@@vimohlive Hello sir! I think the audio volume is way too low in almost all your videos, both on this channel and on the main one. I sometimes watch your videos with earphones on while munching crispy stuff and I have to literally listen at full volume to get what you're saying. If anyone listens to this video carefully, I'm sure they'll will notice the difference in volume between your voice and that of Zeeshan's. Kindly double the video volume while editing. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
@@vimohlivebro apka morality keya hey ab kis chis ko believe Karte ho or ab khud se to peydah nehi huye hey AP Jo bat bolte ho uska koi reference nehi deh te ho sif bat Karte ho
That is what all Dogmatic People do. Actually the problem with them is they reach to the conclusion first and then google search to support that conclusion. They are not even honest enough to read properly.
Vimoh you really put your heart in this one. The amount of mental energy it must've taken to make this video is beyond what I can imagine. Here I am tired just listening to both arguments.
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
@@theseeker4308no thanks, he'll check him out , if he finds any pseudoscience or misinformation or any fallacy, but if the guy who mentioned wants to debate, he's welcome to vimoh's streams , also try to focus on vimoh's explanation instead of crying that this guy or that guy will debunk him
@@theseeker4308 You mean the man who constantly strawmans their interlocutor and throws ad hominems attacking their families. Sure man. Also after he debated Alex O'Connor, he dishonestly edited the debate and even actively deleted comments under his video. Doesn't sound like a destroyer of atheists to me.
Vimoh, Man! You have so much patience. He didn't even understand even the simplest things u said in ur previous video, and yet you are toning it further down so that even a class 1st kid wud be able to get it. It shows ur patience and maturity.
Him showing the research papers from scientific community to prove against homosexuality was the classic example of "apne paero par kulhadi maarna". Great reaction video by @vimoh! 👍
Vimoh was being respectful here. He could have used similar arguement against him by showing sudan 2nd Civil war, honour kiIIings and all other terror attacks. But he doesn't want to disrespect his beliefs.
Bhai usne jo article para hey usme likha hey e thik nehi hey jab e bol raha hey thik hey tab ham log e sab kareng geh to country ki problem Hogi simple bad hey
@@MunnaHossain-cw7mu the reason is simple. Kyonki un logo ko itna harass aur bully Kia jaata hai for their existence. Even parents tak kaafi cases mai saath nahin dete
Sorry to say but This religious guy doesn't possess enough intellectual fortitude to understand pure rational arguments and fair rebuttals. He will always be biased towards his own religion and thus will find solace in some god who did break the moon in half.
When God can create the whole universe, splitting the moon is nothing. By the way watch the video of Uthman ibn Farooq about splitting the moon. It is verified by even non muslim sources.
@@Adil-uk7vhYou have to first proof that God even exists before claiming that it created the universe. If you literally believe someone can actually break the moon in half and then rejoin it back. There is no point in arguing with you anyway.
I am compelled to express my sincere appreciation for the exceptional quality of your content, particularly your this debunking video. Your meticulous research, coupled with your articulate and grounded arguments, sets you apart in the realm of atheist discourse. Your unwavering commitment to rationality, delivered with a calm and respectful demeanor, is truly commendable. Your ability to dissect religious arguments with precision reflects a profound understanding of the subject matter. It is evident that your dedication to thorough examination enhances the credibility of your responses. In a landscape often marked by polarized discussions, your approach serves as a beacon of intellectual integrity. Discovering someone like you after a long time has been a rare and gratifying experience. Your recent video was nothing short of phenomenal, showcasing not only your depth of knowledge but also your commitment to fostering constructive dialogue. Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the discourse, and I eagerly anticipate more enlightening content from your channel.
In a scenario of dual worlds One with and one without a divine presence - Atheists remain consistent, drawing their morals from societal sources, thereby abstaining from harm in both Worlds. The question arises for theists, in a godless worlds, reliant on divine morality, would they resort to destructive actions in the absence of God's guidance?
Responding to this guy is futile, as he is not able to understand your arguments properly.......btw great video vimoh......your response was very refined and to the point..
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
@@omairkhan9167 We just go by what the scientific consensus says, which is - Our universe was created by the Big Bang. An overwhelming majority of scientists (99.99% of scientists at the National Academies of Sciences) have examined the scientific evidence behind the Big Bang and accepted it as the most possible way our universe was created. If someone disproves the Big Bang theory or comes up with a completely new theory one day, and it passes the scientific method and gets accepted by the scientific community, he'll probably be awarded the Nobel Prize. No one has yet. Until then, we should accept what the scientific consensus says! And if you're asking what caused or what existed before the Big Bang, we simply say "We don't know" instead of attributing to to an "all powerful, omnipresent, intelligent, timeless, dimensionless etc." creator or God. Just FYI, there are 4 major philosophical positions people take when it comes to God: Gnostic Theist: I KNOW God exists, therefore I believe in him Agnostic Theist: I don't know whether God exists or not, but still I believe he is there somewhere Agnostic Atheist: I don't know whether God exists or not, therefore I don't believe in him Gnostic Atheist: I KNOW God doesn't exist, therefore I don't believe in him Vimoh and I are agnostic atheists. We're neither acknowledging the existence of God nor claiming God doesn't exist. UNTIL evidence presents itself, agnostic atheists will continue to reject God (That's what I meant by "not believing in him"). Unlike gnostic atheists who are making a claim by saying, "God doesn't exist and we KNOW it" agnostic atheists on the other hand say, "We don't know whether he exists or not, therefore we don't believe in him just yet. If the existence of God is scientifically proven one day (For which we've been waiting for the past 1000 years or so), we'll happily bow down to the almighty!" Hope that made sense! I can't start a debate here in the replies because I'm busy in real life. Also, it's hard to chat here because half of the replies I post get hidden by UA-cam for some reason. And BTW Vimoh isn't a bad guy. He attacks religious claims and arguments, not people. He stands in solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine. He mostly criticises Hinduism because it's the dominant religion and has the most influence in India (Pakistani atheists criticise Islam and American atheists criticise Christianity for the same reason). I highly recommend you check out his other content if you want to get answers to theistic claims and arguments (This is not to become an atheist but maybe just to get a more rational perspective on things!) Thanks and have a good day! 👋
I had the same argument with one of my friends and I thought, he's just stupid, he is a Muslim so the same perspective on morality. Now, I see where it is coming from 😂.
