Yeah, The older Hondas are great, Some of the best FF cars on the planet... Europeans never could understand that torque is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive car, They've always been obsessed with low end unusable power, because the cars are designed around economy, practicality, safety not performance, so there performance cars are kind of a contradiction in function. That's what led Europe down its own demise with diesels...
I liked what Keiichi Tsuchiya said when overtaking the R32, why be surprised? The B18C is a legendary engine with an amazing horsepower per liter that the golf can't match, and the golf is 470kg heavier and only 50 horsepower more. And most importantly, who drives DC2? )))) Legend of legends!!! The best pilot!! It seems to me that if Keiichi Tsuchiya rode a bicycle, he would go around everyone sideways in a turn and win the race)))
@@LazloRTR think of it this way.....you ever see a known faster car but still try to press in your element? Just to see where your car is? ......this is what this video is to me
christopher daniel I guess, but even if it's not retiring or cut the corner it's just going to stay behind alone off screen, just feels sad to me If they put another car on the same class as a rival of the colt I would be fine with it
@@LazloRTR what would be in the same class? A fit? The fit doesn't have a performance version....but Honda knows how to make a killer car but won't build it. A k swapped fit from factory would monster everything in its class .
Every time I watch these races makes me happy that i bought a DC5 type S(the nearest thing to a type R in the US) I’m pretty sure I’m not buying another car that is not a Honda
Toyota and Honda are where it’s at! In terms of having a well balanced combination of every day performance and reliability, no other companies do it as well as these two.
owned dc2 in when lving in ireland.. owesome car, its been 6 years sinc i sold it and there hasn't been a day i didn't miss it and not regret the sale.. Should have kept it under blanket
I feel the pain. Sold mine nearly 2 years ago and miss it everyday...currently looking at getting another one tho ! Edit: Ended up getting an ek9 and dropping a k20 in 😂
You could tell the dc2 was designed to be a straight out the box track car and the dc5 was designed to be a tuners car. I love the look of the dc2 more but if you were to give the dc5 lower and stiffer suspension, it already has the hp and tq, it'd be so much better
well the dc2 was cranked up a very little. probably like 10-20 hp. not much. the dc5 and r32 were both stock. I've heard that this body style was a lot heavier than the other r32. it was keeping up and cornering well. so it stood a chance the entire time. it's just at the end of the day it became driver vs driver and it just didn't pull off the w.
They wouldn't be able to improve on that car, it's impossible nowadays with the regulations. They would end up 1 1/2 tons with turbocharged lazy engine, That favour torque over peak power (which is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive) They would be forced to give up on most of the formula that made that car unique and great and would have to use cheap tricks to make the car perform better.. Just like that EG6 Seeker shows us, if you updated any of those cars like ef, eg, ek, crx, dc to modern standards there wouldn't be a modern hot hatch that could stand to it in a track setting...
Miroshi, some time ago there was a video, I think in ebisu track of golf mk4 r32 vs íntegra on Rain, only those 2 cars racing against each other, can you get it? Thanks
They wouldn't be able to improve on those cars, it's impossible nowadays with the regulations. They would end up 1 1/2 tons with turbocharged lazy engines, That favour torque over peak power (which is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive) They would be forced to give up on most of the formula that made those cars unique and great and would have to use cheap tricks to make the car perform better.. Just like that EG6 Seeker shows us, if you updated any of those cars like ef, eg, ek, crx, dc to modern standards there wouldn't be a modern hot hatch that could stand to it in a track setting...
Its plain to see just watching the video how boring the R32 is. Soo quiet, comfy and heavy. The complete opposite of what you should want if you want a proper drivers car.
I mean, japanese poeple arent great drivers neither. They compensate there aggressivity and jerkiness with a car that can take it because it's so darn light. But if you throw anything else at them their brains explode
No way. I’ve owned all four (mk4 R32 & Gti, mk5 R32 & Gti, as well as a polo gti 9n3). The mk4 R32 was by far the best car of the lot. Very well made, felt amazing to drive, plus the sound, a very special car.
