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  • @mithilbhoras5951
    @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +160

    Atheists cannot give evidence that God doesn't exist. Cool 👍Now Muslims need to give evidence that Gods like Thor, Krishna, Shankar, Teapot and Spaghetti Monster don't exist. He wants to set the same standard? Let's have that then 🙂

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому +3

      God is all powerful and not limited by anything.

    • @NoLove179
      @NoLove179 Рік тому +12

      Sunni Tunni bhai bhai😅😅😅

    • @gurnoorsingh2214
      @gurnoorsingh2214 Рік тому +26

      ​@@gamovic7786 you realise that is a claim made by billions of idiots till now and no one has been able to demonstrate it?

    • @nil.nilesh56
      @nil.nilesh56 Рік тому +9

      ​​@@gamovic7786 sab unlimited hi mante h...jaise tumko wo limited lgte h waise tumhare Allah v h limited unke anusar 😅

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому +4

      @@gurnoorsingh2214 what is the demonstration that you need? This universe is sufficient. Creator is recognised by his creation.

  • @kevalshankershreyas9672
    @kevalshankershreyas9672 Рік тому +231

    This is why I pay for the internet 🍿🍿

    • @kevalshankershreyas9672
      @kevalshankershreyas9672 10 місяців тому +2

      @@sandy17oct you need to pay for the internet to download anything 😏

    • @shibamcoss
      @shibamcoss 9 місяців тому +1

      Same bro..

    • @RedRebel008
      @RedRebel008 8 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @retro-basic
      @retro-basic 7 місяців тому +1

      what a waste of money

    • @retro-basic
      @retro-basic 6 місяців тому

      paisa barbaad panch**

  • @minhajahmed2391
    @minhajahmed2391 Рік тому +76

    Hello Vimoh sir.
    I wanted to express my sincere appreciation for your compelling and articulate debunking of his arguments. your ability to present your thoughts in such a clear and concise manner has not only deepened my understanding but also brought a new perspective to the discussion. I'm genuinely grateful to have been introduced to your work, as your thoughtful insights have been both enlightening and thought-provoking.

  • @Aalokborso
    @Aalokborso Рік тому +216

    Smile2 need a proper class on fallacies by our fallacy professor Pranav (science is dope).

    • @xboobgenius
      @xboobgenius Рік тому +8

      haha yess

    • @ItsShershahveere
      @ItsShershahveere Рік тому +2

      True that, this mf is fallacious af

    • @sunilsabat-0483
      @sunilsabat-0483 Рік тому

      ​@@xboobgeniusscience is dope gud gobar karega last time ki tarah simple hindi/urdu word ka meaning nahi pata use mashoor simple word ka meaning nahi pata use

    • @rohitghumare7515
      @rohitghumare7515 Рік тому +2

      Pranav is good but pranav ki bhi Fat jati h Ms ke against, understandable though

    • @royale178
      @royale178 Рік тому +7

      @@rohitghumare7515 Ms kon

  • @RadicalMedico
    @RadicalMedico Рік тому +65

    Not Atheist, but love the arguments! very civil debate too!

  • @vaibhavaher4244
    @vaibhavaher4244 Рік тому +68

    'Main Chinese samosa nahi hun' can be a great bio.

  • @Lovelace-j1k
    @Lovelace-j1k 9 місяців тому +35

    The best part of atheism is that you will never feel failure in a debate with theist 😂

  • @mithilbhoras5951
    @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +96

    In courts when you are acquitted from a crime, it doesn't suddenly mean you didn't commit the crime in reality. There just wasn't enough evidence or proper arguments to convince the judge. Which is why the verdict is "Not Guilty" instead of "Innocent". Similarly, rejecting a claim doesn't automatically mean that you hold the opposite of that claim true. Smile2Jannah, I think, has trouble understanding this. Which is why we are going in circles pointing fingers to each other.

    • @storyteller9445
      @storyteller9445 Рік тому

      Haan to agar ap opposite me nahi ho to us waqt AP agnostic position me rahoge na ki atheist Wale position me . Correct me if I m wrong

    • @mithilbhoras5951
      @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +1

      @@storyteller9445 You can hold both positions at the same time. Agnosticism is about KNOWLEDGE: "I don't have evidence so I don't KNOW". And Atheism is about BELIEF: "I don't have evidence so I won't BELIEVE". Agnostic Atheism essentially is: "I don't know and I don't believe". There are also Agnostic Theists that say "I don't know but I still believe". Since both are about different things, they aren't oxymoronic. Again, "Not Believing in God" =/= "Believing that God doesn't exist" (Just like how Not Guilty =/= Innocent).

    • @gamesong6600
      @gamesong6600 10 місяців тому

      👍

    • @storyteller9445
      @storyteller9445 10 місяців тому

      @@mithilbhoras5951 belief can't be logical whether it's theism or atheism .

    • @spuriusscapula4829
      @spuriusscapula4829 8 місяців тому

      There are infinite possible imaginary claims. It is pointless to say "we do not know if they exist". It's alright to say (as far as we know) they do not exist. Can't go around chasing each one of those infinite claims.

