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For me, the freakiest presidential coincidence is the fact that Jefferson and Adams both died on July 4, 1826- the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Andrew Johnson was a trash president, kinda sucks Lincoln was sandwiched in between trashy presidents, one that started the civil war and dipped then one who didn't know how to fix the nation after the civil war
@@libertyprime619 Andrew Johnson AND Lyndon Johnson were both trash presidents. AJ' was so lost in the sauce he legit thought the best plan to keep the Union together after Lincoln's passing was to amass another army and fight ANOTHER war, this time against the then French/Austrian controlled Mexico. He also put pressure in the OPPOSITE direction of civil rights issues. Lyndon Johnson took the couple thousand advisors Kennedy sent to Vietnam and turned them into hundreds of thousands of troops, in a prolonged war that drained the US of it's resources, killed the faith of it's people in their government and then on top of that, he only pushed for civil rights when he was FORCED to do something about it. Both were garbage, and did a real shit job of it. (imo)
"Both Lincoln and Kennedy died at nearby locations from where they were shot" Yes. As is what tends to happen when someone is shot in the head. They die, usually pretty quickly.
Well Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan survived their assassinations and both were known for being great, manly, Republican presidents who won by a landslide. Also, Reagan was an actor who played a western cowboy before he became president and Roosevelt was a real western cowboy before he became president. Both presidents had ranches and both were informally called "the cowboy president."
Actually every president elected in a year ending in 0 from 1840 to 1960 died in office. (Also president Zachary Taylor, who was elected in 1848.). Ronald Reagan broke that curse by surviving being shot by John Hinckley Jr.
@@daerdevvyl4314 yeah. Have you ever heard of the 0 curse? It was something to do with William Henry Harrison killing a native chief while at war. Its just a coincidence, but the story is cool
It’s the Tecumseh curse. He warred against William Henry Harrison in the Indian Wars in the midwest in the early 1800s. When WHH was elected president in 1840 he gave a multi-hour inaugural speech in the pouring rain without wearing a coat so he could appear “strong” and “tough.” He shortly thereafter contracted pneumonia and died a few weeks later.
I was expecting Kennedy to ride around the US, complete his first term, win the democratic nomination, get booted by Barry Goldwater somehow in 1964, coming back in 1968, before being sent to the moon and being stranded with Buzz Aldrin.
The coincidence that both of their assassins were know by 3 names is true, but the Central Intelligence Agency has 25 letters and John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters.
One you didn’t mention(which I understand you weren’t going over all of them) that I found impressive was that both their predecessors were the last ones born in the previous century. Buchanan was born in 1791, and Eisenhower was born in 1890.
I think thats just a consequence of being in the election of the 60s of your specific century. Guy who wins the 2060 election will probably be in the same boat.
@@Logan_Irrelevant No he's saying that one person was elected twice non-consecutively (Grover Cleveland), so he was counted as the 22nd and 24th president. Therefore despite having 46 presidents, we had only 45 people be POTUS.
I also think that it’s fairly obvious two people would have a lot of similarities if they ended up taking similar paths in life (like two presidents or two dictators) like of course they’re gonna be similar in some meaningful way
Yeah, John booth is a pretty generic sounding name, but Wilkes is a pretty interesting middle name. Idk if it was one of those old-timey names though. Like mark david chapman or James earl ray. I guess they all have pretty generic names so it makes total sense
If you think about this from a statistics point of view, it's not actually that weird. There's something called the "Law of Truly Large Numbers": With a large enough sample, normally uncommon things will become common. Since there have been over 100 billion people over the course of history, there's bound to be a pair with a higher than usual number of things in common. The fact that Lincoln and Kennedy were both presidents just _happens_ to be one of those things.
Well your not picking from 100 billion people just people born after Lincoln was and who were eligible for the presidency. So not all 100 billion. Not saying it’s a conspiracy just pointing out that its from a smaller group than 100 billion.
@@wallywallendo nope. Start with a 100 billion people pick two that happens to have several things in common. That one of the things is being a president is just a coincidence
@@reineh3477 Being assassinated American presidents, two of only four, is what made them notable enough for people to search for these coincidences in the first place.
The thing that makes it weird is that it was 2 incredibly famous people. If it was george from oklahoma and muhammad from saudi arabia it wouldn’t be weird at all. plus it’s just fun to find those coincidences that occur now and then.
Another detail I don’t think I’ve seen is that both spots they were killed is in Henry Ford museum in Dearborn, MI. JFK’s limo sits nearby Abraham Lincoln’s chair that each was shot in.
The scariest coincidence, the license plate of the car that Archduke Ferdinand (guy who was assassinated starting WWI) license plate was A 11 11 18. Don’t get it yet probably, but A is armistice November 11, 1918 when the Armistice that ended WWI was signed!
I wasn’t sure if this was tru at first, but I looked it up and they still have the original car and I swear to god it’s on of the creepiest things ever
Lincoln was a Republican, Kennedy a Democrat. Lincoln was elected president twice, Kennedy only once. Lincoln had a beard, Kennedy was clean shaven. Lincoln was born poor, Kennedy was born wealthy. Lincoln was killed with a pistol, Kennedy was killed with a long rifle. Lincoln was shot inside, Kennedy was shot outside. Lincoln was born in Kentucky, Kennedy was born in Massachusetts. "Abraham" has 7 letters, "John" has 4 letters. Lincoln did not have a middle name, Kennedy's middle name was Fitzgerald. Maybe Lincoln and Kennedy were not that similar after all! :)
You too miss the point. Similarities between POTUS lincoln and POTUS Kennedy goes much deeper than first names and whether they have a beard or not. The universe can be calculated by numbers...einstein proved that. The facts associated with these dates are quite alarming. So alarming....it could have had some form of prediction on their fates.
11:59 I find it weird that Mr. Beat says he could find similarities between nearly anyone but chooses two who where not only alive at the same time, but also were allies and enemies.
Great comparisons, Mr. Beat...and I love the lighthearted glaze of humor overall...I enjoyed researching Abraham Lincoln (and some aspects of JFK) for my suspense novel, THE LINCOLN CLONE by C.C. Goodfellow. I was honored to have it under Glenn Kirschner's sacrosanct Lincoln statue during his February 4th Team Justice video.
