Eflite - Pitts S-1S - 850mm - Unbox, Build, Radio Setup, & Flights
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Whenever Brian Phillips publishes a video which features a plane which we already have, we watch it with eagle eyes! We know that we are not the only ones... We always learn so much much more about our planes, all the details we were not aware about, we might adjust the settings, the CG of the battery etc. etc. Brian, you are our RC godfather! Thank you for your detailed videos (build, set-up, flight and advice)!!! And yes, we love our Pitts S-1S very much, another cool E-flite plane! Cheers from Switzerland!
Thanks so much!
This plane is my daily flyer. Two years after starting the hobby I'm now on 850mm Pitts number four. It's been an interesting journey and I've learned a lot about the repair and replacement end of the hobby and the often ridiculous amount of time involved with such endeavors. My short take on this model is that it likes to be flown aggressively. Inspect the model prior to that aggressive flight so there are no sudden surprises. The servos and landing gear both benefit from upgrades. Replace the clevis(s). Softer tires? Yes! As a beginner the plane is always fun to try to fly and will even leave a nice red splotch on the pavement if you hit it hard enough.
If you think it's hard fixing planes, get into Helis - You'll cringe at the first crash ;)
Does this make for a good first plane?
I have the same Pitts. It flies really well and is an excellent aerobatic plane, but also for a relaxed flight around :)
Indeed it is!
I maidened my Pitts 850 last night, finally, thanks to these northern Illinois winds taking a brief rest! You are so right on dialing in some expo. I thought 15% would do it but this plane is way responsive. Next time out I will probably end up at 70% with 40% expo for low rates and high rates will probably increase expo to 40% but leave rudder at 0% expo. I fly almoset exclusively from grass and this plane does great with virtually no nose-over that prevents me from enjoying my warbirds. This Pitts is a rocket even on 3S. Tame flying on a 2200 yields 4 minutes flight time. Im going to drop a 3S 2700 in it and should get 6 to 7 minutes. The CG will benefit as well. And just as you said, the batt needs to hang off the back of the tray. The plane has a wide CG range and is virtually the same with and without a batt installed so a heavier batt would be fine as long as you compensate on landing approach with a little hotter throttle and a tad more angle of attack to control rate of decent. For size and durability, this is a great plane with a very good finish. For added "pop" I gave it a few coats of Pledge floor finish. Looking at a few more days of high winds and hopefully will get the red bugger to the strip on Sunday. Thanks for the review. It helped seal the deal for me. By the way, Im not tempted to do flaperons on this plane. Just wouldnt be right, kind of like putting pineapple on a pizza LOL. Happy landings!
Awesome - definitely no pineapple on this pizza!!!!! LOL ;) Good call!
No apologies. I learned more here and now than you can imagine. The radio set-up was invaluable. You are the best!
Thank you Tim!!!
I maidened it today with 8-10 mph gusts and she flies AMAZING! What a blast this plane is! It flies so good does everything I can do with it and more and just looks SO good in the sky! Thrilled with it! I practiced a ton in realflight take offs and landings were so easy with it! Thanks for all your video's Brian so HELPFUL! (Oh and I crashed the F15 Jet today, was flying it SO GOOD wide open got it way too far out and in front of an 8am sun and completely blinded I lost orientation and she dropped like a rock. Fortunately the only thing that got damaged was the fuselage! Wings, servos, gear, canopy all perfect, had an extra nose cone I had ordered. The new Fuselage was $42.00 so I already ordered it, it's worth it.
AWESOME! Glad you had good luck with the Pitts! Sorry to hear the F-15 got lost in the sun. IF you have this happen again, try to close ONE eye, and sometimes you can open it back up when you get past the sun...might help to avoid the next incident.
Glad you're getting in some good flights!!!
Been a Fan since Yalls " Apartment" days. I feel as if Im at a Flying buddies house , tweaking to Maiden, with these lengthy videos.
Tks for yalls time.
I had the smaller E-Flite Pitts and they are not the easiest to land. Even if you do land then smooth the landing gear isn’t enough to keep you straight. If you buy this one look for a wider area to land if you’re a noob like me. Great flying as always…easily my fav RC channel
Thanks ;) The new UMX Pitts is easier to fly - LOL
Hey Brian. I'm new to flying, just this past year. Discovered your video channel on UA-cam. Been watching your reviews and setup videos. THANK YOU! You're awesome! I've learned so much about my planes and configuring my transmitter (DX8E). Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. And thanks to your "camera crew", great work! :-)
You're welcome Charlie D! We're so glad you found the channel, and very glad you're getting your feet wet! So much to learn, and so much of it, there manufacturers assume we all know...well, we don't - LOL :) - so we're here to help, and so glad you're here with us now.
