don't get to peacefully go their own way or change professions leaving their position empty
The mind boggles. Have they not had to deal with a tired child? Also, the discipline of keeping a schedule is good for you. Everybody needs some structure in their lives, it helps with the mental pressures of life knowing that you have something, even a small and seemingly inconsequential thing like a sleep routine, to ground you and give you something to rely on.
As someone who loves his parents very much even I we don't always agree politically, the "will you parents be put to the wall" segment made me physically ill
You missed it on the "kids eat the food that I make them" piece Dev! The correct answer is: I AM THE STATE! YOU EAT WHAT WE TELL YOU TO! One would think the Left would be comfortable with that...
I saw the anti-bedtime shit like once (thanks to you talking about it on Twitter but I refuse to believe all this shit is anything but a troll. Please tell me it’s just a troll
If you're an adult, your bedtime is 100% self-imposed. The only explanations for this that make sense are that wokeists either want children to be held to the same standard as adults (which is only going to accelerate the collapse of future generations), or they just want any sense of personal responsibility abolished and go full-on hedonist. The irony is that at the same time they also *need* a powerful and coercive state to achieve their goals. They want to not be held accountable for their hedonism but still have a powerful entity take care of them and make all the important decisions for them. They really are just overgrown children.
lol i might've spoken too soon, naomi may not be available tonight. but i'm streaming anyway so be there! twitch.tv/gameboomers
See, she has a real job, not like your lazy ass...
Or mine for that matter.
used to be in the discord server, then randomly it vanished, now it doesnt allow me to accept the invite
Do you think you'll ever get a verified on brave?
Why don't you just let these people do what they like. They should be allowed to fuck their lives up without any support from the outside. Communism is the best way to allow stupid people to starve themselves without having anyone else take responsibility for their retardation.
feminism : marxism in a skirt
As a Nigerian-immigrant currently working and schooling in North America, I have come to one conclusion: Social Justice, wokeness and progressivism can ONLY exist in a developed, liberal and first-world nation/region where there are very few existential threats and where the purposeless masses in urban areas have to create some form of ideology to fill the void in their lives. That is why it makes no sense and destroys that society. That is also why rural westerners, non-western countries and immigrants mostly tend to hate social justice and wokeness more than the native citizens.
You got to the same conclusion as me. Being a Venezuelan immigrant, there's nothing that annoys me more than seeing a bunch of people with no experience in life whatsoever preaching about how good are the ideas that have pretty much destroyed my country
True, the regions with high "wokeness" influences in Brazil are mostly present in developed areas
@@waywardstoner9416 You just don't really see it in working class areas. People have bigger things to deal with that crap like this.
true, people without real problems wil make the problems for themselves, there was a mice experiment in which they were simply given all the food they could want, their behaviour changed, no more survival needed, some simply stopped breeding even others only did it, they even factionalised
Sad but true.
Marxism has literally always been a pastime for the self-hating bourgeois. That's who Karl himself was, a leech who was handed everything he had, which was a lot more than what the "workers of the world" had in his day.
Correct, similar to how feminism is run by women who resent being women.
Never understood how the guy who spent years studying economics and writing a book on economics is given so much credibility when he kept his own family in poverty despite averaging four times the income of a skilled laborer. Like you can't manage your own finances but you would make a prescription for the rest of the world?
@@mrspeigle1 Lack of self-awareness, which is something that is shared between those people. They think they know it all but fail to do any sort of self-reflection and watch the world before they open their mouths.
@@combinecommando001 Thats because *nothing* is their fault. They are positively perfect in every way. If you are perfect, and NEVER at fault for your screw ups then of course you'll never bother to reflect.
Of course, we know better, and I think deep down so do they, which is why the react the way they do. That's generally how ppl who are forced to confront such truths tend to react
I think they're just evil. They resent others, so they devise a system that will give them power over others, or at least turn society inside out and cause a bunch of misery. Otherwise they're dumber than flat earthers - and if the latter is true, the why are they so influential?
They're evil. They know what they're doing.
"Now I am become sleepy, the goer to bed." J. Robert Oppenheimer, father of the PJs, after drinking warm milk.
Goddamnit, I kek'd
Man this is such a horrible twist to a legendary quote
I love it
State: It's not _YOUR_ bedtime. It's the _community's_ bedtime. This is real freedom.
You can't spell "Eight Hours Of Rest" without OUR
They truly are Borg. I would get absolutely ZERO sleep in a creepy commie "shared sleeping space". I can envision them all "sleeping" like the Borg -- standing motionless and temporarily powering down.
@@zxyatiywariii8 not the drug addicts. They’ll be up for some time. They get free syringes to keep the party going until their organs start to fail in alphabetical order. And before then, they’ll steal your shoes.
That's called a "curfew."
Thanks, Rousseau.
Those who want to abolish bedtime either:
1. Can't properly discipline their children.
2. Don't have children.
3. Are children themselves.
Incredibly accurate
I am guessing an enormous correlation with being abortion positive.
Bedtime is so fundamental to a child’s existence, and the utter misery of parents who don’t have children that sleep well should be the warning bell to any progressive parents that they are not smarter than biology. Reality is the true teacher and many progressive parents are forced to put their kids onto sleep routines as a prevention for serious mental illness episodes after their hippy bullshit doesn’t work and they’re telling their doctor they are about to hurt someone.
