I don’t get why people complain about it being too expensive first of all PlayStation loses money on their console sales within the first year or 2 so they can get to the market early so they have to make that money back and if you want something high end you’re gonna be paying top dollar in the end it’s worth it for a non competitive gamer
Facts when your playing the games are you going to notice the graphics or will you be focused on the gameplay. No one cares about the grass being a bit lighter that doesn't justify me spending nearly £1,000 on this console. I need to see new games running on the pro or I might as well stick with the base model lol. It also needs to run 60fps standard because what is the point of me buying this to play 30fps.
How the fuck did they go "full Apple"? Apple updates their devices every year, and generally they get upgrades across the board, including performance, yet maintain last year's pricing. This would be if Apple took 4 years to release a new phone and doubled the price.
@@fe6ruary I’m not preordering the pro!! Waste of money!! Even digital foundary originally said just get a pc then they backed out on that when they realized I’d everyone had pcs…. It would up the price!!
It’s crazy that the ps4 Pro supported 1440 60. We expected the PS5 to run 4K 60 with no problem yet we still playing upscaled 4K games. The box listed 8k gaming which was laughable. Basically the potential either was never reached or Sony lied.
What game was 1440p 60fps on PS4 Pro? I know PS4 Pro was 1440p 30fps. PS5 Pro is doing PSSR( like DLSS) to get to 8k 60fps. We all got 4k TV so it would Super Sample the image.
@@vincentandrews6230 He's not. If they keep the graphics level at the ps4 level, they would be putting out 4K60 Games. The point is the graphics have also increased in line with the increased GPU. Let's even ignore the part were the PS4 Pro had only a few games that really hit high resolution. A lot of games just had checkerboard rendering.
I feel like It’s not actually that big of a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro … it feels like sony wants people to think its a very big difference so they can sell a lot more units of the pro model ….that’s why these UA-camrs are exaggerating about the difference!
You can feel however you want but the people that actually saw this in person immediately saw a difference. I can even see a difference without my glasses on. You’re just coping.
Well once digital foundry continues to drop videos constantly on how powerful the ps5 pro is, especially with newer games like GTA6 and then take back all the negative things they said about the pro prior to its release than that’s when people will realize how big of a difference there is. But once again….people are not being forced to upgrade, if you afford than good, if you can’t than just stick with the ps5.
There is a big difference in terms of hardware. The issue is that software this generation isn't demanding enough to take advantage of it. So yes, the PS5 pro isn't worth it for many people. But it's not because the hardware is bad for its price. There's just not enough software to take advantage of it.
@@hoshikuzuvenus I get that but think of all the cds that end up in the trash that stuff don't get recycled most of the time . Most likely end up In the ocean or in a foreign 3rd world country. It has its pros and cons
@@FelipeAPinait sucks how wasteful we are i would personally take those especially in this economy games are expensive as hell i collect because i like looking at my shelf grow over time and so i have something to share with people and to pass down to the next generation who hopefully will have the same respect i do
Everyone hating on the pro when it's an option to buy. If you're good with your og then be happy if you want the pro then get it. 4k60 as a staple is enough for me let alone the other features
People forget that in order to achieve these graphics with the fps boost… you’ll need a tv or monitor that supports it. Majority of console players simply won’t notice. Most don’t even have tvs that have HDR. Me personally, as someone who has a tv that is too good for a ps5, I literally cannot tell the difference between fidelity and performance or performance RT besides the slight drop in fps. I mainly play the spider man games and God of war games and I will tell you as god as my witness… you cannot tell the difference between fidelity and performance. so the argument of combining both just isn’t enough to justify imo. I also have a regular ps5 which it only looks better but also has dark plates which are so much better and better looking
I bought the Ps4 pro and the Xbox one x and of course I'm getting the ps5 Pro. People don't understand that you're not going to see the difference unless you're in front of the tv, so watching compressed videos on youtube and pictures from Digital Foundry will not give you the whole picture the only time they will see it is if your at one of their friends house or in a store like best buy were you put a regular ps5 right next to the pro doing comparison I will say sony doesn't understand how to advertise this product because that is the reason so many people are not even looking at the other side of the fence the grass is greener but people are like are you sure.
Realistically speaking, these minor visual upgrades will be completely lost on the majority of customers while they’re actually _playing_ a game. Pretty much all the graphical comparisons Sony demonstrated had the player character standing completely still with the camera locked to a specific direction. I can’t speak for everyone, but I personally keep my hands on the controller while playing games.
I'ts not minor. Overall you'll see games with more ray tracing, and running at 60dfps with higher resolution while PS5 is at 30 or 60 with low graphics.
It depends on the game and the TV you have and even the distance you sit on. For example if you have a decent size 4K Tv and you put Final Fantasy Rebirth at 60fps on the normal PS5 and PS5 Pro then the difference will be obvious as day because the whole screen looks like it has an extra layer of Vaseline compared to the image the PS5 Pro gives. Is like the whole game came back from a P.Diddy party while the PS5 Pro is sharp and clean. So no matter how you move and play you will see it. While if you put Astrobot or Spiderman or Ratchet and clank you will have to look for details and while you play even if you notice a little it will still be nothing that leaves a clear impression. It will be more like "yeah it felt like it was more impressive looking but i can't quite put my finger on it" type of thing so barely any big loss if you play it on normal PS5.
I mean consoles have a fixed hardware and it will perform less and less while the software gets more demanding, on PC gpus for example each gen GPU the xx90 series of that gen is the gpu for 4k60 max settings and by the time the next xx90 gpu comes out games will be to demanding for the previous one to do 4k60 on those new games
I honestly don’t think it’ll be worth the upgrade until Ghost of Yotei, Mafia and GTA6 come out. Not enough games out right now that will take advantage of the PS5 pro’s full power
@@pvrplefrank1155No shit. I went to college and got my degree to help me in my career. You think I just did nothing and am part of a rich family? GTFO!
Some games see a significant difference, others less so. What matters is the computing capacity of the Pro, as time goes by, you'll see games that are built and optimized for the Pro completely thrashing the visuals of the standard.
