Excellent review. I've been using a P70 for about 5 years now and considering upgrading to one of these newer models. You're right that they're not the prettiest or most portable things, but the raw power, screen size, and incredible keyboard keep me coming back
Hello. Very professionally done review. No antics, just down to business which I appreciate. I wish you had let us listen to the fans under, say, business type loads (not encoding or gaming) or mentioned whether they whined and things like that. Perhaps you can comment from what you remember? All in all and excellently produced review. Thank you!
it's really useful to see the full module disassembly/replacement, because sometimes, the original RAM and SSD are soldered in, and you can only add more to the extra slots... as opposed to being able to replace everything. It's really important information that isn't told anywhere.
I think it's a beautiful looking laptop. I work with CAD and render software. The port selection, the amount of power that you can pack on this unit is excellent. I've been going back and forth fourth between this unit and Dell's 7750. But I prefer the port layout on the P17. I also dislike that Dell reduced the arrow keys while Lenovo kept them full size. Would you ever consider doing a review on a Dell 7750?
I've owned 2 Thinkpad Mobile workstations. I have to disagree with your statement that it's not attractive. I absolutely love it's looks. Nice review. Thanks
Corporate discounts are superb on these. About 60% vs website pricing. I just picked up a fully loaded 6 core 32GB Quadro model for under $2000 CAD ($1500 USD) - can't be beat for the professional on the go.
Nice! This looks like the old 700-series models that IBM used to make back in the day. No frills, no flair, all business. Too bad nothing I do would justify buying such a monster.
88% only. Oh man. You are so tough. One day I will give your videos 87% and stop watching. But you are so funny and informative hence i am not sure when it will happen.:) :) :) On a serious note: thank you so much for educating all of us.
Good review. Maybe in the future if compatible accessories/devices with this type of review can be be included as well. For example, what storage type can be added/upgrade specific to the laptop being reviewed. What will support it? Thank you.
If you add touch screen with digital pen, it will turn into a workhorse. If you load it up with proper programs and software, you can turn it into a mobile workstation office.
The "beast" as you call it is for certain type of users. Very good workstation. Camera and mic's are okay but not great but as you say will get the job done. It is interesting to note that you mentioned that the unit you tested goes for about $5.000 dollars. It makes one wonder what you get for the unit at the starting price of about $1,700. Anyway as always another great review.
Beats me why an industrial grade workstation has a toy ( cheap rear view dashcam quality) camera. I love thinkpads but this configuration in the world of 2021 Zoom makes absolutely no sense in a "workstation". Big oversight.
If you are considering the Thinkpad P17 Gen 2 please let think twice before you choose. The P17G2 has issue with left fan - impossible to fix by lenovo, even replacement of cooling system is not work, because the issue is with left fan. High pitched noise is unhealthy and your work will be not comfortable. I used many thinkpads, P,W,X,T and didnt have any issue like that before, this version GEN2 is totally failure, thermal problems and fan noise is not accepted for machine of this class. The issue is known on yt/reddit/lenovo forum. Please do not buy this machine, it is time and money wasting.
I like it! What performs better this Lenovo P17 or Dell Precision 5750 Mobile Workstation 17" with similar configuration Xeon NVIDIA QUADRO, what do the numbers show?
I think I'll wait for Gen 2. More likely I'll go for the Gen 2 T15g. I don't need workstation drivers, so I'd save about $1000 sticking with Geforce. I would like the bigger display, though.
Big, tough, powerful and looks like a classic ThinkPad - just bigger. I think it would have to be my choice if I was in the market as, given its spec, it's not that pricey though probably costs more in the UK.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thank you for the reply. I hope all is good on your end. Interesting points. I'm curious, will there be a refresh on the GPU? In particular, both the Quadro 5000 and RTX. I see the newer RTX 3080. Will there be a new Quadro?
Big, beautiful, powerful and annoyingly overheating. Took it indeed for 50+mpx picture editing and already developed paranoia of this lovely beast going into drama-queen mode and shut down in the middle of everything, happens too often to be normal and it's just 6 months old. Lenovo thinks that 92+ degrees on full performance is okay (srsly?). Core i9vPro Gen 10 with rtx5000.
The specs on that laptop are NO where near that starting price. Lmao 🤣 Given those specs I would say you would be around $5-7K for that setup. Edit: just went back and looked at what you posted and it said “up to” so my comment above is as if you went the top level.
