How To Remove Oxidized Paint
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2018
- I'm not a professional detailer, but when I got this 1994 Acura Legend Coupe 6 speed, I thought it might be time to try my hand and repairing oxidized paint. It didn't require a big investment in tools and materials, but it did take quite a bit of time. In fact, I spent 2 days on the car and I could probably spend 2 more.
I hope this information will be helpful to you if your vehicle also has issues with the paint.
One final note. The paint on these cars was actually pink. The clear coat had the final pigment that created what Honda calls, Milano Red. Therefore I didn't want to go too far during the repair process for fear that I might change the color. In fact, there were a couple of areas where this started to happen.
I think in order to truly restore this cars finish, it would be best to respray the roof, hood, and deck lid after removing all the dents. This car doesn't have any rust so perhaps one day I'll make that investment. Till then, I'm going to be happy with my shiny red car that I call Scarlett Johansson.
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Hello Eric. Pro detailer here. I am watching the video and will comment as I see things. First off, for compounding, you want to use the max speed of you polisher. You are trying to remove damaged paint with a low end polishing machine (good ones run in the 300-400$ range). So crank that thing up to max speed. Second, your pad should always be spinning while you are working, if it's not, it is not correcting the paint, just buzzing on it doing pretty much nothing. The product you chose (Meguiar's Ultimate Compound) is the best consumer grade compound available. Good choice. As for wet sanding... you should definatelly use a bloc to make sure your pressure is even on the sand paper and you don't burn through your paint. 1500-2000 grit are the best papers to use for that step. After you are done with the compound, you should do a polishing step. Same pad and machine, but with Ultimate Polish. This is what restores the shine.... the compound leaves paint dull. Then you can wax or better yet, use a paint sealant (synthetic wax). Hope this helps.
Calendyr I was seeing his pad turn red... maybe to much pressure?
No, it's the type of paint on the car that does this. His car has what is called a single stage paint. It means that the color and protection products are in through the whole paint. Now we use a Basecoat/Clearcoat system where the color paint is 1 layer covered by a varnish layer of clear coat. So when you polish a Clearcoat the paint you are taking out is transparent and doesn't change the color of the pad. But on a single stage paint, as the paint is coming off from the buffing, it changes the color of the pad.
@@Calendyr Hi there, I've got a single paint stage car and I am trying to figure out the best method, polish/waxes to apply so that I am not taking out it's [red[ paint. Trying to diminish swirl marks and oxidation without damaging the paint. Let me know, thanks
@@Nicole-ju8fd Hi Nicole, you should just buffing the car with a Polishing Compound ( Extra Fine Polishing Compound ). The Pad should be a foam pad ( orange color - medium cut , blue color pad - low cut ) , it depends how damaged and dull your paint is. If it's just dull, use blue color, if damaged, scratches etx, use orange color pad. After that use waxing with a wool buffing pad.
You can use a rotary machine at 2500-3500rpm, but make sure you don't burn through paint, as you use a rotary and you also have 1 stage paint. Cheers
@@mihai0377 thank you for the reply, I'll be using the orbital one so it wouldn't be possible to damage / burn my paint. As for the necessary compound is what exactly I need to get thanks again !
FINALLY, I found a video of a car with actual faded paint that truly needed to be compounded, and not a car that was one step away from a final polish. Thanks for showing us what ultimate compound can do for genuinely faded paint.
Recently becoming a qualified paint spray this video reminded me of how I was as an apprentice. Which isn't a bad thing as we all gotta start some where.
A few tips you Eric!
- When you're using the mop or buffer you need to put a fair amount of pressure directly over the cutting head. I always find it better to ditch the side handle and put my hand right over the pad on the soft rubber. You'll find the mop will cut a lot better and also not push it's self around as much.
- For compound I would highly recommend Farecla G3 Premium, or 3M Fast Cut Plus. Makes compounding a breeze
- When wet sanding clear coat you don't wanna use anything less than 2000grit as you'll struggle to get the scratches out perfectly with any courser paper. Would also recommend using a wet block. Using your bare hand to flat can and will leave "tram lines" in the clear coat as you're only applying pressure to the paper at your palm and finger tips. Where as with a block you'll get even pressure and a much better finish.
- Use a hard foam pad for getting out things like deep scratches and oxidation (Real heavy stuff) then use a softer foam pad with either a diminishing compound or dedicated fine polish to get rid of the compound scratches and refine the finish even further. As for applying wax I always prefer to do this by hand with a microfiber applicator pad in small circular motions. Usually if doing a whole car then I start on the drivers door and work my whole way around the car. Then when I get back to the drivers door the wax should have hazed enough to wipe it off easily.
Thank You. I’m saving your comment. I’m studying how to remove heavy oxidation.
I bought a legend about a month ago and i am so happy with it. they have always been in my top ten dream cars. absolutely love seeing you work on yours!
