THE GODFATHER PART II (1974) Movie Reaction Part (2/2)! | Al Pacino | Robert De Niro | Robert Duvall
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- After watching The Godfather, Achara and Steph are back with the sequel to, 'The Godfather Part 2"
We wanted to provide all we could by splitting our reaction into two parts.
This film is directed by Francis Ford Coppola and it also stars: Robert Duvall (The Apostle, The Judge, Jack Reacher, The Road, & Deep Impact), Diane Keaton (Annie Hall, Father of the Bride & Something’s Gotta Give), Talia Shire (Rocky, The Dunwich Horror & Windows), John Cazale (The Deer Hunter, Dog Day Afternoon & The Conversation), Lee Strasberg (The Mirror Has Two Faces, Going in Style & Boardwalk Empire) & Michael V. Gazzo (Black Sunday, Fear City & King of New York).
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Francis Coppola said that GF2 was his chance to tell a story about a man who damns himself. Notice that at the peak of Vito's power, he's surrounded by family.
At the peak of Michael's power, he's sitting alone.
This is sort of yes but kinda not. People misread part II as "If only Michael was like Vito things would have turned out different" and they ignore the obvious facts before their eyes:
Michael is exactly like Vito. They are both monsters.
Young Vito didn't have to kill Fanucci because by that time he had already figured out that Fanucci was a fake mobster with no real power. And you aren't supposed to feel good about watching Vito gut an old feeble and defenseless Don Cicco.
The fact is, they are the same people, outcome with different circumstances. But people latch on to the their first impressions, so people's lasting impression is of Vito in the wedding tuxedo holding court over the greater community, never mind that that that onion slowly gets peeled over the course of two movies. We see in Vito a mobster who made it into old age, the camera didn't show us how he got their (like how he got Johnny Fontaine out of his contract...)
Put Vito in Michael's place and it would have turned out the same.
I always viewed GF2 as a sad movie, especially near the end of the movie. The last scene showing Michael is just sad for me.
@@Joskemom It's one of the greatest tragedies in film. Tragedies are actually quite rare, most studios don't have the balls to do it. A lot of movies have actually been changed to a happy ending because the test audience didn't like it. So most studios especially today make films based on algorithm and the test audience.
Man, if John Cazale didn’t die so young, he would’ve been an all time great actor
Agreed!
Facts
He still is. He made five movies, and every single one is an all-timer, and every single one of those performances is perfect. How many actors can say that?
Of the most underrated in his time.
Technically the most successful actor ever as every movie he was in was nominated for best picture at the Oscar’s
It breaks my heart in the ending, where Fredo was the only one that offers Michael his support. And then, during Vito’s birthday celebration Michael sits alone. Brilliant cinema.
John Cazale (Fredo) came up with the idea of sitting in that bobbing chair, when Fredo is being questioned by Michael, to make Fredo look even more pathetic-looking and ineffectual in that scene. Now that’s great acting!
Cazale was actually brilliant as Fredo. So utterly believable, he WAS Fredo. But usually overlooked
Cazale was universally respected. He was in 5 films which were nominated for best picture (Godfather, GF II, The Conversation, Deer Hunter, Dog Day Afternoon) He was close friends with Pacino and DeNiro, who advocated for his being cast in their other films.
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Also dated a young Meryl Streep.
Not just dated, they were engaged when he died
John Cazale’s Fredo is the most underrated part of the story. The scene with Michael is so poignant, and I identify so much with being the passed over son. “There would be something in it for me.”
The parallel stories contrast Vito and Michael. Both are ambitious, intelligent, and quite coldly calculating. But they were different in their ambitions. Vito’s ambition was to take care of his family, have the respect and regard of those around him (not fear because he was a threat to them), and not be made a fool. Michael’s ambition was different, it was for wealth and power. Even as he justified it as being for the family, his murder of Fredo tells us otherwise.
Vito starts alone, with his family murdered. Michael ends up alone, his family disintegrated. (But the flashback scene indicates that he was always alone, aloof from the family. As he said in the first movie, “I’m not like them”.)
Something I noticed on my second or third viewing of this movie is Kay’s reaction right after the attempted hit at their Tahoe home. She’s sitting on the couch and she looks at Michael with such hatred. The illusion that she is safe has been shattered. Michael failed to protect her. I think that is the moment she decides to leave Michael.
There's a quote in one of my favorite book that perfectly sums up the problem with Fredo : "Stupidity isn't a victimless crime."
Isnt obvious. Ussually the stupid become the victim.
@@bbudimanalqodri Or they cause people to get hurt even if they had no "Bad intentions"
25:50 Vito's partner was Don Tommasino - one of the region's mafia leaders. He was shot in the leg after Vito killed Don Ciccio.
We see an older and disabled Tommasino in the first film. He was Michael's protector during his exile in Sicily.
