Customer Sued Over Huge Tip To Waitress

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
  • They say he confirmed the amount and then changed his mind after they paid her.
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  • @E.Carrillo
    @E.Carrillo 3 дні тому +692

    The fact that they went out to the guy and confirmed he was tipping that amount absolutely makes this a promise.

    • @lilmike2710
      @lilmike2710 3 дні тому +40

      Signing a receipt expressly agreeing to leave the tip makes it a promise from the start.

    • @mbburry4759
      @mbburry4759 3 дні тому +27

      ​@@lilmike2710 yah but easily disputable. It's not like they can't be altered, a mistake made, or anyone takes the signature stuff seriously... but it was confirmed here, not just left on the table

    • @inbcetc3569
      @inbcetc3569 3 дні тому

      What about jesus? ​@@mbburry4759

    • @LiquidTang
      @LiquidTang 3 дні тому +7

      @@lilmike2710ehh, ppl make mistakes and you don’t know their financial situation. Saw a similar story of on old lady they accidentally tipped way too much and couldn’t afford it and the store was trying so to fight to keep it

    • @GamingArcane
      @GamingArcane 3 дні тому +23

      @@LiquidTang Because when you issue a chargeback, you don't just get the money back. The store has to pay another transaction fee ontop of the transaction fee they paid to run the card in the first place. You're essentially stealing money from the store when you do this.

  • @capq57
    @capq57 3 дні тому +407

    You'll never convince me that social media has been a net positive for humanity.

    • @anonnona8099
      @anonnona8099 3 дні тому

      @capq57
      > You'll never convince me that social media has been a net positive for humanity.
      One day we will shut them all down.
      When that day comes we will wonder what took us so long.

    • @carlcarlson5553
      @carlcarlson5553 3 дні тому +2

      It's has/will. Something to understand is we will have to get used to social media. It's a brand new thing

    • @justanoman6497
      @justanoman6497 3 дні тому +11

      Kind of depend on where you are. For us, who live in developed country, it's causing excessive amount of trash information and is thus likely a net negative. But for third world countries where alternative means of information is either unavailable or unreliable(due to government control), it is an important tool.

    • @scottmitchell1974
      @scottmitchell1974 3 дні тому +10

      It's evil, for sure.

    • @idminister
      @idminister 3 дні тому

      its just a tool, neither good nor evil, neither positive nor negative. All the negative and evil is from people.
      it is nothing more than a tool that shows to large numbers the true nature of people, a nature that is and was prior to any technology even in antiquity

  • @sddirt6840
    @sddirt6840 2 дні тому +137

    My brother has an online store, and he was telling me that people commonly buy stuff and dispute the charges. Or, they will buy something and return it, except they return an empty box. Or a box with random trash in it. There are so many dishonest people out there nowadays, it makes me sick.

    • @undrhil
      @undrhil 2 дні тому +5

      People do that at Walmart every day

    • @hoolihanohoolihan1011
      @hoolihanohoolihan1011 2 дні тому

      And it seems any small business is utterly incapable of winning a dispute, bc the credit card companies in America are bullshit

    • @rossk4864
      @rossk4864 День тому +13

      I live in central Alaska where my daughter worked at a recycling center that received surplus and returned products and materials from contractors and businesses. Due to the expense of shipping back to the lower 48, Lowes and Home Depot sent all returned merchandise to this recycler, rather than ship it back to their headquarters thousands of miles away, under the agreement that the recycler would shred and salvage the metals only, however, they allowed employees to take home whatever they could use. I received numerous, expensive appliances and equipment from my daughter with absolutely nothing wrong with them. Lacking service departments, the big box stores couldn't verify customer claimed defects, and I believe many items had been purchased with the intent of one-time use and then were returned to the store for full refund. This becomes the cost of doing business, and I am certain, a significant inflation driver.

    • @absurdengineering
      @absurdengineering День тому +2

      @@rossk4864In Europe they’ll just laugh you out of the store if you would return something for anything but an actual failure to perform. No “changed my mind” BS. The used stuff lists here can be surreal in places. No “changed mind” so once people get tired of stuff they sell it often for not much. And being a hoarder with typical apartments here is not viable for any length of time. People have to get rid of stuff and the secondhand market thrives. Not everywhere of course.

    • @rossk4864
      @rossk4864 День тому +5

      @@absurdengineering This doesn't surprise me. In the U.S. of years gone by, sales staff had a thorough knowledge of tools, equipment and materials they sold, and returns were inspected, tested and evaluated before refund. With big box stores, many of the sales staff have very little knowledge so a customer can easily make up a story of a bogus defect and the clerk in the store cannot inspect the item and tell whether or not it is really defective. Management apparently thinks it is better to accept all returns without question and add the cost of this deception to overhead. Very sad but true.

  • @MikaylaSkillen
    @MikaylaSkillen 2 дні тому +164

    That "so sue me" was probably just a throwaway line he wanted to dismiss them with 🤣

    • @balsalmalberto8086
      @balsalmalberto8086 11 годин тому

      He's just regurgitating phrases he heard someone else say and copying social media trends. We got a mensa member on our hands.

    • @cheleshows
      @cheleshows 10 годин тому

      SUPRISE!!

  • @Muddfoot01
    @Muddfoot01 3 дні тому +1235

    So sounds like he did the tip for online clout in a video, but he didn't get the views he was looking for. People are idiots.

    • @damiang888
      @damiang888 3 дні тому +57

      Probably decided from the start to do it and then dispute the charge, and just didn't expect the restaurant actually confirming the amount with him.
      That or he realized that the high of giving away 3k for online clout is a fleeting feeling and decided he rather had the money.

    • @Poppagee69
      @Poppagee69 3 дні тому +1

      He was planning on getting to give her the flesh tip later as her giving thanks and now I hope it breaks his bank . FRAUD 101

    • @Migglesworth
      @Migglesworth 3 дні тому +7

      "So sounds like he did the tip for online clout in a video, but he didn't get the views he was looking for. People are idiots."
      Yes, people who start sentences with, "so" are idiots.

    • @circeciernova1712
      @circeciernova1712 3 дні тому +61

      ​@@Migglesworth
      As are those whose YT account begins with an M

    • @geoffh1
      @geoffh1 3 дні тому +62

      ​@@MigglesworthGet out of here. You had grammar errors in your post too.

  • @Epok317
    @Epok317 3 дні тому +531

    Being generous on social media isn't actually generosity, its clout chasing.

    • @Noname-km3zx
      @Noname-km3zx 3 дні тому +1

      Not technically true, a lot of people that are generous tend not do i subtly but openly, that is basically chasing clout.
      I have only truly been generous 2 times or so in my life.
      And example is when I slipped my friend 100 dollars in his jacket, since it degrading to ask for money when you're broke.
      Social media or not, it kind of the same.

    • @Epok317
      @Epok317 3 дні тому +7

      @@Noname-km3zx that makes absolutely no sense.

    • @caseylandau9839
      @caseylandau9839 3 дні тому +4

      I have to disagree with you on this. Yes, sure, a lot of these people are being generous for the "clout", however, given the number of ways that they can chase those views (with a disturbing number of those methods being to the detriment of those around them or are just outright stupid), they're instead choosing to help people, their communities and/or the world in general. Provided they're not going behind the scenes and trying to take back what they've given (like some we've seen) I see nothing wrong with it. In my book, it's a Win-Win-Win situation. They get their much desired clout, someone gets help that they might desperately need (which very well might be the difference between life and death) and we get a heart warming video to watch. And you can add in another Win if that video inspires someone else to go out and help someone.

