Would be good to do a new series that compares the change in composition of congress during each of these elections. Perhaps limited to 1900 to present
Roosevelt and Taft ran into each other at Chicago’s Blackstone Hotel in 1918 and had a little reunion. In the years since the 1912 election that caused the break in their relationship, Taft and Roosevelt had come across each other a couple of times and briefly shook hands, but things remained icy between them. A few months before their reunion in Chicago, TR was in poor health and undergoing surgery and a telegram from Taft to Roosevelt began the thaw in their relationship and opened up communication between the former Presidents. After their Chicago reunion, they kept in touch until TR’s death. When Roosevelt died at the beginning of the next year, Taft attended his funeral and Roosevelt’s son, Archie, actually brought him up to the front of the church to sit with Roosevelt’s family. Later, as TR’s casket was being lowered into his grave while snow fell, Taft lingered nearby and was visibly crying over the death of his old friend.
The man was shot and laughed it off like nothing happened and even gave the speech while the bullet was still inside his body, can we just stop for a moment to pay our respects to this man and his massive balls
Alf Landon also got 8 electoral votes in 1936 just like Taft in 1912, but unlike Taft he wasn’t the incumbent president, FDR was the incumbent president in 1936.
Patty just conceded and stepped out to Teddy Roosevelt who was much popular that him Republicans would’ve won the White House that election. But no his ego got in the way.
Okay but can y'all please just imagine if we had Teddy Roosevelt for a president during WW1? He would've built a bridge from Maine to Brittany and led the rough riders right through to Berlin.
*Fun fact:* Russian Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin wrote an analysis of this election. He was an emphatic supporter of Eugene Debs, shocker. It is called _"The Results and Significance of the U.S. Presidential Elections",_ and it's quite interesting to see his perspective on the American situation at the time..
He is kind of scary looking. His eyes look dead and his lips are so pale. I don't know if it's just that he wasn't very photogenic or what, but his pictures are unsettling to look at.
@@K.C.-Games among other things I'm starting to think even Andrew Johnson doesn't come close to what he did and that he's the most racist president and Johnson was really racist why did Lincoln pick Johnson
Mr. Beat it would be interesting if William Jennings Bryan endorses Theodore Roosevelt because Bryan was a progressive and it could’ve united progressive democrats and progressive republican
@@K.C.-Games many presidents were far more racist than him, and you may be surprised to know that he was more progressive than teddy roosevelt. As crash course us history put it, taft=liberal roosevelt= crazy liberal Wilson=socialist Debs= crazy socialist. But teddy all the way
The progressive ideals was invading a lot of countries for nothing,both republicans and democrats put America in the dumbest Wars with hundreds of thousands of American lives Lost during the progressive era
@Joseph R. Biden, Jr. This John McCain worship is some of the dumbest fucking shit I’ve seen and you must have the brain of an ant. McCain is not progressive on any spectrum, and you need to stop acting like he is.
I like this election. Maybe because of the wide range of choices in 1912. You got William Howard Taft , Teddy Roosevelt, Eugene debs, and Woodrow Wilson.
I always feel bad for Taft seemed like a really good guy, who was given unrealistic expectations to achieve. Glad to see that he found something he was very very successful in at the end
Fun fact for people who think Wilson would beat Roosevelt if the vote did not split well wrong Roosevelt would win since he might get all the Taft votes which add up to 50% and might win the election because he is the most popular candidate in the election
“Friends, I don’t know if you realised, but I have just been shot.” Apparently getting shot in the chest and going on to speak and complete your speech for the next 90 minutes wasn’t enough to make him become president.
A fewo things... If the Republicans nominated Teddy he would have won. Teddy would have entered world war one after the Lusitania, and the war would have ended sooner. Either the peace treaty would have been the same as our timeline, causing world war two to still take place or more lenient which could've avoided the second world war. If Teddy won we might have seen the two term limit earlier, so if world war two had happened FDR would probably not have been president during ww2. Heck, the Republicans might still be dominant today and far more progressive/liberal.