Im an ex muslim and i would like vimoh when this theist states about lgbt as bad morals, vimoh should talk about islamic morals like Laundis (concubines) Halala, No right for women to divorce, woman having half of almost every right, No right for non believers for qisas etc
Zeeshan morality(islamic morality) 1.agar kisi place pe muslim rule kar raha ho to non muslim se jaziya tax lo Muslim ab is cheez ko ye bolke defend karte hai ki muslim zakah tax dete hai lekin inka so called perfect book quran ne zakat ka % decide karke rakha hai (2.5% person income) lekin jaziya tax ka koi % decide nahi hai iska matlab "Ruler ka kingdom ruler ki marji" Agar koi non muslim ruled place pe muslim aur non muslim se different tax liya jaye to ye muslim human right islamophobia extremism julm intehapasandi ka gana gayenge 2.lgbtq ko jeene ka koi right nahi hai death penalty honi chahiye 3.agar koi islamic ruled country me koi atheist banna chahta hai to use death penalty kyuki inka so called religion best hai
4. Ager koi admi kisi choti bacchi se shadi aur sex karna chaiye to wo acceptable hai 5. slavery ki khas aynte hai 6. Aurto ko adhi akal ka madro ke barabar nahi samjhna
Zeeshan of smile2jannah uploaded a short, a day after you posted this video, showing the same clip of articles which he manipulated. The audacity of this man to upload the same content even after being called our for manipulation. Zeeshan has no shame. What a loser.
Jb v kisi religion pr baat ati hai to oo Constitution ke hee baat krne lgte hain.. Lekin dusron ke fundamental rights chin lete hain apne religion ke naam pe.
No, Vimoh, please don't stop punctuating your videos with these occasional bits of humour. That pinky finger indicating number 1 was just too much fun!
This guy is such so sad. (not Vimoh, the other one). All of his counter attacks literally feel like answers from my philosophy textbook. Agar itni basic ass criticism hi sunni hoti tau mai pdhai hi nhi kar leti.
Agree with you on the homosexuality part. That zeeshan guy is just showing irrelevant researches to justify hate towards homosexuality came from his religion.
Thanks Vimoh for the effort and information you provided via the two videos you made 👏🏽. Love yours and his patience and polite form used by both of you. This usually isn’t the case
1:28:14 I think what people aren't saying loudly here is it will influence,and challenge their kids , family values and subsequently their morality that doesn't align with it.
Amazing how you could go through the religious guy's blatant misrepresentations with such a composed attitude. I wish I could do that, and I know that does not come easy. It's also funny how the religious guy always lies, hides portions of the video, or misrepresents your arguments (immoral actions), while you were being such a gentleman. If there's one take away, that's that intellectual honesty shouldn't be taken for granted.
its nothing these guys know that thing is that they are few numbers they have to make excuses on that or white wash since the stuff advocated by their religion they wish to practice.
One thing I have observed is theists want absolute certainty in everything. They cannot fathom the concept of reasonable science-based confidence, which evolves over time with more data and more consensus.
about the abortion topic, i think men should have the right to a "legal abortion" to be able to give up responsibility of the child. in present scenario the decision of the women also affects the man.
In my understanding, women is the major stakeholder in this regard. Her life stays at the risk, she have to bare the pain. In such case, after a discussion between the partners, veto shall lie on her.