    • @docbradleydc
      @docbradleydc 3 дні тому +2

      It can be both, and I'm okay with that

    • @Epok317
      @Epok317 3 дні тому +6

      @caseylandau9839 this is exactly why people like Logan Paul or any Kick streamer can get away with being so incorrigible. Someone will always try to make excuses for obvious scammers. It's like those people who say "it's illegal to lie on TV". And so people keep lying on TV, because there's a sucker born every minute.

  • @user-ey2xp2ge9y
    @user-ey2xp2ge9y 2 дні тому +140

    This is credit card fraud, a crime, so he should be arrested immediately.

    • @WhiteWolf65
      @WhiteWolf65 День тому +6

      If customer has done this a few times, card company should revoke his credit card, pending a prepaid "security" amount.

    • @MarkDalbey-rh9lc
      @MarkDalbey-rh9lc День тому +1

      Not really. I am not a lawyer, but I was in business and took credit cards. I did a 2,000 job for a guy, my cost in parts and subcontractors was around a 1,500. The guy paid with a credit card. I performed the work satisfactorily according to the work order at the price agreed on in the work order that he signed. I took credit cards then. About two weeks later he reversed the charges on me and in turn the credit card company reversed their payment causing me to bounce a number of checks at 30.00 each. To get my money I had to sue the guy for breach of contract in civil court. He signed the credit card slip and that is a contract. By signing he was agreeing to pay that amount. It cost me more to hire a lawyer to sue him than the 2,000 bill. I would have been better off financially to just eat the loss and let it go, but I was pissed. I won. I think I was in court about 30 minutes. It was pretty open and shut. Needless to say that I have never taken credit cards in any business again. For all new customers it is cash only. If you are somebody that I know I might take your check. I have probably lost business because of it, but I do not get pissed so much. If the charges get reversed that is breach of contract to me and a civil action, but he is not defrauding the credit card company so it is not criminal. If he does not pay the credit card company, that is still civil because he is not paying a debt that he owes. If he outright lies to the credit card company that is criminal and credit card fraud. At least that is the way that my lawyer explained it to me, that was 30 years ago. After 30 years my memory might be a little foggy. That guy signing the credit card slip for the tip is a contract. He is agreeing to pay 3,000 and there are no backsies. The restaurant might have a pretty good case for breach of contract. I am not a lawyer, but that is how I would go. The problem is the restaurant is out the 3,000 until it works through court. I think it took me about a year.

    • @WhiteWolf65
      @WhiteWolf65 День тому +3

      @@MarkDalbey-rh9lc Should have done the guy for the money AND legal costs.

    • @aaronreynolds1504
      @aaronreynolds1504 День тому

      @@MarkDalbey-rh9lc You could have got that guy for legal fees and the costs incurred for the bounced checks. His credit card company could have gone after him for fraud since he knew it was a legit debt and tried to reverse the charges.

    • @christine_lovelace
      @christine_lovelace День тому +1

      Naw

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill 2 дні тому +201

    This title is misleading. It should be "Customer Sued after RENEGING on Huge Tip to Waitress." Very different thing.

    • @collectorguy3919
      @collectorguy3919 День тому +10

      Truth gets fewer clicks. It gets more attention when it's absurd.

    • @davidglad
      @davidglad День тому +5

      If they didn't indicate seeing the customer's id (mentioned early in this), I'd seriously wonder if it was the cardholder who did that. As it doesn't sound like the restaurant would lie on that detail

    • @doorguru168888
      @doorguru168888 19 годин тому +4

      It's the same thing. The lawsuit did stem over the huge tip. Whether it was a reneg or the tip was left with counterfeit money. No, the title is not misleading. Get over yourself.

    • @cornishmaid9138
      @cornishmaid9138 15 годин тому +2

      I don’t think it was a lie, just a grammar problem. Had the word ‘was’ been used, i.e ‘Customer “was” sued over huge tip’, it would have made better sense.

    • @sublimeade
      @sublimeade 14 годин тому +1

      Renegging

  • @kevinslater4126
    @kevinslater4126 3 дні тому +304

    What a jerk. This guy deserves to lose.

    • @user-jb4xv4im9o
      @user-jb4xv4im9o 3 дні тому +12

      Using the name of Jesus for a scam is horrible. Makes me wonder if he's against God and was determined to make God look bad, not doing it to be kind to the waitress.
      Tips for Jesus is more of a giving in the name of Jesus to show the love of Jesus to someone who could really use the blessing, it's not for Jesus or because they were told to by Jesus. Just a loving gesture because they love Jesus so much and want to share that love with others. Done correctly it's an awesome thing to do and blesses. The giver too. I only do it in cash anonymously, although I certainly can't afford $3000.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 3 дні тому +1

      The credit card company needs to lose not him

    • @unitedstatian
      @unitedstatian 3 дні тому +11

      @@the_expidition427 Why yes, blaming everyone else but the perpetrator is the smart thing to do! What a fool you are, the man who spent the money and immediately confirmed it was his intention and then charges it back is a criminal. That is called fraud and damages were made in the process, he is lucky he isn't in jail for a felony fraud charge since it was well over the misdemeanor amount.

    • @wildfire160
      @wildfire160 3 дні тому +6

      @@the_expidition427 Why that makes no sense the card company has no blame in this...the`re not involved in any of it

    • @someguy6075
      @someguy6075 3 дні тому +2

      @@wildfire160 Idk most of the issues lie with the customer but the card company seems negligent. It depends on their contract with the restaurant, maybe disputes are automatically granted and the vendor has to sue the customer. On top of estoppel and negligence, I can see restaurant and card vs customer for fraud and restaurant vs customer for defamation.
      A dispute isn't "I changed my mind" it's "the vendor is fraudulent or did not perform as agreed" and there is theoretically a process it goes through and possible appeals.

  • @ScottWaa
    @ScottWaa 3 дні тому +155

    When he wrote the tip and signed his name, he agreed to pay that amount.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 дні тому +22

      Especially since he was specifically asked before leaving if he meant to leave 3k and he said he did.

    • @Mouthwashh
      @Mouthwashh 3 дні тому +4

      Oh really? Thanks for explaining how paying a restaurant bill works, really insightful commentary. We can all rest easy now that you’ve explained the situation.

    • @ScottWaa
      @ScottWaa 3 дні тому +19

      @@Mouthwashh pretty basic. The writing and signature was clearly printed. Seems like millions of people understand, yet you don't?

    • @doom4067
      @doom4067 3 дні тому +3

      He agreed to pay the amount that he wrote in the total line, not in the tip line. No one is talking about that amount.

    • @Bjorn_Slagor_VII
      @Bjorn_Slagor_VII 3 дні тому

      Are you allowed to fleece the disabled? We can't drive with our phones. Why should this situation be any different? They should have declined the tip. Easy money, never is.

  • @gscurd75
    @gscurd75 2 дні тому +105

    I seriously hope the dude has to pay the $3k, plus court costs, plus lawyer fees, plus emotional damages.

    • @FrankYammy
      @FrankYammy 2 дні тому +3

      Emotional damages?