Ok, this list was something else. Has anyone noticed that they have first names from the Bible? Or that their wives struggled to cope with their deaths?
White Christian males having biblical names is nothing new, and I hope my wife would be upset at my premature death, but move on with her life afterwards.
Oh, yeah And only one of their kids each lived to old age No offense to Caroline Kennedy, who's only 63 But her brother died in a plane crash at 38, her other brother died as a baby, and she had a sister who was stillborn
Number 14 isn't so unusual. Its common place for alleged murderers to be called by three names. Probably so they don't get confused with similar named non suspects.
Just imagine them all walking into a pub Stalin, Tito, and Trotsky are all sitting in a corner, Tito’s talking while Stalin and Trotsky are glaring at one another, then at the bar Freud is rambling one about his famous eel experiment, and then in the corner Adolf is drinking a beer and rambling about Aryan supremacy while glancing at Stalin. And then theres Franz in the corner talking to his wife about their trip to Sarajevo.
Did anyone actually call Oswald by all three of his names before he was infamous? I seem to recall watching a documentary about the Kennedy assassination where they interviewed some of Oswald's neighbors and they just called him Lee.
Even tough I am Norwegian I really like American history ( mostly because of you) and my English teacher knew this. Because of this she spent 15 minutes of the class showing us these “coincidences”. Also next week we are going to talk about a topic that I like. I choose the election of 1912.
Another strange, Kennedy-related coincidence is that C. S. Lewis, a famous Anglican writer, Aldous Huxley, a famous atheist philosopher, and John F. Kennedy, a famous Catholic president, all died on the exact same day.
Lincoln did not have a secretary named Kennedy but part of his SECURITY detail was a police officer named John Kennedy. The following one I discerned by myself. Andrew Johnson had once been a tailor, his wife had once been a schoolteacher; Lyndon Johnson had once been a schoolteacher, his wife had once been a "Taylor!'
Here’s another coincidence: if you take the alphabetical value of the initials of each of the assassins, and you add them up, you will find that each of the assassins’ initials add up to 35. John Wilkes Booth -> J (10) + W (23) + B (2) = 35. Lee Harvey Oswald -> L (12) + H (8) + O (15) = 35.
Here’s another. that alphabetic code you’re talking about is called Gematria. The word Catholic=35 and 46 JFK was the 35th and the only Catholic president. He was killed at age 46. Joe Biden happens to be the only other Catholic President and he’s the 46th president
Both Johnsons ended their terms in a year ending in 69, and they both died almost 100 years out of each other, with Andrew dying in 1875 and Lyndon in 1973
In 1951, the film "The Tall Target" was released. It dealt with a fictional assassination plot against President-Elect Abraham Lincoln staying in New York City on his way to Washington DC. The plot is foiled by a police detective named John Kennedy. The film was a box office dud, but did gain some interest in the wake of the JFK assassination.
Many may not know but while still a boy, Abraham Lincoln lost his mother to what was believed at the time to be a vampire's bite. He vowed revenge, but failed, narrowly escaping with his life. He was rescued by coincidentally Milton Green (Marilyn Monroe's photographer). Green instructed Abe on how to dispatch the bloodsuckers he'd seen 'necking' with his mother. Abe continued his fight against the undead well into adulthood and into his presidency, making his last stand against the pale long-toothed men on the eve of the Civil War's first battle.
When I read your comment, it suddenly reminded me of the short story book that was published in 1898 called “Titan.” It was a bit a new luxury liner called the Titan that sank in the Atlantic during her maiden voyage. And no, I’m not making that up. 😂
@@kaymuldoon3575Morgan Robertson was a prolific writer of fiction. "Futility, or The Wreck of the Titan" is his best known work, mostly for its unintentional predictions.
Following the Hitler-Stalin example: Both were from neighboring countries to where they ended up ruling Both mustaches became iconic Both their last names had six letters each Like you just said, lists like these can go on and on and on
About the assassins being known by three names: This is an artifact of the news media. The news media will often use first, middle, and last names when referring to high-profile alleged criminals in order to not get sued by other people who might have the same first and last names. But usually, the alleged criminals were not actually known by three names before becoming famous. Oswald was known as Lee Oswald before shooting Kennedy, but there might very well have been another Lee Oswald in Dallas at that time, so the news media used three names to avoid confusion.
I remember my fifth grade math teacher taking a day off of the lesson plan to tell us all the coincidences between the two presidents. What a fun class.
The chances they were both killed on a Friday is actually closer to 1/49, because they each had a one in 7 chance of being killed on a Friday, but the chances they were BOTH killed on a Friday is exponentially less likely, leading to a 1/49 chance
@@Craycrayallday OMGosh it is no different for them to both be killed on Saturday than it is for them to be born on a Friday, or a Monday, or Thursday! What do you not understand? Look: chance they were both killed on a Sunday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Monday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Tuesday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Wednesday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Thursday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Friday = 1/49 chance they were both killed on a Saturday = 1/49 Add them all up together and you get 7/49 which equals 1/7. Therefore the chance of them both being killed on the same day is 1/7.
This is one of those weird “truth is stranger than fiction moments” because the truth doesn’t have to imitate reality, where fiction does. I.e. if this were written in a book it’s would be panned as “too unrealistic”
#14 should be added to the misleading category. Lee Harvey Oswald was never known publicly by his full name, until after the police investigation into the murder. It was the news media who began using his middle name in the aftermath of the assassination. You may notice news media often cites the full name (including middle names, where applicable) to notorious people, like serial killer John Wayne Gacy, for example. Often that is done to distinguish them from other people who may have a similar name, so they don't get harassed by the public, who might confuse their innocent neighbor for the killer. In fact, after Lee Oswald, visited Russia, he and his new girlfriend always referred to him by his alias, Alek Hidell. So no, Oswald was not known by three names, at least during his lifetime.
