MESHUGGAH - Bleed (REACTION!!!)
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hahaha...."is it more than one drummer" That's the biggest compliment any drummer can get! but yup, that's meshuggah!
Put that quote on the cover next to "This shit makes Slayer look like Taylor Swift" and you have the highest recommended extreme metal album of the year.
I am honored Sirs. Much love from down under. You guys are funny as fuck and I love watching your reactions. Especially when the community picks songs that you can't help but enjoy instead of ones they know will put you off.
Hussam J the guys have no idea. Lol
hahahahaha for real tho.
Yeah, try that shit with a beatpad. Brilliance always confounds the simple.
You recognized the drums and level of difficulty. You passed
thing is they think the bass and the guitar are the drums too
yeah they done fucked up
Tbf meshuggah has a bad ass bassist too.
Also the guitarists are using all kinds of cool palm muting techniques so I see where they’re coming from.
@Smokey I think he was referring to the fact that the bass drum follows the guitar, playing in an odd time signature, while doing 4/4 snare, hi-hat, and cymbal work. It sounds like 2 drummers because it is essentially 2 time signatures being overlapped.
This song is all about leg day.
Fairdinkum aye
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Timmy...Timmy! Uh uhg arrrrgauh LIPLA TIMMY KAA!
Haha for the drummer totally!
f a c t s
"Is this heavy?? Let us know in the comments."
The heaviest.
Yes
No. Beatles is heavier.
@@fatboymachinegun no nickelback
@@fatboymachinegun Dire Straits and Eric Clapton is WAY MORE HEAVY
"-Meshuggah makes Slayer sound like Taylor Swift" - commentary of the year
A ridiculous thing to say. Meshuggah is ok but c'mon son.
bobthemuffin slayer is fucking boring
Slayer's fucking iconic, and completely awesome, but compared to Meshuggah's aggression, Slayer is meek. So yea, it's pretty accurate. I've seen Slayer and Meshuggah live, I came out of the Meshuggah concert with a bleeding forehead from the pit.
Great comment! To me personally, Meshuggah is pretty boring though. The repetitive palm muting along with the bass drum and 'most-often' absence of guitar solos gets boring quick. I do like the polyrhythm thing the drummer does though. Slayer in the hey day were an awesome metal band with some variation.
I like Thorendahl's solo album more than any Meshuggah stuff.
Definately don't agree when you have songs like Disciple from Slayer.
Rule of metal: There's always something heavier.
Zach bmop there's always a bigger fish
I think that Bleed could actually be considered to be rock bottom of heaviness. Of cause you could argue that some BDSM Stuff is heavier, but Bleed is just a special kind of in your face
until you reach meshuggah
Keep in mind that heaviness is a pretty subjective term, so it really depends what you are used to.
TheEnizeo I️ find shit like Cryptopsy and Pig Destroyer much heavier. Not to say meshuggah isn’t heavy tho.
"That drummer is....(no words)"
Yes. Exactly.
“Is there more than one drummer?” “It sounds like two different drummers” Awesome comments!
The reason you are hearing it as 2 drummers is because Tomas Haake (the Drummer) is playing a syncopated poly-rhythm.
1. High hat playing constant quarter notes. (1, 2, 3, 4|1, 2, 3, 4 etc)
2. Snare playing on the 3rd note of the note of the High Hat ( 0, 0, 1, 0| 0, 0, 1, 0 etc) with all other notes played softly.
3. His kick pattern is a complex groove. Put simply its a pattern of 2 32nd notes and 2 16th notes. That means every time the hit hat is hit once he plays 4 hits on the bass drum. (LR L R, LR L R, LR L R, LR L R| LR L R, LR L R, LR L R, LR L R etc) and throws in an extra seemingly random 32nd note in the pattern to give it that rolling feeling.
The guitar are following his legs playing a second level of poly-rhythm over it.
The Lead Guitar's solo section is a rhythmically displace solo. Meaning his 1 repeating cycle does not match with drums or the bass and rhythm guiter. So each bar it lines up with a different number moving from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 then back to 1 after 5 bars.
All of this craziness (not even their most complex song check out Clockworks) and you can still headbang to it. Simply amazing band!
That specific kind of pattern he is playing on the bass is called a "Herta." Additionally, it should be written as LRL R. That better describes how it is being played.