Spoiler.....
In GFIII, an elderly Don Tomasino is there in Sicily in a wheelchair.
Oh MY!😃❤ There's so many things one just keeps finding about the movie!
@@kalakritistudios... The Godfather Saga is the gift that keeps on giving!
As a second generation Sicilian from the Bronx, I can assure you that everything in GFII rings true to the time and place. My grandfather came to NYC in 1908, so his family grew up in the same neighborhood as Vito's. His hometown in Sicily was a few miles from Corleone and it all looks like that. The history is pretty solid.
Funny..as a kid, my neighbor from across the street dad came from Corleone..we thought the place was made up but it really did exist.
Yeah, and sadly the portrayal of the large majority of grown men being dead or in prison in the town of Corleone due to rampant vendetta killings in the 1800s is pretty solid as well. The town of Corleone produced a great number of American mob members as well. Later, the Corleonisi were the most violent and treacherous of the numerous native Sicilian mafia families. It's almost like there is something in the water. I wonder about the history of that particular area of Sicily in the centuries before the 1800s and if there might have even been some sort of selective genetic pressure on the population to churn out a particularly violence-prone people.
My Great Grandfather came to the United States around the same time he was born in Trieste Italy 🇮🇹 at the time it was ruled by Austria 🇦🇹 just that city cause at the time it was the second largest port besides Naples and then Franz Fernindand was assassinated and wwI started. He was born in 1897 and came to the us in 1907 and settled in the Bronx on the Grand concourse.
Also, if I'm not wrong, Al Pacino's grandparents were from Corleone right?
@@RW-rt5nd That's not enough time for selective genetic pressure to produce a result. Socialization maybe, but not genetics.
The reason Michael was obsessed with having another son is because Anthony was very similar to Fredo, sweet child but would never be able to take over the family business, just didn’t have the personality for it, so it was no secret he was excited for another son who would be heir to the throne. That’s why Kay refused to have another baby that would be destined to become a copy of his father, putting an end to “this Sicilian thing”. His anger and grief went beyond just losing a child.
You think? I'd never considered that. Very interesting observation.
I don't see it that way, because Michael hasn't given up on the idea of successfully going legit. So Anthony doesn't have to be a mobster, as he conceives the future. He can be a lawyer, businessman, politician. I think it's just this old-school Italian worship of the sons. I had a colleague who grew up in a VERY ITALIAN family, parents from Italy, and it was all about the boys.
Vito's business isn't mentioned much, but it's just standard rackets (except drugs) under cover of an olive oil import company. He does favors as a way to get personal loyalty and protection, not as a business strategy. Michael doesn't understand that and throws it all away, trading in his father's empire of personal relationships for one of paranoia and raw violence.
Michael was also deluding himself into thinking that he was soon gonna go legit and leave the mafia world behind. Every time he shifter away from street level crime, it made his street capos like Frank Pantangeli look weaker so they lost their faith in Michael. Michael then had to respond with drastic violence to reassert his power and protect himself and his family. Vito knew that a mob boss cannot go legit and at best he could arrange for his children to live a legit life (as he wanted for Michael).
I think what is also overlooked is the back story of Michael's war experience and how it shaped the man who would be Don. Michael was no stranger to death being a highly decorated officer in the Marine Corps, which means he most certainly killed men in bunches with weapons and with his hands in hand to hand combat. When he comes home from the war, none of his brothers fully understand that Little Mikey is now a killer and is more ruthless than all his brothers put together. They still treat him as a subordinate even though a Captain in the Marines means he led hundreds of men into combat and orchestrated all their movements and strategies. Vito led the family as a family man, Michael ran the family as a military operation !!
@@tonygourdine512 One might say that Vito was a king, but Michael is a dictator. He badly misunderstood his father's maxim about "friends close and enemies closer." Vito meant that everything is personal. Michael thinks it means the opposite.
Their different outcomes prove who was right: Vito dies happy with his grandson among his tomatoes in the Sun; Michael sits alone in the winter, staring at nothing.
It makes sense why Michael did what he did cause all he saw was backstabbing all the time and (through back) never letting anybody knows what he is thinking so he kept his cards close to his chest but his dad and all the people he grew up with had nothing so everyone relied on loyalty and trust not money sadly once Michael killed he his fate was sealed
@@tonygourdine512 Let's also keep in mind what came after. Lots of guys came back and were able to find happy lives, but Michael gets hit by fortune over and over again - first his father is killed (for which he enacts revenge), then his brother is killed, then his wife is killed. Say what you will about his upbringing and family, but that couldn't help but turn him hard (since he was never the kind to fall apart). He might have avoided his fate had he not been hunted down by that very same destiny.
No one does the cold menacing stare like Al Pacino ! No one !