@@BrianPhillipsRC FYI, when I built my Pitts, the aileron rod also didn't fit the top hole. But I flipped it & it fit perfectly. So I'm thinking the rod is installed with the clip on the bottom. Just sharing :-) 🛩
Another amazing video from you and the camera crew. I want this plane next, I have the umx version which was my first plane. This thing looks awesome in the air and I can't wait to get one. Thanks for always having the info I need and in this case just when I needed it lol
Thanks Kevin! Great plane, this one is, but if you want an even more intense experience, the FMS 1400mm is awesome too!
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Thank you Brent!!!
I just picked this one up and built today going to madien tomorrow morning with the flapperon set up thanks to you get tutorial 👍
Good luck! She's a handfull!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I've flown it a good 8 times now. I used a 4S 2200mah 50c and a three blade prop solid flyer nice speed love the flapperons
E-Flight does it right! The 850mm Pitts can be flown from your hand without the undercarriage. This opens up all those set aside fields, but remember to use a flexible nylon prop.
Hand launch and catch!
As always from you both, wonderful video presentation team. Such passion for the hobby.
Enjoy that summer. Storms here in OZ. Had the chance to build & fly my new FMS T-28 800mm in a weather gap yesterday. Flew beautifully Brian.
Nice! I bet that's a fun plane. Maybe I NEED it too??? ;)
Great to see you finally got one. On grass this plane take off and lands great without bouncing bad or being squirrely. Cool you did like flaperons on this plane but in my experience it slows down enough to do nice landings. I think it's almost to easy to fly. I did replace the tires to softer rubber tires and landings are even better.
I did consider to put in an AR637T and Avian 45A ESC but It doesn't open up in an easy way to pull out the motor and ESC.
Totally agree about flapperons. It was not needed, and kinda clunky BUT with a virgin Rx, it would have been good ;)
As for the Avian, that would be cool, but I love this plane as it. The telemetry would be nice, and this thing would probably fly backward ;)
Fantastic Plane...nice flying bro. Gooooood camera work!
Thanks, and agreed! Megan is very good at the camera work!!!
Wish I'd found your vid before I put this plane together & maidened. I did not do flaperons, but after the first two landings today with the 4S battery installed, I'm thinking about it...or dropping to 3S. Or both. I had to fly the spuds off of this for 4S; it feels like there's just too much weight for the lift. It'd be nice to be able to calm it down for landing and a more scale performance envelope. I triple checked CG, but it flew nose heavy. Anyway, I had all the same issues during assembly - Yeah, instruction manual was weak. I took the same decisions you made, except for leaving off the top wing. I wish I'd thought of that. I have big hands, and getting that bind plug in was a bit of a challenge. Didn't know I could just push a button! Thanks!
We're glad you found the video helpful! So many details are really glossed over in the manuals, and we try to share all the steps, when possible. The flapperons, in my opinion were NOT super helpful, but If you like the idea of having them, I don't think I gave up a lot to have them...so fair trade off...but also, as for control-ability...if you make her a BIT more tail heavy, she'll get pitch sensitive in a hurry. If you want her to "glide" out of throttle, better get/keep her more on the NOSE heavy side of things.
Good luck!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the reply, Brian! I flew her on 3S a couple of days ago and results were much more to my liking. Still was a workout given my skill level, but I'll get there! I did move the CG back, but it was still just a bit nose heavy. Based on your feedback, I'm glad I didn't push it too far back. Looking forward to watching through all your videos, and to the ones yet to come...
Love biplanes and this one is very cool Nice flying Brian Great job Camera Crew as always 🔥👍✌️
thanks!
Brian - just putting my 850mm together this evening and ran into the same problem on the top/bottom aileron linkage - I too - was about to drill out the top connector. It looks like you've installed the clevis and z-bend for the Aileron linkage upside down (see manual page 7). The Z-bend goes into the top connector and the snap clevis is shown on the bottom. :)
That FedEx truck definitely delivered the 90mm Viper.
No, it didn't, but he did deliver about 10 boxes ;) I wanted that so badly, but they got stuck in China - Thanks DHL ;(
That's a fun little guy, thank you both.
It sure is!
Really digging your channel. I fly DJI Air2S drone and FPV quad copters 5” . My roots go back in the 70s and 80 flying Stick build nitro planes. These electric foams are nuts especially with these Ax3S safe mode and smart packs . Technology has come a long way. Think I might have to have one of these after I get my Turbo Timber 1.5 M. NX8 will be my new radio too. If you ever run out of room for all your planes I’ll store a few for ya. Lol. Stay cool , keep up the great reviews
Dude you have an awesome personality. I’m relatively new to the hobby so just recently stumbled across your channel. I love rc planes but I feel like you could do a review on a disposable plastic spoon and it would be great 😂
Awesome thank you! Glad you're here with us! We love doing this, and LOVE RC, and LOVE Aviation, so there's so much MORE where that came from ;)
I watch all your videos on the side, it's very varied next to the home office (thanks to corona). I can learn English very well there alongside working on the PC. I hope it doesn't annoy you my comments under different videos 😁
Nice! Glad you're enjoying the footage. Am I understanding your correct that you're trying to learn English watching?