And yet he often signed his 3 names, as in the Mexico City hotel, and he used all three initials for his fake name at his rooming house. And the coincidence is the number of letters in the names of the two assassins. Is that so common? People have to mention that they were known by 3 names in order to point out that coincidence.
0:38: I have (or had) the poster on the left bottom. I later found at least 3 "coincidences" to be false. Two were mentioned by Matt: both the assassins' birth years and the secretary non-coincidence (OK, Kennedy's secretary was indeed named Evelyn Lincoln). The writer of that poster did a little hasty math: Booth was 26 when he was killed in 1865; Oswald was 24 when he was killed in 1963. But Oswald's 24th birthday was about 5 weeks earlier in 1963, while Booth died less than a month before his 27th birthday later in 1865. 1865 minus 27 is 1838 while 1963 minus 24 is indeed 1939. The third non-coincidence, at the very bottom of the aforementioned poster, not mentioned by Matt, is completely false: "Both Johnsons were opposed for reelection by men whose names start with 'G'". While Lyndon was opposed by Goldwater, Andrew, though a Democrat, was so unpopular, he wasn't even nominated to run in 1868. His presidential goose was completely cooked. He never faced Ulysses Grant. Thus, he was not opposed by Grant in the election, though they did hate each other personally.
John Wilkes Booth frequently acted under the name "J. Wilkes," in an effort to set himself apart from his famous acting family. Also, Oswald generally went by Lee Oswald, not his full name. The practice of referring to Oswald by his full name may have originated when Henry Wade, the Dallas County prosecutor, was addressing the press regarding Oswald being captured and charged. Henry Wade, by the way, was Wade in Roe v. Wade.
"When I leave the stage (for the last time) I will be known throughout the land" - John Wilkes Booth He meant that he would be well known for his acting career.
There's a tendency to refer to assassins of public figures by their first, middle, and last names at all times, even though they, like most people, went by only their first names on a day to day basis.....Mark Davis Chapman is another example.
@@jn8ive60 That isn't always the case. One example I know off the top of my head is Ronald Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley Jr. He's usually only referred to by his first name, last name, and the "Junior" suffix to indicate which "John Hinckley" he was. Although people might've started calling him by his full name if he was successful in killing Reagan, but I guess we'll never know.
@@iammrbeat Yeah but the comparison was that both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were from Southern states. Maryland was a southern slaveholding state. In fact a large population in Maryland wanted to secede but the constant military presence blunted that.
@@iammrbeat The comparison is that both are from Southern states. Maryland is a southern state (or was considered one at the time of the Civil War, nowadays it's more Mid-Atlantic).
More like both assassins were assassinated by religious men who changed their names: Jack Ruby murdered Lee Harvey Oswald and Boston Corbett murdered John Wilkes Booth.
Here's a difference, Lincoln's earlobes are not connected at the base, while Kennedy's are! I remember reading about these coincidences in a book of mysteries I had years ago.
8:06 For 17, this can be argued heavily spending on how you define "southern" One can argue that states South of the Mason-Dixon Line (the original north-south divide) and/or states which were Slave states were southern states (which applies to Maryland still, even if slavery was on the way out there). Still, that'd be very nitpicky
Having grown up in Maryland (from middle school to early adulthood) I've always found it baffling that people don't consider it the South. There were still active tobacco plantations when I was growing up. Granted the slaves had been replaced by migrant workers but still very much a southern state culturally. I don't know any Marylanders who consider themselves Northerners. Yes it wasnt part of the Confederacy but it was largely due to federal intervention since DC would have been surrounnded by two confederate states if Maryland had succeeded.
Both were only known by all three names after the assassinations. As an actor, Booth was mostly billed as either J. Wilkes Booth or John Wilkes - the latter to stand out from the other family actors. Oswald was known as simply Lee Oswald - the usage of his middle name was thanks to the Dallas Police needing to specify, due to confusion identifying him. Oswald had a habit of using false names.
In my opinion, although some coincidences may seem arbitrary or not too damning at first, when more and more are taken into consideration, as well as taken in regards to some of the truly shocking coincidences, that's when the general public starts to think something is going on, which I believe is fair, as you pointed out, in the chaos, our species tends to try to find any sense of order. I loved the video, and learnt some new things, so thank you. Also may his Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh rest in peace
The one about "dying near where they were shot" is so egregious to me. Like no shit, that's kinda how it works. You might as well have said "both died when their organs shutdown" WOW WHAT A COINCIDENCE
Kennedy died instantly, however Lincoln lingered for a while before he died. Kennedy had most of head blown away, where as Lincoln, his head was completely intact, the bullet was lodged behind his eye. but both would have been considered brain dead instantly immediately after the gunshots. when a bullet enters the skull it does a great deal of damage.
Here’s another: Lyndon Johnson and Andrew Johnson (Succesors of Kennedy and Lincoln) both ended their terms in a year ending in 69’ (1869 for Andrew Johnson and 1969 for Lyndon Johnson)
Lol, I remember finding a flyer detailing maybe a dozen "wild coincidences" between the two presidents and thought it was amazing when I was 7. I remembered looking back at it in high school thinking, "Man, a lot of these are really stretching it."
Woody Harrelson's father was a hired assassin who died in jail. He had claimed at one point to have killed JFK from the grassy knoll. And Woody's mother's maiden name was Oswald.
Which Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences do you find most shocking?
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Also, um....I forgot to mention.....
ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAD TWO SECRETARIES NAMED JOHN. HOLY MOLY.
Is that where you bought your clone
I’m jfk lol
@@fazejohnkennedy9987 Im Abe
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Weird Coincidences between Mr. Beat and Mr. Beast
1. Both youtubers
2. Both American while males
3. Both sponsored by Honey.
4. You can't spell Beast without Beat
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For me, the freakiest presidential coincidence is the fact that Jefferson and Adams both died on July 4, 1826- the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Not to mention his last words were "Thomas Jefferson survives."
@@superdude899 While Jefferson just died a couple of hours before him
@@JanStront Yep
Stephen Foster was born on July 4, 1826
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I feel like the "successors names were johnson" deserves more hype because they're the only two president Johnson's we ever had
Andrew Johnson was a trash president, kinda sucks Lincoln was sandwiched in between trashy presidents, one that started the civil war and dipped then one who didn't know how to fix the nation after the civil war
@@libertyprime619 feel sorry for grant the most though, he must’ve suffered loads after Lincoln died up until his death
Is Johnson the second most popular surname? I would have guessed Jones.