The brother of frank pentangelli was there just to remind him about the "omerta", the honor code of sicilian mafia
I wonder what became of Willie Cicci? He testified against the Family, same as Pentageli!! Did Cicci have to take a "hot bath", (snicker) himself?
I’ve read something interesting about the Godfather saga. Each son represents a different side of Vito’s personality. Sonny his passion Freddy his humor and sweet nature and Mike his “business” side.
What about Connie? She was savage in the 3rd film! #ConstanziaCorleone
Talia shire who plays Connie, was nominated for best supporting actress even though she was only in the movie for 11 minutes
I can see why. The scene with her pleading for Fredo, with Michael in the shadows, has somehow always been my favourite in this one.
Diane Keaton should have been nominated. She was outstanding.
@@jackwalsh6758 and the final scene in GF1 when she was hysterical over Michael killing her husband. It was superb acting all around... a great movie where we forgot actors were acting.
Talia Shire is so great in both films. My god, the acting is insanely good on every level. Even the small parts like Mr. Genco, the owner of the grocery store, or Signor Roberto, the landlord. I'm in awe of that performance whenever I see it. They all add to the feeling of authenticity that have made these films so timeless.
These movies are so rich with themes, philosophy, politics, psychology and character. that's what makes them so re-watchable. Give Part III a go, if for no other reason than to see how Michael's character develops with the hindsight of his age. It's not as good as the first two, but still better than 95% of all other films.
The new Coda does well in the retelling. it can't stop at 2
These first two are truly CINEMA MASTERPIECES (unmatched for me). And the third one, although it´s not at the same level in my opinion, it´s a great great movie (and totally underrated). It´s a perfect ending for the trilogy.
Worth a watch to complete the story, but I would not call 3 great...it's a very good movie marred by a last-minute casting decision, not that they really had a choice at the time.
100% agree in fact I just wrote saying something similar above.
@@flarrfan She's obviously not a great actress but I don't think her casting is in the top 10 worst things about the movie tbh
Don't know if it has been mentioned but when Fredo was sick as a baby, he had high fever with it and he had some damage from that which is why he is a little slow. People outside the family knew it as well and used it against him.
I always felt sorry for Fredo.
That scene with Michael and Tom with the capos talking about killing Roth, I always felt they were subliminally talking about Fredo, and Tom trying to talk Michael out of it but Michael wouldn’t budge.
That's a valid argument.
Cinematographer Gordon Willis was known for experimenting with darkness and underexposure. In the documentary VISIONS OF LIGHT, he acknowledges that there is one scene in this film where he goes too far, but adds, "I think Rembrandt went too far a couple of times."
The Connie scene is my favorite bc it's so emotional. I cry because she pledges her loyalty to Michael, not because he's the Don, but because he is her brother who needs her now. 😢 And I cry because she pleads for her other brother, Fredo, and wants to protect him. 😭 In this scene, you can feel how she just wants to protect both of her brothers. 😢 ❤
I was 22 years old when I watched The Godfather for the first time. It took me some time to realize the theme "family" played in these films. From Connie's wedding when Vito refused to have a family photo taken without Michael... almost every scene in GF1 had children running around, babies crying, women crowded in the kitchen cooking. We saw how the family rushed to Vito when he came home from the hospital. And, the final scene where Vito's last breath was playing with his grandson. And, then we watched Michael destroy his family. It was the attempted assasination of his father, the killing of his brother and then his young bride that pushed Michael over the edge. He could trust no one. Each frame of the movie drew us in. Every frame felt as if we were watching real life beginning with the opening wedding scene with the old gentleman singing. It was difficult to believe the man was an actor playing a roll. We forgot we were watching actors act. The movie is like a drug that sucks us in and holds it's grip on us. You should watch interviews with Francis Ford Coppola about how this first-time director got his movie made and how it almost didn't get made. He had to fight the studio for everything. Watching your reactions to these timeless films warms my heart, I don't know why, but it does. I really enjoy both of your critiques and reactions. Thank you for sharing a bit of your time and life with us. [Subscribed, Liked and Commented] :)
Great reaction, CinePals! The reason behind Frank Pantangelis brother showing up was to remind Frank, never to betray the family. In doing so, your punishment is losing your life. A tactic that goes to show how cunning Michael Corleone is! Once again, great reaction CinePals!
It also showed Frank Michael did not betray him because he knew his brother could not have been forced to show up at the hearing.
It was even deeper than that, it meant family shame, loss of honor and isolation back in the old country. His brother old school mafiosi, was there looking at him saying, "what the hell are you doing bro??" Ratting on your boss was a fate worse than death. Some pretty deep stuff they were crankin' in this film.
