$700 Custom PC vs PS5 Pro... FIGHT!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- With the new PS5 Pro Announcement and general specs, let's see if we can build a $700 PC that can compete with it... Thank you to Micro Center for sponsoring this video!
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Even if you have to pay $1000, a PC offers so much more in the form of what you can use it for, longevity, uprade-ability, repair-ability, no online play subscription, more games, emulators, the option for an optical drive for only $20, and so much more that it's worth the extra $300
Seriously, change your gpu and you're good to go for a couple-few more years.
The FORCED subscription service should be added as base cost and at least labeled as "minimum lifetime cost"
$1,000 is a low point to build something LIKE the ps5 (pro). The reality is games will be more optimized for console than for pc. Also the repair part is bullcrap for both, pc components AND consoles last for years even without proper maintenance/cleaning. The benefits of pc over console are the library of games and emulators. Most people only need a $200 laptop for their daily lives that's the reality. Also pc parts are MUCH more expensive outside the US
Games are also a lot cheaper for PC usually. And then there's keys for games as another option as well!
Exactly my thoughts when I built my pc back in 2016, for 2200 bucks. Get over it, it's not the same game.
Don't forget that you have to pay $80 for PSN+ every year. The PS5 pro costs way more than $700.
Plus its a console with like 5 decent games. A pc is well, a pc.
Disk drive and stand is an extra $110
+$50 for Disc Drive, and $30 for the Vertical Stand as well!
@@billytk1225 Not even $50 for the disc drive, $80. And the $30 for the stand.
Plus paying full price for all the games, no steam sales on psn
In EU the pro even cost 200 dollars more than US which means over 1000 dollars if you want the stand and disc drive. Thats when building a PC starts making more sense
US prices are without tax....
The $700 is a bit misleading for people in the EU since the €800 price includes all taxes (I'm assuming it's not a pre-VAT price). Assuming a rough average sales tax the US one is $750 or roughly €680, so that makes it roughly $130 more than the US price. Looks like the UK's price is roughly $160 more.
@@Frankon81 So you mean to tell me that all EU countries should be paying the same amount of tax on the PS5 Pro but in the US you get special treatment based on which state you live in? Why would they announce EU prices with tax and US prices without tax?
@@ByTexify culture thing. In Europe (and rest of the world) we like to know that the price we see is final price. What we see is what we pay. In states they have multiple taxes that are put on the product - from like town tax up to the state tax -that sometimes are totally random....
@Sgt_SealCluber that's a lame defense to support PS5 Pro is a better price. You can probably PAR a PS5 Pro for $600
There is also the thing that with a pc you don't have to pay a monthly subscription to use it, that you will pay for all the duration of the hardware
The comparison is just to dumb to be honest. Most people buy a console to play games on their TV.
@@coffee7180you can play games on a tv with a pc 😂
@@lowlife4028 try it, steam big picture mode doesn't even work in most games on PC.
I have a PC, Switch, and PS5.
I’m going to buy a pro and buy Sony & Nintendo consoles because I don’t want to wait to play their games.
I built my first budget gaming PC years ago using one of your videos as a guide. Only spent 580 bucks. Was the best decision i ever made, made me confident in building pcs and was able to upgrade parts over time, now i have a 6950xt / 5800x3d build that does anything i need. Thanks jay
Have those parts as well, makes for a flawless gaming experience
A success story is always heartwarming
Can I get the link to the video?
I have the exact same Graphics card and CPU! They're amazing parts!
@pbj315 I know man, I get hate all the time for having amd parts but I just don't get it. It can play anything maxed out at 1440p, that's all I need lol
"Who cares about discs?"
This guy. This guy right here. Game preservation is a thing.
Yeah but you don't get the actual game on a PS5 disc, you're just buying physical DRM. Every disc game I own just ends up downloading most of the game anyway. There's 0 preservation on PS5.
@@razingst0rmeven though you need to download the game off the license on the disc, you still need to have the disc to play I believe(unless they changed it) which means it’s still a “physical copy” and has some sort of resale value.
@@razingst0rm Demonstrably false. I live in an area without high speed internet. I am able to install large games (50+ GB) directly from the disc with no internet connection in about 10 minutes.
There are usually patches after the installion if you want them, most of which are in the 1-5 GB range, but the complete games (v1.0) are on the disc.
discs are outdated man.. many modern games on disc you cant even play offline.. so having a disc does not mean more than having it on a ssd.
@@1985EganPeter But what I said is true. The game IS on the disc, otherwise I couldn't install and play it without an internet connection. Your claim that it's not on the disc has been debunked.
Personally, I don't buy any games that require an internet connection. The live service game model is inherently anti-consumer. It is designed to maximize corporate profit, while giving players as little as possible. I also don't trust Sony to not delist and/or remove digital games whenever they feel like it, or charge whatever they want because they have a monopoly on digital games, as there are no other digital options on their console. Sony is getting sued in the UK for that monopolistic business practice right now.
Physical media gives you options, and having options never goes out of style. Fail to learn this at your own peril.
The price didn't go from $500 to $700, it went from $450 to $700 since it doesn't have a blue ray drive.
Got more storage though
1tb ssd is 100$ so technically u paying 150 more for the power
@@haocongkevinzhu1451 as cheap as $60 for a Samsung 1tb nvme. They are robbing folks
@@haocongkevinzhu1451 depends on where you go and what brand and whats on sale got a nvme saberant rocket 1tb for 50 on newegg and i see cruitical on sale for around 50-60 from time to time
2TB
You proved you cant build pc for same price that has same specs/performance
Dude even used a refurbished VGA from almost 5 years ago.
but you can still play games from the ps3, ps2 and older on the pc.
@@rick_222 doesnt matter thats not what we are talking about here
@@pedromchannel I bought a used RX 580 6 years ago still working btw in my old PC that I use for other things for 200 usd and it destroys any console in 1080p atleast when you compare the frames as besides the PS5 that apprently can do 120fps in some titles at lower res every other console is 60 or 30fps while my old ass RX 580 still runs alot of games at 120+ fps at 1080p
@@rick_222literally less than 1 percent of people who game play retro, I’m sorry but it really isn’t as deep as some of you guys make it tombe
The extra money you'd need to run the Rx6800 comes from just 5 months of PS+ Premium....
Plus Sony can purchase the chip cheaper than a user can.
Or the stand and cd drive.
@@CamBeulGaming I was leaving that out since he also left those off as a PC doesn’t have a disc drive usually these days either
6800 is not the PS5 gpu lol also you get 2 free games a month maybe 3 IDK. Inflation caused EVERYTHING to go up since the PS5 launched 4 years ago. people complain then buy a 4090 for $1750
@@robertbolzicco9995 You get 2 free games a week on epic store just for having an account, so there's a PC comparable which is better & free.
As someone who already owns a Series X and a PS5 and uses both on a 1440p monitor, I can confidently say this is most likely my final console generation and I'll be a strictly PC gamer after this current generation.
You have seen the light. Don't ever go back. Lol
@@mrdappernature8861 don't ever ever go back
go for it bro, you will be amazed lol.. but please go at least 1440p ultrawide, there is nothing better than ultawide gaming
@@antftwx I'm the opposite. After dropping 1500 CAD on just a GPU and probably a other 2k on the rest of parts I don't think I'll get another PC. At least not from scratch. I'll go as far as am4 can take me. Hopefully by then my kids are town and can buy their own PC or have moved out.
Same here, though I'm not sure there will be another console generation, considering they are doing away with exclusives. By the time the current generation approaches the end of it's lifecycle, they will be facing stiff competition from mini PCs, handheld PCs and Steam OS, which Valve seems totally willing to share with any handheld manufacturer. Also, by then, I expect pretty much everything will be able to run on Steam OS.
"You look like a complete moron". Let'em have it Jay. I love it.
Basically he's saying "hop on google on whatever device you can & do your own research before spewing out nonsense on what you want to happen rather than what is fact." Yes PC will probably always trump console in overall performance but console will probably always trump PC in convenience & ease. If you have the patience to learn, buy a PC, but if you just want to game buy a console.