Just imagine the kid screeching demonically for 8 hours straight (like that video of the kid on the airplane.)
Ngl it sounds like some of the most hilarious stunted development I've ever seen. Pretty sure in some sense every one of them is #3.
4. Both 2 and 3
This feels like a punchline in a Calvin and Hobbs comic that a bunch of people took literally
I can see Calvin ranting about this.
it's a job for Stupendous Man. (gets stuck in locker)
@@TM_AZ There's a real Calvin and Hobbes comic strip where Calvin literally states, "This is tyranny!" in response to bedtime, so that's pretty accurate.
@@TM_AZ yeah, like a couple of these rants SHO read off, I imagined Calvin saying in the second panel of the comic, then his parents say something in the third panel like "well we always clean the house for an hour before we go to bed so you can help!" then Calvin chooses to go to bed of his own accord
That was my thought too. I need to find those books again. For every batshit crazy left idea, there has to be a C&H piss take analogy.
This is literally a Babylon Bee article: "Five-Year-Old Starts 'Abolish Bedtime' Movement" June 15th, 2020
I still can't get used to the Babylon Bee's transition from right wing satirical paper to groundbreaking progressive think tank
*Capitalism*
Employer: "I need someone to work during these hours of the day in exchange for this amount of pay."
Worker 1: "I am willing to provide labor for that period of time in exchange for pay"
Employer: "Then we have a deal. See you then."
Worker 2: "I wish to work, but for X Y and Z reasons I cannot work within that timespan."
Employer: "Here, you may either take this seperate shift of time, or you may find employ at another place with time slots more amenable to you."
Worker 2: "Thank you, I shall consider my options. Good thing I can choose and consent to whether I want to work or not."
*Communism*
Commissar: "Comrade, you have been assigned to this facility. You shall work all day from sunrise to sunset. Only break will be meal time where you are provided moldy bread, thin soup, and, if we meet production quotas, a small shot of vodka. If you are caught slacking off or falling asleep, you will be shot and given to the fertilizer factory."
Serf: "Excuse me commissar, but can I work somewhere el-*BLAM*"
Commissar: "Now you work in fertilizer factory. NEXT!"
Yeah they seem to think they can do as they wish without realizing they're going to be tossed into a role that is needed or the role that is perceived to be needed. Because let's be real, these people think they'll be allowed to paint and play games all day to then go to Starbucks and get free coffee.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 And I have no idea how you can be both that poorly educated, as well as being so stupid to not see through it.
Tss, completely unrealistic, as if he’d ever get bread or vaguely whitish water
That's fake. Reassignemnet of schedules happened all the time in soviet russia OMEGALUL
I once remember a madlad, a true rebel who stayed up past his bedtime, he played games until its 9 PM.
Such rebellion...
no one dares go past the 9.30PM limit, unspeakable horrors await past then
@@thejoyfullad970 once you reach 10pm, you never come back
@@lloydalvarez2819 just like going into a black hole
Pfff armatures I stayed up till 9:31
Hilariously, the 8 hour day (8 hrs work, 8 hrs play, 8 hrs sleep) was conceptualized into labor law by unions. Again they forget their own origins.
Its definitely one thing I can get behind. 8 hours of sleep is a rather healthy amount, 8 hours of work generally allows for enough work to get done assuming everyone works, and 8 hours of play (though it will also be consumed by other things) will allow enough time to be satisfied and have personal time.
Communist constructs are capitalist constructs. Lies are truth, fiction is fact, men are women.
It's at the point where I think it's more realistic for these people to be foreign agents attempting disruption than real individuals who think these things. But maybe that's optimistic about how dumb people can be.
Having done eight hour days/five days a week and ten hour days/four days a week I think I prefer the ten hour days and three day weekends
@@seantaylor2683 that's also a good route to go. The only time I'd be against it is if I'm taking classes. Because I've worked 10 hour days with 3 hours of class and the commute to both is also a factor in how much time you have and it was exhausting. But if its just work, as I said before, its also a nice alternative.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 you can add at least 3 more hours into the work part because of commute and responsibilities.
Peak decadence. The fact that they can even consider stuff like this to be a problem is peak decadence and proof they have no real problems. Even wealthy kings of ancient nations couldn't afford to stay up past sundown every night. Torches and candles were expensive.
Exactly, this is why Mediaeval serfdom functioned based on the sun -- and probably primeval people too. It's ironic these caviar commies want to ignore time but also address climate change -- they can't treat night the same as day without using even more power to do so.
That said, I'm a congenital night owl so I understand the impulse. But I made it work for me by taking night shifts and swing shifts. I'm at my best working the 11 pm to 7 am shift.
There's PLENTY of real problems, they do this because they have NO solution to those problems, and thanks to their ideology, they never will. And they know it, even though they'll never admit it. So they make up childish "problems" to "fix" so they don't ever actually have to think
Torches and candles were the bougie lighting methods, with rushlights and simple wick lamps to provide some weak light. There was just nothing much to do past sundown.
@@zxyatiywariii8 The key is having _a regular schedule_, whatever that schedule is (when I was younger, I preferred night shift, too. But I made darned sure I got my winks during the day.)
I think these people have a lot of problems, but they aren't material problems. The ideology is used to explain why they feel bad. "if equality is solved I won't feel like shit anymore", kind of thinking. They project on anything that bothers them in the world and not realize the problem is within themselves.