Vito: "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man"
Michael (after killing his brother, brother-in-law, dad's oldest friends, and kicking out his wife): "Yeah, about that ..... "
Hyman Roth is based on Meyer Lansky (1902-1983) who along with Charles "Lucky" Luciano, organized the 1929 Atlantic City conference which set the structure for organized crime in the United States.
and Mo Green was based on Bugsy Siegel, Meyer’s childhood friend and ran the operation for the vegas strip’s early construction
lucky Luciano was deported back to Italy from the Havana Conference
He also financed the construction of my home town, but people keep editing the town’s Wiki to leave that out. Instead there is usually only a vague mention of one of his proxies.
Robert DeNiro won “best supporting actor” for this role.
Al Pacino was nominated for his roll as Michael Corleone in both parts one and two. He did not win. He did not win an Oscar until “Scent of a Woman”.
Both “The Godfather” and “The Godfather - Part II” won the Oscar for “Best Picture”.
Watch Part III if you want, but it’s really not that good.
Nothing against Art Carney, but he shouldn't have won over both Pacino AND Jack Nicholson in Chinatown.
Don't think 3 is that bad in a vacuum. But when it follows two of the greatest films of all time, it seems a lot worse than it it
Brando and DeNiro were the only two actors to win Oscars for playing the same character until Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix both won for playing the Joker.
@@daryllyew62 and Rita Moreno and Ariana DeBose for the 2 versions of WEST SIDE STORY
21:45 Pantangeli's brother also lived by the code of omerta.
Frank could not stomach the thought of betraying the code in front of his brother.
What makes this movie so perfect is you see how Vito Corleone evolved and improved as a husband, a father and especially as a mob boss; while Michael broke bad like Walter White as all of those things.
One of the best reactions to these classics I've seen. Your appreciation for the timeless aspect of this film was spot-on. Pacino and DeNiro have never been better, which is saying an awful lot. To me, Robert Duvall stands out as the third of the great performances in the saga. But there isn't a bad performance by anyone. I've probably seen both films at least twenty times and take joy in seeing others mesmerised by this art.
Same! I would add Diane Keaton to that list.
From the UK, it's been lovely watching this epic journey with you both, so many compassionate observations. Always makes me tearful watching Al Pacino and John Cazale embrace after reading how brotherly close their friendship was before Cazale passed in 1978. So sad...
My favorite part of the movie was always the scene at the end with the Christmas family dinner. I've never seen the last minutes of a movie bookend the story that beautifully. Knowing what happened to Fredo, and then seeing him being the only one happy for Michael enlisting. Seeing Sonny again, look at his face after he initially tries to rough Michael up, that's not anger..that's worry. He's scared for his brother. Then him alone at the table. Always isolated.
Exactly! Santino was very protective of his family❤
I'm the same age as Michael's son, Anthony. And my family is analogous to Michael's in many ways - my dad was 1st generation Sicilian-American Catholic, my mom was homegrown American Protestant. We heard our grandparents speak the native Sicilian dialect, and we understood much of the day-to-day language. You see that these Godfather stories are like scenes from our lives.
Your reactions are deep, heartfelt, and true. They show understanding and appreciation. Thank you.
This is why I believe Kay was his one true love. Even after everything that happened
Michael is a terrible person incapable of affection, unable to love. In contrast, Vito was a strong and loving father. The Godfather part 2 is a tragedy, an exploration of human misery. Michael is an empty, hateful, dark void. A great film, one of the best ever.
Cheers ladies 🍺
Love that Deniro sometimes does a Brando impression and sometimes is simply Robert Deniro
The subtlety of having Frank Pentangelli’s brother there is that, as both of them were in the life, Frank would have to break his oath of silence in front of his closest relative - something he wasn’t prepared to do
Please watch Dog Day Afternoon for more of Pacino and Cazale together. That scene with the two of them in the boathouse is one of my all-time favorites. So is the Diane Keaton-Pacino hotel room scene.
Godfahers I & II are much more an extended Shakespearean saga than mob movies. And you are absolutely right ladies, they are both masterpieces in their own right and an even greater one when combined. Personally I find GF I to be my favorite, but that takes nothing away from II. Like probably millions of others, I can watch this hundreds of times and still love every minute of it. Truly American cinematic masterpieces well deserving of the title greatest movies ever made.
You really can't beat these beautiful classics... There are so many more to see like this , as a suggestion try to see " 12 Angry Men "
Did you realize that the two guys with young Vito are the young Clemenza and the young Tessio? Also, Tommasino who gets shotgun hit in the legs when they are fleeing the killing of the old Don in Corleone, is the same person on crutches that was responsible for helping hide Michael in the first "Godfather"
What kills a movie reaction, for me, is when one or more reactor is clearly not invested in the film, so thank you for giving this one the attention it deserves!
To find out how Michael felt about taking out his brother, you HAVE to watch Godfather Part III.