    • @gscurd75
      @gscurd75 2 дні тому +5

      @FrankYammy It wouldn't be tons but more than the amount if he just did nothing. The waitress who got the tip would have made plans for that money once he confirmed it was legit. Say they were in debt roughly $3k and the weight of that had suddenly been lifted. Then that suddenly ends. That counts as emotional damage.

    • @williamhaynes7089
      @williamhaynes7089 2 дні тому +4

      Emotional damages? the lasy got the money... the employer is the one thats out right now

    • @FrankYammy
      @FrankYammy 2 дні тому +4

      @@gscurd75 the waitress got the money though, its the restaurant that lost $3,000

    • @verucasalt9182
      @verucasalt9182 День тому +1

      Protect the owner if the restaurant. He is the one with all the cost of running a business in today’s economy !

  • @turtleinashirt
    @turtleinashirt 3 дні тому +163

    As a Christian myself, it’s always a real kick in the jewels when someone does something idiotic and brings Jesus into as a co-conspirator.

    • @Ducky69247
      @Ducky69247 2 дні тому +5

      Yup, he's a true xtian by virtue *and* behavior

    • @glendamcgee1779
      @glendamcgee1779 2 дні тому +3

      Wow, you nailed it, Turtle.

    • @Mewse1203
      @Mewse1203 2 дні тому +16

      I'm an atheist and even I know Jesus wouldn't be happy with this guy. Being "generous" only for the social media clout is the opposite of the teachings. He's also a hypocrite.

    • @Ducky69247
      @Ducky69247 2 дні тому +4

      @@Mewse1203 not the character from the book, god forbid, right? That character is pretty far removed from contemporary xtians anyway.

    • @Mewse1203
      @Mewse1203 2 дні тому +9

      @Ducky69247 I mean, the whole thing is inconsistent, and theres no way to possibly remember word for word what a dude said for 30+ years before writing it down, but Matthew 6 basically has Jesus saying, "If you're going to give to charity, be quiet about it. Only hypocrites make noise about their charity."

  • @DirtRacerX
    @DirtRacerX 3 дні тому +714

    "Social media trend." ugh, I hate this planet.

    • @Poppagee69
      @Poppagee69 3 дні тому +6

      There's a warm place awaiting you.

    • @stevep7346
      @stevep7346 3 дні тому +34

      Usually interchangeable with "contagious stupidity."

    • @dontaylor7315
      @dontaylor7315 3 дні тому +40

      @@Poppagee69 If you mean there's a circle of hell reserved for people who don't love social media, maybe I better get ready to go there. At least I'll be with a lot of my friends.

    • @dontaylor7315
      @dontaylor7315 3 дні тому +15

      @@DirtRacerX Don't hate the planet, hate the century.

    • @IaIaCthulhuFtagn
      @IaIaCthulhuFtagn 3 дні тому +7

      @@dontaylor7315 Lol, I would be right there with you, but youtube comment sections are social media too.

  • @IaIaCthulhuFtagn
    @IaIaCthulhuFtagn 3 дні тому +101

    They even went back and made sure he had meant the tip. This is definitely all on him.

  • @user-nz2rv5vs1o
    @user-nz2rv5vs1o 3 дні тому +31

    All tips should be paid in cash

    • @pcspecialistpdx
      @pcspecialistpdx День тому +6

      they shouldn't even be tips, tips are taxable and the god most people call government doesn't deserve any of it. Give gifts, not tips.

  • @Harold_Callahan
    @Harold_Callahan 2 дні тому +91

    The customer should be forced to pay 6k just to punish him for being another stupid social media zombie.

  • @ScramblerUSA
    @ScramblerUSA 3 дні тому +145

    That's the bad side of social media. I'm pretty sure he made pictures or videos of him leaving a $3000 tip, posted it, gathered a ton of likes, but it was done solely for the likes. Therefore, he reversed the transaction and enjoyed his likes. The lengths people are willing to go for those likes and hype are insane.

    • @satoau1
      @satoau1 3 дні тому +6

      sure but i'm pretty sure this guy would still be a douche doing the same kinds of thing in a world without social media.

    • @justme-dm7sb
      @justme-dm7sb 2 дні тому +1

      For "likes"? I can't imagine that. I intentionally stayed out of social media. Back when AOL was the only thing going and My Space wasn't even born yet I saw things happen to people that predicted some of the things I hear about today. I never thought it would get as bad as it has though. For "likes" is insane. Some people truly are a waste of space, air and food.

    • @satoau1
      @satoau1 2 дні тому

      @@justme-dm7sb is it the "likes" themselves or an addiction to the biological process brought on by "likes"?

    • @LilyoftheValeyrising
      @LilyoftheValeyrising День тому

      They would never know he disputed the charge and he would carry on with his fake generosity.

  • @steventogami898
    @steventogami898 3 дні тому +676

    Hope the restaurant prevails, and the judge adds on lawyer fees, punitive damages.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 3 дні тому +13

      *Why do you hope the restaurant prevails?*
      *_How bout this... I hope whomever you're expecting an inheritance from, goes on a generous spending spree of tips like this person did and spends all of your inheritance, and loses their house because they don't have money for the property tax._*
      NOW do you feel differently?

    • @zombiecheney4583
      @zombiecheney4583 3 дні тому +57

      ​@@m4rvinmartian no

    • @hotpuppy1
      @hotpuppy1 3 дні тому +40

      @@m4rvinmartian TOTALLY different case here.

    • @deniselittle5558
      @deniselittle5558 3 дні тому +70

      @@m4rvinmartian could you make a dumber comment?

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf 3 дні тому +57

      @@m4rvinmartian And how is that the restaurant's fault?
      This guy cost the restaurant $3k. He needs to pay his bill.

  • @Psyrecx
    @Psyrecx 3 дні тому +20

    *Last time I checked, committing fraud was a crime...*

    • @CJ-ty8sv
      @CJ-ty8sv 5 годин тому

      Honestly, "fraud" in regards to this case would be EXTEREMLY HARD if not impossible to prove. Here all he has to argue is that he was intending to be "generous" by leaving a $30.00 tip on a $13.00 bill and he was distracted or something and accidently put what appears to be a comma after then 3 rather than a point after the 1st zero. Unless you can go back in time and read minds, there is no way to disprove that, should it be his argument.
      This assumes that he wrote $3,000 and not $3,000.00 which honestly, I've seen many people do, omit the zero's that would be after the point and not put the point.

  • @user-mo6if9us2y
    @user-mo6if9us2y 3 дні тому +48

    Kudos to the restaurant owner for not trying to claw the money back from the waitress.

    • @balsalmalberto8086
      @balsalmalberto8086 11 годин тому +1

      But not kudos to tips being the only way they can make a living as a waitress.

  • @BlackCat_2
    @BlackCat_2 3 дні тому +106

    Too many dishonest people out there with no honor. 😢 I had this guy recommended to me decades ago to build my front porch. He showed up and was this short elderly hispanic man and his 3 sons. We had no written contract. He and his sons built a beautiful porch for me that is just what I wanted. It's also still standing over 2 decades later. I paid him what he asked plus a little bonus since they did such a perfect job. He's been deceased for a while now but I still think of him often when I am enjoying the porch. Heidi

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 дні тому +8

      Here's a cookie for not being a jerk. 🍪

    • @chrisragone8785
      @chrisragone8785 День тому +1

      @@BariumCobaltNitrog3nNo cookie for you!