Mai ek Muslim family rise hua baad me science padh ke atheist baana hu , baat kya hai ki mere relatives me ek ladkha tha voo LGBTQ se tha , voo unki community log se jaa kr time spend kr raha tha aur une jese dress pehan na yesa kr tha tha lekin bhaut logo ko paata nhi tha voo ladkhe ke bare me , voo Muslim family se tha aur unke family vaalo ne tho bhaut baar warn kiye aur maar bhi rahe the ,lekin vo uski feelings ko kise control kr paye gaaa , isliye voo tho poison deee ke maar diye . Unko jara bhi guilt feel nhi hue , aur police case nhi hue , baas suicide bol ke sob ko juut bole , yaar yesaa itnaa homophobic kyu rha the hai kya moral values hai bhai yee , mai Muslim community ko yesa nhi bol raha hu yese bhaut sare log hai maine mere naked eyes se dheka hu , baas ye log ko itna bhi basic sense nhi raha tha hai kya , LGBTQ tho haar ek animal species me hote hai , science nhi padh the hai ye log
10:21 wait a min ye bande ka wo he religion hai n jisme jab bacche ko pata tak nahi hota uska without anesthetic circumcision kia jata hai .... correct me if i am wrong
I saw his video before too by UA-cam algorithm. It was very mind irritating experience. All the lies he spreading was right before my eyes. But couldn't do anything for many obvious reasons. From that day I was patiently waiting for someone to debunk his ignorance stupidity and lies. And you clearly did that with excellence.. You made my wish come true. There are lot more to learn from you..❤❤❤❤
This guy talks about nudist beach and baccho ko nuksaan. Now im an ex muslim. Vimoh ask him about "laudio ka satar" or "laundio ka parda" which means the clothings of concubines in islam under shariyah as was during riyasat e medina. Its clear through saheeh hadeeths and even through quran that there used to roam concubines on the streets of medina under prophets rule under shariyah and they were only allowed to cover from their belly button to their knees and the rest of the body used to be uncovered There are saheeh hadeeths claiming hazrat umar even did dhishoom dhishoom with 👊👊👊a concubine when he found her covering her chest. Now muslim belief is that riyasat e medina has been the best best olace on earth to live😂 while he criticises germany for such beaches. The thing is germany still restricts foashing in public and such places are only for adults yet he claims it bad while In medina which he would call as the best ever place had uncovered concubines roaming everywhere
The purdah of a free Muslim woman is her whole body , the purdah of the Muslim man is from the navel to the knee , the purdah of the slave woman shockingly is also from the navel to the knee , the purdah of a slave man is from the navel to the knee. Hijab in Islam is only for free women not slave woman
It’s good to see non Muslims with such deep knowledge about Islam before UA-cam it was very easy to fool non Muslims with the sugar coated version of Islam
Vimoh forgot to mention that morality or peaceful co-existence may have been hardwired into humans as a result of evolutionary selection in psychology. That the reason many people do not go in frenzy to kill others is because maybe natural selection deleted genes which had such tendencies. This is a major research area in evolutionary psychology. Morality is subjective but this subjectivity is shaped by natural selection.
Oh sorry he did say that but he made it into social things. Again, social dynamics are constrained by natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is the overarching guide to human subjectivities. I think he did that because then he would have to attribute patriarchy and inequalities to natural selection. I am no Peterson fan, but I think there should be a space to study science about inequalities, sex differences and even racial differences. Science is the way forward.
Both science and religion is important as science gives you progression and religion gives you motivation for progression. This is why scientist of ISRO went to Tirupati Temple before launching the Chandrayan. I am talking about Indian Religion only.
Object moralities don't exist. There should be a code of conduct and rules which is an objective thing but morals in itself are not objective even in islam. Just for instance incest and marrying and procreating with blood siblings is illegal in Islam but the thing is the children of Adam and Eve did the same thing as per allah own will/wish. The same thing is a guy can't have more than 4 wives, many prophets were special cases which jad more than 4 wives. This itself shows islam or allah doesn't holds objective morality. A basic principle of objective morality is that it never changes in any given situation
Zeeshan morality(islamic morality) 1.agar kisi place pe muslim rule kar raha ho to non muslim se jaziya tax lo Muslim ab is cheez ko ye bolke defend karte hai ki muslim zakah tax dete hai lekin inka so called perfect book quran ne zakat ka % decide karke rakha hai (2.5% person income) lekin jaziya tax ka koi % decide nahi hai iska matlab "Ruler ka kingdom ruler ki marji" Agar koi non muslim ruled place pe muslim aur non muslim se different tax liya jaye to ye muslim human right islamophobia extremism julm intehapasandi ka gana gayenge 2.lgbtq ko jeene ka koi right nahi hai death penalty honi chahiye 3.agar koi islamic ruled country me koi atheist banna chahta hai to use death penalty kyuki inka so called religion best hai
While it's true that religious doctrines, including those in Islam, contain specific rules and codes of conduct that may appear to change or have exceptions, proponents of objective morality would argue that these variations are not necessarily indicative of the absence of objective moral principles. Interpretation and Context: The interpretation of religious texts can vary, and different scholars or followers may have different perspectives on certain moral teachings. In the case of Islam, scholars often emphasize the importance of understanding the historical and cultural context in which certain rules were established. This context may explain apparent exceptions or variations in moral guidance. Divine Command Theory: Some proponents of objective morality argue from a perspective known as Divine Command Theory. According to this view, moral principles are grounded in the commands of a divine being, such as Allah in Islam. From this standpoint, variations in moral rules can be seen as specific commands given by the divine in response to particular circumstances, rather than a departure from objective morality. Moral Objectivity vs. Application: Objectivity in morality doesn't necessarily mean that specific rules or practices are unchanging in all circumstances. It can be argued that the underlying moral principles remain objective, while the application of these principles may vary based on different situations and historical contexts. For example, the prohibition against incest may be grounded in the broader objective of promoting healthy family structures. Special Cases and General Rules: The presence of special cases, such as prophets with more than four wives, could be seen as exceptions to general rules. Proponents of objective morality might argue that these exceptions were specific to certain individuals and periods, serving unique purposes in the broader moral framework. In summary, the argument doesn't necessarily disprove the concept of objective morality. It highlights the need for careful interpretation, consideration of context, and acknowledgment of different perspectives within a religious or moral framework. The existence of apparent exceptions does not negate the possibility of underlying objective moral principles.