  • @bhupendr.choudhary123
    @bhupendr.choudhary123 Рік тому +106

    Using science by scientific equipments and abusing science is an act of science 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

    • @parasxd6462
      @parasxd6462 11 місяців тому +10

      soon people are going to make videos on why science is unscientific

    • @bhupendr.choudhary123
      @bhupendr.choudhary123 11 місяців тому +2

      @@parasxd6462 👍👍👍😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍♥️♥️

    • @ManojKumar-ny5rg
      @ManojKumar-ny5rg 3 місяці тому

      @@parasxd6462 that too using scientific means (though unsuccessfully).🤣

  • @mithilbhoras5951
    @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +40

    The frame of reference argument is similar to Meno's Paradox in Plato's dialog of Meno: "If you know what you're looking for, inquiry is unnecessary. If you don't know what you're looking for, inquiry is impossible. Therefore, inquiry is either unnecessary or impossible." It is logically impossible to find something you if you do not even know what it is you are finding. Even if you find it, you won't know that is that thing you have been searching for.

    • @ankitjain3760
      @ankitjain3760 Рік тому +6

      Bhai samaj nahi aaya but Sunkar accha laga.

    • @a_simple_atheist
      @a_simple_atheist Рік тому

      This statements directly proves that the theistic argument : 'provide proof for the non existence of god', is illogical.

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

    • @hogriderhogw1696
      @hogriderhogw1696 Рік тому

      ​@@ankitjain3760
      If we don't know X, we can't learn about X, since we have no way of knowing whether a new piece of information is or is not true information about X.
      If we do know X, we can't learn about X, since we already know X.
      So we can't learn about X.

    • @mithilbhoras5951
      @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +1

      @@ankitjain3760 Let's say you want to find X. But you have no idea what X is. So how will you find it? And if you do find X, how will you know it is X since you don't know what X is? That's it.

  • @himanshuagrawal4698
    @himanshuagrawal4698 Рік тому +63

    I wonder will all people go to hell for not following religions before it was invented?

    • @InfluxENC
      @InfluxENC Рік тому +5

      Haha

    • @pritammehta7770
      @pritammehta7770 Рік тому +10

      Let Me Tell you the Answer.
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      .Dont Ask Questions Thats it.
      I hope you will understand.:D

    • @InfluxENC
      @InfluxENC Рік тому

      @@pritammehta7770 religion is slavery

    • @thanveermohammed1997
      @thanveermohammed1997 Рік тому

      And the religion to be followed by children of Adam was given to them through prophet Adam (PBUH) from whom all humanity came .

    • @a_simple_atheist
      @a_simple_atheist Рік тому +17

      ​@@thanveermohammed1997 Humanity came very very early to that. Before the origin of Islam or the abrahamic faiths.
      We have scientifically tested and predictable archeological evidence for that.

  • @theaditxys
    @theaditxys 11 місяців тому +44

    Before:-smile to jannah
    Now:-crying to jannah

  • @sarthakgothalyan8952
    @sarthakgothalyan8952 Рік тому +16

    My happiness is immeasurable and my day is flourishing.

  • @SameersQuestForGod8
    @SameersQuestForGod8 Рік тому +60

    He don’t even know that all Pro-God arguments already has Counter Arguments.

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

    • @aveshdiamond6763
      @aveshdiamond6763 11 місяців тому

      And that counter argument also has argument it's endless cycle

    • @SameersQuestForGod8
      @SameersQuestForGod8 11 місяців тому +1

      @@aveshdiamond6763 No they never justified why Universe as a whole is Contingent, why that independent cause is “Being”. And many other objections.

    • @anuragyadav8088
      @anuragyadav8088 8 місяців тому +1

      @aveshdiamond6763 its not an endless cycle..i shut up all the religious people withing 10 to 15 minutes but they never stop believing in their ideology..so it doesnt mean if u have great arguments or not ..cuz they will not accept it..even if they cant answer

  • @arpitmathur4232
    @arpitmathur4232 Рік тому +33

    please have live debate already. would love it.

    • @johnconstantine8574
      @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +15

      He does not even debate against sahil

    • @goodkarma782
      @goodkarma782 Рік тому +14

      smile2 nai ayega... sabko pata hai. So this is the most that we can get... I just hope vimoh doesn't stop making these reactions as it can, sometimes, feel like going in circles.

    • @kiranraavi4240
      @kiranraavi4240 Рік тому +15

      live debates are entertainemnt not educative. This format is far better to get both sides clear thoughts imo

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому +3

      ​@@kiranraavi4240true, Jin logo ko debate wrestling match jaisa lgta hai wahi log debate ki demand karte hai.

    • @KaifShaikhTaufiq
      @KaifShaikhTaufiq Рік тому +2

      He does in person live debates in london speakers conner and you think he won’t come live here 🤣,
      good
      If there’s a plan and for greater benefit i think brother Zeehan Will come إِنْ شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ ( In Sha Allah )

  • @explainous
    @explainous Рік тому +37

    Instead of live debates, I would love this kind of back and forth between atheists and theists. Here I see the point of views clearly and people also remain respectable because they take their time to form their best argument. Also there is not cutting each other mid sentence and prevent the other person from talking. I really really appreciate how you kept the reaction really respectable and humble. You never said anything reactionary which I am very sure he was looking for. I also request you to keep your future reactions like this only, otherwise they will immediately play the victim card and twist the narrative into islamophobia.