@@xtremezone987 steam os is practically the same as console convenience tho
@@xtremezone987 Well I'd argue, not really. Game launchers like Steam make installing games very easy and on consoles web browser and media watching are soooooooooo much worse than on PC and you're locked to whatever garbage media player they provide that doesn't ever support proprietary codecs.
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@@acidthefurry6684problem is you have to actually install steam os. The people that want the plug and play functionality of a console probably don’t want to do any of the extra stuff. Configuring hardware, finding a better os, drivers, the whole suite. I’m a tech guy, in my day job I’m a software engineer, so I have no issue navigating a pc, but sometimes if there’s a hiccup, I’m just gonna turn off my pc and play my ps5 simply because I don’t want to deal with it. I can imagine someone that has no tech knowledge may have less tolerance for pc than myself.
Let’s look at this through a non biased lens. Just for context I am a PC player with a higher end build. I know people that play on PlayStation and are asking about the value of the Pro. So here’s the breakdown based on this video. You build this PC for $695.
My buddy now has to look at this and think, “I’m getting a PC now”. Your build because you said “you should be playing on monitor if you’re on pc”. So now he will have pay for a monitor. Depending on monitor he gets if it doesn’t have speakers now he has to buy a set or even a headset. Your build didn’t include mouse and keyboard so now we gotta buy a set. Just adding these 4 components will increase the cost for at least another couple hundred dollars. PC is better if you can afford it but it is costly even in the lower end builds. People on PlayStation are playing on already owned tv’s and system comes with controller so they have full access to a system ready to plug and play.
You would be right if you couldn't use controllers on PC couldn't plug your PC up to a TV and couldn't use headsets made for the PlayStation on your PC. But you can do all of those things.
These prices definitely blurred the line between... "Just get a console." "PC Master Race"
It only blurs the reasons to buy a console. There is a reason when gaming starts crashing again, the PC will still have new games to play
@@neofloggin3687 to blur it more if you don't mind getting used parts then its actually cheaper to build a similar system with better performance and pc has more versitily and no extra subscription
@@neofloggin3687 thousands of Indie Games with a number of them being Hidden GEMS
@@neofloggin3687 you know that almost every 3rd party developer prioritizes their games for consoles first right?
For the pc community it is a sad truth, games would be so much further ahead if they weren't held back by consoles@@thetrilltroll7633
I don't even think 8k will ever be a thing for a very long time. Just seems very unnecessary. HDR would have a much bigger impact on visuals I think.
8K is already a thing, just games, computers, and consoles can't process it fast enough to be used, TV's / movies can.
And unless you're super budget, basically every TV/Console/PC already support HDR/UHDR, and Ray Tracing is rapidly approaching being right there beside it.
8K is pretty pointless though, and if anything doesn't need to be developed any further, but tech/tv manufacturers *have* to, because if they don't once they make 8k UHDR OLed etc etc panels, and they all become so affordable people have them and aren't upgrading to the latest and greats yearly they will go out of business.
So because of that Display tech will continue to be so far ahead nothing can fully utilize it, if someone bought an 8K + extras today, that display would be beyond usable spec for atleast 10 years.
until a 7900 xtx or more powerful can be integrated into a console I'd think
8k coming out next year. Get ready!
dont forget the 8k gaming card NVIDIA RTX 3090
Native 8k at 60fps will be talked about when the 6090 comes out. So we are less than 3 years away probably from a fully capable 8k60 GPU...The real issue with 8k is that Samsung is the only manufacture releasing 8k tv's, and they are not lowering the MRSP each year.. As long as they are the only ones releasing a yearly 8k tv, adoption rate is going to move at a snails pace
0:34 "Today we're gonna use our friends at microcenter to see how well we can come..."
😂😂
We will come
Do not come, do not come.
I RAMmed my floppy into the USB-A hole and sprayed my thermal grease all over the buttons 😫
Everybody must come
Don't forget the scalpers bro..... They ain't gonna sell ps5 pro for 700 bucks lol.
The reason they said “67%” instead of “60 CUs” is because to 99.999% of people on the planet, “60 CUs” means absolutely nothing.
They won’t have a clue how many CUs the PS5 has, or even what that means (“is that like 4K or something?”)
But 67%… well, that’s clearly a more biggerer, betterer, more impressive number! You will obviously get 67% more graphics!
(This is still a rip off, just explaining how marketing droids think)
I love marketing, its an entire industry where your job is to sell things to people that are the furthest removed from the item your pitching xD Your not selling ice to an eskimo your selling ice to a camel...
That's because the way they explained it in the reveal was very disingenuous, it is actually a change in architecture, the PS5 Pro is using a RDNA 3 Navi 32 Chip because it has a better upscaling performance.
But even still it only barely breaks even with the Xbox's RDNA 2 Navi 21 chip
Percentages change. CU counts don't. For example, the 890m has 33% more CUs then the 880m but doesn't equate to 33% more performance. More like 15%
Of course it’s disingenuous. That’s by design. The entire gaming hardware industry is designed to confuse consumers.
You think the average punter on the street understands that 4060 is worse than a 3080? And surely a 6700 is better than both, right?
I pay attention to this shit and even I couldn’t tell you if an Xbox series X or S is better (partly cos I don’t care).
@@o_sagui6583 PS5 Pro is RDNA 4.
The other thing that people often forget is you can hook up your PS or Xbox controller to your PC and play your games like that for a LOT of titles and you can have your casual gaming experience like on your console.
Yep. And you can enable big picture mode on Steam and browse and launch your game collection with a controller too. You don't even need to buy an expensive monitor, it certainly massively improves the experience, but a computer works just fine connected to same tv that the console is connected to. I had my PC connected to my living room TV for years before I ever purchased a monitor.
Also GeForce Now for those non competitive games
My PC auto boots into big picture. So it's very close to console. Let's be real, console are also closer to PC now. Gone are the days when you can just put disk in and play. Unless you ok with you console to be on standby, you have to sit through updates too.
Best of both worlds for me. Some games I prefer a controller. Others work better on keyboard and mouse. Whatever the case may be, I'm covered with my PC.
I claim "pc master race" but i strictly only use an xbox controller when i play games lol. I simply suck when using a keyboard and mouse even though i have decent gaming Corsair board and Logitech mouse..
I simply prefer controller and rly wish more if not ALL games had controller support!
The funny part will be that PS5 Pro will be sold out, so it will end up costing $1k in the scalpers market. 😅
Its over $1000 just adding 3 years of PSN ($80/year) any PS5 Pro owner will pay throughout ownership. Its part of consoke ownership and should absolutely be included in the price comparison.
@@conchobarI haven’t paid a dime for ps+ in 5 years lol I have the highest tier as well it’s so easy to get for free
Sold out because of the lack of supply like before but at least gta 6 on 30fps will be ballin
@@ziegfeld4131 you do not get psn+ for free on your main account. stop lying. you'd get banned instantly.
@@wsdfgesdfr5786 people will buy this console for GTA6. the pc release will be much later... (i hope not)
Playstation 5: No game changing features. No gotta-have-it games. No exclusives. No extra value compared to a PC of similar cost. No disc drive (usually). No upgradeability.
Playstation 5 PRO: slightly sharper leaves.
Ps5 has no exclusives?
@Pointman11111 If a game releases a year later on pc that negates it being exclusive. Do yourself a favor and count up actual exclusives that have not come to pc and the VR titles do not count. Your comment wreaks of console fanboi. The only console worth purchasing in this day and age is a nintendo console and even then you can usually emulate it with better frames and resolution when they release because nintendo is using very outdated hardware that is easily emulated on a lower tier pc. Consoles are the fisher price entry level gaming these days. Anyone serious about gaming plays on a pc.
Well upgradebilty is Not a Point of this build………did you see which part were used for Doing this pc? For an Upgrade you’ll have to change motherboard, cpu, gpu and even ram, which is What it costs you more. And maybe also a better cooler for the Future CPU, case for a bigger GPU and a Power Supply as well. A 700$ Build makes no Sense for upgradability
rofl no one knows what the pro is capable of and I doubt a 700 dollar pc will be able to compete or play anything day 1 like the pro will be able to play hell right now you still can't play Gow ragnarock on pc or spiderman 2 so we shall see I probably won't buy one at lauch because of scalpers not because it's not worth it and btw I have a 2k dollar pc I still want the pro
Only reason i will buy one is because of gta 6, literally the only reason.
