@@FortoFight I think Spot has been played by at least two different cats. A canonical explanation could be that Data has had multiple cats through the years, and named them all Spot.
That response would require emotion, even though ironically it's claiming it doesn't give a fuck. This is a break-up without emotions on Data's end. That's why it seems so funny to us. If only it was that easy for the rest of us...
Data himself has cited that he can "miss" someone he has become accustomed to, and his loyalty, kindness, and attention would never waver. He'd be a good boyfriend, just not for someone who needs constant emotional interplay or validation.
Exactly! For someone who is emotionally and intelectually well adjusted, and understands Data's limitations and also his potential, a relationship with him could be a great success. I would certainly consider it an opportunity worth personally investigating.
For us, having the luxury to look in as outsiders, not even in their universe, perhaps. But for a woman who is in the actual relationship, unsure of whether her touch or look or presence pleases her partner or causes distaste, and unaccustomed to the fact that it uniformly causes neither, the relationship might be torture. Human beings in a relationship want their love and care verifiably reciprocated; they see validation and fulfillment in the other's emotions...passion for passion, joy for joy. We are, in the end, far pettier creatures than Data can hope to aspire towards.
What she did not tell Data was that she had just met a young Vulcan. She thinks her new love interest will finally be the work. The guy is so passionate. He just invited her to his Pon Farr party.
I wouldn't say that. Data was seeing this as a chance to learn and understand one of the most complex elements of humanity in the form of a romantic relationship. Unfortunately, it seems that his own progress on his journey to become more human hadn't progressed to the point where he could have a true emotional investment yet in that sort of relationship. So I think he still found the time he spent with her to be productive, even if the result was him realizing he still wasn't "there" yet.
@@tiffanybatcheller-harris522 Being an android he can hump at a super-fast speed for many hours. Unfortunately the great friction generated (somewhat like rubbing sticks together) often resulted in Data's sexual partners spontaneously combusting...
Ar'drian from "Ensigns of Command" would have been a better girlfriend for Data since she's interested in him as a person and not just attracted to his good looks alone like Jenna was.
"That is a valid projection" to think that a woman's projection is to _make_ a man make her feelings matter Nowhere in my programming is that an ambition to strive after
"Jenna, are we no longer...a couple"?"No, we're not"."Then I will delete the appropriate program." That's some cold shit right there...how the hell did Brad Spiner keep a straight face with that line? Added 4 years later... I know the guy’s name is “Brent”. Always have, I can only attribute “Brad” to my older iphone’s auto correct. Nevertheless, I am leaving it here to give context to the replies. And...it was still some cold ass shit.
Yes, he took his out. His ethics program was satisfied to drop her and free up program space once she decided to start playing games. If only I could have been so smart in some of my interactions.
I think the moment with spot is very telling and beautiful. They say animals have a way of detecting our moods and how we feel, and spot immediatly went to data as if to comfort him after his breakup. Even though Data cannot feel emotion, spot could detect that in his own way, he was hurting or upset, and went over to try and make him 'feel' better.
The writers of TNG explained Data's equivalent of emotions very well all the way back at Tasha's death. While Data could not feel conventional grief, Tasha added something to his experiences that was enriching and valuable. The removal of her input into Data's consciousness was indeed a state he did not prefer to exist in. And so he "felt" a genuine sense of loss, and was preoccupied with the reality that there was no way to get the state of being around Tasha back. It was gone forever. And thus Picard saw that Data did in fact understand loss.
There's no telling what it finally took to get the cat to do that. Brent Spiner said working with the "Spot" cat was the absolute worst experience of the show.
Data: If you are encountering difficulties involving a female individual, I offer you any sympathy I can provide, my friend. I am currently faced with an exact sum of 99 simultaneous complications, However a woman with an incompatible personality is not among them.
Can we talk about how brutal that break up was? "It's not me, it's you. I know your one singular goal is to become more human and experience emotions but you are absolutely incapable of that so I'm done with you."
Yeah man she knew from the beginning that this is how he is, would have been nice if they could have kept the relationship going a season and ended it later on
Jenna: "I don't matter to you, not really". Data doesn't argue that point and deletes her ass out of his life, yet he keeps a Star Wars like crystal that projects Tasha's image. Conclusion, Data was in it for the rebound. LOL.