@@lasyak6355 the reasoning would still remain idiocy filled. Their god claims to be omnipotent and can do anything and everything, so by definition he would never have to contradict his own self to perform a task. Their god claims of objective morality too which would never change, he also claims he can do anything and knows everything (both of the statements actually contradict each other) so as written earlier, a being who knows everything and can do everything, bu definition would never have to contradict himself by any means no matter the situation
Reproducibility and objectivity are two fundamental pillars of scientific research. Reproducibility ensures that the results of a study can be independently verified by other researchers, thus strengthening the evidence and building upon existing work. Objectivity, on the other hand, is an attempt to uncover truths about the natural world by eliminating personal biases, emotions, and false beliefs. It is often linked to observation as part of the scientific method and is thus intimately related to the aim of testability and reproducibility. Religion has its failure on empirical grounds.
Vimoh bhai, iss bewakoof ko bhool jao. Guardian is a journalism organization, science direct is not a journal but a database which hosts various journals and sage is a publisher which has many journals. Usko science kaise function karti hai yahi nahi pata😊
Good job Vimoh. 👍👍👍
The amount of research and the precision of the arguments are totally mind blowing.
Arpit sir/bhaiya 🤩😎 ⚛️ community increasing day by day aap jaise logo ko vajah se
Arpit bhai❤
Thank you sir. Means a lot coming from you.
@@vimohlive Hello sir! I think the audio volume is way too low in almost all your videos, both on this channel and on the main one. I sometimes watch your videos with earphones on while munching crispy stuff and I have to literally listen at full volume to get what you're saying. If anyone listens to this video carefully, I'm sure they'll will notice the difference in volume between your voice and that of Zeeshan's. Kindly double the video volume while editing. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
@@vimohlivebro apka morality keya hey ab kis chis ko believe Karte ho or ab khud se to peydah nehi huye hey AP Jo bat bolte ho uska koi reference nehi deh te ho sif bat Karte ho
Dinner is served and plates are washed too
Indeed 👍
Indeed
Indeed
I want dinner again 🍽️
So Zeeshan Ali just reads the headline of studies to support his stupid arguments
That is what all Dogmatic People do. Actually the problem with them is they reach to the conclusion first and then google search to support that conclusion. They are not even honest enough to read properly.
did you expected more ?
😂😂😅@@Shayistic
Vimoh you really put your heart in this one. The amount of mental energy it must've taken to make this video is beyond what I can imagine. Here I am tired just listening to both arguments.
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
Vimoh you are going to become "Mashoor" after this banger
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
Pranav is comment ko dekh rha hoga,mashoor k Matlab btado usko 😭
@@ItsShershahveerelol😅
@@theseeker4308no thanks, he'll check him out , if he finds any pseudoscience or misinformation or any fallacy, but if the guy who mentioned wants to debate, he's welcome to vimoh's streams , also try to focus on vimoh's explanation instead of crying that this guy or that guy will debunk him
@@theseeker4308 You mean the man who constantly strawmans their interlocutor and throws ad hominems attacking their families. Sure man. Also after he debated Alex O'Connor, he dishonestly edited the debate and even actively deleted comments under his video. Doesn't sound like a destroyer of atheists to me.
Thanks for giving clear explanations Vimoh. More than “winning” I feel like you’ve given perspective that ppl can learn from.
Vimoh, Man! You have so much patience.
He didn't even understand even the simplest things u said in ur previous video, and yet you are toning it further down so that even a class 1st kid wud be able to get it.
It shows ur patience and maturity.
Vimoh should go to MasterChef!
Thank you Vimoh... For debunking him ...its a much needed episode so far... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Vimoh you speak rationally and debunked him clearly. Love ❤ and respect from a Pakistani Atheist.
Him showing the research papers from scientific community to prove against homosexuality was the classic example of "apne paero par kulhadi maarna".
Great reaction video by @vimoh! 👍
Vimoh was being respectful here. He could have used similar arguement against him by showing sudan 2nd Civil war, honour kiIIings and all other terror attacks.
But he doesn't want to disrespect his beliefs.
Bro me abih ek article para hey jis me likha hey Jo log homosexual hota hey o log ka suicide Jada hoti hey
Bhai usne jo article para hey usme likha hey e thik nehi hey jab e bol raha hey thik hey tab ham log e sab kareng geh to country ki problem Hogi simple bad hey
Link bhi toh share kar do uss article ka at least woh Kahan se hai woh toh yad hai ?@@MunnaHossain-cw7mu
@@MunnaHossain-cw7mu the reason is simple.
Kyonki un logo ko itna harass aur bully Kia jaata hai for their existence.
Even parents tak kaafi cases mai saath nahin dete
Patience ka dusra naam "VIMOH"
I doubt he'll ever come to debate vimoh live
hey vimoh u have dropped ur 👑👑(hairs attached)
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Meal was delicious 😊
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Done and dusted 😑. kch bhi bolega ye smile2 😒
That religious guy is just beating around the bush, a befitting reply by Vimoh to all of his weak and hollow arguments
I feel u have overcooked this guy.
Sorry to say but This religious guy doesn't possess enough intellectual fortitude to understand pure rational arguments and fair rebuttals.
He will always be biased towards his own religion and thus will find solace in some god who did break the moon in half.
ad hominem
When God can create the whole universe, splitting the moon is nothing. By the way watch the video of Uthman ibn Farooq about splitting the moon. It is verified by even non muslim sources.
@@Adil-uk7vhno it is not there is no historical(independent) and scientific evidence of moon split
@@Adil-uk7vhYou have to first proof that God even exists before claiming that it created the universe.