If that is the explanation then why haven't there been 4 President Smiths?
@@libertyprime619 Andrew Johnson AND Lyndon Johnson were both trash presidents. AJ' was so lost in the sauce he legit thought the best plan to keep the Union together after Lincoln's passing was to amass another army and fight ANOTHER war, this time against the then French/Austrian controlled Mexico. He also put pressure in the OPPOSITE direction of civil rights issues.
Lyndon Johnson took the couple thousand advisors Kennedy sent to Vietnam and turned them into hundreds of thousands of troops, in a prolonged war that drained the US of it's resources, killed the faith of it's people in their government and then on top of that, he only pushed for civil rights when he was FORCED to do something about it.
Both were garbage, and did a real shit job of it. (imo)
@@majorplothole2620 I forgot AJ did that lmao
"Both Lincoln and Kennedy died at nearby locations from where they were shot"
Yes. As is what tends to happen when someone is shot in the head. They die, usually pretty quickly.
I believe Kennedy died when his head was literally shot off.
Another huge coincidence, both Booth and Oswald assassinated an American president.
Lincoln died in Ford theater
Kennedy died in a Lincoln which was made by Ford
It's a no brainer.
Still, they were the most open minded presidents ...
@@SoulforSaleSo Ford is to blame then!
I like how many of these coincidences happened exactly one hundred years apart. It's almost like the two presidents were born about 100 years apart
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To me they are pointers that might be about reincarnation.
@Vasonte The Animator’s Alt Yeah, however the coincidence may be in the cumulative sum of the years when added together. Both equal 18.
@@MC-tg1xk Reincarnation? Pretty sure it’s the easter bunny and santa claus behind it
#31 - Both Lincoln and Kennedy died after they were assassinated... COINCIDENCE?!
IMPOSSIBLE 😳
#32 - Both Lincoln and Kennedy White Male Presidents
Well Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan survived their assassinations and both were known for being great, manly, Republican presidents who won by a landslide. Also, Reagan was an actor who played a western cowboy before he became president and Roosevelt was a real western cowboy before he became president. Both presidents had ranches and both were informally called "the cowboy president."
#33 - Both Lincoln and Kennedy breathed at least once in their lives.
#34 - Both Lincoln and Kenmedy were borm some time between the birth of the univirse and now
Lincoln was raised in a log cabin with his father. JFK once spilled Log Cabin syrup in his father's Lincoln.
Genuine laugh out loud
Man that was good
There is also one fact that I know, Both Lincoln and Kennedy had 4 children, But only one of each survived to old age.
WOAHNESS
@@iammrbeat actually 2, JFK jr died at 39
@@dolliegray666 that’s not that old
@@cam-edy1294 unlike your age, no offense
@@dolliegray666 yeah, 39 isn't a full life. Silly comment, no offense
The guy who wins the 2060 election: “On second thought, I’ll pass.”
Actually every president elected in a year ending in 0 from 1840 to 1960 died in office. (Also president Zachary Taylor, who was elected in 1848.). Ronald Reagan broke that curse by surviving being shot by John Hinckley Jr.
@@daerdevvyl4314 yeah. Have you ever heard of the 0 curse? It was something to do with William Henry Harrison killing a native chief while at war. Its just a coincidence, but the story is cool
@@daerdevvyl4314 Biden sweating rn
It’s the Tecumseh curse. He warred against William Henry Harrison in the Indian Wars in the midwest in the early 1800s. When WHH was elected president in 1840 he gave a multi-hour inaugural speech in the pouring rain without wearing a coat so he could appear “strong” and “tough.” He shortly thereafter contracted pneumonia and died a few weeks later.
Everyone mentioned the Curse of Tippecanoe, but noone said its proper name.
"They both died near the locations they were shot"
Amazing.
I was expecting Kennedy to ride around the US, complete his first term, win the democratic nomination, get booted by Barry Goldwater somehow in 1964, coming back in 1968, before being sent to the moon and being stranded with Buzz Aldrin.
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@@ronniesummers2562 the person at your local grocery store trying to sell you beets is his evil twin "Mr. Beet"
@@iammrbeat I hope you don’t BEAT me to it 😅
@@derpmcgerp8062 it is a good vegetable
The coincidence that both of their assassins were know by 3 names is true, but the Central Intelligence Agency has 25 letters and John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters.
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Good thing JFK Jr. is still alive though, along with Tupac and Elvis. But it's sad that we lost Paul McCartney and Avril Lavigne.
@salt You're a straight shooter.
I love it!! (Maybe I shouldn't laugh.)
Nope, Cosa Nostra has less than 15 letters.
One you didn’t mention(which I understand you weren’t going over all of them) that I found impressive was that both their predecessors were the last ones born in the previous century. Buchanan was born in 1791, and Eisenhower was born in 1890.
Also if you add the individual numbers both 1791 and 1890 add up to 18.
1 + 7 + 9 + 1 = 18
1 + 8 + 9 + 0 = 18
I think thats just a consequence of being in the election of the 60s of your specific century. Guy who wins the 2060 election will probably be in the same boat.
thats actually true dang-
The weirdest connection, they were both presidents, like we only have had 45
I smell a conspiracy
It’s 46 now, right? I don’t remember for sure, but I think Biden is the 46th?
@@Logan_Irrelevant 45 Cleveland counts as both 22 and 24 because of the gap between his two terms
@@Logan_Irrelevant No he's saying that one person was elected twice non-consecutively (Grover Cleveland), so he was counted as the 22nd and 24th president. Therefore despite having 46 presidents, we had only 45 people be POTUS.
@@lukedetering4490 thanks for clarifying. I didn’t understand at first. Thanks man!
Coincidences between Mr. Beat and Mr. Beast:
1) both have at least six identical letters in their names
2) both have a sponsorship from Honey
Both are Male and on youtube
Both have Mr in their name
Both has a goatee, both uses vibrant colors
Both are humans
With all these coincidences they might as well be the same person!