    • @mickvonbornemann3824
      @mickvonbornemann3824 День тому +2

      You’re a lucky many getting to deal with honourable workers, I hope you recommended them to others

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n День тому +1

      @@chrisragone8785 what's your problem?

    • @Dbb27
      @Dbb27 15 годин тому

      @@BariumCobaltNitrog3n some people wake up and wonder, hmmm, who can I insult today?

  • @BrianBorawski
    @BrianBorawski 3 дні тому +1134

    The gentleman wrote the check or paid on credit with no intent to pay, isn't that fraud?

    • @dianayount2122
      @dianayount2122 3 дні тому +23

      credit card

    • @THEECYBERMACKIN
      @THEECYBERMACKIN 3 дні тому +40

      No, probably was drunk plus anyone can write a tip in

    • @OptimiSkeptic
      @OptimiSkeptic 3 дні тому +169

      I would assume that he meant it when he did it, then changed his mind. To me, that's a much worse person than a purposeful fraudster. A competent person who will make a commitment that evaporates when their mood changes is weak of constitution and character, a dishonorable person of the most despicable sort.

    • @kingtrode
      @kingtrode 3 дні тому +70

      It’s fraud in my opinion

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 3 дні тому +32

      Thinking its legit is the real crazy part. If someone pays that much, they are jumping off a cliff when they leave. There's no other reason.

  • @user-ne7zi3ym3b
    @user-ne7zi3ym3b День тому +17

    I always give tips in cash so that the waitress/waiter doesn't have to pay taxes on the tip.

    • @FreeAmerican-mm2my
      @FreeAmerican-mm2my 15 годин тому +2

      Waiters/waitresses would never violate the tax code.

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 3 години тому +1

      @@FreeAmerican-mm2my Eff it, anyone making less than minimum wage shouldn't have to pay a dime in taxes, period. Hand that responsibility over to the fat cats on their mountains of assets. Cinch down on tax havens for the rich. And if waitstaff 'accidentally' underestimate their tips until that happens, so be it.

  • @vanlifefpv6340
    @vanlifefpv6340 2 дні тому +12

    I once had a tip changed to a fraudulent tip by the restaurant. They added one zero to my $5 tip to change it to $50 and I was saved because I took a photo of the receipt before I left. My credit card would have denied my fraud claim if it were not for the photo I took.

    • @hoolihanohoolihan1011
      @hoolihanohoolihan1011 2 дні тому +2

      No they wouldn't, I wish that was true as a business owner but we are basically powerless against disputes in America

    • @justinwhite2725
      @justinwhite2725 День тому

      This is why in Canada your card never leaves your possession. It is highly, highly unusual for a server to take your card to the till to run it.
      Instead they bring out a little pad where they swipe it, you confirm the amount, then enter your PIN.
      I'm told they don't do this in the US.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 23 години тому

      @@hoolihanohoolihan1011
      From my understanding they usually always side with the buyer. I know this because I have sold things on Ebay before and Ebay will always side with the buyer over the seller in a dispute even if the buyer has proof that the package was sent with tracking number.

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 години тому

      @@justinwhite2725 Some places in the US have started doing it that way. Some even have a purpose-built 'tablet' of sorts that stays at the table so you can order dessert and pay without having to wait for someone to come over with the check. I'm with ya, it should be that way at every restaurant.

  • @clbcl5
    @clbcl5 3 дні тому +722

    His wife saw the charge. She told him to go get the money from this jesus guy.

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael 3 дні тому +35

      You hit the nail

    • @ariochiv
      @ariochiv 3 дні тому +51

      Giving a $3K tgip sounds more like something a lonely single man would do. 😁

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 3 дні тому +16

      @@ariochiv or, a kind and generous man

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 3 дні тому +8

      I hear that guy was never good with money.

    • @E.Carrillo
      @E.Carrillo 3 дні тому +18

      No, I think this guy was planning a Tic Tok video, but it went wrong.

  • @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
    @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 3 дні тому +107

    I wonder if the guy made a social media post bragging about his -$5,000- $3,000 tip. I think that would play well in court.

    • @MachoRaton
      @MachoRaton 3 дні тому +4

      $3,000

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 3 дні тому +6

      @@MachoRaton$10000 I didn’t watch the video but let’s inflate the number

    • @guidopenguin
      @guidopenguin 3 дні тому +15

      If the place was smart, they'd go find any social media from this guy bragging about leaving the $3k tip and use it as evidence on his "intent"

  • @Lee.Willcox
    @Lee.Willcox День тому +15

    I am in England. I was working away and alone. I went for a meal at a restaurant and left a cash tip. I paid by card for me meal. Now this was 30 years ago and I only had a £5 note in my wallet so I left it for the server. She saw it, went mental and shouted "What do you want from me, I am not going to sleep with you". I swear this is 100% true. My dinner bill was £30.00 so @ 10% I should have only left her £3.00. I left and never went back. Way before phones with cameras and social media of any modern sense. I was humiliated in public because I didn't have the correct change for a tip. I will never forget it.

    • @Dbb27
      @Dbb27 15 годин тому

      Unfortunately one encounters mental health problems everywhere we go. Hope at least the meal was good!

    • @anthonyg4671
      @anthonyg4671 13 годин тому +1

      You’re not required to leave a tip in England, how did you come up with 10% 🤔

  • @bbraat
    @bbraat День тому +9

    That 60 day period to contest the credit card charges is to prevent fraud, not to allow the credit card user to change their mind.

    • @russbell6418
      @russbell6418 13 годин тому

      …not to allow the credit card user to commit fraud.

  • @Tanquiamco
    @Tanquiamco 3 дні тому +83

    The word "Asshole " comes to mind.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 3 дні тому

      The which slipped could have hit you, except the leafblower blew you into it

    • @OfSoulAndSin
      @OfSoulAndSin 7 годин тому

      @@the_expidition427
      Are you ok? Have you sought medical attention?!?!?

  • @electricpaper269
    @electricpaper269 3 дні тому +199

    Sounds like an irrevocable gift

    • @sunchips5
      @sunchips5 3 дні тому +3

      Right, regarding a gift. Wrong, regarding its revocability. The gift was successfully revoked and therefore incomplete. Incomplete gifts are judicially unenforceable.

    • @brentfarvors192
      @brentfarvors192 3 дні тому +1

      Needs to be a process where the store can call the CC company to verify; Therby waiving any disputes...

    • @yogibro6442
      @yogibro6442 3 дні тому +5

      Tips out to be seen as payment for services rendered, not a gift. I don't work for tips myself, but I tip extra because of good service, not as a gift. If my coffee cup never gets empty and they are nice, I tip extra for the extra effort.

    • @sunchips5
      @sunchips5 3 дні тому +1

      @yogibro6442 The tip was so extraordinary, that it appears to be a gift and not for services rendered. I doubt the plaintiff will win this lawsuit and should not win this lawsuit in my humble opinion.

    • @GamingArcane
      @GamingArcane 3 дні тому

      @@sunchips5 If they lose, then Jesus boy gonna be banned from every local restaurant.

  • @JosePerez1973
    @JosePerez1973 2 дні тому +3

    If he actually made that promise he should be forced to pay it.

  • @BluntlyRolling
    @BluntlyRolling День тому +4

    My cousin does this kind of tipping. When I observed her doing this "mission work," it looked more like an attempt to garner personal attention than a true blessing for others. I am happy to hear this hypocrite is being sued for his fraud.