Data had a very strong connection with Tasha. In his own way he did love her. This woman was a fool for letting go of Data. Data Cannot lie, steal, cheat, Data often risks his very existence for his friends and always willing to help what better friend than a Data.
"I shall delete the appropriate program." *Data waiting for the chick to leave* "I am not programmed with the human trait referred to as stuttering. So I fail to understand why you should remain immobile within the parameter of my private quarters."
That says much about her, when Spot jumped into his lap and asked for affection and received it. She was the one broken emotionally and couldn't understand Data's true worth as a loving unconditional friend.
@@fredocarroll Love isn't only just a feeling, part of it is a choice. Data had that part down, he even goes for choices that should be irrational to him, but it's to help his friends.
@@madmanmikey Why would I care about having a thumbs-up? How sad would you have to be to go and count your thumbs-up on comments? If I called about plaudits over substance, I'd only be qualified to be POTUS.
Only that cute cat stands finally on his side. But ... just being ,giving some company & feeding is sufficient for a cat - not for humans. Specially for women x__X
Poor Data! That girl really liked him as long as he was just being himself... As soon as he started to write relationship-subroutines he became quite a creep because he started to imitate bad human stereotypes. Poor girl also... wanted to be in a relationship with one nice guy and ended up making the guy trying to be bad imitations of other guys... Very good writing that episode!
Nah. I had a cat who was sneaking over to see my neighbor cat. We thought is was exclusive until we realized he was banging all the cats in the neighborhood. Cats are hoes, too.
Data has his own kind of feelings even if not human. Data is a very considerate being, very kind attentive, and spent much of his resources on trying to make her happy. As a man i could only dream have a woman who is like Data.
I rewatched this episode last night after several years. It's such a subtle but meaningful episode. We can't have relationships without emotion. It would have been nice to see Data in a relationship, but alas, this episode reaches the heartbreaking, harsh, but logical conclusion, that Data simply can't carry on a true romantic relationship.
Sam Mills That's a very old comment, but I wanted to answer just for fun ^^ I too think this episod to be very meaningful. If we read between the lines, it's not so much about Data but about love in general. There are important lessons to be drawn from the episod, like the fact that one should love their mate for who they are instead of trying to change them. It also tells a lot about the difference between mere attraction (like what Jenna feels) and true involvement (Data consciously chose to dedicate much memory and resources to the routine). And it teaches an important final lesson : one should be aware of the possible repeating pattern they are experiencing when choosing a wrong mate once again. Loads of interesting things here ! That being said, I don't agree on the idea that Data could never have a romantic relationship. I am pretty sure he could actually be a wonderful spouse ; but only for the right person. He'd need someone who knows a lot about cybernetics, logics and computer sciences, and who would be okay with what "dating a droid" encompasses - like the fact he can't exactly feel emotion. That makes me think a lot about the manga called Chobits, in which a man ends up dating his female persocom (for personal computers, human-like computers) despite knowing she can never love him like a human would.
"I love the part at the end. How he says "I will delete the appropriate program", I had to laugh, because I wish it were so easy. " What I liked about that particular comment, so timed, was the context. "I have expended a large amount of resources in its creation." Follow that with her little, "Nothing I can say or do will make you happy or sad... or touch you in any way." Then he follows it with that? Talk about a verbal backhand.