If you literally believe someone can actually break the moon in half and then rejoin it back. There is no point in arguing with you anyway.
@@Adil-uk7vhhaan bhai, Neela Armstrong bhi selfie khinchkar aaya tha chand ke joint wali khaai par, jaha se joda gya tha wapas. Mashallulah.
Even though these are a little longer, thoroughly enjoyed this one too
Stop it the food is burnt 😂
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That's one of the most compassionate takes on transpeople in this country. Beautifully put, Vimoh.
I am compelled to express my sincere appreciation for the exceptional quality of your content, particularly your this debunking video. Your meticulous research, coupled with your articulate and grounded arguments, sets you apart in the realm of atheist discourse. Your unwavering commitment to rationality, delivered with a calm and respectful demeanor, is truly commendable. Your ability to dissect religious arguments with precision reflects a profound understanding of the subject matter. It is evident that your dedication to thorough examination enhances the credibility of your responses. In a landscape often marked by polarized discussions, your approach serves as a beacon of intellectual integrity. Discovering someone like you after a long time has been a rare and gratifying experience. Your recent video was nothing short of phenomenal, showcasing not only your depth of knowledge but also your commitment to fostering constructive dialogue. Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the discourse, and I eagerly anticipate more enlightening content from your channel.
In a scenario of dual worlds
One with and one without a divine presence - Atheists remain consistent, drawing their morals from societal sources, thereby abstaining from harm in both Worlds. The question arises for theists, in a godless worlds, reliant on divine morality, would they resort to destructive actions in the absence of God's guidance?
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Ufff
But by default humans are cruel, greedy, destructive force to this nature even without God.
Richard Dawkins explains objective morality beautifully,in God delusion
Great Vimoh sir ⚛️🤩 religion day by day kamjor hoota ja rha hai ab logo ka time aa gya hai ki in sabhi trash old ideologies ko chhodne ka
Responding to this guy is futile, as he is not able to understand your arguments properly.......btw great video vimoh......your response was very refined and to the point..
Don't be scared 😱 and don't delete this comment for those people who have "Faith" in the fraudulent abiogenesis! That this universe created itself by accident and accidents are happening for last 4.5-5billion years! Please explain to me scientifically, mathematically or ontologically even rationally or logically if you dare how can something comes from nothing ❓ how can an unintelligent nature created intelligent beings❓ given the fact that you can't put random natural selection in place of God ‼️ please explain to me how can 0+0+0 ever gives you 1 ❓ and if you think your moral position is right then There is literal genocide is being committed by Zionists in Palestine should be totally fine according to your morality because none of us are answerable to God at judgment day when we will be resurrected and questioned about our deeds and believes! I'll be waiting for your Answer!!!!
@@omairkhan9167 We just go by what the scientific consensus says, which is - Our universe was created by the Big Bang. An overwhelming majority of scientists (99.99% of scientists at the National Academies of Sciences) have examined the scientific evidence behind the Big Bang and accepted it as the most possible way our universe was created. If someone disproves the Big Bang theory or comes up with a completely new theory one day, and it passes the scientific method and gets accepted by the scientific community, he'll probably be awarded the Nobel Prize. No one has yet. Until then, we should accept what the scientific consensus says!
And if you're asking what caused or what existed before the Big Bang, we simply say "We don't know" instead of attributing to to an "all powerful, omnipresent, intelligent, timeless, dimensionless etc." creator or God.
Just FYI, there are 4 major philosophical positions people take when it comes to God:
Gnostic Theist: I KNOW God exists, therefore I believe in him
Agnostic Theist: I don't know whether God exists or not, but still I believe he is there somewhere
Agnostic Atheist: I don't know whether God exists or not, therefore I don't believe in him
Gnostic Atheist: I KNOW God doesn't exist, therefore I don't believe in him
Vimoh and I are agnostic atheists. We're neither acknowledging the existence of God nor claiming God doesn't exist. UNTIL evidence presents itself, agnostic atheists will continue to reject God (That's what I meant by "not believing in him"). Unlike gnostic atheists who are making a claim by saying, "God doesn't exist and we KNOW it" agnostic atheists on the other hand say, "We don't know whether he exists or not, therefore we don't believe in him just yet. If the existence of God is scientifically proven one day (For which we've been waiting for the past 1000 years or so), we'll happily bow down to the almighty!"
Hope that made sense! I can't start a debate here in the replies because I'm busy in real life. Also, it's hard to chat here because half of the replies I post get hidden by UA-cam for some reason. And BTW Vimoh isn't a bad guy. He attacks religious claims and arguments, not people. He stands in solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine. He mostly criticises Hinduism because it's the dominant religion and has the most influence in India (Pakistani atheists criticise Islam and American atheists criticise Christianity for the same reason). I highly recommend you check out his other content if you want to get answers to theistic claims and arguments (This is not to become an atheist but maybe just to get a more rational perspective on things!) Thanks and have a good day! 👋
I digress. It should never be about him personally, but those in the audience who may and can still be persuaded.
It's not about this guy. It's about the arguments, which are pretty widespread arguments, especially in abrahamic faiths.
😂 Vimoh bhai aapne ne "Smile 2 Jannaha" ko Cook krke poora kha liya😭
Ab Jannaha k soo called "Islamic Morality and Science" ka kya hoga🤧
I had the same argument with one of my friends and I thought, he's just stupid, he is a Muslim so the same perspective on morality. Now, I see where it is coming from 😂.