@@WelcomeWithinMyDream think about it, the pro is 700 with 2 tb rights, and you don't have to choose between the two modes. The older models have 1 tb and from what I'm seeing not only that it's actually 800 gb you get plus you gotta choose which mode to play with. If you're a guy who buys, 10 to maybe 20 games you're going to run nto a storage problem, or you're going to have to keep deleting memory to make room for new software. You buy a slim for 500 plus you gotta buy a new SD card for 200 for 2 tb your at seven hundred anyways........at this point you might as well buy the pro. Now if you already own a previous ps5 I suggest you just hunker down. But I'll say just buy the pro with 2 tb for 700 and just go all digital. Then to buy a slim for 500, and end up having to upgrade to SD for 200 which puts you at 700 hundred. First time buyers are better off getting the pro.
@@Codyslx yeah, but pc is for hard core gamers. Most gamers will choose a console, but overall I get what your saying I just don't like the hassle of it all
Seen a lot of people giving their take/coverage on this console for a while now. You’re really good at what you do as I felt I learnt more about it from this short video than everything I’ve come across
I did not purchase the PS5 cause I know I will only be playing GTA VI on the Pro, but watching what Sony dumped on us, I'm gonna pass on this PayStation.
My guy I know that you want to keep getting invited to the Sony PlayStation events but damn you can be real, you can sing its prices and ignore that there's no games and the fact that the pro is still going to be playing games at 30fps. Just make sure to always send it on a good note so you get invited to back again. Shill
Meanwhile Xbox fanboys out here licking Phil Spencer’s butthole so they can get invited to a showcase of a dead console with no quality games. So dead that any games they do have they have to port it to the ps5 so it can sell. 😂
Probably much more than that, especially if you want something upgradable for the future, which anyone with common sense would. You're not going to get a Zen 2 CPU to match the Pro specs. You'd want something on the AM5 platform (or whatever equivalent for Intel chip) for a new PC at this point, which drives the price up if you are building a real rig rather than a hypothetical build.
@AKSBSU All PCs are upgradable for the future, tho. All the components are modular. You don't need to buy AM5. If you want to upgrade to a new architecture down the line, then swap the motherboard as well as the cpu chip when the time comes.
@@Codyslx And RAM and potentially other components. You’re typically swapping multiple components when you upgrade the motherboard. It’s not a minor upgrade. It’s probably going to be at least a partial rebuild. It’s not like just swapping a CPU or GPU and nothing else.
@AKSBSU In most cases, that's all you'll need to do. Even now, zen 2 will hold up for at least another decade. Most people keep there builds close to a decade before considering a total rebuild.
@@Codyslx I have a 5800x3D instead of a 7800x3D because that was a $300 Micro Center sale upgrade with no other changes versus rebuilding and replacing several of the major components of my PC and substantially higher cost, multiple times more.
Well…. about that… PS5 Pro is more like RX6800, that’s like 370$ GPU at the moment. IGN x Digialt Foundry talk about that on the last podcast. Not to mention Sony makes billions of profits of the PSN platform. They don’t need to make chunks of profit of hardware too🙃 If they do, they will cross into PC territory and when people will try PC. They aren’t coming back.
@@KryssN1they also talked about it being like a downclocked 4070 which starts at like $540. So $600 for a 4070 plus a dualsense. $100 gets you “the entire rest of the machine” in terms of a PS5 pro.
The Pro has more advanced ray tracing technology than the AMD flagship 7900 XTX Nitro I paid $1200 for. LOL. That stings a bit. I managed to get the 30th Anniversary bundle while I was between flights on a trip to see my girlfriend. Got in and grabbed the preorder with 3 minutes left before I had to board my next 4-hour flight. Cut it close.
@@KryssN1 That is utter nonsense. That is just raw rasterization power ignoring a substantial boost in ray tracing power and ignoring the AI upscaling tech that seems to be very good. Those features would drive up the price of a GPU quite a bit more than the cost of a RX6800. And DF compared it to a RTX 4070, which is definitely not a $370 card. Why would you cite a source like that but didn't even watch it?
I love your videos because you obviously like tech. You’re not looking to be mad about everything. It’s expensive, but it very much has a place. I’m excited about it.
Yea, 330 bucks store credit if you're a pro member.. im def buying the pro, im not worried about the price tag. I got a good job, 700 ain't a big deal!
The price sucks, but the one thing that has me thinking about it is the frame drop situation on games like Wukong, FFXVI, and Space Marine 2. They happen often and are extremely noticeable. I can only assume the Pro would improve this situation quite a bit. Maybe it's wishful thinking?
PS5 still only has a handful of games that are true next gen. We got next no games announced yesterday that are next gen exclusive or remotely take advantage of the pro. $700 for upscaling is better spent elsewhere.
Ghost of Yotei is said to be specifically made for the ps5 with ps5 pro in mind. Idk how much better it'll look on ps5 pro because sucker punch made the game look so good on ps4. So im intrigued to see how much better they can make this next game look.
I think consoles like the PS5 and and Xbox Series X are stuck on a weird place in terms of power were ether it feels like they are enhancing old non next-gen games or that they are collapsing under the weight of the new graphical engines. Is like demanding games were at level 4 and 5 the last few years and PS4 was level 4 and struggling with 5 but Ps5 is level 6 so it can clear those demanding level 5 easy but feel like it has more to show due to being level 6 and still isn't used for true next gen but the next engines of demanding games are at level 7 and 8 so when they get going fully suddenly the PS5 will feel not good enough so it never gets to be satisfying enough.
Im trying to tell yall, get it while you can, they made specifically for GTA6 because thats the game that will take the pro to its limits, as for other games, youll soon start seeing a huge gap difference in games between ps5 and ps5 pro
Dont spend 700 on console with not even that big of a difference to the normal ps5, just buy the normal ps5 for 450 and spend another 300 for a cheap gaming pc and ur all set
I have a standard disc drive PS5 that I stand vertically on my desk. So to get a comparable experience, I'd have to pay for an external disc drive AND a vertical stand pushing the price to over 800USD. At that point, an admittedly solid graphical leap isn't nearly worth a $300 price jump.