This episode was one of my favorites. surprisingly, I've watched it over last week after 2 decades, and I must suggest that this breakup clearly shows Data to be an incompetent partner to a human female, a fact I only could have comprehended by a second viewing and a lot of life experience. As a teenager I thought it would be cool to see Data fall in love with a female. This time I've understood that even in 'Picard' we don't get to see him raising a family. That's a shame, imho
I think it depends more on what you want out of a relationship than what species the partners are. Sure, it sounds a bit callous when he says he will delete the appropriate files, but from another angle, he wanted to connect with her so badly that he wrote a suite of files and programs that he thought would assist him in doing so. He did his best. He fundamentally changed himself for her--not just his home and his schedule but his very core. That wasn't enough for her. Geordi has a much better relationship with Data because Geordi appreciates Data as he is, not for what he wants Data to be. I do think Data could have a fulfilling romantic relationship if the other person had relationship goals that were appropriately in tune with Data's nature. What I look for in someone is the ability to carry on meaningful conversations and learn stuff I didn't know before. I friendzoned someone because every time I had a conversation above a third grade reading level with her, her eyes glossed over and she stared at me like a dead fish and said she had street smarts and not book smarts. She offered to provide for me financially and travel around the world with me, but that wasn't enough to overcome the fact that she wanted to know why we couldn't dissect fetus brains so we can tell their parents if they're going to grow up to be gay or straight and how it was possible that un-contacted tribes in the Amazon had never heard of Jesus because hadn't they ever asked themselves what it was two thousand years since (yes, she did seriously ask both those questions). I think I could probably have a decently fulfilling relationship with Data because I'm pretty sure he could always have something interesting to talk about.
If there was a reason this relationship failed, it was because she expected something she never properly asked for. Data responds well to overt suggestions and direct communication, and struggles to understand innuendo, as hard as he tries. This is made clear with every interaction you could possibly have with him. So, if that's the case, why should he have to do all the work here? He was perfectly communicative to her. He didn't lie to her, he didn't expect anything other than what he directly stated. In the end, it was her that could not read the room, not him. The moment she started to process the way that he works, she just gave up. She didn't even try to understand him. The moment she decided that he didn't care about her, she stopped thinking about it.
"I will delete the appropriate program." ZING! Now who broke up with WHO? What's that smell? Data's ex gettin roasted! See how dopey she looked after that? See how fast he got over it?
@silverfoxeater An extra serving of cringe. Odd enough responding to a comment after eight months, but eight years? Some time away from your phone may serve you well
Well observed. It has always been my view that it isn't that Data never had emotions before the emotion chip. It is more like they were latent or ambient at most but full process could not be experienced as we would until the final step taken in Generations. That said, as posed in the episode "Measure of a Man" it is asked by the woman with the gavel, does Data have a soul? I like to think Data indeed would have a soul as he is much more than a console and like Pinnochio, was maybe granted life by something beyond the mundane who became the son to his own creator.
Why would you ever break up with someone who is fully functional in every way, someone who is programmed in multiple techniques; a broad variety of pleasuring? Biggest leap of faith I ever had to take watching TNG.
Ouch! "Jenna, are we no longer a couple?" Data forces her to mentally own up to her words, breaking the chances of her ignoring the realization with the next unemotional person she meets. "Then I will delete the appropriate program." There's no longer any turning back for Jenna. In that simple question and retort, Data had just taken Jenna from the "it would be less painful if I break up with him" position to shatter the veil of ideals and expose the lack of foundation.
Well, Spot jumped on Data's lap, so does that mean Data was hurt ? You know, cats can feel emotions a lot more than human. When I was young, I had a cat that would always jump on my lap when I was feeling sad.
"Then I will delete the appropriate program". Oh Data, my boy... you don't know what gift you have there.
blablubb As Picard said, "Data, there are times I envy you."
Data was pimp cold for that
I can't think of a better line than that for a breakup. That's Absolute Zero levels of cold there.
It is really what you have to do as a human also.
You're more man than us all Data
"Data, let's break up."
"OK, whatever, but you've GOT to try that meal I cooked."
Ungrateful broad wouldn't even have dinner with him. Lol
i spent nanoseconds slaving over a replicator to build this meal
@@SonoftheAllfather WHAT A BITCH RIGHT?!
@@doryfin6284 total skank.
@@tuseroni6085 I think I he actually cooked it though
Jenna : You can't feel emotions, nothing can touch you
Data : That is a valid assumption.
Spot : Meow!
Data : Kittyyyyyyyy!
What it's like to be asexual aromantic in a nutshell.
Well, at least there's one kind of 😺 that gets Data's attention
Data's one true love is Spot. Obviously.
there is some godless, ugly fan fiction and r-34 on the other side of this
@@liberalguy513 Finally, a canonical reason why Spot was originally considered male but eventually gave birth to kittens.