I miss my J reg 4 door civic with the Awsome B16a2 engine!! That was a proper wolf in sheeps clothing haha so many times I embarrassed some quick cars with that weapon 👌 never forget a guy in a vr6 golf ask did my nan lend me her car until I passed him at about 120mph while all he could do was watch as nanny went past him 😂😂😂
DC2's driver is wrong he has not the lowest displacement because the colt R is a 1.5L what do you expect of a 150hp car against those car ? Give it a remap to make 190hp at least to compete
@@illewmenadeh722 I don't think so, in its standard form perhaps but the colt 1.5 is given at 197ps in switzerland with no specific power upgrade, mapping only, 200bhp for a 1.5 turbo (which is what everyone gets after a remap) is quite decent, it's main defect is it's suspension, which call for a set of coilovers !
@@Nolkyo lol these guys calling the lil car weak I found it to have done well in the group people are over obsessed with power and that's why a guy that drives a Honda will always have fun cause he don't need it he just needs that sound.
@@illewmenadeh722 The Colt is capable of producing 200hp with a simple remap. It was only detuned to compete with prices. Mitsubishi left it up to the owner’s discretion if they wanted to restore the engine to its original power. Any Colt type R or Ralliart should not be underestimated.
"Colt R is not a sports car" Yes, not a sports car, a rear dependent beam, what kind of sport are we talking about? But of all it is the most economical and reliable)
volkswagens are also expensive in europe. thats why smart people in europe buy japanese cars, they are cheaper to buy, the engines more reliable, and they are cheaper to maintain :)
Yes GTI DSG would be the way to go. Remapped engine to 250HP (a turbo replacement and 300+ hp) Semi slick tires and a Locking diferential, and aftermarket suspension It would easily compete with the integras
I may have had limited track experience, Still i'm pretty confident I could do better than the ITR DC5 driver. Wow colt is terrible and ugly what was Mitsubishi thinking...
+265justy a 1000kg with 1.8 beats 1600kg with 3.2 ? XD 3.2=250hp 1.8=200hp , slap a turbo on that 3.2 and it is easily at 350 reliable horses and those guys can bid themselves farewell :)
265justy not really, 1.8l 4cracker is pretty much at its max, but 3.2l 6cyl from golf with only as 30hp more has much much muuuuch more growing potential ;)
![[ENG CC] Integra Type R DC2 vs. DC5 vs. Civic EK9 battle Ebisu 2001](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/M3mdWZPiOfk/mqdefault.jpg)
![[ENG CC] Integra Type R DC2 vs. DC5 vs. Civic EK9 battle Ebisu 2001](/img/tr.png)
![[ENG CC] Hot Hatch Battle - Integra R DC5, BMW 130i M, Golf R32, 147 GTA, Audi A3 Tsukuba 2006](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bF4upRjLqig/mqdefault.jpg)
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This is like watching a real life Gran Turismo replay
3.2 NA vs 1.8T vs 1.8 and 2.0 NA and the 1.8 and 2.0 win.
Honda really did nail the NA four banger formula. These cars are something special.
I thought the Colt had a 1.5L Turbo, the 4G15?
Yeah, The older Hondas are great, Some of the best FF cars on the planet... Europeans never could understand that torque is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive car, They've always been obsessed with low end unusable power, because the cars are designed around economy, practicality, safety not performance, so there performance cars are kind of a contradiction in function. That's what led Europe down its own demise with diesels...
the colt came with 1.5t 4g15
@@roknroller6052well but that typeR are lightweight because they have zero equipment and zero crash safeties.
