Drummer Reacts to MESHUGGAH - Bleed Live (Tomas Haake) | Drummer's Commentary Ep. 11
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Original video: • Meshuggah - Bleed - To...
I’ll never get tired of seeing reactions to meshuggah.
same
same :))))
Same! :D
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it's said that when one attends a Meshuggah concert, one will see the crowd bobbing in sometimes 3 or 4 different subdivisions....and they are ALL correct.
Well played!
Yet another reason to see them live! YES! 🤘
When they came to Chile some years ago ... I saw that same damn thing ... And thought "Wait a sec ... FUCK !!! .... They're right !!!!!!"
Seen it. It's true.
I got to see them back in the 90s on their first American tour and people weren't moving at all. Everybody stood silent in disbelief at what they were seeing and hearing. I got to meet them that night and they were super nice guys. I also found out they don't smoke weed because I offered and they politely declined claiming they only drink.
Metronomes use Tomas as a time reference.
Good one. hahaha
So does yo momma
😂😂😂
Metronomes hate him. Atomic clocks want to be him.
The pattern is called "herta". And I bet Tomas legs gotta herta after this race. I know he had to change the way he approached the drums to be able to play this song. Also, it took him about 6 months to learn it completely. As a guitar player I´d like us all to pls take a moment and think about the forearm stamina of the guitar/bassplayers. This is a musical masterpiece.
What's that name from? I'm guessing it's supposed to be an onomatopoeia?
@@meneerlagerwaard2047 Exactly.
@@meneerlagerwaard2047 I believe it comes from the jiddish word for "insanity"
Drummers are mad awesome. Im a guitarist and bass playey, economy picking is your freind, and as you get faster you can just circle pick so stamina just isnt an issue, i have no idea how drummers can do poly so fucking easily....
@@almosthonest42 it aint easy haha. Personally took my calfs and leg muscles and shit like a year and a half just to build up my endurance lol
Their light technician is the most crazy instrument player of Meshuggah.
Yeah,when Edvard Hansson follows Thomas Haake's Herta with one finger on the strobe mix table....INSANE... It's so fun to find videos on Edvard when he plays the lights manually to every song 👍👍👍👍👍
@@lurventut sadly it's programmed now, isn't it ?
@@samuelbalavoine5031 I think it is. But when this was recorded it was still manually done. Quite amazing to watch....
Not programmed as far as I know. Saw them live in Copenhagen 2016, and the lightshow was beyond INTENSE... in a good way🥳
@@samuelbalavoine5031 ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
Like Bill Burr said -
“It’s like his body is playing 2 different songs”
bill burr: I have no clue what im talking about
also bill burr: *explains meshuggah drumming perfectly*
its like on top you have normal voices talking, like "hey man, do you want to go out for a coffee", and on the bottom you have, "BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA BRRRTA"
@@acousticplayer3 puurrtapurrtapurrta prrtprrtprtprt
Had to come back to this reaction. This song never strays from 4/4 at any one point of the song. They're just insanely good at polyrhythms and beat manipulation!
I'm sure I remember reading that the band said it was 4/4 but how they arrange the riffs makes it seem in odd meters.
Yea, its always 4/4 but that specific note grouping of this little galloping pattern we hear throughout the song loops back in over the course of 2 measures and its not starting that 3rd measure the same as the 1st measure did. Its gonna start in the upbeat swing of that 4/4 timing.
All that the main pattern is, is three 16th note triplets followed by a 1/2 beat rest then an 8th note. And literally just repeat those 4 notes in time with the groove the time signature forces. Once you find that swingy kinda groove it has to it, its easy. Adding in the ghost notes so eligantly and maintaining perfect time with the opposing hand is just flexing if you ask me lmao
technically there is a section of 2/4 at 3:02 :)
When "Nothing" came out, I had to give it a couple of times listening in the recordstore. At first it all sounded off BUT cool! Amazing music and band🤘 -From a Norwegian
It’s 4/4 over 7
"Second language problems" Dude I didn't even realise you weren't english. Your english is outstanding.