My dog loves me unconditionally. I have no doubt of that. My wife...I would like to think she does as well. 😆
@@FortoFight I think Spot has been played by at least two different cats. A canonical explanation could be that Data has had multiple cats through the years, and named them all Spot.
ends with the only loyal pussy he'll ever know
So that's what a "Data dump" is.
+SuperflyDoctorWhy How great would it be to be able delete the appropriate program after a break up?
Lol, classic ....I wish someone makes a "Thug Life" video which kicks in just after he says he'll delete the appropriate program
Damn...
good one XD
@@dloverise I do it all the time. Or at least, pretend to.
LOL! That was on spot!! LOL And after I wrote it I noticed my comment too! X-D
Data: "Do I look like I give a fuck?"
That response would require emotion, even though ironically it's claiming it doesn't give a fuck. This is a break-up without emotions on Data's end. That's why it seems so funny to us. If only it was that easy for the rest of us...
Read that too, BAM. DELETE> DELETE> DELETE>
+Deathbrewer its easy just try it
@@DeathBringer769 Not necessarily, he could give that response and words without emotion. So no, wrong by you.
"Hmm. There does appear to be a recurring motif."
Boss.
Data himself has cited that he can "miss" someone he has become accustomed to, and his loyalty, kindness, and attention would never waver. He'd be a good boyfriend, just not for someone who needs constant emotional interplay or validation.
I think data missing someone by expecting their activations in his neural network was just data adopting the "little white lie" human trait.
Exactly! For someone who is emotionally and intelectually well adjusted, and understands Data's limitations and also his potential, a relationship with him could be a great success. I would certainly consider it an opportunity worth personally investigating.
Spot: "there, I got my daddy back..."
Lmaooooo
Spot be like: "Spot gots her man back. Maybe someday you'll learn to appreciate 'kind and attentive', bitch."
She made the wrong decision. Data is amazing
But she was completely wrong for him.
I will admit Data, is very excellent in everything .. But Love. In Love he is non-functioning.
@@SightForMemories dead wrong. He is programmed in multiple techniques.
She was too emotionally involved...
Sometimes youre in love too much to give someone more time to readjust his subroutines...
For us, having the luxury to look in as outsiders, not even in their universe, perhaps. But for a woman who is in the actual relationship, unsure of whether her touch or look or presence pleases her partner or causes distaste, and unaccustomed to the fact that it uniformly causes neither, the relationship might be torture. Human beings in a relationship want their love and care verifiably reciprocated; they see validation and fulfillment in the other's emotions...passion for passion, joy for joy. We are, in the end, far pettier creatures than Data can hope to aspire towards.
What she did not tell Data was that she had just met a young Vulcan. She thinks her new love interest will finally be the work. The guy is so passionate. He just invited her to his Pon Farr party.
She'll be very disappointed for the next 7 years though...
Ah, she did matter to data, he dedicated a considerable amount of his resources to her. She was incredibly counterproductive.
That sounds like an accurate description of a relationship to me.
He's becoming more Human all the time, then!
Spot is of more value to him than that splittail. 😆
Typical female
I wouldn't say that. Data was seeing this as a chance to learn and understand one of the most complex elements of humanity in the form of a romantic relationship. Unfortunately, it seems that his own progress on his journey to become more human hadn't progressed to the point where he could have a true emotional investment yet in that sort of relationship. So I think he still found the time he spent with her to be productive, even if the result was him realizing he still wasn't "there" yet.
At the end Spots just like don't worry buddy I still love you,
Right 👍💯
I'll take my cat over a girlfriend any day. I still have a little pussy sharing my bed every night and it's a lot less expensive to live with.
Yo girl, he's an android, what did you expect?
I love Data. He will forever be my favorite in all the series.
I can't decide between Data and the Doc on Voyager, I like both characters equally.
Yar didn’t care. 😂 She went right ahead and humped him anyway. 😘
@@tiffanybatcheller-harris522 Being an android he can hump at a super-fast speed for many hours. Unfortunately the great friction generated (somewhat like rubbing sticks together) often resulted in Data's sexual partners spontaneously combusting...
😂
Ar'drian from "Ensigns of Command" would have been a better girlfriend for Data since she's interested in him as a person and not just attracted to his good looks alone like Jenna was.