@@MadSkillz76 I live in the Netherlands and in Europe its going to be 800 euro's which is about 890 USD. I have no idea why they're going to sell its at that much higher price. Its insane.
@@Bvsh19xxyou meant around 9 hundred. If you include taxes on the ps5 pro it’s like 780 or 790 with taxes. Good luck tryna get the disc drive for retail price
I’m on a PS4 Slim, Yeah I think I’ll buy the PS5 Pro rather than a normal PS5. Do you think I should wait a little after the release because the PS5 might have problems like you know when something new is released you might get problems and later on in the generation it’ll be sold with those fixed?
I disagree. I have a 4080 pc pre built but generally game on my ps more and def will get a pro. I just prefer gaming on console I work all day on computers and I find more issues with pc games when it's just pick up and play on console. Shader comp studder in some games for instance, or the memory leak affecting the recent god of war ragnarok pc port, issues ive never had on console. Pc gaming has its merits but gaming on the big screen in the family room id always pick a console
Here’s the translation: "But those are games that you could already play on PS4, and I think all of them are made by PlayStation. I don't see the point in buying a PS5 Pro without a disc drive or vertical stand, especially since there are currently no games made specifically for the console."
the regular ps5 say's it does 4k 120 on certain games right so the ps5 pro is going to be the same thing just with ray tracing added am i right or wrong?
PS5 with 600gb is released around 500 USD, but this one with 2TB and way more processing power for 700 makes sense to me. I know they excluded disc drive, but to me personally, the digital editions costs cheap during sale. I am a kind of guy who wants to share console to anyone around me who wants to play, so I keep the games with me.
These are older games with stopgap patches, not all devs will make effective use of the Pro right off the bat. You really should watch Digital Foundry's coverage on GT7, FF7 Rebirth and F1 24 on the Pro vs PS5.
700 bucks is what the ps5 already costs here in Australia so I don’t know what you’re complaining about the price for when you already have the pro at that price. Here the pro costs 1200 bucks 😵💫
No one has the Pro in their hands yet so we have to wait when testers start getting them in their own hands and spaces and can test them out to check such details. There is no way he could understand such a thing in a noisy event full of people and multiple consoles working etc.
There is huuuge difference in that game. is just that you people don't get that there is no way you are gonna see what he is seeing threw a compressed UA-cam video threw a camera recording a screen. Most of the visual info is lost. Seeing this things in person and in UA-cam videos is not even remodly the same. Digital foundry zooms in etc because they want to show you the detail that can't be seen threw UA-cam. You think. "Yeah ok you guys are zooming in etc i can see it but i am not gonna be pixel hunting while i play" but that is not it. They zoom in to show you what you could see if you weren't watching threw UA-cam and whatever screen you have but actually seeing it threw a big 4K TV in-frond of you because when you actually have the Tv and you actually connect it you can see what they have to zoom in to show you right there in-frond of you.
Came across your channel today and I'm liking your content. I couldn't live with myself without giving you the credit you deserve, so I subscribed. Thanks for the great content
Sony: Lets drop a PS5 Pro console and price people out the ass at $700. While doing this we're not going to include a stand, (that'll cost you an additional $30) and its not going to have a disc version, (if you want an attachable disc accessory you have to pay up $80). It's not worth the $700 price tag. If I want to play Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart and Grand Turismo 7 I'll play them on my HP OMEN 45L gaming PC that shits on the PS5 Pro! A massive fail from Sony.
The Pro happily destroys any PC for $800. Meanwhile you'll play on your overpriced prebuilt PC that offers broken ports, hackers in multiplayer and several other headaches
@@ChamaUFC300 what are you talking about? Every time I switch from 60 FPS to 144 FPS there’s a significance difference you can see unless you’re just slow in the head and mental. I’m not sure.
@@ChamaUFC300lmaoooo tell me you have never seen more than 60fps without telling me right here. I play games at 240Hz and you can see a BIG difference over 60. Your either taking the piss and if your serious get help.
The PS5 $499 no games play your ps4 games slightly better 4 yrs later PS5 Pro play those same ps4 games a little more better pay $700 or $810 if you have a physical collection oh and by the way still no new games 🤣
All the people hating on PS5 PRO watch it sell out tomorrow lol PlayStation making consoles better as a whole and yall don’t even realize it. People complaining about upscaling to 4K60 are just repeating what they seen somebody else say. Not knowing even high end PC use upscaling. Graphics and performance at the same time is an amazing mid gen upgrade. PSSR has Ai learning so the PS5 PRO is evolving the PS6 as we speak. The future is bright 💯
Honesty yes $700 is expensive, but the fact there’s no disk drive is a slap in the face. I still have a lot of ps4 games and it’s ridiculous that after all these years, the ps5 is still the same price.
I stopped gaming during the 360 / ps3 era due to life. Looking to get back into gaming but man is it really that bad? If you was in my shoes would you buy the ps5 pro?
As a current ps4 pro user.... I feel like this high quality with frame rate should've been there with the first ps5 launch already.... I'm kinda surprised after hearing "now you don't have to choose between quality and and performance" that shit should've already been in the original ps5 already....
many people are complaining for whatever reasons against the pro and i have to disagree. the ps5 is a good system and the ps5 pro is for those who want a bit more. you are not forced to buy it. just dont if you dont want and thats it. no need to do the cry baby and find whatever reason to say its a bad console and talk against it. theres also people who are happy and want to buy the pro. there are improvements over the standard ps5 that some will appreciate to have like a 45% boost to GPU, a 2TB SSD, Wifi 7 , AI-powered upscaling tech called PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution, , enhanced ray-tracing , a 10 percent cpu boost mode and also a game boost feature.
Too expensive, do I want it, yes, am I going to buy it, no..
I'm getting it.