Haha thanks! It’s like 95% there, but man, every once in a while I stumble on something stupid!
@@PatFlanigan So where are you from?
Yeah I was convinced he was American lmao
@@PatFlanigan if yours is 95% there then mine is 95% there too and I'm an american
I was 100% convinced you were American up until you said that
I’m actually from Montreal, Québec, so French is technically my first language. The majority of people from around here are bilingual, though. I just worked extra hard on erasing my Québécois accent!
when you talk about endurance he has to have in this song, the funny thing is, they usually play Bleed as the last or penultimate song 😂 so this is after an hour and half of drumming already
The rest is just the warm up.
In a interview i just watch, they said they hate playing it. It takes so much effort to perform, almost like the hole rest of the set. So if they could choose they would remove it and focus on the rest of the set
@@ZekeTheWolf and that adds up. I went to watch them a few months ago in Manchester and I was really looking forward to hearing it. They didn't play it but it makes sense now
"There's usually no point in reaching out for a china or reaching like so far up or whatever"
SAD MANGINI NOISES
You mean to say my elbows don't need to be at eye level?
hell, his hi-hats are way up there too!
Meshuggah is the quantum mechanics of Metal 🤘🔥💯
The amazing thing about this song in particular is the fact that if anyone gets off by one note, the song done
It's insane just in a vacuum, but this level of tightness and endurance is happening ~90 minutes into the set, when Bleed is usually played. These guys are not from this world.
Extremely underrated note here. For people who aren't terribly familiar, this is really not out of their wheelhouse. Live shows are insane and you get lost in the fact that Jens doesn't really move. A foot up and that's generally it. Sonically is where the chaos lives. Lights just really amplify the experience. But back to Bleed. Essentially Haake said is was written to not be played. And it's probably the most notable now. So they ain't opening with that. Five, six, seven in and they implode the building. Just from a stamina point of view... I mean, do you want to fuck with Thomas Haake?
Anyway, Nuke brings up a point that you should take with you into the next Meshuggah show. I
The shows are impressive but the engine is fucking bananas.
Drummers are the unsung heroes of the music industry
are they? In metal they do get quite a lot of attention, like Tomas, Matt from Periphery, The Rev, etc.
Also, as a reactor said, "A band is only as good as the drummer"
Drums are the first thing that catches my attention in music. And I dont play any instruments.
Unsung? Tomas Haake is Meshuggah.
Brain: Divert all power to the calves!
Glucose Stores: What?
Lmaooo
you're good!
Hahahahaha!
Phosphagen pathway: "Whelp, I'm out..."
Meshuggah "Clockworks" Drum playthrough
Also.... Spencer prewett "Lucid" Drum playthrough please
Clockworks is out of this world. Inrcredibly technical piece.
Tomas Haake is out of space!!! Metronome take his rythm for caliber lol
Oh yes! Clockworks is so totally awesome!
This is the way.
@@andrevlen9030 this is the way
It's surprising how few people react to Archspire.
Who else screamed "there's still more" when he thought the song was over?
I let out some kind of demonic chuckle when he moved his mouse to see if it had ended
@@simono.d9469 hehehe.
I've already watched over 10 different "drummer reacts to Meshuggah" videos. Somehow it never gets boring.
as good as it is to listen to the harder it is to actually play it.... this is an incredible masterpiece A work of art that only some can pull it off
It allways crack me up when people talk about how much stamina this song takes. This is really just on song of a 1 hour + set. The stamina to do a gig like that is absolutelly insane. Doing it every day for years is inhuman!
Its a crazy song! You must check out Clockworks as well. Not as impresive in the endurance aspect, but I think its actually harder to play
Agreed with this ⬆️
Clockworks is definitely a great showcase for all of Tomas' skills
Bonkers track. They are crazy in their own separate ways.
Yes, clockwork is for the hands, Bleed for the feet!
@@keluargabuleminang No... that is Nostrum. Also a playthrough with Thomas. :)
Tomas Haake doesn't have legs,....he has 2 Yggdrasils growing from his torso.
