Would have to second, criticizing not complaining. This is supposed to be an entity that is an Eldritch being from an existential universe, he is supposed to be the embodiment of the extreme death cult version of Darwinism, but he looks like a soft squishy Megamind. I know I'm bad for expecting Lovecraft level monstrosities.
To me, it’s the eyes. The design is cool and unsettling, with the weird constant movement, faces smoking from the head and literaly wearing darkness like a cloak. But those eyes make him look like a disney version of Darth Malak
@@thedeependschanger1089 he's not supposed to be "an entity that is an Eldritch being from an existential universe, he is supposed to be the embodiment of the extreme death cult version of Darwinism" he's a follower of that being. maybe pay attention to the story.
We have seen enough. The children of Sol cry out for salvation. You promised them life, but deliver only death, as you have for so many before. Enough. Enough death. Enough life. You have no pieces left to place. The game is over. Do not be afraid. Your pale heart holds the key. This time... There is no escape.
To be fair he kinda has a point. The traveller as we know it has destroyed countless civilizations through the universe by straight up abandoning them. It comes and gives hope but then leaves the place a wasteland one it leaves because it takes all the hope it gave with it when it goes.
Yea. The traveler doesn’t abandon them, it’s just running away from the black fleet. If there’s no black fleet the golden age would never end. Or the traveler would have stayed at its first home
Tbf, it only did that because it was being chased down by the witness. If the witness's civilisation was so desperate to be led by it that never would've happen.
The faces that come out of his head are the same as his(maybe from different realities it’s just his face is covered but you can clearly see that his nose and eyes and eyebrows are the same which is crazy). Maybe explains why we hear so many voices because he is an entity that is a culmination of all the witnesses from other realities, that would be cool if that would be true
Now, who’s the winnower? The winnower I feel would be the darkness version of the traveler, also another question, why are there hundreds of pyramid ships, but only 1 traveler?
The winnower is the pesonification of of the darkness (not the entity/witness/voice) in the story of the creation of the universe. It is not inherently good or bad, not does it have any sort of agenda.
The veil is the winnower In the last veil containment, Osiris tells nimbus the veil is darkness Watch a video about it I dont think i can explain it more
So is he the king of the pyramid fleet is he the one that sent them and that fleet I think we know who is gonna aim all those ships at by how pyramid ships are gonna destroy the traveler as they don’t bare any weapons on them as guns or cannons I’m a destiny 2 player and don’t know much so somebody please help me
The traveller promised us life. But what do we do as guardians? We die. Over and over and over and over. Thousands upon thousands of deaths. An endless torment disguised as righteousness. Suffering, without end. The witness seeks to save us from this unliving hell. It will provide us with an end. The only way to stop the suffering wrought by the traveller is to allow the witness to undo the travellers wrongs. To reshape the universe. One final shape, to end all suffering.
@@m.jthomas5793 maybe that's where its own kind of live and if it does appear in Destiny three then maybe like warframe duviri paradox and the new operator King maybe the darkness race is more bigger than we thought or it can just appear in lightfall it could be a new open world just like warframe duviri paradox both are different dimensions
@@jackripper5712 there won't be Destiny 3, beyond light and witch queen are content that was going to be in Destiny 3, that's why the next expansion will be Lightfall
@@jackripper5712 so yes, maybe we get a new Open world in the Darkness dimension or in distorted worlds that got claimed by the Darkness, plus the new Veil enemy faction
@@LuisLopez-pi4fe actually there will be a destiny 3 since sony buy the company that owns destiny so I don't think it's a death for the guardian and I mean there is zanman of angels in warframe and the new war and the operator didn't died they were just a destabilized and they were in the void so I think the same can happen for the guardian if the witness vanish them into their own world same can be with planets
No i dont think they're the same at all. I think again we are being lied to & the winnower will use this power to take our light in lightfall. Game of flowers has 2 sides gardener vs winnower. Savathun told us when we stand on the line between light & dark we need only look up to see what has been watching us this whole time. This suggests there is a 3rd entity that sits in the middle of light & dark, which is the witness. The gardener is the traveller and has it's own form. The winnower is the darkness & (as we learnt time ago & which has now been demonstrated infront of us with that final cutscene with smoke-head) darkness is formless. The dude literally forms himself from black goo. he is not the witness. but a false prophet.