    • @ItsShershahveere
      @ItsShershahveere Рік тому +2

      💯

    • @kiranraavi4240
      @kiranraavi4240 Рік тому +5

      True. I agree that modern debate culture is basically become useless for anything except growing social media reach. Also, the better wordsmith tends to do well, rather than the better argument or line of thought. And they frequently side track to get off topic

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому

      Yup

  • @dixitparmar6918
    @dixitparmar6918 Рік тому +11

    Maine kai baar apne dosto ko yhi cheez smjhane ki koshish ki hai ..but smjha nhi pa rha tha ...but now I can make them understand, thnx 2 u

  • @himanshuagrawal4698
    @himanshuagrawal4698 Рік тому +16

    the inception of reactions

  • @satyasaranpatra
    @satyasaranpatra Рік тому +11

    This was damn interesting to watch

  • @SuyogOnkar
    @SuyogOnkar Рік тому +99

    Amazon call was too hilarious 😂

    • @yenaremadun7184
      @yenaremadun7184 Рік тому

      There's a meme on this delivery issue. The customer uploads the pics of his empty hands🫴🫳 depicting how stupid the question from support team is😂

    • @mithilbhoras5951
      @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому

      It's funny that apologists do the exact same thing when it comes to other religion. And we are the irrational ones lol

    • @alfarazkhan6737
      @alfarazkhan6737 Рік тому +1

      Shampoo wala too

    • @alfarazkhan6737
      @alfarazkhan6737 Рік тому

      Shampoo wala too

    • @alfarazkhan6737
      @alfarazkhan6737 Рік тому

      Shampoo wala too

  • @drjee
    @drjee 11 місяців тому +3

    Mr Vimoh, I wish folks could could have a fraction of your poise and calm. This was my first video. I'm hooked. Am a senior citizen, but can learn a lot from you. Bless you

  • @ZakhmiParinda108
    @ZakhmiParinda108 Рік тому +19

    The kind of patience you have is phenominal❤

    • @bhadreswar786
      @bhadreswar786 Рік тому +1

      Because he already has studied very good arguments.

  • @GoodMorning-si6lr
    @GoodMorning-si6lr Рік тому +12

    Vimoh sir aap ki bato se kuch na kuch seekhne ko milta hai❤

  • @akhikaif
    @akhikaif 11 місяців тому +6

    if Naruto was written around 1500-2000 years ago, people would also make it into a religion.

  • @chiranjeevsaini2150
    @chiranjeevsaini2150 Рік тому +9

    Dark Matter: Frame of Reference: Observational Cosmology
    Explanation: Dark matter is inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, such as galaxies and galaxy clusters. The frame of reference is the large-scale structure of the universe and the observed motions of galaxies. Dark matter does not emit, absorb, or reflect light, making it challenging to detect directly.
    Dark Energy: Frame of Reference: Cosmic Expansion
    Explanation: Dark energy is a hypothetical form of energy that may explain the observed accelerated expansion of the universe. The frame of reference here is the large-scale geometry of spacetime. Dark energy is thought to exert a negative pressure, contributing to the repulsive force countering gravity and driving the accelerated expansion.

  • @Anon999-qk3ue
    @Anon999-qk3ue Рік тому +8

    thanks for being direct and to the point. Good discussion

  • @kiranraavi4240
    @kiranraavi4240 Рік тому +9

    Great discussion man, points have been put clearly and respectfully.

  • @mithilbhoras5951
    @mithilbhoras5951 Рік тому +16

    Time to eat popcorn

  • @R00T.VVreced
    @R00T.VVreced 11 місяців тому +41

    I was a Muslim, after watching this video I now became an Atheist.

    • @anuragyadav8088
      @anuragyadav8088 8 місяців тому +5

      Really??

    • @R00T.VVreced
      @R00T.VVreced 8 місяців тому +1

      @@anuragyadav8088 yeah. anyone with open mind watching this will know what is really happening

    • @danish4888
      @danish4888 7 місяців тому +4

      salute bro accepted the reality

    • @Dontbe-ku1nw
      @Dontbe-ku1nw 7 місяців тому +1

      made up, think again

    • @devjyoti5614
      @devjyoti5614 7 місяців тому +2

      Then you are not a proper atheist.If a video changed your ideology that quickly then you were never a thiest either.I am half aethist or more like agnoist too I read books and debate.But yes I don't care about God's effect on me.

  • @Parvaz_007
    @Parvaz_007 Рік тому +11

    TUM PAPI HO !! line of the decade

    • @ArpitAbhijat
      @ArpitAbhijat 3 місяці тому

      😂 mai bhi papi hu acoording to 4000 dharm of world😅😅

  • @shraddhasharma16296
    @shraddhasharma16296 Рік тому +18

    Being Atheist and Being Vegan, Is The Best Service To Humanity.❤❤❤

    • @himanshukhattar8693
      @himanshukhattar8693 Рік тому +4

      But vimoh hates veganism

    • @AdityaRaj-xm6oi
      @AdityaRaj-xm6oi Рік тому +12

      Yep you are right until you don't force it like religious people on others.

    • @johnconstantine8574
      @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +5

      ​@@himanshukhattar8693 vimoh is vegetarian

    • @one_autumn_leaf69
      @one_autumn_leaf69 Рік тому +10

      ​​@@johnconstantine8574not vegan though and he does eat eggs too. I don't think he hates veganism, I think he just doesn't like the people who force it on other people

    • @Xyz04
      @Xyz04 Рік тому

      Ganta . Vegan is bad

  • @adityachopade-ok2kz
    @adityachopade-ok2kz Рік тому +9

    I want to achieve your level of patience in life man....

  • @bhveshmehta
    @bhveshmehta 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks! Good Job Vimoh.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  11 місяців тому +3

      Thanks Bhavesh!