I have no fucking idea what you just said. All I know is Thomas Haake isn't actually a human.
what a cool comment
The kick patterns change, the first is... well, it's not just that, the rhythm figure plays 43 times across the whole phrase (8 bars I think), for the first minute or so, then it changes into a figure which is 5 notes long, then another, then another.. it's never consistent and they're all different lengths. Quite amazing!
Thats not a polyrhytm, its strictly 4/4.
"Is there two drummers?" haha best compliment a drummer can get
Messhuggah is an acquired taste even for metalheads. Y'all got thrown into the deep end with this one.
Britton Stanaland
Acquired taste indeed. It took me a minute to get used to OPETH for example back in their heaviest days but the pure songwriting genius of Mikael and the best drummer in the world Martin Lopez at the time among other things, got me hooked deep. Never could get into this screaming, jerky non melodic Mashugga type metal... So what Im trying to say again, do Opeth :D
I disagree. depends on what you mean by metal I guess.
Meshuggah....mainstream....dude....c'mon....no where close to mainstream.
Matthew Jones mainstream in a sense of use.. the name Meshuggah is also a setting on various Amps.
That is so true. I love Meshuggah, but then again I'm into weird shit like that. But you are right that it's an acquired taste.
I've never understood why so many people recommend this song to people just getting into metal. It's ridiculous. Meshuggah actually has quite a few tracks that are extremely groove oriented and more accessible. They are heavier so it's an acquired taste but to start off with Bleed is bad because it may turn you off to some of their other offerings which are quite fantastic.
A B yea I had Bleed recommended to me first. I listened and couldn’t get into it and went a long time before giving them another chance. Then I heard Do Not Look Down and Demiurge, and gradually worked into their other stuff. Now I love them
It's like with Joy Division and "Colony". A few would have liked it as the first song by the band
Totally agree. Even when I was a huge thrash head, I dismissed this song initially. I got into Obzen and started listening to them a bit more and eventually came around to this song, now to me they're on another level musically.
I normally request Rational Gaze to people that haven't ever heard them before. It's what got me hooked on them.
Yeah I totally agree as well. I think Destroy Erase Improve is a good album to start with. Beneath would work. Soul Burn is almost completely groove oriented. I think people just like seeing the shock value and then feeling cool because they like the song.
Sweden is one of the main countries when it comes to extreme metal! Non-metalheads dont know this about sweden, but if you're a metalhead thats the first thing u think about when u hear sweden! 🇸🇪
Don't forget Norway. He'll, all of Scandinavia, really.
YOU CAN'T GO FROM METALLICA MEGADETH BLACK SABBATH TRIVIUM STRAIGHT TO FUCKING MESHUGGAH LMAO
Thank you!
Exactly my thoughts !
should've eased them in with something like TesseracT or Skyharbor first. >.
At least they have something to compare Lars to now!
They did Gojira before this.
All i can hear is Bill Burr "Purrta purrta purrta purrta"
SAME!
🤘🏻 hysterical. Thought the same.
You just made my day, Bill burr is awesome
haha now im hearing it too 😁
Bill's description of Meshuggah was so spot on
I love how at 6:28 he accidentally realised the meaning of the song 😂
6:23 : - 6:29 : The song's literally about having an aneurysm. You nailed it and didn't even know it.
HA! Holy shit the madmen actually did it XD "This shit makes Slayer sound like Taylor Swift" was an appropriate reaction :D
Best quote from this video, lol. Will everyone please take the hint now and stop recommending these extreme metal bands? Yes I personally like Meshuggah, but they're right - you guys knew damn well they weren't gonna be into this. Enough already.
metfan4l ...I had been requesting then to play Meshuggah for weeks. A bit too heavy for their taste but love their opinions. 🤘🤘
Skinny Buddha this song, particularly. This song was, admittedly, my introduction to Meshuggah but I loved it and soon bought obZen.
That being said, I wasn't crazy about the entire album and found out that for me, alot more of their earlier catalogue is more listenable. I think these guys would've possibly liked something like Humiliative.
I'd love to see some more interesting rock sounds not just metal. queens of the stone age or death from above 1979. Or hell if the metal keeps coming lets see some 3 inches of blood
metfan4l lol and 'sensory overload' was a good description too.
Maybe they should've started with a "less heavy" Meshugguh song. The blood metaphors were just, to strong in this one haha
As a metal head, love watching these my dudes - keep it up!
A wild Indiemaus.
