Hate how here's no amd U option. The chassis cooling is actually great and would be better with just a ryzen 7 u alone and it would compete against the M1 line.
Lenovo makes very Premium laptops whether you're talking about their consumer line or in this case, their business line and the ThinkPad P1 Gen 6 is a perfect example of a Premium business laptop. The 1440p resolution webcam is crisp and so is the audio quality of the built-in mics. The audio quality of the built-in speakers is not bad for a Windows laptop. As Andrew stated it brilliantly in this video, if this is the laptop you're interested in or any other Lenovo laptop for that matter, keep checking the Lenovo website as they're always having sales! Great video Andrew!! 👍😁
Nice PC for those users who it is intended for. Camera and mics were good. Speakers sounded okay. Display is good. If you have a memory stick ddr5 lying around you might want to insert it in the second slot and rerun some of your tests to see how much it improves performance. Just a suggestion. Anyway a great review.
@@TM-bj6zh Vapour Chamber is essentially when you have a hollow metal heatsink with vapour inside instead of a solid chunk of metal. It allows for quicker dissipation of heat. DRL? Don't think I understand what DRL stands for in this context
Lenovo Reaaaally needs to figure out how to add 5G wireless and at minimum a secondary 2230 ssd slot, with the vapor chamber cooling. It makes no sense how the higher you go up in the options, the less options you get lol
I would love to see a review or a comparison to the HP ZBook Studio 16 G10, they are very similiar on paper an are targeting a similiar audience. the HP one also goes up to a A4000 Ada or a RTX 4080 in a under 2kg package!
Thanks a lot for the review - I always look forward to your reviews of ThinkPads. I really am close to pulling the trigger, just am a tad turned off by the lack of Intel Meteor Lake in it. 13th Gen is essentially not up to date now, and Meteor Lake has finally closed Intels gap to last gen AMD Ryzen and Apple M. And also my X1 Extreme Gen 2 is essentially still doing fine, just the gaming performance has started lacking in the last year.
Beautiful laptop, saw it on sale but wasn't able to buy it, would have to wait😢. I know you reviewed the p1 gen 4, i was wandering about the review for the p1 gen 5?
@@andrewmarcdavidthe controller for ddr5 is on the ram itself , each stick runs in dual channel. You will get slightly better performance running two sticks but nothing like the difference when running one stick of ddr4 vs 2 sticks. For ddr5 at the same speed and latency, 32gb will be faster than 16gb that will be faster than 8gb. That is a more important concern. Don’t run 8gb sticks, they are slower.
@@CyberTweaker DDR5 runs in dual channel but only 32 bits (2 x 32 bits). If you use 2 stick DDR5, CPU-Z will show 4 x 32 bits, much faster than 1 stick.
Andrew, I know you put in a lot of work into your videos. I just subbed my friend. Thank you. Btw - didn't think I'd ever see a Thinkpad w a 4080, so dope 😎
Hi Andrew, really love your extensive reviews! I'm wondering if you can get your hands on the lenovo thinkstation workstations? The new p5, p7 and px machines look insane and would be sick to see a review from you!
Cooling is not good. Are u sure you used one on some modest load? Temp goes very high, vents will try to keep up. They will definitely kick you out in court 😊
ım asking for daily task, for example coding with vscode with some chrome tasks.. its totaly work silent like ultrabook? Or can i configure fan speed for this type of tasks?
Nice review. Does the trackpad is still made with a soft coating that wears off, becoming a shiny spot in the area where the fingers are most used? If yes, what is your guess about why Lenovo does not use a ceramic coated trackpad?
i truley have just discovered why 2 in 1 laptops are supposed to open 360 degree, if i was laying on bed and needed to set the laptop on my chest and work..
Have P1 G6 with 13700H and A2000. Superb laptop also have only one 32GB dual channel stick but will upgrade to 64GB quad channel. One of the best features is 4g always on connection and secondary nvme option helps too. I have 2K 165Hz display and its the best option in my opinion as its not glossy at all and 60Hz is not enough. Only issue I had when I got it was with thermals but after repaste with Noctua H1 problems disappeared. Will do TG conductonaut and K5 PRO next week. Should see further improvements.
ThinkPad P1 Gen 6 Intel (16″) Mobile Workstation,Intel® Core™ i9, 96 GB RAM - Black Weave - SUCK. Died down after a week. Reboots/restart, but black dark screen.