I put an avian 60 amp esc in this so I would have pack voltage and I works great on 3S but when I put a 4s pack in it the temperature just kept rising, even just cruising around and not pushing it. Makes me wonder how the stock 45 amp esc holds up to 4s. It’s fun on 3s but it really comes alive on 4s, it spins ridiculously fast. I melted a vent hole in the front at the bottom where the vent is molded in the body. Hopefully that gets the airflow over the esc to cool it. Awesome plane though, I really enjoy the way it flies. Keep up the great videos, I watch them all!
WOW! Sounds like a nice fire starter - seems appropriate for 4th of July ;) Home-made fireworks!!! LOL - Good luck Matt
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I think you misread that. I melted the hole myself with a small shim heated with a torch so that the esc could breath. Lol
I’m just wondering why the esc get so hot on 4s when it is rated for 4s. I feel like the Avian 60 may be problematic and need larger heat sink fins. Maybe I’ll just go back to the stock esc and just stick to the timer but man do I hate the EC3 connectors. We’ve really gotten spoiled with the SMART technology from Horizon and Spektrum. Cheers and happy 4th to you and the family!
Gday Brian how are you? Totally unrelated comment however I do love the pitts.. But I just wanted to thank u once again. I've been flying everyday, I'm very impressed with myself. I've come leaps and bounds. Yeah I'm doing stuff I don't think I should be able to yet. Inverted, rolls, loops... But they way I know something is progressing is because I out of safe more and more often. I'm pretty sure the mode I'm flying in has no assistance from the vtol side of my plane if that makes sense. It just helps with landing cause I live on the side of a hill. Thanks for your influence thanks heaps...
COOL! Good for you Stewart! It's cool when you can start to see the improvements. It's not an overnight thing for most...for me, it took about 3-4 years to get "comfortable" and even with that, now at 6 years in, I still get NERVOUS with an important, or FAST landing plane... so much to keep in control very quick, with very little room for error.
Keep at it, and soon you'll be flying anything you want!!!
Awesome video! I’ve really been enjoying your stuff since I discovered and subbed last week. I wish Horizon would make more stuff in this size class. Like a super UMX category allowing for flaps, retracts etc.
I agree! This size is great, better for storage and transport, but it is a bit harder to get them to fly as good as a 1.2m or 1.3m...but then they're more powerful, and more expensive...
I'm with you - Love this size, but I too want flaps and retracts and LED's on pretty much ALL planes.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Right on, call me weird but the idea of flying a P51 or a Citation with the gear down, well, it offends my sensibilities 🧐
What a beautiful plane and the size is great, not too big. I think Ive found my dream machine only I can afford this one so Im definitely gonna buy this one. Maybe it spins too fast and run full time in Safe. Once delivered I can go back to the Draco for my dream machine
Cool! I love the 1.4m Pitts too, that we did a while back...this one is great without flapperons, fyi - not necessary.
Hi Brian ! I have never tried this kind of plane ! maybe one day . he really looks good ! 👌💙
It is very nice!
I saw one of these for sale at a Fun Fly last summer. At $175 it seemed expensive, but this plane certainly seems worth it! I didn't roll the dice, opting instead to pick up a much cheaper warbird and an upgraded Flite Test Sportster.
Hope you had a great vacation brother
It was nice, but very busy!!!
U r a big daddy in aviation no-one can beat u love uuu
Thanks!!!
Another beauty and masterful flying...and camera work!! ;) Keep up the great vids!! Also, have you ever tried the thin foam shelf liner material on your battery trays. (Smart Design Shelf Liner is available on Amazon and comes in many colors) No velcro required on the pack and it really holds on to the battery wrap, so less likely to slip out from the grip of the straps. :)
I have, and yet I always forget to use it - LOL!!! Works like a charm
Brian, Marked the CG 86 +/- 3mm like the manual said, with a 3S 2200 I have to hang the battery back more than half way on the tray! Secured it with velcro and a strap but dang, wondering if adding weight to the back end and moving the battery forward to have it more on the tray is a better solution. (wish the tray was LONGER!) Tried checking CG with a 4S and it's not much different. The ESC doesn't sit up there very well either, it's too long to sit straight and is kitty corner in the nose and the double sided tape doesn't hold well at all up there (Not a huge deal). Pulling the battery connector off the battery easily knocks that tape loose leaving the esc unsecured... For the slots the tray goes into take your black sharpie and make two little lines where the tray goes into the slots to make it easier to see.