I also think that it’s fairly obvious two people would have a lot of similarities if they ended up taking similar paths in life (like two presidents or two dictators) like of course they’re gonna be similar in some meaningful way
its also easy to find similarities when you try to look for them
All assassins and criminals have to been known by their full names. This is to prevent the wrong person from being arrested.
Yeah, John booth is a pretty generic sounding name, but Wilkes is a pretty interesting middle name. Idk if it was one of those old-timey names though. Like mark david chapman or James earl ray. I guess they all have pretty generic names so it makes total sense
But having the exact same number of letters is pretty cool
@@iammrbeat stalin and hitler have the same amount of letters too (x-files theme plays)
@@iammrbeat yeah
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If you think about this from a statistics point of view, it's not actually that weird. There's something called the "Law of Truly Large Numbers": With a large enough sample, normally uncommon things will become common. Since there have been over 100 billion people over the course of history, there's bound to be a pair with a higher than usual number of things in common. The fact that Lincoln and Kennedy were both presidents just _happens_ to be one of those things.
Well your not picking from 100 billion people just people born after Lincoln was and who were eligible for the presidency. So not all 100 billion. Not saying it’s a conspiracy just pointing out that its from a smaller group than 100 billion.
Still a lil sus
@@wallywallendo nope. Start with a 100 billion people pick two that happens to have several things in common. That one of the things is being a president is just a coincidence
@@reineh3477 Being assassinated American presidents, two of only four, is what made them notable enough for people to search for these coincidences in the first place.
The thing that makes it weird is that it was 2 incredibly famous people. If it was george from oklahoma and muhammad from saudi arabia it wouldn’t be weird at all. plus it’s just fun to find those coincidences that occur now and then.
Another detail I don’t think I’ve seen is that both spots they were killed is in Henry Ford museum in Dearborn, MI.
JFK’s limo sits nearby Abraham Lincoln’s chair that each was shot in.
The scariest coincidence, the license plate of the car that Archduke Ferdinand (guy who was assassinated starting WWI) license plate was A 11 11 18. Don’t get it yet probably, but A is armistice November 11, 1918 when the Armistice that ended WWI was signed!
Honestly this was really crazy considering all the possible combinations of the liscence plates
I was born 11 11 92. COINCIDENCE!?
@@FrostedRaps i was born in 11 11 as well
I wasn’t sure if this was tru at first, but I looked it up and they still have the original car and I swear to god it’s on of the creepiest things ever
How do you know the A stands for armistice?
Lincoln was a Republican, Kennedy a Democrat.
Lincoln was elected president twice, Kennedy only once.
Lincoln had a beard, Kennedy was clean shaven.
Lincoln was born poor, Kennedy was born wealthy.
Lincoln was killed with a pistol, Kennedy was killed with a long rifle.
Lincoln was shot inside, Kennedy was shot outside.
Lincoln was born in Kentucky, Kennedy was born in Massachusetts.
"Abraham" has 7 letters, "John" has 4 letters.
Lincoln did not have a middle name, Kennedy's middle name was Fitzgerald.
Maybe Lincoln and Kennedy were not that similar after all! :)
How dare you! lol
You too miss the point. Similarities between POTUS lincoln and POTUS Kennedy goes much deeper than first names and whether they have a beard or not. The universe can be calculated by numbers...einstein proved that. The facts associated with these dates are quite alarming. So alarming....it could have had some form of prediction on their fates.
Lincoln liked hats, particularly his classic stovepipe hat. Kennedy actually hurt the hat industry because he preferred not to wear a hat.
@@HoboJoe1416 It was actually the rise of the car around the same time that caused hats to lose popularity
The Russian Empire supported Lincoln in the Civil War. The USSR and Kennedy almost started a nuclear war.
11:59 I find it weird that Mr. Beat says he could find similarities between nearly anyone but chooses two who where not only alive at the same time, but also were allies and enemies.
They were both homo sapiens
They both had two arms
They were both bipedal
They were both male
...I could go on forever, baby!
Best comment thus far
@@iammrbeat Thank you Mr. Beat!!!
awesome
@@ogantafia1944 lol yeah
They both have remembered assassinations
*“WE DO THESE THINGS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY, BUT BECAUSE ARE HARD”*
hi George
@@anvithkakkera7196 hello
One of my favorite speeches of all time.
@@iammrbeat you should give a speech. Very inspiring history teacher
@@georgewashington3918 We're the two best president's.
Great comparisons, Mr. Beat...and I love the lighthearted glaze of humor overall...I enjoyed researching Abraham Lincoln (and some aspects of JFK) for my suspense novel, THE LINCOLN CLONE by C.C. Goodfellow. I was honored to have it under Glenn Kirschner's sacrosanct Lincoln statue during his February 4th Team Justice video.
Ok, this list was something else. Has anyone noticed that they have first names from the Bible? Or that their wives struggled to cope with their deaths?
White Christian males having biblical names is nothing new, and I hope my wife would be upset at my premature death, but move on with her life afterwards.
Oh snap! I think you're on to something.
@@keepyourbilsteins r/whooosh
@@iammrbeat You ant another coincidence? Matt Beat, and Beat Matt, have the same number of letters! Where is Rod Serling when you need him?!
Oh, yeah
And only one of their kids each lived to old age
No offense to Caroline Kennedy, who's only 63
But her brother died in a plane crash at 38, her other brother died as a baby, and she had a sister who was stillborn
Andrew Johnson was from Tennessee and LBJ was from Texas, so both of the successors were from a state that began with the letter "T".
Heh heh
@@iammrbeat mr bet give a money (just kidding)
Specifically “TE”
Holy crap!
Both Andrew Johnson And Lyndon Johnson died 10 yea4s after there successors
Now I need "All those weird John F. Kennedy - Shinzo Abe coincidences"
Number 14 isn't so unusual. Its common place for alleged murderers to be called by three names. Probably so they don't get confused with similar named non suspects.