I have the same laptop with the same spec. It says the battery would last in about 7 hours or so but mine only last in about 3 hours. I am using it for programming tasks (python, docker, and etc).
Lenovo just announced that they are releasing the P1 Gen 7. It seems to be similar but they are adopting the CAMM memory configuration. Andrew - are you going to be testing the new P1 Gen 7 out?
Please talk about the touch grid that is clearly visible with 4K OLED, talk about the red glow on every text, talk about windows (10/11) scaling issues (this needs to stay at 250%), please talk honestly about the battery, please talk honestly about the temperature and the fans, talk about how you're forced to use the dedicated GPU to have a modest experience, talk about the fact that, for those money, it doesn't bring absolutely nothing! Please be honest!
could you please talk about it..? because you obviously have something to sat and as a consumer who's considering the P1 with that screen, I'll be happy to hear :)
Hey. In my opinion, P1-g6 is a totally waste of money. I hate everything in it, except the keyboard and the aspect. Where to begin… CPU - whatever i9 13900h can deliver, but expect huge throttling in conjunction with the dedicated gpu. The temperature is crazy high, you absolutely can’t work with it on your lap. The vent will sound like a hairdryer when temp reaches 70 celsius. Under higher gpu load for 10 mins plus, it can go to 90+ degrees; my desk smells burnt (not joking). The battery - what battery? You need the brick with you everywhere and I swear, it’s a brick (0.94 kg). If you don’t have it with you, expect under 1h on very modest load (browsing, teams, some excels and outlook) with cpu load under 10%. Gpu - this is what astonished me; check the price of rtx5000 ada (this is mine). For that money, it does close to nothing. I have it (work laptop) for local inference (ml/llm) and it’s modest compared with my personal m2 max. And it burns, it burns… Then the display - again, no joke, it’s not good. It has great color but a display it’s not all about colors. You can easily see the touch grid and there’s a glow on contrasts (like black text on white background). Because of 4k res, you need to keep the aspect ratio at 250%. And windows (even 11) is not fully ready for that. They advertise a presence sensor (eliptic virtual lock), that’s a garbage, it randomly dim / sleep. I had to disable it. The touchpad is nothing like a smooth experience. The fingerprint reader works on 60-70% cases on the first try. I might be picky but, honestly, for the money, I can’t believe how bad it is. Make sure that, if you dare to buy it, take good care of it to be able to return. And make sure you can return. Good luck!
Will you please tell me how the heating issue is with this laptop? I've read online that even just browsing the web makes it run extremely hot, and it sounds like a jet engine!
Just got my P1 Gen6 RTX4080 in the mail but as I was booting it up to configure wierd fan clicking noise coming from the left speaker side. Does anyone know if this is “normal”
I have not experienced that with this unit which is one of the high end models. When I ran the Time Spy Stress Test, no throttling detected. Now it does warm up under load as I showed in the video but not to the point where it is not usable or any hardware failure.
@@tnetroP The trackpoint is good stuff, the concaved key caps are undeniably wobbly. Also, who puts the FN key where the CTL button is on every keyboard??? Get an Asus or Dell and you'll know what I mean.
@@xuelee6403 It's obviously preference., after all a lot of people said they liked the old mabook butterfly keyboard and I found that to be a mess. I've had Asus and used Dell and prefer the Thinkpad keyboard. The TP keyboard also has a better layout with separate home/end/pgup/pgdn keys which I use a lot. The FN/Ctrl on a TP also works well for me because of why it's done that way; it's because it's easy to locate it without thinking when you need to turn on key backlighting in the dark. Again everything is personal preference and if TP ends up with a Dell or Asus keyboard I wouldn't buy it. Sadly every year that goes past they get thinner and more like those devices.
Hate how here's no amd U option. The chassis cooling is actually great and would be better with just a ryzen 7 u alone and it would compete against the M1 line.
