He’s right, tho. Contemporary records show that he publicly started multiple times before and during the convention that he didn’t want to be considered for the nomination. Also, because he was the Convention Chairman, he thought it be improper for him to be nominated because it would look as though he used his influence as Chairman to get the nomination. It is possible that he wash just playing hard to get and was purposely trying to publicly seem uninterested in order to get the Convention to draft him for the Nomination. It is a possibility. But as far as public statements and such, everything indicates that Seymour did not want the nomination.
@@kluge1245 I forgot about that comment but yes, it's going to happen for the first time since then. The three sitting presidents who refused to attend the next inauguration were followed by popular presidencies that won re-election.
@@shaizadamji3338 just remember, my young friend, whenever you start forming opinions about politics or.. well, anything, BE INFORMED! Do research and make sure your sources are reputable.
Mr. Beat, while i appreciate the other types of hosts here. I like your dry wit and delivery. It shows that you're an intellectual. That's also a winner in my book. A whole lot of hosts step outside of the box. Stop that you don't need to do that just keep on doing what you are doing.
The new African American votes in the South, combined with the fact that Grant won the Northern States of Indiana, Connecticut and Pennsylvania by very narrow margins, led to the thought that a majority of the white voters in the nation preferred Seymour to Grant.
If you look at the county map in South Georgia. Seymour won by massive margins. 90% in some counties. South Georgia has extremely high African American populations. Many African Americans in the south voted for the Democrats surprisingly.
I’m not sure Grant relied on the immigrant vote much ... most primary sources are pretty clear that immigrants favored the Democratic Party (as the “Party of the People,” specifically in Northern cities) by wide margins, specifically the Italians and Irish.
His heart was in the right place for a lot of issues but unfortunately since he wasn't that into politics, many guys in his administration had free reign and his presidency had a lot of corruption. Emperor tigerstar did a video talking about it
Genuine history is seriously so interesting. An unending series of unpredictable events with humans doing their best to try to come out on top. We've come far from barbarians
How do we know the "Oh no, don't nominate me for President" act wasn't just for the public, while actually he (as chairman) was trying to make sure there was a deadlock so he could be nominated? I mean it sounds like House of Cards, but it's actually pretty straight-forward I think
Election Rundown: Took place on: Nov. 3 1868 Members of the collage: 294 Elec. Votes needed to win: 148 Turnout: 78.1% (up 4.3% from 1864) Candidates: Republican Party: Incumbent Army Commanding General Ulysses S. Grant from Illinois. Running Mate: Incumbent House Speaker Schuyler Colfax from Indiana. Democratic Party: Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour. Running Mate: Former Rep. for Missouri’s 1st Francis P. Blair Jr from *Missouri* Elec. Votes: Grant/Colfax: 214. Seymour/Blair: 80. Popular Vote: Grant/Colfax: 3,013,650/52.66%. Seymour/Blair: 2,708,744/47.34%. States Carried: Grant/Colfax: 26. Seymour/Blair: 8. Total Votes: 5,722,440. Fact for the election: First time a Republican was elected that wouldn’t be assassinated.
Three of the four assassinated presidents were Republicans: Lincoln, James Garfield and William McKinley. Today's medical technology could have saved Garfield and McKinley.
Fun fact: Grant was the first president to not go with his birth name later examples Cleveland, Wilson,Coolidge he was born Hiram Ulysses Grant but hated being called Hiram someone accidentally put an extra S when he joined the military school his middle name was not Simpson
There was a vast polarization of the northern electorate based on religion. Even Lincoln only won 55% in 1864. Republicans did well with the more pious sects: congregationalists, methodists and Baptists. As well as the abolitionist quakers and mennonites. Since these groups were spread across the Yankee belt from ME to OR, there 75% to 80% with those groups allowed them to win a bunch of electoral college heavy northern states by thin margins like NY ILL and PA. This same dynamic is what allowed the gop to win several close elections once the democrats gained the pv advantage after reconstruction.
One thing I think is really fascinating on the county map is Alabama. It's almost exactly the opposite of what it is today. Back then, all the "Black Belt" counties were solidly Republican, with the rest of the state voting Democratic. Now, it's just the opposite. If you look into it a little bit deeper, you can see the rise of Jim Crow through the county maps alone. As Reconstruction came to an end, more and more "Black Belt" counties started voting Democratic as African American votes were suppressed until they became the most Democratic (captial D, not lowercase d) counties in the state. After the passage of Civil Rights legislation in the '60s, and especially after the rise of the Southern Strategy, the state takes the recognizable color pattern it holds to this day with the "Black Belt" (And more recently, Birmingham) voting Democratic, but the rest of the state voting solidly Republican.