Disclaimer: I am a PC player and long ago abandoned consoles (PS2 maybe? lol). I have long said and continue to argue that PCs are better for gaming in almost every way - even if you want to game on your nice TV from your couch with a controller. However, there is something console players get that PC users will never get - optimization. Because a console is locked down with proprietary software and even some of the hardware, every console should behave the same way every time. Yes, obviously there are outliers just like there are with literally everything, but in general that PS5 sitting on Jay's desk should behave the same as any other PS5 in anyone else's house. Because of this, games released on consoles can be ultra optimized by the devs all the way down to the most miniscule of tweaks in an attempt to squeeze the most performance or the best looking visuals on potentially lesser hardware - and it should be rather consistent from machine to machine. This is why a lot of console gamers believe they're getting the better deal because they didn't have to do anything other than plug it in, and turn it on
Look, we ALL know more than one person in our lives that we just wish DIDN'T have a computer because they're so tech-illiterate that they're always asking for help. Do you want THAT person gaming on a custom gaming PC? Absolutely NOT. There's also just something to be said for the ease of use and convenience of a console - and for some people that's worth it even if they know they could be getting more with a PC
Anyway there's something for everyone, and I truly believe that the argument of "which is better" is literally the stupidest argument ever because they just aren't made for the same people for the same purpose
TY for coming to my TeD TaLk
I only keep my console around for its exclusives. Everything else is on PC. Steam Deck is the best console to date
its like the iPhones vs android comparison, all iPhones run on the same software and basically hardware, so that means that optimizing for all iPhones will be easier, unlike android, where each android phone is completely different
Well said. Good balance of pros and cons and pointing out the whole different strokes for different folks thing.
I am also a PC gamer, (5900x & 3080) and love the high quality visuals and FPS I get @3440x1440.
I'm still going to be buying a PS5 Pro. Why? As you said, optimization and plug'n'play. A benefit you left out are the few exclusive games (if you care about the exclusives, which, yes, I do). There are also some game publishers (Looking at you Ubisoft and EA) that have launchers and unoptimized/laggy games with Jedi Survivor being a perfect example of unoptimized/laggy a year and change after release, when my pc should have a smooth high FPS experience. On PS5, I've heard it plays a lot better, and bonus, doesn't have the stupid launchers. Also, I will be buying the UHD-bluray player for 4k movie night which is something my pc CANNOT do since I can't find a 4kBluRay player for PC (that reads 4k movies, ask my UHD-bluray read/writer for my PC on the difference *exasperated sigh*). FInal reason for buying the PS5 Pro, I have an OG PS4 with a ton of games for it (some on discs) which will benefit from the PS5 Pro's backwards compatability and uplift in visuals/performance.
Disclaimer: If I already owned a PS5, I wouldn't buy the PS5 Pro, just like I didn't buy the PS4 pro because I have an OG PS4.
With a PC, you just brute force your way through the bad optimisations, I dropped consoles when they stopped making real mod chips for them, PS2 and OG XBOX if I remember, I much prefer to own my hardware and do what ever I like with it, versus this locked down eco system of consoles today, even if I have to pay twice as much for it, a powerful PC doesn't just play games, it has a crap ton of other uses, so much better investment in my opinion, I run a HTPC with Bazzite on there and it turns my TV into giant Steamdeck, very console like experience.
And the fact that for a casual AAA gamer or for kids console is just better, can't beat the ease of use and price in those scenarios. But the Pro is still overpriced, even if it's better value for the hardware.
Technically, Windows is free to use without activating, and all features are unlocked except the watermark and the personalization features.
You can also use a cardboard box as a case! LOL
@@bfhandsomeface409 Lol that could actually be kind of legit. Or a freebie leftover case with super old hardware in it. There's bagillions of old dells and Hps out there that people would throw in the trash when they get around to cleaning. I used a custom case from like 2000 for my first pc and all ebay used parts, worked for years.
HoloISO
And you can also use any variation of Linux that are completely free.
PlayStation's os is a fork of FreeBSD or something, so using Linux or FreeBSD on the pc is the "technically" more accurate comparison.
People are mad over 700$ price for a complete gaming system, meanwhile us PC gamers are fuming over 700-900$ prices for "mid range" cards.
Lol true. Our 1 component upgrade is more. But we can keep the rest of the build for many years.
@@eternalbeing3339 you mean like a gtx680 $500 build from 2012 then in 2022 grab a 4090 for $1600.
@@eternalbeing3339unless all the socket types change...
What cards are that expensive mid-range? 4070tiS and 7900XT are high-end cards and everything below that is not 700 bucks.
@@anitaremenarova6662 is a 3080s below a 4070ti Super because a 3080s was $999 at launch?
I built a PC with a B450 motherboard paired with a Ryzen 5 2600 back in 2019! Super cheap build with an HDD! Last year I threw in a Gen4 m.2 SSD and a Ryzen 5 5600 and that upgrade cost me less than 200€! The amount of performance upgrade I got is crazy! Now saving for a 400-500€ GPU and that will give me 60fps gaming on 1440p for the next few years! By the time it will be outdated, it will be a 10 year old motherboard! AM4 is(was) an unbelievable foundation to build a PC!
I mean, specifically people are pissed that the price point went to $700 USD, and while there is a performance uplift (they didn't show it well), the main issue is that is 200 bucks more, with no disc drive included, and no vertical stand (which is whatever to me, but people did bring it up as a pain point). If people are spending that much (especially if they don't have really good internet), a disc drive is 100% a must.
Not just that, games are cheaper by buying the disc the majority of the time, especially used.
Yeah the reason I have no interest in the ps5 pro is simply that the disc drive is a forced extra. No thanks. I actually use my ps5 as my blu ray player, and I like buying physical game copies on console often times, I need that disc drive. Paying 775 dollars just to get like 60fps ray tracing in some games... nah if it is a graphically crazy game like cyberpunk I will just stick to pc for that.
The PS5 Slim didn't come with a Stand or Bluray drive and was $450.
Ever since Ai introduce. Each gen performance uplift is very disappointed & expensive
Wow, asked for it on Discord and even the sponsor I suggested 😂. Yay.
That's pretty cool
Was thinking about the suggestion, I saw it earlier today, dude!
I’m just gonna sit in a corner with my 7900XTX and comfort its feelings for not doing 8K 60 like the PS5.
the ps5 can't either. it can output in 8k 60 and play an 8k video but that's all it can do.
@@sirmonkey1985 sarcasm brethren
Even my 4090 doesnt want to do 8k 60fps
Same. I now feel so poor for playing 4k/120 on my XTX and wish I had a superior PoS5 pro.
That PS5 pro is gonna do 1080p upscaled to 4k I guarantee it.
13:07 why should no PC gamer play on a TV??? I wasn't even aware that there is a right and a wrong way of doing it. Just because having a dedicated desk and sitting right in front of your monitor is right for you doesn't mean it's the only acceptable way. I've been gaming on a 65" OLED TV at 120Hz for the past five years or so and I had a lot of fun with it. My TV is better than most monitors. It's color graded and I'm even editing all my photos on the TV. Claiming that people SHOULDN'T use a TV for a PC is just nonsense.
Tvs usually have higher response time which creates input lag.
@@Caddi1985 Many TVs have game mode. My 65" 4K 120Hz VRR HDR109 tv has been measured to 8ms input lag in game mode, which is perfectly fine for couch gaming, and not much than most 120hz gaming monitors on the market.