Lenovo makes very Premium laptops whether you're talking about their consumer line or in this case, their business line and the ThinkPad P1 Gen 6 is a perfect example of a Premium business laptop. The 1440p resolution webcam is crisp and so is the audio quality of the built-in mics. The audio quality of the built-in speakers is not bad for a Windows laptop. As Andrew stated it brilliantly in this video, if this is the laptop you're interested in or any other Lenovo laptop for that matter, keep checking the Lenovo website as they're always having sales! Great video Andrew!! 👍😁
Nice PC for those users who it is intended for. Camera and mics were good. Speakers sounded okay. Display is good. If you have a memory stick ddr5 lying around you might want to insert it in the second slot and rerun some of your tests to see how much it improves performance. Just a suggestion. Anyway a great review.
Thanks William. Yes, I plan on doing that soon. but I wanted to test it first with the single stick of RAM.
The review I was waiting for the last 2 weeks after the unboxing video before ordering this device. Thank you, Andrew
Wow $3200 for this version just fyi. Would of hoped for 64gigs for that price.
I tested a P1 Gen6 Rtx A2000 FHD+, battery life = 9.5 hours
Thats crazy, my asus does 2hrs max
Does the rtx2000 version come with Vapour Chamber?
@@TheRockeyAllenI don’t believe so, however that model should have a second SSD slot if memory serves me right.
@@TheRockeyAllen whats a vapour chamber, and why is it important ( I do DRL + simulations engines)
@@TM-bj6zh Vapour Chamber is essentially when you have a hollow metal heatsink with vapour inside instead of a solid chunk of metal. It allows for quicker dissipation of heat.
DRL? Don't think I understand what DRL stands for in this context
Lenovo Reaaaally needs to figure out how to add 5G wireless and at minimum a secondary 2230 ssd slot, with the vapor chamber cooling. It makes no sense how the higher you go up in the options, the less options you get lol
Would love to see the review of the 2024 gen 7 model.
I'm surprised no one has a review out yet. They are available for order already.
They are shite
compare it with hp zbook studio g10
I would love to see a review or a comparison to the HP ZBook Studio 16 G10, they are very similiar on paper an are targeting a similiar audience. the HP one also goes up to a A4000 Ada or a RTX 4080 in a under 2kg package!
Good review, keep em coming Andrew.
I personally prefer the Z16 Gen 2 - memory is not upgradable, but 64GB is enough for me.
What are the main difference in between the X1 gen12 and the p1 gen 6/7? I am on finance industry.
Be careful with 96 gig ram. Current users reporting BSOD, with bios updates etc… Lenovo knows about the issue and will be releasing a bios fix.
Thanks a lot for the review - I always look forward to your reviews of ThinkPads. I really am close to pulling the trigger, just am a tad turned off by the lack of Intel Meteor Lake in it. 13th Gen is essentially not up to date now, and Meteor Lake has finally closed Intels gap to last gen AMD Ryzen and Apple M. And also my X1 Extreme Gen 2 is essentially still doing fine, just the gaming performance has started lacking in the last year.
How does this stack up against Dell Precision 5690 ?
Beautiful laptop, saw it on sale but wasn't able to buy it, would have to wait😢.
I know you reviewed the p1 gen 4, i was wandering about the review for the p1 gen 5?
When do you think it comes with 14th gen Intel processors?
Hey, great review :)
But just a correction: DDR5 is always dual-channel, even with a single memory stick.
Thanks for the info! Notebookcheck reported this a single channel as well. I am looking into this and will report my findings.
@@andrewmarcdavidthe controller for ddr5 is on the ram itself , each stick runs in dual channel. You will get slightly better performance running two sticks but nothing like the difference when running one stick of ddr4 vs 2 sticks. For ddr5 at the same speed and latency, 32gb will be faster than 16gb that will be faster than 8gb. That is a more important concern. Don’t run 8gb sticks, they are slower.
@@CyberTweaker ok thanks for the clarification
@@CyberTweaker DDR5 runs in dual channel but only 32 bits (2 x 32 bits). If you use 2 stick DDR5, CPU-Z will show 4 x 32 bits, much faster than 1 stick.
How about gen7 ?
This laptop is beautiful! 😍 Saw it yesterday at MicroCenter… I want one now.
Andrew, I know you put in a lot of work into your videos. I just subbed my friend. Thank you. Btw - didn't think I'd ever see a Thinkpad w a 4080, so dope 😎
Thanks 🙏
Hi Andrew, really love your extensive reviews! I'm wondering if you can get your hands on the lenovo thinkstation workstations? The new p5, p7 and px machines look insane and would be sick to see a review from you!