@@FEGTTTSDHyou can make any hatch of that year lighter than a type R. if its a track car, slap a cage and harness in and you’ll be fine
The sound of that DC2 is intoxicating.
yes ma'am
I liked what Keiichi Tsuchiya said when overtaking the R32, why be surprised? The B18C is a legendary engine with an amazing horsepower per liter that the golf can't match, and the golf is 470kg heavier and only 50 horsepower more. And most importantly, who drives DC2? )))) Legend of legends!!! The best pilot!! It seems to me that if Keiichi Tsuchiya rode a bicycle, he would go around everyone sideways in a turn and win the race)))
Type R's are the best!
AngelofSpeed DC5 Type R go home
4500HP Lancer Evo IX stfu
4600HP Integra Type R stfu (lmao tf u talking?)
@@leonardlitanius7517 you go home bro come to mom
@@mikoputra149 lol pulang gih, usernamenya dah gua ganti
That poor Colt R is a mis-match...
How? It was holding its own
christopher daniel no way it could compete, it's only as light as the dc2 but with 3/4 the power
@@LazloRTR think of it this way.....you ever see a known faster car but still try to press in your element? Just to see where your car is? ......this is what this video is to me
christopher daniel I guess, but even if it's not retiring or cut the corner it's just going to stay behind alone off screen, just feels sad to me
If they put another car on the same class as a rival of the colt I would be fine with it
@@LazloRTR what would be in the same class? A fit? The fit doesn't have a performance version....but Honda knows how to make a killer car but won't build it. A k swapped fit from factory would monster everything in its class .
itr DC2 is the world's best FF car for a reason
DC5 looks better imo so as a daily I want are car that looks nice too. I'll give less that a sec off for that.
Prelude is the best with proper suspension.
Megane rs would like to disagree
Focus RS Mk1 joined the chat
Garrett Smith ep3>dc5/2 wut?
Actually im impressed that the r32 hold on that good!👌
Every time I watch these races makes me happy that i bought a DC5 type S(the nearest thing to a type R in the US) I’m pretty sure I’m not buying another car that is not a Honda
Toyota and Honda are where it’s at!
In terms of having a well balanced combination of every day performance and reliability, no other companies do it as well as these two.
Love my rcolt :)
They should have used YRadvances tuned one, for alittle more competition.
owned dc2 in when lving in ireland.. owesome car, its been 6 years sinc i sold it and there hasn't been a day i didn't miss it and not regret the sale..
Should have kept it under blanket
I feel the pain. Sold mine nearly 2 years ago and miss it everyday...currently looking at getting another one tho !
Edit: Ended up getting an ek9 and dropping a k20 in 😂
@@yoshi879Fuck yeah great decision
almost cried in the beginning ...and the last type r :(
The last true k20 type r was the fd2r if you didn't know of its existence.
@@xLeidenFrost agree.
@@xLeidenFrost that shits ugly
Interitous i agree. everything after the fd are not "real" type r anymore
Sammy Lam.. agreed
lol, they wrote "Gird" instead of grid.
Lol so fun
I love the dc2 more than any integra type r but, if Tsuchiya was in that dc5, he prob would have sweeped everybody on the second lap XD
Thank you so much for the subtitles!! Amazing channel!!
You could tell the dc2 was designed to be a straight out the box track car and the dc5 was designed to be a tuners car. I love the look of the dc2 more but if you were to give the dc5 lower and stiffer suspension, it already has the hp and tq, it'd be so much better
And better tires like the dc2 had here
DC2まじ顔イケメンすぎ
I was crying when the colt made a short cut🤣
3:42
Yeah! I thought he messed up at first 😂.
The r32 never had a chance
Yes.
The r32 has too much weight. 1600kg vs 1200kg
The dsg will not turn much faster as the professionals in the Type R
well the dc2 was cranked up a very little. probably like 10-20 hp. not much. the dc5 and r32 were both stock. I've heard that this body style was a lot heavier than the other r32. it was keeping up and cornering well. so it stood a chance the entire time. it's just at the end of the day it became driver vs driver and it just didn't pull off the w.