Leftists in a Western pseudo-capitalist economy: "Time is a capitalist construct!"
Leftists in a Communist economy: "I finished my eighteen hour shift in the mines! May I please have today's ration chit? ... please?"
Youre forgetting: "But your coworker did 120% of his norm, so you're getting only 83% of the ration chit now."
@@pirig-gal Ah, but comrade, You get 60% of your ration chit, because i did such a good job supervising and the extra rations will keep me more alert next shift.
Capitalism? Communism? Socialism? It doesn’t matter because people will always find a way to cheat the system and like the saying goes monkey see monkey do so if someone finds a “bug” In the system people will come and ask how you did it and they will tell more people and more people and when rich people try doing it and someone try’s fixing the “ bug” and unlike a video game people won’t just forget about it and move on the rich ones will lobby to keep the law how it is to keep getting the same amount of money without harm to their wallets and the cycle continues
Pseudo-capitalism is a good term for what we have now. It's certainly not a remotely free market.
@@yoruemiya9196 it does matter because I’m a capitalist system you have more freedoms which make dealing with bull easier plus the easiest way to make money in a capitalist system is to provide something people want while in a socialist system you have less freedom and cheat the system using bureaucracy which isn’t something people want.
This "bedtime debate" looks like perma-children who want to stick it to mom and dad for the crime of having a sleep schedule.
Next they'll be decrying the tyranny of eating green vegetables and how they should be eliminated from meals entirely and replaced with ice scream.
An adult would have to know how important bedtime is, right?
Do they not know that people go insane in places like Alaska?
@@SymmetricalDocking is that why it’s the only place that’s not Florida to have a bunch of crazy killers in the USA
Note: I was making fun of the Florida man thing but seriously tho i know that Alaska is infamous for its serial killers
"But bedtime is real"
No, that must be parody. Gender is a construct, but the time we send our kids to bed is real?
As someone with sleeping problems, I WISH it was real. Like, every day when it is 9PM the brain shut down into sleep mode.
Yuri Bezmenov warned us about this, they would blur the lines of the very reality we live in.
Being able to stay up past sunset is a social construct.
Bedtime isn't "real." It's a construct. Like most constructs, we built it to provide helpful structure. An exercise schedule is a construct, but it helps you become more healthy.
@@magustrigger9195 that's what makes it even funnier, communists are so stupid they just clap and bark like sea lions with a head injury if you suggest anything that sounds like a communist would say it. Even if you're making fun of them.
"Before capitalism people could choose when they went to bed, it will be the same under Communism"
"COMRADE, GO TO YOUR BUNK! YOUR SHIFT AT THE COPPER MINE STARTS IN 5 HOURS!"
Before capitalism most people had to go to bed when the sun went down.
@@JoshuaKennedy321 yep, their day was mostly dictated by sunlight. There were people who would be awake at night for both safety reasons and some would still hunt at night, but a big factor was how much you can see. Then the light bulb revolutionized civilization. Now I can drive a car at 3 am if I have to.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 Things that used to be impossible are now expected of us on a daily basis.
"socialists don't respect labor" sounds like an amazing idea for a video.
I second this notion.
Yeah, would be funny to talk about how they call real hard-working people from farms and factories "racists" and "fascists" just cause they live in a Republican state.
Marx also hated actual work.
Socialists: I have finally freed you from the tractors and combines that stole your jobs. Now you can till with horse-driven ploughs and thresh with your bare hands again!
Do these people really think that people thousands of years ago didn't have to get up early to hunt, gather, or farm in order to survive?
A lot of them really believe that hunter-gatherer life was like the Garden of Eden. Just walk around and pick up food with no hardships. I've legit had arguments with leftists that think the agricultural revolution was a mistake.
Yes they do. They use Natives as an example without knowing anything other than we lived in tribes. They don't understand we had separate houses/tepees for a family unit, many had an area to farm to grow food for themselves rather than some collective, the women made clothing for their families not everyone, etc. The only thing that was done as a collective like they imagine, is ceremonies and moving. Yes if my sister-in-law lost her husband she would be cared for. By her husband's family, not the tribe as a whole. It was only in extreme situations that the entire tribe cared for someone or something.
To be fair, the Roman citizen had no set time that he had to be at work. He woke up when he did, probably skipped breakfast and casually made his way to his job - maybe with a couple of casual stops along the way. Everyone would be home before dark and they only worked for half of the year (lots of off-days and events/festivals).
The way the workday is structured today is a very recent thing but these people are obviously kids larping as revolutionaries.
A lot of them deny the existence of the world before they where born
@@araaraaura1887 "I've legit had arguments with leftists that think the agricultural revolution was a mistake."
Ummm... The agricultural revolution was fucking horrible. I would argue that it was a mistake and that we had to wait 10,000 years for the industrial revolution to finally liberate us from the horrors of the agricultural revolution. Of coarse industrialization isn't perfect either. It's coming at the expense of the environment. I bet we will fix that problem and then more goddamn problems will occur from another source. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction and all.
This is because mother nature hates all her children and wants them all to suffer no matter what. Thus here we are.
I'm so glad I was liberated from my bed time, I now identify as tired all the time
Keep doing it for a long ass time, and you'll identify as Tyler Durden.
you're now being oppressed with the consequences, another white cis male capitalist construct. we need a war on consequences to address this violence
(to the tune of "Party All The Time" with Eddie Murphy)
I feel like Im tired all the time, tired all the time, tired all the ti-ime!