    • @FreeAmerican-mm2my
      @FreeAmerican-mm2my 15 годин тому

      Your cousin is crazy. Most people in our area are supportive of the "No Tip for The Devil" mission work.

  • @nicholasmccravy4393
    @nicholasmccravy4393 3 дні тому +34

    If you ask me, I'd say this man is guilty of theft. He gave a gift and then stole it back.

    • @penitent2401
      @penitent2401 2 дні тому +4

      Technically, it's called fraud.

  • @Kurgosh1
    @Kurgosh1 3 дні тому +91

    Sounds like they're not suing him over leaving a huge tip. They're suing him over exploiting his credit card company to steal thousands of dollars from them.

    • @Civ5forlife-td7hy
      @Civ5forlife-td7hy 2 дні тому +3

      but its not money from them. Its money from the waitress

    • @beepbop6697
      @beepbop6697 2 дні тому

      ​@@Civ5forlife-td7hythe restaurant already gave the waitress the money he tipped, and now the guy is using the cc card company to try to reverse the charge back from the restaurant.

    • @guest6423
      @guest6423 2 дні тому +1

      @@Civ5forlife-td7hy It depends on the policy. Many/most establishments pool tips and divide among the staff.

    • @krabysniper
      @krabysniper 2 дні тому +7

      The "tip" was left for one individual, there was no actual cash transacted, just the plastic card, that plastic card is a LEGALLY BINDING IOU when used. It is the individual saying "I will pay this debt, but the credit card company is going to give you the money qnd then I will eventually pay them back. Unless he DID NOT sign the receipt and did not write $3,000 as the tip amount, he is S O L. This person's name and face need to be plastered all over the net, so EVERYONE can see who this piece of 💩 is that would dare mislead and lie to people who served him his food. Hopefully she tells every restraint in town and shares his picture so they can demand CASH ONLY from him. Credit cards CAN BE REFUSED.

    • @Kurgosh1
      @Kurgosh1 2 дні тому +6

      @@Civ5forlife-td7hy The waitress doesn't process credit cards personally. The business does, then (if they're not stealing wages) they pay out the tips to the servers. She has the money. Then the thief charges back. The bank doesn't magically go track down the waitress and take the money from her, they take it back from the business that processed the charge.

  • @johnme7049
    @johnme7049 3 дні тому +2

    May he absolutely get the attention he 'Deserves'

  • @louisrauzi3872
    @louisrauzi3872 3 дні тому

    So appreciate no ads every min. Classy mr Lehto

  • @tidasium1785
    @tidasium1785 3 дні тому +252

    My opinion that was very dishonest and cowardly of the guy. He was trying to be a big shot. He knew he wasn't. Like some of the other poster said that's fraud. I myself have been known to leave decent tips. The biggest one was $250. I may have been drunk at the time but it is what it is. You make a promissory to pay and signing a tip. Is your promissory, your signature, your word to pay that much to that person. Kind of cowardly bro

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 дні тому +22

      Especially since he was specifically asked if he knew and intended to tip 3k

    • @davidb4090
      @davidb4090 3 дні тому +6

      @@B_Bodziak I was about to say the exact same thing.

    • @Glass_Desert
      @Glass_Desert 3 дні тому +8

      You got drunk and someone had a good day because of it. Can't fault you for that.

    • @additudeobx
      @additudeobx 3 дні тому +15

      I've had people dispute a $13 cheesesteak sandwich 20 days after they ate it.

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 3 дні тому

      I change my mind all the time. It's my prerogative.

  • @Foolish188
    @Foolish188 3 дні тому +170

    When I worked in a high end Mom and Pop retail store we had a credit card payment for $5k disputed. The owners had already paid the artist. The credit card company wouldn't let the owners contact the customer to find out what the problem was. Turns out that it was a joint husband and wife credit card, and the wife had bought a birthday present for her husband, a couple of months before his birthday. And he disputed it without talking to his wife.

    • @tmduke55221
      @tmduke55221 3 дні тому +17

      What happened you can’t leave us hanging like that.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 дні тому +7

      Wow. What happened?

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos 3 дні тому +17

      @@B_Bodziak Considering the information there, it's probably solved.
      It is, also, kind of understandable there, a 5k charge on my card that I didn't recognize, especially if the wife doesn't realize he's doing that and isn't talking about the purchase.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf 3 дні тому +9

      @@B_Bodziak Having dealt with credit card companies before, the retail store is out the $5k.

    • @Poppagee69
      @Poppagee69 3 дні тому +4

      Figured she would service his other tip in return as a thankyou that backfired on him .

  • @user-hu1um2xk5h
    @user-hu1um2xk5h 3 дні тому +1

    Wow. Promissory Estoppel. Learn something new everyday. Today I feel like I'm learning mountains of info.

  • @tech4life884
    @tech4life884 День тому +3

    This restaurant should sue after the customer canceled the tip after leaving. It's criminal.

  • @NickBush24
    @NickBush24 3 дні тому +321

    Credit Card Fraud for Jesus

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 3 дні тому

      Anything and everything “for Jesus” seems to be fraud.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 дні тому

      ​@@moonshoes11 yup, because religions are nothing more than protection money extortion fraud crime syndicates.

    • @E.Carrillo
      @E.Carrillo 3 дні тому +7

      Not for Jesus, just fraud!

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 3 дні тому

      @@NickBush24
      It seems anything for “Jesus” is fraud.

    • @KenLieck
      @KenLieck 3 дні тому +20

      @@E.Carrillo He did in Jesus' name. Nobody's saying that Jesus was complicit in the act! In fact, it would just be one in a long string of illegal/immortal actions performed by people falsely claiming to have Jesus' approval.

  • @Batmann_
    @Batmann_ 3 дні тому +21

    "go ahead and sue me" is what people say when they think that either, the other person actually won't, and/or that the other person does not have sufficient grounds to win.

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому +1

      You don't say "sue me" when you're doing the right thing.

  • @plenumshamu4037
    @plenumshamu4037 День тому +1

    A tipping point about the practice of tipping, truly.

  • @paulaswaim8434
    @paulaswaim8434 День тому

    Super interesting case. Thanks for explaining it Steve.

  • @Fifth_Entertainment
    @Fifth_Entertainment 3 дні тому +19

    The restaurant is also out processing fee that is usually 2-3%.

    • @fredfinger7092
      @fredfinger7092 3 дні тому +3

      Interesting point that I, for one, had not thought about...

    • @athomasw1
      @athomasw1 3 дні тому

      No, when a charge is reversed, so is the processing fee.

    • @Fifth_Entertainment
      @Fifth_Entertainment 3 дні тому +3

      @athomasw1 In event of charge back, vendor is charged anywhere from $20-$100 by merchant services/credit card issuer. And they don't get the original processing fee back. Source: happen to my business.

  • @rjtumble
    @rjtumble 3 дні тому +111

    Something tells me the bill came in, the wife saw it and said (less kindly) “WTF did you do?, we’re not paying that”, he then “decided” to dispute the charge.

    • @michaelwilkening8542
      @michaelwilkening8542 3 дні тому +19

      His wife probably thought the payment was for the waitress servicing his "tip".

    • @rjtumble
      @rjtumble 3 дні тому +2

      @@michaelwilkening8542 Ha! Probably right -

    • @silverhammer7779
      @silverhammer7779 3 дні тому +2

      Most likely scenario.