According to the show How the States got their shape, when Virginia left the union it took the half of the capital that was originally in its state's boundaries, which was partly cause to why Lincoln was deadset to making sure Maryland didn't succeed as Maryland could take the other half easy for the south. So it's understandable that it took a while longer for Virginia as I'm sure there were northern states not to happy about losing half of the capital and Virginia wasn't too happy about the results of the war.
When you put 72% of the population voted, do you mean 72% of eligible voters or out of the US population? 72% seems way too high if women are included in that number.
I never knew that this election was the first election that gave African Americans the right to vote, also Grant, and Schuyler look like they can be brothers.
There is no rule that the President and Vice President have to belong to the same political party; only that they run on the same ticket. John McCain almost chose a Democrat, Joe Lieberman, as his running mate in 2008.
Here's a totally useless coincidence: HORATIO Seymour was the Democratic candidate in 1868 and Hubert HORATIO Humphrey was the Democratic candidate in 1968.
The shift began with FDR, and was sealed and delivered with the 1964 election. At the 1964 Republican National Convention, black delegates were harassed and even physically attacked by white delegates. That pretty much ended major black support for the GOP.
Gotta love the false party switch narrative. Harassment happened everywhere. Still, the Republicans were the consistent friends of freedom by and large. This never changed. Johnson is the reason that immigrants and African Americans switched. He promised handouts. They took the bait and the black family was destroyed.
Your timeline is off....african americans didnt get the right to vote till the 15th amendment was passed and ratified which was because of president grants support
They already had the right to vote in many states - the Fifteenth Amendment just made it the national standard. Same with women, who could legally vote in some states 30 years before the Nineteenth Amendment.
He was technically still a Democrat, in 1864 Abraham Lincoln ran on a unity ticket not on a Republican one any he picked Andrew Johnson, a southern democrat that stayed loyal to the union to balance the ticket, which ended up being a huge mistake, but nobody knew he was going to get assassinated
That's correct. Lincoln nominated a Democrat as his running mate as a way of showing his commitment to national unity, especially as the Civil War ravaged the nation.
Yeah, Johnson was a Democrat. He was only picked for VP during the Civil War for the sake of national unity. Once the war was over, he became a Democrat once again
Ulysses grant was only lucky that in both Choices his opponents were terribly flawed. Horatio seymour never wanted to be President and so he ran a terribly racist campaign to get the people to vote for Ulysses grant, as Horace greeley was a horrible Candidate who didn't even qualify for President.
Democrats learned a valuable lesson that you don't push or force someone to run for a office they don't want. If Horatio seymour wasn't interested in being President, then the Democrats should have understood that and not push him for a nominated, much less force him. You can see that Horatio seymour did everything possible to get the people to elect Ulysses grant as President.
So much for the National Union Party. President Andrew Johnson has returned to the Democratic Party, and the Republicans are back to their old selves again.
Old Straw Hat Andrew Johnson was a Democrat. However, I don’t know when, but the Democrats and Republicans eventually flipped values, so that’s probably why you are confused. Now, I feel like there’s lots of crazy people in both parties. Smh
He was our only National Union president, technically speaking. Because that was the ticket he and Lincoln ran on, since Lincoln was Republican and he was a Democrat.
@@thebestchemicalelement4455 He was a Democrat first, but became a National Unionist when he ran with Lincoln. He never joined the Democrats after Lincoln's death though, so he remains our only National Union president.
@@thebestchemicalelement4455 Well, okay. That makes this one of the instances where it's hard to classify a president's party. Just like John Tyler. He started his presidency as a whig, but then got kicked out of the party so some say he was really an independent.
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Awesome. Can you do impeached presidents and include John Tyler and Richard Nixon.
"He absolutely didn't want the nomination!" Mr. Beat, you speak like you knew each man personally in these series.
He’s right, tho. Contemporary records show that he publicly started multiple times before and during the convention that he didn’t want to be considered for the nomination.
Also, because he was the Convention Chairman, he thought it be improper for him to be nominated because it would look as though he used his influence as Chairman to get the nomination.