I think that if he won, maybe the world would be a better place. No Nazis, no Commies, a patriotic America that doesn't stick it's nose everywhere. Maybe we would be isolationist still.
T Rosevelt should have because A: he was young B: he should have at least won new York and/or ohio. I liked Teddy better than taft and Wilson. (no offence)
Fun fact about Taft, he was the first President to have an Oval Office in the west wing of the White House. It was located where the Roosevelt room is today. The modern Oval Office was built in 1934 to aid President Franklin Roosevelt
Despite winning no electoral votes, Debs DID win 4 counties nationwide (the most recent fourth placer to win *any*), and is to date the most recent fourth place candidate to win 5 percent or more.
eugene debs is such an interesting figure in history. especially when you look at it from a hoosier pov. what is quite possibly the most influential US socialist figure...came from indiana, a historically anti-communist anti-socialist state. crazy to me
Wilson won not from his popularity, but because First-past-the-post benefits unified parties over split votes. Had the US used ranked voting, Roosevelt probably would've won.
TR should have run again in 1908, technically he would have been within the unwritten two term tradition. He took over for another president the first term. Granted, very early on in the term.
Rather than get down hearted, Taft seems like he was glad to be leaving the Presidency. On the day of Wilson's Inauguration in March 1913, he had a huge smile on his face. As one of the Contributors to "The Presidents" put it: "So he had gone into the Presidency with a huge sweep and left in a most embarrassing way with only 8 Electoral Votes. But he didn't care, he was so glad as he said to step down and out, he didn't care at all,"
@neutral7786 I don't think it was necessarily Taft being delighted to hand over the reigns to to Wilson per se, but it was a symptom of how unhappy he was as President (in the previous episode, in the one that talked about the 1908 Election, Taft was described as much rather being on the Supreme Court than President). During his term, Taft, a normally jovial and light hearted man who knew how to poke fun at himself (his weight specifically), suddenly became grumpy and depressed with the result being that his weight ballooned to 335lbs. But with Roosevelt challenging him for the Republican nomination, Taft found himself in a situation where he couldn't really win. This was explained in one sentence by one of the contributors to The Presidents: "Taft may not have enjoyed being President, but he doesn't want to be bullied out of it by Teddy Roosevelt." The good thing is, eventually the two of them, Taft and Roosevelt, patched things up and became friends again until Roosevelt died in 1919
This is exactly why I hate Taft. He ran for president, making it where TR had to run as a third-party candidate and then was happy that he lost because he hated being president. Why did he bother running if he hated being president and was glad that he lost?
@emperorvalkorion1483 well, TR himself had a part to play in this. After his landslide victory in 1904, he publicly announced that he wouldn't seek another term and instead fully endorsed his good friend, Taft. He assumed that as they were best friends, that they shared the same ideas, that Taft would carry on with his policies. However, as shown here, that wasn't the case, Taft was his own person. Taft never wanted to be President in the first place, it was his wife, Nelly, who wanted to live in the White House and live the lifestyle of a First Lady. His discomfort in the Presidency manifested itself in his weight, already higher than average, ballooning to 355lbs. I'm sure he would have quite happily stood back and let someone else run for Office in 1912, but with TR's increasing criticism of Taft's Administration, Taft felt he was being bullied out of it and didn't want that to happen
“Soon there was a clear split in the republican party between the more conservative leaning Republicans loved by Taft and the progressive Republicans led by Teddy Roosevelt” Mr beat giving us a 2024 spoiler 🤪
you left so much out of this video OMG like Wilson was the favorite of JP Mogan who financed his campaign and who also financed Theodore Roosevelt's campaign. Wonder why? hmmmm
November 13, 1912. The day that my paternal grandmother turned 26. And she and my grandfather were expecting their third child very soon. They already had 2 sons (my uncles). What would the 3rd one be?
Roosevelt should have won. He was the most beloved, most charismatic and was the best leader. Plus he’d already proved himself. Who knows, WW1 could have had a better ending if Wilson wasn’t there to kick Germany while they were down. WW2 might have been different or not even have happened.