Yep. CG was a bit tough on this little booger! Sounds like you found your answers ;)
The new CG is listed as 70+/- 3mm.
P.S. Thank you for sharing it!
Wow that looked like a lot of fun
It was!
Those wing strut pins, mine are in but I worry about them backing out, I'm tempted to wrap some light fishing like around them and the strut or something, could put a dot of CA on them where they go into the hole...
Sure could! Paint also works well, if you don't want to fight the CA. I do CA myself when I'm concerned.
Always Awesome. Thanks for a great review of a great plane ! Love it man !
Thanks again!
Ah Brian not again!! That’s YET ANOTHER plane I’ve had to go out and buy after you’ve convinced me it’s worth a go ha ha 🙈
Bad Man ha ha
LOL - Nice ;) Thanks Adam!
I have watched this video over and over again and have been wanting to add a bi-wing plane to my fleet. Would the pitts be a good first bi-plane to get?
Sure! The bigger FMS 1.4m that we did is pretty sweet too!
My wife has that plane and loves it so much
It is pretty sweet! The 1400mm FMS flies very similarly.
Love the channel. Hope u can help. I’ve just bought this plane, have an NX6. Setting up Flapparons. Following your guidance etc. But they are not moving in same direction (moving like ailerons). Assume I can’t reverse one and not the other as think it’s a Y connector. Receiver is AR631. Do I have to use 2 channels for the ailerons etc (does the 631 do this) then program all again?
Keep up the Banter !!!
You have them hooked up through a "Y" Cable...
Change this and you can keep trying ;) IF NOT, then you'll have to go in an revers ONE of the two Ailerons....then if you get the "Wrong One" you can just flip it back, and do the other one.
Keep trying...it's a bit of guess and check.
Hi, I wanted to add a comment because I have been dutifully waiting for this plane to be delivered for 8 MONTHS now. It was on backorder when I purchased it in Nov '22, then it changed to "discontinued" a few months ago. Horizon support assured me it is still available and will be delivered, yet since that time, they keep moving the delivery date back each month. They've definitely got my money...no Pitts here. Wondering if anyone else has had this experience?
Already a dislike!?!? People are crazy. Love the vids
Haters gonna hate. Must be a jealous h8r! 😂
@@old-rcplane-phart motion Rc and banana hobby maybe?
I'm used to it. There's plenty of people who will give a Thumbs down for almost nothing. I wish they were smart enough to just move on to the next video, but they're so shallow, they must go out of their way to make a thumbs down.
I think I've thumbed down maybe 10 videos in my entire time on UA-cam, and they were just plain offensive...
@@BrianPhillipsRC thumbs down counts also, worst-case is no thumbs
People are simply stupid. Brian has always tons of usefull information in EVERY video! You don't like that? Why are you here?? Thank you Brian, for doing that for us! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
We all know you just want to talk about the new 90mm Viper WITH REVERSE THRUST!
Rumor has it they're still on the boat from China, coming soon.
@@mostlymissiles yeah, it blew my mind that the Petrincic Bros had one before anyone
John - no rumor, they're on a plane, and then shipped and damaged by DHL - Thanks DHL!
Ours are ALL delayed. Petrincic Bros got theirs due to different shipping channels, then they didn't get word in time to hold off on publishing, so they released "early" but they didn't know at the time. Not their fault, and they are very cool guys too...
Hi Brian,where can I get a set of screwdrivers to build these planes? If you have part numbers,that would help.
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These are amazing!
I'm flying with a carbon cub and a timber evolution 1,5 always without stabilization. do you think I can move to pitts or is it better to have more flight hours as training? i also have the real flight simulator and i use it quite regularly
Sure, but just to be clear, AS3X is stabilization, while SAFE is "auto-leveling" unless you're flying a PNP and you put in your own receiver.
You'll be fine either way! Good luck!
Oh Brian, I did YOUR clevis pin modification on my fms pitts today. Amazing the massive change it made! ZERO play on my ailerons! GOTTA do the tail next! I wasn't happy with FMS's lack of quality on the aileron clevises. Your mod eliminated ALL play completely! 👍
I'm so glad I subbed to ur channel way back in December! You've been a huge help to me! 👋👋👋
Nice work! Glad it helped!!! I don't even recall what I shared, but this is one of these little morsels, that I learned from others, and passed along to you ;) Now you can teach someone the same trick when you help them out!!!
We're so glad you're here with us too!
What is thus clevis pin modification you talk of?
Hey Brian. Happy father's day to you! Couple questions!
1. Is this Pitts a newer version?
2. I have a new NX8, after updating the firmware to 3.04. I still can't get the wifi screen to work. It's gets stuck in the thumb twiddling screen. Did I missed something or I have a lemon NX8?
