It's a little sad that Lincoln dropped Hannibal Hamlin as VP. Not just because Johnson was a terrible president, but we missed out on having possibly the coolest named president.
@RYLE SALUNGA On the issue of Reconstruction, he'd be like Grant without the corruption. However, Hamlin was one the few Republicans who originally came from the Democratic party, not the Whigs, so his economic policies would probably more resemble the Democrats in the lead-up to the civil war, rather than the Whig economic policy. Expect a better reconstruction, but not homesteading or government support of railroads under his tenure. Overall a net gain, probably.
Agreed I should have kept Hamlin as my running mate because he definitely would have been a better Reconstruction president than Johnson. Given my landslide win in 1864, I probably would have won without Johnson as my running mate.
Abraham Lincoln secretly pledged that should he lose the election, he would win the war between election day and the Inauguration of his successor, because the new president "will have secured his election on such ground that he cannot possibly save [the Union] afterward", in Lincoln's words.
Wouldn’t that be an interesting timeline, Lincoln loses the election, wins the war, very likely escapes being shot, and leaves office at the height of his popularity to be replaced by McClellan. What would even happen next
@@akorn9943 We don't know if Lincoln would have avoided being shot even out of office since a lot of people hated his guts. But if McClellan became president I highly doubt slavery would have been abolished through the 13th amendment because it may not have passed the House between the election and inauguration day. McClellan himself was anti-abolition.
@@sydhenderson6753 Of course the President doesn't do that. But Lincoln and his administration were able to convince a few lame duck Democrats to change their vote in favor of the 13th amendment in exchange for prolonging their political careers, which was instrumental in getting the amendment passed. This would have not likely happened had McClellan won the presidency.
I think that it was a good thing that this election went down though, it shows that even in the most troubling times we still uphold our democratic process
To clarify on the Electoral Map: Tennessee and Louisiana, which were recently captured from the Confederates, had "elections" in them. However, their electoral votes were not counted, being deemed invalid as they were still treated like the other Confederate States. And from sources I can gather, their popular vote was not counted either on the popular vote map. Those elections were more of a "opinion based" poll for the people.
You made a mistake around 5:04. The Civil War ended on April 9, 1865, and Lincoln died on April 15, 1865, 6 days later. So, Lincoln did, in fact, live to see the end of the Civil War and preservation of the Union.
No, he didn’t. On April 9:th general Lee surrendered but the CSA hadn’t capitulated. The civil war ended on may 9:th. By that time, Lincoln had been assassinated.
1864 was the first presidential election won by someone with a beard, or any facial hair for that matter (Lincoln didn't have a beard when he won in 1860). It was also the first presidential election where both major candidates had facial hair.
@@rukminikrishna1938 i mean sideburns do counts as facial hair and the main comment says “was the first presidential election won by someone with a beard or any facial hair for that” and the first president with facial hair was John Quincy adams since he had sideburns.
I thought of something: Lincoln was the first president to die during his second term office. W. Harrison and Taylor both died during their first term.
One of the great what ifs, what direction would the nation have gone had Hanibel Hamlin stayed on the ticket instead of Andrew Johnson taking his place? Would reconstruction have looked different somehow?
I think it would have been terrible. The way I see it is that if the radical Republicans got their way, it would have likely resulted in another Civil War or at least more fighting so having a more lenient person like Johnson start Reconstruction was probably better.
@emperorvalkorion1483 would it though? It was under Johnson's watch that the Southern States started to at least attempt to go back to their pre-Civil War ways, including paving the way for the creation of the "Lost Cause", the rewriting of Civil War history, but from a Southern perspective, to blur the lines between reality and falsehood
@SiVlog1989 Just look at what happened to Germany after WW1 and how punishment led to WW2 it would likely be similar to what would happen if the radical Republicans chose to punish the South.
Fun fact: because the Union had most of the territories if Tennessee and Louisiana, they actually voted and contributed 17 electoral votes to Lincoln, which at the end weren't counted
Somalia held presidential elections just last year while still in a civil war. Afghanistan held elections in 2004, 2009, 2014, and 2019 while at war for its entire existence.
@@theperfectmix2 Afghanistan was under American security and control hence the ability to do elections and that is even stretching it with constant Taliban attacks by 2009 2015
I wish you did the 1860 and 1864 CSA elections too. They were quite simplistic but I feel like it'd be really curious to get some insight into the southern politics as well (or at least their attempt at it, for it was only 4 years)
The 1861 Confederate States presidential election of November 6, 1861, was the first and only presidential election of the Confederate States of America. Their constitution stipulated a 6 year term for their president.