And a big boy/girl
The Kibbutz communes actually tried the whole "communal child rearing" thing. Turns out that parents would almost always try to stay with their children and give them as many advantages as they could. Who'da thunk?
Yeah, its almost like this is my flesh and blood, I'm naturally am going to have a bond with them. Literally when my son was born I didn't realize how much I cared about him until he had to go to the NICU for a few days and I felt a huge wave of worry. It was then that I realized just how much I care about someone I barely knew. And I never felt that way before. If I hear other children getting sent there for the same reasons I felt sorry and hope the got better. But as for my son, I was feeling a lot. And this is from someone people sometimes call near emotionless. And my gf was able to sense my concern and worry for him. Having to see him in that bed with machines hooked up to him and having a nurse constantly checking in on him. I'm so glad he's healthy now and nearly 3 and a half years old now. But that thought and memory are still relatively new.
People's Temple and (allegedly, assuming the ATF didn't invent *all* the evidence) the Branch Davidians tried to do this as well. Don't think it worked there either.
There's also an entire genre of documentary in Israel made by Kibbutz kids talking about how it affected them - and some of the utterly bizzare things that were seen as unhealthy. My mother told me about a kid who kept running away to his parents and was considered a "problem child" to the extent the child minders would be standing over his bed at night to make sure he didn't run off.
“It’s Victorian capitalism that created bed-times”
Actually incorrect.
The upper aristocracy didn’t care for bed-times they were quite happy to stay up late and drink and eat all night.
It was actually a working class concept that was brought in as it allowed their families to structure their lives around their work, hobbies, schooling, tea-times and sleep.
You could say that it was that of the “oppressive” factory owners who forced them into this (and atleast the people of Victorian Britain can somewhat claim this as those fuckers got worked to death quite often) but in truth it was something of a working class trope already as even going back further they would usually have sleep times to attend farm work, or military work or shop work and so on.
The bed-time isn’t some capitalist invention. It’s a standard time of sleep that people recognise your body needs, especially after working a long shift - something these socialite commies have never done.
Plus, y'know, the dark. That enforced bedtime for a long time.
@@daviddechamplain5718 I was about to mention this too. Can't work on what you can't see.
Those damn victorian capitalist cows.
People can still choose their bed time and choose their line of work. These people are severely handicapped on the ideals of freedom.
Well they *are* communists 🤷♂️
Their idea of freedom is forcing everyone else to think and behave like them.
Yeah night/evening shift jobs are a thing.
yeah
That's because they're children that are constantly seeking approval. It's not enough for them to just stay up or sleep as late or early as they want. Nobody is stopping them. They have to make sure everyone knows they're doing it and try to force people to approve of it.
Truly satire has transcended reality
Capitalism is when Mom makes me go to bed on time.
Such ruthless oppression by the adult class needs to be brought to an end!!! Children are every bit as capable as adults! Legalize children factory labor!!!
capatalism needs money to exist so it does not dissolve into endless fetch quests
Communist: **trips and falls**
Communist: "Fucking Capitalism"
capitalism is when I have to eat broccoli it’s yucky >:(
I can't imagine having a life so thoroughly devoid of joy that I would become a radical activist who blamed capitalism and the Hwite Man for everything I am personally doing wrong.
I can. It's tempting sometimes. Like... every morning I'm late for work...
@@prycenewberg3976 It's because the driver in front of you was a White Man
@@anthonysmall8438 Probably
As a insomniac this is kinda insulting. Kids complaining that they have to get up early and cant stay up late at the same time is really demeaning to someone who has to take pills in order to maintain a job.
Amen!!! 👍🏽
I'm a congenital insomniac who even kept my mom up when I was still a fetus; and zolpidеm is the only way I can work in a diurnal world when I can't so night shifts. The people who could "take a nap" as kids (a magic trick to me!) and who can sleep whenever and wherever they want ("communal sleeping spaces"!) should check their damn sleep privilege.
Sleep isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I mean one traumatic experience and you'll have endless nightmares for the rest of your life. Still tho I doubt these cushy lifestyle craps ever had trauma outside of being called the wrong pronoun and being looked at wrong. So I'm sure they dream of segregated safe spaces and gulags for straight white men.
They're kids, normally they'd grow out of it but commie grooming,
To be fair to teenagers, it's been proven that making them get up early isn't actually good for them. Sure, they can go to bed early, but the actual restful portion of sleep in teens doesn't start until midnight or later, irc. So, making them get up for school at like 7 am isn't great.
I hear you. It's taken me to my mid 30's to find a sleep cocktail of drugs that work.
The bear guy is the prime example of "everyone is conservative about what they know best"
Police officers to people who work overnights or early in the morning:
"You know the rules and so do I. Say goodbye."
"Why do I have to go to bed early and be on time for school when SOCIETY-"
"Get your ass to bed or I'll beat it blue."
"Yes, mommy..."
I thought that "Anti-Bedtime Aktion" was just you accusing Antifa of being adult children. I had no idea, no fucking clue that you meant it literally. This, this is hilarious.
Now I understand why these people think Jordan Peterson is fascist. He want them to clean their room.