Teddy roosevelt didn't like Woodrow wilson. Teddy roosevelt's goal was to take revenge for William howard taft's ingratitude and betrayal, and he succeeded.
America will always reap the depressing rewards of the Progressive Party not winning this election. Those reforms were introduced in so many other nations to the benefit of millions, yet America to this day still lacks a stable social security net and national healthcare
The popular vote map at 7:30 is probably a graphic (excuse the pun) illustration of how unrepresentative the Electoral College is. In the end, I doubt it would have changed the overall outcome, ie Wilson would still have won, but looking at California for example there seems more blue for Wilson than green for Roosevelt. Despite this, Roosevelt won California based on the Electoral College, with two faithless electors voting for Wilson
Just so you know being a progressive in the early 1900s isn't the same as being a progressive today.Back in the day, these ideas were vital for a properly functioning society.However, most of today's progressive ideas are just a bunch of unnecessary stuff.And no, i'm not talking about very basic things like universal healthcare i'm talking about cultural things and basic biology which progressive Democrats are very obsessed with.
Before Walter Frederick Mondale, vice presidents were generally considered electoral props rather than governing partners; Spiro Agnew and Nixon himself were nearly bumped off the party ticket, and LBJ surely would have been had Kennedy lived long enough!
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Change your name. There’s already Mr. Beast
@Naughty Sporty he made his channel before Mr beast
Naughty Sporty piss off
Would be good to do a new series that compares the change in composition of congress during each of these elections. Perhaps limited to 1900 to present
1912: The year that a former president and a current president were defeated by a future president.
And another Eugene who supports prohibition who also someone does not know
@@GrizzleyBearington Eugene Debs is known worldwide you ignoramus.
@@Secular_Scot who?
when putting your name as "Last initial First name" makes your name sound like a pathogen
And the dumb globalist
Roosevelt and Taft ran into each other at Chicago’s Blackstone Hotel in 1918 and had a little reunion. In the years since the 1912 election that caused the break in their relationship, Taft and Roosevelt had come across each other a couple of times and briefly shook hands, but things remained icy between them. A few months before their reunion in Chicago, TR was in poor health and undergoing surgery and a telegram from Taft to Roosevelt began the thaw in their relationship and opened up communication between the former Presidents. After their Chicago reunion, they kept in touch until TR’s death.
When Roosevelt died at the beginning of the next year, Taft attended his funeral and Roosevelt’s son, Archie, actually brought him up to the front of the church to sit with Roosevelt’s family. Later, as TR’s casket was being lowered into his grave while snow fell, Taft lingered nearby and was visibly crying over the death of his old friend.
Amazing history. If they were to make a Biopic about Teddy roosevelt, it would be epic for the Movie to talk about this. How to value a friendship.
wholesome 100
Wholesome
WHAT??!? My father literally worked in that hotel for most of my life and I didnt even know that, thank you!!
The man was shot and laughed it off like nothing happened and even gave the speech while the bullet was still inside his body, can we just stop for a moment to pay our respects to this man and his massive balls
That's why I love Teddy
@José Santiago Restrepo Garzón hello
@@ZekeorSomething How did the bullet felt?
@@lakshyajoshi9686 Not good
@@ZekeorSomething how are all the presidents doing in heaven?
Fun fact: William Howard Taft still holds the record for the fewest electoral votes for an incumbent president.
Alf Landon also got 8 electoral votes in 1936 just like Taft in 1912, but unlike Taft he wasn’t the incumbent president, FDR was the incumbent president in 1936.
Not the worst percentage though
Not his fault
Patty just conceded and stepped out to Teddy Roosevelt who was much popular that him Republicans would’ve won the White House that election. But no his ego got in the way.
@@TheChosennn it is his fault he should’ve stepped out he had less delegates the Teddy Roosevelt.
I can imagine Roosevelt just coming back from his year long safari and being like “wtf?”
Underrated comment hahaha
I was thinking the same thing with that facial expression of his at 1:14.