  • @MrAlexmbat
    @MrAlexmbat 3 дні тому +2

    Active Knowledge that you initially authorized the payment and claiming 10.4 or Fraud reason code to your bank is ILLEGAL.

  • @Foolish188
    @Foolish188 3 дні тому +51

    Waiting for this one, ever since I saw this headline.

    • @user-km3pk1pu7h
      @user-km3pk1pu7h 3 дні тому

      Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

  • @StarATL
    @StarATL 3 дні тому +27

    Also, employers are required to pay the government employer SS on customer tips as if it was regular pay.

    • @whereisyourhumanity7557
      @whereisyourhumanity7557 2 дні тому +1

      That sucks. The gov't sticks it's hand in every pocket.

    • @hoolihanohoolihan1011
      @hoolihanohoolihan1011 2 дні тому +1

      This has nothing to do with any of it, but congrats on trying to sound smart

    • @StarATL
      @StarATL 2 дні тому +5

      @@hoolihanohoolihan1011 it’s a part of the equation. I’m having to pay taxes on those cash tips that the staff reports or receives via credit card. A 3000 tip would also cost me not only the credit card charge, but also an additional 6.2%, or close to $200. Do your homework before commenting.

  • @albertk5572
    @albertk5572 14 годин тому

    Such a Relevant content! As there are many who try to look good both in cyber space and real life, Sadly they’ve forgotten their Ten Commandments and use legal or unethical loopholes to break their promise and get a kick out of feeling smarter than their victims! Thank you ❤

  • @ColtonRMagby
    @ColtonRMagby 3 дні тому +2

    Ben's next to the LAW4NYC plate. That man needs to be arrested for fraud.

  • @TSteffi
    @TSteffi 3 дні тому +51

    Hit the keyboard with my elbow and make a lawsuit fall out of my Computer😂

    • @JamesQMurphy
      @JamesQMurphy 3 дні тому +3

      That's quite a flex 💪😂

    • @qualicumwilson5168
      @qualicumwilson5168 3 дні тому

      AKA "thin elbow syndrome"

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 3 дні тому

      @@JamesQMurphy Agreed, a little too much of a flex. I've found the opposite to be true-lawyers try to scare people and threaten to sue them when they have zero case. They're fishing for settlement.

  • @calebfielding6352
    @calebfielding6352 3 дні тому +80

    This guy sounds like a troll. Just someone who likes to stir up trouble, the bigger the better. Hope he gets sued to oblivian.

    • @Michaeljack81sk
      @Michaeljack81sk 3 дні тому +9

      I would not be remotely surprised if he turns out to be a Social Media "Prankster"

    • @jackabsolute5525
      @jackabsolute5525 3 дні тому +2

      For 3000? Nah, the amount is too small. It has more of a chance that it goes to and wins in small claims.

  • @windywednesday4166
    @windywednesday4166 3 дні тому

    "Promissory estoppel"... new word! ❤😂 thanks, Steve.

  • @Rational_thinker_212
    @Rational_thinker_212 12 годин тому +2

    I hope that one day we will look back on this time in history with disgust and wonder how absolute self-centered, narcissism, and the whiney "me" culture was the dominate behavior.

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere 3 дні тому +71

    'Tips for Jesus' makes me think he was told by his tax preparer that he couldn't include this 3k in his itemized deductions for tithing, which is deductible.

    • @mikam8801
      @mikam8801 3 дні тому +9

      Spend $2100 to save $900. How does that make sense? (Assuming 30% bracket)

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 дні тому

      @@mikam8801 It can make sense if he's still at least somewhat generous and/or enjoys likes he might get if he posts about this on social media, but he isn't so generous that he would be willing to pay a sum that large 100% out of his own pocket (possibly after some reflection).

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN 3 дні тому

      ​​@@mikam8801think about the subject matter. The guy in the story is probably not a person that thinks rationally.

  • @Denvermorgan2000
    @Denvermorgan2000 3 дні тому +9

    I’m glad they didn’t take it from the waitress.😊

  • @OregonMike
    @OregonMike 3 дні тому

    Lol, Steve throwing "elbows" 🤣💪💪💪

  • @Khaltazar
    @Khaltazar 2 дні тому +2

    I hope they sue for double plus legal fees.

  • @kitsuneneko2567
    @kitsuneneko2567 3 дні тому +51

    How much you wanna bet his wife told him to take it back or else...

    • @lavenderkisses9461
      @lavenderkisses9461 2 дні тому +1

      Let’s not drag her into this without knowing more. He sounds like a jerk on his own. Tipping generously based on social media 🙄🙄

  • @katnoto8993
    @katnoto8993 3 дні тому +16

    If someone left a $3k tip in my restaurant, for anything less than a wedding reception, id refuse it. This is exactly why. Anything more than a hundred or two (which is already very generous and would still be very appreciated) is either doing it for the wrong reasond or possobly not in the right mind. Unless your diner is dropping $3k on meals and drinks, a $13 meal with a $3k tip is just blinding red flags

    • @Gamesso1slO0l
      @Gamesso1slO0l 3 дні тому +4

      depends, if the person walks out to a very expensive car, it known to be wealthy etc, then 3k may be on the up and up

    • @arribaficationwineho32
      @arribaficationwineho32 3 дні тому +1

      Take it and allow the owner to work it out. Be ready to return most of it if thst is how it plays out

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 3 дні тому

      Well it depends on how rich the person is leaving the tip, if it's Bill Gates, or Taylor Swift or some other billionaire then $3k is nothing to them and the tip amount is believable

    • @othellewis8931
      @othellewis8931 3 дні тому +1

      I think there might be other issues here as well. The waitress must pay taxes on the 3000.00 because the tip is electronic and traceable. The restaurant has to report that on the waitresses w2s. It will be worse if the restaurant is one where they only pay so much an hour and you make the rest up in tips.

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому +1

      Which is why the manager discussed it with him.

  • @bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb77
    @bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb77 3 дні тому

    i love your vids they are perfect short intro then right to the point with great stories i love it perfect formula

  • @sinisterdesign
    @sinisterdesign 2 дні тому +3

    That porch-painting hypothetical is simply an oral contract: there's offer, acceptance, and full performance by one of the parties. No need for promissory estoppel there. A more realistic promissory estoppel situation would be something like:
    A homeowner messages a contractor online and says, "If you paint my porch tomorrow, I'll pay you $400"; the contractor decides to forego a different job he was already scheduled to do in order to take on this new job. The next day, he travels two hours to reach the man, ready to do the work; however, the man now says, "I changed my mind." The contractor never formally accepted the offer, but he relied on the homeowner's promise to his detriment (by forgoing the existing job and shelling out for travel expenses). That's a promissory estoppel situation.

  • @GWNorth-db8vn
    @GWNorth-db8vn 3 дні тому +8

    Back in the early days of credit cards, you had to phone and get approval from the company for any transaction over 50 bucks. They gave you a confirmation number and it was their problem from there.

  • @dereksmith1803
    @dereksmith1803 3 дні тому +8

    Not only is the restaurant out the $3k that they paid to the waitress, but since it was wages/tips earned, they also are out the income taxes that they had to pay on that large amount. So, it actually cost them substantially more than the $3k and they should be suing for that as well.

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому +1

      They can get the money back from the waitress and adjust the tax payment.
      But they won't have to. They're going to win this one easy.