LG C1 and current gen 55” tvs have 1ms look it up
It's a matter of pixel density that prevents most from using a larger display like a 65" 4k TV as a monitor. Sure they are much better now then in the past with latency. BUT I don't feel like sitting 10+ feet away from the display in order to not see the pixels. A 65" 4K TV is unusable when you are too close, and at a proper distance to prevent seeing the pixels, you're basically turning your 65" TV into a usable 27 - 34" display. SO for me I would rather just slap three 27" 1440p monitors in front of me. At the typical desk sitting distance (about 3 feet)a 27" 1440P monitor has enough pixel density to not distinguish the spaces between them. So as long as you are happy with sitting that far from your display, cool. Also If your TV was 4k and 40" or less then pixel density wouldn't be an issue, but then you would have to sit much closer, weight of a TV would be the main concern at that point, as most quality higher pixel dense TV weigh substantially more then a monitor. Since they tend to forgo the speakers, TV tuner and other things that add the weight to the TV.
@@JJ_ExMachina I Play on 42" LG OLED, 2 meters from screen. Pixel density is really good in 4K games. 1440p is a bit blurrier but still looks nice. My friend have 55" and 65". He basically stop using 65" one because of pixel density.
Consoles also are generally sold at a loss or close to it since they are subsidized by game sales. The PS5 pro not having some other selling point makes the $700 price tag not as bearable. For example, the PS3 being a $600 bluray player ON TOP OF being a console at a time when bluray players alone were $1,000 was it's selling point and I've heard that they actually cost Sony $1k to make. Of course bluray was Sony's format and it won, so they've made WAAAY more back.
I am done with consoles. Going PC all the way now
Goood Anakin, Goooooood
Welcome to the PC Master Race. We have jackets, and have coffee and cake every Monday when we meet up to laugh at pleb console gamers. Lol
Our Internet connection is our subscription!
Wat about gta 6
Same
This video is gonna hit a million. Wake me up when.
Wake up!
a $700 PC build is absolutely a budget build, lol.
Add 300 and i just build a beast that will work for 8years easy for my wife
7600x cpu and a used 6900xt gpu and 32gb ram and 2tb storage in m.2 form factor.
@@Apemania69 exactly. and when you do upgrade, you're only replacing a 1-2 parts, not the entire thing.
Yes 😂
and will still outshine a PS5
A $700 budget is not what people on a budget usually have to spend on a PC. A budget build is usually around the $300-$500 range, and yes, that gives you a subpar gaming PC, but that's the point, as long as it works it's good to go.
Gotta say,
In that thumbnail, your PC looks scared!
FIGHT!
The PS5 Pro costs $1,200 AUD without the disk drive or plastic stand, AND before taxes.
Not to even mention the monthly subscription fee for online play.
That's a lot of money, regardless.
Yeah fuck that bro. 😂
crazy its only 800 in new zealand with tax
The whole disc drive thing baffles me, who fits a disc drive to a pc? Nobody why are people crying about it not having a disc drive? I have a ps5 with a disc drive but only because it was the only one I could get near launch when they were near impossible to get and the only disc I ever used was GTA5 PS4 disc but then they brought out a ps5 update for it so it's never been used in like 2 years
lies.jb hifi aus have it listed as $1199. tax is always included in prices from stores. get educated.
@@Rawreeee its $1379 in nz with taxes.
Warhammer 40K: Space Marines 2 has shown that a beefier CPU should have been seriously considered.
I disagree SM2 is kinda of an outlier on CPU usage, there's very few games that hit it that hard. Even so, I am away from my main PC but was impressed to be able to get over 60fps playing SM2 on my old 8700k/2080ti with DLSS performance, high settings @ 1440p (CachyOS) no overclock just XMP. If an 8700k can run it, a 12600k should rinse it with an extra 4 E cores and higher turbo/cache.
The PS5 Pro should have a Zen 3 X3D chip and RDNA3 iGPU. Total product fail.
@@Lurch-Bot the ps5 PRO will lacks when its cpu bound. the ps5 PRO cpu only boost to 3,6 ghz. they should have upgraded this aswell
@@pvg103103 I think in that way too is just a sinple OC but them I realize that the gddr6 vram is faster too and this will give another boost in cpu performance. Something like a zen2 3700x stock with 3000mhz ram to OC 3700x with 3800mhz ram.
@@skorne7682baldurs gate 3 act 3 says hi.
Duuuuuude. Ease up on the Microcenter. I bet 90 % your viewers just don't have one around.
Indeed I damn sure they don't I'm in Mississhitty...newest Microcenter to me is 2 states away
Normally, I would agree, but I do live in Miami where they just open the Micro Center and it really is a wonderful place. That being said there were quite a few Asterix on this video. If you didn’t have access to those Micro Center deals and let’s not forget how much more a 2 TB drive would’ve been, yeah you’re talking way more than $700. I have a PS five and a PC I am not a fanboy of either. I think both still have their place.
WA state. Home to Microsoft, largest used operating system on PC, and Valve, largest used digital PC game store.
No Micro Center.
Got a microcenter a few miles from me on long island
@@Rhomagus There's an empty Fry's Electronics store outside Seattle that Microcenter should be moving into.
24:30 "It's the Sony police." 🤣
"They're after me" 😂
Another round of attempting to convert my one friend and random strangers online to PC.
Problem there is not everyone is in to desktop gaming or running their PC from the couch. Consoles do have there advantage.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.T actually not if you play your games on steam there is a special menu where you can control all the menu of steam by your controller,
and im sure if you are wise enough you can even make it work as a mouse in windows.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.TAll you have to do is connect the PC to the living room tv and keep a wireless keyboard and mouse on the table. That's it. If you want you can use steam in big picture mode to make it more console-like.
@@PorMisLatinos89 Big Screen mode sure but you still need a keyboard and mouse to start it. Anyone who's taking it that far to control everything with the controller, which I have no doubt you can, probably really just needs a console. I have another PC hooked to my TV (as well as my XSX) and just use a wireless K&M. Good enough to start games then it's time to lean back.
@@formless_dev Did you not read what I said. When I say not everyone wants to run their PC (especially if its their only PC) from the couch, I didn't just mean to game. There are a lot of other things to do on a PC. I have a PC hooked to my TV and do exactly that, but it's not my primary PC and the TV is pretty close to the couch so I'll do some 'PC' stuff there. If there was any distance....yeah hell no.
B660 ....not B650 6:35
So thats the wrong link in the description?
$700 dollar PC is a great price because it's a computer that you can personalise at your own risk, a $700 console is damn overpriced for a gaming only machine that requires a subscription to play most games online, a hefty expensive controller that got a price increase, stand sold separately and no disc drive...no matter what external reasons that cause Sony to put that hefty price tag, it is such a stupid price, and they didn't even cut the price for the base PS5 because if they did that, they had to decrease the price of the Pro and Sony doesn't like customers paying cheaper.
"4k consoler for the best GTA6 experience" < that's the only sales pitch that Sony needs.
And before you say it: yes, PC is versitile and it's not actually 4k and I agree, but it doesn't really matter for most non-tech-savvy people.
You can build an RX 7700XT pc for like $850 which is not that much more than a ps5 pro with a disc drive. The PS5 Pro is just not worth the $200 premium over the ps5 with a disc drive.
Well its not a 700 dollor price . He left out the price for a decent mouse and monitor the pc . Im starting from scratch.
why are you worried about the disc drive... if your a pc player I garentee 99.9% of your games are digital. also if you have an older GPU like mine the 2080super then for me to upgrade I need to get a new cpu so I don't bottle neck. and that means a new motherboard and now the ddr4 ram doesn't work so have to upgrade to ddr5. literally a full rebuild. a 4080 alone cost double a ps5.
@@craniumjunglist8934 Good point.
It's actually even more complicated than that.
If you want to buy PS5Pro for its features, chances are you have a high refresh rate low-latency 4k TV.
It's been a while since I've been window-shopping, but it still costs an arm and a leg, no?
Considering that you've bought *that* for gaming, chances are you wouldn't be that price sensitive about the 200-300$ markup to get the most value out of it.
Jay constantly saying "asstricks" when referring to an asterisk will haunt my dreams for at least 3 days.
Say it three times in the mirror and Jay shows up behind you 😂
Take a drink every time Jay says 'ass tricks'.
You can just set it horizontal without a stand too
And overheat your PS5 that way.
Nah. I've had in vertical since day one without that stupid stand and had no issues.