Thanks
Mine did the same thing but after a couple times it worked
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For sure! Got the plaque in the box right behind me ;)
Brian - would you recommend replacing the 40A Factory Brushless ESC (EFL1140W) with a Avian 45A ESC? Just wonder if having the telemetry would be a good idea? Wonder if increasing the Amps from 40 to 45 would be an issue? Thanks Brian & Camera Crew. :).
No, 40Amp to 45Amp won't be an issue since you're load isn't changing...you can go BIGGER, but not smaller....BUT I wouldn't on this plane. I would save the ESC mod for a plane like the 2M Beaver, where reverse thrust might be a bit more handy...but to all their own...the SMART data would be nice on this plane, but it flies for-ever as it is ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC No sense is spending more. Thanks for the recommendation/clarification
Subject: Pitts S-1S 850mm CG
Robert,
The new CG is listed as 70+/- 3mm.
A few other small manual issues that we are in process of correcting:
The plane has the following
BL15 motor 880Kv EFL8463
40 amp ESC EFLA1140W
SPM A330 Servos SPMSA330
Prop is 11x7 EFLP11070
The prop/spinner assembly in the manual does not show the correct prop adapter design nor the included washer. That washer goes between the spinner cone and the prop hub for the correct spacing.
The landing gear mounting screws are listed in the manual as qty3 2x10mm self-tapping screws.
They are actually qty3 3x15mm countersunk machine screws.
Kind Regards,
Alisha G.
Product Support // L3 Technical Advisor
LOL - Looks like they kinda missed the mark on this manual - LOL ;)
Glad you got the right info and shared it though, thanks Rob!
I just bought one and it still says 86mm in the manual. Damn you'd think they'd update the CG in the manual or add a flyover showing the new 70mm. That's a big difference. Thanks for sharing
What one would you buy,the umx or the 850 Pitts?
Just stumbled across this plane in a trade cause I thought it looked cool. Wow! What a keeper!!! Small and easy to transport in any vehicle all in one piece. As always guess who has just the video I need to know everything about it before I fly…. Thx Brian n Crew.👌
Anyone try a battery larger than
2200 4s or larger than 2200 3s?
I think the 2200 is pretty big for this plane. She already lands pretty hard with 2200...I suspect you might run into issues with bending landing gear if you go heavier....but just my thoughts, I'm sure you could get away with it, and a better pilot could just "fly it to the ground" better than me.
Hi, I have seen that you have set the flaps. If I run the flap menu as you have the problem that one aileron goes up and the other down. I have the whole set up on my Spektrum DX6 G3. I have taken flaperon and also as described in the manual with 1 aileron / 1 flap. Always have the same problem at pos 1 and pos 2 . Can you help me how I can set it that both ailerons go down when I set the flaps to pos1 and pos 2. Greetings from Germany
1) Did you separate the connections to the "Y" Cable going to the ailerons?
2) If you have it all right, the Ailerons will both go the same direction, and the flaps will make them go opposite...if so, reverse one of the ailerons channels, and you'll be fixed...then go back into Forward programming and make sure your AS3X and SAFE are correction the right direction.
Good luck!
Another nice video Sir. Question, & you’ve probably answered this before but I have to ask. What kind of camera is the “Camera Crew” using?
Galaxy S9 cell phone
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I was gonna come to this channel to ask you to do a review on this plane and boom! way ahead of me. I agree, I think a 4S2200 was a lot of battery for this plane but I'll have to give mine a try with the 3S2200. Also need to give the flaperon settings a try
Don't try it. I think it was a NET loss of fly-ability. Fun for practice, but it didn't really help. I'm kind of a flap junkie - I need an intervention - LOL ;)
3S is PLENTY, but you know how us RC Guys are... if they said NO 4S, we'd be trying 5S - LOL!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC lol I’ll go edit the flaps out of it then
And yes! Always want more power and longer flight times
Brian, enjoyed watching your videos . have a few questions. I will be buying the carbon cub 1.2 and would like to know how long will it take to charge the 2200ma 3s batteries with the included usb charger? how would that compare to using the s1100 -100w hobby grade one? Also do you know how long this battery will stay fully charged before it starts to discharge for storage? (factory default settings ) thanks
About an hour is a safe estimate, but you will charge less if the battery is not fully discharged.
If and when you get into your second and third planes, you will want to get better chargers ;) The cell count will force you into nicer chargers, eventually, but I want to encourage you...it's like this...
New Plane = Fun
Batteries = Not Fun, but you need it!
Charger = Not Fun, but you need it!
Transmitter = Not Fun, but you need it!