Well you can't emotionally manipulate a being with no emotions
OUCH!!!! Best comment in YT history. Bravo sir.
lol
The relationship was all about her, it’s probably why the other guy got bored af
Broads will still try...lol
"That is a valid projection" to think that a woman's projection is to _make_ a man make her feelings matter
Nowhere in my programming is that an ambition to strive after
"Jenna, are we no longer...a couple"?"No, we're not"."Then I will delete the appropriate program."
That's some cold shit right there...how the hell did Brad Spiner keep a straight face with that line? Added 4 years later... I know the guy’s name is “Brent”. Always have, I can only attribute “Brad” to my older iphone’s auto correct. Nevertheless, I am leaving it here to give context to the replies. And...it was still some cold ass shit.
*****
Lol - I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing out my factual error.
She's dumps him, but is the only one who feels bad.
Who the fuck is Brad Spiner? Brent's identical twin brother, because I thought he played Lore.
That was a marvelous performance of true emotionlessness. Not cold, or dismissive. Simply devoid of feeling.
cause all men could you a feature like that at least once.
Even the android knows she's got problems.
Yes, he took his out. His ethics program was satisfied to drop her and free up program space once she decided to start playing games. If only I could have been so smart in some of my interactions.
I think the moment with spot is very telling and beautiful. They say animals have a way of detecting our moods and how we feel, and spot immediatly went to data as if to comfort him after his breakup. Even though Data cannot feel emotion, spot could detect that in his own way, he was hurting or upset, and went over to try and make him 'feel' better.
The writers of TNG explained Data's equivalent of emotions very well all the way back at Tasha's death. While Data could not feel conventional grief, Tasha added something to his experiences that was enriching and valuable. The removal of her input into Data's consciousness was indeed a state he did not prefer to exist in. And so he "felt" a genuine sense of loss, and was preoccupied with the reality that there was no way to get the state of being around Tasha back. It was gone forever. And thus Picard saw that Data did in fact understand loss.
There's no telling what it finally took to get the cat to do that. Brent Spiner said working with the "Spot" cat was the absolute worst experience of the show.
@@bluedotdinosaur I feel he was developing emotions without any need for the chip plot device.
@@kevindavis5966 probably didn't feed the cat for two days then put a sardine in Brent/Data's pocket.
@@bluedotdinosaur ah, that was with Tasha. I thought it was with his girlfriend. Wish I could find that scene where he talks about this.
Data: If you are encountering difficulties involving a female individual,
I offer you any sympathy I can provide, my friend.
I am currently faced with an exact sum of 99 simultaneous complications,
However a woman with an incompatible personality is not among them.
Translation: "If you got girl problems, I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one."
@@dinox4250 Thanks, nothing improves on an obivous joke like an explanation...
@@kevindavis5966 haha i get it it’s sarcasm, because adding an explanation to an obvious joke doesn’t improve its reception. Aaah sarcasm……..
Epic.
She was basically projecting her emotions onto him, as he noted.
As a human this bothers us on Data's behalf, fascinating that.
Empathy is an important human feature; it's one of the chief reasons we watch fictional video like this in the first place.
Bless you both, stay safe and be happy.
"I'll never forget you Fry" " *memory deleted* "
Can we talk about how brutal that break up was? "It's not me, it's you. I know your one singular goal is to become more human and experience emotions but you are absolutely incapable of that so I'm done with you."
Yeah man she knew from the beginning that this is how he is, would have been nice if they could have kept the relationship going a season and ended it later on
I personally think it was Datas like that was the most brutal... Chick got deleted like she was nothing lol
Jenna: "I don't matter to you, not really". Data doesn't argue that point and deletes her ass out of his life, yet he keeps a Star Wars like crystal that projects Tasha's image. Conclusion, Data was in it for the rebound. LOL.
He felt more connection to Yar's SISTER than he did to this girl and he only knew her like a day and she tried to murder him lol
@@richardtheconquerer Well his positronic brains had had more time to get used to Tasha
Data had a very strong connection with Tasha. In his own way he did love her. This woman was a fool for letting go of Data. Data Cannot lie, steal, cheat, Data often risks his very existence for his friends and always willing to help what better friend than a Data.