@@demsochimbo5383 No i was playing hungry hungry hippos with drop dead Fred. You have the gardener which is represented by the traveller sphere & all that it does. You have the winnower which is represented by pyramids & all that they do. You were told that there is an entity that sits on the line between light & dark (a neutral entity that has been watching us this entire time). When you stand on that line & look up you will see it. You were told this. Now you're presented with this new being that appears from a wall of darkness, literally walks on darkness & speaks to the traveller as though they are competitors. You are being led to believe that this neutral entity has decided that the darkness is the way forward. You are being fed a lie & it will cost you your light.
Remember when a fallen devil captain was the strongest enemy our guardian ever faced 😂
Now they are little more than scum
No actually i remember Atheon the first real enemy
@@IsaiahMorrellit was indeed atheon and that fucker is basically a god when he’s connected to the glass throne
@@IsaiahMorrellyup atheon was the first back in vanilla
@@meatwad7133 for me it was phogoth, that big bstrd was a pain
Why are people complaining so much? I think it looks cool, nails the whole creepy and unnerving aspect of the Darkness
Would have to second, criticizing not complaining. This is supposed to be an entity that is an Eldritch being from an existential universe, he is supposed to be the embodiment of the extreme death cult version of Darwinism, but he looks like a soft squishy Megamind. I know I'm bad for expecting Lovecraft level monstrosities.
@@thedeependschanger1089 it isn’t the actual winnower so far we know it’s a avatar or servent of it
@@Moon-un6ze inded this this is but a child of said winower
To me, it’s the eyes. The design is cool and unsettling, with the weird constant movement, faces smoking from the head and literaly wearing darkness like a cloak. But those eyes make him look like a disney version of Darth Malak
@@thedeependschanger1089 he's not supposed to be "an entity that is an Eldritch being from an existential universe, he is supposed to be the embodiment of the extreme death cult version of Darwinism" he's a follower of that being. maybe pay attention to the story.
BRO THE WITNESS!!! FINALLY WE HAVE OUR FIRST LOOK AT THE VOICE IN THE DARKNESS!!
We have seen enough. The children of Sol cry out for salvation. You promised them life, but deliver only death, as you have for so many before. Enough. Enough death. Enough life. You have no pieces left to place. The game is over.
Do not be afraid. Your pale heart holds the key.
This time... There is no escape.
That is a fucking amazing character design!
all the evil is in the massive unibrow
For the most part yeah, I don't like the skull-smoke thing coming out of his head tho.
That's literally the most terrifying thing I've seen in Destiny. Disturbing smoke stack coming out of his head made of souls or some shit.
Brain wojak memed itself into Destiny
This is what gives the hive nightmares... a brocolli man.
More like brocolli, unibrow megamind.. lol
BRUH LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
I think those are souls
To be fair he kinda has a point. The traveller as we know it has destroyed countless civilizations through the universe by straight up abandoning them. It comes and gives hope but then leaves the place a wasteland one it leaves because it takes all the hope it gave with it when it goes.
But the Traveller leaving places because the pyramide ships is coming to destroy him civilization, didn't?
Yea. The traveler doesn’t abandon them, it’s just running away from the black fleet. If there’s no black fleet the golden age would never end. Or the traveler would have stayed at its first home
Tbf, it only did that because it was being chased down by the witness. If the witness's civilisation was so desperate to be led by it that never would've happen.
Bruh looks like megamind
No Bitches?
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
the update to the xanthous crown looks pretty good
The faces that come out of his head are the same as his(maybe from different realities it’s just his face is covered but you can clearly see that his nose and eyes and eyebrows are the same which is crazy). Maybe explains why we hear so many voices because he is an entity that is a culmination of all the witnesses from other realities, that would be cool if that would be true
Nah, species.
You were almost spot on
They're the consciousness of the people who merged to create him. Watch the original lore video for more details.
Now, who’s the winnower? The winnower I feel would be the darkness version of the traveler, also another question, why are there hundreds of pyramid ships, but only 1 traveler?
The winnower is the pesonification of of the darkness (not the entity/witness/voice) in the story of the creation of the universe. It is not inherently good or bad, not does it have any sort of agenda.
the Lightfall interactive trailer stated the Winnower and the Witness are not the same thing.