INDEIMAUS
INDEIMAUS I LOVE YOUR DARK SOULS VIDEOS
Introduce the Egg to Metal
Totally agree man! Also, stoked to see your God of War stuff soon:)
As both a fan of metal and rap, I love these reactions and love seeing y’all push your boundaries. Y’all are able to find the good in anything, even what you don’t love, and thats dope.
Nate C. Concerts, well said!
As a 40 year old Mom, I began raising my two children (ages 16 and 12) on Meshuggah about 10 years ago. When my son was 8 years old he said listening to Meshuggah’s music was like “trying to figure out a Math problem.” I think “Shed” and “Mind’s Mirrors/In Death is Death” are our favorite songs (from their Catch 33 album).
Respect mommy!
Why?
Dude respect to you! Wish you were my mom and respect on the catch 33 shout out! Love mind's mirrors/ in death is death
Catch 33 is an incredible album
Metal is like lullabies for nordic babies ;) (K.I.N.G by Satyricon)
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Tomas Haake is a phenomenal drummer.
Pip Stanton has a metal god
And he's super consistent live as well, barely misses a beat.
“Bleed” is actually one of the most complex progressive metal songs to play on the drums. There is only one drummer in Meshuggah, and his name is Tomas Haake. He is the one who writes most of their lyrics as well.
Fun fact: the song was so difficult to play for Haake that they considered leaving it out of the album at one point.
Yeah honestly the triple kick drum separated by the single kick is fucking stupidly hard to play while holding the rhythm of the crash. Am a self considered professional drummer and I am struggling to follow along while air drumming lol
Good luck man...
Charles Thompson Different strokes for different folks.
However, there is no denying that the drums on this track are considered to be one of the most difficult in metal, and it has become sort of a benchmark for drummers to be able to play this. There is a lot going on besides just the bass drum; maybe if you listen to a decent audio of it you’ll be able to hear it. Cheers.
This might help:
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Charles Thompson Rock on, brother. There is no need to be anal about anything in life, especially something so subjective as music.
P.S. Planetary Duality is an incredible album and one of my favorites. Great taste!
That comment about Sweden was so funny... most of the darkest, meanest metal has come from Norway and Sweden....
If you look up a map of "Most metal bands per capita" Sweden and Finland blows everyone else out of the water :D
Norway, Sweden, Finland. It's all about the woods and dist pedals
@Sammy G49 Rest in peace to Alexi Laiho
Meshuggah is perfect for working out.
Tomas Haake practiced this one song for six months before recording it. The double pedal goes in unison with the guitar's alternate picking, in a different time signature from the hi-hat and snare, which is why it might sound like it's two drummers.
Alie Schabel Just for that comment i'll subscribe to u
Alie Schabel yeah that's how I always do it 🤐
I mean, it is the same time signature.
NOP.
Yeah the entire song is 4/4 no time change.
The kicks follow 12/8 and accents a shuffle beat. That’s just the first riff incarnation.
they are not ready for all the death metal and black metal and all that hardcore sub genres of metal, so plz stop asking for it in the comment section.
There are some tracks by some heavy bands that would probably get good reactions....the more dynamic ones that don't get too crazy or have too much cookie monster vocals. But I agree overall, getting them to listen to Meshuggah and other comparably heavy bands is just throwing them way too far into the deep end.
I like Meshuggah and i agree dude.. they are not ready for this type of metal
I think this is a little bit too full on for now. I'd recommend Mastodon, Devin Townsend Project, Ghost, Blind Guardian.
No. They're free thinkers, so it comes with the territory.
I give them loads of credit for giving it a fair chance, but yeah I'm not surprised by this reaction at all. Maybe now people will stop... Nope, they're still suggesting extreme metal. Smh.
I have watched your reactions for a while now, and I cant tell you how happy it makes me to see you acknowledging thomas haake as one of the best drummers youve heard. He truly is one of the best in the world. Props guys.
I can get behind your channel. You guys appreciate music for what it is. You don't have a bias and actually have an understanding of what music is. Props to yall.
Fun fact, the song was originally called Aneurysm but they changed the name in the end to Bleed. The drummer, Thomas Haake had to practice twice as long for this song than for the entirety of the album, taking him 6 months of full on practice to be even able to play it.
i came here to post this... Salute you man!
I was toing to write the same xD
cheers dude! lml,
"This makes Slayer sound like Taylor Swift"
Hahahahaha
Nah slayer still sounds slayer. This makes Taylor Swift Sound like Taylor Swift
@@deaf3326 Well that attitude of yours is not exactly gonna make any partys either lol.