I give Eric credit that he admitted he didn’t have much experience with this. AMMO NYC is the channel for this content. To do this type of work properly, it is an all day job, especially for someone without experience. Eric only did a few steps and it took him a day. Car needs to be decontaminated with a wash and clay, wet sand if cut compound alone is not sufficient, polish, then seal/wax. Use a quality DA and the right pads for each step. Kind of surprised Eric posted this content, but I appreciate the effort he gave it. The Legend does look better.
agreed but it is cool to see him experimenting with detailing and not the usual grimy mechanics
Integra DIY It is at minimum what you would not expect on the ETCG channel. Car detailing by Mr. Stay Dirty. Although I’m sure Eric is not advising on detailing, but rather, oxidation removal. What I like most about the video is that Eric was exploring something new and was not pretending to be an expert on the subject.
Totally agree with you. Love seeing Eric starting out with learning. Maybe he will delve more into learning about detailing in the future.
robo tiger actually the products are great and not much more than any meguiars ultimate product
Secondly doing the job right is wiser than a quick job you'll have to redo shortly
A quick job is a half ass job.
Eric is learning so I'm not calling his work half ass as he clearly put in the time. However constructive criticism will only throw tips his way to hopefully save him headaches and end up with better results
robo tiger 9 out of 13 products he sells are 25 or less with many of those under 20. The absolute most expensive out of the 13 items 69 bucks and its really only for car show use
Stop pulling numbers out your ass. And holy crap it's now a bad thing to recommend a good brand like Makita? I love harbor freight and all but their polishers are absolutely mediocre at best
Do the job right or don't do it at all.
The music made me feel like I was on hold while calling Eric 😁
Harrythepot or in a slow moving elevator
definitely elevator
😂😂 I love this comment
Eric from Statefarm?
I always loved the look of those cars. I'd still love to have one.
Thanks for doing an example for the common folk. No technical jargon. Just HF stuff. Just what I needed to see.
This is the Ericthecarguy I remember from earlier this decade! Thank you for coming back to the basics!
I love seeing these Honda restoration videos. The paint shines now and looks great!
Glad to have you back ETCG! As always, great vid sir. Here's to a great 2018 of new adventures.
For 1994 paint that car looks Amazing! Thanks Eric. I have always wanted an Acura Legend. That car looks like a real keeper.
Welcome back Eric, I haven't catch up with your videos but I missed them a lot!
I also found that Meguires 'wet look' seems to work excellent on oxidised paint and just done by hand.
I like the improvement is incredible. Great work, Eric.
That is a sweet looking car Eric. It's body lines are so clean. From every angle it looks awesome. I love that front end and rear end both. Good work on the paint too. It almost looks like a different car already.
Welcome back Eric!
Music was cracking me up
congrats on hitting 1m subs Eric, as always thanks for the vids
It's small, and silly but I really liked the music while watching Eric work. My stress levels dropped even lower than usual.
I'm impressed with the Meguiar Ultimate Compound you used great effort! Thanks for sharing!
Hey Eric! I tried my dual action polisher for the first time the other day on my heavily oxidised car... And it came out amazing! But what I did was use a clay bar with soapy water first, before using the polisher. I believe that's to prevent the existing contaminants from scratching the paint when using the polisher. Nevertheless, excellent work at the end man... 👍🏻
Good to see you back.
That was my dream car in the mid to late 90's! Never could find one for sale privately or on a dealer lot so I never had the joy of owning one. You're lucky to have her.
Another great video! I love the easy jazz flute!
Didn't seem like the DA was spinning. Should do clay bar, compound, polish, then paint sealant / wax.
Love your videos. Definitely looks better, but if you ever do it again, follow these steps. I promise you'll be impressed with the results. Clay the car after washing to remove embedded contaminates. Once you've done that and the necessary prep, use the DA at a higher speed. Heavier oxidation needs more friction. It's very hard to burn through paint with a DA, so I wouldn't let that be a concern. Also, move much slower to allow the foam and the compound to do its job. Typically on a rough surface such as the one you are working on, I move 2 inches per second. It takes much longer, but it's worth it for the result. After you've done that, move on to a polish so that you can remove the scratches that the compound left. Wipe it down with an IPA solution and then place your protection onto the paint. Not bad for not having any experience though. Respect for anyone willing to learn on their own!
Well said
Welcome back Eric and happy year
That is a BIG job. Better put aside a whole day. Looks Great Eric.
I'm loving the Bossanova jazz overlay; we need more!
Ahh !! An ETCG and Eric O . new video back to back this morning. Seems like it might be a good day !!!
EO >> CF > ETCG >> SK these days.
VideoNOLA 👍✌
I really enjoyed this video this morning with my coffee! Keep up the good content!
You brought back some shine. Good video, I like when you’re the cameraman.