The veil is the winnower
In the last veil containment, Osiris tells nimbus the veil is darkness
Watch a video about it
I dont think i can explain it more
the race that is the witness, was a civilization, before the merge into one entity build these ships.
The pieces are being placed
No peeking
Brought to you but Pixar.
So is he the king of the pyramid fleet is he the one that sent them and that fleet I think we know who is gonna aim all those ships at by how pyramid ships are gonna destroy the traveler as they don’t bare any weapons on them as guns or cannons I’m a destiny 2 player and don’t know much so somebody please help me
what's with the giant anime eyes?
cute anime alien boi join the battle with doritos ships
lmao anime eyes///
The traveller promised us life. But what do we do as guardians? We die. Over and over and over and over. Thousands upon thousands of deaths. An endless torment disguised as righteousness.
Suffering, without end.
The witness seeks to save us from this unliving hell. It will provide us with an end. The only way to stop the suffering wrought by the traveller is to allow the witness to undo the travellers wrongs. To reshape the universe. One final shape, to end all suffering.
They’ve really dragged this story out haven’t they 😂
It’s reminds me to mf from star wars kotor lmao
Malok you mean
Witch queen is it
Those disney eyes and unibrow are anti-menacing
bro why does he or her maybe they look like that and what is it power
He or she or both have a power to move world from the sol system to his homeworld the darkness world
@@m.jthomas5793 maybe that's where its own kind of live and if it does appear in Destiny three then maybe like warframe duviri paradox and the new operator King maybe the darkness race is more bigger than we thought or it can just appear in lightfall it could be a new open world just like warframe duviri paradox both are different dimensions
@@jackripper5712 there won't be Destiny 3, beyond light and witch queen are content that was going to be in Destiny 3, that's why the next expansion will be Lightfall
@@jackripper5712 so yes, maybe we get a new Open world in the Darkness dimension or in distorted worlds that got claimed by the Darkness, plus the new Veil enemy faction
@@LuisLopez-pi4fe actually there will be a destiny 3 since sony buy the company that owns destiny so I don't think it's a death for the guardian and I mean there is zanman of angels in warframe and the new war and the operator didn't died they were just a destabilized and they were in the void so I think the same can happen for the guardian if the witness vanish them into their own world same can be with planets
He looks goofy
merging his species into one entity does make a number on looks
Bruh why does he look like that one fortnite skin
embarrasing truly
Winnower. Not witness.
Aren’t they the same thing basically?
also, why would they show us this cutscene right after she mentions the “Witness”
No i dont think they're the same at all.
I think again we are being lied to & the winnower will use this power to take our light in lightfall.
Game of flowers has 2 sides gardener vs winnower. Savathun told us when we stand on the line between light & dark we need only look up to see what has been watching us this whole time. This suggests there is a 3rd entity that sits in the middle of light & dark, which is the witness.
The gardener is the traveller and has it's own form. The winnower is the darkness & (as we learnt time ago & which has now been demonstrated infront of us with that final cutscene with smoke-head) darkness is formless. The dude literally forms himself from black goo.
he is not the witness. but a false prophet.
No, they're the witness. Not the winnower. did you even play the game?
@@demsochimbo5383 No i was playing hungry hungry hippos with drop dead Fred.
You have the gardener which is represented by the traveller sphere & all that it does.
You have the winnower which is represented by pyramids & all that they do.
You were told that there is an entity that sits on the line between light & dark (a neutral entity that has been watching us this entire time). When you stand on that line & look up you will see it. You were told this.
Now you're presented with this new being that appears from a wall of darkness, literally walks on darkness & speaks to the traveller as though they are competitors.
You are being led to believe that this neutral entity has decided that the darkness is the way forward.
You are being fed a lie & it will cost you your light.
wow i really dodged a bullet by not preordering witch queen shit looks terrible
It’s comparable to taken king and better than forsaken so not really
Ur missing out mate, easily the best dlc imo, honestly even better than ttk
based
I love it when people spoil themselves and then blame the game for their own disappointment
@@azraelwolfsblood2902 This dude is samefagging on youtube holy shit get a life.