Taft did nothing wrong lol
They need to make a movie about this election.
Heck yes, I'd watch the hell out of that!
Is it released
CNN did a race to the white house on this campaign
Alright guys. Let’s cast this
Just Your Average Joe who’s gonna play Roosevelt
Okay but can y'all please just imagine if we had Teddy Roosevelt for a president during WW1? He would've built a bridge from Maine to Brittany and led the rough riders right through to Berlin.
Not to mention the war ending sooner causing less reparations put onto Germany preventing the Nazis rising preventing the Holocaust.
@@shittin_on_the_job I don’t think Roosevelt being President or the war ending sooner would’ve changed anything
Also the Bolsheviks wouldn’t have risen to power in Russia if Roosevelt was president during WWI meaning no Soviet Union and no rise of communism.
@@abrahamlincoln937 probably
@@reznov129 Well Alternate History Hub said that in his video on Wilson not being president.
Definitely one of our country's GREATEST and charismatic elections. If I were alive then I would have fully supported TR. Wish he would have won..
Eazy-E Ryder yeah I probably would have voted for Taft however Roosevelt was a pretty cool dude
If only America was a preference based democracy where you can pick more than one candidate instead of the retarded electoral college.
teddy knew he couldn't win. He just wanted to divide The Republican Vote to prevent Taft from winning
I would have supported debs :)
@@nippy7425 why so. just wondering
*Fun fact:* Russian Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin wrote an analysis of this election. He was an emphatic supporter of Eugene Debs, shocker.
It is called _"The Results and Significance of the U.S. Presidential Elections",_ and it's quite interesting to see his perspective on the American situation at the time..
Imagine if Debs got elected because of a Russian’s anylisis.
@@IsaaacWithThreeA What
@@kamalindsey ?
Gosh if Debs got elected and supported the red and black armies instead of Wilson supporting the Whites, imagine what could’ve been.
Is it just me, or is Wilson an incredibly scary looking guy? Something in his eyes.
He is kind of scary looking. His eyes look dead and his lips are so pale. I don't know if it's just that he wasn't very photogenic or what, but his pictures are unsettling to look at.
Wilson was scary
And he was scary because he supported the KKK
@@K.C.-Games among other things I'm starting to think even Andrew Johnson doesn't come close to what he did and that he's the most racist president and Johnson was really racist why did Lincoln pick Johnson
Nerd Dragon my guess is that he chose him to get more of the democratic/southern vote.
1912 is my personal favourite Election because there were such interesting, colourful candidates.
+Jack Smith Definitely one of my favorites as well!
Mr. Beat it would be interesting if William Jennings Bryan endorses Theodore Roosevelt because Bryan was a progressive and it could’ve united progressive democrats and progressive republican
and the least colorful one was the winner lol
hangukhiphop yeah
@@iammrbeat me to
Woodrow Wilson is trash Ted is the best canidate in this snerio
Kory Gala Boo! Taft all day
It is just his opinion you met another Roosevelt fan Zachary Henderson
Kory Gala
1. Theodore Roosevelt
2. Woodrow Wilson
3. Eugene Debs
4. William H. Taft
Wilson is a racist so he should be the worst president in history
@@K.C.-Games many presidents were far more racist than him, and you may be surprised to know that he was more progressive than teddy roosevelt. As crash course us history put it, taft=liberal roosevelt= crazy liberal Wilson=socialist Debs= crazy socialist. But teddy all the way
Imagine having the opportunity to vote for Teddy Roosevelt and not doing it
Teddy Roosevelt was one of the greatest human beings to have lived ever.....
I strongly disagree.
@@ZZZDEPRIVATION why?
@@shittin_on_the_job there is no greatest human to have ever lived IMO.
@@ZZZDEPRIVATION It’s certainly not Putin
@@gregalmonte8 Damn you just disrespected Russia like that.
1:29 that is exactly what happened in 2016 with Bernie being Roosevelt and Hillary being Taft
nope Bernie is Bryen and Roosevelt didnt come
Eh different but pretty similar. Bernie endorsed Hillary.