I think it looks great Eric! Good job and love the detailing music lol
You should put 1 or 2 pen marks/lines on the top of the pad and hold the machine square and push enough pressure that the pad spins. The lines make it easier to see.
Nice work on this one Eric. Thanks. Love the Elevator Music !!
Happy New Year, EricTheCarGuy. Glad to see your video pop into my feed.
Eric it’s very inexpensive to do vinyl wrap. They look surprisingly good. You’re the type of person that could actually pull it off. There are plenty of UA-cam videos showing how to do it. This car would be the perfect card to learn on.
Love your videos!!! Thanks Eric!! You must be sent by the car Gods!!!
Looks way better! That's one of my favorite cars from that generation too. Hard to find that clean and in 6 speed!! Nice. Anyway great videos man!
Great video Eric, looking forward to seeing Fairmont videos soon!
Eric I think you got the result with the effort (and materials) that you used. The next step up (for those out there who are in a similar boat), would be 1) get a few more of the orange and finishing pads (you need a few to 'do' an entire vehicle; 2) split up the car into chunks (unless you're really needing do the whole car at once); 3) Use Meguires professional M105 as the first step with the orange pad, then wipe; 4) Then follow with Meguires M205 as the 2nd step - using the finishing pad - to give it the spit shine. Yes it would mean 'double' the work, but I think it would give you 'double' the result. But alas Eric, with a single polish compound and a single pad...you got a good result already!
M105/205 stink. If you're going full hog, use the appropriate grade of Menzerna/Jescar compound on a microfiber pad, and polish with Sonax Perfect Finish on a yellow Rupes pad.
Looks great nice work! Always wanted one of these 6 speed type 2 Legends as well, but they are getting pretty rare. Hope you cover the infamous headgasket issues and possibly a permanent repair for them!
Cool eric. Cannot wait to see the next vid. Glad to hand you back.
Thanks eric! Great u show us the low key attack, off the shelf...as u said it well ! Makes us easy to step inn. Thanks bob the belgian.
i knew it, you are secretly a honda guy! didn't understand why i like your channel so much before this revelation.
Red is a tough colour to perfect. Good job, that Meguiar's stuff works well
Single stage paint is a whole other beast, they all act different with combos that get good or worse results. Good job for first time doing! Glad to see you back at it Eric. Ps water is your friend when removing that compound.
Thanks for the tips! Im gonna be doing this to my 1991 Ford Ranger XLT!
Ughhhhh I want this car. Seems like you have all the coolest Acuras man.
Loved the bossa nova, cara. 👍
Good job Eric. Looks way better for sure
Excellent informative video as always
Sleepy music . Relaxing!!
Michael D elevator music ☺️
Haha. I was thinking elevator music too. :)
reminds me of Bob Ross-- this video could be called The Joy of Buffing
Bossa Nova !
If I remember correctly, This particular model of Acura was Honda's answer to the Nissan Skyline since Skylines couldn't be sold in the United States when Nissan first made them due to import laws detailing that foreign cars made for foreign markets would have to wait 20 years before they could be bought and sold in the U.S. Which is why that now you are seeing more Skylines and Figaros on American streets. It is a beautiful car and it's nice to see new life being put into it.
Eric, you're a love/hate UA-camr for me, though I know I'd like you in person. I have to give you infinite thumbs up for the choice of music on this one. Seriously. Next time I detail my car I'm looking for these tunes! All kidding aside, you do very good work, and offer the less initiated a glimpse into how to do things properly.
Ammo NYC or Chemical Brothers channel are great channels to learn from when it comes to waxing, compounding and paint correction. Make sure to take a black sharpie to the back of your orbital and drawl a few lines to judge the pressure you’re applying. Keep up the great work Eric and love to see you posting more content.
It looked great, thanks for posting! I'll try it out!
The red Legend with the tan interior ... exactly the car I lusted for back then. (I saw one at the Honda showroom, asked about it, and the salesman told me the dealership owner had grabbed it already!) That was THE car to get, among those who knew what to get.
Love ur vids! Keep them coming
I did this on my Skyline R33. Been busy for 2 days (whole weekend) and did all the stages. Now it's perfect. But the first few scratches have already been made, and those are the most painful ones after all the work I'd put in. But hell yeah it was worth it!
1 million subs... dude... gratz.
- Eddy
Presta makes awesome compounds and 1500 wet dry sandpaper would be a good start.
Love the videos and keep them coming!
I like his honesty, "I have no experience with this, but maybe I can make it look better" Just an average person trying to make their car look better without spending a fortune!
Legend one of my fav cars. If I only I could get a clean rust free one around here. and you scored the 6 speed.... jealous.
I use the same stuff on my tired paint it looks great now👍
I love my 91 legend, and watching this....just made me happy haha
Hear we go
The junkman UA-cam channel is the gospel.i promise it's the best for information on paint correction and care
Love the choice of music!!