Just pointing out that two bands of different genres and time periods is heavy in different ways. Also for me, heavyness is not the same as extreme/brutal.
@@user-hu3iy9gz5j Stfu and take a joke smartass
@@jewel_throne2950 Ok I take the joke, but only if you take mine. Haha, funny.
Anaal Natrakh makes Meshuggah sound like....
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Recently found this channel, and I really dig your open mindedness and ability to give credit where it's due, regardless of whether you like the song or not. If only more people acted this way.
Love U guys, always a sweet moment to watch your videos. Always fun!
The song actually is about having an aneurysm and how it's killing you. Aneurysm was its original title too
[TPA] X I'd love to know where you found that out. I always thought they made it because one of them had an accident in a meat grinder...
www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/meshuggah_what_inspired_bleed__why_its_our_most_difficult_song_to_perform_live.html
Cool, I appreciate that thanks! I mean... this song would be hard for anyone, not just Thomas...it's an event, and when you see them play it live, they all change like "OK, we have to play THIS song now"...lol.
It's nice to know that this song isn't about sacrificing pigs or people to Molech, but it's so good that I don't even care.
They have "Spasm" as well, about epileptic seizures.
the first time i heard meshuggah i was not ready for it
Prashanna Gautam I had a heart attack
I was out running when I first listened to them. That was an intense fucking run.
No one was...
I heard in the backround somewhere and i wanted to listen to it so i found it later.
I no longer have a functional garage door
First Name, Last Name gold!
I love your channel! I'm from the same town as most of the members of Meshuggah, and have seen and also met them several times. They are such nice people :) I can sympathize with thinking this is too much, as it was what I thought when I heard it the first time. It's crazy to see them live, considering their age and the complexity of their songs.
What I like most about your channel is that you're able to listen to songs of any genre and reacting honestly regardless. That's something I still don't think I can do even though I try to listen to all genres.
Thank you for spreading positivity!
I love the fact you guys show respect and understanding to this kind of music. It is very interesting to see your analysis and view on this :)
Tomas Haake is the only drummer I know that'll take 2 guitars, a bass and a vocalist, and turn them into a 2nd drum set. Everything is done rhythmically for the purpose of percussion presence.
Luis Chollet He is a monstrous drummer. His footwork has completely changed my approach to drumming.
They stopped before the breakdown. They stopped. Before. The breakdown.
Curtis Marta the audio is from the video. Which doesn’t have the breakdown.
I know!! 😭
Curtis Marta yeah missed an awesome part
They were pretending they thought it was over so they can get back to the most requested, trendiest tracks of all genres!
You know you're in the wrong genre of metal when it has a goddamn ''breakdown''
I love watching your videos but I really love coming back to this one. So glad you guys have Meshuggah a shot! Please react to another one!!!
watching yall react to one of my fav bands is straight up priceless. thank you! do more meshuggah!!!!!!!! LOVE YALL
Dude these guys are cool as hell.
Johnwaynelsd25 I watched these guys enjoy Tool for the first time ... classic luvem
I recently discovered them myself.... definitely would buy them a beer
I love that you don't think of Sweden when you hear extreme metal, because Sweden has some of the most influential extreme metal bands ever.
We stand corrected!
If it wasn't for At The Gates, there would be NO Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Unearth, All That Remains and so so so many more bands. The NWOAHM wouldn't have been so big if it were not for ATG's Slaughter Of The Soul. A genre defining, timeless, perfect album that needs to a staple in any metal heads record collection.
Also definitely not happiness, Scandinavians are as suicidal Japanese businessmen.
Opeth, Meshuggah and At the Gates!
7heSlime I️ see this and my mind immediately goes to At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul.
I love your channel u guys got me rollin
Can't show enough love...you guys are ridiculously awesome
Scandinavians put out some of the most brutal metal on the face of the planet
Well... Generally it's people from Norway, Sweden and Finland. Danes aren't that good on the metal scene, but if you want to hear some of the only great metal bands from denmark (in my opinion) you should listen to Baest :)
BurningRabbit666 ... "the arcane order" is a metal band from denmark and freaking awesome !
Mercenary is probably the best metal band from Denmark (their older stuff when their vocalist was Mikkel Sandager) It's not brutal by any means, just really good metal.
Also, their vocalist and and his brother are currently making new music under the highly anticipated band 'Firesoul', they got 21 tracks recorded already so there should be an album out soon.