Don’t watch that movie. Its terrible
Part 3 didn’t feel like a sequel it felt like a B graded godfather
@@daltexmexof course they should listen to people on the internet and not form their own opinions 😂😂😂
Exactly I hope they watch part 3 just to get some of their questions answered 3 might not be as good but it finishes the series
@@daltexmexit’s not terrible. No it’s not anywhere close to the perfection the first two are but it’s still a solid movie.
I know you mentioned that Vito and Michael are 'the same', but the juxtaposition defies that sentiment...Vito was strong, honorable and beloved by his family....Michael was ruthless and feared
:50 BEST REACTION EVER and right out of the gate on part 2 reaction. Some of the best physical acting by Al Pacino.
John Cazale (Fredo) was in 5 movies over a 7 year period and all 5 were nominated for best picture with 3 of them winning. Talk about a dream career. Sadly it was a short career, but wow. Really enjoyed the 2 of you again. Really great reaction and commentary. There are a few movies I would really enjoy seeing the two of you react to, if you ever get the urge and of course if you haven't seen them. Just a few suggestions. The Sting, The Great Escape, Tombstone and there are more of course. Oh and one really good movie that doesn't get much attention any more. The Hustler. Paul Newman plays a young pool player Fast Eddie Felson and one night he ends up in a pool hall playing aginst one of the greatest pool players/hustlers Minnesota Fats played by Jackie Gleason. No great scenery or CGI. Just a handful of characters acting their butts off. Hope to see more of the two of you together. You play off of each other really well. Stay safe and well!
Michael giving Fredo the “Judas” kiss was chefs kiss perfect.❤
watched this as a teen ,watched this as an adult and as a old man. IT never gets old, just me. ❤❤😂😂
Even though it's not as well regarded as the first two movies, The Godfather Part 3 is worth a watch in my opinion. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's great to see what happened to everyone some 20 years after the end of The Godfather Part 2.
Another movie you might want to watch is a movie called "The Freshman". It's a comedy from 1990 (actually the same year that The Godfather Part 3 came out) with a young Matthew Broderick and, amazingly, Marlon Brando reprising his role as The Godfather - sort of. I don't want to give anything away but it's a fun movie for any fan of The Godfather movies.
Vito actually had a great woman as his wife and companion. (The scene where vito lost his job and only brings a pear home, and she exclaims. She appreciated the lil things). Michael wasn't so lucky in that department.
Michael chose poorly, imho. Not that Kay was a bad person, just not for Michael.
I mean your example is one where Vito does something and his wife is grateful, what did we ever see Michael do for his wife lol
What's that supposed to mean?
He did everything in his power to protect The Family. Who else could have done it?
Not sure if you know the kiss of death meaning. That Michael gave Fredo. It is an actual gesture used in real life and movies long before this movie showed it.
Judas & Jesus
I love these movies. I have watched countless reactions to them and you guys are by far the best I've seen on youtube. I can't wait to watch more of you two together.
I really had some hope they would catch one thing that no other reactors have, even when I've warned a couple in comments to the first film to watch for it in part 2, and that's the symmetry of the closing scene in 1 and Michael closing the door on Kay in 2.
Michael: "WAS IT A BOY?!"
Achara: "Why does it matter?"
It absolutely matters. Michael is the Patriarch in a rigidly patriarchal Sicilian family. He wants SONS. He doesn't want daughters.
Michael married Kay for one reason: so that she could bear him children - MALE children.
If Vito had only had one son, Santino, then his death would have marked the end of their lineage. As bad as this seems now, it was a big deal to have multiple sons to carry on the family name back then.
@@brandonb.5304 ...Indeed, it was a longtime tradition, going back millennia. Babies died quite often. Children got sick and died.
Sons were sent off to war and were killed. Families had to be fruitful and multiply. Many sons were needed to carry the family name and run the estate, to run the business or farm and to provide labor.
Yea back then sons represented strenght and the survival of the lineage.
My Sicilian grandfather had 6 children- 2 boys and 4 girls. The boys all died of disease as children, but his eldest daughter maintained the family name as her husband was killed in WW2 while they were still newlyweds. She was my Godmother, and very important in my life. It became a matriarchy after grandpa died in 1965, but it sure as hell was a traditional family.
Remember even Luca Brasi purposely telling the Don that he hoped his daughter's "first child will be a masculine child."
both were brilliant... i cant even watch the third one again it ruins how magical these first two were
I would like re-watching 3 more if there was a real actress playing a key role. In any case, it's an overall good movie that doesn't ruin anything from the first two and has one of Pacino's best ever scenes IMO, where he's doing his confession to the future pope. Not meant as a spoiler but an incentive to see how it happens and goes.
Now you have to watch heat, where Robert De Niro and Al Pacino have one of the greatest scenes in film history
If you’re interested the is a version of both Godfather films edited together in chronological order with about 45 minutes of extra footage. It was released in 81’ as a miniseries as
The Godfather the complete epic 2:54
In the end Mike won the war but lost his family.