Now that.. is interesting
That’s what I was thinking.
but the full names had the same number of letters
There is the cool thing of Hilter, Stalin, Tito, Freud, and Trosky all being in Vienna at the same time.
Also (less impressively) Franz Ferdinand
Just imagine them all walking into a pub
Stalin, Tito, and Trotsky are all sitting in a corner, Tito’s talking while Stalin and Trotsky are glaring at one another, then at the bar Freud is rambling one about his famous eel experiment, and then in the corner Adolf is drinking a beer and rambling about Aryan supremacy while glancing at Stalin. And then theres Franz in the corner talking to his wife about their trip to Sarajevo.
@@spaghettboy2173 coffee shop au
@@spaghettboy2173 There's a lot of corners in that bar lol
@@spaghettboy2173 delete this please
Did anyone actually call Oswald by all three of his names before he was infamous? I seem to recall watching a documentary about the Kennedy assassination where they interviewed some of Oswald's neighbors and they just called him Lee.
Even tough I am Norwegian I really like American history ( mostly because of you) and my English teacher knew this. Because of this she spent 15 minutes of the class showing us these “coincidences”. Also next week we are going to talk about a topic that I like. I choose the election of 1912.
I learn history of other countries but I mainly learn about America history.
I come from Uganda and i love European history
@@Joe-sd2kx sadly you guys probably know it better than some of my fellow Americans living here
That's awesome, and that's one of my favorite elections to look at. Thanks for the kind words.
That's quite a fun election to look at!
There are so many possible coincidences that it would be weird if you didn't notice any of them.
Good observation 🙂
Another strange, Kennedy-related coincidence is that C. S. Lewis, a famous Anglican writer, Aldous Huxley, a famous atheist philosopher, and John F. Kennedy, a famous Catholic president, all died on the exact same day.
Lincoln did not have a secretary named Kennedy but part of his SECURITY detail was a police officer named John Kennedy.
The following one I discerned by myself.
Andrew Johnson had once been a tailor, his wife had once been a schoolteacher; Lyndon Johnson had once been a schoolteacher, his wife had once been a "Taylor!'
This is not a coincidence, there is something we still don't understand.
Here’s another coincidence: if you take the alphabetical value of the initials of each of the assassins, and you add them up, you will find that each of the assassins’ initials add up to 35.
John Wilkes Booth -> J (10) + W (23) + B (2) = 35.
Lee Harvey Oswald -> L (12) + H (8) + O (15) = 35.
Oh wow thats pretty spooky actually.
Here’s another. that alphabetic code you’re talking about is called Gematria.
The word Catholic=35 and 46
JFK was the 35th and the only Catholic president. He was killed at age 46.
Joe Biden happens to be the only other Catholic President and he’s the 46th president
@@kayluciano4526 so he's gonna die at 35?
...oh wait
Cool!
@@JeskaiEye um hes much older then 35 right now
Both Johnsons ended their terms in a year ending in 69, and they both died almost 100 years out of each other, with Andrew dying in 1875 and Lyndon in 1973
Also, they both died 10 years after their respective predecessors.
@@tottenvillelegend826 Wtf!!
Nice
That's actually crazy since the Lincoln and JFK died 98 years apart.
Kennedy died in 1963, Lincoln died in 1865
When there's this many coincidences, they stop being coincidences
In 1951, the film "The Tall Target" was released. It dealt with a fictional assassination plot against President-Elect Abraham Lincoln staying in New York City on his way to Washington DC. The plot is foiled by a police detective named John Kennedy.
The film was a box office dud, but did gain some interest in the wake of the JFK assassination.
I just looked it up on IMdB.com. You are quite correct!
Wow
Many may not know but while still a boy, Abraham Lincoln lost his mother to what was believed at the time to be a vampire's bite. He vowed revenge, but failed, narrowly escaping with his life. He was rescued by coincidentally Milton Green (Marilyn Monroe's photographer). Green instructed Abe on how to dispatch the bloodsuckers he'd seen 'necking' with his mother. Abe continued his fight against the undead well into adulthood and into his presidency, making his last stand against the pale long-toothed men on the eve of the Civil War's first battle.
When I read your comment, it suddenly reminded me of the short story book that was published in 1898 called “Titan.” It was a bit a new luxury liner called the Titan that sank in the Atlantic during her maiden voyage. And no, I’m not making that up. 😂
@@kaymuldoon3575Morgan Robertson was a prolific writer of fiction. "Futility, or The Wreck of the Titan" is his best known work, mostly for its unintentional predictions.
I would love this man to be my history teacher. Loving history this man just makes it better!
Aww thank you!
@@iammrbeat what grade do you teach Mr. Beat
@@iammrbeat thank you 2!
@@mattg-xy8jr I teach mostly juniors, but really 9-12
Awe.... 🥰
I need him as everybody's history teacher.
Following the Hitler-Stalin example:
Both were from neighboring countries to where they ended up ruling
Both mustaches became iconic
Both their last names had six letters each
Like you just said, lists like these can go on and on and on
Hitler ruled Germany though he was not German, Stalin ruled Russia though he was not Russian.
@@johngurlides9157 Pretty sure that's not true.
@@JohnSmithAnythingChannel But it is true! Hitler was Austrian and Stalin was Georgian (real name Djugazhvili).
@@johngurlides9157 Just looked it up. So you're right.
@@JohnSmithAnythingChannel it is. Hitler was from Austria and Stalin was from Georgia
According to a cancelled cartoon I saw on UA-cam, both had a thing with Cleopatra
Its coming back...
And both of them had major setbacks during a road race
My history teacher taught me about this in 10th grade back in 1997. You're conclusion could be argued that a barn is a warehouse. It holds stock.
I find that some of the coincidences are stretched, but a lot of them are really surprising
The bottom line is, collectively they are pretty cool
Me too actually. :)
Theres also a lot of similarities between me and Andrew Jackson!
Really? How come.
@@johnf.kennedy5904 Both involved in real estate, both populists, both believe in America first, both attacked by mainstream media
I would agree
I like Andrew Jackson a lot of people hate him for the trail of tears to a point where they are taking him off the $20 bill.