  • @mikezupancic2182
    @mikezupancic2182 2 дні тому

    I can get a lawsuit to fall out of my computer. Best Lehto line to date. 😂

  • @thomaswburkhart
    @thomaswburkhart 2 дні тому

    you had me at the title ngl

  • @ronw59
    @ronw59 3 дні тому +33

    I seldom pay eatery bills with plastic, but if & when I do, I always pay the tips in cash.

    • @fredfinger7092
      @fredfinger7092 3 дні тому +2

      I'm not saying that is a bad idea. But I am saying, I never have any cash on me these days.

    • @notdoingsogood2024
      @notdoingsogood2024 3 дні тому +5

      As a former server, it is the way. Thanks ronw59 for tipping properly.

    • @leehanson1416
      @leehanson1416 3 дні тому

      @@fredfinger7092 You really have no reason to believe that the server will get the whole tip, or any part of it. There's also a fee for processing the charge, and it's a percentage that the server doesn't get, yet the amount of the tip is reported income.

    • @ronw59
      @ronw59 3 дні тому +1

      @@notdoingsogood2024 If the server wants to split the tip with other staff, kitchen, busboys, etc., it's their business. But I don't want a paper trail that could come back to bite the server or that management feels they are entitled to a share of.

    • @normbograham
      @normbograham 3 дні тому

      I did this always, until a pizza place added a tip after the fact, then I stopped. $30 for two slices of pizza, was a bit off. I didnt bother to dispute, I just never went back.

  • @MdbCoin
    @MdbCoin 3 дні тому +13

    If I was a restaurant owner I would never accept a tip that large on a credit card. Cash only if you want to do something like that.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 3 дні тому +2

      EXACTLY!!! That amount is a GIFT, NOT A TIP!!!

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 3 дні тому +2

      As a vendor to the industry, I agree. In fact, most Point of Sale systems have an option to limit a tip percentage, more to prevent fraud. Also, when someone leaves a tip that big, the credit card fees become a real thing. The tip may be $3k, but the restaurant is only getting $2900.

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 дні тому

      It could just be gift regret. In the heat of the moment of feeling generous you do something that isn't financially sensible, and then later when the high wears off you start to have regret. I have done something similar at Christmas time.

    • @carolperdue7534
      @carolperdue7534 2 дні тому

      @@dragons_red Did you go and demand people give you back the gifts?

    • @carolperdue7534
      @carolperdue7534 2 дні тому

      I agree. Its unfortunate because I've heard of the group that does these large tips. Leave it to the one bad apple to spoil it for everyone else.

  • @GeeTrieste
    @GeeTrieste 13 годин тому +2

    Customer wasn't sued over huge tip. Customer was sued for stealing back the huge tip.

  • @Nickrioblanco1
    @Nickrioblanco1 3 дні тому +19

    This guy takes the prize for "The Biggest Jerk Ever"!

    • @davidg3944
      @davidg3944 3 дні тому +2

      Nah, we've had much worse. A recent US president comes to mind...

    • @user-km3pk1pu7h
      @user-km3pk1pu7h 3 дні тому

      Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

  • @booterone1
    @booterone1 3 дні тому +12

    Steve always proves there is always more to the story than the headline.

    • @user-km3pk1pu7h
      @user-km3pk1pu7h 3 дні тому

      Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

  • @fightfan7993
    @fightfan7993 2 дні тому

    You are so interesting in the way you discribe your cases

  • @JoeOtaku
    @JoeOtaku 3 дні тому +2

    ...so he's going to hell? 😂

  • @darrennew8211
    @darrennew8211 3 дні тому +106

    This seems like the least disputable charge ever. Reg E only lets you dispute charges you didn't authorize.

    • @bcubed72
      @bcubed72 3 дні тому +10

      Who's Reggie?

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 3 дні тому +14

      @@bcubed72 Regulation E is the federal laws that regulate how credit cards can work.

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 3 дні тому

      Lol, born yesterday huh? Go to ANY pay site like twitch and see that this happens a thousand times a day.

    • @solandri69
      @solandri69 3 дні тому

      He was probably hoping to take advantage of the way tips are added to credit card charges. They give him a bill for $13, and he hands them his credit card. They run the credit card for $13, print a receipt, and hand it back to him. He writes $3000 as a tip and a total of $3013, and leaves. The restaurant then takes the receipt, reads how much tip he added, and modifies the credit card charge (similar to issuing a refund) from $13 to $3013.
      If he calls his credit card and disputes the charge, he can claim he didn't leave a tip. And the restaurant staff must have written in the $3k tip themselves. It's plausible because tips are added to the bill after the customer has left. So if he'd left those blank, the restaurant could have written in $3k as the tip and add "30" in front of the 13 for the total. And he can claim the restaurant is lying when they said they confirmed with him multiple times that he meant to tip $3k.
      This is why if you leave a tip, it's important to write a $ sign before the numbers. And kudos to the restaurant for fronting the $3k shortfall while they sue, instead of making the waitress give it back.

    • @jeaniebird999
      @jeaniebird999 3 дні тому +4

      My aunt was scammed and her CC company told her it was her tough luck because she gave it to them willingly.

  • @RyshusMojo1
    @RyshusMojo1 3 дні тому +19

    "Hey, I'm through painting. By the way, that's a Mercedes, not a Porch."
    A few will know...

  • @MrNitestorm1
    @MrNitestorm1 16 годин тому +1

    Anyone that feels the need to document a good deed, seriously needs mental help

  • @OhFFS
    @OhFFS 2 дні тому +2

    I’d argue, that he did in fact sign a promissory note when he signed that CC receipt.

    • @undrhil
      @undrhil 2 дні тому

      But it's so easy to go in afterwards and add zeros. It's not like those receipts are made of carbon copy of or something. Now, if he paid at the register and entered that amount then yeah you are correct.

  • @jimmybutler1379
    @jimmybutler1379 3 дні тому +3

    WRITTEN PROMISERY NOTE EVEN IF BY CREDIT CARD SIGNED !...

  • @nathanaelstricker9056
    @nathanaelstricker9056 3 дні тому +9

    This actually happened at my restaurant 3 weeks ago. 😂
    Sadly, the server ended up paying $700 back to the restaurant.

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 3 дні тому +4

      I give this restaurant much respect for not doing that or accepting the gofundme. They're holding the appropriate party accountable.

    • @nathanaelstricker9056
      @nathanaelstricker9056 3 дні тому

      @@kevinmach730 100% agreed!
      This is totally a concession to being nosey, but I do wonder what made this guy go back on his word.

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 3 дні тому +2

      @@nathanaelstricker9056 You aren't the only one that is curious. An extremely shitty thing to do either way, when they literally follow you out to the parking lot to ask you if you meant to leave a tip that large!

    • @rigorocks23
      @rigorocks23 2 дні тому

      you shouldn't work there anymore with that kind of leadership. they're just as bad as this guy in the article

    • @sublimeade
      @sublimeade 14 годин тому

      Don't they pay taxes on that tip?
      So didnt she end up losing money on the deal

  • @CoachellaGuy
    @CoachellaGuy 3 дні тому

    Thoughts and prayers!

  • @justoldog
    @justoldog 11 годин тому +1

    When all is said and done, that meal will be the most expensive he ever bought.

  • @hardyharr1361
    @hardyharr1361 3 дні тому +11

    Promissory estoppel was from a time when people had integrity.