Nice
Wooden legs? 😂 More like Sleipners legs...
🤜🤛
This took Tomas 6 months to be able to play. Almost as long as the time it took him to learn the other songs in album that Bleed came from. Clockworks has a drum playthrough and that is from their most recent album. I'd also recommend future breed machine
Tomas Haake is incredible. He makes some of the highly technical drummers to drop their jaws to his performances
and yet he doesnt see himself as a very technical drummer
ABBA in all its glory, but Sweden should be known for all these style-forming rock bands they have produced since the early eighties.
Idk if you noticed the ghost notes he playing on the snare its just wow
Dude thats what i said. Accomplishing that whilst doing the foot pattern absolutely melts my brain.
The sad part is that those ghost notes don't get picked up by the mic, or rather so silent that you can barely notice it. At least I couldn't hear it on youtube, while you can clearly see them played.
@@Mozgodrobil a good trained ear will hear them every time
@@shredder9643 I don't think that's the issue here though, the issue here is that it's either poorly mixed record or just snare mic being too far off or weirdly set up, I can't notice the ghost notes at all. One of the music producers was also reacting to this same recording here on YT and he heard none either. I usually always detect all these minor intricacies and I very much enjoy when drummers add all that extra layer to a song.
@@Mozgodrobil fair enough
The commentary timer at the bottom is great. More reactors should use it.
I had that idea while editing... thought it would give viewers an idea of when I was gonna shut up hahaha! Glad you like it, I’ll keep doing that.
Haake said in an interview, that the amount of effort and time to learn this song alone, was the same of the entire album left.
Nothing better than watching drummers geek out over Tomas Haake
4:11 "I have no idea what the time signature is" tomas haake IS time.
Pat, you also need to see Tomas play Clockworks, unbelievable good song too.
His ghost notes on his snare set up his timing for his kicks for this song. His footwork is all set up with hertas.
And a little note for you, he spent most of his writing time for obZen ( the album the song comes from ) just on this song. Something like 6 months to train himself for the kick patterns, written from drum software.
Too be perfectly honest, 6 months is really not that long to learn a song. These guys are really talented.
These are literally acts of Next Level Human Ability.
Not to even mention the nuttiest part of it all imo, the ghost notes thatre just hip thrusting in the back and maintaining the groove pocket that this particular rythem/song flourished from. Its a resounding two handed 🤘🤘 from shredder.
Tomas Haake is a criminally underrated drummer. His skills are second to none.
Haake can be many things but underrated he is not. He’s widely considered as one of the best drummers in the world.
He's the GOAT drummer.
Thomas is not human!! He is a machine!🤘🏼
"I'm trying to keep, like, a 4/4 thing going on..." and then as on que - Meshuggah throws a curve ball. Such a great timing and so true with these guys! Seen them live a few times and it's such a great experience every time. Still hoping for that Anika Nilles reaction, btw!
The foot pattern phrasing shifts throughout...there at least 3 or 4 different patterns...Just love these guys...
I believe he's doing hertas on his feet. Typically a hand technique. Time signature is straight 4/4.
I'd love to see you react/commentary to Lord Marco performing "The Husk" or "Mental Prolapse" or "Genetic Inheritance". Thanks!
That yellow bar alone made me subscribe, also relieved about how you feel about other reactions, same here, keep it going man!
I gotta say you have the best template for reacting. That progress bar you have when you talk is a game changer
Awesome walk thru!!! Thx for a cool explanation of drum playing.
The strange thing is that even if you can't count this stuff in your head, it still makes perfect sense when you listen to it.
That was a lot of fun watching you getting blown away by this, great commentary! Well done and keep posting mate.
Great video man, love your enthusiasm for the art and technique of music. Many reaction channels don't seem to be as genuinely pumped as you 🤘
Amazing drummer. Amazing band.
Every time I am listening to that song I feel like there is some kind of wall going and crushing all in its way. This is the very essence of metal, incredibly heavy one
This makes me so happy 😊 because Meshuggah is a beast. So much talent! I love them.