@@ThisisCitrus had it horizontal since 2020 with no overheating. They wouldn't make it an option if it didn't work. In fact I've heard more issues with the liquid metal leaking out vertical than horizontal
@@ThisisCitrus haha no. Most people I know have their PS5 horizonal on/in the TV unit. How may have you ever heard of that overheat?
I think its worth mentioning you can install and use windows for free, un-activated of course. But it will function fine, without certain customizability.
that's not the same as a PS5 Pro. You buy a PS5 Pro, turn it on, and there's no watermark. For a test to be the same, you can't use un-activated Windows.
I've been saying this for years now but literally the only reason to buy a ps5 over a pc is the exclusives. So in the case of the ps5 pro.... there's no reason to buy it at all.
Everyone in Europe: what's a microcenter?
Inderdaad
Correction at time stamp 5:29
Sony has been making over 50 dollars on each PS5 sold for a while now.
I think the biggest positive for PC is the fact you can play pretty much any PC game in existence with a PC. You can also play the majority of console games on the same PC up to 360/ps4. You can also upgrade that system at any time and do not have to buy a whole new system every 3-5 years.
You can also emulate PS1/2/3 on pc very well now
@@Kiwing827 I was implying that. Xd
Amazon priced - AMD 5600, ASRock MB, 16gb patriot Ram, Zalman case w/fans, 2tb Teamgroup 3.0 nvme, 600w Bronze PSU, RX7600, Peerless assasin $697.56 .....Windows is $15 from CJ CDKeys
Where's your bluetooth? You can't even pair a Dualsense to this build.
@@speedforce131 Huh? you can get a usb bluetooth for under 20$ lol
@@speedforce131 I hope that's sarcasm, lol.
Remember, you HAVE to compare this to the PS5 digital (which is $399), because the PS5 Pro does not have the disc drive. It's actually $780 if you want to compare it to the $499 disc version. Thus, it's $280-300 more expensive. It's not $200 more.
Doesn't the base model also come with a stand instead of charging $30 for it
Still a dick move my Sony for locking people's physical libraries behind an $80 paywall in the form of the separately sold Blu-ray drive.
We all know Sony wants people locked in their digital library where everything is non-transferable and can be revoked at any time. Mark my words: the PS6 will get rid of the Blu-ray drive and force digital-only.
You will own nothing and be happy.
Wrong. As expected from Jayz subscriber, typical
@@Tanook Bruh how is that wrong? It's objectively true that the PS5 Pro does not include the disc drive and has to be purchased separately, making it cost $780 (+$30 for the stand, but most don't have their console vertical)
@@EclipsisCorvus ps5 digital does not cost $399
“Pc gamers should not be playing on a TV” is such a condescending statement. PC gamers can play however they want: a TV with a controller, via Moonlight with game streaming to a handheld, on their lap with a laptop - it really doesn’t matter. That statement was so self-righteous and dumb that it’s put me off Jay lmao
I often play my PC on a big old plasma when I'm using a controller with a cinematic game, works a treat.
My LG C2 would like a word, Jay 😊
@@SpongyWhale Plasma TV were so fluid, but yet, so hot and heavy ahahahah. I miss that era.
I could be wrong, but isn't this because of latency/input lag and refresh rates? Obviously it's still a bit silly but I don't think he's just saying it for literally no reason, probably just something he's internalized lol. I've always heard you shouldn't do all your editing on a TV for the same reason
@@FramingTheNarrative I think he's correct for 99% of the TVs out there but a nice 120hz OLED is perfectly fine imo
I'm waiting for the PS6 Turbo Extreme Big Balls Edition. Until then my 4080 will do.
even that ps6 TEBBE edition will get beat by a 4070 lol
I'm dead
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 PS5 Pro's gpu is equivalent to a 4070 or 4060ti
@@dmvsye4060 or 4060ti. But for sure not to a 4070
@@Adrian13579ful We'll see
Have been a fan of Sony for about 20 years and have owned every one of their consoles since the PS1.
After having to deal with their BS PS+ price increases and seeing how little they care about their customers by choosing to charge $800 for a PS5 'pro' instead of making games for the PS5 I've decided I will never buy another thing from them for as long as I live.
Why can't people like both? I have a pretty badass gaming PC but I also like consoles. and how easy they are and the fact that you don't have to upgrade it that can be looked at as a pro or a con my PS5 10 years from now I can just play any AAA game and never have to worry about it I think both are nice.
Exactly. PC nerds are always feel threatened from console owners, it’s just weird.
I’ve got a PS5 and a 4090 pc. And I agree, just pressing the On button, X on a game, and I’m off playing. Consoles are fun and are damn close to mid level pc.
But the joy of Windows updates, Armoury crate, Nvidia drivers, Steam updating, then game to crash on day 1 launch… isn’t a huge selling point to them 😂
@@ElectroPanPipes Brother, if you have the money for both, ofcourse it's a non issue. It's about the value proposition, if you just have enough extra money for a ps5 pro + peripherals + purchasing games + ps online sub then you should consider maybe buying a pc. The discussion is not targeted at people who have disposable income that buying 2 gaming rigs is a non issue, and you make it sound like prebuilt for mid range builds can't go for cheap or people can't ask a friend or ask online. Like people are already familiar with using a pc for basic usage like installing a browser or software, what makes you think some extra steps that you'd only really have to do once is such an issue?
"But the joy of Windows updates, Armoury crate, Nvidia drivers, Steam updating, then game to crash on day 1 launch… isn’t a huge selling point to them"
Name 1 windows update that broke/gave issues to majority of its current user base, especially for gaming
Armory crate? Asus? Just get a basic peripheral or cheap gaming peripherals FFS what a stupid nitpick lol pc performance > expensive pc peripherals. You don't need software for them if you just want to game lol it's for power users
Nvidia drivers? It depends on the game and Nvidia driver updates doesn't break a lot of games, just some extreme and weird cases. Heck even some games are at fault (New World breaking 3080s in the game menu lol)
Steam updating? Stupid nitpick, it's a non issue it just happens then you forget about it and it just works lol
Then game to crash on day 1 launch? Stop buying triple A slop lol Majority of games are fine at launch
@@Mathster_live As I said, PC nerds getting defensive… you proved my point. Nobody cares 😂
Yeah it's more about figuring out when a console gets too expensive relative to a PC. The PS5 pro is walking that line, given that not everyone can "just buy both." Most people don't have the budget, so they want to get the most for their money. It's not about liking one or the other, it's strictly a value proposition question. I think a majority of game fans would love to have all the consoles and a handheld or two and a gaming laptop and a nice PC build, but we end up choosing the one or two or if we're lucky 3 or 4 we can afford.
@@Mathster_live I don't have a ton of money matter of fact I live paycheck to paycheck but saving up and buying a PlayStation and then slowly buying piece by piece to build a PC is not extremely hard unless I guess you're homeless without a job then it might be extremely hard. I love being able to get on my pc and do a bunch of extra things and game I'm actually getting really good at mouse and keyboard now but consoles are kick ass because you can just turn it on and start gaming.
a 25 minute ad for microcenter
It's super cool because the closest Microcenter to me is 800 miles away in Denver.
And you can see the self-bashing in every video now.
Good, if its selling good products let him. If onlyy my nearest microcenter wasnt 9 meridians due east , i'd build my pc from them.
Even with the asterisks he still failed but needs that sweet sweet MC loot. I’m a PC and console gamer. The PS Pro is a joke and priced high because Sony can.
cope
I'm starting to get pissed seeing this microcenter builds.
Bro ik, they’re so damn cheap, im taking a vacation down to the continental usa with my friends and im gonna go to my first microcenter.
When doing comparisons between console and pc I never go just by the cost of the console alone. I also include the cost of online access over the life of the console. I believe ps plus is about $90/yr.
I generally count a console lifespan as 10 years. But we'll give the benefit of the doubt and say 6 years since the ps5 has been out for 4 years. So 6 x $90 = $540. $700 + $540 = $1,240. With that budget you can crush a console in price to performance.
Edit: my brother in christ, windows is free.