@@andrewmarcdavid I have been playing around with Lenovo’s build and price and boy does it go up in price fast! I’m debating between the P1 / P17 / P15, and different specs within each one. I need a good machine for photo and video editing for my Canon R5. Would also be used for some gaming (including VR).
this is a shitty laptop the CPU throttles a lot you are paying premium for nothing for only 3.5Ghz of clock speed and the GPU wasn't involved in this really awful, and the problem is you can the p15 with the same configuration but less space for cooling so even worse performance, don't get shocked by what is written in paper think.
@@davidarchangels6500 I don't think that there is a laptop capable of running that kind of hardware while cooling it enough just choose a reasonable configuration
While it is good to compare your subjective taste to somebody else's, this review must be used only as a complement to your own research and/or other reviews that contain objective measurements and comparisons.
Excellent review. I've been using a P70 for about 5 years now and considering upgrading to one of these newer models. You're right that they're not the prettiest or most portable things, but the raw power, screen size, and incredible keyboard keep me coming back
Hello. Very professionally done review. No antics, just down to business which I appreciate. I wish you had let us listen to the fans under, say, business type loads (not encoding or gaming) or mentioned whether they whined and things like that. Perhaps you can comment from what you remember? All in all and excellently produced review. Thank you!
it's really useful to see the full module disassembly/replacement, because sometimes, the original RAM and SSD are soldered in, and you can only add more to the extra slots... as opposed to being able to replace everything. It's really important information that isn't told anywhere.
Workstations will never have soldered ram, if they did, it would be a 32gb and + per slot
I think it's a beautiful looking laptop. I work with CAD and render software. The port selection, the amount of power that you can pack on this unit is excellent. I've been going back and forth fourth between this unit and Dell's 7750. But I prefer the port layout on the P17. I also dislike that Dell reduced the arrow keys while Lenovo kept them full size. Would you ever consider doing a review on a Dell 7750?
I think this laptop is absolutely beautiful.
I agree, I cannot put in words how much I love the look of ThinkPads
Thank you for this full review about Lenovo P17. You are the best. 👍
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
I've owned 2 Thinkpad Mobile workstations. I have to disagree with your statement that it's not attractive. I absolutely love it's looks. Nice review. Thanks
Like the way you dismantle its memory and WiFi modules. Nice
I'd love to get one of these if it weren't for that price tag...
They truly are insane machines. As much as I love old thinkpads, I'm all in with my P53. Just opens another world in my mind
Corporate discounts are superb on these. About 60% vs website pricing. I just picked up a fully loaded 6 core 32GB Quadro model for under $2000 CAD ($1500 USD) - can't be beat for the professional on the go.
Try eBay.
Nice! This looks like the old 700-series models that IBM used to make back in the day. No frills, no flair, all business. Too bad nothing I do would justify buying such a monster.
Thanks for the review, it's good to see mobile workstation review!
Thanks really appreciate it 🙏
webcam looks good and voice sounds fine. I've enjoyed my P71, but thinking of upgrading to a nicer screen found on the P17. Nice review.
Very professional review, thank you.
88% only. Oh man. You are so tough. One day I will give your videos 87% and stop watching. But you are so funny and informative hence i am not sure when it will happen.:) :) :) On a serious note: thank you so much for educating all of us.
Good day for a new review. Hello Andrew!
Thank you. I was looking at the specs for machine learning.
I never saw a good webcam in lenovos laptops, unfortunately.
Good review. Maybe in the future if compatible accessories/devices with this type of review can be be included as well. For example, what storage type can be added/upgrade specific to the laptop being reviewed. What will support it? Thank you.
This is my CAD machine at work. I like it!!!
Great video review! I was wondering if this is that much better and worth upgrading from the Lenovo P53.
If you add touch screen with digital pen, it will turn into a workhorse. If you load it up with proper programs and software, you can turn it into a mobile workstation office.
The "beast" as you call it is for certain type of users. Very good workstation. Camera and mic's are okay but not great but as you say will get the job done. It is interesting to note that you mentioned that the unit you tested goes for about $5.000 dollars. It makes one wonder what you get for the unit at the starting price of about $1,700. Anyway as always another great review.
Part of the cost is the High Resoution screen
Great review, thank you! Is it possible to replace the gpu card in the future, or it’s better buy the best you can afford?
Finally!Loved it 🧡💛💚💙💜
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
@@andrewmarcdavid next livestream?
My next laptop. Thanks for the review.
The only flaw I can see with this laptop is the screen aspect ratio. Otherwise it's perfect.
Beats me why an industrial grade workstation has a toy ( cheap rear view dashcam quality) camera. I love thinkpads but this configuration in the world of 2021 Zoom makes absolutely no sense in a "workstation". Big oversight.
mouth breathers show up to the board room with their skinny laptops and engineers show up with, "The beast".