@@johnf.kennedy5904 He is one of my favorite presidents
About the assassins being known by three names: This is an artifact of the news media. The news media will often use first, middle, and last names when referring to high-profile alleged criminals in order to not get sued by other people who might have the same first and last names. But usually, the alleged criminals were not actually known by three names before becoming famous. Oswald was known as Lee Oswald before shooting Kennedy, but there might very well have been another Lee Oswald in Dallas at that time, so the news media used three names to avoid confusion.
not all assassins are known by 3 names. But in this case their full names both had 15 letters.
I remember my fifth grade math teacher taking a day off of the lesson plan to tell us all the coincidences between the two presidents. What a fun class.
The “three names” thing for the assassins is dumb, that’s just how we traditionally refer to infamous criminals/killers.
Isn’t it CRAAAZYY that Jack the Ripper was his given name tho?!!
but they don't all have 15 letters in their names.
I always found these fascinating. Thanks for debunking the false ones.
Two presidents who stood up for the American people and unfortunately payed the ultimate price.
They also stood up to the bankers
It’s cool that everything between them happened 100 years apart though
3 former presidents and 11 future presidents were alive during both assassinations
i laughed way too hard at both of lincoln’s secretaries being named john
I always found these coincidences interesting and I’m so happy you made a video on this!
I'm surprised I'm one of the few dorks to actually make a video about it 😅
The chances they were both killed on a Friday is actually closer to 1/49, because they each had a one in 7 chance of being killed on a Friday, but the chances they were BOTH killed on a Friday is exponentially less likely, leading to a 1/49 chance
But, they could've both been killed on Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. The point is they were killed on the same day, which is 1/7.
@@castonyoung7514😮 tell me your trolling
@@PapaSRJ Am I incorrect? Is the chance that two randomly selected people die on the same day of the week not 1 in 7?
@@castonyoung7514 yes for them individually it is 1/7 but for them BOTH like the comment originally said it is 1/49.
@@Craycrayallday OMGosh it is no different for them to both be killed on Saturday than it is for them to be born on a Friday, or a Monday, or Thursday! What do you not understand?
Look:
chance they were both killed on a Sunday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Monday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Tuesday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Wednesday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Thursday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Friday = 1/49
chance they were both killed on a Saturday = 1/49
Add them all up together and you get 7/49 which equals 1/7. Therefore the chance of them both being killed on the same day is 1/7.
This is one of those weird “truth is stranger than fiction moments” because the truth doesn’t have to imitate reality, where fiction does.
I.e. if this were written in a book it’s would be panned as “too unrealistic”
I agree, but it's worth noting that you can make almost anything interesting by cherry picking the right information to make it so.
whoever is elected president in 2060: *(chuckles) i’m in danger*
Just don't pick Johnson as their running mate and they'll be fine.
The random home alone reference was unexpected but *chef's kiss*
I like how the song was just him talking with a beat in the background 😂😂
So, rapping?😏
I’ve studied this in great detail and there’s a lot more coincidences between the 41st and 43rd Presidents 🤔🤔
Yea and the 2nd and 6th presidents too
The 22nd and 24th Presidents have even *more* coincidences 🤯
Currently binging your channel. Love your videos! The way you present makes it so interesting. Keep it up! :)
#14 should be added to the misleading category. Lee Harvey Oswald was never known publicly by his full name, until after the police investigation into the murder. It was the news media who began using his middle name in the aftermath of the assassination. You may notice news media often cites the full name (including middle names, where applicable) to notorious people, like serial killer John Wayne Gacy, for example. Often that is done to distinguish them from other people who may have a similar name, so they don't get harassed by the public, who might confuse their innocent neighbor for the killer. In fact, after Lee Oswald, visited Russia, he and his new girlfriend always referred to him by his alias, Alek Hidell. So no, Oswald was not known by three names, at least during his lifetime.
And yet he often signed his 3 names, as in the Mexico City hotel, and he used all three initials for his fake name at his rooming house. And the coincidence is the number of letters in the names of the two assassins. Is that so common? People have to mention that they were known by 3 names in order to point out that coincidence.
They both lived in the same house, had the same address and spoke English! Crazy right
0:38: I have (or had) the poster on the left bottom. I later found at least 3 "coincidences" to be false. Two were mentioned by Matt: both the assassins' birth years and the secretary non-coincidence (OK, Kennedy's secretary was indeed named Evelyn Lincoln). The writer of that poster did a little hasty math: Booth was 26 when he was killed in 1865; Oswald was 24 when he was killed in 1963. But Oswald's 24th birthday was about 5 weeks earlier in 1963, while Booth died less than a month before his 27th birthday later in 1865. 1865 minus 27 is 1838 while 1963 minus 24 is indeed 1939.
The third non-coincidence, at the very bottom of the aforementioned poster, not mentioned by Matt, is completely false: "Both Johnsons were opposed for reelection by men whose names start with 'G'". While Lyndon was opposed by Goldwater, Andrew, though a Democrat, was so unpopular, he wasn't even nominated to run in 1868. His presidential goose was completely cooked. He never faced Ulysses Grant. Thus, he was not opposed by Grant in the election, though they did hate each other personally.
John Wilkes Booth frequently acted under the name "J. Wilkes," in an effort to set himself apart from his famous acting family. Also, Oswald generally went by Lee Oswald, not his full name. The practice of referring to Oswald by his full name may have originated when Henry Wade, the Dallas County prosecutor, was addressing the press regarding Oswald being captured and charged. Henry Wade, by the way, was Wade in Roe v. Wade.
Very good points to bring up!
"When I leave the stage (for the last time) I will be known throughout the land" - John Wilkes Booth
He meant that he would be well known for his acting career.
There's a tendency to refer to assassins of public figures by their first, middle, and last names at all times, even though they, like most people, went by only their first names on a day to day basis.....Mark Davis Chapman is another example.
@@jn8ive60 That isn't always the case. One example I know off the top of my head is Ronald Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley Jr. He's usually only referred to by his first name, last name, and the "Junior" suffix to indicate which "John Hinckley" he was. Although people might've started calling him by his full name if he was successful in killing Reagan, but I guess we'll never know.