The basic price for online is 9.99 a month which is 119 if you pay for the whole year
@zerosam5541 ps plus essential is $79.99/year. So i was off by $10. Yeah it costs more if you pay monthly but I was just using the yearly price.
Here's an on budget and a more like for like build. Only from Part Picker:
CPU: R5 Ryzen 3600 - $89.99
Cooler: Stock Fan - $0
MB: Asus Prime B450-A II - $69.98
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw V 16GB DDR4 3200 CL16 - $32.98
SSD: Teamgroup MP33 2TB NVMe SSD - $96.99
GPU: Acer Nitro OC RX 7700XT - $379.99
Case: Cool Master Master Box Q300L - $39.99
PSU: ThermalTake Smart 600 80+ 600W PSU - $40.99
Total Cost: $750.92
However, I personally would upgrade most of the parts if I was building a PC in this region. I wouldn't class any of the parts as being great or reliable.
This was just to show that you can get extremely close to the PS5 Pro's price, specs and performance. If at the expense of sacrificing some RT performance and build quality. In fact you probably could hit that $700, if you went even cheaper on lesser branded parts, looked around in sales, picked up a combo deal from MicroCenter or obviously bought some used parts.
😂 wow b450 😂😂😂
@@promo130 Then 2 other options:
Option 1: Change it for Gigabyte B550 M K and pay $4 more. Yeah, it gives you PCIe 4.0, which allows you to eventually upgrade it with a faster SSD and faster RAM. However, you lose out on 2 Ram slots, it's onboard VRM's are terrible and it's general build quality is poor in comparison (Did breifly consider it).
Option 2: Is to buy a low-end B550M motherboard by ASUS or MSI for around $20-$50 more, instead.
However, that then defeats the entire purpose of trying to keep it as close to the price of the PS5 Pro, as possible. Also, a B450 motherboard is more than adequate for the rest of the components that I listed. It's also more than adequate to be used in a build that equals or beats a PS5 Pro. Sticking the parts that I used into a B550 motherboard instead, would barely make any impact at all to it's output performance. It would only open up a few more upgrade paths.
I personally wouldn't cheap out on parts for a build that at equals or betters a PS5 Pro. However, it's $700 overall cost was a major constraint. So I went for as cheap as possible components, while still using well renown brands. In doing so, I also wavered away some possible upgrade paths. But let's face it, the PS5 Pro is still far more limited in that regard.
I mean that graphic card isnt equivalent to the ps5 pro either, this in fact prove your gonna have a bottom of the barrell pc to not even match the ps5 pro, according to steam the ps5 pro is probably gonna perform better than the vast majority of ppl on steam.
@@brotherdarknessgaming44797700xt does match the 6800, but its still a bad value card compared with last gen 6750xt
@brotherdarknessgaming4479 The ps5 pro has rdna 2 GPU with so slightly better raytracing at best you better off just building a pc around a 7700XT which will run you $900.
24:31 The Sony Police wants this video taking down asap !!!!
🤣😅😂
What would be great is seeing consoles come out with a way less locked down OS, like Steam OS. Get similar idiotproofness to existing consoles, but far more flexible on what it can do and amount of games it can play. Basically a mini-PC with Steam OS and a controller.
That's what Steam machines wanted to be. If you put HoloISO on that machine it would just be it. It would also work best with AMD GPU, so something like 6750xt would be a much better fit.
I think they keep things locked down to prevent exploits from being run on them like in the past. Don’t really see many modded consoles these days online anymore because of it.
Years ago, I taught my young daughter about older consoles. She picked up donkey Kong on the SNES and was hooked, she beat it in months. Proudest moment of my life :)
If you're gaming anything other than 1080p you're not a budget gamer
but but 4k jk jk
hope your doing well Jay and your health is way up... much loves and many blessings bruddah
What about the 🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮 that’s an extra $80
Console fans aren't pissed off that the PS5 Pro is $700. They are pissed off that a $700 "Pro" model doesn't come with an optical drive that the current, cheaper model already has.
So basically they take no loss on the system now, and they make up even more with $70 games and a subscription fee ....
it's called a business
@@Avenge_ComputersI call them criminals 😅
@@Avenge_Computers Is that what they call it ?! .... 😆. I'm just saying it's funny how much things have changed, they use to take a loss of the systems ( according to what Jay is saying ) and that loss was made up for in game sales ( which wasn't $70 but more in the range of $20 - $60 depending the games ) and there wasn't any subscription fees or at least that I was aware of. Last time I had a console when new was back when PS3 came out.
Dude they sell at a loss
@@promo130 They don't sell the base PS5 at a loss. That is crazy talk. The CPU probably costs them close to nothing, it's a 5 year old architecture that isn't even sold in stores anymore. All of the components are old and Sony probably gets them at dirt cheap prices in bulk.
Everyone’s ignoring the fact that the original PS5 had *8K* on the box and we *STILL* don’t have that capability, yet we’re getting a PS5 Pro
Do you get an 8K user interface for the home screen? Because that would count towards that, legally lol.
@@TheRealEclipse1 I think there is actually one game that runs at 8k then downscales to 4k on the ps5. Its called The Touryst. But yeah thats literally it.
It has 8k video playback on the like 20% of movies that support it
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You're forgetting one thing it's a closed ecosystem and all digital.
no, you can still buy a disc drive for it. WTH are you talking about?
@@badz1497why are you defending a hundred billion dollar company's product when you can get the same and more from a pc? Like you're being exploited by the marketing. And let's be real there are a handful of PS exclusive games worth playing. And a pc is much more than a gaming rig.
@@dreep_0 he's not defending anything, just stating the fact that you can in fact get a physical disc drive for the PS5 right now and use physical discs right now, today.
@@dreep_0 where in my comment did I "defend" the company? I just wanted to correct the clearly false information. since the PS5 Slim, the PS5 is no longer an all digital system because you can always attach the BD drive to play physical games. The PC is all digital, the PS5 is not. sorry, but that's just the truth.
and why is the talk about "much more than gaming" stuff? if you're not thinking about gaming, why would you even consider a PS5, let alone the Pro? I have a PC too and hundreds of games spread across Steam EGS, GoG and Ubisoft Connect. I still see myself playing more games on my PS5 because over there too, I have hundreds of games since the PS4 time and games I got from PS+ since I subscribed during the PS4 launch. so, given if I have $700 burning in my pocket, do I buy a $700 GPU or the PS5 Pro? I will buy the Pro 9 times out of 10 because that's just what I prefer. these talks about "just go PC" is really ignorant to those who just prefer gaming on consoles.
That computer you built, looks just like a cute puppy with a 3060 bone in its mouth, the fans are the eyes, the cooler the nose... just so cute.
It’s definitely a different value proposition but I personally can’t see a scenario where I’d go back to console. I have over a decade of purchases on Steam/GOG/Epic/Whatever else and I don’t have to have 5 different boxes plugged into a tv to play them lol
In short, it wasn't even nearly possible to match PS5 Pro. Even with specific bundle and while ignoring mouse and keyboard and the fact that most people can't build an optimized PC or even a working one. So the price is over 1000 dollars even for this build.
At 1k it's still better value than the pro.
This video proved the opposite of everything you just said. Did you even watch it?
@@iconoclast485 Did you? I already wrote a specific enough comment, I'm not going to explain it further to every PC fanboy.
Remember if you live outside of US, your PS5 Pro budget goes up to like 1k lol. So just do it?
Stopped watching when i realized this is just one big commercial for Micro Center. 🙄
Wow, it is possible to build a computer for less than $700 nowadays. It seems like everyone has been pushing $1500 as the new budget build PC.
$1500 as a budget build lol. People are delusional. $1500 is a premium pc. Crazy
@@dillonvillon Exactly
1500 with newest. Gen parts is a midrange build. Premium? You're looking at over 2K. As high as 3
You can do it for even less than that if you go used. (And you really should consider it for any item besides the hard drive.) Highest priced item by far is gonna be getting a modern graphics card, though you can also get an older generation card and still do an awful lot with it. It also heavily depends on what games you want to play. If you don't care to play the latest bloated-ass AAA Unreal Engine 5 slop, you can get away with even more. Hell, you may even get away with using one of AMD's APUs depending on your use case.