I don’t get why people complain about it being too expensive first of all PlayStation loses money on their console sales within the first year or 2 so they can get to the market early so they have to make that money back and if you want something high end you’re gonna be paying top dollar in the end it’s worth it for a non competitive gamer
@@lloydpicklesyou can build a goddamn pc for the same price. A hell of a lot better use of that 700$
I’m getting it lol yolo live and be happy
@@288gto7I already have a good PC but I have to get this for GTA 6
This just feels like a big extended PS5 Pro Advertisement. lol
Exactly what it is
You got it😂
yesss facts
Yes PlayStation would fly him out so he can shit on their new console 🤣
Facts when your playing the games are you going to notice the graphics or will you be focused on the gameplay. No one cares about the grass being a bit lighter that doesn't justify me spending nearly £1,000 on this console. I need to see new games running on the pro or I might as well stick with the base model lol. It also needs to run 60fps standard because what is the point of me buying this to play 30fps.
Its official. Sony went full Apple
Sound like a causal gamer lol
@@ChamaUFC300You sound like $700 isn’t alot of money for for you. For such a minor upgrade from the standard version, it’s not worth that much money.
How the fuck did they go "full Apple"? Apple updates their devices every year, and generally they get upgrades across the board, including performance, yet maintain last year's pricing. This would be if Apple took 4 years to release a new phone and doubled the price.
@@MrEi8ghtlol double the performance and fidelity isn't a minor upgrade, stop smoking
@@MrEi8ght how can you say it’s not worth the money when you haven’t seen it in person running these games or the upcoming games.
I’m not paying 7 hundred dollars just to see a car reflection or rain clear in a game😂😂😂😂😂
My og ps5 runs great and the quality great on my 4K tv,
lol no it does not and I game on 4K displays. If it did run great Sony wouldn’t of made the ps5 pro
@@JudahiamKng what does my opinion have to do with your opinion? Preorder your ps5 pro so you can see great quality even greater then.
@@fe6ruary You have some unresolved issues if you get offended by someone else's opinion like that. Seek therapy.
@@fe6ruary I’m not preordering the pro!! Waste of money!! Even digital foundary originally said just get a pc then they backed out on that when they realized I’d everyone had pcs…. It would up the price!!
@fe6ruary I will, trust me! Gonna look great on my 8k tv, too. So excited!
Always been an Xbox guy. Got a ps4 about 4 years ago and finally decided to get a ps5. Preordered last night, can’t wait to get started
Are you liking PlayStation better ? Always been with Xbox as well since the ps2
I was sold on the PS5 Pro before this video but thank you making my decision even better.
It’s crazy that the ps4 Pro supported 1440 60. We expected the PS5 to run 4K 60 with no problem yet we still playing upscaled 4K games. The box listed 8k gaming which was laughable. Basically the potential either was never reached or Sony lied.
Stop crying
@@dannyCoolSwag He’s right though
It did play 8k ……😂 mine craft what a joke
What game was 1440p 60fps on PS4 Pro? I know PS4 Pro was 1440p 30fps. PS5 Pro is doing PSSR( like DLSS) to get to 8k 60fps. We all got 4k TV so it would Super Sample the image.
@@vincentandrews6230 He's not. If they keep the graphics level at the ps4 level, they would be putting out 4K60 Games. The point is the graphics have also increased in line with the increased GPU.
Let's even ignore the part were the PS4 Pro had only a few games that really hit high resolution. A lot of games just had checkerboard rendering.
I feel like It’s not actually that big of a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro … it feels like sony wants people to think its a very big difference so they can sell a lot more units of the pro model ….that’s why these UA-camrs are exaggerating about the difference!
You can feel however you want but the people that actually saw this in person immediately saw a difference. I can even see a difference without my glasses on. You’re just coping.
obviously if there’s no difference some gone sue 😂 because ain’t no way someone is paying for the same thing 😂
Well once digital foundry continues to drop videos constantly on how powerful the ps5 pro is, especially with newer games like GTA6 and then take back all the negative things they said about the pro prior to its release than that’s when people will realize how big of a difference there is. But once again….people are not being forced to upgrade, if you afford than good, if you can’t than just stick with the ps5.
There is a big difference in terms of hardware. The issue is that software this generation isn't demanding enough to take advantage of it.
So yes, the PS5 pro isn't worth it for many people. But it's not because the hardware is bad for its price. There's just not enough software to take advantage of it.
@@Seven-pu5wj yup !
a shame that there's no built-in disc drive
Consoles are turning into what PC gamers started transitioning to 21 years ago with Steam. Digital only. There won’t be anymore reselling games 😢
Why don't you have alot of devices that have disc drive . Keeping alot of cds 💿 getts messy especially when you don't use them and you just horde
@@FelipeAPina I like collecting physical games and I want a physical object to signify my ownership over a game
@@hoshikuzuvenus I get that but think of all the cds that end up in the trash that stuff don't get recycled most of the time . Most likely end up In the ocean or in a foreign 3rd world country. It has its pros and cons
@@FelipeAPinait sucks how wasteful we are i would personally take those especially in this economy games are expensive as hell
i collect because i like looking at my shelf grow over time and so i have something to share with people and to pass down to the next generation who hopefully will have the same respect i do
Everyone hating on the pro when it's an option to buy. If you're good with your og then be happy if you want the pro then get it. 4k60 as a staple is enough for me let alone the other features
Cope harder
People forget that in order to achieve these graphics with the fps boost… you’ll need a tv or monitor that supports it. Majority of console players simply won’t notice. Most don’t even have tvs that have HDR. Me personally, as someone who has a tv that is too good for a ps5, I literally cannot tell the difference between fidelity and performance or performance RT besides the slight drop in fps. I mainly play the spider man games and God of war games and I will tell you as god as my witness… you cannot tell the difference between fidelity and performance. so the argument of combining both just isn’t enough to justify imo. I also have a regular ps5 which it only looks better but also has dark plates which are so much better and better looking
I bought the Ps4 pro and the Xbox one x and of course I'm getting the ps5 Pro. People don't understand that you're not going to see the difference unless you're in front of the tv, so watching compressed videos on youtube and pictures from Digital Foundry will not give you the whole picture the only time they will see it is if your at one of their friends house or in a store like best buy were you put a regular ps5 right next to the pro doing comparison I will say sony doesn't understand how to advertise this product because that is the reason so many people are not even looking at the other side of the fence the grass is greener but people are like are you sure.