  • @Perfectlyimperfect26
    @Perfectlyimperfect26 Рік тому +68

    Uncooked 😂😂😂😂

  • @arcofficial516
    @arcofficial516 Рік тому +39

    Noobs do cherry picking
    Legends watch the whole video ❤😂

  • @a_simple_atheist
    @a_simple_atheist Рік тому +20

    He really said the manuscripts, coins and paintings are evidences of god. 😂😂

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

    • @LostinMango
      @LostinMango Рік тому +2

      ​@@omairkhan9167Stop spamming bullah nobody said the universe comes from nothing and how does that prove your bullah exist

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      @@LostinMango yeah I have noticed this deceptive, diabolical channel is deleting my comments because he doesn't have answers of my rational questions! Don't get agitated and frustrated! Give it a thought! Abiogenesis is fraudulent! The failed Miller-Uri experiment suggested that! Primordial earth 🌎 didn't have suitable environment for protein synthesis! And where would you get an software ie "Soul" for the DNA that you haven't created till this date 📅! All of the evidence indicates that there is a supreme being The Creator! And to the owner of the channel don't be scared 😨 of me think 🤔 about the time that you will resurrected and asked about your deeds and believes and you feel much more shame then now! Not to mention eternal damnation!

    • @lasyak6355
      @lasyak6355 Рік тому +8

      @@LostinMango Stop using derogatory language, this is a place for discussion and discourse. Shut up.

  • @maahi86
    @maahi86 Рік тому +21

    Vimoh comes with straight facts and that’s all folks. People just need a good amount of common sense to get him. Lots of love to u Vimoh 🏆 THANKS FOR BEING SIMPLE & KEEPING IT SIMPLE.

    • @DEPUTY---PROPHET.25124pryg
      @DEPUTY---PROPHET.25124pryg Рік тому

      Are you atheist?

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

  • @Rahu_12345isn
    @Rahu_12345isn Рік тому +6

    48:23 Claims need to stand on their own merit not merely on the credibility of the person who claims them .
    ~By some Rational guy

  • @VRhwanDanikik
    @VRhwanDanikik Рік тому +11

    I see Mzlims preachers are bit confusion between contradiction and similarities. You will see Mzlims propagandist will always use the word "CONTRADICTION" to prove their opponent wrong even though the opponents points of argument may not have one. For mzlims propagandist and duwahgandist 2 + 2 = 4 but if
    6 - 2 = 4 than they will also say Maths is contradicting so maths false.

  • @nabeel7597
    @nabeel7597 Рік тому +9

    Project Director Dr Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford's Centre for Anthropology and Mind, said: 'This project does not set out to prove god or gods exist. Just because we find it easier to think in a particular way does not mean that it is true in fact. If we look at why religious beliefs and practices persist in societies across the world, we conclude that individuals bound by religious ties might be more likely to cooperate as societies. Interestingly, we found that religion is less likely to thrive in populations living in cities in developed nations where there is already a strong social support network.
    Our natural tendency to believe in god can be explained through evolutionary processes. the same research zeeshan quotes, also states that it is closely linked to us being social animals.
    Love from Pakistan vimoh.

    • @SameersQuestForGod8
      @SameersQuestForGod8 Рік тому +1

      And he cleverly skipped this main part from the same research. Cherry Picking Fallacy

  • @sukritdubey2630
    @sukritdubey2630 Рік тому +7

    Hey Vimoh
    There is a frame of reference for dark matter and that is mass, scientists know that mass is linked with the radiation spectra (which is again another frame of reference, literally light), they also know that mass can be calculated via studying the motion of distant celestial bodies. The discrepancy between the calculated mass from both approaches leads to hypothesise the existence of matter (because it has mass for sure) which doesn't seem to interact with light.
    The thing is the hypothesis of Dark Matter isn't without anything that is tractable to begin with, I guess such a thing works good enough to be a frame of reference. Would love your opinion on this.

    • @pratikmurari8182
      @pratikmurari8182 Рік тому

      Wow 😲

    • @a_simple_atheist
      @a_simple_atheist Рік тому

      I think the 'frame of reference' argument in this video is different from the information you have provided. (not implying that you were wrong).
      Scientists did not conceive the idea of the existence something like dark matter(or atleast not popularly acknowledged hypothesis like today's multiverse theory ,etc). So the finding dark matter became a 'discovery'.
      But when it comes to the existence of God, we already have a widely conceived idea. Many religions have provided their version of it. So if we were to look for God (scientifically), we need a frame of reference, which is not available because the people who say that God exists seems to be half knowledged or contradicting.
      Note: I am an agnostic atheist.

    • @sukritdubey2630
      @sukritdubey2630 Рік тому +3

      @@a_simple_atheist I take frame of reference as certain knowledge (verified positive claim) used to make further hypotheses. I agree that scientists didn't conceive the idea of such matter they happened upon it by actually following prior knowledge (frames of reference).
      I took issue with the Islamic speaker when he made the analogy that stuff like dark matter is also talked about without any frame of reference, so God must also be talked about in the same manner. Ofcourse my understanding of "frame of reference" may not be same as the speakers above.

    • @kingflockthewarrior202
      @kingflockthewarrior202 Рік тому

      Dark matter is not dark or anything. It's just wrong wording we perfectly know what it is. It's more like mysterious matter

    • @sukritdubey2630
      @sukritdubey2630 Рік тому

      @@kingflockthewarrior202 The nomenclature comes from the fact that such matter is inert to electromagnetic radiation(light), doesn't transmit, doesn't reflect. Hence dark.
      We don't know what it is, there are several hypotheses but we don't know which one's correct for sure

  • @tahavohra3936
    @tahavohra3936 Рік тому +12

    Vimoh's intellectual honesty 👏

    • @omairkhan9167
      @omairkhan9167 Рік тому

      so brother you are one of those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!