Some questions: 1. What is the name of the background music? 2. At 1:30 you state that Lincoln's suspension of the writ of habeas corpus was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Please cite the case. I am aware of Ex parte Merryman, 17 F. Cas. 144 (C.C.D. Md. 1861) (No. 9487), which was decided by Chief Justice Taney, but he was riding circuit in the State of Maryland, and that was not a decision of the Supreme Court.
This election.. It's always fascinated Me. Just the idea that The Nation had practically split into 2 yet We still continued our Democratic Duty to uphold the Electoral Process. Good stuff.
I can get my eyes to do some crazy focusing tricks with that picture of General Cochrane. It may be for a stereopticon. I can cross my eyes to split the center image into two, and refocus with the 2 side pictures. From there, I refocus again to combine the 2 false stereo images. I end up seeing 5 of him with the center in great relief and focus. If there are 3d elements to this photo, I didn't notice
Mr. Beat, I had always wondered something about this election, in regard to south. I realize the south had declared independence, so in that sense it makes since that they wouldn't have delegates, but it was argued by Lincoln among others that secession wasn't valid.There were no such Confederate States of America according to them, the civil war was an internal rebellion, so if one considers the positions of the southern states being a part of The United States and the states not having delegates at the presidential convention, they seem at odds.As per the constitution, not seeing the respective delegates of the southern states would be a breach of the constitution that no state should be denied suffrage. Perhaps, The South could have found their own candidate, someone that North would respect probably like Lee who was for state's rights, but wasn't fighting for slavery they may not have won, but they could have probably prevented a majority where it would go to the House and Radical republicans would have probably voted Lincoln in anyway.What are your thoughts on this?
I suppose that could have happened, but that would be wishful thinking to assume Southerners would even come to the table, especially by this point. Another think to consider is that the North had a lot more people, and thus a lot more representatives, so even with Southern representation, the North would dominate in Congress.
I've been watching your videos on specific elections, fantastic btw. There's definitely a few I want to show my kids as a recap after notes. I just have a quick question. With the percentage of who voted out of the population, is it out of the entire population or out of the population who could vote in the time/voting age population (in terms of more recent elections)? Thanks for the clarification if you can or anyone else can potentially provide it.
And because the Confederates had 6 year terms, so even placing Jeff Davis in the Confederate Presidency in 1861 wouldn't have given them an election until 1867.
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no its not
@@qw000pz Yes it is.
@@iammrbeat indeed
It's a little sad that Lincoln dropped Hannibal Hamlin as VP. Not just because Johnson was a terrible president, but we missed out on having possibly the coolest named president.
Hanibal Hamlin sounds too much like Hanibal Lecter.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 that's why it's cool
@RYLE SALUNGA On the issue of Reconstruction, he'd be like Grant without the corruption. However, Hamlin was one the few Republicans who originally came from the Democratic party, not the Whigs, so his economic policies would probably more resemble the Democrats in the lead-up to the civil war, rather than the Whig economic policy. Expect a better reconstruction, but not homesteading or government support of railroads under his tenure. Overall a net gain, probably.
It'd Be Nice Too Bc We'd Have A Cool Haired Dude
Agreed I should have kept Hamlin as my running mate because he definitely would have been a better Reconstruction president than Johnson. Given my landslide win in 1864, I probably would have won without Johnson as my running mate.
"I didn't lose!, I Merely failed to win!"
- George McClellan
and the americans keep coming
and they dont stop comming
Oversimplified moment
@@elitemk6They’re back to the rules and they hit the Americans runnin
This Lincoln guy seems like he's doing a good job. Let's hope he has a long, prosperous 2nd term.
Oh no! Mr. President look behind you!
(John Wilkes Booth gun noises and Latin screaming)
*pew*
@@thenjdevilsfanatic JWB: SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!!!!
I was too focused on the play at Ford’s Theatre!!!
Finally! Another election vid.
Andrew Johnson for vp was the biggest mistake ever.....
+Political Junkie News No doubt!
Mr. Beat's Social Studies Channel interesting man though
should have went with thaddeus stevens
Agree
Why?
Abraham Lincoln secretly pledged that should he lose the election, he would win the war between election day and the Inauguration of his successor, because the new president "will have secured his election on such ground that he cannot possibly save [the Union] afterward", in Lincoln's words.