Thanks for a great review. :)
What would be a good config of this device for 4k 60fps editing with davinci? Thank you for your expertise.
If you are considering the Thinkpad P17 Gen 2 please let think twice before you choose. The P17G2 has issue with left fan - impossible to fix by lenovo, even replacement of cooling system is not work, because the issue is with left fan. High pitched noise is unhealthy and your work will be not comfortable. I used many thinkpads, P,W,X,T and didnt have any issue like that before, this version GEN2 is totally failure, thermal problems and fan noise is not accepted for machine of this class. The issue is known on yt/reddit/lenovo forum. Please do not buy this machine, it is time and money wasting.
I have the 15.6"....I just wished that the DVD burners came back.
Wow a laptop with 4 ram slots. This is why I love Thinkpads
I just picked this up with a 10th gen i9 processor for 1600 new
I like it! What performs better this Lenovo P17 or Dell Precision 5750 Mobile Workstation 17" with similar configuration Xeon NVIDIA QUADRO, what do the numbers show?
good review,kindly do review of xmg laptop of 3000 series gpu
How is this compared to the Dell 7750? What would be your first choice, Dell or Lenovo?
Thank you for your full review of the Lenovo P17.
Thanks Bro!
I think I'll wait for Gen 2. More likely I'll go for the Gen 2 T15g. I don't need workstation drivers, so I'd save about $1000 sticking with Geforce. I would like the bigger display, though.
I like this, i have a older P71 , a great mobile workstation
Good!. Take care.
Hi Andrew, I have owned my P1 Gen3 for a few months now. The fan on this device is running constantly. Would that be the same with the P17? Thank you.
Big, tough, powerful and looks like a classic ThinkPad - just bigger.
I think it would have to be my choice if I was in the market as, given its spec, it's not that pricey though probably costs more in the UK.
Hello. It is able this laptop to render a 4 k scene in 3ds max, for a short period of time, or should i use a desktop for heavy rendering?
Is this laptop has no fan? Thank you
Is this an old video accidently uploaded by Andrew? I felt like partying like it's 1999
Just got one. I like it.
Does this laptop has virtualization tech? thank you
I think it is beautiful thus no wonder it is very powerful beast!
can you do a review on ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 Intel - Mobile Workstation?
Already did it
@@andrewmarcdavid please give a link and your positives vs negatives list.
It is time for ARM based solutions
What did you mean by you could using it for gaming? Is there a reason why you wouldn't?
It's not a gaming laptop it's a workstation. That being said you can game on it.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thank you for the reply. I hope all is good on your end. Interesting points. I'm curious, will there be a refresh on the GPU? In particular, both the Quadro 5000 and RTX. I see the newer RTX 3080. Will there be a new Quadro?
Lenovo 💪👍💪😍👍😍
What kind of screwdriver did you use to disassemble?
From iFixit kit
Still 16:9 aspect ratio!??
I love big daddy Lenovo thinkpad!
Big, beautiful, powerful and annoyingly overheating. Took it indeed for 50+mpx picture editing and already developed paranoia of this lovely beast going into drama-queen mode and shut down in the middle of everything, happens too often to be normal and it's just 6 months old. Lenovo thinks that 92+ degrees on full performance is okay (srsly?). Core i9vPro Gen 10 with rtx5000.
Is it a touchscreen?
No, but you can get an P1, X1, P14, etc that has touchscreen.
Technically you can play on this laptop
The specs on that laptop are NO where near that starting price. Lmao 🤣
Given those specs I would say you would be around $5-7K for that setup.
Edit: just went back and looked at what you posted and it said “up to” so my comment above is as if you went the top level.
So funny you should mention. I just received The ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 the other day.
@@andrewmarcdavid I have been playing around with Lenovo’s build and price and boy does it go up in price fast! I’m debating between the P1 / P17 / P15, and different specs within each one. I need a good machine for photo and video editing for my Canon R5. Would also be used for some gaming (including VR).
this is a shitty laptop the CPU throttles a lot you are paying premium for nothing for only 3.5Ghz of clock speed and the GPU wasn't involved in this really awful, and the problem is you can the p15 with the same configuration but less space for cooling so even worse performance, don't get shocked by what is written in paper think.
So which do u recommend.....overall..?
ur fav that is..
@@davidarchangels6500 I don't think that there is a laptop capable of running that kind of hardware while cooling it enough just choose a reasonable configuration
While it is good to compare your subjective taste to somebody else's, this review must be used only as a complement to your own research and/or other reviews that contain objective measurements and comparisons.