Rich kid from dads money😂
Realistically speaking, these minor visual upgrades will be completely lost on the majority of customers while they’re actually _playing_ a game. Pretty much all the graphical comparisons Sony demonstrated had the player character standing completely still with the camera locked to a specific direction. I can’t speak for everyone, but I personally keep my hands on the controller while playing games.
Minor 😂
You can apply that mindset on almost anything and conclude you don't need any upgrade in life.
@@EdibleGymSock straight up!! Not to mention that at that price just wait and get the new switch and Xbox!!
I'ts not minor.
Overall you'll see games with more ray tracing, and running at 60dfps with higher resolution while
PS5 is at 30 or 60 with low graphics.
It depends on the game and the TV you have and even the distance you sit on.
For example if you have a decent size 4K Tv and you put Final Fantasy Rebirth at 60fps on the normal PS5 and PS5 Pro then the difference will be obvious as day because the whole screen looks like it has an extra layer of Vaseline compared to the image the PS5 Pro gives.
Is like the whole game came back from a P.Diddy party while the PS5 Pro is sharp and clean. So no matter how you move and play you will see it.
While if you put Astrobot or Spiderman or Ratchet and clank you will have to look for details and while you play even if you notice a little it will still be nothing that leaves a clear impression. It will be more like "yeah it felt like it was more impressive looking but i can't quite put my finger on it" type of thing so barely any big loss if you play it on normal PS5.
Crazy everything the pro is is what they said the ps5 was
This they keep milking us.
They better make the gta run 4 60 fs at least on ps5
I should have to buy pro for dat nonsense.
Facts man
That's why you wait for the better model
Still isn’t. Every game won’t be able to do 4k/60 and the cpu of the Pro still weaker than the Xbox series x.
I mean consoles have a fixed hardware and it will perform less and less while the software gets more demanding, on PC gpus for example each gen GPU the xx90 series of that gen is the gpu for 4k60 max settings and by the time the next xx90 gpu comes out games will be to demanding for the previous one to do 4k60 on those new games
Tired of choosing between performance and quality mode so I preordered it. Can’t wait !!!
I honestly don’t think it’ll be worth the upgrade until Ghost of Yotei, Mafia and GTA6 come out. Not enough games out right now that will take advantage of the PS5 pro’s full power
There's a new Mafia game coming out ?
If you don't own a ps5 the pro is the better buy
Its the same yall will see just keep giving them yall money have fun keeping my ps5
This is what the original ps5 should have been. I was shocked when I found out that I had to choose between modes
I’m still trying to get regular ps5 but kids and bills I guess later for me
The misery of that paycheck never being enough for our wishes no matter how hard we work.
Sounds like you need to level up in your career, not your gaming
@@jay____leasier said than done shit takes time little kid one day youll face reality
@@pvrplefrank1155No shit. I went to college and got my degree to help me in my career. You think I just did nothing and am part of a rich family? GTFO!
Het the pro man it's a better buy
Some games see a significant difference, others less so. What matters is the computing capacity of the Pro, as time goes by, you'll see games that are built and optimized for the Pro completely thrashing the visuals of the standard.
Stop it is not worth the price 😂 everyone save your money and wait for the PS6
It’s more than worth it. I’m buying it.
If you don’t have a PS5 already, definitely worth it. Otherwise, probably better to save that money
Save your money until they release a console that can run completely off disk, have new good games, and doesn't require 100 GB updates every 2 weeks.
Too bad, I’m upgrading once gta 6 drops.
@@johnsilver6316 This won’t be able to run GTA6 at 4K 60 😂
No console,no pc, haven’t been gaming for a few years, this looked like a good opportunity to get back into gaming with the improvements on the system
Coming from the ps4 pro this will now be a good upgrade for me.
That’s a proper upgrade
I would've added the meme with the dude trying to find the difference between 5 vs 5 pro.
The pro is a better deal if you don't own a ps5....I'm ready to debate
@@okthen5566 is it really? Considering the price of the new console and the price cut the PS5 will get. I doubt people will rush to buy the new one...
@@WelcomeWithinMyDream think about it, the pro is 700 with 2 tb rights, and you don't have to choose between the two modes. The older models have 1 tb and from what I'm seeing not only that it's actually 800 gb you get plus you gotta choose which mode to play with. If you're a guy who buys, 10 to maybe 20 games you're going to run nto a storage problem, or you're going to have to keep deleting memory to make room for new software. You buy a slim for 500 plus you gotta buy a new SD card for 200 for 2 tb your at seven hundred anyways........at this point you might as well buy the pro. Now if you already own a previous ps5 I suggest you just hunker down. But I'll say just buy the pro with 2 tb for 700 and just go all digital. Then to buy a slim for 500, and end up having to upgrade to SD for 200 which puts you at 700 hundred. First time buyers are better off getting the pro.
At 700 you could just buy a pc.
@@Codyslx yeah, but pc is for hard core gamers. Most gamers will choose a console, but overall I get what your saying I just don't like the hassle of it all
I am a PC gamer but I am going to get the ps5 pro for the only reason to play GTA 6
same thinking :DD
Better hope that it’ll run 60 or 120 frames
@@lamarjohnson366the extra power is nice,
@@lamarjohnson366why wouldnt it run at 60 . It will most likely look a little bit better than RDR2 thats it.
00:49 "What blew my mind the most?"... THE PRICEEEEEE
Go price a rtx 4070 and say that again. Since the 4070 is the closest comparable gpu. The rip off 4070s are over 700 just for the gpu alone.
@alpha6games751 the r6x 4060 outclasses the pc by a huge margin. This is not comparable. And PCs are multipurpose.