Im an ex muslim and i would like vimoh when this theist states about lgbt as bad morals, vimoh should talk about islamic morals like Laundis (concubines) Halala, No right for women to divorce, woman having half of almost every right, No right for non believers for qisas etc
muslims defend all of it bhai(so do hindus and christians)
@@ItsShershahveere yup and I think vimoh should show them their own claims which even muslims of now don't want to follow
@@reyeseuropeos9153vimoh isn't that educated about islam, and my brother these Islamists are so arrogant, they'd strawman him fr
@@ItsShershahveere but im confuse how you give dawah in such countries where dar al islam doesnt permit to preach
@@reyeseuropeos9153but vimoh isn’t really an ex muslim, so he knows what’s wrong in vedas and shit but not in quran and hadiths
The beef I never expected but am thoroughly enjoying. 😅❤
feels like Christopher Nolan's non linear screenplay. especially when yellow sweat shirt video comes in full screen 😂😂
bro roasting peaceful community in a peaceful manner
hearing vimoh for the first time, he has huge patience and is very calm.
Zeeshan morality(islamic morality)
1.agar kisi place pe muslim rule kar raha ho to non muslim se jaziya tax lo
Muslim ab is cheez ko ye bolke defend karte hai ki muslim zakah tax dete hai lekin inka so called perfect book quran ne zakat ka % decide karke rakha hai (2.5% person income) lekin jaziya tax ka koi % decide nahi hai iska matlab
"Ruler ka kingdom ruler ki marji"
Agar koi non muslim ruled place pe muslim aur non muslim se different tax liya jaye to ye muslim human right islamophobia extremism julm intehapasandi ka gana gayenge
2.lgbtq ko jeene ka koi right nahi hai death penalty honi chahiye
3.agar koi islamic ruled country me koi atheist banna chahta hai to use death penalty kyuki inka so called religion best hai
4. Ager koi admi kisi choti bacchi se shadi aur sex karna chaiye to wo acceptable hai
5. slavery ki khas aynte hai
6. Aurto ko adhi akal ka madro ke barabar nahi samjhna
Bhai thanks for the dinner, it was delicious 😋
विमोह भाई आपने तो जन्नाह को धो कर, सुखा कर, पका कर खा डाला🤣🤣🙏🙏😜
The Theist is debunking himself, but he can't understand that. 😂
Zeeshan of smile2jannah uploaded a short, a day after you posted this video, showing the same clip of articles which he manipulated. The audacity of this man to upload the same content even after being called our for manipulation.
Zeeshan has no shame. What a loser.
He is a very dishonest man. Same like other religious fools.
@@SameersQuestForGod8 he is probably more atheist than vimoh. He just manipulate his emotional audience to gain views and following.
@@Haraex he's not an atheist. He's an extremist musIim
@@Haraex just like Muhammed hijab and Ali dawah
@@pradeepagnel2262 yeah
Talking about objective morality is pointless without first talking about our objectives.
i am convinced @smile2jannahurduhindi doesnt even know what strawman argument means
Jb v kisi religion pr baat ati hai to oo Constitution ke hee baat krne lgte hain.. Lekin dusron ke fundamental rights chin lete hain apne religion ke naam pe.
bilkul 1400 saal se yahi ho rha h bhai
Damn, such a statement
Statement without correct info....
Good observation brother
The dinner was delicious, It was oozing with the smell of burning Zeeshan.
You are knowledgeable smart Atheist Appreciate it was delicious dinner ❤
Vimoh, be ready for the big blow up of channel 🔥
Keep grinding these bigger lie peddlers.
38:51 whole part of article reading questions zesaan bhai ke comprehensive abilities.
Armin Navabi has already exposed this many times. He just cites an article which he doesn’t read completely.
He will not make any response video from now on 🤣
Thanks vimoh, you have made me become more empathetic
Bhai ka first e lfda finished now i want to see the explosion in subscribers 🎉🎉
😂❤
53:35 you are killing it 😂🎉
Vimoh is becoming walter white of atheist
Awesome rebuttals brother vimoh
Omg vimoh 🎉 congratulations for the merch collection 😮😃😃😃❤❤❤❤
No, Vimoh, please don't stop punctuating your videos with these occasional bits of humour. That pinky finger indicating number 1 was just too much fun!
Counter Points are Undefeated and make better sense I appreciate your work
Such noble guidelines for this channel Vimoh Op 🔥
Even though I'm a thiest but I truly love your way of presentation, thaught process . Big fan of yours .
Smile 2 jannath should have read his own evidence/Reference.😂
This guy is such so sad. (not Vimoh, the other one). All of his counter attacks literally feel like answers from my philosophy textbook. Agar itni basic ass criticism hi sunni hoti tau mai pdhai hi nhi kar leti.
Hit like if you also get goosebumps listening these logics
vimoh I love your patience and calm tone while explaining
Funnily almost all of the happiest countries in the world either consist Atheists as majority or second majority lmfao
Agree with you on the homosexuality part. That zeeshan guy is just showing irrelevant researches to justify hate towards homosexuality came from his religion.