In that culture you need sons to inherit the duty of protecting the family, it is part of their tradition, it does not mean that the daughters are not as loved as the sons. It was cool to see that you see that Kay was as you said "too waspy" for Michael, he really needed a sicilian wife. Wonderful reaction!
This is true in every part of the world since the creation of humanity. Only mor0ns today in the western propagandized worlds think otherwise.
I was just thinking about it today. Kay always needed certainty from the start, she was always questioning Michael. Vito's wife knew what was up, but never stuck her nose in it, but was always Vito's counsel for help. She didn't question Vito when he was out of a job, or when he brought an expensive rug to their home. You can also see Michael visiting her for her advice, not Kay's.
He DID NOT need a Sicillian wife! Kay was the true love of his life.
@@tmayofour That is twisted
this is such an awesome reaction
Watching you two watch this film put a dumb smile on my face.
This movie came out in 1974, two years after the first movie. Both movies won Oscars and were nominated for more.
Francis Ford Coppola wasn't sure if Marlon Brando would participate in the last scene or not, so he wrote the scene to include or not include don Vito.
Apparently, Marlon Brando was supposed to be in that final flashback scene, but ever the erratic, he didn't show up. So Coppola quickly rewrote the scene.
Now I want to suggest that you do watch part III. Probably best to pick the recent recut, called "Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone." No, it's not as good as the first two, but what could be? You will notice one character's absence, as well as some casting choices. But it does have its good parts. Al Pacino is always top notch.
IMO, it's good that Vito wasn't in that scene. The flashback was all about Michael reflecting on his past, what he had wanted to do with his life....only to see it fail miserably.
@@Stogie2112 - Well, we don't know exactly how it would have looked. The whole movie contrasted Michael and Vito, so it might have been nice to see them together in one scene, before all the bad things happened.
@@Yngvarfo …. Sure, it may have been a great scene. Seeing Vito again would have been cool.
My only concern is that Vito’s presence may have overshadowed Michael. The shot of him all alone in the dining room, thinking about his future, was awesome. It led right to the very last scene of Michael, all alone, lamenting his past.
Originally it was supposed to be Clemenza running the NY portion of the Corleone Family in this movie. But when they couldn't come to an agreement with the actor who played Clemenza, Richard Castellano, they created the character of Frank Pentangeli and killed off Clemenza.
I'm sure you looked it up later but both The Godfather and The Godfather Part 2 won Best Picture Oscars. For many years the Godfather Part 2 was the only sequel to win Best Picture but years later The Return of the King (which, of course, was actually the THIRD movie in the series) won.
Frank Pentangili's brother simply reminded Frank of the oath he took (omerta) and that his brother vouches for Michael
It was Sonny who introduced Carlo to his sister Connie and that pissed Sonny even more when his friend started abusing his sister.
Both Godfather 1 and 2 improve with each watch. You'll appreciate the details in each scene. In that final scene when Sonny grabs Michael for joining the Marines, a child says "mommy, daddy is fighting again". Amazing.
37:40 Great films, just like great music and great novels, NEVER age. They are eternal!
A great story/screenplay, acting, direction and cinematography are all you need to have a great film.
People today tend to be very biased against older films, as there are no modern-day special effects in the films. It's a big mistake.
The Kay reveal scene is iconic… but he did marry a good girl from Sicily remember? The only reason he married Kay is that his first wife died in Sicily from the car bomb that was meant for him. I’m guessing Kay never knew about the other girl because she might not have married Michael if she knew she was his second choice. She never should have married him because she knew Michael was in exile for nefarious reasons, but she also didn’t want to know or was in denial.
Please do watch the 3rd part too, people say it's the worst, but I personally feel it's just as good.
It is NOT just as good, but it’s a lot of fun seeing everybody again, and Pacino and Keaton and especially Talia Shire are damn’ good. Coppola said he badly needed cash when Paramount came to him to make Part III but their condition was that it had to be in cinemas in like nine months. (Another movie had gone away leaving a hole in their holiday release schedule.) Coppola wasn’t against the idea of making Part III and he did his best under crazy time pressure but I wish the studio had given him another six months for him and Puzo to nail down the script. Unfortunately, unlike with Part II Coppola had no leverage over the studio so he had to bow to their wishes. So Part III is a bit of a step down in quality from the other two, but there certainly are worse movies out there.
Truly one of the best original AND sequels in film history. This is what happens when the universe aligns and everything comes together. FANTASTIC reactions ladies. You are the best!
The Best Movie (movies) ever made. I've watched it literally DOZENS of times ( and the many 'reactions' videos well),,,,, BRILLIANCE on every level
32:55 -- Fredo says a Hail Mary every time he puts his line in the water. This may be a reference to something else -- In Hamlet, he chose to not kill his uncle while the man was praying, lest his uncle's soul go to Heaven. Even a "bad" person was believed to go to Heaven if they were killed *while* praying.......