  • @johnconstantine8574
    @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +10

    1:06:10 evolution is 100% fact and there's not even 0.0000000001% uncertainty in that.

    • @rohittekchandani5720
      @rohittekchandani5720 Рік тому +1

      No it isn't. I agree there are Plethora of evidences to support Evolution but you still can't be 100% certain due to unknown factors or information that might be revealed in the future.

    • @johnconstantine8574
      @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому

      @@rohittekchandani5720 bro evolution happens around.
      It's a basic fact. Our body itself evolves and makes us immune to specific bacteria. Denying evolution is same believing flat earth.

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому

      ​@@johnconstantine8574 its not denying, its just that we are open to more possibilities.

    • @chaitanyagore1112
      @chaitanyagore1112 9 місяців тому

      Evolution is 100% fact but we can't be 100% sure ki current evolution theory is fact hai
      Theory has highest priority in science but it is still theory it can be modified according to information and research

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager 9 місяців тому

      @@chaitanyagore1112 nothing is 100% fact.
      Har cheej kuchh na kuchh assumption based hoti hai.
      Baat ye hai ki evidence kitna strong hai?

  • @debugloop
    @debugloop Рік тому +9

    Cooked the Cooker !!

  • @OnlyDeshbhakti9256
    @OnlyDeshbhakti9256 Рік тому +11

    'Manipulation master based on lie' is perfect definition of this smyl2 man.

    • @deadpoolfanclub6508
      @deadpoolfanclub6508 Рік тому +2

      Thats why he is also known as jalebi bai

    • @kafka1343
      @kafka1343 Рік тому

      Can you exactly site the point where he lies ?
      This statement itself contradictory cause there is no necessity to being manipulative you have to lie lol
      Vimoh is

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому +3

      ​@@kafka1343video dekh kar pata chal hi rha hai, ye kaise vimoh ki position ko misrepresent kar rha hai. Aur uncessary claims kar rha hai without proper evidence

  • @alexr9750
    @alexr9750 Рік тому +6

    Keep up the good work vimoh

  • @gauravkumar-dc2sr
    @gauravkumar-dc2sr 11 місяців тому +1

    The knowledge and clarity you gave upon terms theism, atheism and agnosticism between 22:07 - 22:32 is really appreciable.

  • @NitishCIMSONIAN
    @NitishCIMSONIAN Рік тому +24

    Vimoh sir Ke aage koi kuch bol skta hai kya ❤🗿😎!!!!!!

  • @rowanatkinson8687
    @rowanatkinson8687 Рік тому +5

    GREAT VIDEO SIR WELL REPLY WAITING PART 2 ❤❤❤👍

  • @thelogicless9040
    @thelogicless9040 Рік тому +11

    Smile to janah is more like laugh to janha. Bande kuch samajh hi ni ata Agnostic aur atheism pe behes kr ra h par evidence nai de raha

  • @ArunKmr425
    @ArunKmr425 Рік тому +41

    Even Muslims would agree with Vimoh

    • @AdityaRaj-xm6oi
      @AdityaRaj-xm6oi Рік тому +10

      Never bro, they fear Arabic hell also don't want to miss 72 sexy virgins.

    • @stanley2563
      @stanley2563 Рік тому +28

      You'll be surprised, they're quite blind in their belief

    • @Jchi737
      @Jchi737 Рік тому +1

      @@stanley2563 that's why they're muslims

    • @imtesalurrahman1676
      @imtesalurrahman1676 11 місяців тому

      😅 I am an atheist but I can confirm that mulims are mumpsimus​@@stanley2563

    • @UzairAhamd-hx1pj
      @UzairAhamd-hx1pj 10 місяців тому +15

      I was a Muslim but now a atheist ⚛️ I agree with vimoh😂😂

  • @johnconstantine8574
    @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +8

    All the hypothetical particles have mathematical proof.

    • @kingflockthewarrior202
      @kingflockthewarrior202 Рік тому

      And they actually use hypothetical before using the particles.unlike religion😅

  • @milkyJuman
    @milkyJuman Рік тому +4

    the concept of being omnipotent comes with a lot of flaws. Can an omnipotent being create something that it can't move?

  • @piyushsonigara5550
    @piyushsonigara5550 Рік тому +21

    Vimoh GOAT 🔥🐐

  • @rd3munna812
    @rd3munna812 7 місяців тому +5

    Islam is the fastest growing religion it's because of breeding not because of Muslim converts actually the fastest growing religion is non religion in countries like Canada, japan, Germany, Thailand

    • @pradeepagnel2262
      @pradeepagnel2262 4 місяці тому +1

      Dude it's because of youth population and fertility rate
      Don't worry

    • @ncbhalani7588
      @ncbhalani7588 День тому

      बच्चे तो आल्हा की देन हैं!!!!!!!!!!!! इसे रोकना मजहब के खिलाफ़ है!!!!!!!😢😢😢😢😢

  • @dot-hj6jo
    @dot-hj6jo Рік тому +25

    You cooked him 😂

  • @rishabhthakur8773
    @rishabhthakur8773 Рік тому +1

    32:08 I think there can be something that we know 100% sure, but we cannot provide any evidence for it ( till now ) .

  • @rohittekchandani5720
    @rohittekchandani5720 Рік тому +13

    Not gonna lie and No disrespect but I've seen better arguments in vimoh's live stream by theists than Zeeshan. Lol.