I did this for over 15 yrs and a few garages hated me for taking too long buffing cars and i told them you aint gonna get top dollar for it if it aint done right.Eric did a good job on this but buff it with polish too not with a rag/cloth.My best advice is you got to remember to use proper wax after it's all done and then wax it again a month later to let it settle which sounds strange nut it's true.Use AutoGlym Super Resin polish a month later then another coat a few months after that and you'll go WOW!! You'll never regret it,even on plastic door mirrors will restore it lovely BUT use polish with v.little compound on a cloth first.
looks so much better forsure good job
Thanks! Have a car that's really oxidized and thinking about doing this to it. Also thanks for the links to what you used
I did a similar job on my 1998 Ford Mustang GT in Atlantic Blue Metallic. The idea with the compound is that the friction actually heats up the clear coat and evens it out. I used the same Harbor Freight machine but, I used setting four and you don't need to use light pressure but, just be sure to keep the pad moving and also use Meguires detail spray for lubrication(some use soapy water but, I didn't try that). I also put a lot more compound on the pad than you showed here. Then i used the Meguires polish which takes most of the scratches out and then wax after that. i purchased the car from California so, the paint had some Sun fade(which I can't really do anything about without repainting) but, the clear is spectacular!
Nice... tedious but satisfying work!
Now that car looks LEGENDARY
I'm sorry i'll show myself out
Good one fila
Haha good one
LOL
Great work mate, looks very good👌🏻 g3 do a great compound aswell which I’d highly recommend.
It looks great eric!
Great video Sir!
great video eric.......lovely car.....
Awesome! Definitely trying this on my 92 Legend, had it since 98 and the paint is pretty faded lol. Thanks!!
I did this to a 92 Mustang and made the same mistake. After the compound instead of going straight to wax go over the car with Meguires Ultimate Polish with a finer pad. I think the pad you need is blue from HF. Anyway then you will be ready for wax. The polish will remove the swirls and bring up more shine. The car will look way better. Also when wet sanding put a few drops of dish soap in the water. It will help the paper last longer, lube the surface better, and keep it cleaner. 2000 grit is pretty safe to use. Wrap the paper around a sponge or a flexible rubber block or squeegee otherwise you will leave finger marks in the paint. I have done this now several times to several older cars using these methods and the Harbor Freight buffer and pads.
omg dude u got a legend 6 speed!! i wanted one when i was looking for a car but i couldnt find one. that car looks super clean, i love the front end of those years that honda/acura came out with. reminds me of accord but so beefy and aggressive
Love the legend and the gsr in the background
Very impressive keep up the great videos my friend
Good job big improvement 👍😃
Great stuff man. I just did this with two of my cars- both black!- and they came out looking a lot better. I still need to do the final polish and wax though.
Ericthecarguy I also use that same polisher and compound to shine up headlights when they get foggy. Works like a charm.
Beautiful lines on those cars.
This lady at my work parkade has one. I ask her every 3-4 months to sell it to me. she just lols and shakes her head.
Its the black-gold paint with gold wheels. Beauteous.
Stay gold.
Nice Eric great job brother😄👍👍
Please make more of these, im dying to find one that is a good allrounder. one that improves the good looking paint, and the ones that looks ok.
I love detailing. It's my hobby and I wish I had a shop to do it instead of outdoors.
Very useful information thank you.
Looks good. Sad to see all the hail damage though.
I totally agree with you bro one of my favorite Honda vehicles
Good work bro!
What grit sandpaper ? Awesome car
What a gem and a great price, Happy to see this preserved a little repair is natural and expected on any used vehicle rare find and definitely one of my favorites, on my 5th and 6th Honda, best affordable car built period
Great job. Looks a lot better and I'm sure it runs just a little bit better now, too. I know my car always runs a little bit better right after a wash and wax. :D
Not sure if it was your frame rate. but for a significant portion of your buffing shots the pad wasn't rotating as part of the dual action. The pad needs to spin to get the best out of the system. On a super ruff cut, you're best to dial it right up to max speed and use a little water in a spray bottle to ensure lubrication. That compound is very durable and the abrasives wont break down. jsut use water to reactivate/lubricate.
To get best effects from wet sand, you can get wet-sand pads that'll fit your buffer. makes it way easier. but it looks like there's work to be done. rest assured it can be flattened :)
Took me 15+ hours to bring my yellow 1992 Pulsar GTiR which was equally faded (single stage yellow) back to the world. it's a long and slow journey that can't be rushed.
Best looking car Honda ever made? Agree. One of my favs. Update?
Good Job! A lot of work, indeed. But worth it, as you aptly demonstrated.
Looks awesome. May have to try this on my dull volvo 240 paint. Would be the shiniest brick in town!