Once knew a college girl who would lecture me about women of color like her are being oppressed. Then we were talking about how she was deciding between a year abroad in Spain or Italy \_('-')_/
I really do wonder what part of them knows it's bullshit. Do they just recite the mantras, because that is what they know? Does the truth sneak up on them every now and then, and they have to actively repress it, lest they come to terms with how wrong they have been? Or are the full-on Orwellian Double-thinkers?
@@Sines314 Their probably full Orwellians
@@Sines314 Well, I'll just say this. You don't have to be very smart to get a college degree.
“Discipline is not oppression.”
- Nightwolf, MK11
Actually true
Discipline is freedom
_>Stay up until 11_
_>Sneak food from the fridge when everyone's asleep_
*PRAXIS*
Oppression is necessary.
For example, I want the criminals to be oppressed and detained in prison so they don't commit crimes that hurt the rest of us.
If you don't like a rule, try to figure out why it's enforced first before trying to abolish it.
This opinion has nuances. In Russia penitence system is rough. It breaks majority of people who went into a prison. And even if you were able to keep your humanity, after you're free you won't be allowed to be hired at normal jobs, so the only road is to the bottom of society. That's why former prisoners end up in criminal business again. To quote a classic movie, 'I stole, I got drunk, I went into prison. Several times.'
But does it help to prevent crime? Also no, criminal rate is one of the highest in Europe.
@@popopopoqwerty there is no nuance. The system is very simple. The abuse of that system to oppress people is very different to the legitimate oppression of people who abused others. A bank robber should be oppressed by imprisonments. It should not be a minor inconvenience. Your concern is that the severity of the system is an issue. I suggest it is a more broad problem with Russia, that has problems with creating legitimate political power, undermining the legitimacy of the prison system generally.
Crime should not pay. But you also shouldn’t make criminals if possible!
@@Xplora213 i guees thats why Norway, the country with like the laxest prison ever (decent room, furniture, access to books and a TV) has a crime rebound rate of like 20% whereas the USA where its bunk bed and slave labour has a rebound rate of 70%?
I guess what system you prefer comes down to if you believe that criminals should feel punished or if you simply want to reduce crime because you can't have the cake and eat it too in this instance
@@Xplora213 Man, I get your point on being harsh. I believe in being very tough on real horrible crimes like rape, murder, hit and run, etc. But if I'm sending some guy to prison for drug usage and give him all of that shit, he's certain to rebound because he'll be pissed. Criminals SHOULD feel punished if they are genuinely human scum and only live to make shit worse for others without learning.
"Don't attempt to cure that which you do not understand"
I'm 27, my parents are wealthy, and I'm currently "staying with them." And even then, my mom and dad haven't given me any of it. And for that I thank them.
It built a sense of self worth, and because of it I know I need to get the fuck out of my parents house. Before covid I'd been planning to move out with a friend, but then covid hit, and he decided to stay where he was at. I could have moved out by myself, but that would have been temporary anyway, because housing prices where I was at soared 700%. So I stayed with my folks, as they were planning to move back to a state I was planning to anyway.
Nowadays, I'm usually gone for most of the day, work and am going to school to get an IT degree. Mainly because I want to live for something more than leechdom (even if I'm not really one as I'm self aware and do whatever I can to make it easier on them, it still feels like it), perpetual boredom and being a member of my school's hidden, toxic socialist club (I know it exists, I just can't see it nor want to find it).
I want to be able to provide for myself and someone else. That's my goal right now. I'm grateful for everything my parents have done for me and my brother. But I also want to make enough to allow them to be supported in their retirement. That, and I owe my dad a damn plane.
And I do it all on 6-7 hours of sleep. Sometimes none, but that's life. Holy Shit it's 3 am. Good night.
All these things have the marks of 'cult'. Control sex, no schedule, separate from the family, make it difficult to get a good night's rest.
I’d consider bedtime to be a good thing, because once I started ignoring it I became addicted to caffeine.
Yeah, a consistent sleep schedule is generally a lot healthier than just going to bed whenever. The weeks I go with a consistent schedule I feel much better than the weeks where I sleep when I can.
Kids don’t have freedoms for a reason, they are children, they haven’t yet learned how to behave, self regulate, and don’t poses enough knowledge of the world.
I’m very tempted to make a woman joke😂
As much as I wish what you state was true, kids do have freedom.
Multi hundred/thousand dollar devices with no regulations, restrictions or oversight.
'Boomers are more knowledgeable than kids' --Theory
@@lightghost7524 no, it’s the reality that on average kids don’t know as much as the adults around them, and tomorrow they will be adults who know more than the kids around them. It’s a cycle as old as civilization.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Aww alright I will have to agree so I don't upset their feelings
I give myself a bed time. Yes... I am my own oppressor.
If you don't command yourself someone or something else will. Best to be your own master
The Paradox of Personal Freedom, without self imposed rules one eventually becomes a slave to their vices, and they are just as cruel as any taskmaster. It is only through voluntarily restricting ones own freedom aka Discipline that one is truly free, ironic.
@@GodOfOrphans I have often had the thought that the truths that comprise wisdom have within them a paradox. It is as if the paradox is the animating force of such types of truths.
@@shoa4566 Pretty much everything becomes a paradox if you dig deep enough or take them to their ultimate conclusion or extreme. The problem is stuff that implodes at the first hurdle and has to make stuff up to even function at the most basic level ( *cough* Marxism *cough*) that's how you know it's downright defective and not just a natural paradox
@@GodOfOrphans good point.