I have high hopes, be on the lookout out for them!
If you were trapped indoors for six months of Winter every year you'd come up with some crazy metal shit also.
SoloriderTV I'm Scandinavian, so yeah.. I know xD
It's one drummer, Thomas Haake. He apparently had to re-teach himself how to drum for three months just to be able to play this song.
You guys are brave for diving into Meshuggah, love this bank and love your channel
The drummer had to actually change basically the entire way he played the drums in order to play this live.
How?
Yeah, I think I remember him saying once that it took him six months to get it down. Insane.
I like my metal like my coffee. Black with a little bit of Meshuggah.
TheEriche hahahahaha yes
That’s what I call my girlfriend. She’s meshuggah.
TheEriche lololol
TheEriche black with a little bit of shuggah
I thought you were going to say strong and bitter
Bill Burr explained it pretty accurately about the drummer playing one tempo for his hands and a different for his feet. And there is drum cam footage of him playing this song live.
I watched him was one of the most detailed explanation.. respect
Brrta brrrrta brrrrta
Hilarious! Awesome of you guys keeping open minds!
This is HEAVY!!! Love you guys 🤟🤣
Obzen is one of the greatest metal albums of all time, in my opinion. However, I get that this is not exactly for everyone. Meshuggah is not a band you can just jump into. Meshuggah is egg-head, nerdy technical metal taken to its logical conclusion. Meshuggah is about hypnotic drone, interlocking layers of complexity and perfectly engineered precision. The me, listening to Meshuggah is like listening to a band set out an extremely complicated calculus problem and then attempt to solve it. Meshuggah is about finding where violence accelerates to such an absurd pace that things blur and merge. The cumulative effect of listening to the album is meditative and weirdly relaxing. You either get this and appreciate what the band is trying to do or it sounds like noise to you. Either response is completely valid.
I can't agree more with this album being meditative. Hit the nail right on the head.
This. This. This.
hiro111 you sound like the Rick and Morty fans
Amen.
hiro111 agreed and on your side on this one but it takes practice to get what their doing and dive into it. I think it is a trait of the hard rock hm listeners to insist on music that does not immediately sound appealing but once understood gets very addictive and revealing
Sweden, contrary to what you might think, is the birthplace and home of many types of extreme metal, most notably Melodic Death Metal. Scandinavia in general is known for its cultivation of several unique types of metal, like Norway and Black Metal.
Alessandro Benadia an some great early death metal. Buzzzzzzzsaaaaaaw guitaaaars
Early Swedish melo death is better than sex
Oh yeah!
¡You are amazing guys! Love your videos. Hail Metal!
You guys are hilarious and seem fun to hang with. You gotta hear the full version of the song with the epic solo - that's the best part!
Listening to Meshuggah requires rewiring your brain to listen in a completely new way. Here's a game I invented that makes listening to them an engaging experience:
1. Find the basic 4/4 beat in the drums
2. Once you have that locked in, try to figure out the rhythmic pattern(s) of the guitars and kick drum and how they interweave with and break down the 4/4 beat.
2. is a real intellectual challenge and you soon realize how pedestrian most music is rhythmically by comparison. Long before "djent" was a thing, most called Meshuggah "Math Metal," and I think that's a better term. They're a band of Terminators with superhuman instrumental ability writing the soundtrack for the Skynet-induced apocalypse. Us mere mortals aren't worthy.
Bleed is legendary because of the drumming. Probably the most ridiculously impossible drum track ever; the kick drum part will set fire to your calves within a few seconds, provided you can get the insanely tricky 32nd note pattern started at all. Then Haake adds complex changes and varied rhythms in the hands on top of it. It's godlike.
One of the most educated comments I ever read on YT! Nice one bro!
Mr. Metalhorse Meshuggah are complex and good. I don’t understand the people talking about staying with “groove metal.” The main sequence of this song has a fucking killer groove.
Meshuggah explores musical territory in a way that a free form jazz player would. Lots of odd time sigs and sequences that are dissonant.
I don’t understand what the complaint is. They fucking rule, and have since 95.
They’re a classic metal band with just as much respect in the metal community as any of he big 4. Robert Trujillo drops them all the time.