Cooling is good. I had three Extremes and the cooling fan was so loud I could not use in court
Cooling is not good. Are u sure you used one on some modest load? Temp goes very high, vents will try to keep up. They will definitely kick you out in court 😊
Those benchmarks are dismal. Would have preferred to see a better comparison with HP and Apple but I get that it's Lenovo's fault.
We need a good review of Asus zenbook 14 UX3405 ASAP....
I have one on the way should have it next week
ım asking for daily task, for example coding with vscode with some chrome tasks.. its totaly work silent like ultrabook? Or can i configure fan speed for this type of tasks?
Your reviews are always so awesome man. You deserve more subs. Seriously good. Influenced a few of my purchases over the years brother!
Nice review. Does the trackpad is still made with a soft coating that wears off, becoming a shiny spot in the area where the fingers are most used? If yes, what is your guess about why Lenovo does not use a ceramic coated trackpad?
Look at that empty space that could be used to accomodate bigger battery, RAM, and SSD!! another wasted oppotunity.
i truley have just discovered why 2 in 1 laptops are supposed to open 360 degree, if i was laying on bed and needed to set the laptop on my chest and work..
nice ,doesnt have notch
This is an excellent review, definitely one of the best laptop unboxing + tear down videos I've seen in a long time.
P1 gen7, when???
please compare with a macbook while testing the speakers, we are not able to judge if the speakers are good or not
Geed review, it helps a lot determining what laptop I need for my job.
I wish to see special Scientific applications that can get full advantage of this NLP unit.
How does this laptop compare to p16v gen 2? Which one is better?
Is RAM limited speed? Is it 5600MHz or lower?
Have P1 G6 with 13700H and A2000. Superb laptop also have only one 32GB dual channel stick but will upgrade to 64GB quad channel. One of the best features is 4g always on connection and secondary nvme option helps too. I have 2K 165Hz display and its the best option in my opinion as its not glossy at all and 60Hz is not enough. Only issue I had when I got it was with thermals but after repaste with Noctua H1 problems disappeared. Will do TG conductonaut and K5 PRO next week. Should see further improvements.
ThinkPad P1 Gen 6 Intel (16″) Mobile Workstation,Intel® Core™ i9, 96 GB RAM - Black Weave - SUCK. Died down after a week. Reboots/restart, but black dark screen.
There is a bios fix for you 96 GB. Who needs 96 GB anyway???
Its p1 and extreme?!?! Haha
How does this compare to the X1 Extreme gen 5?.
I love my p1 gen6
I just ordered one, can't wait to get it! My P1 Gen 2 has served me very well, still working, but time for a new table saw!
Would you recommend this over a Razer blade 16?
I have the same laptop with the same spec. It says the battery would last in about 7 hours or so but mine only last in about 3 hours. I am using it for programming tasks (python, docker, and etc).
3h, you are lucky 😊
Can you replace gpu like on P16 gen 1-2?
Lenovo just announced that they are releasing the P1 Gen 7. It seems to be similar but they are adopting the CAMM memory configuration.
Andrew - are you going to be testing the new P1 Gen 7 out?
Yes, I am planning on reviewing it.
Have you had a chance testing it yet?
A review of the P16v gen 1, please!
First viewer from Bangladesh ❤
Please talk about the touch grid that is clearly visible with 4K OLED, talk about the red glow on every text, talk about windows (10/11) scaling issues (this needs to stay at 250%), please talk honestly about the battery, please talk honestly about the temperature and the fans, talk about how you're forced to use the dedicated GPU to have a modest experience, talk about the fact that, for those money, it doesn't bring absolutely nothing! Please be honest!