The guy in the r32 drove it like a fwd lol. Could a been way more aggressive.
@@chinocavalera9079 it is a fwd basicly. Also Power to weight is bad on that thing. Its not made for racetracks.
@@fukkinkana actually no the b18c jdm is rated at 200hp and even so the engine had less torque than the k20a
dori dori pushed the car to its limit
Make my dream come true Honda and bring back Integra!!!!!!!
They wouldn't be able to improve on that car, it's impossible nowadays with the regulations. They would end up 1 1/2 tons with turbocharged lazy engine, That favour torque over peak power (which is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive) They would be forced to give up on most of the formula that made that car unique and great and would have to use cheap tricks to make the car perform better..
Just like that EG6 Seeker shows us, if you updated any of those cars like ef, eg, ek, crx, dc to modern standards there wouldn't be a modern hot hatch that could stand to it in a track setting...
I actually love this channel
very balanced cars however, you can see who had the most fun the manual transmissions :D
i feel honda always makes best stock steering wheels
5:23 - Can't tell if he's done or getting a repair.
He said he "retire"... he's done
Idk what they're saying but it's still entertaining lol
Miroshi, some time ago there was a video, I think in ebisu track of golf mk4 r32 vs íntegra on Rain, only those 2 cars racing against each other, can you get it?
Thanks
インテＲ本当にカッコいいw
Honda drops all its cool cars.
Integra, s2000, prelude, crx...
why?
They wouldn't be able to improve on those cars, it's impossible nowadays with the regulations. They would end up 1 1/2 tons with turbocharged lazy engines, That favour torque over peak power (which is the enemy of a front-wheel-drive) They would be forced to give up on most of the formula that made those cars unique and great and would have to use cheap tricks to make the car perform better..
Just like that EG6 Seeker shows us, if you updated any of those cars like ef, eg, ek, crx, dc to modern standards there wouldn't be a modern hot hatch that could stand to it in a track setting...
Funny how on tsukuba the golf was faster than the dc5 on the straight. Those golfs are flat in a straight line anyway in the real world
type R one love! =)
Love hte DC5. I have a turbo RSX-S myself.
Its plain to see just watching the video how boring the R32 is. Soo quiet, comfy and heavy. The complete opposite of what you should want if you want a proper drivers car.
+Chris Martin "Quiet"
John Cronce, Jr no quiet. No capital letter.
+Chris Martin someone gets all their knowledge of cars from internet videos.
***** Look at my profile pic, numpty. I get my knowledge from experience.
I mean, japanese poeple arent great drivers neither. They compensate there aggressivity and jerkiness with a car that can take it because it's so darn light. But if you throw anything else at them their brains explode
I like the gti’s over r32’s 🤷🏾♂️
No way. I’ve owned all four (mk4 R32 & Gti, mk5 R32 & Gti, as well as a polo gti 9n3).
The mk4 R32 was by far the best car of the lot. Very well made, felt amazing to drive, plus the sound, a very special car.
コルトVeR乗ってるけど
やっぱそーなるよなーって思う
でもコンパクトカーでは速いよ🙂
僕も乗ってますがでもコーナー辛くて、、💦
Уважаю японские автомобили, атмо, конечно же Хонда
I miss my J reg 4 door civic with the Awsome B16a2 engine!! That was a proper wolf in sheeps clothing haha so many times I embarrassed some quick cars with that weapon 👌 never forget a guy in a vr6 golf ask did my nan lend me her car until I passed him at about 120mph while all he could do was watch as nanny went past him 😂😂😂
6:38 the dude driving the R32 won in my heart
typical vw fan boy
@@Itr-tv7kt sadly I don't own an R32
@@amnottabs you dont have to own that car to be a fan of it
@@Itr-tv7kt if I recall correctly I was complimenting the R32's driver but whatever you say boss
@@amnottabs Oh ok. i guess you did.. lol but they're all pros.. but the DK is the coolest dude
この動画見れて良かった。
全日本GT2000年富士のクラッシュの件で、土屋氏と立川氏の不仲説が出回っているが、動画を見る限りお互い過去の事として捉えている様に見える。
しかし、未だに共演が少ないのは周りが気にし過ぎているからだろうか。
DC2's driver is wrong he has not the lowest displacement because the colt R is a 1.5L what do you expect of a 150hp car against those car ? Give it a remap to make 190hp at least to compete
As a Honda fan I agree. The Colt is such a great car but it´s engine is too weak
@@illewmenadeh722 I don't think so, in its standard form perhaps but the colt 1.5 is given at 197ps in switzerland with no specific power upgrade, mapping only, 200bhp for a 1.5 turbo (which is what everyone gets after a remap) is quite decent, it's main defect is it's suspension, which call for a set of coilovers !