But at least they didn't split from the Democratic Party
Hillary is Wilson, Bernie is Bryan
No, it's pretty easily distinguishable. Bernie didn't run as a 3rd party candidate. He endorsed Hilary. Also, Hilary won the popular vote.
"progressive republicans". So odd to hear in 2020.
Now we have conservative democrats.
The progressive ideals was invading a lot of countries for nothing,both republicans and democrats put America in the dumbest Wars with hundreds of thousands of American lives Lost during the progressive era
It was better back in my days, thats for Sure !
@Joseph R. Biden, Jr. John McCain? Progressive? Will you shut up man?
@Joseph R. Biden, Jr. This John McCain worship is some of the dumbest fucking shit I’ve seen and you must have the brain of an ant. McCain is not progressive on any spectrum, and you need to stop acting like he is.
I like this election. Maybe because of the wide range of choices in 1912. You got William Howard Taft , Teddy Roosevelt, Eugene debs, and Woodrow Wilson.
+Jett For President I wish we had more choices EVERY election.
Agreed.
Jett For President and don't forget alcohol-hatin' Eugene Chafin!
But no conservatives :(
@@lindafromowitz9071 Well Taft was kinda conservative
My favorite election
One of my favorites as well!
+Mr. Beat's Social Studies Channel not good enough. You must be a 1912 purist
Maybe I'm a 2016 purist? haha
Mr. Beat's Social Studies Channel How do you not have 10,000 Subs yet?
Skrub Boy Hopefully soon? I'm probably too annoying.
Somewhere the Cynical Historian is cursing Wilson
Wilsooooooon!
John Porteous WILSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
That seditionist traitor arrested me because I gave a speech urging resistance to mandatory conscription
*SEYMOOOOOOUUUUUUUURRRRR!!!*
@@DebsEugeneV yeah, that bastard
"Death had to take Theodore Roosevelt sleeping, for if he had been awake then there would have been a fight."
- Thomas Marshall (Wilson's VP)
William Taft’s re-election performance makes Jimmy Carters performance look decent.
Taft would’ve won if it weren’t for TR
@@TheChosennn William howard taft would have lost even if Teddy roosevelt had not run
If Carter got Anderson’s votes he would’ve won
@@josefstalin3394well Anderson was a conservative so it would be an even bigger win for Reagan
@@sapnamukherjee6716 Anderson was pretty liberal on most issues. He was the last of the liberal Republicans
I always feel bad for Taft seemed like a really good guy, who was given unrealistic expectations to achieve. Glad to see that he found something he was very very successful in at the end
He never wanted to be president but ended up being the reason Wilson became president.
This is also the last time that a president who left office ran for re-election
But Hoover did not make it through the primaries
Until the 2024 election, when Donald J. Trump ran for president, winning 258 electoral votes.
@@zooeyhill6006 Its 1796
@@AnAmericanIdiot ?
@@zooeyhill6006 Yeah
One of the craziest elections. Too bad we ended up with Wilson.
Better than taft worse than teddy Roosevelt
Roosevelt: Gets shot
Roosevelt: Oh no! Anyway-
Roosevelt: Proceeds to give his speech
He's such a gigachad🤣
Theodore was a good man. He just wanted to help us out. No wonder he got a spot on Mount Rushmore
Fun fact for people who think Wilson would beat Roosevelt if the vote did not split well wrong Roosevelt would win since he might get all the Taft votes which add up to 50% and might win the election because he is the most popular candidate in the election
Kyle & Chung that’s opinion not fact
@@michaelsuder3956 its an opinion but Roosevelt would have been the favorite for sure imo
Wrong
If William Jennings Bryan had run this time, he would have easily won.
maybe not by sheer fatigue
In essence he did, since he was a close advisor and trusted supporter of Woodrow Wilson
Fourth time would have definitely been the charm for Bryan!
“Friends, I don’t know if you realised, but I have just been shot.”