The PS5 Pro is what the PS5 should have been. As for the price, Heck no.
In Canada, a PS5 pro would cost over a $1,000 dollars (not including tax) and if you would want to add a disk drive that’s an extra cost as well… 😭☠️
Too expensive not worth it
can you not cross the border and buy 1 from America for $700 ?
It's $960 then $1,075 after tax 💀
Seen a lot of people giving their take/coverage on this console for a while now.
You’re really good at what you do as I felt I learnt more about it from this short video than everything I’ve come across
I cannot wait!!!! This with wilds is gonna be one memorable February!
Do I have a PS5? Yes. Do I have a pro preordered? Yes. Can't wait!
It’s funny how the original is still the best looking one which is weird since previous generations slims versions look better
I did not purchase the PS5 cause I know I will only be playing GTA VI on the Pro, but watching what Sony dumped on us, I'm gonna pass on this PayStation.
DAYUM the difference is so BIIIIIIIG, DAYUM. joker of the year
Yes, going from 30 to 60 is a big deal.
Guess who's gonna be the joker when those comparisons start on Digital Foundry start? Spoiler: Not the Pro
My guy I know that you want to keep getting invited to the Sony PlayStation events but damn you can be real, you can sing its prices and ignore that there's no games and the fact that the pro is still going to be playing games at 30fps. Just make sure to always send it on a good note so you get invited to back again. Shill
Meanwhile Xbox fanboys out here licking Phil Spencer’s butthole so they can get invited to a showcase of a dead console with no quality games. So dead that any games they do have they have to port it to the ps5 so it can sell. 😂
Stay salty lol
Fanboy tears running down your face.
As a recent converted pc player, $700 bucks is crazy. For a few hundred more you can play all games on a single platform.
Probably much more than that, especially if you want something upgradable for the future, which anyone with common sense would. You're not going to get a Zen 2 CPU to match the Pro specs. You'd want something on the AM5 platform (or whatever equivalent for Intel chip) for a new PC at this point, which drives the price up if you are building a real rig rather than a hypothetical build.
@AKSBSU All PCs are upgradable for the future, tho. All the components are modular. You don't need to buy AM5. If you want to upgrade to a new architecture down the line, then swap the motherboard as well as the cpu chip when the time comes.
@@Codyslx And RAM and potentially other components. You’re typically swapping multiple components when you upgrade the motherboard. It’s not a minor upgrade. It’s probably going to be at least a partial rebuild. It’s not like just swapping a CPU or GPU and nothing else.
@AKSBSU In most cases, that's all you'll need to do. Even now, zen 2 will hold up for at least another decade.
Most people keep there builds close to a decade before considering a total rebuild.
@@Codyslx I have a 5800x3D instead of a 7800x3D because that was a $300 Micro Center sale upgrade with no other changes versus rebuilding and replacing several of the major components of my PC and substantially higher cost, multiple times more.
Console people saying it's too expensive haven't had to pay $1,000 just for a PC graphics card.
Well…. about that… PS5 Pro is more like RX6800, that’s like 370$ GPU at the moment.
IGN x Digialt Foundry talk about that on the last podcast.
Not to mention Sony makes billions of profits of the PSN platform. They don’t need to make chunks of profit of hardware too🙃
If they do, they will cross into PC territory and when people will try PC. They aren’t coming back.
But you get what you pay for with that.
@@KryssN1they also talked about it being like a downclocked 4070 which starts at like $540. So $600 for a 4070 plus a dualsense. $100 gets you “the entire rest of the machine” in terms of a PS5 pro.
The Pro has more advanced ray tracing technology than the AMD flagship 7900 XTX Nitro I paid $1200 for. LOL. That stings a bit. I managed to get the 30th Anniversary bundle while I was between flights on a trip to see my girlfriend. Got in and grabbed the preorder with 3 minutes left before I had to board my next 4-hour flight. Cut it close.
@@KryssN1 That is utter nonsense. That is just raw rasterization power ignoring a substantial boost in ray tracing power and ignoring the AI upscaling tech that seems to be very good. Those features would drive up the price of a GPU quite a bit more than the cost of a RX6800. And DF compared it to a RTX 4070, which is definitely not a $370 card. Why would you cite a source like that but didn't even watch it?
I love your videos because you obviously like tech. You’re not looking to be mad about everything. It’s expensive, but it very much has a place. I’m excited about it.
I would just trade in my regular ps5 to go with the price of the pro
Trade in value unfortunately won’t be much 😢
@@ARIN4UK yeah it’ll probably be like $330ish
Maybe even less depending on the condition and since it is being “out spec” by the PS5 Pro.
Yea, 330 bucks store credit if you're a pro member.. im def buying the pro, im not worried about the price tag. I got a good job, 700 ain't a big deal!
@@asoto718 You butt heads forgot the the next Xbox is in 2026, I own both systems.
The price sucks, but the one thing that has me thinking about it is the frame drop situation on games like Wukong, FFXVI, and Space Marine 2. They happen often and are extremely noticeable. I can only assume the Pro would improve this situation quite a bit. Maybe it's wishful thinking?
wukong struggled even in a high end pc. its not the system itself.
PS5 still only has a handful of games that are true next gen. We got next no games announced yesterday that are next gen exclusive or remotely take advantage of the pro. $700 for upscaling is better spent elsewhere.
Ghost of Yotei is said to be specifically made for the ps5 with ps5 pro in mind. Idk how much better it'll look on ps5 pro because sucker punch made the game look so good on ps4. So im intrigued to see how much better they can make this next game look.
GTA 6
You mean the 5 games that currant exist only for ps5 🤡 gtfo 😂
How tf does the PS5 defined as a new next gen when it was close to the same graphics as the PS4?
I think consoles like the PS5 and and Xbox Series X are stuck on a weird place in terms of power were ether it feels like they are enhancing old non next-gen games or that they are collapsing under the weight of the new graphical engines.