I guarantee that if, by some miracle, this commune is created, some people will choose to form nuclear families anyway, and those who organized it will be called on their bluff. They don't want people to choose whatever lifestyle they choose, they want people to choose utter anarchy.
I think it would also become a safe haven for pedos and murderers. Nobody would be smart enough or have the actual time to suss out these people, because everyone would be too tired or their ties would be too loose to care. Same as when you see a murder on TV, and are just like awww, sucks for them. They also don't want the police, so that already eliminates the core group of crime solvers, and possibly passes it off to social workers, who aren't known for being great or not depressed by their work. :
JP nailed this when he said that these are folks who want to be like Peter Pan, they never want to grow up.
Funny how he pretty much only ever says that about XY individuals and not XX. He's always telling us to "grow up" but never the literal "overgrown children with tits"
Reminds me of a book I read as a kid where a nanny got him to be okay with bedtime by just letting him see what happened when he went to bed whenever he felt like it-that is, just being massively tired and cranky when you inevitably have to go about your day later
Actions having consequences and all that.
Miss Piggle Wiggle?
I see what's going on here.
they are angry that their parents enforce household rules.
yep, sounds like kids or teens to me XD
@@FROZENbender some of them are grown adults still living at home mad at all the rules their parents had over their lifetimes
"They Violated my autonomy!" - Some leftist probably
@@Timic83tc we need to conquer Australia
I will never understand these people bedtimes are opression, but other people voting to make you change your job, undergo training and relocate against your will, thats utopia.
Its becasue they are lying about what they belive is utopia and oppression.
Most Communists know they are wrong, and find it amusing to harm innocent people. They are evil, mentally Ill people.
America is officially the most prosperous country in the world. People have such few problems, that they are literally arguing over bedtimes.
and they also make up silly words like "unfreedom"
few problems... nothing like homelessness, food insecurity, the minimum wage being too low to live on in any state, the police getting increasingly violent at peaceful protests, high crime rates that don't go down with militarized police, the shittiest healthcare system in the world (when considering that most countries have healthcare that's free and preforms better than ours), crippling student debt, a huge debt crisis, corporations owning a majority of politicians, racial inequality etc. you know just minor inconveniences
These problems won't be solved and some are not problems anyways,we don't values these issues as much.i as an Indian would like a non woke country than one which did not have these problems you speak of.
@@rassilkrishnan8940 ... I'm sorry I literally cannot comprehend how free healthcare and free education, an extremely normal thing in the developed world, is less important than "woke culture." My guy, please define woke culture... trust me it exists but in the capacity it currently exists in... it shouldn't outweigh healthcare at all
@@ataaamic6321 free healthcare is not a right,it is a privilege of a very rich society with no external obligations and also preferably a smaller more homogeneous nation with lesser complications implementation.usa is doomed to never have good sustainable healthcare as current cultural and demographics in the us will cause it to devolve to a money pit and will add to worser debt situation.if you want free cheap and sustainable healthcare,you have to have a easily controllable, homogeneous demographics, homogeneous values and small population.
Ah yes, oppressive "capitalist time." Because without separating time into numbers *nobody* would say "It's getting dark, go the fuck to sleep."
The Left: "Were going to bring the revolution"
The State: "You've accomplished your goal, now go up against wall. You know too much"
The Left: "Uhhh... but im a fellow comrade"
The State: "Youre not important"
correction; the state: "you're not pure enough."
alot of people woke up to that reality too late
pretty much. the allies always end up backed to the wall first.
@@terryreese9771 Correction: "you are not useful anymore"
@@terryreese9771 "The useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of the Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point: never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. *THEY KNOW TOO MUCH* . Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power-obviously they get offended-they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.”
- Yuri A. Bezmenov 1985
> am I a spoiled rich kid?
*Y E S*
The destruction of the nuclear family sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Children and Teenagers are much more likely to be sexually abused, when in the care of of non blood related Guardians
Construct: Noun. An offhanded way to dismiss a practice, philosophy, or reality in order to pre-digest it for the furtherance of cognitive dissonance. Individual results may vary.
"Pudlow Broomstock of Antifa
Called it anti-trans and anti-black;
He cursed Gravity, that racist construct -
His folly ended with a meaty 'Splat'."
I seriously thought "Anti-Bedtime Aktion" was silly wording to refer to staying up late, collecting, and eating candy on Halloween
I thought it was a band.
@@louiscypher4186 I thought it was a joke
I thought it was related to the femcels making sure nobody gets any bedtime action.
@@angrybellsprout Same 💀
@@weebishusername9288 I thought, therefore I was.
I say there are two kinds of disfunctional people: those who were beat too much, and those who weren't beat enough.
No one: ... Twitter Tankies: Schedules are a construct by Big Time to sell more clocks.
Time, itself, is a conspiracy!
Father time is literally Hitler.
It's funny, I'm pretty sure that the USSR still had parents, schools and workplaces. Maybe it's not "capitalism" creating those things?
"Abolish bedtime"
Don't complain when I blast bass-boosted music through my stereo when you sleep.