Music is "about" whatever artists and listeners want it to be about. Music involves fundamental elements like instrumentation, rhythm, harmony, and melody, and artists/listeners can choose to focus on any of these elements and ignore others. Meshuggah are unique in their rhythmic complexity, and listeners can either enjoy/appreciate it or not depending on their tastes. As an amateur musician who can fake my way through some basic drumming (and guitar and piano), I'm fascinated by what they do. It gives my brain a work out in a way that very little music does.
Paul Stout is absolutely right about Meshuggah having killer groove, but actually Meshuggah doesn't utilize many odd time signatures. In fact, most all of their songs are in 4/4. Their genius is in how they take odd-length guitar/drum phrases and loop them around the basic 4/4 groove. If you take a 7/8 riff (eg), it will "finish" an eighth-note earlier than the 4/4 beat and will "begin again" on the final 4/4 beat, and won't "line up" again (so its first beat is the first beat of the 4/4) for several bars. It gives the music the impression that it's constantly shifting/evolving because no two bars are quite the same since the beats keep falling in different places until the "loop" is complete.
I also think Meshuggah is better appreciated if one listens to them chronologically. Contradictions Collapse is basically just highly technical thrash, almost could've been the proper follow-up to Metallica's ...And Justice for All. Destroy Erase Improve is the big leap forward, much more technically/rhythmically complex, but still with a lot of thrash grooves. By Chaosphere their transformation into "Meshuggah" (as we know them) is complete. Nothing showed they could do the same thing at slow, sludgy tempos, and Catch-33 showed them capable of expanding their style to a single composition and incorporating various experimental touches. All their albums since have just been variations on the style they developed on Chaosphere, Nothing, and Catch-33.
Mr. Metalhorse I'm treating music as it is and finding things to appreciate about what it is. Meshuggah is rhythmically complex; I can appreciate that. The Beatles are rhythmically simple and harmonically/melodically pleasing; I can appreciate that. Bob Dylan is rhythmically simple, melodically/harmonically neutral, but dude can make the lyrics MEAN something by how he plays/sings; I can appreciate that. Point is that I don't "treat music" as if it was any one thing. I try to find what's unique about artists and then see if I can appreciate that quality. The ones I appreciate the most are often those that are the most unique, because they do something that I can't find in other artists. Meshuggah qualifies.
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell! Groove Metal!
AmericanGamer21 i agree... Or cemetery gates
Actually Revolution is my Name is probably the grooviest lol
You guys are awesome! Hah. I love getting a respectful perspective from a different culture. Your commentary is super valid and genuine. You guys clearly know your shit too. Real recognize real.
When you guys are finally giving in to the insanity of the drumming and it's just too crazy to describe. Perfect.
Sweden produces some of the best metal, because metal *is* happiness ;)
I agree ;)
They really do!
We sure do! We and our neighbor Finland 🤘🤘
Opeth - Harlequin Forest! An eye-opener with something for everyone, beautiful song!
Much love and respect!!!!
This would be a very good song to see a reaction to. Another very talented and diverse band, and this song demonstrates all they do.
Agreed and seconded
Go for it! Opeth time boys! this song or "Master's Apprentices" would be definitely appropiate
No, not Master's Apprentices. Something with more for them to dig on. Master's Apprentices is one of their heaviest songs. Be realistic.
Harlequin Forest would be perfect as an entry for them
You got it. 2 kick drums. 2 feet. 1 human octopus named Tomas Haake
Shout out to the "free thinkers!" You two rock and thank you for being receptive to all the genres! I'd like to buy drinks next time I am in Vegas.
You gotta see them live guys haha I've spartan someone in the mosh pit. Satisfying 😂
Thomas Haake, the (only) drummer for Meshuggah, had this to say about Bleed in specific: "It’s the most intricate drum part work I’ve ever done,” he confirms. “It has some sick double bass stuff. It took a lot of practicing, and I had to change my whole style of playing double bass drums. Usually if the song is fast, I play them really hard and go for it, but this is too intricate, with fast little bursts. I had to lay back on the amount of force I put into the strokes and play on a softer level to make the strokes more even, although the second one is usually a lot harder than the first one.
“One aspect of ‘Bleed’ is just being able to play the main pattern that opens up the song, which is the most important part. As the song goes on, that pattern is cut into different segments and taken to the very extremes, not just as far as how much you can learn and play, but put into your head. There’s underlying patterns that go very long. The challenge of learning that song would be equal to learning all the rest of the songs on the album combined, pretty much. I started rehearsing that in November [of 2006], recorded it in May, and still didn’t really have it down. Even in the recording phase, I could only do it part by part: I didn’t record the whole song through over and over, but instead recorded the first part ten times, the second part ten times, etcetera, so I had a lot of good takes for each part. It’s not until now that I can play the whole song through.”