Thanks Vimoh for the effort and information you provided via the two videos you made 👏🏽. Love yours and his patience and polite form used by both of you. This usually isn’t the case
Dang vimoh destroyed him here ❤
NICE INTELLECTUAL VIDEO THESE DEBATES RAISES THE IQ OF THE PUBLIC AND THIS IS WHAT I LOVED OF MASS MEDIA EDUCATION❤
Atheist ho
25:38 now zeeshan gonna said hamare desh me minority bahut khush hai hum minority ko equal right dete hai
Human > 🕉☪✝
All religions= 🗑️
Humanity>>>🕉️☪️✡️⚛️✝️
Sometimes people from any ideology kill humanity
There is no humanness without god.
@@lostsun5096delusions....atheist do not have any sense of humanity in them
@@SkepticalScribe3940 Is there any evidence of god?
lagta h smile to janha bas article ke headlines hi read krta h
Its a pure Banger 🎉
1:28:14 I think what people aren't saying loudly here is it will influence,and challenge their kids , family values and subsequently their morality that doesn't align with it.
I'm watching Masterchef Vimoh, while having dinner..
Amazing how you could go through the religious guy's blatant misrepresentations with such a composed attitude. I wish I could do that, and I know that does not come easy.
It's also funny how the religious guy always lies, hides portions of the video, or misrepresents your arguments (immoral actions), while you were being such a gentleman.
If there's one take away, that's that intellectual honesty shouldn't be taken for granted.
its nothing these guys know that thing is that they are few numbers they have to make excuses on that or white wash since the stuff advocated by their religion they wish to practice.
Thank you vimoh for clarity
Wonderful...very good
hey vimoh, u have won it. WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER(fcuk bhai sounds so cringe)
Thanks
One thing I have observed is theists want absolute certainty in everything. They cannot fathom the concept of reasonable science-based confidence, which evolves over time with more data and more consensus.
Hi i am your new subscriber i am from humanshui ka lecter fans
about the abortion topic, i think men should have the right to a "legal abortion" to be able to give up responsibility of the child. in present scenario the decision of the women also affects the man.
In my understanding, women is the major stakeholder in this regard. Her life stays at the risk, she have to bare the pain. In such case, after a discussion between the partners, veto shall lie on her.
Mai ek Muslim family rise hua baad me science padh ke atheist baana hu , baat kya hai ki mere relatives me ek ladkha tha voo LGBTQ se tha , voo unki community log se jaa kr time spend kr raha tha aur une jese dress pehan na yesa kr tha tha lekin bhaut logo ko paata nhi tha voo ladkhe ke bare me , voo Muslim family se tha aur unke family vaalo ne tho bhaut baar warn kiye aur maar bhi rahe the ,lekin vo uski feelings ko kise control kr paye gaaa , isliye voo tho poison deee ke maar diye . Unko jara bhi guilt feel nhi hue , aur police case nhi hue , baas suicide bol ke sob ko juut bole , yaar yesaa itnaa homophobic kyu rha the hai kya moral values hai bhai yee , mai Muslim community ko yesa nhi bol raha hu yese bhaut sare log hai maine mere naked eyes se dheka hu , baas ye log ko itna bhi basic sense nhi raha tha hai kya , LGBTQ tho haar ek animal species me hote hai , science nhi padh the hai ye log
Aap ke relative ke baare mein sun kar bahut bura laga. Kash hum ese society mein ji sakte jaha aapne aap ki ki tarha rehana jurum na mana jata.
Which city this happened?
@@sus527 Andhra pardesh, anthapuram district
@@--atheist bro nuv Telugu vadivi a???
@@mikeymarshallduhgoat yes bro
I love your jokes ❤❤
10:21 wait a min ye bande ka wo he religion hai n jisme jab bacche ko pata tak nahi hota uska without anesthetic circumcision kia jata hai .... correct me if i am wrong
I saw his video before too by UA-cam algorithm. It was very mind irritating experience. All the lies he spreading was right before my eyes. But couldn't do anything for many obvious reasons. From that day I was patiently waiting for someone to debunk his ignorance stupidity and lies. And you clearly did that with excellence.. You made my wish come true. There are lot more to learn from you..❤❤❤❤
This guy talks about nudist beach and baccho ko nuksaan. Now im an ex muslim. Vimoh ask him about "laudio ka satar" or "laundio ka parda" which means the clothings of concubines in islam under shariyah as was during riyasat e medina.
Its clear through saheeh hadeeths and even through quran that there used to roam concubines on the streets of medina under prophets rule under shariyah and they were only allowed to cover from their belly button to their knees and the rest of the body used to be uncovered
There are saheeh hadeeths claiming hazrat umar even did dhishoom dhishoom with 👊👊👊a concubine when he found her covering her chest. Now muslim belief is that riyasat e medina has been the best best olace on earth to live😂 while he criticises germany for such beaches. The thing is germany still restricts foashing in public and such places are only for adults yet he claims it bad while In medina which he would call as the best ever place had uncovered concubines roaming everywhere
The purdah of a free Muslim woman is her whole body , the purdah of the Muslim man is from the navel to the knee , the purdah of the slave woman shockingly is also from the navel to the knee , the purdah of a slave man is from the navel to the knee. Hijab in Islam is only for free women not slave woman
It’s good to see non Muslims with such deep knowledge about Islam before UA-cam it was very easy to fool non Muslims with the sugar coated version of Islam
Really great view's please someone teach him about biological and social side of gender...
Hats off!!
Vimoh Bhai apko ek Michelin star ⭐
Vimoh forgot to mention that morality or peaceful co-existence may have been hardwired into humans as a result of evolutionary selection in psychology. That the reason many people do not go in frenzy to kill others is because maybe natural selection deleted genes which had such tendencies. This is a major research area in evolutionary psychology. Morality is subjective but this subjectivity is shaped by natural selection.