You mean Star Wars has Trek-like crystals. That holo of Tasha existed before SW writers even came up with the concept of storing messages in crystals.
To be fair, Jenna was the one who started the rebound, Data just went along.
"I shall delete the appropriate program."
*Data waiting for the chick to leave*
"I am not programmed with the human trait referred to as stuttering. So I fail to understand why you should remain immobile within the parameter of my private quarters."
Reading that in data’s voice is more than worth it! 😂
Dog.....your words is just like something he would say!!!! I read that in data's voice and had me 😂😃😂😃
Omg. 😄😄😄
Brent Spiner is one of the most underrated and unappreciated actors in the industry and this one scene proves it.
That says much about her, when Spot jumped into his lap and asked for affection and received it. She was the one broken emotionally and couldn't understand Data's true worth as a loving unconditional friend.
He's not loving, though. He's considerate and accommodating, but that's not the same thing.
@@fredocarroll Love isn't only just a feeling, part of it is a choice.
Data had that part down, he even goes for choices that should be irrational to him, but it's to help his friends.
@@fredocarroll Data has a number of the components going for him. That's more than a lot of people do who think or claim they're "in love".
2:51 that means “I love you”!
It’s so sad!!
wish i handled breakups like Data does
You want to be an android?
Oh good lord...
You can certainly work towards controlling your emotions rather than letting them control you.
@@Ephisus A sabbatical on Vulcan.
It's really funny how Data gets dumped, but the girl who dumps him is the one who gets pwned!
"I will delete the appropriate program." Data is the manliest alpha in the galaxy.
I really hope that no man in the world would find Data's reaction something to emulate.
@@fredocarroll I want you to think about what you wrote and then I want you to not wonder why you have no thumbs up.
@@madmanmikey Why would I care about having a thumbs-up? How sad would you have to be to go and count your thumbs-up on comments? If I called about plaudits over substance, I'd only be qualified to be POTUS.
I am someone who delete their all digital or nondigital associations
@@fredocarroll I mean, it's probably better to be like Data rather than being completely obsessed with ones ex like some people are
I sometimes wish I could just "delete the appropriate program".
spot says "dont worry i still love ya"
It seems he showed a small hint of emotion or perhaps that was just a computational error on my part.
Only that cute cat stands finally on his side. But ... just being ,giving some company & feeding is sufficient for a cat - not for humans. Specially for women x__X
Poor Data!
That girl really liked him as long as he was just being himself...
As soon as he started to write relationship-subroutines he became quite a creep because he started to imitate bad human stereotypes.
Poor girl also... wanted to be in a relationship with one nice guy and ended up making the guy trying to be bad imitations of other guys...
Very good writing that episode!
heheh android's version of "you dont dump me! I DUMP YOU!"
You get your heart broken enough times, you become like Data anyway. You learn how to just move on.
I've learned it's also easier if you accept the blame for why the relationship failed. Women hate admitting they've made mistakes.
@@hankrearden20 forget it the opposite sex gets away with too much now, keep your pride men
Cats are more loyal than humans.
Humans are fucking joke when it comes to loyalty.
Nah. I had a cat who was sneaking over to see my neighbor cat. We thought is was exclusive until we realized he was banging all the cats in the neighborhood. Cats are hoes, too.
Spot is like "Dont worry bro I still love you"
I didn't expect this to be a documentary on Mark Zuckerbergs private life.
Data should hook up with a hot Vulkan :-)
if we as humans had the ability to forget so easily
Data: Jenna, are we no longer a couple?
Jenna: No, we're not.
Data: Very well, MEMORY DELETED
Data has his own kind of feelings even if not human. Data is a very considerate being, very kind attentive, and spent much of his resources on trying to make her happy. As a man i could only dream have a woman who is like Data.
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To quote Khan, "Revenge is a dish best served cold..."
I rewatched this episode last night after several years. It's such a subtle but meaningful episode. We can't have relationships without emotion. It would have been nice to see Data in a relationship, but alas, this episode reaches the heartbreaking, harsh, but logical conclusion, that Data simply can't carry on a true romantic relationship.