You can get the batteries, chargers, and transmitters (good ones) for about price of 2-5 planes, so when you're new, try to keep plane choices to what batteries you have, and make sure you LOVE it enough to justify that relatively large expense, but here's what I suggest. When you DO get a GOOD ONE, get a GOOD ONE, don't get a crappy one that's gonna cause the whole experience to suck. I've played that game, and it's a HUGE PIA...you won't probably believe me until you do it yourself, but I can give you cheap advice that's very valuable to your bottom line. When you're ready to get a good charger, get a good one, and when you're ready for a new plane, get a good battery. It's better to have TWO good batteries than SIX crappy ones. Six is harder to keep up with (it takes time to get six ready) and I can promise you, you will have a better experience with TWO good lipos for the same price as SIX crappy, but cheap ones. You will be in the air probably about the same time, but the TWO good ones will be easier to transport, and easier to charge, and they will last more cycles and longer in storage.
Hope this advice is helpful to you, but I know that everyone's situation is different.
Happy flying!
Which plane can fly slower this one or the umx?
The UMX probably flies a bit slower.
A vacation of recording and editing, OH BOY! 😂 And by the way Megan is not one of the best, she is THE best I have seen on the Tube.
Thanks Jack! The vacation also included filming a great deal of haying our property - that's SURE to be a hit here on the channel - LOL ;) Oh well, that's why it's called "BrianPhillipsFarming" - oh wait.... RC... I knew it was in there somewhere - LOL
Hope you'll point and laugh when they come out. The process is very satisfying, but also a lot of work...about 4 days it took, but it wasn't 100% of each day though, and the new bigger tractor made it so much easier, but still a lot of work.
Thanks for the kind words about Megan. She is very good, and I'm super lucky to have her on my team ;)
The ol' reverse mullet.
if you say so
Hey Brian, Where's The New 90mm Viper? The Slovac P-Bros Done The Unbox Last Night? LOL
Robert could hardly contain himself lol
They got theirs early since the DHL air shipment got all screwed up, which was bound for Horizon Hobby, IL USA...therefore we, stateside, didn't get ours ,but they did in Slovakia, and somehow the message didn't get to them that we weren't supposed to release footage.
Jet Jam forced the timeline, but we just kinda got screwed by DHL.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Ohhh-Yeahhh! 🤣
"Let's do grass it seems to work so much better," proceeds to cartwheel it.
LOL
What’s the max amount of mah you can fly this plane on? I know the website says 300. I’ve got a 1300mah 3s that I would want to use.
1300mah 3S would be fine. Just get your CG right and you could easily fly her on 2200mAh, but might not be as good....wing loading will get pretty high as you progress to heavier and heavier packs.
True men dont need instructions, we know everything automajically😊 Ive come very close to pulling the trigger on either the pitts or christian eagle. Do you like this plane more then your extra or 540?
LOL - Exactly!!! That's why I have a wife...for reading of directions - LOL
As for liking it better than the Extra...NO...but I like the 1.4m FMS MORE than the Extra and Edge 540...
So to clarify, 850mm Eflite Pitts - I like it very well, but it's not on my top 10...
The 1.4m FMS Pitts is AMAZING ;)
Extra 300 & Edge 540 - Both Great planes, but not my normal "thing"...
Hope this makes sense, but a lot of my personal preference here speaking...not anything "wrong" with any of these planes... they're all GREAT, but they're also not ALL my first pick due to preference only... BUT I was unexpectedly into the 1.4m Pitts - What a joy to fly!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I understand the preference thing. I started with nitro warbirds about 15 years ago just because i liked the look of a stang in a dive. After years of flying cheap craigslist nitro planes,my favorite performer was uproar 40 with a .46 evo nitro motor. That thing would snap so hard and hover so easy. Unfortunately a gust of wind hit it while i was flying inverted in a full speed pass about 5ft off of the ground. Complete decinagration.
I bought a couple of planes through your video’s. I totally want this one ☝️. If you do a review of one of my favorite planes. I will buy more through your links. I almost was going to send you my arrows Husky special edition I’m half tempted. But I can’t stop flying it ahhh 😩
Thank you so much for your support! The Husky looks great! Seems a middle step between the 1.3m Carbon Cub S2 and the 2.1m Carbon Z Cub
@@BrianPhillipsRC It’s something special. The performance is off the hook for the price. I don’t believe in safe you can’t sell me on that. In fact that is one of the options I don’t use it causes more crashes then anything else. The only way to learn is to fly you give people crutches no one will ever learn you need throws you need to roll you need to get out of trouble.. I love spectrum radios in fact I have a lot of spectrum transmitter‘s. But I don’t spend money on their receivers. I don’t need safe and some of the receivers are not as reliable as other cheaper clones. Remember everything‘s made in China anyways. You got to think smart to save a dollar. And a lot of us don’t have money is not coming out our ears. So we have to find products that perform well and are the most bang for the buck..