These marxists must have watched Codenames: Kids Next Door thinking it was a revolutionary training series.
this sounds like me and the boys protesting at our primary school and then after 10 mins of it we just fell asleep anyway
Antifa normally: Auth-Left
Antifa when it's time for bed: Lib-Right
I don't know, they want to be all inclusive with their commune shite and abolishing the nuclear family, that they want to welcome people with mental illnesses, but have they considered that some people have mental illnesses and personality quirks that keep them out of the public ? I suffer from a personality issue that makes it difficult for me to go to the convenience store get cigarettes. Facing people is super difficult for me. My privacy is a matter of mental health for me. I would be so anxious and uncomfortable in a setting like that that I would break within days, "treatment" or not. They say they are all-inclusive, but it's simply a fever dream to think this is achievable. I'm speaking about just one thing about human conditions that would make this impossible, there is millions of things like this. It's like they don't think beyond what makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Claustrophobics and Aeroacrophobics will be warring soon enough
Personality disorders can be "cured" with extreme doses of invasive therapy, but things like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, even dementia can't really be fixed. What do with them?
"I grew up extremely wealthy"
Um... no. Your parents are wealthy, you have nothing but what THEY gave to you.
I think it'd depend on the scenario with the "eat what I make or don't eat" thing. A lot of kids have chores obviously, but don't gain anything out of it. We should still teach kids that they should expect something from their labor, do if you can't do an allowance, give them little privileges now and then. Let them choose dinner on Saturday nights or something, or stay up later, as long as their chores stay being done.
Basically I think there's room to give kids a bit of a say as long as they're still showing the appreciation of work.
Your 'reward' is a roof over your head clothes on your back, food in your belly, and having grown adults looking out for you.
The fact that you think that's not enough tells me you're a kid yourself. When you get older you'll realize what I just described usually costs tens of thousands of dollars a year and that doesn't even factor in giving your time to take care of another person.
There's also a time factor with food.
When both parents work full-time (or it's a single, working parent), there are limits to the amount of time you want to spend on cooking.
Now imagine you cook for four (or more). If you only prepare what everyone likes, it's getting rough.
Kids survive food they don't much like. My sibling hates raisins, the rest of us love them. Guess who got to pick them either out or eat them?
I do like your concept of getting extra consideration for doing extra chores! It's more or less what I did with my spawn.
Obviously, you gotta give the kids what they want sometime, especially if they earn it like, for instance, they aced an exam or helped dad with the house painting. Encourage your kids to love hard work, not dread it.
@@Laneous14
You want to teach them the value of hard work? Then teach them the _value_ of hard work.
I've had nephew stay with us before.
Trust me, bribery goes a long way.
I mean, would you try and force a pill down Rover's gob? Or would you wrap it in cheese?
As Mary Poppins put it, "Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
@@Laneous14 As to food?
If get 'em involved with the prep. Then it's somthing they're invested in.
Smarter, not harder.
This is some Children of the Corn level of squabbling. Just in time for harvest season, no less!
When you chilling and hear OUTLANDER! from outside 😳
The people that take this idea seriously, are people that do not respect other people's time. Some people wake up early and some are night owls, but when it comes to working together, there is a collective agreement that we will work the same stipulated time. It is not fun to deal with colleagues who have a different time zone, because when you have put in 8 hours at work, then you have to attend another meeting 2 hrs after your work time. I speak from experience, it pisses me off when I am assigned to deal with countries that have more than 3 hr difference.
And if you think children are ok with free bedtime, what of the teacher that is required to answer their questions during class? Is the teacher's time not valueable?
A few years ago I saw a joke article in a satirical magazine: "Political activist (6) demands end to oppressive bedtime and removal of veggies"
The only thing they got wrong was the age, its missing a digit
"Six steps to abolish the family" feels a lot like instructions to build a cult. Pretty sure it aligns with the defining characteristics of a cult.
Yes. The Left is a cult created by a higher cult/cabal. That's exactly what they are and it is reflected in their methods and behaviour. They're all angels of light and everyone else is a bigoted extremist.
Harriet the Spy: "I hate money."
Sport: "You wouldn't if you didn't have any."
"They don't respect labor."
DEV. They don't respect ANYONE.
Man, this Codename: Kids Next Door reboot is intense.
"Bedtimes are a capitalist victorian idea"
Tell that to pre-victorian farmers, serfs, etc.
Tell that to the freaken cave men who went to sleep when it got dark to avoid freaken predators.
Everyone knows that hunter-gatherers were allowed to sleep in to any time they felt and weren't forced to awaken early to hunt/fish before dawn.
No thanks. Rather not give myself mild brain damage from lack of proper sleep.
It depends on the person I’ve come to only need 4 hours of sleep. It depends on the person, but everyone needs some.
"Wont have bedtimes in Communism."
Soviet and Chinese citizens: Uhm?...
He is definitely correct about the fact that the school system isn't built for humans. Guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Right: the school system is not a good model of liberalism in action, at all.
They created Jeff The Killer-- I say we weaponize him!
"Go to sleep!"
'Time is an illusion. Bedtime doubly so.''
What I started to notice with this ultra collective ideologies is that the concept of work is never actually mentioned, only the fact that the workers will have control of it. You never see the how, when, why, who or where of the work, never see any pre-planning about the framework that will be used to make sure things can happen and still have a good amount of productivity to ensure the needs of the people are addressed.