Man the intro was spot on. I subscribed just when hearing that intro where you explained what's different about your reactions.
This is the best and most serious reaction i've seen yet. You take it really serious. And i can tell you Tomas is a really nice guy.
Love the bar at the bottom counting up to when you play the video gain, great idea
That switch to the closed high hat is so beautiful - subtle & powerful
First time watching your videos man and really enjoyed it! Hope you keep it up 😊
I love how he replicates the picking rhythm guitar with his feet, I took some practice to get the high hat pattern the same.
Great vid! One thing you forgot to note, Thomas loves to play ghost notes on the snare in between each snare hit. Mainstream will never understand the complexity and masterpiece of this song!
I'm not even a drummer never played an instrument in my life but your passion for the drums makes a video worth watching ! Over and over again keep it up
love the reaction dude!
2:03 I've discussed this with some musicians and some great double bass drummers so I can confirm: the basic beat is a polyrhythm in 4/4 that repeats after 2 bars AND 16th notes with 32nd notes.
Brilliance experienced is always amazing.
The progress bar during the paused bits is genius! Since you had insightful things to say I didn't skip but I wish other channels used those
love your videos, especially the reacts.
i love the fact that you listen to this with the HD600's. those are absolute beasts and give this amazing wide sound dimension. Great video dude! kep it up!
Meshuggah is one of those bands you really get the most appreciation out of a lot of their songs after a few listens to nail down what is really going on....and it's almost always worth it.
I can't wait to see them live again 🤘🤘
I saw Tomas in an interview say the main thing for him when performing or practicing,....is to put all of my concentration on relaxing. He said your mind works much more efficiently when your not playing outside your abilities. Which allows you to relax. For instance playing things slower to get a handle on it before you full send it. I think that's perfect advice. I've been playing for years and it's still extremely difficult to FULLY relax while playing. He is a world-beater to say the least. He is,...imo,....the Guthrie Govan of drummers.
“I’m trying to keep the 4-4 going on...”
Aaanddd he lost it 😂
😂 that timing was perfect
He just throws his hands up and shrugs like nope. Cant figure that out. Hahah i laughed out loud to that
I watched an interview on Swedish tv with tokas talking about this song and they realized after making this and it become a huge hit. Suddenly it was clear they would have to play this song on every show for the rest of their lives and tomas said "what the fuck have we done?" In Swedish obv. fantastic drumming this man is unreal.
Ok. That laugh, 10:54. I do the same thing when i see some bad ass music.
One of My fave drummers
If you love the drums, there's a clip out there filming the lights guy for their show. Do yourself a favor and look it up, it's insane.
m.ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
You're right, damn!
The secret 6th band member! 🤘🏼
It's amazing that people still think that the lights are done manually, and still spread that video. That video was recorded 8 years ago and shortly after that, Meshuggah started playing against click tracks and went over to fully pre preprogrammed lightshows. His name is Edvard Hansson and he is an amazing light operator and light designer and here is his youtube channel .
ua-cam.com/channels/X2SzBV4epScnDbunObW9Ig.html
But its still so hilarious that people still think that all lights are done manually still, 8 years later.
@@thomasandolf7365 funnily enough its almost like a tell that someone can't have been listening to them for very long if they aren't aware of this.
@@thomasandolf7365 I'm aware, but thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
I have massive respect for drummers.. and mr. Haake is a GOD.
3:50 that's the reaction I was waiting for haha.
People at the beginning of this song: "Alright, I figured it out, it's simple but hard I get it."
And then it hits you and you just give up.
I like the bar on the bottom to show when your done with the pauses. Good reaction too
What always boggled me is how the heck do they end at the same time. They're so atomic in their precision it's insane.
Experiencing it live is in a world of itself.... the sound set up was so superb that you felt the kicks on every note... easily one of the best concerts I've been too.
Maaaan I love how the guitar on the right ear drones up and back into the rhythm @ 3:10. They are so masterful. So many variations within a 4/4 signature.