Apparently getting shot in the chest and going on to speak and complete your speech for the next 90 minutes wasn’t enough to make him become president.
A fewo things...
If the Republicans nominated Teddy he would have won.
Teddy would have entered world war one after the Lusitania, and the war would have ended sooner.
Either the peace treaty would have been the same as our timeline, causing world war two to still take place or more lenient which could've avoided the second world war.
If Teddy won we might have seen the two term limit earlier, so if world war two had happened FDR would probably not have been president during ww2.
Heck, the Republicans might still be dominant today and far more progressive/liberal.
I see that you also watch alt. History Hub
Ted Roosevelt gets shot but still says his speech, man what a guy.
I think that if he won, maybe the world would be a better place. No Nazis, no Commies, a patriotic America that doesn't stick it's nose everywhere. Maybe we would be isolationist still.
I cannot thank you enough for helping me write a paper on this election for school
Bruh imagine losing presidential election 4 times lol
- this comment was posted by William Jennings Bryan Gang
I won 919,799 votes from prison AND came in second in Florida
i dunno bernie might give it ago again if no one goes with biden. theres rumors hilary might run if the republicans take back everything this year.
@@DebsEugeneV that's shocking. You also won 6% of the popular vote
3 out of the 4 candidates became president or were president at some point. Crazy
I should have won instead of Wilson...
@@DebsEugeneV no
@@UlyssesSGrant-zz4pe Yes.
@@AndresLeon-hz5qe well, my opinions on Wilson have changed a lot in the past three years… I’ll change it from a “definitely no” to a “most likely no”
I’ll be back #Roosevelt2024!
First election I can vote in #Roosevelt2024
@@shittin_on_the_job I'm not even a US citizen so I cannot vote
#jimmycarter2024
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T Rosevelt should have because A: he was young B: he should have at least won new York and/or ohio. I liked Teddy better than taft and Wilson. (no offence)
It’s okay. I don’t think Taft or Wilson will take offense, given that they’re dead n’ all.
@Sparticus Booker He was both
@Sparticus Booker jfk was young
It seems Clark wasn't a Champ after all...
Oh snap!
This is why Teddy was such a great guy.
Eugene V. Debs is the one politician I can look up to
Fun fact about Taft, he was the first President to have an Oval Office in the west wing of the White House. It was located where the Roosevelt room is today. The modern Oval Office was built in 1934 to aid President Franklin Roosevelt
If Roosevelt ran with the Republicans, Taft wouldn’t be nominated and Roosevelt would’ve ran head to head with Wilson and win.
Indeed, TR would have DESTROYED Wilson!
Who certifies the electoral college count in the event of the death of the vice president?
Good point
Maybe speaker of the house if the order of succession applies. Not sure that it does though.
The president appoints a new vice president, who must be confirmed by Congress.
Before the 21st Amendment
5:37 R.I.P.
You forgot butler the person who was tafts running mate after sherman dies
I'm glad to say my home state of Pennsylvania voted for the Bull Moose! As you can tell I'm a bit of a fan.
Roosevelt's platform for this election was amazing for its time. I had no idea
1901: Are you ready for Teddy?
1904: Are you Teddy for ready?
1908: Are you ready for not-Teddy?
Ah a rematch of the Eugene’s and the William’s
Despite winning no electoral votes, Debs DID win 4 counties nationwide (the most recent fourth placer to win *any*), and is to date the most recent fourth place candidate to win 5 percent or more.
2:05 governors of New York and California-the actual realistic ticket for a modern progressive party.
This was so funny and actually enjoyable, thanks Mr. Beat
1912 was the last time North Dakota and South Dakota voted for different candidates. Any idea why?
Due to divide in the GOP, if it was Wilson against Teddy or Taft Wilson would've lost badly.
eugene debs is such an interesting figure in history. especially when you look at it from a hoosier pov. what is quite possibly the most influential US socialist figure...came from indiana, a historically anti-communist anti-socialist state. crazy to me
I could imagine someone making a satirical, political comedy about this election
I do like that for this entire series, Mr. Beat plays a background tune that was produced or published the same year as the election.