Hey brother will 3200 mah 4s work in this plane it says up to 3000mah but there are no 3000 mah 4s. I can't afford two new batteries for every plane I buy and I feel like if 3200 mah 4s batteries are common types for a lot of planes just looking to use the same batteries for each plane I get.
That's a HUGE pack for this plane, but I suspect you could cram it in there... Issue you'll have is the CG.
What's the worst that happens...nose heavy, and have to put down in tall grass??? Give her a try, and fly on 3S 2200mAh if you can't make her work. Surely you've got a 2200 ;)
Brian gets a new plane every week
A few more some weeks ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC and the basement was close to full, you need a 40x60 playroom
That looks smaller then I thought I need a biplane. Pitts? Or the eflite umm for get the name of it. Ultima 3D? White and red one lol which is your pick?
I like this one plenty, but prefer the 1.4m FMS since it's a bit more tame, and yet STILL quite crazy.
Pitts 1.4m bit.ly/36e9ZLo
AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c
@@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah I like the FMS one tou did. Didn’t realize this was a umx at first. Witch was sweeet. So that receiver you sent me the link do you have to program that? Is it hard? Would like to had that to my OMP big horn plane as well.
try it as low wing monoplane version some day !! and compare flight characteristics
That would be cool, but it would need to fly FAAAAAST, I bet!
12:45 I look at those batteries and my wallet starts to pucker
LOL!
@@BrianPhillipsRC the wall of batteries
Hello, I need help, I become to Christmas this plane as BNF with AR636A, but after conect the second Aileron to channel 6, the As3x and Safe not working on one side of Aileron. The forward programming not possible, error. Please help me, any solution with video? thx.
Follow my setup EXACTLY. That's why we go through the process.
I would NOT do flapperons on this plane. It's not necessary. I was incorrect in doing it on mine, but you can copy the process and get the same results, if you wish, or just leave it with ailerons and have good outcome.
P.S. It's normal that the AS3X won't work on one of the ailerons if you take a BNF and make flapperons without a full factory reset on the Rx.
Ok, the questions EVERYONE is dying to be answered: If you could only have one, would you opt for the bigger FMS or this smaller Pitts? My gut tells me to get the FMS (although this is pretty cool).
As always, thanks much for sharing.
Steve
Bigger - Yes.
what happened to part 2? with flaperons?
We did the flapperons on this.
@@BrianPhillipsRC In the video that I saw he ran out of time at the end of the video and we're not able to actually test the flaprons in use I looked for a second video and I could not find it could you point me to it were you flew it with the flapperons?
Remember to helmed The camera crew.
Exactly - LOL!!!
How did you put flaps on that?
Flapperons, we did it.
I love biwing planes
They are something pretty special!
If you would have consulted the instructions you would have noticed the clevice went on the bottom aileron. Resulting in no need to drill out the holes.
Stupid question. The + expo is less or more sensitive?
On a Spektrum Tx adding positive expo makes it increasingly less sensitive (in short).
The only stupid question is one not asked, hope you don't mind my chiming in btw lol.
Depends on Brand - Spektrum is like this...
The + Calls out MORE EXPO, which means the center of the sticks will become more and more DEAD with a higher expo....while Futaba is opposite, if I understand correctly.
Here's a tip. TEST my comment to learn this for yourself. It'll be a simple exercise you can do in 3 minutes...
1) Power up the radio and a plane of your choosing and throttle cut, so you can do it inside...
2) Position the plane with the tail TOWARD you so you can see the elevator and rudder clearly.
3) Jump into expo, and set the expo to 90% on the elevator.
4) Move the elevator back and forth through the WHOLE range of the stick throw.
5) Now change 90% to 45% (half the first)...
6) Move the elevator back and forth through the WHOLE range of the stick throw.
7) Now change 45% to 20% (half the second)...
8) Move the elevator back and forth through the WHOLE range of the stick throw.
9) Now change 90% to 45% (half the first)...
10) Now see how that CHART corresponds to the output of the control surface ;)
You learned a new trick today!!!
That a 😅 close call, almost hit the lovely camera crew on takeoff 🛫.
This is what close footage looks like ;)
Has anyone tried hand launching this? The grass I fly over isn't that short for an ideal runway take off.
You would have ZERO problems with hand launch, and if you can tolerate a nose overs, tall grass would be no problemo for landings.
The power to weight ratio is so good, you could just hammer-head it right out of your grip.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks Brian. Just about to fix my top wing onto this bird. Really enjoying the build and using your video as my guide. I fitted the prop like you did but I have similar feelings woundering if it will eventually spin loose as there's no mechanical grip on the smooth prop face against the rough face of the spinner or any use of that hexagon cut out inside the prop. Did you ever have any problems with that prop? Any mods I can make?