It is possible that he wash just playing hard to get and was purposely trying to publicly seem uninterested in order to get the Convention to draft him for the Nomination.
It is a possibility.
But as far as public statements and such, everything indicates that Seymour did not want the nomination.
I only liked your comment because it was at 99
That’s the POINT!
Grant's first inauguration in 1869 was the last time a sitting president refused to attend the next inauguration.
@@kluge1245 I forgot about that comment but yes, it's going to happen for the first time since then. The three sitting presidents who refused to attend the next inauguration were followed by popular presidencies that won re-election.
Well Trump refused to attend Biden’s inauguration.
Abraham Lincoln My comment was before Biden's inauguration, but yes, that is the first time since then.
@@MeesterTweester Correct
@@MeesterTweester who was the third?
Hi I'm a kid who really likes to study about history and this video is amazing this really helps me study with American history
DeluxeSebastian Hey kid, did you graduate yet?
Troubled Sole PATIENCE 100
We haven’t learned American history yet but I love politics and History so much (I am 10 and my friends do not like me being a nerd)
@@shaizadamji3338 just remember, my young friend, whenever you start forming opinions about politics or.. well, anything, BE INFORMED! Do research and make sure your sources are reputable.
U mean PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN AMERICAN HISTORYYYyYY
2:57- Jesus Christ, grant supporters.
2:52
Well…. Did he do it?
@@drewburesh386 No
Heratio Seymour looks like Chewbacca shaved most of his face and revealed that he's actually Captain Picard
Why does Mr. Beat always have the strangest comments in the entire website
He looked like Nathan from unspeakable
Andrew Johnson was never nominated by the Democrats. He was Lincoln's running mate, nominated by the Republicans (National Union).
Andrew johnson was a democrat
he was a democrat, but he wasn't nominated by the Democrats @@tc-up2yw
Mr. Beat, while i appreciate the other types of hosts here. I like your dry wit and delivery. It shows that you're an intellectual. That's also a winner in my book. A whole lot of hosts step outside of the box. Stop that you don't need to do that just keep on doing what you are doing.
The new African American votes in the South, combined with the fact that Grant won the Northern States of Indiana, Connecticut and Pennsylvania by very narrow margins, led to the thought that a majority of the white voters in the nation preferred Seymour to Grant.
If you look at the county map in South Georgia. Seymour won by massive margins. 90% in some counties. South Georgia has extremely high African American populations. Many African Americans in the south voted for the Democrats surprisingly.
I’m not sure Grant relied on the immigrant vote much ... most primary sources are pretty clear that immigrants favored the Democratic Party (as the “Party of the People,” specifically in Northern cities) by wide margins, specifically the Italians and Irish.
in my opinion grant is one of the best presidents.
His heart was in the right place for a lot of issues but unfortunately since he wasn't that into politics, many guys in his administration had free reign and his presidency had a lot of corruption. Emperor tigerstar did a video talking about it
Lol. Kennedy was good. Eisenhower was our best living president. He warned us about military industrial complex , CIA.
Creepy Closet link to this video? I can’t find it
P Wolfman #12 Lincoln and regan too
Regan wasn't that good.
Genuine history is seriously so interesting. An unending series of unpredictable events with humans doing their best to try to come out on top. We've come far from barbarians
How do we know the "Oh no, don't nominate me for President" act wasn't just for the public, while actually he (as chairman) was trying to make sure there was a deadlock so he could be nominated?
I mean it sounds like House of Cards, but it's actually pretty straight-forward I think
Election Rundown:
Took place on: Nov. 3 1868
Members of the collage: 294
Elec. Votes needed to win: 148
Turnout: 78.1% (up 4.3% from 1864)
Candidates: Republican Party: Incumbent Army Commanding General Ulysses S. Grant from Illinois. Running Mate: Incumbent House Speaker Schuyler Colfax from Indiana. Democratic Party: Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour. Running Mate: Former Rep. for Missouri’s 1st Francis P. Blair Jr from *Missouri*
Elec. Votes: Grant/Colfax: 214. Seymour/Blair: 80.
Popular Vote: Grant/Colfax: 3,013,650/52.66%. Seymour/Blair: 2,708,744/47.34%.
States Carried: Grant/Colfax: 26. Seymour/Blair: 8.
Total Votes: 5,722,440.