With weak I meant the engine hasn´t enough power when it´s stock. The engine has potential.
@@Nolkyo lol these guys calling the lil car weak I found it to have done well in the group people are over obsessed with power and that's why a guy that drives a Honda will always have fun cause he don't need it he just needs that sound.
@@illewmenadeh722 The Colt is capable of producing 200hp with a simple remap. It was only detuned to compete with prices. Mitsubishi left it up to the owner’s discretion if they wanted to restore the engine to its original power. Any Colt type R or Ralliart should not be underestimated.
They should put initial D racing music in the background
Now do it again.... with out the Vw and the Mitsubishi... let the 2 real cars battle it out
DC2 ITR is a beast!
why not polo gti?
Golf's are suck for truck race.
I love these videos...... & im great. full that they are translated in English
"Colt R is not a sports car" Yes, not a sports car, a rear dependent beam, what kind of sport are we talking about? But of all it is the most economical and reliable)
No way, both Honda’s far more reliable and arguably more fuel efficient (depending on how heavy your foot is).
Glad I have a turbo DC5 RSX-S here in Canada
Turbo ruins the experience tbh, each to their own I guess ! NA is where the K series really shines IMO.
@@nvl2691 B18C's and H22A's both with ITB's sound raw too
R32がおるなら、コルトではなく、ランエボでしょ！インテグラ２台いるならゴルフGTIが欲しい。
インテR速すぎw
これ全部転載なの？
that colt r was a big cheater
just like that ae101 in the levin vs civic SiR battle
and yet lost!
lol
5:17 KARMA!!!!! Shouldn't have taken that shortcut, buddy!
Great video! Thanks
they should bring gti to uniform performance. but in terms of cost, r32 is right choice. VWs are expensive in Jpn.
VW's are expensive everywhere !
volkswagens are also expensive in europe. thats why smart people in europe buy japanese cars, they are cheaper to buy, the engines more reliable, and they are cheaper to maintain :)
Lex Buren true
スポーツ性を鮮明にしたエキサイティングクーペ
I’m more of a DC5 person...
DC2がめっちゃすっきゃねん！
The jdm Cars Is the best🇯🇵🙏💪
Why the R32 and not the GTi?
J Beason because awd and 3.2 ..... if you cant win with a 3.2lt car.....what's the chance to win with a fwd 2lt gti vs integras 😂
Kostas Lord Big weight difference between GTI and R32.
@@ronz6214 3.2 lt is one of the best vag engines..... what weights less on gti than r32 ???
Yes GTI DSG would be the way to go.
Remapped engine to 250HP (a turbo replacement and 300+ hp)
Semi slick tires and a Locking diferential, and aftermarket suspension
It would easily compete with the integras
At the very end the R32 driver was defending its capabilities and everyone else got all quite and mumbled, looking down... classic
DC5の顔付きどちゃくそエロかわいいんだよなぁ…(*´д｀*)ﾊｧﾊｧ
DC2 had a better lap time!
Weight is key!
Deffo true but the DC5 isn't that much heavier Only like 60-80kg I think.