Is like demanding games were at level 4 and 5 the last few years and PS4 was level 4 and struggling with 5 but Ps5 is level 6 so it can clear those demanding level 5 easy but feel like it has more to show due to being level 6 and still isn't used for true next gen but the next engines of demanding games are at level 7 and 8 so when they get going fully suddenly the PS5 will feel not good enough so it never gets to be satisfying enough.
Just pre ordered mine from Best Buy. Can't wait to play sims on it
700 is a great price for that performance when you look at PC. I wonder what Xbox will do next.
Im trying to tell yall, get it while you can, they made specifically for GTA6 because thats the game that will take the pro to its limits, as for other games, youll soon start seeing a huge gap difference in games between ps5 and ps5 pro
Dont spend 700 on console with not even that big of a difference to the normal ps5, just buy the normal ps5 for 450 and spend another 300 for a cheap gaming pc and ur all set
Congratulations, you deserved this.
yap yap yap..... wish everyone could install the show dislikes extension just for this video lol
Dude love ur videos! Also where did you get that T-Shirt? Its poppin!
I def want that 30th Anniversary joint. IF I don’t get it, I’m not upgrading. I’ll wait till the PS6.
Would they be pricing it like or more than ps5 pro as specs would be better
You're speaking my language! I feel the same way when playing story games like Final Fantasy too.
I have a standard disc drive PS5 that I stand vertically on my desk. So to get a comparable experience, I'd have to pay for an external disc drive AND a vertical stand pushing the price to over 800USD. At that point, an admittedly solid graphical leap isn't nearly worth a $300 price jump.
And yet people were paying over $1500 just for a video card, and the computer didn't even come with it LOL.
@@MadSkillz76 I live in the Netherlands and in Europe its going to be 800 euro's which is about 890 USD. I have no idea why they're going to sell its at that much higher price. Its insane.
So is it worth the price and the hassle of getting an external disc drive ?
Sold my base PS5 already.
FF7 Rebirth getting a upgrade alone is worth it to me. xD!
Performance mode is pure shit at the moment.
FF7R Performance mode without the Pro is like composite or RF video
@@danielgomez7236 Exactly! xD!! VHS player quality.
I remember when you did your first review for the PS4 pro it’s crazy how time flies
If only it had a disc drive and stand included then i wouldn't mind the price tag
Exactly so it will be around $800 after buying the disc drive
@@Bvsh19xxyou meant around 9 hundred. If you include taxes on the ps5 pro it’s like 780 or 790 with taxes. Good luck tryna get the disc drive for retail price
@@dillonbanks609 you’re absolutely right
I’m on a PS4 Slim, Yeah I think I’ll buy the PS5 Pro rather than a normal PS5. Do you think I should wait a little after the release because the PS5 might have problems like you know when something new is released you might get problems and later on in the generation it’ll be sold with those fixed?
Im not buying a 700$ console just to have 60fps
PS5 needs more survival bace building games such as son's of the forest
I still have a ps4 black ops 3 edition so the jump to a ps5 pro is gonna be crazy
Keep in mind without a good tv you won't see the full potential of the pro or even the normal ps5, you want 4k 120hz vrr tv at least
Good luck but you have to a good TV like 4k or 8k
Same, I'm still on the ps4 pro and just pre-order the 5 pro. Hoping to see a big difference.
I have the 2015 PS4 and I am thinking on upgrading. Should I invest in a PC? or get a PS5? Thoughts please and thanks.
What the original ps5 should’ve been honestly… if you’re considering the pro just consider a pc at that point
I doubt a $700 pc will have the same high quality graphics and game performance as the pro.
@@minthouse6338 Ik that but a lil extra money would be better for something more versatile than just a console but ig that’s just me
I disagree. I have a 4080 pc pre built but generally game on my ps more and def will get a pro. I just prefer gaming on console I work all day on computers and I find more issues with pc games when it's just pick up and play on console. Shader comp studder in some games for instance, or the memory leak affecting the recent god of war ragnarok pc port, issues ive never had on console. Pc gaming has its merits but gaming on the big screen in the family room id always pick a console
@@steveybiggunzgaming8118 a hundred thousand times everything you just said
People with this kind off comments are fucking idiots 😂
lmao the pixel peeping is crazy 1:02 😂
Graphics and Perfomance is something but PRICE is ALSO something
Here’s the translation:
"But those are games that you could already play on PS4, and I think all of them are made by PlayStation. I don't see the point in buying a PS5 Pro without a disc drive or vertical stand, especially since there are currently no games made specifically for the console."
the regular ps5 say's it does 4k 120 on certain games right so the ps5 pro is going to be the same thing just with ray tracing added am i right or wrong?
Traded my ps5 to GameStop last week for $400. Buying ps5 pro for $300. Absolutely. No brainer.
are you serious ? thats a good deal, with the disc or without ?
@@Oxtreil with disc drive.
PS5 with 600gb is released around 500 USD, but this one with 2TB and way more processing power for 700 makes sense to me. I know they excluded disc drive, but to me personally, the digital editions costs cheap during sale. I am a kind of guy who wants to share console to anyone around me who wants to play, so I keep the games with me.
the fact that you really need to nit pick to see the differences, says it all
These are older games with stopgap patches, not all devs will make effective use of the Pro right off the bat.
You really should watch Digital Foundry's coverage on GT7, FF7 Rebirth and F1 24 on the Pro vs PS5.
@@RandomGamingMoments925 yeah, let's not buy hardware on the promise of potential use in future games
700 bucks is what the ps5 already costs here in Australia so I don’t know what you’re complaining about the price for when you already have the pro at that price. Here the pro costs 1200 bucks 😵💫
How loud was the fan noise for the Ps5 Pro ? was it louder than the Ps5 Slim ? I’m in a small Room close to my Slim and is dead silent
No one has the Pro in their hands yet so we have to wait when testers start getting them in their own hands and spaces and can test them out to check such details.
There is no way he could understand such a thing in a noisy event full of people and multiple consoles working etc.
I'm definitely buying it.
Real
Me too for GTA 6
@@danzen6246 fax
Question: Will the PS5 Cover Plate fit on the PS5 Pro Since you have hands on? I am coming from the PS4 Pro to the PS5 Pro.