Wouldn’t that be an interesting timeline, Lincoln loses the election, wins the war, very likely escapes being shot, and leaves office at the height of his popularity to be replaced by McClellan. What would even happen next
@@akorn9943 We don't know if Lincoln would have avoided being shot even out of office since a lot of people hated his guts. But if McClellan became president I highly doubt slavery would have been abolished through the 13th amendment because it may not have passed the House between the election and inauguration day. McClellan himself was anti-abolition.
@@gunshotlagoon922 In fact, if McCleland won, he would have possibly asked for peace for the Slave states.
@@gunshotlagoon922 Remember, though, that the President doesn't sign a Constitutional Amendment. Good if you approve of the 22nd Amendment.
@@sydhenderson6753 Of course the President doesn't do that. But Lincoln and his administration were able to convince a few lame duck Democrats to change their vote in favor of the 13th amendment in exchange for prolonging their political careers, which was instrumental in getting the amendment passed. This would have not likely happened had McClellan won the presidency.
I think that it was a good thing that this election went down though, it shows that even in the most troubling times we still uphold our democratic process
To clarify on the Electoral Map:
Tennessee and Louisiana, which were recently captured from the Confederates, had "elections" in them. However, their electoral votes were not counted, being deemed invalid as they were still treated like the other Confederate States. And from sources I can gather, their popular vote was not counted either on the popular vote map. Those elections were more of a "opinion based" poll for the people.
In fact, the Union did not possess Tennessee and Louisiana in their entirety, only a part
@@DutchUnion By then they had the majority of both states though.
I think this is my favorite U.S Presidential election.
Fav election with the greatest president ever
You made a mistake around 5:04. The Civil War ended on April 9, 1865, and Lincoln died on April 15, 1865, 6 days later. So, Lincoln did, in fact, live to see the end of the Civil War and preservation of the Union.
But he never got to see how “Our American Cousin” ended.
@@spacechimp555 "Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"
@RYLE SALUNGA lmao OverSimplified
No, he didn’t. On April 9:th general Lee surrendered but the CSA hadn’t capitulated. The civil war ended on may 9:th. By that time, Lincoln had been assassinated.
@@alvinhagg7412 look on wikipedia
I legit get kinda sad when I think about Lincoln being assassinated.
1864 was the first presidential election won by someone with a beard, or any facial hair for that matter (Lincoln didn't have a beard when he won in 1860). It was also the first presidential election where both major candidates had facial hair.
Does Martin Van Buren count?
@@ictoan5966 he had long sideburns not a beard
@@rukminikrishna1938 i mean sideburns do counts as facial hair and the main comment says “was the first presidential election won by someone with a beard or any facial hair for that” and the first president with facial hair was John Quincy adams since he had sideburns.
Martin Van Buuren had wild mutton chops so this is incorrect
He had side burns when he was older didnt he?@imajsstove2907
The fact that Hannibal Hamlin refused to shave "his thing" off his neck arguably might have cost him a second Vice Presidential term.
I thought of something: Lincoln was the first president to die during his second term office. W. Harrison and Taylor both died during their first term.
"He went with a Democrat"
_Top 10 greatest mistakes in American History_
He went with a white supremisists
@@ThatOneGuy7999 Exactly, the Republicans were the good guys back then
It wasn't a mistake, it was a wrong accuracy
*I went with a Southerner* 99.9% One of the worst mistakes in my presidency.
@@aeris2001 Well, a 19th century democrat is one thing; Andrew Johnson is another.
One of the great what ifs, what direction would the nation have gone had Hanibel Hamlin stayed on the ticket instead of Andrew Johnson taking his place? Would reconstruction have looked different somehow?
Most definitely it would have. Hamlin would have worked with the Radical Republicans.
I think it would have been terrible. The way I see it is that if the radical Republicans got their way, it would have likely resulted in another Civil War or at least more fighting so having a more lenient person like Johnson start Reconstruction was probably better.
@emperorvalkorion1483 would it though? It was under Johnson's watch that the Southern States started to at least attempt to go back to their pre-Civil War ways, including paving the way for the creation of the "Lost Cause", the rewriting of Civil War history, but from a Southern perspective, to blur the lines between reality and falsehood
@SiVlog1989 Just look at what happened to Germany after WW1 and how punishment led to WW2 it would likely be similar to what would happen if the radical Republicans chose to punish the South.
Alaska wouldn’t have been a state if it wasn’t for Andrew Johnson.
These videos are phenomenal
Glad you like them. :D
Thank god for Sherman and Grant.
Thank god we found the right generals in Sherman and Grant.
Your videos help me so much in my classroom! My students love them! Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for sharing them. I am glad they help!