The murder of Freddo was the one murder comitted/ordered by Michael was the unforgivable one. It shows what can be done with great acting , writing and lighting. The still camera work with the long shots as characters go in and out is a lesson to so called film makers today with the jump cuts and explosions in place of proper writing. Just look at the BBC serial I, Claudius, which had a very low budget but the acting was so incredible as was the camera work, that it is rivetting even now.
After watching this movie you guys must watch Once upon a time in America, director Sergio Leone. This is another master piece.
Both films won Best Picture at the Oscars, Marlon Brando won best Actor, and Robert De'Niro took home the Academy Award for Best Supporting, they both won oscars for playing the same person. Francis Ford Coppola won Best Director for the Godfather part 2.
I loved your reaction!!Achar's sensitivity is so touching
It was the first movie to have "Part II" attached to the title, and both films did win Best Picture Oscars!
“The Godfather” and “The Godfather, Part II” both won best picture. Francis Ford Coppola on won best director for Part II. Brando and DeNito won Oscars for playing Vito. Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor, respectively. The only Oscar Pacino has won was for “A Scent Of A Woman”
Both I and II won the Oscar for Best Picture. Brando won Best Actor for playing Vito in part I and DeNiro won Best Supporting Actor for playing Vito in part II.
The coldness of these two blood thirsty chicks is astounding... and hilarious. 😭
My take on these two films is this; Part 1 is the greatest film ever made (and my personal favorite movie) and Part 2 is the greatest sequel ever made. Part 2 is really the second half of one grand sprawling epic, and I've always viewed Parts 1 and 2 as one huge film. The two together are master classes in film, unsurpassed on every level.
You want to see another timeless movie? Watch 12 Angry Men you gonna love it
GODFATHER 1&2 ARE TWO OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME
Your reactions to this film are why I love watching reaction videos. To see the film again for the first time through fresh eyes is such an impactful experience, and your reactions were fantastic. It helped me appreciate all the more just how transcendentally fantastic the Godfather films are.
16:32 - I'm only just realizing the guy who opened the door for the landlord also played Frank Carbone in 'Goodfellas'.
And, of course, Johnny Ola was played by Uncle Junior from The Sopranos.
Lovely reaction - thanks for helping us reconnect w these beloved classics - I think the role of Don felt natural to Vito, whereas Michael felt imprisoned by it - he'd fought hard to escape this fate, and now he masochistically wraps himself in this role and uses it as a shield to separate himself and to lash out at others - in some way it's like he's destroying himself the more powerful he gets - for other similar and powerful experiences, see Once Upon a Time in America, The Funeral, and The Yards - for precursors, see The Leopard and The Conformist, major influences, and Citizen Kane - re Pacino, he was Strasberg's student, and this kind of private turmoil in Michael exemplifies the introspective approach the Method is known for - for another Oh My God Stanislavski experience, see Kazan's Streetcar Named Desire, On the Waterfront, and East of Eden
- regarding Kay's actions, it's not just her marriage she's talking about - her announcement is an open rebellion against the Order of Things that Michael represents and dominates - her exact words are This Must All End - the meaning was clear in 1974; do we still understand what it means? Godfather 2 is passing judgement on Michael, and in the end he's left alone, frozen and damned, like Lucifer the Fallen Angel in Dante's Ninth Circle, stuck in ice, mindlessly devouring the betrayers of Rome
Great job ladies and please do watch this movie again and again..there so many key things in this movie that get missed. So much stuff like; when Deniro was walking back to his family after killing Fanucci and he walks past the fireworks and sparklers going off and it's Deniro's silhouette in the backdrop highlighted by the fireworks and light, signifying the coronation and emergence of the new Don. Subtle but so perfect.. Movies like this are true works of art with excellence at every aspect. Anyway..great review!
1974 was quite the year: this and Chinatown, two of the greatest ever made and The Conversation is up there as well. I still rate the first Godfather higher, but the ending of 2 is as good as it gets.
If you watch how Fanucci acted, you might notice that he's always alone. He walks through the neighborhood, threatening some and stealing from others, and gives nothing back. So when he's attacked, no one cares.
Vito learns from that what NOT to do.
The entire family dynamic would have been different if Appolonia had not been killed. She would have been a better wife for Michael than Kay. In Cuba, Michael given Fredo "the kiss of death' - he's a goner. Vincenzo Pentangeli was shocked that his brother Frank was about to betray the Family and break the tradition of omertà, silence. According to that tradition, you keep your mouth shut. You don't tell on anyone, not even your worst enemy. You go to prison, you die, you leave town forever, but you do not tell. When Vito goes back to kill the old don, the man who gets shot in the legs and ends up in the wheelchair is Don Tomasso from the first movie. At the mother's funeral, you noticed the look that Michael gave to Neri. You did notice that, at the final dinner scene, Fredo is the only one who congratulates Michael.