Specs ps5 pro sony,where?
1:05 there is no difference my bro 😂😂😂
There is huuuge difference in that game. is just that you people don't get that there is no way you are gonna see what he is seeing threw a compressed UA-cam video threw a camera recording a screen. Most of the visual info is lost.
Seeing this things in person and in UA-cam videos is not even remodly the same. Digital foundry zooms in etc because they want to show you the detail that can't be seen threw UA-cam. You think. "Yeah ok you guys are zooming in etc i can see it but i am not gonna be pixel hunting while i play" but that is not it.
They zoom in to show you what you could see if you weren't watching threw UA-cam and whatever screen you have but actually seeing it threw a big 4K TV in-frond of you because when you actually have the Tv and you actually connect it you can see what they have to zoom in to show you right there in-frond of you.
Came across your channel today and I'm liking your content. I couldn't live with myself without giving you the credit you deserve, so I subscribed. Thanks for the great content
I don’t have a ps5 yet so I’ll go for the pro of course
I already have mine pre-ordered. I have BEEN waiting for this
Waaaay waaaaay too expensive. Do i want it? Yes. Will I buy? Yes
Sheep
@@socal1003 Okay?
Are there any other benefits outside of gaming? Are there any media related upgrades you get with the additional power?
Sony: Lets drop a PS5 Pro console and price people out the ass at $700. While doing this we're not going to include a stand, (that'll cost you an additional $30) and its not going to have a disc version, (if you want an attachable disc accessory you have to pay up $80). It's not worth the $700 price tag. If I want to play Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart and Grand Turismo 7 I'll play them on my HP OMEN 45L gaming PC that shits on the PS5 Pro! A massive fail from Sony.
The Pro happily destroys any PC for $800.
Meanwhile you'll play on your overpriced prebuilt PC that offers broken ports, hackers in multiplayer and several other headaches
@@RandomGamingMoments925 This is cap 🧢
The fact that everyone has mixed feelings about the PS5 Pro is a good thing, as it means there will be no lineups for me. 😊
They made the ps5 pro as powerful as xbox series x ... Good job
Xbox is dead
The regular PS5 already whoops the Series X in many games. Stop deepthroating Xbox and open your eyes.
I've been watching you since the beats by Dre reviews. keep it up man!
@00:21 as his nose touches the screen and he nods his head as if to say “ I don’t see a difference” 😂
UAC always keeps it 💯! ☝🏻
They should have up the fps to 180 atleast
Human eye can’t scientifically see the difference of anything after 60 fps so whats the point
@@ChamaUFC300 what are you talking about? Every time I switch from 60 FPS to 144 FPS there’s a significance difference you can see unless you’re just slow in the head and mental. I’m not sure.
@ebig733 fax bro 🧠 dead
@@ChamaUFC300lmaoooo tell me you have never seen more than 60fps without telling me right here.
I play games at 240Hz and you can see a BIG difference over 60.
Your either taking the piss and if your serious get help.
@@ebig733Don't be weird bro.
I’m definitely going to preorder. It comes out on my birthday!!
The PS5 $499 no games play your ps4 games slightly better 4 yrs later PS5 Pro play those same ps4 games a little more better pay $700 or $810 if you have a physical collection oh and by the way still no new games 🤣
No built in disc drive is crazy, and on that note I will just wait for the PS6.
It could be that PS6 never going to get disc drive🤷
That is how it going to be in future anyway..
Digital Foundry confirmed that PS5 Pro Performance Mode doesn't look as good as Fidelity Mode on base PS5
Dumbo question but the ps5 pro obviously still has Fidelity mode as well right?
@@nwing07__ Most games updated for the PS5 Pro have the same Fidelity- and Performance mode. In addition, they now also have a Performance Pro mode
It's on par with it 🤷 what clips have you been watching 🤦
@@TheRealBOBlibob awesome thanks
I've seen Digital Foundry say the Pro looks better at 60 than Fidelity on base PS5 on multiple games. Stop lying.
All the people hating on PS5 PRO watch it sell out tomorrow lol PlayStation making consoles better as a whole and yall don’t even realize it. People complaining about upscaling to 4K60 are just repeating what they seen somebody else say. Not knowing even high end PC use upscaling. Graphics and performance at the same time is an amazing mid gen upgrade. PSSR has Ai learning so the PS5 PRO is evolving the PS6 as we speak. The future is bright 💯
I’m not getting it
Honesty yes $700 is expensive, but the fact there’s no disk drive is a slap in the face. I still have a lot of ps4 games and it’s ridiculous that after all these years, the ps5 is still the same price.
I stopped gaming during the 360 / ps3 era due to life. Looking to get back into gaming but man is it really that bad? If you was in my shoes would you buy the ps5 pro?
Yes buying it it's worth
Yes
Yes!!
Does the PS5 Pro already have a disc drive so that I don’t have to buy a disc drive or is that just for the PS5 Pro 30TH Anniversary Edition?
The fact that he has to get so close to the screen to even see the difference tells you everything you need to know.
As a current ps4 pro user.... I feel like this high quality with frame rate should've been there with the first ps5 launch already.... I'm kinda surprised after hearing "now you don't have to choose between quality and and performance" that shit should've already been in the original ps5 already....
many people are complaining for whatever reasons against the pro and i have to disagree. the ps5 is a good system and the ps5 pro is for those who want a bit more. you are not forced to buy it. just dont if you dont want and thats it. no need to do the cry baby and find whatever reason to say its a bad console and talk against it. theres also people who are happy and want to buy the pro. there are improvements over the standard ps5 that some will appreciate to have like a 45% boost to GPU, a 2TB SSD, Wifi 7 , AI-powered upscaling tech called PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution, , enhanced ray-tracing , a 10 percent cpu boost mode and also a game boost feature.
The price, in USA is 700$ USD and in BRAZIL is 7000R$ BRL is the same of 7000 USD
Are they selling the 30th anniversary controllers separately or only with the console?