McClellan: *I didn't lose, I merely failed to win*
Damn it. I wanted to say it but it's fine 🙂🙃👌
Fun fact mclellan became governor of new jersey after the war. there are roads named after him in the state
Looking at that National Union Party platform...they absolutely killed it. Pretty sure every single plank was accomplished.
Dammit, I should’ve have won this election!
4:27 - 4:33 I didn't lose!I merely failed to win!
Ah, I see you’re a person of culture as well!
Using oversimplified reference?
There is gonna be a tax for that
@@Memesgoo1 there's gonna be a tax for that
I destroyed him
@Moai you wanting to tax him well
There's gonna be a tax for that
Fun fact: because the Union had most of the territories if Tennessee and Louisiana, they actually voted and contributed 17 electoral votes to Lincoln, which at the end weren't counted
In reality those votes would never be valid.
I heard president Lincoln will be attending a play soon. I heard it had killer reviews
I didn't lose ! I merely failed to win!
At least Lincoln didn’t have to worry about wealth after his presidency.
What a lifesaver
It would have been interesting to also include lincoln's note about how he promised to finish the war even if he lost the presidency.
4:36 I guess Louisiana and Tennessee rejoined the Union by this point?
actually just parts of them
The United States must be one of the only, if not the only, country to have held a presidential election in the middle of a civil war.
Somalia held presidential elections just last year while still in a civil war. Afghanistan held elections in 2004, 2009, 2014, and 2019 while at war for its entire existence.
@@theperfectmix2 Afghanistan was under American security and control hence the ability to do elections and that is even stretching it with constant Taliban attacks by 2009 2015
Mcllelan didn’t lose, he merely failed to win
I didn't lose i merely failed to win!
Fun fact, the high school you work at is literally RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOWN I LIVE IN
Lincoln: 1864 I run for president, 1865 I'm going to die
3:44 , William Tecumseh Sherman . Better than Lee , by a long shot . Uh oh...
2:40 This might be Lincoln's worst political decision.
5 weeks, that's more than that poor harrison dude.
Appomattox surrender was 9 April, Lincoln died 14 April
Who else is binging these.
The National Unity party formed the first and last national unity government ever in American political history.
As a decendent by blood of McClellan, I think I am the only human dissatisfied with the results of the election.
My leige?
Kansas Represent, Mr. Beat!
I wish you did the 1860 and 1864 CSA elections too. They were quite simplistic but I feel like it'd be really curious to get some insight into the southern politics as well (or at least their attempt at it, for it was only 4 years)
The 1861 Confederate States presidential election of November 6, 1861, was the first and only presidential election of the Confederate States of America. Their constitution stipulated a 6 year term for their president.
I didn't lose, I mainly failed to win! - oversimplified
Some questions:
1. What is the name of the background music?
2. At 1:30 you state that Lincoln's suspension of the writ of habeas corpus was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Please cite the case. I am aware of Ex parte Merryman, 17 F. Cas. 144 (C.C.D. Md. 1861) (No. 9487), which was decided by Chief Justice Taney, but he was riding circuit in the State of Maryland, and that was not a decision of the Supreme Court.
Ex Parte Milligan.
The song is “Tenting on the old Campground”, but I can’t find the specific recording.
I wonder what McClellan would have done if he won
He was a War Democrat, so he would continue the Civil War.
Uhh how did Lincoln win Tennessee and Louisiana? Weren't they still Confederate states in 1864?
The electoral votes won did not count
They were mostly occupied by the Union.
Would be really funny if McClellan beat Lincoln after he fired him for not following orders.
Election of 1964 is like ordering a burger during a pig to human genocide
This election.. It's always fascinated Me. Just the idea that The Nation had practically split into 2 yet We still continued our Democratic Duty to uphold the Electoral Process. Good stuff.
2:58 What about the War & Peace Democrats.
Thankfully I won re-election.
I Stan Abe Lincoln
I can get my eyes to do some crazy focusing tricks with that picture of General Cochrane. It may be for a stereopticon.
I can cross my eyes to split the center image into two, and refocus with the 2 side pictures.
From there, I refocus again to combine the 2 false stereo images.
I end up seeing 5 of him with the center in great relief and focus. If there are 3d elements to this photo, I didn't notice
Hold on there, tennessee and louisiana participated in the election?
Yeah, Kansas!
Hi guys I'm obsessed with this video.
Me to lol
And there were postal shenanigans during that election for Mclellan but they didn't work and the culprits went to jail!
George McClellan: I didn't lose! I merely failed to win!