Fact for the election: First time a Republican was elected that wouldn’t be assassinated.
Three of the four assassinated presidents were Republicans: Lincoln, James Garfield and William McKinley. Today's medical technology could have saved Garfield and McKinley.
Awesome man I think u should make a History Video about Andrew Johnson being Impeached.
That's a great idea.
Great idea!
Fun fact: Grant was the first president to not go with his birth name later examples Cleveland, Wilson,Coolidge he was born Hiram Ulysses Grant but hated being called Hiram someone accidentally put an extra S when he joined the military school his middle name was not Simpson
I have been watching your videos since 2013
+DeluxeSebastian That's awesome. Glad to hear from you now. And your username is boss.
These videos are so good
There was a vast polarization of the northern electorate based on religion. Even Lincoln only won 55% in 1864. Republicans did well with the more pious sects: congregationalists, methodists and Baptists. As well as the abolitionist quakers and mennonites. Since these groups were spread across the Yankee belt from ME to OR, there 75% to 80% with those groups allowed them to win a bunch of electoral college heavy northern states by thin margins like NY ILL and PA. This same dynamic is what allowed the gop to win several close elections once the democrats gained the pv advantage after reconstruction.
Vice President back then was a do nothing job. Taking the Vice Presidency was pretty much, the end of a career.
Grant is essential to go on with Lincoln's victory
can we take a moment to realize how horrible it is saying someone shouldn’t be elected because their dad committed suicide so they will also
Pee
Great video!
One thing I think is really fascinating on the county map is Alabama. It's almost exactly the opposite of what it is today. Back then, all the "Black Belt" counties were solidly Republican, with the rest of the state voting Democratic. Now, it's just the opposite.
If you look into it a little bit deeper, you can see the rise of Jim Crow through the county maps alone. As Reconstruction came to an end, more and more "Black Belt" counties started voting Democratic as African American votes were suppressed until they became the most Democratic (captial D, not lowercase d) counties in the state. After the passage of Civil Rights legislation in the '60s, and especially after the rise of the Southern Strategy, the state takes the recognizable color pattern it holds to this day with the "Black Belt" (And more recently, Birmingham) voting Democratic, but the rest of the state voting solidly Republican.
Horacio Seymour! The house is on fire!
No mother, it's just the northern light
Grant is the best. Not an an alcoholic. loved Julia and America and was take for Granted/
Horatio Seymour
*WE SHALL*
*SEE MORE*
It’s the “Tenure of Office Act”, not “Office of Tenure Act”.
yay its out
First election with a President from New York and a Vice President from Indiana.
and now
“Fine, I’ll run if you guys are gonna force me”
If Seymour did not want the nomination why did he run in the first place?
He didn't, at least until he was nominated.
Andrew Johnson is the first president to not go to the next president inauguration
And now Donald Trump is the second.
John Adams was first. John Quincy Adams, Van Buren, and Wilson also did it before Trump.
Ulysses S. Grant was the first presidential candidates to surpass three million total votes.
I would vote grant this election
According to the show How the States got their shape, when Virginia left the union it took the half of the capital that was originally in its state's boundaries, which was partly cause to why Lincoln was deadset to making sure Maryland didn't succeed as Maryland could take the other half easy for the south. So it's understandable that it took a while longer for Virginia as I'm sure there were northern states not to happy about losing half of the capital and Virginia wasn't too happy about the results of the war.
When you put 72% of the population voted, do you mean 72% of eligible voters or out of the US population? 72% seems way too high if women are included in that number.
Fun Fact: Colfax represented my District in the House and while he was Speaker of the House
I never knew that this election was the first election that gave African Americans the right to vote, also Grant, and Schuyler look like they can be brothers.
I’m confused. If Lincoln was a Republican, wouldn’t his VP also be a Republican? But you tell us that Johnson was a Democrat. Is that right?
Lincoln had Johnson on the ticket to appeal to Southern states I think.
There is no rule that the President and Vice President have to belong to the same political party; only that they run on the same ticket. John McCain almost chose a Democrat, Joe Lieberman, as his running mate in 2008.
CountArtha, Too bad he didn’t
@@CountArtha Lieberman was an independent at the time. But he was still associated with the Democrats
He switched parties
Jornal 21: abramagm Lincoln hide an Ak 47 under his hat and blown away batman with a Rada ta tat
Here's a totally useless coincidence: HORATIO Seymour was the Democratic candidate in 1868 and Hubert HORATIO Humphrey was the Democratic candidate in 1968.