  • @YV-2000
    @YV-2000 Рік тому +5

    Great going Vimoh

  • @ExcuseMeAman
    @ExcuseMeAman 3 місяці тому +1

    30:35 evidence of absence, absence of evidence.. itna complicated sun kar mere muh se jhaag nikal gayi 😂

  • @boomtube1362
    @boomtube1362 Рік тому +4

    Sir, have u watched Rick n Morty ? If not, please watch Season 2, Episode 6. It was the episode that mainly critiques on the concept of God or Creator.

  • @reyeseuropeos9153
    @reyeseuropeos9153 Рік тому +2

    I like how he talks and does a false complaint against vimoh for using fallacies while again and again gives arguments from authority "newton, darwin, lemaitre" etc

  • @johnconstantine8574
    @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +15

    34:00 you should have mentioned that that lsIam is fastest growing due to fertility rate. There's no limitation put on anyone. UP brought two child policy for everyone regardless of religion

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому +1

      yes but due to conversion as well.

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому +2

      ​@@gamovic7786 and due to, very strict laws against blasphemy in muslim countries.

    • @himanshukhattar8693
      @himanshukhattar8693 Рік тому

      ​It's only 0.3%

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому

      @@ThoughtfulVoyager what about Europe and America? Do you have that excuse there as well?

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому

      @@himanshukhattar8693 Maybe but certainly fastest growing religion by conversation anyway.

  • @iamsiddharthchowdhary
    @iamsiddharthchowdhary Рік тому +3

    Things going in loop. Its better to have face to face conversation in live stream.

  • @goodkarma782
    @goodkarma782 Рік тому +2

    If he even hints as much as to accept that 'it is concivable that the holy books are wrong'. Ghar se bahar nikalna band hojayega unka.

    • @sunilsabat-0483
      @sunilsabat-0483 Рік тому

      Zeeshan ka ghar hi anti hindu anti india anti israel se chal raha hai

  • @XieLiansHongEr
    @XieLiansHongEr Рік тому +6

    He is just in it for his ego. He doesn't have a single valid sentence. Literally he has manipulated the vimoh's video by omitting things. All the research he presents is half truths that he is feeding his audience. Honestly, he just needs to accept that the god thing is the most successful business strategy in history and just enjoy his money. No need for this drama. This Jannah guy isn't searching for the truth like the rest of us.

  • @reyeseuropeos9153
    @reyeseuropeos9153 Рік тому +5

    The idiocy in this theist guys 2nd point is that he says "because we see things have creator so we infer that universe was created" then he should tell the point from where he infers that the creator of this universe would be omnipotent, all knowing, supremest rather than dependent and not so perfect creators like we see

    • @SameersQuestForGod8
      @SameersQuestForGod8 Рік тому +5

      And he didn’t realize that we don’t see humans are created but born. We don’t see trees are created but grown.
      He don’t understand the difference between created and natural.

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 Рік тому +4

      @@SameersQuestForGod8 yes lol. The basic thing is that we see mountains, trees, clouds and all the other naturally existing things or beings are not "created" and it's again just a "claim" that they are created, that too by 'their' god.

    • @SameersQuestForGod8
      @SameersQuestForGod8 Рік тому +3

      @@reyeseuropeos9153 How silly it is to believe that Allah created Adam with Mud Clay and then blew Soul in it. 🤣

    • @johnconstantine8574
      @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому

      fine tuning can be argued even against the existence of god of Quran since god created humans to worship him then why did he create a planet which is 1b light years away from human and has nothing to do with us. Humans will still exist if that planet wouldn't have existed. It shows that planets are naturally formed. Why did god create dinosaurs? Why did god take millions of years to create humans? Why did god create some Bactria and insect who even if got extinct then it won't harm the food chain.
      All these things shows that objects and living beings were naturally formed and didn't require a higher intelligence.

  • @TheRationalAtheist1
    @TheRationalAtheist1 Рік тому +3

    Amazing sir👍 great work

  • @meditateguru651
    @meditateguru651 Рік тому +3

    Vimoh i never do comment on any video and i have been watching your content for some time and decide to give a comment on Every video of you which i would find good to leave a comment to show my support.

  • @MeiMeiHexes
    @MeiMeiHexes Рік тому +9

    Finished listening a civil conversation.....not let's go to the jungle war in the comment section 💀

  • @Nikhil-rr4vd
    @Nikhil-rr4vd Рік тому +4

    56:10 god = iPhone???? False equivalence fallacy?? Right??? @vimoh live

    • @rohittekchandani5720
      @rohittekchandani5720 Рік тому +1

      It's getting more into False Analogy Fallacy. I think.

    • @lasyak6355
      @lasyak6355 Рік тому +1

      Bhai Analogy samjhte ho?

    • @Nikhil-rr4vd
      @Nikhil-rr4vd Рік тому

      @@lasyak6355 false analogy to compare kr rha hai vo muslim banda

    • @masterchief5603
      @masterchief5603 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Nikhil-rr4vdnope, he meant that just rejecting and becoming atheist due to too many definitions in hand is a wrong way to proceed with this all.

    • @lasyak6355
      @lasyak6355 Рік тому

      @@Nikhil-rr4vd Ha bhai false analogy hi hain. False equivalence nahi ayega na phir. That's my point.

  • @eldhoabraham1444
    @eldhoabraham1444 Рік тому +1

    Watched till the end & very sensible ! kudos

  • @antonydsouza1484
    @antonydsouza1484 Рік тому

    It’s important to recognize that different belief systems and philosophical perspectives offer diverse interpretations of reality, and individuals may find solace, meaning, and guidance in exploring concepts of an ultimate reality beyond the material universe. However, from a scientific standpoint, claims about the nature of reality beyond the material universe typically cannot be empirically verified or falsified. For extraordinary claims, need extraordinary evidence.