    • @user-km3pk1pu7h
      @user-km3pk1pu7h 3 дні тому +1

      Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

    • @SoManyRandomRamblings
      @SoManyRandomRamblings 3 дні тому

      ​@@user-km3pk1pu7h because that could lead to actual justice, and they can't possibly allow that. /s

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому

      ​@@user-km3pk1pu7hWho says you can't? But you'll have to explain how you believed them when they said they would do something, when you know they don't have the power to do that thing alone and can't make promises that others will go along with them.
      I.e. their promises are empty by default. The promises are rhetoric designed to imply that they agree with your goals. And you can't expect a result. So there's no actual promise made, you're just imagining there was. You're deluded, not defrauded. So there's nothing to sue over, even if they end up voting the other way every time.
      But their lawyer might not be this bright, so you might try. Be a heck of a thing if you won.

  • @AAAA-o7v
    @AAAA-o7v 3 дні тому +19

    Ben standing on end at right side of bookcase in front of New York license plate

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому

      Is that a thing? Like the stuffed animal at Trader Joe's?

  • @ljmeyerful
    @ljmeyerful 2 дні тому

    “You understand I could hit my keyboard with my elbow and get a lawsuit to fall out of my computer.”
    Love it!

  • @davemerrill4600
    @davemerrill4600 3 дні тому

    This is actually quite helpful for me, a General Contractor who has been burnt by owners wanting to pay for an extra service while were there and then say they never said to do that work.
    Promissory estoppel is a legal doctrine in contract law that allows a plaintiff to recover damages from a defendant even if there is no contract. It's an alternative to a breach of contract claim that prevents a party from going back on a promise that another party relied on to their detriment.
    Thank you Steve!

  • @OptimiSkeptic
    @OptimiSkeptic 3 дні тому +31

    "Love your neighbor less than you love your money. Love the credit card debt your god with all your passion, your paycheck, and your greed."

    • @thads6192
      @thads6192 3 дні тому +3

      I could be mistaken but I believe that’s a direct quote from 1 Satan 1-2

    • @raeraebadfingers
      @raeraebadfingers 3 дні тому +2

      ​@@thads6192 😂😂

    • @jonpopelka
      @jonpopelka 3 дні тому +3

      ​@@thads6192Satan wouldn't have disputed the charge.

    • @OptimiSkeptic
      @OptimiSkeptic 3 дні тому +2

      @@jonpopelka Good point! He would just ignore the bill when it came in.

    • @kellybrandon1179
      @kellybrandon1179 3 дні тому +1

      Heavy

  • @AllenKrell
    @AllenKrell 3 дні тому +4

    Reflects one of the many challenges of credit card agreements businesses are forced to sign.

  • @Thatonedude917
    @Thatonedude917 2 дні тому +1

    It's mad to me that they can just rip the funds from your bank account with a chargeback, and that isn't theft

  • @bryontology1754
    @bryontology1754 2 дні тому

    I agree that, in this case, your promissory estoppel analysis is applicable. Homeowner's promise in the hypothetical to pay Worker four hundred dollars to paint his porch is an example of a unilateral contract (a promise in exchange for performance).

  • @phillunder316
    @phillunder316 3 дні тому +5

    Don't forget that the customer signed the merchant's copy of the receipt.

    • @williamhaynes7089
      @williamhaynes7089 2 дні тому

      probably made an unreadable signature that didn't match id

  • @Mouserjan0222
    @Mouserjan0222 3 дні тому +62

    if they ran out and asked him if this was what he wanted to do and he said yes then he's SOL not a mistake Jesus would never take back a tip....

    • @KenLieck
      @KenLieck 3 дні тому +2

      That's what's sad -- they did their due diligence to preclude this result from coming about, yet they still got the poop end of the stick. The guy must think "SOL" shines out of his butt!

    • @user-fp1eh7ze1e
      @user-fp1eh7ze1e 3 дні тому +1

      It might come down to if the restaurant can prove that he authorized & confirmed the charge .

    • @user-km3pk1pu7h
      @user-km3pk1pu7h 3 дні тому +1

      And you're taking their word that they actually did it?

    • @Mouserjan0222
      @Mouserjan0222 3 дні тому

      @@KenLieck Ok maybe he meant $30.00 and the comma was in the wrong space he could argue that MAYBE.......

    • @KenLieck
      @KenLieck 3 дні тому

      @@Mouserjan0222 That was my first thought before the story continued to state that they verified his intent etc.

  • @mrsteresa1999
    @mrsteresa1999 3 дні тому

    Hi Steve hope you're having a good Wednesday

  • @larrymotuz6600
    @larrymotuz6600 3 дні тому +10

    How disgusting that 'tipper' was, hurting others in this way.

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 3 дні тому +19

    Steve, its not a porch, its a Porsche! And there was enough paint left over that I painted the Ferrari too!

    • @My-Pal-Hal
      @My-Pal-Hal 3 дні тому +7

      That's not how the joke goes 😂
      They were supposed to paint the porch. But when the people got back, they said they got the painting done.
      Oh, and by the way, that's not a porch, that's a BMW 🤣
      It's a Mexican contractors joke, so the accent helps 👍
      ... Least that's how I remember it from 5-6 decades ago

    • @ronw59
      @ronw59 3 дні тому +4

      Old joke, but still funny!

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 3 дні тому +1

      I wouldn’t want anyone to do a $400 paint job on my Porsche, assuming I had one.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL 3 дні тому +1

      How do you paint a borch?

    • @thevoiceofreason8240
      @thevoiceofreason8240 3 дні тому +3

      @@genxx2724 You can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a Porsche.

  • @lilmike2710
    @lilmike2710 3 дні тому +6

    I suspect that the generous man is married to a resentful Karen.

  • @jessicaolson490
    @jessicaolson490 3 дні тому

    Yay new video!!!

  • @colettenewton1959
    @colettenewton1959 День тому

    I was taught that promissory estoppel was like encouraging someone to climb out on a branch and then sawing the branch behind them.

  • @fredfinger7092
    @fredfinger7092 3 дні тому +28

    Please. When I tip 35% my credit card issuer messages me to confirm it. No way they didn't check with him on that amount. How can he dispute that charge? What a piece of excrement.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 3 дні тому +7

      It very much depends on card issuer

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 3 дні тому +2

      So something like this happened to my sister once turned out her card had been hacked. She was too nice a person to take away the tip but that can happen and I think if the tip had been that much my sister would have disputed it.

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 3 дні тому +1

      They text you right? You don't have to respond. You have until 30 or 60 days after your statement arrives to dispute anything.

    • @fredfinger7092
      @fredfinger7092 2 дні тому

      @@blairhoughton7918 Depends on the card. One texts me right away, and I have to reply to authorize it. Another one emails me when the charge comes through (usually a day to three later). The email says, not an exact quote, "if you intended to pay this amount, you do not need to take any action. If you did not intend to or this is not your transaction, please reply." This is when they consider something "unusual" like a large tip or a place far from my address. For a "normal" transaction they don't do it, so in that case I would assume your time frame would apply.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 День тому

      @@blairhoughton7918
      I thought you only had 30 days to dispute a charge?

  • @uplinktruck
    @uplinktruck 3 дні тому +17

    "I can hit my keyboard with my elbow and a lawsuit will fall out." LOL!

    • @aday1637
      @aday1637 3 дні тому

      What are 500 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? Answer: A start.