Literally the social studies teacher we wish we all had in High School. Love the video dude keep it up
You are so kind to say that!
I was lucky to have my 10th grade history teacher be interesting and fun
I wanna teach American history! I know a lot about it
The only person on UA-cam that has an interesting way to show a sponsor!
It’s always a good day when Mr. Beat uploads :)
:)
8:12 Maryland was considered to be a southern state at the time but stayed in the union
That was exactly my point (that it stayed in the Union)
@@iammrbeat Yeah but the comparison was that both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were from Southern states. Maryland was a southern slaveholding state. In fact a large population in Maryland wanted to secede but the constant military presence blunted that.
@@iammrbeat The comparison is that both are from Southern states. Maryland is a southern state (or was considered one at the time of the Civil War, nowadays it's more Mid-Atlantic).
@@everynametaken Supposedly, Washington DC was intentionally meant to be built between Northern and Southern states as a form of compromise.
Coincidentally, I found this video on my recommendations a day after I first heard of these coincidences
Honey went from Mr.Beast to Mr.Beat, coincidence? I think not.
I feel like Honey accidentally sponsored you while trying to sponsor Mr.Beast
XD
This is probably why I’m good friends with Lincoln.
Holy sh*t
@@Lize_2134 how did you find 2 of my comments?
@@Lize_2134 oh wait no nvm.
@@Cruz009 *MAGIC*
@@Cruz009 also someones trying to shoot you with a rifle
Both assassins encountered a time traveler Peter corrigan met booth and Sam Beckett leapt into Oswald
Jake Epping killed Oswald
FACTS
@@ActuallyNoah Who's this Jake Epping fellow? I think you mean George Amberson.
More like both assassins were assassinated by religious men who changed their names: Jack Ruby murdered Lee Harvey Oswald and Boston Corbett murdered John Wilkes Booth.
Oh boy!
Here's a difference, Lincoln's earlobes are not connected at the base, while Kennedy's are!
I remember reading about these coincidences in a book of mysteries I had years ago.
8:06
For 17, this can be argued heavily spending on how you define "southern"
One can argue that states South of the Mason-Dixon Line (the original north-south divide) and/or states which were Slave states were southern states (which applies to Maryland still, even if slavery was on the way out there).
Still, that'd be very nitpicky
Having grown up in Maryland (from middle school to early adulthood) I've always found it baffling that people don't consider it the South. There were still active tobacco plantations when I was growing up. Granted the slaves had been replaced by migrant workers but still very much a southern state culturally. I don't know any Marylanders who consider themselves Northerners. Yes it wasnt part of the Confederacy but it was largely due to federal intervention since DC would have been surrounnded by two confederate states if Maryland had succeeded.
"They both died near where they were shot." Surprised Pikachu face
Fun Fact. Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln were both born on 12 February 1809. Just figured that out, wanted to tell it to someone.
God just replayed the same campaign with a different character
Both were only known by all three names after the assassinations. As an actor, Booth was mostly billed as either J. Wilkes Booth or John Wilkes - the latter to stand out from the other family actors.
Oswald was known as simply Lee Oswald - the usage of his middle name was thanks to the Dallas Police needing to specify, due to confusion identifying him. Oswald had a habit of using false names.
They do that with most famous assassins. Or at least supposed assassins.
James Earl Ray
Mark David Chapman
in my opinion 17 is correct since most people consider maryland southern
In my opinion, although some coincidences may seem arbitrary or not too damning at first, when more and more are taken into consideration, as well as taken in regards to some of the truly shocking coincidences, that's when the general public starts to think something is going on, which I believe is fair, as you pointed out, in the chaos, our species tends to try to find any sense of order. I loved the video, and learnt some new things, so thank you. Also may his Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh rest in peace
Thanks for the nice comment!
I didn’t realize this started so soon after his death, I thought it was just a new thing!
The one about "dying near where they were shot" is so egregious to me. Like no shit, that's kinda how it works. You might as well have said "both died when their organs shutdown" WOW WHAT A COINCIDENCE
What about the one where they both died in a place that was different from where they were shot. Neither one of them died on the spot.
Kennedy died instantly, however Lincoln lingered for a while before he died. Kennedy had most of head blown away, where as Lincoln, his head was completely intact, the bullet was lodged behind his eye. but both would have been considered brain dead instantly immediately after the gunshots. when a bullet enters the skull it does a great deal of damage.
@@kiwitrainguy Kennedy was dead instantly when the bullet ripped his head apart. in fact a sizeable amount of his head and brains were missing.
History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme!
Twain got this right. Never liked the ‘history repeats itself’ cliche’.
I just were watching of a video of yours when this notification showed up! :)
That is terrific. Thanks for watching both! :)
Thank you Mr Beast
Here’s another: Lyndon Johnson and Andrew Johnson (Succesors of Kennedy and Lincoln) both ended their terms in a year ending in 69’ (1869 for Andrew Johnson and 1969 for Lyndon Johnson)
Lincoln was born dirt poor, Kennedy’s family was one of the richest in the country.
Lincoln didn't have a secretary named Kennedy, but did have two secretaries names John. Hmm, interesting...
Numerical coincidences can be found with any two people if you look hard enough.
Great Video! I always considered Lincoln and JFK to be one of my favorite presidents.
Me too! And thank you!
Booth was 26 and was killed on the 26th. Oswald was 24 and died on the 24th.
Lol, I remember finding a flyer detailing maybe a dozen "wild coincidences" between the two presidents and thought it was amazing when I was 7. I remembered looking back at it in high school thinking, "Man, a lot of these are really stretching it."
Well I go to a school called JFK Memorial High School so I guess I’m related to this stuff too
SUCH A COINCIDENCE.
Ah, yes! 3:50 into the video and it's FINALLY starting! I thought I'd be waiting for years!
I loved the "Monroe" coincidence. That was about as reaching as you'll get.
That was obviously a joke.
And it wasn't even true.
Woody Harrelson's father was a hired assassin who died in jail. He had claimed at one point to have killed JFK from the grassy knoll. And Woody's mother's maiden name was Oswald.