So I bought the Carbon cub s2 RTF that came with the dxs transmitter. I am addicted so I bought the Pitts 850 and have no control over the ailerons. I am EXTREMELY new to the hobby. Can anyone help me with this?
Why? DXs should control the Ailerons....do you have ONE of the two cables FLIPPED? I've done it, and they just sit there and look at you while you move the stick ;)
Check it ASAP ;)
I mean, the servo plug might be forced in backward into the "Y" Cable.
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes I'm an idiot lol buuuut now it seems like the ailerons and elevator don't move as much as they should. They seem tight. Any suggestions? Or maybe they don't move as much as I think they should. Im not sure because when I have the safe on and I hold the plane and roll it the flaps adjust more than when I use the transmitter. After watching your video your ailerons move alot more than mine
Bought an AVIAN ESC to add telemetry to my Pitts 850. The factory fitted AR631 should be able to do this.
After installing the AVIAN ESC 45 AMP, the servos start to twitch/jitter. It is independent of how many or which servos are plugged in. The engine runs, the servos can also be controlled, but twitch/jitter. Once you have commanded full deflection on all servos, it stops briefly, but then starts again with control commands. Does anybody has an idea what the problem is?
Try configuring the POWER for the BEC. If that doesn't work, you need to get with Spektrum on this issue. Don't loose your plane over it!!!
I wonder if you're not running the BEC high enough.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the help. Tried to program the ESC using the sticks and I can get into the menu, but programming is not possible, and the menu has 16 instead of the expected 13 menu items. I'm now reporting to Spectrum...
After getting a second ESC showing the same problem, I figured out the issue.
If an Avian Smart ESC is connected to an AR631 (Pitts 850 BNF), the frame rates change from 22 to 11ms (but the Pitts have analog servos installed!)! No idea why this is, but this is causing the servos to twitch. Attention, the servos can be damaged! I had to replace one because it burned out. With the E-Flite (not Smart) ESC the problem does not exist.
To solve the problem you have to get the programming adapter for the receiver and unlock it with an update. After that you can change the frame rates via forward programming and the problem is solved.
P.S.: The manual of the Avian ESC does not match the actual menu in the controller. There are actually 16 menu items! But at least you can now configure the ESC via the transmitter.
Carbon cup Z is a much better plane than The Drago. It can do a lot of 3D flying. But yes, it’s huge to store.
Nice review.
You're talking about the Carbon Z Cub 2.1m? I think it's a great flying plane too!
cool!
thanks! Sure is!
Something tells me that the Fed-Ex delivery contains a 90mm viper 👀
Nope, not yet - DHL screwed that up...
this vs ultimate 3d?
1.4m Pitts - bit.ly/3Eja5kp (sorry, I cheated - LOL)
Flaps are a waste of time on these light, large wing area planes, try spoilerons ie reverse flaps (ailerons going up) makes the landing and slow flight way way more stable. I was surprised how good they land, just the perfect descent flight.
I believe you're right.
Cool flaps, tho not needed. Even in 3 point landing Shes Hot Actually Cut Grass landings are easier than asphalt, she will Wiggle on take off an landing its so compact.
. Great Page here 5 star, . Guy shows sooooo many details an even Crash a burns. ie: ZOHD Alpha video For Example. Ive crashed 2 Zohd alphas whew,,,, lol
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Thanks!
I really dont like the non hexted motor shafts like the fms ones we use to get instead if we get the lame textured ones , to many plastic parts also, will do a removable elevator and install Dave Brown wheels , stock ones are way to hard
TRUE, and TRUE!
Where is the CG?
If you need to see, there's a link in the video description (like if you were going to buy it...) click that, then scroll down to the manual and you can see it. We almost always cover this at the very end of a build, but once in a blue moon, we will miss it, and I apologize if we did here...in those cases, there's either no way to really adjust it with the battery location, and then our MAIDEN FLIGHT video would help you see what you want to see, if you prefer NOT to follow that link, and check the manual.
bprc.me/Pitts
I'm just a dumb rich country boy, what is "corn hole action"?
Left Stick up and left, then Right stick up and right then left, etc...
I ain't sayin' nuthin...
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thanks? LOL
must be a viper delivery....lol....jk
Wish...stuck in China still - THANKS DHL!
Will you two adopt me? I'm 58 and fully house broke!
LOL
Strafe the Fedex truck Maybe ought to hand launch.
LOL
2 hours. Really?
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Just won this Pitts 850mm in our club raffle. I am getting back into flying after an 8 year hiatis. I am flying a umx Timber and an older Timber right now. Is this plane flown in Safe mode a plane that is forgiving?
Any plane in SAFE is going to be forgiving, but keep in mind SAFE doesn't prevent stalls, so keep your speed up, and you'll be fine! Good luck!
Thanks for the tip, and for your videos!