@@arnox4554 Absolutely
Digital Foundry has said that its closer to a 4070 due to a feature set that doesnt exist on AMD cards yet
4070 ti they said
The problem with everyone right now is they're all still guessing. We have the numbers Sony gave, but numbers on paper don't ever tell the entire story. Not to mention, it's going to be up to devs to actually program their games to take advantage of the PS5 Pro. I would bet my entire life that most studios will be lazy and put a basic toggle in the graphical settings that still just has a boost mode and performance mode, just like the base PS5 which will give an extra 10% performance over the base PS5.
@@TooBokoo I had to rewatch the clip but DF was talking about the feature set that’s more unique to nvidia
Definitely not 4070.
@@fugitive6549 it does
Actually you don't gain performance using GDDR on a CPU because of they way it is tuned/optimized for graphics which creates higher latencies when used with a CPU .... That's why you never see GDDR RAM sold by computer memory vendors ..... Believe me if they could just slap GDDR chips on a UDIMM and gain higher performance they would have done that long ago
Another thing you got wrong is the PS5 Pro has AI cores and will use AI upscaling ( PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution) like DLSS or XeSS although we can't say yet if Sony's AI upscaler will be as good as DLSS .... Frankly I think this is actually AMD's AI upscaling co-developed with Sony and will eventually be FSR4 and AMD is simply holding it back from PC users so Sony would have first crack at it. The reason I believe that is the 7000 series GPUs have the same AI cores but they are not currently being used. I suspect they won't be used until the next gen AMD GPUs are released and then AMD will also release FSR4 which will be an AI upscaler like DLSS
It isn't GDDR tho - parts of each chip are treated like CPU Cache, since the PS1 and Xbox.
You didnt factor in the cost of building it. The playstation comes assembled. And dont say no cost because you built it yourself (normies wont do that)
Also, forgot the controller, which is included. and let not mention that you need a keyboard and mouse to use the pc.
@@brian190 Costs even less with those if you don't go off buying the most fancy keyboard and mouse. And it takes an hour max to assemble a PC. If you buy from a PC vendor then they would likely build it free for you. Your argument is invalid
normies wouldn't do any of this anyway
Bruh, if you aren't willing to build your own PC (which is how it should be done) then you should just get a console at that point cause you seriously don't have the expertise to deal with a PC anyway. And You can get a decent MnK bundle for $30-$40 anyway.
I put together a list of parts for 838 euros, which includes a ryzen 5 5600, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 650 watt psu, and a 7800xt, just for the sake of doing it. the PS5 pro is SO much more expensive than it's worth!
If you're going to build a new system, I would highly suggest going to zen 4 CPUs. You'll get your money's worth with the upgradeability.
The PS5 Pro will have better performance than that build, especially in RT because of having RDNA 4 features (that's why they claim up to 3x RT performance over the base PS5).
Not to mention it won't have issues with shader compilation stutter etc.. because it has everything pre-compiled as a fixed platform device and programmed straight to the metal without having to go through DX12.
The last consoles I owned were PS3/Xbox 360, so don't think I'm just a console fanboy or something.
That build is not a small form factor and does not have WiFi 7, BT v5.4, a 2 TB NVME PCIe 5.0 (the fastest in the market), a wireless game controller, and PSSR.
I also put something together quickly and came up with 839.59€ (PS5 Pro 799.99€ with stand 829.98€):
AMD 3700X, ZEN2 8core like PS5 Pro
7800XT, RDNA3 60cu like PS5 Pro
graphics memory 16 GB 256 Bit GDDR6 624GB/s, ps5 pro 16GB 256 Bit GDDR6 576 GB/s (shared with CPU)
16Gb DDR4 ram
2tb ssd 7400MB/s read, 34% faster than the 5500MB/s of the PS5 (I didn't find any speed for the pro)
500W power supply
Wi-fi7 like PS5 pro
BT5.3, PS5 pro BT5.4
wireless game controller
if you add a Blury burner it becomes 903,64€ (PS5 Pro with Blury drive 919,98€, PS5 Pro with Blury drive and stand 949,99€)
I realize that nobody in their right mind would configure a PC like this.
and yes, PSSR is not included. if AI upscaling is important to you, you'll go for NVIDA on the PC, but that would mean having a graphics card that is less comparable to the PS5 Pro.
and yes, the PC is also larger 28.70l vs PS5 10.5l. but if you are willing to spend about 200€ more, you can also get the PC in 7.5l.
(shared with CPU)
😂😂😂 no its not
You have to add the monthly cost to play it and the premium on the games in the first place. This is where you mess up this video
Keep coping.
@hl236 keep paying for online access 😂
@@dnice42 I have a PC, was referring to adding the cost of using a PlayStation should be added to its final cost and that's how much you actually pay
Nope u dont have to pay
I'm laughing cause Jay just built my current setup, as soon as I've built my partners I'll be upgrading mine. What I find most funny is I asked my partner would he like me to still build him a pc or get a PS5 pro, he picked the pc without hesitation 😂
Same 😂
Wise decision.
Not being able to overclock your playstation is a good thing.
Imagine sitting in your apartment living room and suddenly the ps5 from your neighbour above burns through your ceiling and than through your floor in a complete meltdown.
A better comparison would be to see what you could do with a previous gen console equivalent, since one of the biggest bonuses of a pc is you don’t have to scrap the entire thing every year or 2.
You don't have to scrap the entire thing every year or 2 with consoles either...
Dude why are you talking like DDR4 3200 is too bad ???
Because DDR5 is better, like he said.
Im into fighting games and some games like smite and god of war etc. will this build be best for me?
I don't wanna over dpend cause i don't play shooters etc might get gta6
The utility you get from a PC surpasses the value offered by the PS5 Pro imo
Its also common for console games graphical settings to be custom/modified to relieve slight bits of performance here and there, rdr2 is a perfect example of that
I really think that the mentality of "Consoles vs PCs" has always been such a strange mentality for people to have. They serve different purposes, despite having an overlap in both offering a way to play games. For anyone who just wants something that they can plug and play (aside from setting up an account, now, I guess) and expect it to just work, without the relative complexities of Windows/Mac/Linux on top of whatever games services for a PC, and whatever potential tech support issues they may find with getting controllers/peripherals working on different games/services, and any of the other potential oddities that can come with PC gaming.
I love gaming on my PC, but I would never suggest PC gaming to the less tech savvy people in my life, because I know it would simply mean constant headaches for me for however long it took to get things working for them, and whenever anything went wrong. Meanwhile a console just works. Obviously on the other hand, if someone wants more than just a gaming machine, then they're already not going to be looking for a console.
Realistically, I think the PS5 pro is mostly going to be a very low-yield product, that is going to serve as a way to make the cost of the base model PS5 look less daunting by comparison for parents going to the store to buy Christmas presents, or people looking to get a PS5 so they can play the exclusive games/play online with their friends. The PS4 pro sold around 15% of the total PS4 sales, and it was a much bigger (or at least more significant) jump over the base model, at a smaller price jump (obviously at a very different economic time in the world as well). So I'm guessing Sony is expecting the PS5 pro to sell _less_ relative to the base PS5, which is why they've priced it higher, both to bring it closer to their cost (or even sell it at a profit) and to - as I previously mentioned - have it be the "big intimidating price" next to the (relatively) lower priced base model that will even be bundled with a game (or multiple) this holiday season.
Well said, no idea what happened to PC education in my country, but god damn some people refuse to touch settings on fear of breaking something.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 I don't even think it's that, it's more that there are older people, kids, and just people who don't necessarily care so much about getting tech savvy that want to be able to play games, and using PCs can seem entirely daunting to them, compared to the very curated console experience. It's also why mobile gaming is so popular, it has such a low barrier to entry.
These PC clowns always forget keyboard and mouse and WiFi and you have to pay someone to make the PC and 1 terabyte gone and no OS there. it's not one to one comparison at all. But but you pay for online I don't pay for online I play single player games and what was the most popular single player game this year black myth wukong on Steam LMAO. I'm going to enjoy GTA 6 2yr exclusive on the console. But but GTA 6 is going to be superior on PC, the only thing your superior at, is waiting lol.