I will try to comment on every election about a funny fac
The results sound similar to 1864
What song is this?
The reason why this is my first comment is because a couple weeks ago I made my account
Wow!
Jealous of Horatio’s neard.
African Americans and immigrants almost entirely votes for a Republican. Times have changed
Not really, the Republican and Democrat parties back then we’re just names, and stopping the 60s the pretty much just BC switched names.
The shift began with FDR, and was sealed and delivered with the 1964 election. At the 1964 Republican National Convention, black delegates were harassed and even physically attacked by white delegates. That pretty much ended major black support for the GOP.
Gotta love the false party switch narrative. Harassment happened everywhere. Still, the Republicans were the consistent friends of freedom by and large. This never changed. Johnson is the reason that immigrants and African Americans switched. He promised handouts. They took the bait and the black family was destroyed.
Grant Was A Decent President,He Would Have Been Higher If It Weren't For Scandal In His Administration
Horatio 🤣🤣🤣
Is that the same Blair the Blair House was named after?
Why did Horacio Seymour run if he didn’t even want to be the nominee?
he was KKK - see his DEMOCRAT KKK campaign posters & slogans
Peer pressure
democratic party pressure
WOOOOOO VICE was the representative of my State!!!!
Your timeline is off....african americans didnt get the right to vote till the 15th amendment was passed and ratified which was because of president grants support
They already had the right to vote in many states - the Fifteenth Amendment just made it the national standard. Same with women, who could legally vote in some states 30 years before the Nineteenth Amendment.
i am starting to imagine hanibal hablin as presidents
the loop
2:55 damn
1:03 “UH”
0:43 renominated by the DEMOCRATIC party?
He was technically still a Democrat, in 1864 Abraham Lincoln ran on a unity ticket not on a Republican one any he picked Andrew Johnson, a southern democrat that stayed loyal to the union to balance the ticket, which ended up being a huge mistake, but nobody knew he was going to get assassinated
That's correct. Lincoln nominated a Democrat as his running mate as a way of showing his commitment to national unity, especially as the Civil War ravaged the nation.
Yeah, Johnson was a Democrat. He was only picked for VP during the Civil War for the sake of national unity. Once the war was over, he became a Democrat once again
Andrew Johnson: Grant, you bitch!?
Hey thats not how you spell " Skyler" 🤠
Grant is an example of how great generals aren’t always the best political leaders.
Ulysses grant was only lucky that in both Choices his opponents were terribly flawed. Horatio seymour never wanted to be President and so he ran a terribly racist campaign to get the people to vote for Ulysses grant, as Horace greeley was a horrible Candidate who didn't even qualify for President.
and of course, ya list no facts or evidence .... a fine CRT example of DEMOCRAT whitewash
dio
200th comment.
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4:16
Your mum
Democrats learned a valuable lesson that you don't push or force someone to run for a office they don't want. If Horatio seymour wasn't interested in being President, then the Democrats should have understood that and not push him for a nominated, much less force him. You can see that Horatio seymour did everything possible to get the people to elect Ulysses grant as President.
So much for the National Union Party. President Andrew Johnson has returned to the Democratic Party, and the Republicans are back to their old selves again.
that neckbeard
We could do without that howling and moaning in the background.
The waffle House had found its new host
FYI: you keep saying A. Johnson was a Democrat. I'm sure you know he was a Republican.
Mmm, not true. Johnson was a Democrat.
Old Straw Hat Andrew Johnson was a Democrat. However, I don’t know when, but the Democrats and Republicans eventually flipped values, so that’s probably why you are confused. Now, I feel like there’s lots of crazy people in both parties. Smh
He was our only National Union president, technically speaking. Because that was the ticket he and Lincoln ran on, since Lincoln was Republican and he was a Democrat.
@@thebestchemicalelement4455 He was a Democrat first, but became a National Unionist when he ran with Lincoln. He never joined the Democrats after Lincoln's death though, so he remains our only National Union president.
@@thebestchemicalelement4455 Well, okay. That makes this one of the instances where it's hard to classify a president's party. Just like John Tyler. He started his presidency as a whig, but then got kicked out of the party so some say he was really an independent.
Turn off that stupid background singing.
Richard Whitfill I thought it was ok