Abraham Lincoln: You know what old buddy, old pal, you're fired.
I check out the video
I would vote Lincoln this election
I would vote him any day over the options we have
Mr. Beat, I had always wondered something about this election, in regard to south. I realize the south had declared independence, so in that sense it makes since that they wouldn't have delegates, but it was argued by Lincoln among others that secession wasn't valid.There were no such Confederate States of America according to them, the civil war was an internal rebellion, so if one considers the positions of the southern states being a part of The United States and the states not having delegates at the presidential convention, they seem at odds.As per the constitution, not seeing the respective delegates of the southern states would be a breach of the constitution that no state should be denied suffrage. Perhaps, The South could have found their own candidate, someone that North would respect probably like Lee who was for state's rights, but wasn't fighting for slavery they may not have won, but they could have probably prevented a majority where it would go to the House and Radical republicans would have probably voted Lincoln in anyway.What are your thoughts on this?
I suppose that could have happened, but that would be wishful thinking to assume Southerners would even come to the table, especially by this point. Another think to consider is that the North had a lot more people, and thus a lot more representatives, so even with Southern representation, the North would dominate in Congress.
Can somebody give me a link to tenting on the old campground in the background? I can’t find this original recording…
Here ua-cam.com/video/9iosRhfhKFo/v-deo.html
@@forzajuve1297 thank you!
I know this is real late Mr Beat, but you forgot to include the battle of Mobile Bay as a factor in the decision of the election.
I've been watching your videos on specific elections, fantastic btw. There's definitely a few I want to show my kids as a recap after notes. I just have a quick question. With the percentage of who voted out of the population, is it out of the entire population or out of the population who could vote in the time/voting age population (in terms of more recent elections)?
Thanks for the clarification if you can or anyone else can potentially provide it.
Lincoln won? Woah, spoiler alert please?!
Why didn't he show the election of the Confederate States of America?
This is American Politics
Because it was not a recognized sovereign nation.
And because the Confederates had 6 year terms, so even placing Jeff Davis in the Confederate Presidency in 1861 wouldn't have given them an election until 1867.
it kind of depressing that everyone that we see here is dead
This video has 180 comments only? What?! How?!
So sad that Lincoln never got to see what he was fighting for in the end, at least he got to see African Americans have the right to vote.
Why dont you have 100k+ subscribers?
+Jeremy Clarkson I don't know but thank you. :) Maybe if John Green tweets out one of my videos one of these days.
Mr. Beat maybe ☺
Now he does
@@iammrbeat your wish has been granted
@@theretronians More than double in fact
Keep in mind McClellan literally got his hands on Lee’s entire battle plan and still only achieved a bloody stalemate at Antietam.
If the election had happened a year earlier...
I can't believe my homestate of NJ voted for McClellan. LMAO
Lol. You still voted for joe Biden. NJ
And?
@@AD-tj4jc Biden won
NJ voted for Stephen Douglas in the 1860 election, so it's not a surprise they voted for McClellan who was a supporter of Douglas.
Common New Jersey L
4:11 West Virginia!
didn’t know u were a fellow kansan.
Mr Beat can you do what if Abraham Lincoln lost the election of 1864
Lincoln won all but his home state
the general got revenge
Music?
I like it, when Abraham Lincoln did on Re-election in 1864.
Can someone explain to me how did Louisiana vote in the election if it was part of the confederacy?
It was mostly occupied by the Union after Farragut captured New Orleans.
1:52 radical *democracy* party
???????????????
why does nevada only have 2 electoral votes in this election?
According to Wikipedia one elector didn't vote. Don't know why.
A eleter died before they could replace him
George mcClellan didn't lose he "merely" failed to win!
love lincoln he's the best president followed by biden
Joe Biden's a mid tier president at best. Even though I lean more democratically than Republican I gotta say he kinda sucks
+4:36 How Did Louisana Vote, Didn't they secede
The Union had regained control of Louisiana by that time.
And Tennessee
how were votes of confederate states counted?
They didn't vote, they seceded from the USA
@@MeesterTweester no. not allowed.
Glen Pierce exactly
oh boy
The democrats ticket was made entirely of Georges
I wish you were my teacher
I with McCellan won
After watching Ken Burns' Civil war, I remember despising McClellan. I don't remember all the specifics but screw that guy
Fun fact, this election was the first time voters used mail in ballots
meep
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames
meep
JD Vance leading the new confederates
If only we had Hannibal Hamlin
🐐🐐🐐
My last name is also mcclellan
Huge Man
6'4