RTX5000 ADA gives about 45-55 tokens / second with LLAMA3-8B. I got 60 with M2 MAX
could you please talk about it..? because you obviously have something to sat and as a consumer who's considering the P1 with that screen, I'll be happy to hear :)
Hey. In my opinion, P1-g6 is a totally waste of money. I hate everything in it, except the keyboard and the aspect. Where to begin… CPU - whatever i9 13900h can deliver, but expect huge throttling in conjunction with the dedicated gpu. The temperature is crazy high, you absolutely can’t work with it on your lap. The vent will sound like a hairdryer when temp reaches 70 celsius. Under higher gpu load for 10 mins plus, it can go to 90+ degrees; my desk smells burnt (not joking). The battery - what battery? You need the brick with you everywhere and I swear, it’s a brick (0.94 kg). If you don’t have it with you, expect under 1h on very modest load (browsing, teams, some excels and outlook) with cpu load under 10%. Gpu - this is what astonished me; check the price of rtx5000 ada (this is mine). For that money, it does close to nothing. I have it (work laptop) for local inference (ml/llm) and it’s modest compared with my personal m2 max. And it burns, it burns… Then the display - again, no joke, it’s not good. It has great color but a display it’s not all about colors. You can easily see the touch grid and there’s a glow on contrasts (like black text on white background). Because of 4k res, you need to keep the aspect ratio at 250%. And windows (even 11) is not fully ready for that. They advertise a presence sensor (eliptic virtual lock), that’s a garbage, it randomly dim / sleep. I had to disable it. The touchpad is nothing like a smooth experience. The fingerprint reader works on 60-70% cases on the first try. I might be picky but, honestly, for the money, I can’t believe how bad it is. Make sure that, if you dare to buy it, take good care of it to be able to return. And make sure you can return. Good luck!
Do we know if the P1 Gen 6 supports Double Sided SSDs (e.g. 4TB or 8TB ones), or does it only support single sided SSDs like the older P1 Gen 4?
I am using double sided 990S 4TB in this laptop
Nit pick on brightness 😂 nice
Will you please tell me how the heating issue is with this laptop? I've read online that even just browsing the web makes it run extremely hot, and it sounds like a jet engine!
Running an I9 with 4090, it is a little louder and hotter, but not offensive at all. Just watch if on a blanket or something so it breathes.
That’s perfectly true, 100% accurate
I want to ask whether this OLED touch screen adopts the oncell solution and has a grid screen?
A visible grid screen
can you review msi prestige 16 ai studio
with ddr5 even 1 stick works kind of like dual channel so there is no much drop of performance
Just got my P1 Gen6 RTX4080 in the mail but as I was booting it up to configure wierd fan clicking noise coming from the left speaker side. Does anyone know if this is “normal”
Why it's not Yoga Style ???
To me a 16" tablet is just too heavy for any long term use.
There are reviews of this that say it overheats and hardware fails after a few hours of use for some, on the higher end spec model.
I have not experienced that with this unit which is one of the high end models. When I ran the Time Spy Stress Test, no throttling detected. Now it does warm up under load as I showed in the video but not to the point where it is not usable or any hardware failure.
I think so, Lenovo is really s|tupid in design, the laptop too hot. I think they will limit/decrease RAM speed in this model but it is still hot.
$2900 msrp, that means it will be $1500 used on ebay next summer.
Btw I can never tell if a laptop is a he or she. (or a car for that matter)
I have always thought female but I could be wrong.
@@andrewmarcdavid I think you're right because I can turn her on 🤣
A P1 is badass, so its a boy lol
As long as Lenovo keeps these floppy keyboard on every one of their machines, I won't be buying them.
The keyboard (and trackpoint) is one of the big reasons most of us buy Thinkpads.
@@tnetroP The trackpoint is good stuff, the concaved key caps are undeniably wobbly. Also, who puts the FN key where the CTL button is on every keyboard??? Get an Asus or Dell and you'll know what I mean.
@@xuelee6403 It's obviously preference., after all a lot of people said they liked the old mabook butterfly keyboard and I found that to be a mess. I've had Asus and used Dell and prefer the Thinkpad keyboard. The TP keyboard also has a better layout with separate home/end/pgup/pgdn keys which I use a lot. The FN/Ctrl on a TP also works well for me because of why it's done that way; it's because it's easy to locate it without thinking when you need to turn on key backlighting in the dark. Again everything is personal preference and if TP ends up with a Dell or Asus keyboard I wouldn't buy it. Sadly every year that goes past they get thinner and more like those devices.
A pity they did not include USB C charging
I desperately tried to figure this out, seems to be because usb c can not actually transfer enough power for the gpu
It can indeed charge from usb-c!
@@emrefidan6702 not enough power tho for model with 4090
It will charge if you use at minimum 100W pd. Check the cable if it doesn’t, you need a rated cable to work
So expensive though
I'm watching from Turkey