The drums are so intricate in this song that the guy who wrote the parts took almost a year to be able to actually play it all the way through. That's some serious dedication
And, while I love Meshuggah, have seen them live, and consider Bleed one of their finest songs, this is way too extreme to introduce out of nowhere to people just beginning to dive into the deep pool of the metal world. I mean, even later-albums Death would have been a better suggestion - more melodic, equally complex, same intensity and depth to the lyrics, but less... let's say, less "BALLS OUT CRUSH YOU INTO OBLIVION OUR MUSIC IS A HAMMER AND YOUR EARS ARE OUR ANVIL", you know? I'd say Death's "The Philosopher" would have been a much more appropriate song to introduce people to extreme metal in general. But hey, these guys are awesome and respected the batshit insanity that is Bleed, even if they didn't care for it (and I can't blame them, extreme metal is very much an acquired taste), so that was cool as hell.
Ted Pertzborn well explained.
Great post, Ted. I agree about Death making a better intro to extreme metal, but they have so many great songs that it's tough to narrow it down. I really love Spirit Crusher for its dynamics, but The Philosopher and Crystal Mountain would be good recs as well.
Individual. Fucking. Thought. Patterns. That album is what truly sold me on how fantastic Death is.
I lean towards The Sound of Perseverance being their best, but there are no bad choices among their last four albums--masterpieces all.
Their record label made a "BLEED drumming contest" in which people sent in videos of themselves playing the song. Plenty of people learned to play the song perfectly in less than a month.
It took the drummer six months to learn this song.
god raper to learn probably, I heard they write their songs based on math patterns and he had to learn to play the pattern
It took 5 sec for the song to land in my ( FAVORITE SONGS) list
Maybe it took him 6 months to be satisfied with his playing of it
mafoota
The Herta patterns
This is the only song Haake has to use a trigger for.
Y’all are like long lost brothers, love your vids.. original
Awesome! You guys rock!
No hate guys, even the metal community can't agree on this band. Personally, I love them, but you get three metalheads and you'll likely have one that loves them, one that hates them and one that doesn't know them. This is definitely something that you don't jump into and everybody requesting a Meshuggah reaction should know better. Keep up the great work guys.
I think you nailed it there. I've been listening to metal for a long time and while I appreciate the technical proficiency here, I find this song boring after the first minute. I've got a couple of their albums but it's difficult to listen to more than one track because of the way they play their material. Just my opinion, I know metalheads who really like Meshuggah but to me it's like having a dog bark in your face all day.
"like having a dog bark in your face all day"
DONE. I AM DONE. I love it.
VERY much agree strictlymetal \m/. I have various subgenres in my Metal collection, and I love the mathematically complex, extremes and the VERY melodic and more. There are just a few (3?) subgenres I don't care for, but I love variety. And there is ALWAYS something new, or bands that fell through the cracks, and the obscure to find. But certain Metal bands are not for everyone - I guess if you can get into them, thats what makes them special.
Definitely. This song is too much to take in for, no offense, "beginners". You should go back to earlier meshuggah albums to try and appreciate their music. A must listen in my opinion is "Future breed machine" of the album destroy erase improve. And yes indeed, this band is plain and simple killer Live...
strictlymetal I love that they can find a positive thing to say about everything, even a song they don't care for.
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition. 🤘🔥🤘
Jarrod Sanders YES!
Yes, they will have to listen to some golden era Opeth eventually.
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This is some quality content. I love the commentary lol. I really want to see you guys do Her Ghost In the Fog by Cradle of Filth. Pure lyrical genius.
I appreciate your honesty, guys. If you get a chance, please consider seeing them live. It's amazing. \m/
Lamb of God - Grace, Omerta, Ruin, Walk with me in hell, 512, Embers, Vigil, Laid to Rest, Ghost Walking.....
Lamb of God is just one of those bands with hit after hit in your face tracks. Very distinct sound to them, the vocals while being screamed, are audible most of the time ( in my opinion ). You just cant go wrong with this band!
Yup!!!
Considering how much they liked Gojira, Lamb of God would be a good choice. Melodic, plenty heavy, and compared to Meshuggah relatively accessible. I like that Omerta track a lot too.