This film is a good study in contrasts, Vito versus Michael. Vito is Old World, loyal, devoted to his wife. He rules his business with a mixture of fear and respect. Vito shows respect to everyone, even to his enemies. Michael rules through fear alone. He's an Italian-American, not an Old World Italian. He's got a different value base.
There is a third movie that is not as good as the first two, but it closes Michael's story. I recommend watching it. Among other things, you will find out what Michael felt about some of the things he did as a younger man.
John Cazale who played Fredo only appeared in about a half-dozen films. He was actually dying from cancer when he made The Deer Hunter. What might he have done if he had lived?
Love this comment. And I'm interested further in your take because I've always wondered if Appolonia had lived, would Michael have descended as far into darkness and guilt as he did? In Appolonia, Michael would have had his Carmella, but in Kay he had a moral fiber who ultimately made him face who he'd become. But then I think, even before Kay, Michael rebelled against his family in a lot of ways. So I think he still would have been haunted.
Definitely one of the better reactions. You two actually are sharp enough to catch the little things and get what's going on.
My gods, I just realized that the gap between now and the year this came out is the same as the gap between the year this came out and the advent of talking pictures. HEADDESK
The actor who played Signor Roberto, the landlord, was a famous comedian in Italy with a great talent for improvisation. When they filmed the scene where the landlord comes to return Vito's money and apologize, Coppola decided to mess with him and told the actor playing Genco to lock the door so Roberto would have to knock to get in, and then lock it behind him. Coppola wanted to see what he would do when he couldn't get out of the office, and the actor handled it like a champ, turning that unexpected obstacle into comedy gold.
The movie is structured so that the arcs of Don Vito and Michael intersect, with each scene with Don Vito subtly contrasting the next one with Michael. Vito turned to crime in order to feed his family after being fired from his job at the store, while Michael killed his family and his dad's oldest lieutenants in order to keep his criminal empire going.
Vito: A lion of a man with a heart of gold
Michael: A shark with no heart at all
You guys are doing well and will continue to do so if you keep indulging in classic fan favorites...
Awesome reaction! I was so excited to see you had posted Godfather Part 2 this week after seeing what you did with the original. I was thrilled to see Steph’s reaction to my two favorite shots in the movie: the one of Clemenza by the door, holding the pistol as the policeman was trying to look in, and Vito slowly being lit as the Don was flicking the bulb.
Damn, these are good movies. Well done, guys.
8:39 walking around like he owns the place.. No he doesn't that's the brilliance of Vito
"I'll go one more between the eyes" 10:20 - right there we get a peek into Achara Kirk's heart of darkness....😲😵😉
Fanucci respected and was impressed with Vito for figuring out he had no real power or muscle, but he still 'gave' him something to wet his beak. He was a fake gangster. If a real Don demands $600, that's what you BETTER pay. He just didn't count on a hit. Lol!!
They brought Pantangeli's brother from Italy because they knew he respected his brother too much to break the code and snitch.
Did Fanucci actually realized he was outed as a fraud though?
@@LuckySmurfYes. That's why he said, "You've done well for yourself."
@@warrenbfeagins Yes but if word got around that he was a fraud, he would lose his leverage. It doesn't make sense for him to think that Vito would keep his secret, considering Vito was one of his many victims.
@@LuckySmurf Exactly, and that's why Vito paid him something. Fanucci had no muscle, but could still snitch to the cops which would affect Vito's business. Vito didn't want that and Fanucci knew that. That was the little leverage Fanucci had about his secret. "You don't blow my cover as a fraud and I won't snitch to the cops." Vito's strategy was to get him to relax cause he was gonna kill him. Fanucci wanted more money, but $100 was at least 'fair' considering he had no real power anyway. He just wanted to give him something he would accept publicly. The other thing was to avoid any suspicion for the hit which is why putting that money on the table, Fanucci putting his hat over it and congratulating him about doing well for himself was the icing on the cake.
@@warrenbfeagins If Fanucci's ties to the mob were exaggerated, who's to say that his threat of going to the police is any realer?
@38:50 When Achara and Steph are talking about the movie being 3 hours & 20 minutes long and needing a bathroom break. The movie studio thought about that too, that's why when the movie came out in the theaters there was an intermission half way thru.
I love your appreciation for the art of the movie. I’m a photographer and I always take in cinematography and lighting etc.. the acting is stellar just stellar. It’s not a surprise that it won Beat Picture.
I literally just finished Godfather 2 (part 1/2), i go refresh my feed and i see you dropped part 2, perfect timing
This film gets better each time I revisit it