  • @coco-chan-
    @coco-chan- 10 місяців тому +1

    a thought experiment - if an orphan born to parents of X religion gets adopted by a couple of Y religion, then what is the real religion of that adopted child ?

  • @kongspeaks4778
    @kongspeaks4778 Рік тому +3

    So much patience for such a condescending edgy theist

  • @djpathak27
    @djpathak27 Рік тому +5

    haven't watched the video yet, but bhai please live kar lo na ek badhiya sa moderator bitha ke, ab aapke two part response ka 4 part response aayega, fir 8 part so on...
    kaise chalega

  • @MonkeyDLuffy4885
    @MonkeyDLuffy4885 Рік тому +9

    I think he should join a live stream with you and then put his arguments 😅

    • @rajmukhekar7468
      @rajmukhekar7468 Рік тому

      Ya both of them seems to misunderstand each other's argument

    • @MonkeyDLuffy4885
      @MonkeyDLuffy4885 Рік тому +5

      @@rajmukhekar7468 Vimoh is ear with his standing but problem is with the guy.... He is not giving any evidence and expecting us to believe whatever he is saying 😅

    • @rajmukhekar7468
      @rajmukhekar7468 Рік тому +2

      ​@@MonkeyDLuffy4885both of them are arguing in a loop
      Ik vimoh is correct but he should realize that this conversation is bullist. He should make it clear in one argument that you dont have any evidence and he is the one who shall give an evidence and not him because vimoh is not claiming anything so its not his part of job to prove that god does not exist.

    • @MonkeyDLuffy4885
      @MonkeyDLuffy4885 Рік тому

      @@rajmukhekar7468 indeed

  • @Walker.....
    @Walker..... Рік тому +3

    These are very good questions vimoh is coming up with, it will be very beneficial for his audience when answered

  • @ExploringAdventuresbyHERO
    @ExploringAdventuresbyHERO Місяць тому +2

    यें उस तरह का व्यक्ति हैं जिसकी तालाश थी।

  • @ankitmaurya9694
    @ankitmaurya9694 8 місяців тому +1

    Atheism is also a BELIEF in non existence of Pink Hippopotamus, green lions, two-footed giraffe, four-footed birds, a polypedal human and the list goes on.... 😭😭 Can anyone add more?

    • @andreasplosky8516
      @andreasplosky8516 8 місяців тому +3

      I am not so sure about two-footed giraffes. I think I saw one in my kitchen, the other day.

  • @james4807M
    @james4807M Рік тому +1

    Most of these people are confused on the term agnosticism. Agnosticism is the view or belief that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.

  • @sorenutpal6091
    @sorenutpal6091 Рік тому +4

    Vimoh should totally have a debate with him, may be get a moderator. Response response game is getting funny.

    • @akemrelax9762
      @akemrelax9762 Рік тому +3

      Responding on UA-cam is better than face to face debate. Face to face debates turn into verbal fights.

    • @sorenutpal6091
      @sorenutpal6091 Рік тому

      @@akemrelax9762 there are lot of debate already on youtube if you have seen or not. And I said moderator, they could have healthy debate to settle the response response cycle. Will be interesting for viewers too.

    • @nikhilhembrom8952
      @nikhilhembrom8952 Рік тому

      ​@@akemrelax9762have a moderator

  • @blazecolt2342
    @blazecolt2342 Рік тому +1

    12:58 i wanted to comment this on the last video about amazon not delivering my purchase and asks me for proof. So, glad i did comment this

  • @hasratbhanot3103
    @hasratbhanot3103 Рік тому +4

    Flying Elephant exists, prove me wrong!!

    • @sunilsabat-0483
      @sunilsabat-0483 Рік тому +1

      Vimoh just use my weapon
      Show ranveer allahbadia shorts "punarjanam hota hai agar kisi ko lagta hai nahi hota to evidence do ki punarjanam nahi hai"
      Zeeshan ko bol punarjanm hota hai i gurantee zeeshan gonna say nahi hota hai
      Phir vimoh should say punarjanm nahi hota hai iska evidence lake do
      Ab iske baad zeeshan tu queque fallacy ka gana gayega

    • @sarthakgothalyan8952
      @sarthakgothalyan8952 Рік тому +3

      You are making an active claim so burden of proof is on you

    • @rohittekchandani5720
      @rohittekchandani5720 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@sarthakgothalyan8952Tu quoque Fallacy. /s

    • @chaitanyagore1112
      @chaitanyagore1112 9 місяців тому

      ​@@rohittekchandani5720😂

  • @montusinghsodhi
    @montusinghsodhi Рік тому +3

    Maja aa Gaya. Aap acche se points present karte ho sir

  • @LukoseJoseph007
    @LukoseJoseph007 Рік тому +21

    Watched it. Had to spit the uncooked Vimoh out of my mouth. Hope Zeeshan does the cooking better next time.
    Also, for Zeeshan followers who are laughing at our inability to disprove your allah, try the exercise of disproving any other gods from other religions. You will understand how important falsifiability is for any intellectually honest argument.

    • @gamovic7786
      @gamovic7786 Рік тому +2

      God of Islam that we refer to as Allah can be the only rational conclusion if we look to any religion or any idea of God or Idea of no God. God can only be one, all knowledgeable,all powerful.