Sam Mills That's a very old comment, but I wanted to answer just for fun ^^
I too think this episod to be very meaningful. If we read between the lines, it's not so much about Data but about love in general. There are important lessons to be drawn from the episod, like the fact that one should love their mate for who they are instead of trying to change them. It also tells a lot about the difference between mere attraction (like what Jenna feels) and true involvement (Data consciously chose to dedicate much memory and resources to the routine). And it teaches an important final lesson : one should be aware of the possible repeating pattern they are experiencing when choosing a wrong mate once again. Loads of interesting things here !
That being said, I don't agree on the idea that Data could never have a romantic relationship. I am pretty sure he could actually be a wonderful spouse ; but only for the right person. He'd need someone who knows a lot about cybernetics, logics and computer sciences, and who would be okay with what "dating a droid" encompasses - like the fact he can't exactly feel emotion. That makes me think a lot about the manga called Chobits, in which a man ends up dating his female persocom (for personal computers, human-like computers) despite knowing she can never love him like a human would.
Ahem, if I may. Data please go out with me?
for someone who is in love with Data, to hear him say my name gave me butterflies xD
If You like Spot The Cat, he'll like you. No bullshit.
Hay the first time a was this may be sometime in the early 1990s, the event shocked me and I felts sorry for Data. I have never forgot this...
"Shall I activate the friend-zone program now?"
I always wondered how a breakup with no emotions would've looked like.. data is da man!
Arms crossed and nothing to say. RUN!
"I love the part at the end. How he says "I will delete the appropriate program", I had to laugh, because I wish it were so easy. "
What I liked about that particular comment, so timed, was the context. "I have expended a large amount of resources in its creation." Follow that with her little, "Nothing I can say or do will make you happy or sad... or touch you in any way." Then he follows it with that? Talk about a verbal backhand.
poor data!for a being who can't experience emotions,he sure can bring them up in people ;(
Data does everything to understand her needs meanwhile she doesn't even try to do half of his effort. Poor data :')))
Spot is epic.
Cat is android's best friend:)
"Then I will delete the appropriate program" I have always admired him in this scene. Yet it's also quite sad. Especially as an Aspie.
Yes, as Aspies, we have similar experiences to Data in relationships with Neurotypical people, don't we?
@@Silversorcerer We certainly do! It can be difficult navigating relationships with it.
She didn't even try to understand my boy Data, she was just trying to distract herself from her ex and that's so unfair.
This episode was one of my favorites. surprisingly, I've watched it over last week after 2 decades, and I must suggest that this breakup clearly shows Data to be an incompetent partner to a human female, a fact I only could have comprehended by a second viewing and a lot of life experience. As a teenager I thought it would be cool to see Data fall in love with a female. This time I've understood that even in 'Picard' we don't get to see him raising a family. That's a shame, imho
I think it depends more on what you want out of a relationship than what species the partners are. Sure, it sounds a bit callous when he says he will delete the appropriate files, but from another angle, he wanted to connect with her so badly that he wrote a suite of files and programs that he thought would assist him in doing so. He did his best. He fundamentally changed himself for her--not just his home and his schedule but his very core. That wasn't enough for her. Geordi has a much better relationship with Data because Geordi appreciates Data as he is, not for what he wants Data to be.
I do think Data could have a fulfilling romantic relationship if the other person had relationship goals that were appropriately in tune with Data's nature. What I look for in someone is the ability to carry on meaningful conversations and learn stuff I didn't know before. I friendzoned someone because every time I had a conversation above a third grade reading level with her, her eyes glossed over and she stared at me like a dead fish and said she had street smarts and not book smarts. She offered to provide for me financially and travel around the world with me, but that wasn't enough to overcome the fact that she wanted to know why we couldn't dissect fetus brains so we can tell their parents if they're going to grow up to be gay or straight and how it was possible that un-contacted tribes in the Amazon had never heard of Jesus because hadn't they ever asked themselves what it was two thousand years since (yes, she did seriously ask both those questions). I think I could probably have a decently fulfilling relationship with Data because I'm pretty sure he could always have something interesting to talk about.