This election could seriously be a movie
God damn these videos are so good.
awesome video mr.beats!
Thanks Rachel!
Wilson won not from his popularity, but because First-past-the-post benefits unified parties over split votes. Had the US used ranked voting, Roosevelt probably would've won.
It’s also worth noting that William Jennings Bryan would become Wilson’s Secretary of State
TR should have run again in 1908, technically he would have been within the unwritten two term tradition. He took over for another president the first term. Granted, very early on in the term.
1912: i'm the craziest us election ever
2024: ..........
I'm curious as to why North Dakota and South Dakota did not vote for the same candidate. I believe it is the only election in which they differed.
This scenario might happen again in 2024 if Trump does make his own party
Rather than get down hearted, Taft seems like he was glad to be leaving the Presidency. On the day of Wilson's Inauguration in March 1913, he had a huge smile on his face.
As one of the Contributors to "The Presidents" put it:
"So he had gone into the Presidency with a huge sweep and left in a most embarrassing way with only 8 Electoral Votes. But he didn't care, he was so glad as he said to step down and out, he didn't care at all,"
Possibly because William howard taft would rather leave the Presidency to Woodrow wilson than to Teddy roosevelt.
@neutral7786 I don't think it was necessarily Taft being delighted to hand over the reigns to to Wilson per se, but it was a symptom of how unhappy he was as President (in the previous episode, in the one that talked about the 1908 Election, Taft was described as much rather being on the Supreme Court than President). During his term, Taft, a normally jovial and light hearted man who knew how to poke fun at himself (his weight specifically), suddenly became grumpy and depressed with the result being that his weight ballooned to 335lbs. But with Roosevelt challenging him for the Republican nomination, Taft found himself in a situation where he couldn't really win. This was explained in one sentence by one of the contributors to The Presidents:
"Taft may not have enjoyed being President, but he doesn't want to be bullied out of it by Teddy Roosevelt."
The good thing is, eventually the two of them, Taft and Roosevelt, patched things up and became friends again until Roosevelt died in 1919
This is exactly why I hate Taft. He ran for president, making it where TR had to run as a third-party candidate and then was happy that he lost because he hated being president. Why did he bother running if he hated being president and was glad that he lost?
@emperorvalkorion1483 well, TR himself had a part to play in this. After his landslide victory in 1904, he publicly announced that he wouldn't seek another term and instead fully endorsed his good friend, Taft. He assumed that as they were best friends, that they shared the same ideas, that Taft would carry on with his policies. However, as shown here, that wasn't the case, Taft was his own person.
Taft never wanted to be President in the first place, it was his wife, Nelly, who wanted to live in the White House and live the lifestyle of a First Lady. His discomfort in the Presidency manifested itself in his weight, already higher than average, ballooning to 355lbs. I'm sure he would have quite happily stood back and let someone else run for Office in 1912, but with TR's increasing criticism of Taft's Administration, Taft felt he was being bullied out of it and didn't want that to happen
“Soon there was a clear split in the republican party between the more conservative leaning Republicans loved by Taft and the progressive Republicans led by Teddy Roosevelt”
Mr beat giving us a 2024 spoiler 🤪
I would love that, 1912 rerun
Good job on this video, this election was a strange one, a lot of these facts a didn't know.
this election is like a crazy story omg
To be fair,it was a crazy story
@@jakubpociecha8819 it is tbh
@@forgetful9845 Indeed
@@jakubpociecha8819 we're reading a about progressivism in apush rn
@@forgetful9845 Cool I guess
Rewatching this series going into tomorrow, and the election of 1912 is reminding me about what splitting the vote looks like on such a big scale
you left so much out of this video OMG like Wilson was the favorite of JP Mogan who financed his campaign and who also financed Theodore Roosevelt's campaign. Wonder why? hmmmm
Jo Jorgensen says Woodrow Wilson is the worst president in the history
Ew, Jo Jorgenson.