There is no way these people actually believe this stuff, at this point there using the "i'm oppressed by this thing I don't like" to get rid of things they don't like
Oh but they do. Go look into some of the absolutely lunatic barking at the moon batshit insane policies that were forcibly implemented in France after the revolution or in the Soviet Union once the Bolsheviks won and came to power. It's so insane you'll think it's made up, because no sane person could even come up with these ideas, leave alone force them via the military and police on entire countries; but they actually happened.
@@kevlarandchrome I still feel like some of them are aware that WOKEISM is bullshit and know that indulging in it gives them advantages.
I'm not a parent, but kids don't get enough sleep, move school times back, make the school day shorter. Little kids need like 10-12 hours of sleep. Put me on team bedtime.
9pm 7am is a good schedule choice for sleeping
School is 9-3 here. Don’t need to change school. Put your kids to bed so they are rested regardless of what they need. It’s your own problem, fix it.
@@Xplora213 you are lucky.. had to be ON THE SCHOOL BUS BY 6:15 AM...the school bell rang at like 7:50. Class started at like 8.
Didnt end till 3. Got home off bus by 4 20ish.
Only lived 12 minutes from the school. The bus route was cancer.
"Before capitalism people could choose when they wanted to go to bed, and it will be the same under communism"
I already can imagine, him losing social credit score as well as getting punishment for skipping daily agricultural work)
So, these people are basically admitting to being bratty children who see "bed time" as being oppressive? Pouting that they arnt tired as they are visibly fighting the urge to sleep lol Fantastic.
The "eat what I make or don't eat" line is interesting. Because it shows they have bad parents.
If your kid doesn't like something, why are you making it for them? There's thousands of recipes out there. If you can't find a reasonable compromise between foods they want and foods that aren't just candy, then you didn't look hard enough.
This is why I think things are this bad. A generation of narcissists raised another generation of contrarian narcissists.
No kids in the west should learn to eat food that may not taste the best.deal with it or get beaten black and blue.seriously,these people need to be hunted down and beaten.that would solve most of these woke problems.but boohoo liberals won't allow for their ideological children to be beaten right, pathetic.
So my sleeping disorder is a filthy Commie? Ew. They ARE getting sneaky.
This community bullshit sounds awful as it sounds more like a depression era shantytown only with wokies, no thanks I need both my privacy and alone time as that's how I relax being an introvert. Without that living in one of these societies would be a nightmare as I would to crazy due to the lack of sleep because if the obvious mass drug use and crime that something like this would create.
@Doom3Guy That actually sounds somewhat decent Atleast then I can pretend im a guardsmen and listen to the wonderful sound of artillery everynight
Reminds me of a lot of the American communes and cults of the 20th century. Especially the talk around raising children.
It's not that he got $100,000 off his mum, it's what he probably did with it, which was nothing productive...
This is an unnecessarily long way of saying they're lazy.
Nailed it. But unfortunately they don't recognize how lazy they are. Even their communal kitchen would fall apart because no one would ever want to do the dishes; trash would pile up; rats would be the only hard-working residents in their commie camp.
It's the universities and the media.
It's not just money. It's literally the CULTURE.
Serious question: what happens in one of these collectivized villages when somebody gets tired of cooking all day for the others, or working all day in the medical tent? I have a feeling they don't get to peacefully go their own way or change professions leaving their position empty
The mind boggles. Have they not had to deal with a tired child? Also, the discipline of keeping a schedule is good for you. Everybody needs some structure in their lives, it helps with the mental pressures of life knowing that you have something, even a small and seemingly inconsequential thing like a sleep routine, to ground you and give you something to rely on.
Wait until you have a part-time job. Your work (and rest) schedule is bound to be a roll of the dice at that point.
As someone who loves his parents very much even I we don't always agree politically, the "will you parents be put to the wall" segment made me physically ill
There is deep evil in communism that one should keep an eye out for and combated.
You missed it on the "kids eat the food that I make them" piece Dev!
The correct answer is: I AM THE STATE! YOU EAT WHAT WE TELL YOU TO!
One would think the Left would be comfortable with that...
Correction: "YOU EAT WHAT WE GIVE YOU! NO ONE AUTHORIZED YOU TO EAT THAT RAT! THAT RAT IS STATE PROPERTY!"
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As a Vampire once said: "Rest is good for the blood!"
I saw the anti-bedtime shit like once (thanks to you talking about it on Twitter but I refuse to believe all this shit is anything but a troll. Please tell me it’s just a troll
It feels like something 4chan made up ironically and then the wokies globbed onto it genuinely.
I wish I could tell you it’s just a troll but unfortunately these days who knows
Finally leftists tackling my own childhood oppression
If you're an adult, your bedtime is 100% self-imposed. The only explanations for this that make sense are that wokeists either want children to be held to the same standard as adults (which is only going to accelerate the collapse of future generations), or they just want any sense of personal responsibility abolished and go full-on hedonist.
The irony is that at the same time they also *need* a powerful and coercive state to achieve their goals. They want to not be held accountable for their hedonism but still have a powerful entity take care of them and make all the important decisions for them. They really are just overgrown children.
"Bedtimes are capitalist."
Time management and responsibilities oppresses the middle class.
I like how the word "abolition" as been twisted by them so much
Time for the belt to return to keep those rowdy children in check.
I thought "anti-bedtime aktion" was a self-deprecating/ironic joke like the Khazar milkers thing from /pol/, but they're being completely serious.
Due to corona and joblessness, I'm currently running on a 30/12 sleep cycle.
I am paragon of revolution, comrade.