Entertaining bro. Cheers
Finally a new video 🤩🤩
I got to see them at a House of Blues about 10 years ago. Was one of the best shows I’d ever been to.
I've yet to see them. I heare they are f'n insane.
Great reaction bro !
3:50 "i'm trying to keep a 4/4 thing going on" immediately throws up hands :D
theyre one of the few bands that could beat the devil at a rockoff
They could beat God and the Devil at the same time
Besides the rhythm consistency of the band you should also know that the light technician is doing the strobe effects manually. I've observed him doing this at a liveshow, and was like WTF
It took longer for him to learn this one song than the entire rest of the album. Months into practicing it, he almost gave up but ended up learning it in approx 6 months.
Its soooooo good!!
The great thing I love with these bands like Meshuggah, Tool, Jinjer and most progish bands is that they have dynamics down to a science.
It's also why I loved 90's House, most memorable songs that can still be played today had dynamics and progression throughout the songs.
Their songs are constantly on the move, even the songs like Bleed that have an overall sense of being an onslaught or droning on, the song, the rhythms, everything is still constantly changing.
Even the Chorus is rarely the same every time, it too progresses.
You had the same with oldschool rock, metal and rap, every song was a journey, musically and lyrically.
I never understood why people love pop music so much where usually everything from the beat to the chorus is just a constant boring repeat with no dynamics and no real progression between repeats of the same loops.
It's because the songs are designed to sell, and the biggest market is the ones who aren't actively listening to music. Those listeners don't want to hear insane progression and nuance, they want to be able to sing along the next time around while focusing on whatever they're doing. They won't hear the nuances anyway. Sad reality of most industries today, unfortunately. Quality doesn't scale in cost efficiency.
Everybody: "The Drums and the guitar."
Bass: "I aM a jOkE To YOu?"
Got introduced by my uncle to meshuggah with about 16 - (Album Chaosphere on a Tape) back then my favourite band still to now and saw them several times live.
Glad to see that this Band still inspires and give awe to the "younger generation". Their style and music are imho timeless
He said in an interview around the time this album was released that he had to completely change his playing style and come up with a new approach to playing his bass drums in order to just record this song.
The time signature on guitar goes nuts, its so hard to figure out by ear. Needless to say, these guys were way more deserving of coverage for their insanely technical skill. Glad they are finally getting some recognition
Nice video man, I can't get enough of people reacting to this song, especially drummers who actually understand how impossibly insane this kind of drumming is. I would highly recommend Thomas Haake's Clockwork drum playthrough, its an excellent song that's focused solely on the drumming and it has a much different feel to this song, not so much emphasis on double pedal polys yet equally impressive.
Tomas is a beast!
You could check out Chris Turner from Oceans Ate Alaska, he is just crazy
not could, should. chris is ... his own genre. and style. got a solo album coming out, "40 roll" is already batshit crazy
ABSOLUTELY! That 40 Roll thing was just MASSIVE
Chris is...the new standard. Period.
SLAYER
great video! just one comment, about the time signatures: it is for sure in 4/4, as the snare and cymbals imply and the song structure too (with changes after 4 bars). but the rhythmic pattern in the bass drum isn't: it starts with a pattern in 3/16, which changes latter to a pattern of 5/16 and after the brake it goes to a 27/16 (7+7+5+3+5). it actually does not match the 4/4 structure, it almost overrides the counting.
Love how you have your own timer lol. great video
Haha thanks! It’s my own patented “when is he gonna stfu” progress bar!
As some have said, never enough Meshuggah reacts. Subbed
i listen to meshuggah nearly every day and I’m still lost, but that’s probably the reason why i’m still listening to it every day
Great ! Thanks !
I’m seeing them in Worcester, MA for the first time this month! Doing my YT homework before I go lol.
Just consider for a second how awesome the lightshow guy is for this band!
There used to be a running joke that drummers are people who hang out with musicians. Tomas Haake is a god who hangs out with mortals.