1912: the most consequential election in American history all bc of an arrogant guy from NY
fun fact
all these president year of birth are by one year
debs 1855
wilson 1856
taft 1857
roosevelt 1858
Wow
Theodore Roosevelt: Professional badass
The music was perfect for this video.
Is it just me or does Woodrow Wilson look really intimidating
To be fair,he does
He looks evil because he is evil.
definitely because of his potrait, smiling wasn't such a common thing when taking pictures back then
November 13, 1912. The day that my paternal grandmother turned 26. And she and my grandfather were expecting their third child very soon. They already had 2 sons (my uncles). What would the 3rd one be?
Roosevelt was robbed
You forgot to mention that Wilson was the first president to have a PhD @Mr.Beat
You forgot that there were I think about six states that Eugene Debs actually placed in third.
Even placed second in Florida!
Roosevelt should have won. He was the most beloved, most charismatic and was the best leader. Plus he’d already proved himself. Who knows, WW1 could have had a better ending if Wilson wasn’t there to kick Germany while they were down. WW2 might have been different or not even have happened.
6:15 can anyone tell me why California had a separate district worth 2 delegates that went with Wilson?
Faithless Electors
And its not a separate district
This is my favorite presidential election in American history.
One crazy election! Teddy Roosevelt helped get Woodrow Wilson elected.
Teddy roosevelt didn't like Woodrow wilson. Teddy roosevelt's goal was to take revenge for William howard taft's ingratitude and betrayal, and he succeeded.
@@neutral7786 He made a large mistake.
Always liked this one and tbh something similar could happen soon as the Republican Party is looking pretty divided
4:11: Chafin, Eugene is definitely a real name.
It's crazy to me that if the republicans went with Roosevelt here we might have had national heath care before WW1.
2:20 Still waiting on that
It's amazing that there were actually 3 Presidents in one election
Pretty sure 1844 (kinda) had 4
Mr. Beat: "This was the election that was completely and utterly messed up."
2020: "Allow me to introduce myself."
Recency bias. 1912 was definitely way worse
Uh, what? 2020 was completely normal.
America will always reap the depressing rewards of the Progressive Party not winning this election. Those reforms were introduced in so many other nations to the benefit of millions, yet America to this day still lacks a stable social security net and national healthcare
The popular vote map at 7:30 is probably a graphic (excuse the pun) illustration of how unrepresentative the Electoral College is. In the end, I doubt it would have changed the overall outcome, ie Wilson would still have won, but looking at California for example there seems more blue for Wilson than green for Roosevelt. Despite this, Roosevelt won California based on the Electoral College, with two faithless electors voting for Wilson
1:42 "Hey, it's me, 2024. Hold my beer."
This is nothing new, but it always sounds weird to hear the words “progressive republican” in todays day and age.
Just so you know being a progressive in the early 1900s isn't the same as being a progressive today.Back in the day, these ideas were vital for a properly functioning society.However, most of today's progressive ideas are just a bunch of unnecessary stuff.And no, i'm not talking about very basic things like universal healthcare i'm talking about cultural things and basic biology which progressive Democrats are very obsessed with.
Wilson's 32.8 in Idaho is the smallest plurality in US presidential history.
3:56 But I though Bernie was elected in 1822!
@Mr. Graves 1622*
@@jakubpociecha8819 1522*
@@Pyxlean I forgot that it was 1422, thanks for reminding me
You mean to say we didn’t get an eight hour workday because some old people didn’t vote for Teddy bruh
*Crazy fun fact* : Woodrow Wilson is the first president since James Monroe to serve 2 terms along the exact same vice president.
That’s crazy to think about
Before Walter Frederick Mondale, vice presidents were generally considered electoral props rather than governing partners; Spiro Agnew and Nixon himself were nearly bumped off the party ticket, and LBJ surely would have been had Kennedy lived long enough!
I know he was probably burnt out after three losses, but if ever there was a year for William Jennings Bryan to run, this was it.
Good ol times when conventions meant actual business and not some ceremonial event.