Also the driver :)
+markymaclmb And the fact that it had a slight tune meaning it wasn't stock like the other cars.
all professional drivers.
golf r lost again. never seen a test where this thing shines. maybe show and shine it might win for nice interior. lol
dc5 have best handling
Nah it understeers more than DC2
アキュラでインテRが復活するみたいで🙌
日本での販売はないでしょうが…
usually you make the shit slow cars start BEHIND the amazing JDM masterpieces...wtf!
The DC2 didn't age a bit
Another vw Pos every croocked journalist said it was great.
teg: not even sweating
Omg that DC2 sounds so much better than the DC5!!
no ma'am. k's sound way better than the buzzy b's
They got the dc2 and dc5 commentaries backwards lol.
Whaat! thaya buursto!
WHAAAT?
wtf is with the Mitsubishi being there?
Well DC2 had semi-slixk tires
立川氏2023年を持ってGT500引退を偲んでコメント残しておきます
3:41 NANI?
funny how that sluggish 3.2l engine got smoked by the little na 4bangers on the straight, didnt expect that
Vr6 is a torque monster. Off the line it smokes the Hondas. Everywhere else, the Honda’s win on track
that ugly Golf R was creating a traffic jam for the type R's.. GTFO
Kalau orang malaysia tengok ni, dah meroyan dah geng2 wiraevo tengok 1.8 turbo mitsubishi kena tinggal dengan 1.8 na honda yg lembab mcm siput katanya wkwkwk
I forgot to downshift HAHAHAH
pecka :D
Kto ti tu rozumie ? lol
Fel307
ja
***** O kurwa
今乗ってるけど、コンパクトカーの中だとトップクラスの性能だけど、このメンツだとコルトって単なるかませ犬にしかならないよな…
Should've used the 3dr R32 to give it some chance lmao
Dc2 ✊🏼
Almost a flyby
Thank you:-)
Never play with a honda
the golf is 1590kg ... too fat .. why why why!... jeez build it lighter ... so annoying, everything is like this these days
That colt R is crap .. my one handles like those Hondas are .. also the colt R is the lowest sized engine
wa ta shi wa bagayaro Taiwan luxgen ,I beat you all
honda so fast hayay
バトルとは関係ないんだけど、コルトは一番安いモデルで1t切る車重の車を作れなかったのかね
フィットはAが990kgだったよ
燃費でも自動車重量税でも負けたら売れるわけない
The Golf driver can't driving.
🤤😍🔥🔥🔥❤
UNFAIR
R32 is a joke
飯田、バーストさせるとか、、、
なにしとん。。
じゃあお前が走らせてみろバカ
@@takaradmilk2635 それなバーカ
やっぱり、即席ラーメンが職人の本格派に勝てるわけないよな。ゴルフ32は暖簾分けといったところか。
Golfs suck
Hipsters car
I may have had limited track experience, Still i'm pretty confident I could do better than the ITR DC5 driver.
Wow colt is terrible and ugly what was Mitsubishi thinking...
Vw ❤ shit on these jdm
3.2 vw shit lose vs 2.0 and 1.8
Japan dont want a winning r32
DVNI GXMEZ The R32 is useless.. 3.2 L got kicked by 20 year old 1.8L N/A... Fuck the Germans.. Japan builds real performance cars...
William Pritchard SOME country's build real performance cars . Do Ethiopia, Sudan etc build them. Cause you said EVERY.. Correct that for YOU!
+265justy a 1000kg with 1.8 beats 1600kg with 3.2 ? XD 3.2=250hp 1.8=200hp , slap a turbo on that 3.2 and it is easily at 350 reliable horses and those guys can bid themselves farewell :)
Slap a Turbo into the Honda & playing field is level again .. What goes around ... Comes around ..
265justy
not really, 1.8l 4cracker is pretty much at its max, but 3.2l 6cyl from golf with only as 30hp more has much much muuuuch more growing potential ;)