I agree they need to do some Lamb of God . The Faded Line is also a good track for them to do.
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition or Opeth - Deliverance. You need to get these sweet Swedish sound waves in you!
Love these guys. Been a fan of Meshuggah since 1997. Very talented band. The drummer Tomas Haake is so awesome.
Oh shhhhhh... I spoke too soon. This is gonna be good. Already a thumbs up. Let' s do this.
don't steal meshuggah, i need it for my coffee
Jonathan Gallup indeed! Don’t steal ma sugar lol
I LAUGHED SO HARD
mecoffee
Love your comments here. But I am a fan.
Gold
their drummer is actually a cyborg sent back from the future to show the people what real metal is.
Metal head here loving what you guys do. DRUMMING GOD ON THIS ONE.
You guys are so open minded. It's great. I'm glad I'm not the only one who can listen to rap, then country, then metal in a row. Keep it up.
Judith by A Perfect Circle
I think you guys would enjoy this song on both a lyrical and musical perspective.
unholymigit basically anything by Maynard. The dude is a genius.
When I was a teenager in the 80's I thought there would never be anything heavier than Slayer. ...wrong.
Pantera?
Omg 🖤 this band... i knew that was going to be the reation from these two love it !!!
As you can probably tell from Devin Townsend being in my picture I’m very into this stuff
I just discovered this channel, but between this, and the gojira reactions it’s quickly becoming one of my favorite things on UA-cam.
I would love to hear you guys take on the more approachable songs by meshuggah, like “Shed”
The drummer also has several play through videos that are absolutely ridiculous, because as you guys have stated, he really is an anomaly.
The thickness of the sound can be attributed to the 8 string guitars, bass, and one drummer.
Good choice djentalmen
I see what you did there! LOL
Never use a djent pun when referring to Meshuggah
Louie Sutherland you realise meshugga invented djent.
Cyrus Yousefian djent isn't a genre.
Cyrus Yousefian Chug along my friend.
Georges face as soon as the lyrics kicked in hahahaha
Sam Clark It was PRICELESS
These guys are amazing live!!
You guys started using the term djent recently in your videos. These guys are the reason that genre exist. The polyrythyms that meshuggah use have started the new wave of bands like tesseract and jinjer and after the burial to do things like this.
It really is a pity that the genre of Djent turned out to be hollow, banal shit though. It had such potential
@@ng2016 I would disagree with that myself but your welcome to your opinion
DJent does sound similar to this, it may be an influence
@@ng2016 not all, after the burial has great tunes, check out lost in the static by them
Great reaction! And appropriate reaction too. Hey man y’all made it through !
I actually like the fact that you guys don't just love everything. It's cool to see you not totally dig something. Honesty is good.
guitaarrmateey for real. Hell, I listen to metal and I don't like this song. Can't love everything. Glad to see them once again keep it real.
When George asked, is this heavy at the beginning....🤘oh yes sir, this is heavy!!
Messhuggah is pure destruccion! All of the members are amaizing! Cheers!
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition
Afonso Gonçalves That song is epic!
Hell yeah
Fucking yes please.
6:27 He said aneurysm! Nailed it :D (Tomas Haake himself has described it like that)
I hope you've had a chance to go to a show and see what these modern drummers can do! It is absolutely mind-blowing to see that they can actually do these crazy things without processing. And as you said...the stamina is ridiculously off the charts!
Love the head bob in the beginning, thats the signature reaction to this song lol
"This drummer is.... wow.... Is it two drummers?" Welcome to Meshuggah my friends hahaha
Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars (Live rehearsal - and this is important )
Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
Panzerkin finally Wintersun! Then how about Insomnium also?
For sure. Just thinking that Sons of the winter and stars would be an ideal song for them. A bit long yes, and maybe some vocals they're not ready for but still. So many different kind of melodic parts in this song for them to appreciate ( One likes the guitars, other one likes drumming) :)
I love Meshuggah; was lucky to see them live in NYC years ago. They are indeed a challenge for newcomers. I had heard them on some comps, but really got into them when I got the promo for Destroy Erase Improve to play on my radio show in Orlando back then.
I've loved almost everything out of Sweden. Entombed is my admitted favorite as I was an Earache nut back then and bought anything on that label in the 90s. Nuclear Blast/Relapse was the main promo supplier for my show.
Haake took more time to learn this song than he did on the entire rest of Obzen. One of the most amazingly technical drummers ever.