I agree that I would've liked to have seen Data grow more (have a family, become a captain, etc), but I blame that more on Star Trek Nemesis.
he needs to date someone smarter
I was hoping that he would have a romantic relationship since he had the emo chip.
All she had to do was wait a few more seasons and a movie...
Dating Data would be like dating Siri, it just doesn't work. Data with his emotion chip is another story.
Data teaching how to do:" No, I am breaking up with YOU." correctly.
One of the best Data episodes. I love that it really commits to the fact that he really isn't human.
I hope Data gives his gift back. Makes no sense in keeping it.
Often its men who don't express emotions outwardly who feel emotional more
If there was a reason this relationship failed, it was because she expected something she never properly asked for. Data responds well to overt suggestions and direct communication, and struggles to understand innuendo, as hard as he tries. This is made clear with every interaction you could possibly have with him. So, if that's the case, why should he have to do all the work here? He was perfectly communicative to her. He didn't lie to her, he didn't expect anything other than what he directly stated.
In the end, it was her that could not read the room, not him. The moment she started to process the way that he works, she just gave up. She didn't even try to understand him. The moment she decided that he didn't care about her, she stopped thinking about it.
I wish breakups were this clean.
"I will delete the appropriate program." ZING! Now who broke up with WHO? What's that smell? Data's ex gettin roasted! See how dopey she looked after that? See how fast he got over it?
@silverfoxeater Data ruled!
@silverfoxeater An extra serving of cringe. Odd enough responding to a comment after eight months, but eight years? Some time away from your phone may serve you well
We men envy Data for this ability. As cold as space itself
He had more emotion in his voice when he said hello to spot than when he told her he delete the program. 😂
Well observed. It has always been my view that it isn't that Data never had emotions before the emotion chip. It is more like they were latent or ambient at most but full process could not be experienced as we would until the final step taken in Generations.
That said, as posed in the episode "Measure of a Man" it is asked by the woman with the gavel, does Data have a soul? I like to think Data indeed would have a soul as he is much more than a console and like Pinnochio, was maybe granted life by something beyond the mundane who became the son to his own creator.
"Then I will delete the batshit crazy trainwreck program"
i wish i could just "delete the appropriate program", too!
lol I could not stop laughing, that was good bro.
I've always loved the Glass Menagerie reference at the end.
Why would you ever break up with someone who is fully functional in every way, someone who is programmed in multiple techniques; a broad variety of pleasuring? Biggest leap of faith I ever had to take watching TNG.
Crazy ass lady finally realozed she's bonkers for trying to woo an android. Now she can go AWALL on a replicated Laforge.
holy fuck.
that guy said "as you wish".
I get so teary eyed at the end. I know the feeling Data even though you aren’t able to.
Really wonderful scene. Very well acted.
" why don't any of my usual emprional manipulation tricks work???"
"There does appear to be a recurring motif."
Data: "Severance complete. Would you like to establish any protocols regarding mutual acquaintances?"
I can't decide if I want to be more like Data
or less like him
It's like breaking up with your vibrator. Sad.
This scene always makes me cry.
Ouch!
"Jenna, are we no longer a couple?"
Data forces her to mentally own up to her words, breaking the chances of her ignoring the realization with the next unemotional person she meets.
"Then I will delete the appropriate program."
There's no longer any turning back for Jenna.
In that simple question and retort, Data had just taken Jenna from the "it would be less painful if I break up with him" position to shatter the veil of ideals and expose the lack of foundation.
She deserves to have the appropriate program deleted. Her loss.
moral of the story- don't change yourself for anybody.
I don't know why I was thinking of the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" theme while the credits started playing
damn...
i woulda eaten that dinner that he cooked up
Now she's Clark Kent's mom on Superman and Lois.
The Chad Data.
Great episode, and also the first episode directed by Patrick Stewart.
I wonder if Data tried his multiple techniques on her.
Well, Spot jumped on Data's lap, so does that mean Data was hurt ? You know, cats can feel emotions a lot more than human. When I was young, I had a cat that would always jump on my lap when I was feeling sad.
This episode reminds me of every relationship I’ve ever been in.
Ah, back before ghosting was a thing.
I wonder...what if Data kept that program
Yep, that just about sums it up!