    • @pavankumarhk7074
      @pavankumarhk7074 Рік тому +5

      ​@@gamovic7786 if God is all knowledgeable, then, he would know all the thoughts and actions going to be taken by humans in future. If he already knows, then there will not be free will. If there is no free will, would that mean that God designed the world in such a way that there will be suffering? If that is true, then God is sadist. Sadist nature is seen in humans. So, does God have human nature? How can one be God if he is like us?

    • @logicweaver7152
      @logicweaver7152 Рік тому +1

      ​@@pavankumarhk7074 Bruh, this is a stupid argument. Pre-knowledge does not imply predestination.
      Suppose you're a traffic policeman with a speed detector.
      You see a car speeding forward and detect its speed. Now assume that you know a bit of math and physics, and you quickly calculate that the car will crash. You already know this before the crash happens because you've calculated it. Does it mean you have caused the crash to happen and that the driver doesn't have any free will because you've got knowledge of this?
      Having prior knowledge is in no way taking away free will. Lol!

    • @RajeshPatel-fe8rn
      @RajeshPatel-fe8rn Рік тому

      @@gamovic7786 Yes your Allah is so powerful that he needs a messenger that too a ped-o-file 😜

    • @pavankumarhk7074
      @pavankumarhk7074 Рік тому +4

      @@logicweaver7152 initial comment suggested God as all knowledgeable, not as physics student.
      Anyway, let's take a simple scenario. Assume that the next minute I will raise my right hand up. I do not have knowledge of this, however, God knows. After one minute, I decide to raise my left hand based on my free will. So, our presumption of God as all knowledgeable became wrong as he didn't know that I will raise my left hand. If he indeed knew that I will change my decision and raise my left hand, then, I have no free will because God knows with certainty that what am I going to do.

  • @abirbhattacharya9020
    @abirbhattacharya9020 7 місяців тому

    You should say "The burden of proof is on some who asserts or claims the (existence) of a thing".
    Otherwise they will say "you're claiming something as well".

  • @vamsikumar1550
    @vamsikumar1550 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely loved Smile2jannah's latest Can't cook saga

  • @agnosticengineer
    @agnosticengineer Рік тому +2

    Educational n Informative....👍

  • @MeiMeiHexes
    @MeiMeiHexes Рік тому +15

    My Boi burried him ..

  • @MohammadNoumanAhmer
    @MohammadNoumanAhmer Рік тому +4

    Why not have a live debate with him?

  • @abhinashpalai6600
    @abhinashpalai6600 9 місяців тому +2

    Hello Vimoh Sir,
    I would love to debate with you. I am an atheist too. But i want to do the devil's advocate and give you better points to refute. The truth about debate is that if you debate well, you cant be wrong, no matter what side you take.
    That being said it wont be a news channel debate. I will come prepared for a Socratic elenchus.
    Hope you read this message.

  • @lasyak6355
    @lasyak6355 Рік тому +13

    Can we have Zeeshan on the Saturday Night Live stream?

    • @johnconstantine8574
      @johnconstantine8574 Рік тому +10

      He doesn't debate face to face

    • @mdfakehzaujan
      @mdfakehzaujan Рік тому

      I have seen him doing that on streets

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому +1

      ​@@mdfakehzaujan with very bad logic tbh.
      He can't counter someone like vimoh on street.

  • @Manoj_0000
    @Manoj_0000 Рік тому +3

    Hyperactive agent detection evolutionary mechanism, got to know new information

  • @virendrabengani8260
    @virendrabengani8260 23 години тому

    Did you all notice how calm and humble vimoh is for a guy who possesses so much in depth knowledge its strange there's not one ounce of arrogance on display by him. And when you look at the jannah guy, its completely opposite. This is what i love about most sceptics and atheists. They're so open-minded unlike this jannah guy

  • @goodkarma782
    @goodkarma782 Рік тому +4

    but vimoh oga buga ne likha tha oga buga bible mei ke usne nail cutter banaya tha, aur sare nail cutter wahi banata hai. Is that not an evidence? /s

    • @ThoughtfulVoyager
      @ThoughtfulVoyager Рік тому

      Alhamdulillah, you are very intelligent believer.

    • @rohittekchandani5720
      @rohittekchandani5720 Рік тому +1

      Ooga Booga Supremacy!
      Praise the Lord, the one and only Ooga Booga.

    • @sharipn8348
      @sharipn8348 8 місяців тому

      Ooga boogamdulliah🕊️

  • @JaimeYoung-ji9vc
    @JaimeYoung-ji9vc 11 місяців тому

    how to make a human is there any procedure?

  • @sunilsabat-0483
    @sunilsabat-0483 Рік тому +5

    Vimoh just use my weapon
    Show ranveer allahbadia shorts "punarjanam hota hai agar kisi ko lagta hai nahi hota to evidence do ki punarjanam nahi hai"
    Zeeshan ko bol punarjanm hota hai i gurantee zeeshan gonna say nahi hota hai
    Phir vimoh should say punarjanm nahi hota hai iska evidence lake do
    Ab iske baad zeeshan tu queque fallacy ka gana gayega

  • @shreyashpatil3979
    @shreyashpatil3979 7 місяців тому

    Vimol sir, please make video on kalpa vigraha idol.please please please.

  • @chaitanyagore1112
    @chaitanyagore1112 9 місяців тому

    Richard Dawkins was asked question that
    "What argument from theist is most convincing?"
    So he said Fine tuning argument is convincing.
    But he also said Fine tuning argument doesn't prove God and it can be debunked