"keyboard and mouse" you can get a decent set for like 40$ please LOL.
"WiFi" if you are justifying a 700$ console but can't afford wifi, that's on you.
"I play single player games" great ignore every online game except fortnite ig
Console gamers always forget to add the $499 that they already spent on the non-pro version. 😂
@@Viperveteran I am talking to the Mr clutter man. Come here let me whisper this to your ears..... You can sell stuff and get a massive discount when you buy something brand new WOW I teach you something new kiddo.
@@wsdfgesdfr5786 1 to 1 comparison am I speaking English to you. Do you know the meaning of one to one comparison it seems not. No assembly cost and you don't go cheap on keyboard and mouse because of input lag. At least the PlayStation 5 controller fixes all the input Lags. what's happening with the PC master race I thought these guys were smart🤣
@@funnystuttering4946 what input lag are you on about? You don't need a wireless mouse you consoleshagger, nor wireless keyboard. You do not want a 1to1 because PC destroys console in that sense, thats why we make broader comparisons, to make it more fair to consoles
didn't include a "high end" gamepad
... or HDMI cable.
bro's gamer sense and him like " they're after me" is hilarious, best part of the video
700 for a console is allot but all you proved here is that the pro is still a great deal overall. I don't think you proved what you thought you were going to prove
Not really.
The parts in this PC are old.
The Ps5 Pro is going to be similar in performance, Basically 700 dollars for a Console that is already struggling.
PS5 Pro is limited to only playing PS games, no browsing, no working on it, less games, lower framerates, lower resolution, is not upgradable. I think he proved all he needed to prove.
@@ThisisCitrus you can't even play Gran Turismo 7. Point not proven.
PS5 Pro comes with a 2TB SSD
Who cares. The fps is worth it for the pc.
Dont confuse them with facts, it destroys their narrative LOL!
@@leopoldbuttersstotch73 who cares, alot of people do, even pc guys.
And PS+ Subscription if you want to do something useful with it. If you add that, then Inland 120$ SSD fits the price just right.
You need to pay for online multiplayer on PS5. You can buy a 2TB SSD for 2 years worth of PSN Essential. But please be a good peasant and continue to pay for multiplayer and fucking cloud saves LOL.
PS5 Pro includes a controller. At the very least, you should include a keyboard and mouse with a comparison build. Otherwise you should subtract the value of the controller ($40-80) from the PS5 Pro cost for your comparison.
The idea of “you can get a PC for that” is for someone who doesn’t have any of the stuff for a PC and who will use a TV as a monitor.
That's peanuts, when you start looking at higher prices closer to a thousand dollars 40-80 dollars is like 4 to 8 cents on a dollar.
If you went 750 dollars on gaming PC that can do the same as a 700 dollar console for gaming, and can do lots of other stuff - I'll spend the 50 extra dollars for the better deal.
If the PS5 pro was like 450 dollars and the PC comparison was 700+ then you have an argument.
You really want to talk about the price of a PS5 controller which is going to last 6 months on average?
Then factor in 3-5 years of online play if you want to get technical. Free on pc. About $80 a year for a console.
That’s a whole extra tier or two higher on the gpu side of things depending on new vs used.
@@RiceCubeTech This is a hardware comparison, not software. So technically, no, there shouldn't be any inclusion of online subscriptions.
@@fafnirchaos0711 If you prefer a PC, then it's probably worth the extra cost.
This comparison is focused on the hardware and ignores all the pros and cons of each platform beyond the cost of the hardware. There is value in choosing a PC over a console if that's what you prefer to play on.
11% of the total cost isn't "peanuts." You can get a keyboard and mouse for less than the cost of a PS5 controller, but it will put you further over that $700 price of the PS5 Pro for the PC.
The $700 stretch video that isn't $700 to most people is its own genre now, thanks Mark Sony
For the people out there thinking about switching to PC - don't. It's not worth it. Not unless you're going for a high-end build. I fell for all the PC propaganda bs (power, aesthetics etc) and basically wasted a ton of money on a R7 7700/4070TI build, and it can't even run TLOU at native 4k while mainting a stable 30fps at max settings. I have to resort to DLSS just to achieve 60. Meanwhile, the PS5 Pro runs it at native 4k 60fps for under half the money. In terms of price to performance, PC gaming is straight up garbage compared to consoles. It's only worth it if you have a high-end 80 or 90 series GPU and plan on gaming on a 2k or 4k monitor. Other than that, it's just a money sink and a way to stroke your ego. Not to mention no physical game collection, no reselling games you've finished or trading with friends and family, no couch co-op, and the multiplayer is filled with scum of the earth cheating f*cks.
First sensible comment I’ve read. Nailed it.
There’s a reason all these nerds go on about tweaks and overclocking… their machines can’t handle it. And yes, a true ‘team pc’ guy should have a 4k monitor @ 40”. Most don’t as they’re full of 💩 It’s a money pit.
I say that with confidence as I own a PS5 and a 4090 pc on a 42” 4k Predator monitor. Its awesome, but it’s not as much insta fun as the console
Your right
The cope is so bad just say you built a bucket and didn't know what you were doing at all 😂😂 if you can't run TLOU on 4070 then I don't know what to say, A either you got a bad card or B something was bad in your build, and gaming on pc will always be better then a console it's unlimited on what you can do on a pc, these sony fan boys truly are nuts.
@@Allious131Or wanna know the truth? Bro probably made it up lol
@@Oof_2nd He did I know he did
No you still cheated Jay!!! 3060TI was refurbished!
that's a smart shopper not everything has to be new
@@DeadPiixxel then get used console what will be 2x cheaper than new
You might as well buy "used" Pro from your dad with 10$.
For accurate comparisonen the PC parts need to be new. The case needs to be same size or smaller than PS5 Pro. It needs to have OS. It also needs to have 60$ imput device.
Please SPREAD THE MESSAGE!!
NO ONE BUY THIS. TEACH SONY A LESSON!!
We are not idiots!
And i bet there will still be some PS5 "Pro" games running at only 30fps! Dumb Devs would rather use these extra resources for improved ray tracing
PC FTW
You can't add FPS using old CPU. No matter how low you set the graphics quality.
PS5 Pro price is not a big problem, the problem comes with expensive and bad PS Plus subscriptions, expensive games, controllers drift, etc... Throwing money never ends...
I disagree. I think the price is a big problem. A similarly priced PC will give you access to thousands more games, not need for a subscription, modding...if you want to charge the same price as a PC, and offer less, then it is a big problem.
PS5 Pro price is outrageous lol 😅
Pc also has much cheaper and *better* vr headsets and games
I dont get what it is with people and complaining about overpriced games.
For my xbox one, i bought farcry 5 for like 12$. And I was able to load the disc on my xbsx for free.
And, once i'm tired of any game, i can resell it.
Go ahead, try and sell your Steam game 😮
Any new game is expensive, on all platforms.
I ow a pc too. And I prefer playing on it. But i dont have to upgrade my xbox once any new AAA game comes out.
You literally can't compare the two.
@pippifpv Yeah Xbox has valid deals, but psn doesn't
You didnt even build a PC that is even remotely comparable to the PS5 Pro. You LITERALLY Built a PC that is comparable to the REGULAR PS5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He built a PC that is comparable in PRICE to the PS5 pro. And then he showed benchmarks.
That was the fastest ''get to the store, buy all needed parts and build it at home'' ever !
Sony Police was funny :D
The first problem is, I’m sure 98% of Pro buyers are going to be people who owned a PS5. They would get a couple hundred towards the purchase which is great.
BUT, there’s tons of people similar to my situation. You built a 12th gen computer or any AMD PC for a minimum of $800-1000 and the next 5 years you only need to replace the GPU. Your keyboard and mouse last a very very long time as there are no stick drift issues and you can spend nothing for them.
The biggest joke is the nonsense 8k advertisement on the ps5 box and yet PS5 pro is for 4k 60 at full detail. Sony should have been sued for false advertisement.