Oh sorry he did say that but he made it into social things. Again, social dynamics are constrained by natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is the overarching guide to human subjectivities.
I think he did that because then he would have to attribute patriarchy and inequalities to natural selection. I am no Peterson fan, but I think there should be a space to study science about inequalities, sex differences and even racial differences. Science is the way forward.
What a detailed response to every claim!
Vimoh❤❤❤
Both science and religion is important as science gives you progression and religion gives you motivation for progression. This is why scientist of ISRO went to Tirupati Temple before launching the Chandrayan. I am talking about Indian Religion only.
Religion is a LIE.
Another brainwashed kid !
Object moralities don't exist. There should be a code of conduct and rules which is an objective thing but morals in itself are not objective even in islam. Just for instance incest and marrying and procreating with blood siblings is illegal in Islam but the thing is the children of Adam and Eve did the same thing as per allah own will/wish. The same thing is a guy can't have more than 4 wives, many prophets were special cases which jad more than 4 wives. This itself shows islam or allah doesn't holds objective morality. A basic principle of objective morality is that it never changes in any given situation
Zeeshan morality(islamic morality)
1.agar kisi place pe muslim rule kar raha ho to non muslim se jaziya tax lo
Muslim ab is cheez ko ye bolke defend karte hai ki muslim zakah tax dete hai lekin inka so called perfect book quran ne zakat ka % decide karke rakha hai (2.5% person income) lekin jaziya tax ka koi % decide nahi hai iska matlab
"Ruler ka kingdom ruler ki marji"
Agar koi non muslim ruled place pe muslim aur non muslim se different tax liya jaye to ye muslim human right islamophobia extremism julm intehapasandi ka gana gayenge
2.lgbtq ko jeene ka koi right nahi hai death penalty honi chahiye
3.agar koi islamic ruled country me koi atheist banna chahta hai to use death penalty kyuki inka so called religion best hai
@@sunilsabat-0483 yes lmfao
While it's true that religious doctrines, including those in Islam, contain specific rules and codes of conduct that may appear to change or have exceptions, proponents of objective morality would argue that these variations are not necessarily indicative of the absence of objective moral principles.
Interpretation and Context:
The interpretation of religious texts can vary, and different scholars or followers may have different perspectives on certain moral teachings. In the case of Islam, scholars often emphasize the importance of understanding the historical and cultural context in which certain rules were established. This context may explain apparent exceptions or variations in moral guidance.
Divine Command Theory:
Some proponents of objective morality argue from a perspective known as Divine Command Theory. According to this view, moral principles are grounded in the commands of a divine being, such as Allah in Islam. From this standpoint, variations in moral rules can be seen as specific commands given by the divine in response to particular circumstances, rather than a departure from objective morality.
Moral Objectivity vs. Application:
Objectivity in morality doesn't necessarily mean that specific rules or practices are unchanging in all circumstances. It can be argued that the underlying moral principles remain objective, while the application of these principles may vary based on different situations and historical contexts. For example, the prohibition against incest may be grounded in the broader objective of promoting healthy family structures.
Special Cases and General Rules:
The presence of special cases, such as prophets with more than four wives, could be seen as exceptions to general rules. Proponents of objective morality might argue that these exceptions were specific to certain individuals and periods, serving unique purposes in the broader moral framework.
In summary, the argument doesn't necessarily disprove the concept of objective morality. It highlights the need for careful interpretation, consideration of context, and acknowledgment of different perspectives within a religious or moral framework. The existence of apparent exceptions does not negate the possibility of underlying objective moral principles.
@@lasyak6355 the reasoning would still remain idiocy filled. Their god claims to be omnipotent and can do anything and everything, so by definition he would never have to contradict his own self to perform a task.
Their god claims of objective morality too which would never change, he also claims he can do anything and knows everything (both of the statements actually contradict each other) so as written earlier, a being who knows everything and can do everything, bu definition would never have to contradict himself by any means no matter the situation
You are excellent
why you wasting your bandwidth on this guy vimoh; he's obviously obsessed with his own fixations.
😂😂tum yaha kyu aa gayi Andhbhakt dd😂 Cow cola lover❤❤😂
@@ex-hinduatheistdevsen184She's speaking in support of Vimoh, see her most recent comments bruh...
@@ex-hinduatheistdevsen184 bro aap atheist ho ... Atheists ka naam na karo ... Respectfully baat karo .
Reproducibility and objectivity are two fundamental pillars of scientific research. Reproducibility ensures that the results of a study can be independently verified by other researchers, thus strengthening the evidence and building upon existing work. Objectivity, on the other hand, is an attempt to uncover truths about the natural world by eliminating personal biases, emotions, and false beliefs. It is often linked to observation as part of the scientific method and is thus intimately related to the aim of testability and reproducibility. Religion has its failure on empirical grounds.
Criticize Islamic morality he will not understand morality of secular values.
Vimoh bhai, iss bewakoof ko bhool jao. Guardian is a journalism organization, science direct is not a journal but a database which hosts various journals and sage is a publisher which has many journals. Usko science kaise function karti hai yahi nahi pata😊
Dinner was delicious👌
Kudos Vimoh , that is why I always ask for evidence 🎉. Good one you explained the papers it was a boomerang for him 🪃 49:23